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Speaker 2: Car.

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Speaker 3: If there's anything that you have learned today, it's that

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Speaker 3: you might as well cheat. You might as well do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying on your taxes. I'm not saying on

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Speaker 3: your significant other. All I'm saying is wherever you want

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Speaker 3: to bend the rules, your models will do it, because,

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Speaker 3: gosh darn it, you may actually get away with it.

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Speaker 4: It seems like it's okay. It's just frowned upon, Dan,

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Speaker 4: It's just frowned upon.

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Speaker 3: It reminds me, and I know this isn't This is

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Speaker 3: kind of a local story to southern California, but I

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Speaker 3: felt it was so crazy. You don't think I want

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Speaker 3: to throw up already? Chris Purfett like, this is, oh

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Speaker 3: my goodness. We had a car chase the week where

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Speaker 3: someone hijacked carjacked three different vehicles in southern California, including

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Speaker 3: a tanker of milk, and they still got away, and

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Speaker 3: we are still looking for them, and by we, I

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Speaker 3: mean law enforcement officials, not me on my own time,

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Speaker 3: but they somehow got away. And you're like, how in

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Speaker 3: the world did they get away with it? That pales

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Speaker 3: in comparison to what's happened with the University of Michigan

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Speaker 3: and their cheating football program.

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Speaker 4: How did I miss this pursuit?

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Speaker 3: Yes, you didn't see it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even hear about it.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why, because I think it was volleyball night.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I think it was volleyball.

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Speaker 4: Man I, No, No, nothing happens on Tuesdays.

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Speaker 3: And we're going to get into the Michigan thing. And

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Speaker 3: I will try not to bore you. I will try

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Speaker 3: not to go off on tangents. I will probably just

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Speaker 3: let Mancy take the reins, because she's the most level

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Speaker 3: headed one of us here on this topic. But if

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Speaker 3: I were to say to MONCIZI, let's do a show

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Speaker 3: together on Thursday night, You'll be like, it's my mom's birthday,

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Speaker 3: but let's do it Saturday. Guess what, it's my boyfriends.

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Speaker 3: They're honoring him at work here because of his great work.

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Speaker 3: But I can do it, Manzi, can you play on

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Speaker 3: volleyball or can you do a show on volleyball? Sorry, Dan,

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Speaker 3: we can't do it. It is not going to be

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Speaker 3: able to work my by the way, indoor gymnasium volleyball, right,

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Speaker 3: it's not like beach volleyball, like you're on the shores

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Speaker 3: of the Pacific Ocean. You don't want to miss it.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 5: I am in a gym and I am diving, and

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Speaker 5: I come out bruised and all beat up, and it's

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Speaker 5: worth it, and you are not wrong.

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Speaker 3: You know what you should do in your next match

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Speaker 3: on Tuesday. You should catch the ball and then just

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Speaker 3: throw it over the net and be like, what are

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Speaker 3: you going to do to me? Because that's essentially what

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Speaker 3: Michigan has done. And then when they ask why did

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Speaker 3: you do that, just don't talk to him because that's

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Speaker 3: also what Michigan did. They didn't cooperate with anything, and

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Speaker 3: now get leveled with NCAA sanctions that really don't hit

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Speaker 3: at the heart of anything.

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Speaker 4: No, this is nothing. This is a big time out.

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Speaker 4: That's it. This is a joke. And I don't even

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Speaker 4: care about Michigan.

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Speaker 5: I am not affected by any of this, but never

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Speaker 5: forget twenty seventeen when the ass shows cheated and against

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers. Never forget what is the big thing I've

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Speaker 5: been complaining about when it comes to that is that

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Speaker 4: They should have taken away.

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Speaker 5: That championship in twenty seventeen from Houston and hear what's

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Speaker 5: happening with Michigan. Okay, so Harbaugh and Connor Stallions and

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Speaker 5: another guy, I have a timeout. That's all I'm reading

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Speaker 5: into this, and.

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Speaker 3: Manzi, it's even more than that. And I feel that

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Speaker 3: it is a bit of karma because I'm sure within

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Speaker 3: the last three weeks we've had a conversation with Jason Stewart,

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Speaker 3: our executive producer here on the Doug Gottlieb Show, Isaac

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Speaker 3: Golo on Chronic Chris profedor here as well. You heard

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Speaker 3: Chris play that awful music earlier. Thing that when Jason

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Speaker 3: went and saw the Astros and Dodgers taunted jose L

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Speaker 3: Twove and I, you know, just I brought up the

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Speaker 3: point of like nobody else cares, like only the Dodgers care,

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Speaker 3: and I felt that there was a similar sense to

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Speaker 3: myself and Michigan State fans cared. Nobody else did. Nobody

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Speaker 3: else seemed to care. But these certain fan bases and Manzi,

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Speaker 3: now that it comes down to what D Day is

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Speaker 3: and we see the punishment, it's so unfulfilling. And I

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Speaker 3: feel that in a way when I say, why are

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Speaker 3: I feel that that's payment for what happening. What's happening

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Speaker 3: today because to your point of what these penalties are,

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Speaker 3: and for those that don't know, I'm going to read

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Speaker 3: them off at a second. But this just isn't the

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Speaker 3: sign stealing scandal. There was another scandal prior to this,

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Speaker 3: an other NCUBA violations when it came to recruiting and

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Speaker 3: COVID dead periods, the periods that were violated by Michigan

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Speaker 3: it's not just an innocent sign stealing scandal. There seems

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Speaker 3: to be an organized effort to try to cut corners

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Speaker 3: people just say sign stealing, everybody does it? Is it

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Speaker 3: such a false phrase in a false opinion on what

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Speaker 3: this actually is for a school that now ends up

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Speaker 3: getting four years probation finds that could surpass thirty million

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Speaker 3: dollars with recruiting restrictions. Jim Harbaugh gets a ten year

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Speaker 3: show cost penalty, by the way, on top of the

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Speaker 3: four year one that he got from the previous scandal.

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Speaker 3: Current head coach. That's right, current head coach, he's still

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Speaker 3: the head coach. Sharon Moore gets a two year show

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Speaker 3: cause order. Counter stallions the one who seemingly carried out

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Speaker 3: all of these deals, eight year show cause order he

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Speaker 3: was going to coach anyway in football again. Dond Robinson,

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Speaker 3: a former player, three year show cause order who is

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Speaker 3: on staff, and then the fines would be determined on budget,

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Speaker 3: on postseason revenue, on scholarships. That's the penalty for Michigan

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Speaker 3: in doing their illegal sign stealing scandal on top of

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Speaker 3: the NCAA previous investigation.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of crazy to think that we think we

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Speaker 5: know all the details, when in reality, if you're calling

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Speaker 5: something the.

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Speaker 4: Operation KGB, there's a lot more to it.

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Speaker 5: There is a lot more that we actually will never know,

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Speaker 5: which is the big picture here, and.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 5: About the fines that's going to affect other parts of Michigan.

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Speaker 5: I feel, well, Michigan is not gonna take away from

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Speaker 5: their football program. They're not gonna take away from their

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Speaker 5: like these fines are gonna affect other parts of Michigan,

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Speaker 5: other athletes who literally had nothing to do with this,

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Speaker 5: and that simple punishment would have just been to vacate

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Speaker 5: the championship.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 5: These timeouts that these guys are getting, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: these players that are still on the team that had

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Speaker 4: I understand what they're playing now. That team that.

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Speaker 5: Cheated the KGB is what they're calling this Operation Connor Stallions.

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Speaker 4: They kate the damn championship. It's not complicated, Dan, It's

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Speaker 4: really simple. It is really easy.

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Speaker 3: It is really easy, especially Mancy, to add on to

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Speaker 3: your magnificent point when you talk about not wanting to

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Speaker 3: punish future generations of Michigan players and coaches who are

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Speaker 3: a part of this, this is part of the problem,

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Speaker 3: is giving them a postseason ban. People said, well, these

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Speaker 3: players aren't a part of that. Well, you have a

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Speaker 3: current head coach who was still a part of it.

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Speaker 3: When you have Jim Harbaugh who skips out of town.

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh's show cost penalties go through twenty thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be seventy five years old at that time.

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Speaker 3: You think he's going to want to get back into

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Speaker 3: college football when he's seventy five years old. No, he

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Speaker 3: has no intentions of ever going back to college football

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Speaker 3: because he achieved what he wanted to achieve, and that's

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Speaker 3: bringing a national championship to his alma mater at any

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Speaker 3: cost possible, doing everything that you just laid out. The

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Speaker 3: simplicity of how you laid it out is magnificent, because

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Speaker 3: that's what it comes down to. If you struck them

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Speaker 3: at the core of taking away that national championship, you

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Speaker 3: would hear an argument of people saying, we saw them

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Speaker 3: play on the field, we saw that they were the

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Speaker 3: better team. There's no denying it. That is incorrect because

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Speaker 3: all of those wins and the wins leading up to

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Speaker 3: building that team were aided by the fact that they

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Speaker 3: had improper and illegal intelligence on other schools. So it

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Speaker 3: was part of that. Even when they gave the Big

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Speaker 3: that season. The three game ban was just a slap

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Speaker 3: They really didn't have the Big Ten anything to stand

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Speaker 3: they also realized that Michigan is their cash cow and

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Speaker 3: a whole other argument of other people benefiting from Michigan's

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Speaker 3: national championship, including the Big Ten at that time. But

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Speaker 3: to your point of when Michigan is going to look

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Speaker 3: fifteen years from now, they'll probably do it five years

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Speaker 3: from now, they're going to get the loudest ovation because

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Speaker 3: they came through this scot free. Essentially, Jim Harbaugh when

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Speaker 3: will get the loudest ovation because they will be honoring

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Speaker 3: their national championship team that you correctly said should have

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Speaker 3: been taken away because of these sanctions. And that's the

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Speaker 3: most difficult part about it is there are a lot

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Speaker 3: of arguments, and Doug was in for Colin Cowherd earlier today,

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Speaker 3: saying that these financial ramifications are going to limit the

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Speaker 3: school and limit the program in the future. We'll see,

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Speaker 3: we'll see how much that happens. But right now, people

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Speaker 3: want flesh, they want blood, They want an eye for

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Speaker 3: an eye, and a tooth for a tooth, and an essence.

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Speaker 3: It feels that Michigan got away almost scott free.

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Speaker 4: They absolutely got away with it.

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Speaker 5: And if I'm any other school and I'm paying attention

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Speaker 5: to this, and I've got maybe a coach that's like,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm ready to retire in a couple of years,

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Speaker 5: why don't we chi and just get a fall guy

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Speaker 5: because we know they're not going to vacate the championship

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Speaker 5: and then we're good. This that's just a bad precedent.

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Speaker 3: I think that the sign stealing scandal on the surface

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Speaker 3: is not as major if it would have been the

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Speaker 3: one off, right, but it's not the one operation. This

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Speaker 3: was well, it was not only an operation Manzi. It's

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Speaker 3: on top of the previous scandal right that went on

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Speaker 3: that they were then punished by the NC DOUBLEA. But

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Speaker 3: it's also the failure to cooperate. Isn't that the other

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Speaker 3: thing that we have been told in terms of like,

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Speaker 3: if you're dealing with law enforcement, the cover up is

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Speaker 3: worse than the crime. And so when we look at

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Speaker 3: the crime of sign stealing, it may not be as

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Speaker 3: malicious as something. And there may be other operations that

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Speaker 3: She's Manzi Bologno's hit her up at Monzie Bolognos. You

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 7: really good in about four of the last five practices.

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Speaker 7: So he's won the job. But he really won the

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Speaker 7: job because there was no other competition because Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 7: has not been good enough and Shador was not given

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Speaker 7: a chance and Shador is not ready. Let me be

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Speaker 7: clear about that. Shador is talented, and last Friday showed

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Speaker 7: he's talented, and I think he's got a chance to

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Speaker 7: be an NFL starter. Down the road, but this competition

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Speaker 7: has never amounted, and it's to the point that three

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Speaker 7: of them have some level of injury we don't know,

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Speaker 7: and Tyler Huntley, who wasn't on the team, had to

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Speaker 7: come in and now it looks like he might play

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Speaker 7: the entire preseason tomorrow. So what a product that will be, Zach.

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Speaker 5: You've been there since the beginning, with the Browns drafting

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Speaker 5: Schadur Sanders, so much surrounding him, so much attention.

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Speaker 4: Have you been surprised at it?

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Speaker 5: How has he handled all of the eyes on him

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Speaker 5: from the start to now?

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Speaker 7: From what we know, he's handled it all great. Right now,

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Speaker 7: it kind of feels like the interaction last week was

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Speaker 7: a setup with his camera crew happening to be there.

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Speaker 7: But that's the world we live in, keth Ron. Rookies

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Speaker 7: have camera crews, right, and kids do things different ways.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, from every impression I've gotten outside of

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Speaker 7: these beating tickets that he got, the team likes what

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Speaker 7: he's done, how he's handled himself, how he's shown up

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Speaker 7: and asked questions, and his teammates love him. He's staying

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Speaker 7: on the field almost every day after for extra work

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Speaker 7: of some sort, and said, it's just weird with the injury,

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Speaker 7: and then it was extra deflating to the whole operation.

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Speaker 7: I don't think anybody can run with that, right, But

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Speaker 7: I am maybe a little bit surprised at a popularity.

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Speaker 7: Not really, I thought I was braced for it. But

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Speaker 7: I think what's happened is the Shadoor crowd has made

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Speaker 7: it Shador versus Gabriel, right, and they're so mad that

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Speaker 7: he hasn't gotten first team reps. And hey, if you're

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Speaker 7: rooting for somebody like that, I get it, But I

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Speaker 7: just encourage people to think bigger because Shoudar versus Gabriel

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Speaker 7: is not even a contest, like he is so much

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Speaker 7: more talented, it's not even a contest. So the Browns

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Speaker 7: have created this. They used the top one hundred pick

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Speaker 7: on Dylan Gabriel and then undercut him by taking a

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Speaker 7: guy fifty picks later who's much more talented than he is.

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Speaker 7: So here they are, and I would imagine more three

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Speaker 7: days or so from Flacco being named the starter. But

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Speaker 7: where should there is healthwise? And you know, will he

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Speaker 7: even be on the active roster? Will he be on

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Speaker 7: IR to start the year. I don't know. I think

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Speaker 7: we're you know, it's going to be the full ten days,

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Speaker 7: I think before we find that out.

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Speaker 3: Zach Jackson joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show

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Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. She's Monzie Blanio. So I'm Dan

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Speaker 3: buyer in for Doug today. What was ever the plan

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Speaker 3: then with Kenny Pickett? If Flaco is run away with it,

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Speaker 3: I know he's been dinged up, but what was there?

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Speaker 3: What was their goal in having him be a Brown

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Speaker 3: this season?

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Speaker 7: Well, he was the first one that they acquired, Dan,

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Speaker 7: you know, that was the first day of free agency

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Speaker 7: late in the day and the trade came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 7: And then when we finally met Kenny when it became official,

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Speaker 7: he said that the Eagles had actually given him a

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Speaker 7: heads up that there was some trade talks out as

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Speaker 7: the courtesy, and none of them were with the brown Like,

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Speaker 7: none of the signals he got were the Browns. Right,

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Speaker 7: So really, if that's March tenth ish for a full month,

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Speaker 7: he was the only healthy quarterback because everybody knew that

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Speaker 7: Watson was not in the mix, right, So, you know,

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Speaker 7: he is young, he started games, he moves well. I

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Speaker 7: think if he squint you see a fit with the

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Speaker 7: style that the Browns want to play and what he

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Speaker 7: can do. But he's just not very good and the

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Speaker 7: fact that he started twenty five games done nothing but

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Speaker 7: prove that.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 7: So he is thirteen years younger than Joe Flacco, so

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Speaker 7: and he doesn't cost anything right now, so you could

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Speaker 7: see why they would want that. And you know, look,

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Speaker 7: they're in an awful, awful spot because of Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 7: It's going to continue to hurt them down the road

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Speaker 7: because of the salary cap, right, So what's the way

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Speaker 7: out Either stumble into a guy like Kenny Pickett who

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Speaker 7: has a career renaissance, or stumble into your own rock party,

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Speaker 7: which is should or Sanders if it works out.

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Speaker 3: It just seems like there are always a step behind though,

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Speaker 3: Like they like Joe Flacco should have been well like that,

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Speaker 3: Like it feels like bringing Flacco back this year was

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Speaker 3: because he wanted to make up for the mistake of

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Speaker 3: not bringing him back last year after the late surge.

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Speaker 3: You just bring up the Kenny Pigott thing and how

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Speaker 3: the Browns weren't the ones talking about him. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just, yeah, it just seems like the I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it's just an absolute mess. There just doesn't seem to

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Speaker 3: be even a question for me. But all of these

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Speaker 3: examples of laying out, like bringing flaccoback now should have

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Speaker 3: been done fifteen months ago.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it couldn't because of Watson's fragile ego.

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Speaker 7: Bringing flacoback now like just kind of says everything about

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Speaker 7: the awkward intersection that this team is at. Because guys

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Speaker 7: in the locker room and there still are a lot

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Speaker 7: of good players on this team, they don't want to tank, right,

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Speaker 7: And like Joe came in and mastered the offense and

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Speaker 7: captivated the fan base and was awesome in the locker room, right,

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Speaker 7: and so he's beloved and like he can still really

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Speaker 7: fling it, and Jerry Judy looks great, and that is

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Speaker 7: their hope of winning any game in the month of

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Speaker 7: September is that Joe just gets hot and even if

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Speaker 7: he throws two interceptions, which he always does, as long

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Speaker 7: as he throws two touchdowns and maybe the defense can

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Speaker 7: win a form at the end. Right, So you know,

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Speaker 7: they there might be a time, and it might be

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Speaker 7: sooner than later that this team is tanking and looking

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Speaker 7: forward to that not just next year, but the future years.

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Speaker 7: But for Kevin Stefanski, for the coaches, for the older

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Speaker 7: offensive linemen, their four best offensive linemen are are are

548
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Speaker 7: only signed through this year. They have to go try

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Speaker 7: to win and if they can't beat the Bengals in

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Speaker 7: week one, then look at that schedule and tell me

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Speaker 7: when away it's coming.

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Speaker 5: Zach, you brought up Jerry Judy, and that was going

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Speaker 5: to be my next question, coming off the best year

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Speaker 5: of his career.

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Speaker 4: How is he connecting with Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 7: It was a slow start, but I think it's natural.

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Speaker 7: I think for the first time in several years, they've

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Speaker 7: had kind of a real training camp, like now obviously

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Speaker 7: it's been odd because of the quarterback injuries, but like

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Speaker 7: it looked really bad. Then all of a sudden in

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Speaker 7: the second and third week, he could start to see

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Speaker 7: some offense looking a little bit sharper. And yeah, I

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Speaker 7: mean they got shut out by the Eagles here on

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Speaker 7: day one of joint practices, but they were much better yesterday.

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Speaker 7: And the two best passing players were flat out of Judy,

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Speaker 7: he's just he looks really good. And those at least

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Speaker 7: one of them was right on Quinny and Mitchell, who's

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Speaker 7: the rising star corner in this league. So you know

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Speaker 7: the next step for Judy is consistency. Right, But we've

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Speaker 7: seen the explosion and we saw the mega huge game

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Speaker 7: last year, but he stylistically. Flacco and Judy should be a.

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Speaker 3: Really final question for Zach Jackson joining us here on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. What happens now with Judkins? Like is

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Speaker 3: he do they expect to sign him? Is this? I mean,

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Speaker 3: now that he's clear from his charges, where does that stand?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he will sign. I think the iff

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Speaker 7: is out of the equation. I think he will sign.

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Speaker 7: They're going to let the NFL complete its investigation and

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Speaker 7: make its ruling. So I don't think he's going to

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Speaker 7: play anytime soon. And that's not to say for sure

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Speaker 7: that he's going to get suspended. It's in play, but

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Speaker 7: he's missed off camp. You know, the rookies reported four

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Speaker 7: weeks ago today and he has not been there for

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Speaker 7: one thing. So I think you'll see Quench and Judkins

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Speaker 7: play and probably play a lot for the Browns from

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Speaker 7: from October on, but it's not going to be early.

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Speaker 7: But I still think that he will be the leting

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Speaker 7: running back for this team. We just don't know exactly

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Speaker 7: when and what a.

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Speaker 3: Draft class you trade? Don you get another first but

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Speaker 3: after that, yikes, Zach, we appreciate it. Enjoy the game

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Speaker 3: as much as you can. On Saturday, I'd love to

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Speaker 3: talk to you against you and appreciate it all right,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Matt Action Jackson on X.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Zach.

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Speaker 5: Do you think he realized I was the one who

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Speaker 5: slid into his DM?

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Speaker 3: He did. He's try to book him for her own

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Speaker 3: show on Sundays with Carrie Roads five o'clock eastern, too Pacific,

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Speaker 3: and then he got back to you a couple of

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Speaker 3: days later. But that's what happens. Yeah, volleyball nights and

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Speaker 3: then you didn't see it until this morning. Funny how

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Speaker 3: those things work out, though. Hit Mancy up at Monty Bologos.

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Speaker 3: You could find me at dan Byer on Fox. Coming

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Speaker 3: up next, I got DIBs. We'll explain on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug

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Speaker 6: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Monty Blagos. Great insight from Zach Jackson.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I can still get them on my show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what. The Browns are never

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Speaker 3: short on things to talk about, good or bad. It's

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Speaker 3: mostly been bad.

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Speaker 3: Hit Mancia Up and Manzi Blanjos. You can find me

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Speaker 3: at Dan Byer on Fox. I'll get the Blue Sky

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Speaker 3: number at a sec. But first, let's play a game.

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Speaker 6: This is Game Time Game Shag on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 3: Isaac Lowing cron is at the news desk. What's going on, Isaac?

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Speaker 4: Well, we're about to claim our DIBs.

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Speaker 8: I got dips, all right, first item in honor of

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Speaker 8: today's big story involving Michigan. I'll keep it open in

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Speaker 8: it so this is not just sports taking in any

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Speaker 8: direction you want. Favorite Sheeeters who you got DIBs on?

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Speaker 3: I got DIBs on SMU, and not just to keep

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Speaker 3: it connected with the Michigan football scandal. It's my favorite

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Speaker 3: thirty for thirty. I recommend anybody who loves college football,

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Speaker 3: just love sports in general, to watch it. But they

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Speaker 3: were put on probation and it was such an intrinsic

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Speaker 3: big operation that they basically had a payroll at that time,

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Speaker 3: which was illegal in college sports, and that was what

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Speaker 3: brought them down. The longtime TV anchor in dallas Dale

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Speaker 3: Hanson brought up the point like they had a payroll,

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Speaker 3: that they couldn't just stop cheating because they had all

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Speaker 3: these people to still keep paying illegally paying. So SMU

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Speaker 3: is my is my pick? I like it? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: go ahead. I got DIBs on Lance Armstrong.

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Speaker 9: I don't think I have seen an American hero fall

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Speaker 9: as hard as in that age. First off, Americans were

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Speaker 9: actually paid attention to the Tour de France. That is

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Speaker 9: a miracle in itself. Second, winning we wouldn't do it

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Speaker 9: if we're fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: Everyone had the.

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Speaker 9: Live Strong bracelets and everything. Everyone had those. And just

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Speaker 9: how defiant he won was, how he set out to

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Speaker 9: ruin people's lives, and just how far everything fell collapsed,

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Speaker 9: and how kind of reviled his name is now I

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Speaker 9: even I enjoyed. I enjoyed the saga of Lambsarnstrong.

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Speaker 3: Christopher Fett with a great nominee. And not not to

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Speaker 3: hold you off, but I just want to say maybe

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Speaker 3: my third or fourth favorite thirty for thirty of is

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Speaker 3: the Lance Armstrong one. And the crazy thing about it

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Speaker 3: is I watched the whole thing and I still don't

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Speaker 3: know if I should believe him because of what he did. Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he is reformed. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he's the actual good guy that he is again

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Speaker 3: or if it was all a show which makes him

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Speaker 3: that much more.

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Speaker 9: Just so defiant at the time, Yeah, so defiant, And

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Speaker 9: I think that makes it better when you go down swinging,

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Speaker 9: when everyone knows you are full of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna take DIBs on

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Speaker 5: Ross Skeller cheating on Rachel Green.

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Speaker 4: That's That's what I'm taking here.

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Speaker 3: Again, I don't even think it's a kid answer because

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Speaker 3: they were on a break.

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Speaker 6: They were not.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter, they were not on a break, they

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Speaker 5: were not on a break.

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Speaker 10: I got DIBs on something and I hate to go

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Speaker 10: back to sports after somebody goes pop culture. It goes

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Speaker 10: against my instinct. But I did want Dan to guess

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Speaker 10: mine because I think Dan knows what mine is.

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Speaker 3: The well, the astros wouldn't be your favorite exactly, Yes,

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Speaker 3: the opposite of my favorite.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 10: I think there was a thirty for thirty on.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah Ruiz, Yeah, yes.

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Speaker 9: The marathon is such a hotbed of these of this topic.

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Speaker 9: It's great for those that don't know Rosie Ruiz. She

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Speaker 9: took a taxi cab through twenty six miles of a marathon,

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Speaker 9: got out and ran the last half mile, and she

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Speaker 9: was crowned the New York Marathon winner in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 8: And guys, Rosie Ruiz, the guys that was actually mine too.

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Speaker 8: And I actually have the post match interview and it's

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Speaker 8: the funniest thing ever. Just one slight correction. Was actually

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Speaker 8: the Boston Marathon, It was not the New York Marathon.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't Rosie. Rosie didn't care. But here's you get

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Speaker 8: a cab through traffic. Yeah, the new work commeric he did.

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Speaker 8: Here is the actual post Boston Marathon interview.

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Speaker 3: It's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Is someone coaching you or advising you, No, I advise

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Speaker 2: myself what it was a fantastic performance, Rosie, congratulations Rosie Ruez,

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Speaker 2: the Mystery Woman winner.

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Speaker 4: We missed her at all our checkpoints.

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Speaker 2: She came through the finish and a fantastic two thirty one.

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Speaker 4: We have to confirm that time at this point.

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Speaker 2: But she was way ahead of the world class field

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Speaker 2: here today in the Boston Marathon.

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Speaker 8: Yes, nineteen eighty was kind of a different.

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Speaker 3: Time in the world, was it it? I think my

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Speaker 3: first question tour would be, why aren't you out of breath?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because she wasn't out of breath, she wasn't sweating.

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Speaker 3: Order of breath?

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Speaker 4: Correct, so many questions.

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Speaker 9: You missed her in all the checkpoints.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong here.

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Speaker 4: That's funny. That's funny.

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Speaker 3: We missed her twenty six times during the race.

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Speaker 4: There is like every other mile.

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Speaker 3: Yes, somehow she was able to persevere and find her

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Speaker 3: way to go ow. Good for her magnificence.

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Speaker 4: Again, Ganine is fine.

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Speaker 3: It's just it does make sense. Like to his point,

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Speaker 3: like a cab to get through New York, no way,

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Speaker 3: but probably an easier way in Boston.

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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, do you believe it?

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Speaker 2: All?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 8: Onto a also other top timely topic given our previous guest.

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Speaker 8: But again, take this in any direction you want favorite

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Speaker 8: Cleveland Brown's quarterback present past. Take it in any direction

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Speaker 8: you want.

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Speaker 4: Dibbs Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, off the gates.

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Speaker 4: I take Baker, big fan.

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Speaker 3: I see, I know.

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Speaker 9: Some Browns fans who still want him back, who still

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Speaker 9: thinks a.

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Speaker 6: Massive mistakee.

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Speaker 3: I'm I got dibbs on our teammate Brady Quinn here

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Speaker 3: at Foxy Take Brady.

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Speaker 10: Company, Man, Company Man. I got dips on Bernie Cozar.

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Speaker 10: Bernie Cozar could not play in today's NFL. He he

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Speaker 10: could play in the Johnny unitas NFL least athletic quarterback

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Speaker 10: of all time.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think it's because of the posture, right Like.

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Speaker 3: It was like he felt like he was yes hunched

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Speaker 3: and the number of nineteen didn't help him either.

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Speaker 8: How would we describe his hair? Was it technically a

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Speaker 8: mullet or was it something else?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Sure, I got dims on Brian Hoyer. That was a legend.

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Speaker 9: We just want to talk about those mid level quarterbacks

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Speaker 9: who stuck around for quite a while. Brian Hoyer's name

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00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 9: always came up as someone you wanted, maybe not with

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Speaker 9: the Browns, but some other team somewhere down the line.

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Speaker 3: That jersey again starting when the Browns return, not even

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Speaker 3: including some of those is amazing. All right, we got

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Speaker 3: everybody's good. Everybody's good, just for that of a Tim Couch.

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Speaker 3: All right, there it is. That's game time.

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Speaker 6: This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 3: Brian Sipe, Vinny Testaverdi uh previous in the in the

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Speaker 3: previous regimes, Yes, could have been possibilities. Brandon Whedon, former

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Speaker 3: friend of The Doug Gottlieb Show, a current friend. He's

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Speaker 3: just it's not football season, so we're not talking to Brandon.

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Speaker 3: She's Monte Milagno's I'm Dan Byer. The NBA has got

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Speaker 3: a problem on its hands. We'll discuss next