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Speaker 1: to Coast. Stanton Friedman has worked for years as a

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Speaker 1: nuclear physicist on hotly classified projects like nuclear aircraft and

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Speaker 1: power plants for space. He is lectured on the topic

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Speaker 1: of UFOs two hundreds of colleges and professional groups over

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Speaker 1: the years. I call him, of course, the father of

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Speaker 1: modern day ufology. Stanton Friedman back with us on Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast Stan always a pleasure of my friend. How

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Speaker 1: you bound well? Pretty good? I mean you remember I

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Speaker 1: live where it's winter, you know, don't but up there

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Speaker 1: in Canada, Eastern Canada, that's right during Canada four time

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Speaker 1: zones ahead of California, and you still make your way

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Speaker 1: to Main do your p O box to pick up

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Speaker 1: all your That's amazing. That really is well that this story.

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Speaker 1: Have you been following this stand? Well? Yes, it was

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Speaker 1: on the inside front page as sort of second front

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Speaker 1: page of the Fredericton Daily Leaner where I live. And

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Speaker 1: so I I saw the illustration. And let's face it,

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Speaker 1: it's an artist concept. That's not a you know, somebody

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Speaker 1: really seeing something. They have a rough idea that it's

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Speaker 1: long and thin cigar shape as somebody calls it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we don't. We we know it's there. We know it

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Speaker 1: was moving very fast, came through the solar system and

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Speaker 1: was picked up by a system that's really looking for

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Speaker 1: asteroids that might you know, asteroids can do a heck

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Speaker 1: of a lot of damage, a big huncle rock from

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Speaker 1: out there. But it's the earth, they say, that's how

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Speaker 1: the dinosaurs did. So we're not talking about a little

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Speaker 1: hole in the ground. If one of these things hit you, uh,

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Speaker 1: And so it's a mystery and they know its color,

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Speaker 1: and they've got telescopes trying to it's past us now,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't see it now, but trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out more. And they're they're listening for alien trick.

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Speaker 1: Why do some of them some of them think that

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Speaker 1: it could be some kind of alien craft, Well only

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Speaker 1: because what else could it be. We haven't you know,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those. Well if it isn't this, then

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Speaker 1: it must be somebody's in it. But we don't know.

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Speaker 1: We're pretty ignorant about this sort of thing. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: the universe is large, the Solar System is large, the

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Speaker 1: galaxy is very large. Uh. We are not at the

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Speaker 1: end of our rope when it comes to knowing what's

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Speaker 1: going on. We don't have answers for all the questions.

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Speaker 1: But I noticed, as guy I did, I'm looking on

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Speaker 1: the web and people, as one guy said in his article,

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Speaker 1: it's not alien. That's the standard response. Can't be alien.

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Speaker 1: It's never aliens. One come and said, that's what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: So we don't know what the situation is. But it's

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Speaker 1: interesting simply because we haven't picked up something like this

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Speaker 1: before that is moving at very high speed, not uh

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Speaker 1: around in size. Or anything. It's it's cigar shaped, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I get a kick out of that because frankly, I

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Speaker 1: always talk about if you're coming from outer space, if

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Speaker 1: somebody is visiting us, and I definitely think some buddies are.

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Speaker 1: I think of a two stage system, a huge mothership

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Speaker 1: what I call earth excursion modules, column flying saucers if

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Speaker 1: you want so. I've always said that, uh. And he

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Speaker 1: to see that's drawing in the paper or this artist

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Speaker 1: cigar shaped mother ship the size. Uh. They're not seen

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Speaker 1: near the ground now, they're normally seen quite a ways

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how it proves that. Remember it was

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Speaker 1: haven't really We're tuning more radio telescopes, uh, to see

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Speaker 1: if we can hear anything. George, you know, well, would

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Speaker 1: would it still be under this kind of extraterrestrial control

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Speaker 1: or has it gone rogue? We don't know, that's one

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Speaker 1: the same all the time. But they've deduced that it's

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Speaker 1: a football field. Yeah, it's a big road monster. You

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Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't want it to hit the planet. But is

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Speaker 1: it Is it spinning? Well, it's rotating. Spinning is not

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Speaker 1: something I can answer at this point. I've looked for

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Speaker 1: that to see whether you know, are they calling is

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Speaker 1: spinning it? It's like it's end over end kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: So for part of the time it's presenting a large

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Speaker 1: this these dimensions. So Uh, you know, it's one of

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Speaker 1: those mysteries and it makes for an answer, and the

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Speaker 1: answers aren't coming easy. Uh. You know it's gone. We

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Speaker 1: can't see it. And they say it's it's zooming cleanly.

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Speaker 1: They say it doesn't have any space to breathe around it. No,

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Speaker 1: that's one of the things that first somebody thought, well,

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Speaker 1: it must be a comment from someplace else. But there's

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Speaker 1: no junk around it. It is read, uh, they say

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Speaker 1: when the caption on the photo of photo on the

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Speaker 1: drawing says elongated metallic or rocky object about four long,

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Speaker 1: it's roughly thirteen feet uh, and is unlike anything normally

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Speaker 1: found in the Solar system. Well, were for a surprise.

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Speaker 1: I guess we gotta learn. So you know, this could

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Speaker 1: go in any direction, George h you know somebody driving

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Speaker 1: the vehicle, did he have an accident? And and who

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Speaker 1: knows how old it is? Well that that's we have

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Speaker 1: no idea we live. You know, we used to like

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Speaker 1: to think that, well, we're pretty special. Where there's a

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Speaker 1: of them is like us that is covered with water

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Speaker 1: mostly and with oxygency can breathe and so hey, we're

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Speaker 1: special and uh, there was a time when Frank Drake

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Speaker 1: of the SETI community search for extraterrestaurant intelligence. I say,

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Speaker 1: soly different to investigate you. At one point, Seth, Seth

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Speaker 1: I've said it, Uh, you know on your programs right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is that what is it? We don't know?

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Speaker 1: And people seem surprised. You mean we don't know everything. No,

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Speaker 1: now the number for how many planets everywhere we look

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Speaker 1: the planets, uh, extraterrestrial planets. Indeed, the latest time part

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Speaker 1: U Galad terms there are ten thousand stars and by

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Speaker 1: the latest data we have is that means there's about

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Speaker 1: sixteen thousand planets. Uh. And I'm not sayingthing we all

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Speaker 1: have life. That's all. Well, yeah, and so we know

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Speaker 1: from my viewpoint now the set of people never consider

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Speaker 1: flying saucers. You read their books, which I do. They

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Speaker 1: don't read mine, but I read there. Uh, and you

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Speaker 1: don't see any references the large scale scientific studies, even

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Speaker 1: done by astronomers. It's like it can't be if if

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Speaker 1: they were coming, we would know about it, George, they

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Speaker 1: would have phoned in an ask for an interview. I

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Speaker 1: suppose is the idea exactly? Well, back to this object,

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Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Uh. They are calculating that it

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Speaker 1: might have come from the Vegas star system. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: that the star system in the Contact movie with Jodie Foster.

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Speaker 1: Didn't they come from the Vega area? It might have.

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Speaker 1: I hae to say that that isn't that far away.

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Speaker 1: And we've got a mystery. And I will say they've

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Speaker 1: far as I can tell. Why can't they say stanton

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Speaker 1: definitively that it's an asteroid. Well, they're calling it an

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Speaker 1: interstellar asteroid, but that you know that that doesn't answer

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Speaker 1: no question about that, judging by the speed it's going

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Speaker 1: New fund Journal Mutual UFO Network, and there was a

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Speaker 1: special issue of Scientific American a couple of months ago

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Speaker 1: also a special issue of Newsweek magazine, and both of

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