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Speaker 1: of Vigeon podcasts. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Romeo Dawes because he was signed to

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Speaker 2: think about sixty seconds after we.

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Speaker 3: Get off here, stretch for that one.

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Speaker 4: In their heads. They're actually giving us respect. We don't

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Speaker 4: want to, like step on their show, so we'll wait

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Speaker 4: with our news until they're done.

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Speaker 5: Interesting take. So I'm going to give Rabbing a little

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Speaker 5: bit of credit some of us that don't watch the

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Speaker 5: film and just know the game. Oh no, the game

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Speaker 5: by watching it. Yeah once, yeah, not twenty seven times.

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Speaker 5: When it went bad in Tennessee. The culture went bad

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Speaker 5: with it because it's hard to have great culture.

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Speaker 4: When you're not winning. I think Rabel's also a better coach.

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Speaker 6: Now than he was. That your decisions.

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Speaker 4: That's why I said I think yes, we will say

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Speaker 4: is younger? What dos wasn't a trade?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I know what you what? You gave

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Speaker 5: him twenty million a year. They traded a lot to

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Speaker 5: DJ Moore, I mean a pit swamp.

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Speaker 6: More than the Patriots game up for Dobbs.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I like it.

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Speaker 4: I like the thinking. I'm just waiting for you to

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Speaker 4: say something that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: I'm not threatened at all by what the Bills are doing,

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Speaker 2: I think, Josh, because that's your primary rival.

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Speaker 5: That's what I make their own space in your head.

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Speaker 2: What you wouldn't give to get to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: and just get blown out like.

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Speaker 5: You saw, like Johnny Sullivan in selfie, Like I haven't

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Speaker 5: they sucked?

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Speaker 1: They would kill to be us. This is Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Toyota dot com. All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It

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Speaker 4: is Tuesday here Let's Stadium, and we're all here Evan, Paul, me, Duce,

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Speaker 4: Alex and the Boom, and we're talking Patriots for the

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Speaker 4: next couple hours, as we do every Tuesday and Thursday

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Speaker 4: in the off season here at Jilette Stadium, on Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: So what do we got, guys? What's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: What what Patriots subject? I have a non Patriots subject

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Speaker 4: that I'll bring up a little later. I need some

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Speaker 4: consumer uh advice nice uh, you know, So we'll get

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Speaker 4: into that later. But but let's let's uh, let's deal

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Speaker 4: with the Patriots. What do we got.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna start with Miami just trading Jalen Wadel

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Speaker 2: the Broncos. I think that's interesting on a number of

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Speaker 2: different levels.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a big trade.

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Speaker 2: Big trade, Uh, I kind of. I mean I like

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Speaker 2: it for both teams, to be honest. I think Miami

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Speaker 2: is clearly turn it down.

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Speaker 7: To the Studs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like devon a chance standing around looking with

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Speaker 2: Malik Wellis. But good trade for Denver. I mean, another

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Speaker 2: Weddon for them. And I'm sure they're gonna come in

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Speaker 2: here next year and they're gonna have something to prove

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Speaker 2: and Jalen Wade is going to be part of that.

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Speaker 2: So so who is.

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Speaker 4: Their best receiver? Courtland Sutton the Yeah, so.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if I want ner, if he'll stay. I

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Speaker 5: wonder if he'll be on the move. Yeah then yeah,

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Speaker 2: Troy frank for you know, another speed guy for them.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I wonder if you know they they played

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Speaker 6: I mean you could look at it either way. You

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Speaker 6: a f C just got better, or you could say

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Speaker 4: So you know, that's a horse race in the AFCAS.

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Speaker 6: Depending on which way you want to one horse race, yeah, Patriots?

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Speaker 5: Or did you forget when I got smacked around last week?

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Speaker 4: But Mike a little bit, Yeah, but he was talking.

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Speaker 2: They did little George.

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Speaker 5: Talking trash about me on the radio this morning too, trash.

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Speaker 2: I acknowledged that there was an argument.

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Speaker 5: It was your greatest moment in the show. You smacked

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Speaker 6: I was surprised to hear I did go back and

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Speaker 5: It was just a beat down by you beat me down.

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Speaker 6: To concede so much that DJ Moore is better than

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Speaker 6: Khalil Shakir, because I'm I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I think he's much better. I don't know if

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. DJ Moore, you know, maybe two

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Speaker 6: I just that was the only point that I was like, I.

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Speaker 5: Just didn't understand why that made him desperate. But he

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Speaker 6: It was nice to not be in the middle of

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Speaker 4: On the show.

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Speaker 2: I just think, though, is there a certain point with

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's just do you feel that pressure

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Speaker 2: because having watched this Patriots team miss on drafts, you

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Speaker 2: I feel like after this season, where you fire your

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Speaker 2: to you know, your old head coach was your defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: This is Josh's guy. This is so you know, I

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Speaker 2: And you're right, like they had to go get DJ Moore.

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Speaker 5: But that's what I think.

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Speaker 2: It's more interesting. You look around the league at teams

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Speaker 5: Yeah, take the win. It doesn't have many every once

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Speaker 4: Him the win to The only criticism I got of

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Speaker 6: People complain about that, no, but you know what, it's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes it's like the medium gets a little hot.

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Speaker 4: It's a little hot, I know, but it's the best part.

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Speaker 4: If you can't hear what anyone's saying, it's pointless.

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Speaker 2: So I was making great points that Paul was yelling

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Speaker 4: Have to let each other talk.

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Speaker 5: You can hear it.

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Speaker 4: You can, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know. It's the best part of it.

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Speaker 2: But it's okay, that's all right. Well we'll try to it's.

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Speaker 5: A good argument.

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Speaker 6: Like they're like the Dolphins like feel like they want

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Speaker 5: So anyway, I didn't understand that with the Jets for

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Speaker 5: the same reason that Evan said. Now, Aaron in his

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Speaker 5: let's get Gino Smith in here, because we're not going

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Speaker 5: to be a playoff team this year. But is it

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Speaker 5: important for them to not go three and fourteen and

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think if you listen to anything Kevin

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Speaker 2: Interesting people still believe in Kevin O'Connell though, because move

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Speaker 2: But yet they're not giving any criticism to Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 2: Not wonder if it was Adolpha Mensa that they left

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Speaker 5: He's kind again on the table. Oh yeah, it could be, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Is a weird. The Dolphins to me is super weird.

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Speaker 5: How we're getting today.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you, how are we winning games? Like

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Speaker 6: Like it's nice to say, oh, we're just going to

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Speaker 2: It's seven free agents on defense that it seems like

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Speaker 4: The Lads, I ordered my draft guide yesterdays has great depth, charts,

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Speaker 6: But like all those guys in theory, could you know,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're the draft next year. Is supposed to be

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Speaker 2: I think it's a valuable resource. I mean it's you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of I mean, it's interesting with Josh

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a weird one. You know, maybe caught back

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Speaker 2: get to be that guy on the playo, you know,

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Speaker 2: really putting his print on that defense. And that's something

440
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Speaker 2: we don't really know. Maybe we'll see today and fors

441
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Speaker 2: and Fox Grow episode four coming out today, right for it?

442
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Speaker 4: Yeah, later today, we're gonna drop episode four. I think

443
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Speaker 4: fans are gonna really love it, but a little warning.

444
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Speaker 4: Put some time aside because it's not short. But you

445
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Speaker 4: don't have to all, you know, listen or watch it

446
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Speaker 4: in all in one sitting. But it's it's a great,

447
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Speaker 4: great uh, but you'll want to Yeah, great testimony testimonial

448
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 4: to the last season. A lot of behind the scenes

449
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Speaker 4: stuff never before seen. So I can't wait for it

450
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Speaker 4: to drop.

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Speaker 2: Did you find it was a hard episode to put

452
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Speaker 2: together because of the ending? I mean, you kind of

453
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Speaker 2: have to figure out how to manage a disappointing performance

454
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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to give it away. They don't win,

456
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Speaker 4: but no, no, I win or lose the Super Bowl.

457
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Speaker 4: Obviously we were gonna come out with this episode and

458
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Speaker 4: I think we already knew what the ending how we

459
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Speaker 4: wanted to end it, win or lose. So I think

460
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Speaker 4: people will see it and let them judge themselves and

461
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Speaker 4: then we'll talk about it afterwards. Yeah, well, we'll do

462
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Speaker 4: a breakdown like we did with the other episodes and

463
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Speaker 4: let people have their critiques and opinions on it, and

464
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Speaker 4: we'll talk about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The point I was trying to make too though with

466
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Speaker 2: just that is what was Terrell Williams kind of role

467
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Speaker 2: this year? And you know, how did he assimilate back

468
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Speaker 2: into the team. And I think he still was one

469
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Speaker 2: of those guys presenting to the defense, and you know,

470
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Speaker 2: he always talks like they want to play, like that

471
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Speaker 2: effort and finish thing, Like I just see Terrell Williams

472
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Speaker 2: seems like such a motivator and a guy who's fired

473
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Speaker 2: up in that regard, and I hopefully, I mean, I

474
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Speaker 2: don't know, maybe there's some footage of him talking on

475
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Speaker 2: the team would be pretty cool.

476
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Speaker 6: But yeah, we talked of Rabel at the combine, he's

477
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Speaker 6: kind of outligned with us too, like a little bit

478
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Speaker 6: more about the role is going to be very defense heavy,

479
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Speaker 6: very defense focused. But he mentioned you know, defensive line

480
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Speaker 6: and development on the defensive line, some coordinating type of

481
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Speaker 6: responsibilities in terms of, you know, making sure the front

482
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Speaker 6: is you know, kind of quality control type stuff up front.

483
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Speaker 6: And then he also mentioned what you said, Fred, like

484
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Speaker 6: being an extension of Mike Rabel and carrying that culture

485
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Speaker 6: and making sure that everybody around the building is pulling

486
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Speaker 6: in the right direction and doing the right things and

487
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Speaker 6: preparing the right way and all that kind of stuff.

488
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Speaker 6: But I think that this is as much as you know,

489
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Speaker 6: I hear what Deuce is saying about how unfortunate it

490
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Speaker 6: was that he kind of lost the opportunity. It kind

491
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Speaker 6: of feels like this role is sort of like what

492
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Speaker 6: he's really kind of meant to be doing. Whereas like

493
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Speaker 6: Zach Korr, I think is one of these guys that

494
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Speaker 6: is one of these up and coming play callers that

495
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Speaker 6: you know, has that sort of mind for the game

496
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Speaker 6: and that sort of thing, Whereas I think Terrell Williams

497
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Speaker 6: is like a mentor type, you know, someone that's really

498
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Speaker 6: there to develop not only players on the field, but

499
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Speaker 6: also them as humans and you know, develop them as

500
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Speaker 6: pros and you know, culture building and like all that

501
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Speaker 6: kind of stuff. So in a way I kind of

502
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Speaker 6: feel like it works perfectly to have those two guys together,

503
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Speaker 6: that Terrell Williams is going to be able to do

504
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Speaker 6: most of that, and then Zach Korr is going to

505
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Speaker 6: be the one kind of in the trenches calling the play.

506
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Speaker 2: See a really good story. Though, to talk to him

507
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Speaker 2: this year about what is you know, going through what

508
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Speaker 2: he went through last year, how does that change you

509
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Speaker 2: and what is his perspective on coaching now, I mean

510
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Speaker 2: it's a.

511
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Speaker 4: Tough probably appreciates it's more more than ever. Yeah, I

512
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Speaker 4: did want to talk about one email that came in

513
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Speaker 4: on Sunday. Usually I don't, you know, uh, talk about

514
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Speaker 4: emails that come in outside of the show. But anyway,

515
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Speaker 4: this is from Simon and it's a long email, so

516
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to read it all. The bottom line

517
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Speaker 4: is he felt that he loves the show, but he

518
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Speaker 4: felt that over last year we became really one sided

519
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Speaker 4: to the positive, like we weren't as balanced as we

520
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Speaker 4: have been in the past, and like I was thinking

521
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Speaker 4: about it, I was like, oh, like it was a

522
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Speaker 4: good season that like everything was like you know, coming

523
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Speaker 4: up roses. So like, I don't know if there was

524
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Speaker 4: a lot to you know, be negative about. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I don't know if you guys have any

526
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Speaker 4: thoughts on that.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty like, I mean, they went fourteen and three

528
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Speaker 6: and made the Super Bowl. The quarterback was the runout

529
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Speaker 6: for MVP the coach one Coach of the Year. Like now,

530
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Speaker 6: I mean we came on here. I feel like after

531
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Speaker 6: every game and had our grievances and had our gripes

532
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Speaker 6: with certain things a catchwany do we do the good,

533
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Speaker 6: the bad, the stuff that gets you beat. So there

534
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Speaker 6: was plenty of times where we'd get to the stuff

535
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Speaker 6: that gets you beat and I'd be like, they beat

536
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Speaker 6: the Titans by three touchdowns. I don't really have much

537
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Speaker 6: this week, Like what do you.

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Speaker 4: Want me to say? Like I mean he said, you know,

539
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Speaker 4: we didn't really talk about Dig's legal issues. Well, I mean,

540
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Speaker 4: like what do we know? You know, Like what's the

541
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Speaker 4: point there? Like he was, He's saying one thing, and

542
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Speaker 4: you know, you just go with his words and it's

543
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Speaker 4: a legal thing until it gets sorted out. There's really

544
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Speaker 4: nothing to talk about cause you're gonna be just wrong

545
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Speaker 4: most of the time. And he said it even goes

546
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Speaker 4: for the segments like the good, the bad, and the injured.

547
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Speaker 4: What used to be a genuinely balanced breakdown now feels

548
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Speaker 4: like the bad section has almost disappeared entirely, even when

549
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Speaker 4: there's clearly room for it. There were plenty of bad

550
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Speaker 4: discussions even when we were winning with Brady like, do

551
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Speaker 4: you feel that way? I don't know.

552
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Speaker 5: A little, but I would just say when you go from,

553
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Speaker 5: you know, four and thirteen to fourteen and three, I

554
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Speaker 5: think the proportion of your analysis should adjust accordingly. I mean,

555
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Speaker 5: you didn't like go nine to eight where every game

556
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Speaker 5: could have gone, you know, like they went fourteen and three.

557
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Speaker 5: There was a period of time like in the middle

558
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Speaker 5: of the season when was was it the ten a

559
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Speaker 5: ten game winning streak? When how much time are we

560
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Speaker 5: spending on the problems? Like to me, the biggest problem

561
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Speaker 5: at some point, like in November and December was competition

562
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Speaker 5: and that ended up bearing out and when we got

563
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Speaker 5: to the playoffs, I think we spent a little more

564
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Speaker 5: time on the bad. Yeah, you know, after some of

565
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Speaker 5: the postseason wins, even because like the offensive line struggles,

566
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Speaker 5: the offense in general struggles, they couldn't run the ball

567
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Speaker 5: in short yardage. I mean, I think, yeah, there was

568
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Speaker 5: some stuff to talk about, but I mean, when you

569
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Speaker 5: go fourteen to three and go to the super Bowl,

570
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Speaker 5: yeah we're more positive.

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Speaker 4: But it's not even just that. It's you went fourteen

572
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Speaker 4: to three coming off two four to win seasons. So

573
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Speaker 4: the story was how did this happen? Had to be

574
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Speaker 4: good things that happened, so like it's only natural to

575
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Speaker 4: like focus and want to get those answers, like what's

576
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Speaker 4: going right here? Why is this happening, rather than dwell

577
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Speaker 4: on the negative, which to me would have seemed forced. Yeah,

578
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Speaker 4: Like if you're forcing negative just so that people think

579
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Speaker 4: you're balanced, I think that would be disingenuous, because, like

580
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Speaker 4: I said, you just came off two four win seasons,

581
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Speaker 4: the bottom of the league, and now you're at the

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Speaker 4: top of the league. That's the story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think two of Week one two years

584
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Speaker 2: ago when they beat the Bengals, and I remember that

585
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Speaker 2: postgame show where the general sentiment was this isn't going

586
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Speaker 2: to be good enough. This is you're not going to

587
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Speaker 2: be able to string together these kind of games. I

588
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: also think about some of the criticism that we gave

589
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Speaker 2: Drake during the postgame show, and sometimes just by not

590
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Speaker 2: putting him on the good list, not even putting him

591
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Speaker 2: on the bad list, that people were you know, sometimes

592
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Speaker 2: annoyed with us that we didn't think he had a

593
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Speaker 2: great game or you know. But again, they lost three games.

594
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Speaker 2: Two of them were in the first three weeks, and

595
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Speaker 2: the other one they blew a lead against Josh Allen.

596
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Speaker 2: I mean, that was kind of it. I would say, though,

597
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Speaker 2: on the playoff games, I feel like we were pretty honest.

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Speaker 5: I thought we spent a lot of time on the

599
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Speaker 5: bad list, even in victory in some of those postseason games,

600
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Speaker 5: because they didn't play as well as they had been

601
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Speaker 5: and there were more issues to be concerned about.

602
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Speaker 2: We didn't get to do the Super Bowl postgame show

603
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Speaker 2: that would have been pretty naked.

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Speaker 5: That would.

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Speaker 4: Justin would agree said. Going off of memory, I felt

606
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Speaker 4: you guys were very balanced. When there were issues, all

607
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Speaker 4: of you were never afraid to bring them up, and

608
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: all the positives were covered fairly well. We just went

609
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Speaker 4: three straight years below five hundred negativity, be damn. You

610
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: guys are always very fair all around. So I have

611
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Speaker 4: to strongly disagree with Simon.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just hope that we are with football

613
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Speaker 2: and you know, look, it's a special situation where somebody

614
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: gets pinched and we can't be the ones to jump

615
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: to outrage and how could he do this? Because what

616
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: happened with Diggs's situation, it got thrown out. So anything

617
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: we said is sorry, but it's still going on. Well

618
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Speaker 2: bar wars. You know, this is an example. You know,

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Speaker 2: see you never know, you never know, and we can't

620
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Speaker 2: be the ones to sit here and you know, kill

621
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Speaker 2: the players over something that we don't have the information.

622
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Speaker 2: It's great on Paul shows, they can do it. They

623
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Speaker 2: get you know, plenty of red meat out of it,

624
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: as they should. But you know, that's the one limitation

625
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Speaker 2: I feel like we have being in the business book.

626
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Speaker 2: If you want to talk about football good and the bad,

627
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Speaker 2: I don't think anything's off the table.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that was you know, somebody that like started

629
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Speaker 6: outside and came inside.

630
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Speaker 8: Like.

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Speaker 6: The one thing that does like sometimes irk me is

632
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Speaker 6: when people are like, well you have to be positive,

633
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 6: and it's like no, not really, liketball, there's stuff that

634
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 6: are that's maybe out of bounds, like Deuce is talking

635
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 6: about in terms of the legal stuff, that's just you know,

636
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 6: not in our best interest to necessarily be speculating and

637
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff. But I don't feel like

638
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 6: when it comes to football, like there's ever been like

639
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 6: big limitations of like being able to say they'd played

640
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 6: poorly this week, or this didn't go as well, or

641
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 6: that player didn't play as well or whatever. And so

642
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 6: you know, sometimes I do feel like that's almost like

643
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 6: a preconceived notion of what the show is like, because

644
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 6: you know, it is a team podcast, and so then.

645
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Speaker 2: People be surprised when they listen, like, wow, you know,

646
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Speaker 2: I've heard that moment.

647
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Speaker 6: I've heard that, you know, people that are, you know,

648
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 6: my counterparts at other teams. When we go to places

649
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 6: like the Combine and stuff like that, people are always

650
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 6: shocked by how brutally honest they let us be.

651
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Speaker 4: So this is for you, Simon. The Patriots offense didn't

652
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Speaker 4: play well in the Super Bowl? Happy now, happy.

653
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Speaker 5: Any of the four playoff games? Okay, wait a minute, now.

654
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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa?

655
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Speaker 6: Texans was better?

656
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 4: Henry was all right? Anthony says it should be celebrated

657
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: for years to come. Talking about us was one hundred

658
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: percent right in the argument, and I was shocked to

659
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: see Paul shot to see Paul on the opposing side.

660
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: Give big deuces. Deserve respect and kudos to Paul for

661
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: owning it as.

662
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 5: Usual because it wasn't Fred, I'd still be arguing if

663
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: it was fresh now, I did not know about Bradley Chubb.

664
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 5: That's a desperation wolf, I have to say, that's the

665
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 5: that's reeks of desperation. I just don't think the bills

666
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 5: are done, that's all.

667
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 6: They're not done because Josh, they're done now.

668
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: I think they're starting to feel the pressure a little bit.

669
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't.

670
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 6: Think about Michael B. Jordan winning Best Actor though tough.

671
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: Chris in New Hampshire wants to talk about A. J.

672
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: Brown and I guess the latest on A. J. Brown

673
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: is everything's going to be kind of on the back

674
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: burner until June, which is kind of what we thought

675
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: because of the financial implications.

676
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering how much competition is there right now,

677
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: how many teams are really after AJ Brown's Broncos were

678
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: supposedly the other the late team that I heard, so

679
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: what you know, what the market.

680
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 4: Depends on the Eagles if they lower the price, and

681
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: I think more teams will be interested.

682
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 6: I think negotiating with Howie Roseman is maybe one of

683
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 6: the most frustrating things in the world.

684
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: Smelling himself a little bit.

685
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 6: I get the sense that he has his birdies in

686
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 6: the media that he's using to try to create a

687
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 6: trade market for AJ Brown that I don't think really

688
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 6: currently exists. Like now, all of a sudden, the Rams

689
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 6: were like super interested in AJ Brown and it just

690
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 6: happened that that was reported at the same time that

691
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 6: Dallas Goddard's deadline for his contract avoiding was coming up.

692
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden on Friday of last week,

693
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 6: there's all this a J Brown scuttle but like they

694
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 6: gotta make a decision here and then you know, nothing happens.

695
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 2: Russini came in hot with it, like you know, decisions

696
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: gonna be made, and then I was like, and no

697
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: decision is going to be made.

698
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's going on? It just this is all him playing,

699
00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 6: you know.

700
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: I mean, the really built him up to be like

701
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: this master. He's a great naker and like, you know,

702
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 4: watch out you make a deal with him, check your

703
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: pockets after because he's gonna fleece you, And I think

704
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: maybe he's kind of like himself bought into that a

705
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: little bit. It just get that sense, what.

706
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: Would you what would you be willing to trade? If

707
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: you were Philadelphia? What would you be willing to accept

708
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 5: first and something else? But no one's offering that? So

709
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 5: is that him smelling his farts?

710
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: How do you know? We aren't?

711
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: I'm just saying I don't. I wouldn't give him away.

712
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 5: I think he's I think he's right to be holding out.

713
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 5: I think today's trade is another sort of push into

714
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 5: that direction. Jalen Wattle just got a first and a

715
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 5: third plus a fourth round pick swap. I like Jalen

716
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 5: Wattle a lot. I think he's probably a better player

717
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 5: right now than A J. Brown is. But AJ Brown

718
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 5: has had a more accomplished career. So if I were

719
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 5: Howie Roseman, I wouldn't give him away. I think a

720
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: lot of people are criticizing the Eagles for not quote

721
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: being serious about trading him. Well, you just said Howie

722
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 5: Roseman might be smelling his own farts. I mean, I

723
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 5: think he's doing the right thing.

724
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: I don't.

725
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 5: I'm not giving away an asset for nothing.

726
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 6: That was That was my point is like it's annoying

727
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 6: to negotiate with him because he's right.

728
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: Didn't he want two first round picks and a player.

729
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like that we're starting, but you're but you're

730
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: also just like talking about a guy that's just not

731
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 5: going to back down from his asking price.

732
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 6: And so like he's one of these gms. It's not

733
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 6: going to lose a trade. He's just not going to

734
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 6: lose the trade.

735
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 5: And like so if you're the Patriots, if you want

736
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 5: aj Brown, they don't need to Pauls, they don't need

737
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 5: to trade.

738
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: He's on the contrast, Sometimes it can be good for

739
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: both sides of trade. You don't have to lose.

740
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 5: If he gets something, it's good for both sides. If

741
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 5: he gives him away, it's not good for them.

742
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone's telling him or thinking he's.

743
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: I think people think that he's asking for too much.

744
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 5: I don't. I think he's a good player, not.

745
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 6: After some of the other trades that have had the

746
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 6: first round picks.

747
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 5: No, I don't.

748
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: Well, that's what he was asking. I heard he turned.

749
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: I heard that no one wants to give him a

750
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 5: first and a third. That's the Jayalen Waddle thing. So

751
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: if you heard that, I heard this, I don't know

752
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 5: what's true. Just going off of Twitter. I don't know

753
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 5: what they're you know, to your point, maybe you're right,

754
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 5: I don't know.

755
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: According to Jordan Shultz, the Eagles just signed Hollywood Brown

756
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: to one year deal.

757
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 6: What does it mean?

758
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 7: What does it mean?

759
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 5: But this is what I'm talking like, it's what do

760
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: it mean?

761
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 6: It's just caught like that. You know, you hear about

762
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 6: it a lot in the NBA, like Sam Presty with

763
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 6: the thunder. Like if Sam Presty calls you about a player,

764
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 6: like hang up the phone because he's about to just

765
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 6: like you're going to close your eyes and all of

766
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 6: a sudden, shake yildess Alexander is going to be gone

767
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 6: and winning MVPs in Oklahoma City. Like it's the same

768
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 6: thing with Howie Riseman, Like he's just he's he's a

769
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 6: fairly good at his job.

770
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 5: If you're right, and there they were asking for two

771
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 5: first I wouldn't give two first for him, but i'd

772
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 5: give one and I and I know there's not a

773
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 5: lot of teams that want to give up a first

774
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 5: round pick for him. And if that's the case, if

775
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 5: I were Howie Roseman, I'd keep them.

776
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think each team is different, their situation is different.

777
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 4: I think for the Patriots situation where your first round

778
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: picks with thirty one and you clearly don't have that guy,

779
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: I think for us it makes sense.

780
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 5: They want to give it a twenty seven first round pick.

781
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: That's fine. I mean, you mean if we had the

782
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: twenty seventh.

783
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 5: No, if a twenty twenty seven first, oh oh nope,

784
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 5: that made me lest we wanted to do it. No,

785
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: if the Eagles want don't want the thirty first pick,

786
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 5: they want the twenty twenty seven, Nope, no, hard This

787
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 5: is what I'm saying. If I'm how and I don't

788
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 5: think you're wrong. Everybody, everybody is in agreement that next

789
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 5: year's draft.

790
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: But I don't think that's unreasonable.

791
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 6: I'm not giving up any the twenty twenty seven first

792
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 6: round pick.

793
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: No, there's a good chance it's a better pick than

794
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: thirty first.

795
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 4: I mean, but you know what, happefully not too much.

796
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 7: But like.

797
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 6: Even if it isn't like we're talking, there's going to

798
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 6: probably be i'd say comfortably at least six, if not seven,

799
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 6: wide receivers that are going to be worthy first round

800
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 6: picks in twenty twenty seven.

801
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: Okay, now you don't need one because you got one.

802
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 6: Well, but like it would be well draft, get at

803
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 6: rookie ones. I ain't giving up anything in the twenty

804
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 6: twenty seven draft yet, not until we get into this

805
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 6: season and we see grass Is Oways greener, what the

806
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven draft, what their fall season looks like,

807
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 6: if we get to the trade deadline, and maybe some

808
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 6: of the hype, but the twenty seven draft was a

809
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 6: little bit overblown, then maybe you would just then. But

810
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: I'm not touching twenty twenty seven, and I think we're

811
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 6: seeing it across the league that teams are are hoarding

812
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven draft picks and trying to even get

813
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 6: more picks into twenty twenty seven than they possibly can.

814
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: Chris in New Hampshire says his title is pathetic simps

815
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 4: oh geez AJ Brown AJ Brown, AJ Brown. The pitiful

816
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 4: simping of fans and media vermin is gross, shameful and weird.

817
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: Sounds like a shot gpt here that bro is not

818
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: coming here mark this email. I am correct. The thirsty

819
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: nature of these weaklings has become intolerable. Let it go

820
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: and let him go. The AJ Brown obsession is unhealthy.

821
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: This email is a guarantee he won't be a Patriot

822
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 4: and everyone will be Okay. If somehow I'm wrong, I'll

823
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: write into acknowledging my mistake. Please Fred, hang up on

824
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 4: callers and don't read the emails. Treat this Philadelphia Wide

825
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: receiver as he who shall not be named.

826
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: Wow, I understand, maybe not as strongly as the one

827
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 5: in the I don't want AJ Brown category.

828
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 6: It has gotten to the point of annoyance.

829
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: Mike's point I heard with the AJ Brown crap was

830
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 5: just dumping on me on THEOC every day, like you

831
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: have to have one of the insiders have another hit

832
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 5: on NFL Network with Ian Rapaport saying the same thing

833
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 5: about AJ Brown that he said two days ago, but

834
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 5: still trying to drum up the excitement or drum up

835
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 5: the hype of a potential trade.

836
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 6: And it could be imminent. It might not be imminent.

837
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 6: It actually isn't happening. Oh it could happen, like we're

838
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 6: just I'm done with it too.

839
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it goes back to his draft when he

840
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: was like excited to be here and then you know

841
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: the Nikhil Harriet it all and so like the connections

842
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: go back. But I just it seems unique to me.

843
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 2: I don't know if other teams are out there being like, God,

844
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: we'd love to get a J.

845
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: Brown.

846
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know teams are generally, but our fans

847
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: covering a single player as much as Patriot fans have

848
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 2: coveted AJ Brown.

849
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, Cynthia right, No one can ever

850
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 4: accuse Paula being overly positive.

851
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: The crew clearly.

852
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 4: Outline areas for improvement, even on the wins. Maybe Simon

853
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 4: only heard the positive because proportionally there were more of it.

854
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 4: The season was exponentially better than anticipated, even with the

855
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 4: devastating Super Bowl loss. We're on a twenty twenty six.

856
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 4: One thing we can be sure of is there will

857
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 4: be good, bad and ugly and it will be amazing

858
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 4: to watch.

859
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: So there you go and injured unfortunately.

860
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would just say that I try to

861
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: take each game individually and not be clouded by the

862
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: record or the past or the future whatever, and what

863
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 5: we see each week. And Mike and I talk a

864
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: lot as we're walking down from the press box on

865
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 5: home games, and certainly we talked the whole game. On

866
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: the road games, we adjust based off what we see.

867
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 5: It's not like, you know what, we've been a little

868
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 5: bit too positive lately. Let's let's take the other side,

869
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 5: or you know what, we've been beating the crap out

870
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 5: of him lately. You know, let's, you know, if they

871
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 5: if we feel like things are pretty good. And I

872
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 5: think Mike's point about Drake May, I think is really accurate.

873
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 5: There are times where we sort of have him in

874
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 5: no man's lands. Well, he made a great throat to

875
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 5: Hunter Henry, you know, against the Chargers for a touchdown.

876
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: But you know, aside from what he did with his legs,

877
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 5: he wasn't overly. So it's like he's not on the

878
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: good list, he's not on the bad list. He's just

879
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: sort of rides in between. And I think there were

880
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: a handful of games like that down the stretch. Anyway.

881
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff in Canada wants to know if the Patriots

882
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 4: were in on Waddle, Miami probably wouldn't have traded it

883
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: to us anyway.

884
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: I would agree with that. Yeah, I would find it

885
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 5: hard to believe that Miami would have wanted to help

886
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 5: out a division team unless we just blew him away

887
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 5: with the by far the best offer.

888
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: I mean, how how would you see him fitting in

889
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: with Dobbs too, just to play the play the game

890
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: of you know?

891
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 6: Is that pretty well?

892
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: That fits well.

893
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 6: Stretcher like you like Wattle. Wattle's got great speed like

894
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 6: you know, and I think that Dobbs is more of

895
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 6: like a possession, chain moving type of receiver. You probably

896
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 6: wouldn't like have like I guess, unless you consider Matt Collins,

897
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 6: and you wouldn't have like the center on your basketball team,

898
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 6: like you wouldn't have the guy that's gonna win the

899
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 6: ball down the field and do that sort of thing.

900
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 6: But those would have been two fun guys to have together.

901
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: What do you do you guys think, if if this

902
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: Aj Brown thing or any trade really has to happen

903
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: at June first, how does that affect your draft plans?

904
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: Because you won for one, Dobbs for Digs, so you

905
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: basically have your whole receiving core coming back at least

906
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: under contract. You know, do you draft the guy and

907
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: try to get him to push somebody off the roster

908
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: or do you not draft a guy? Because if you

909
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: draft a guy and then you get Aj Brown, you know,

910
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 2: and that might be fine. You might want to push

911
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: two guys off. That's fine, but it's just a numbers

912
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: issue right now. Where your room is what it was

913
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: last year. So any addition you make aj Brown rookie whatever,

914
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: or he's going to start to get into the territory

915
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: of pushing guys like Pop Douglas and Kyle Williams and

916
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, Matt Collins down down the duth chart. I

917
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: wonder how you approach that.

918
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: It's but I think you're in a position where if

919
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: you can make any unit better, you got to do it. Yeah,

920
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 4: you know, and if that pushes somebody off the roster,

921
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: so be it. You know, like you're always looking to upgrade.

922
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 6: It's a tough spot to be in with it, though,

923
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 6: because it's going to happen after the draft, right and

924
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 6: so if they do revisit it after the draft and

925
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 6: Eagles put you know, the beacon out there that he's.

926
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: Available, do you know what pushes two people?

927
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 6: Do New teams start coming back in that maybe didn't

928
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 6: get their receiver in the draft, and now all of

929
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 6: a sudden there's four teams that are interested.

930
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: Again, and it two first rights.

931
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 6: We're going right back down the rabbit hole again. Uh,

932
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 6: you know it's it's a risk. It's a risk to

933
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 6: wait until after the draft without any real way to pivot.

934
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 6: If he doesn't they don't land him, then you kind

935
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 6: of put yourself in a position where like you have

936
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 6: to just be the best offer.

937
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 5: I'll take the boring way out and just say either way,

938
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: you got to sort of stick to your board. You know,

939
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 5: you if the receiver you know, and I'm just talking

940
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 5: about a thirty one, if the receiver is your best player,

941
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 5: then I think you have to take it, even if

942
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 5: you think you might you may be getting a J.

943
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 5: Brown because you guys are right. I mean, they're going

944
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 5: to have an idea of right now, we kind of

945
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 5: think a J. Brown's on the backburn until June first. Well,

946
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 5: they might say they might know right now that there's

947
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 5: no way, there's no scenario that we're getting a J. Brown.

948
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 5: That might be out they'd know that. But either way,

949
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 5: to me, I think you have to stick to your board.

950
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 5: You don't want to reach, and I wouldn't ignore or receive.

951
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say, well, I'm going to go to the

952
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 5: next thing on the board because we don't need a receiver.

953
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 5: We're getting a J Brown unless it's like a huge

954
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: gap between players, Like I think you just stick.

955
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: Especially when there's so many that are you know, throwing

956
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 2: weaknesses or things that don't But there's so many exciting options,

957
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: like whether you're a fan of a big guy who

958
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: doesn't run that great or a little guy who runs great,

959
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: Like at that rookie contract price, at that place where

960
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: you're like, boom, this guy is locked in. We might

961
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: even have a fifth year option on him. There's just

962
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: so much appeal to me in that that it's hard

963
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: to like put that off if you really believe in

964
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: the guy, I guess to your point, if you love him,

965
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: take them.

966
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of you know, conversations this time

967
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: of year about like surplus value and like the quarterback

968
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 6: rookie contracts obviously number one, but you can make a

969
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 6: really good case that receiver, you know, really good receivers

970
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 6: on rookie contracts is like the number two most valuable

971
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 6: thing to have because those guys are making thirty plus

972
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 6: million dollars a year and we just saw alp Pierce,

973
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 6: you know, signed for twenty nine million dollars a year

974
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 6: like that. That's a big contract and so if you

975
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: have that player for four years, maybe even five with

976
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 6: the fifth year option under team control, Now you need

977
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 6: to hit like it needs to be a good player.

978
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 6: But if you can do that, that's sort of the

979
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 6: perfect storm of Now you have quarterback on a rookie

980
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 6: contract for another couple of years and a number one

981
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 6: receiver on a rookie contract. Like, if that opportunity is there,

982
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 6: then I think you got to take it.

983
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 4: Derek and Auburn writes in he says the open reminded

984
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: me of another team living rent free in Mike's head,

985
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 4: the Giants. I personally feel nothing negative for the Giants.

986
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 4: We had so many preseason games with them. It's where

987
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 4: Bill came from, et cetera. But losing to the Ravens

988
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: in the playoffs or losing the foot game to the

989
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: Jets affected me way more than that second Giant Super

990
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 4: Bowl loss. We were frauds that year, wondering what teams

991
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: are living rent free? For the crew who lives rent

992
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 4: free in your head?

993
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 5: A Patriots nobody. I spend way too much time thinking

994
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: about the Patriots.

995
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean that's different though, not to think

996
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 6: about the Patriots.

997
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: I think it's a little of the Bills.

998
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: Sure.

999
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean that's you know, your biggest rival, that's you know,

1000
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: if you had to pick one team you want to

1001
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: beat every year. They're the best other team in the division.

1002
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they live rent free in

1003
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: my head, but I'm very curious how they manage Josh Allen.

1004
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: I think Josh Allen is a great player, and I

1005
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: just think his journey as a quarterback is fascinating, especially

1006
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: when we get to this point where you know he's

1007
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: doing everything he possibly can, including turning the ball over,

1008
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, And I mean he just completed the game?

1009
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: Is him now? And so it's just and I also

1010
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: just wonder. I know, Buffalo hasn't been to a super

1011
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: Bowl since the nineteen hundred, so you know that fans are.

1012
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: Like, we got a guy like you got to cash in.

1013
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: I know what the pressure.

1014
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the very definition, that's the very definition

1015
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 5: of a team lives in.

1016
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: I just start charging him rent. I could use that money.

1017
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: But but look, I mean I got super obsessed with

1018
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: the Patriots when they lost in the playoffs and five

1019
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: that first Brady lost because time's a ticking and you

1020
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: only have so many bites at.

1021
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 4: The Apple, Well, at that point you didn't realize it.

1022
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: But you know you thought maybe you had five or six.

1023
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: But like at that point, you're saying, we have the

1024
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: best board young quarterback in the game, we have the

1025
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: best coach in the game. What are the challenges going

1026
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: to be to keep this? Look at this defense, it's

1027
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: all you know. So I just know as a fan

1028
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: when I looked at we've got, it's all clicking for

1029
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: us right now.

1030
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: But we all know it's a couple.

1031
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: Of plays here and there and you're losing an AFT

1032
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: championship game, or you know, you one year your defense

1033
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: is little down, and you know it's just it's so

1034
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: fickle and you want to maximize having this player when

1035
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: you do well.

1036
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 4: I would think the closest team right now, I would

1037
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 4: have to say is the Bills, because they're our biggest

1038
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 4: rival right now, and their fans are so obnoxious that

1039
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 4: you know, like I can't stomach them winning a Super Bowl.

1040
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 6: You know, don't have to worry about that.

1041
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 5: I don't think I have one.

1042
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 6: I don't have one either. I think maybe they have

1043
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 6: to care.

1044
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: I think that no about the other teams about anything.

1045
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 5: Oh, I like the NFL. That's that's that's ridiculous, that's untooled.

1046
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 6: I feel like it's, uh, my life has only been winning,

1047
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 6: so like why would it like there's nobody to hate.

1048
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: Like when I think of Evan Lazar, I think of winning.

1049
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 6: I mean like I was born in ninety two and

1050
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 6: the Patriots have been to ten Super Bowls.

1051
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 5: So I guess that's the kind of the way I

1052
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: look at it. Like when I was when I was

1053
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 5: a kid, when I was like fifteen, it would have

1054
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 5: been Miami. Actually, Miami was the team that lived in

1055
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: my head because they always won the division. They were

1056
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 5: always the team. I don't really feel like I have

1057
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 5: one of those teams.

1058
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: I think I think Kansas City got a little out

1059
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: of my head this year. It's just not making the playoffs.

1060
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: I still I didn't fully except they could be back,

1061
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: but like you know, they're just they were the best

1062
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: team and I was sick of them.

1063
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 4: Other than the Bills, you know, during the Rex Ryan years,

1064
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: certainly the Jets, I was great.

1065
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, we went a whole five years without going to

1066
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 6: you know, the play Oh my god. It was like

1067
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 6: like I don't know, like it just I've never I

1068
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 6: haven't known enough, like like the Giants like obviously irk

1069
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 6: me just because like really because of a way like

1070
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 6: you know, we should have had you know, we should

1071
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 6: have had the perfect season, but I did too much success.

1072
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but like they they're not an obnoxious

1073
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 4: franchise or their fan base. I don't think is obnoxious

1074
00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: the Giants. But yeah, I know, but he's he's a

1075
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: good guy, like you know, you know, just to not

1076
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 4: like Eli, you know all them, I make it pretty

1077
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 4: other than he'd beat you twice, right, Yeah, I don't know.

1078
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: I to have like a visceral you know, bad feeling

1079
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 4: about a team for them to be in my head

1080
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: like I did about Rex. Ryan had a little.

1081
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 5: I had a little for Denver too in the in

1082
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 5: the in the early nineties when they couldn't beat Away. Yeah,

1083
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 5: I feel like that that we are the one to

1084
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 5: better live renfree and and other like where that's us

1085
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: Like where the Red three team.

1086
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 6: When I was young, you.

1087
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 4: Know, the Pistons, you know, couldn't stand the Pistons, like

1088
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 4: losing to the dirty rotten Pistons.

1089
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Speaker 8: Your thoughts, I mean, I understand it to be big,

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Speaker 8: but just to I wouldn't really emphasize just.

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Speaker 7: Clearly the role that I I would assume.

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Speaker 8: It's just being the best player that I can be,

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Speaker 7: And you know, I know I know a little bit of.

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Speaker 8: Kyle because he's from Los Angeles where I was born

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Speaker 7: And I know there's many more in that room that

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Speaker 7: What is it?

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Speaker 2: What is it about working with Josh McDaniels and being

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Speaker 2: in this offense and excites you, especially after being in

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Speaker 2: the same kind of bless cost system here.

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Speaker 7: That's that's a great question. It's just I'm just grateful, Brough,

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Speaker 7: just grateful you have the chances to let the Drake Cadelo. Yes,

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Speaker 7: I have.

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Speaker 8: I spoke with Drake. He is an amazing person to

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Speaker 8: be around. I love his personality and I just love

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Speaker 8: who he was as a.

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Speaker 5: Personal You guys have a chance to talk about maybe

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Speaker 5: getting you know, a lot of wide receivers and quarter

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Speaker 5: backs have been and it's early been the off season

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Speaker 5: get together and just some throwing.

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, yeah, we have and you know, I look

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Speaker 7: forward to that real soul.

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Speaker 8: But again, then Drake's a great guy, lazing quarterback and

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Speaker 8: as in person, and I'm glad I get the deal.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking been fable, Josh, Drake seemed like this was

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Speaker 4: a perfect fit for you. They smiling about it and

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Speaker 7: Unless do you think this is the perfect fit for

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Speaker 7: your in your carey.

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Speaker 8: I think it's really good for my career, you know,

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Speaker 8: just from the sequence of events that has went on

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Speaker 8: within the last who knows what it can be weak

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Speaker 8: months X amount of years and super blessed. I'm very grateful.

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Speaker 8: I'm very painful to be exactly where do you smile

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Speaker 8: once you're quiet? You seem like you're quiet. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 8: yes I do, I do, because I know that's been aished,

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Speaker 8: that's been a question for a long time on my air.

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Speaker 7: I am, I do smile, I am doing me. I

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Speaker 7: do have emotions. But getting injury baud right, would you

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Speaker 7: look like you enjoyed the case?

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Speaker 4: Sorry I loved a guest. Yes, why.

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Speaker 7: Just that's where I come from. I grew up in

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Speaker 7: a harsh area of South LA and.

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Speaker 8: God that his biggest part injuries about in me and

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Speaker 8: every step that he can possibly make for me and

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Speaker 8: obviously just allow me to understand some things or walk

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Speaker 8: into some things that I didn't really know what I

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Speaker 8: was getting myself into, allowing me the band real experience for.

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Speaker 5: That for me, Like you've improved and added to your

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Speaker 5: bag every year of your career, is there a certain

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Speaker 5: area of growth in your particular A.

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Speaker 7: Crowd of.

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Speaker 8: Just yeah, I mean just the reflection of being a

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Speaker 8: ball player and obviously aligning with that off the field.

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Speaker 7: As well, and just just understanding that.

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Speaker 8: As much as being the best player that I can

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Speaker 8: be for this team is important, that being the best person.

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Speaker 7: That I can be off the field just as important.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry if this didn't ask before, but how is

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Speaker 4: Like you're coming in with winning expectations right away?

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Speaker 7: Does that excite you at all? Yes? Yes, I.

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Speaker 8: Understand what winning, what winning is, I know what it

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Speaker 8: looks like, and yeah, I just feel that just based

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Speaker 8: on what I have done thus far, there's a lot

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Speaker 8: more for improvement for me to just grow and keep

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Speaker 8: understanding what that it's like.

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Speaker 7: So appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Reuby. What do you think you've grown the

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Speaker 8: I've just been a ball player, obviously understanding the position

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Speaker 8: very well and continuously just finding a way to keep

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Speaker 8: understanding it.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, just.

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Speaker 8: Understanding what teams mean we're playing special teams means just

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Speaker 8: It was just a lot that has went on, and

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Speaker 8: I just understand that moving forward, with these years to come, that.

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Speaker 7: I will grow in all areas from football to life.

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Speaker 7: Holler round, maybe.

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Speaker 5: What'd say to you?

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Speaker 12: You know most about this opportunity who started to develop

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Speaker 5: What was the most exciting part about the honest play?

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Speaker 7: Uh, the most exciting part was the history that this.

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Speaker 8: Organization has and it's a lot of winning football and

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Speaker 8: playing in this league. The statistical factors is one thing.

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Speaker 8: Maybe someone is getting some individual accoladus another, but it

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Speaker 8: ultimately comes out the weather and I think that's purple.

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Speaker 12: What ex such about the wide receiver as well, where

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Speaker 12: stuff like last year even you're gigs here was more

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Speaker 12: than was any individuals.

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Speaker 4: What do you see from that group and is that

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Speaker 4: a factor as well in any work with them?

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Speaker 12: And Drake say that over the time Drake as well,

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Speaker 12: in addition to the wire or what stands out to

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Speaker 12: you you.

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Speaker 8: Uh, just being able to continue to continue to grow

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Speaker 8: together as a unit. And I emphasize, you know, just

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Speaker 8: my time at Green Bay where you know, all of

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Speaker 8: us as receivers from myself to Jayden to Christian or

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Speaker 8: Dn Tavian, which we all came in as a unit.

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Speaker 8: And I feel that with myself being here, I can

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Speaker 8: be able to continue that because I think I've manye.

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Speaker 13: There for the mind, how about how close this team

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Speaker 13: was Twinny Championship last year, Andrews, I feel like to

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Speaker 13: you this group coming in, you guys are all ready

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Speaker 13: to take that next staff and finish.

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Speaker 7: The the Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this why so?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, man?

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Speaker 8: Because it's it's experienced all around the room, from from

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Speaker 8: the from it can be from from the oldest guy

1289
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Speaker 8: in the room going down. It's just experience all around.

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Speaker 8: And again it'll it'll only get better room for it. Uh,

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Speaker 8: I'm excited man, and cateat.

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Speaker 4: And this lasting what what do you want Patriots fans?

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Speaker 4: No that like, who are you as a flair and

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Speaker 4: an individual?

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Speaker 5: And what do you vote to port on tape here.

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Speaker 7: New England.

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Speaker 8: Uh, we'll get to know someone who is very grounded,

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Speaker 8: who was very humble and most importantly to to themselves,

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Speaker 8: which comes in some form of self self respect, authenticity,

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Speaker 8: right sir, and.

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Speaker 7: Just knowing that I'm here to work and I'm going

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Speaker 7: to be here for anything other good lady.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And now great moments in.

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Speaker 4: History, you know in the media area down by the

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Speaker 4: rope there and all of a sudden this you know, Paul,

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00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 4: guys like that's Jason Tatum. I have to admit I

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Speaker 4: was a little bit starstruck.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 6: You know he's tall, and you you let me finish

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Speaker 6: my sentence.

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00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 14: Then you see Tatum standing next to an offensive lineman

1313
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 14: or like a massive behemoth of it of a d tackle,

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00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 14: and you're like, Tatum's really effing tall.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Like this new surgery, I know it's going to have

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Speaker 5: him back before this starts.

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Speaker 6: Can you let me have some hope, Paul for some seconds.

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Speaker 6: But so he had the surgery immediately, like within twenty

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Speaker 6: four hours, and then he had this new I thing.

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Speaker 5: It's called the speed bridge. It's like this new procedure

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01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 5: of how they sniff. You guys know me well enough

1323
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 5: to know that I am now an expert on Achilles Revere.

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01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 6: Let's be honest.

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01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 5: He had the speedbridge procedure with the best doctor in

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01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 5: the world, who performs his surgery in New York City.

1327
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 6: Say we're playing in New York when it happened.

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Speaker 5: So that's why she only had the surgery that night.

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Speaker 1: Can you can you let me that's a fact. That's

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Speaker 1: another great moment.

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Speaker 4: So while we're talking about retailed retail, I'm looking for

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Speaker 4: a pillow, you know, want to sleep on. I have

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Speaker 4: I have a well, you know they have throw pillows

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Speaker 4: and all all kinds of stuff, But I have like

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01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 4: a temper pedic pillow which is nice, but it's too thin.

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Speaker 4: I need something with a little bit more heft that

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01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 4: will get you know, fill that space between the shoulder

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Speaker 4: and the neck, you know, beside sleeper. So if anyone

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Speaker 4: has any, you know, I want the best pillow. Money

1352
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: is no object. I think memory memory foam. I I

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 4: lean toward that.

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Speaker 7: That's what I figured.

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but does that like fill the though, like if

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Speaker 2: you got it kind of bunched up between his ear.

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Speaker 6: WHOA, I was gonna I was gonna say something, but

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Speaker 6: you just read the bobs read. So maybe I'll tell

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Speaker 6: you about this afterwards, because it's.

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Speaker 4: So if anyone can anyone has discovered, much like I

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Speaker 4: discovered the best of other products, if you've discovered the

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Speaker 4: best pillow, please share.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 2: It's so hard to do because when you're shopping for

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Speaker 2: a pillow, you can't really test it out, and then

1366
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: all pillows get broken in, so you know, when you start,

1367
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: the starting point when it's in the store is completely

1368
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: different than when you actually like get the pillow in,

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01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: you know, broken into your head and sleeping soule.

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Speaker 4: So it's really hard.

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Speaker 2: I understand why you're asking for this bread.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot of people have this.

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01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: You just kind of wing it. You're like, just try

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Speaker 2: this one.

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Speaker 4: It's a journey.

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Speaker 2: Then you get one of those ones it's like feathers

1377
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: and it gets all like separated out and you've got

1378
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: like thin parts and thick parts. I mean, you can't

1379
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: do feathers anymore, right, But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Can't you do feathers anymore? No, it's allergies maybe, Oh,

1381
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 4: if you have allergies, you can't do it. You could

1382
01:02:59,360 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 4: never do it.

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01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: You get like the little the little parts poking in

1384
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: the face from the feathers, you know when they.

1385
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Speaker 5: Feel like those are like a big feather. Memory foam

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01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 5: or temper pedic or whatever.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: What pillows do you guys do?

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Speaker 5: I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Actually was a present though, as I think it was

1391
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: more because my wife saw my pillow without a pillowcase

1392
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 2: and was like, that's gross you're getting because you know

1393
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: what it looks like when you take the pillow case off.

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd be drooling, you know, wedding.

1395
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Speaker 5: Don't you have a pillow case for that?

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Speaker 2: We do, but you know underneath sometimes it gets through

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01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: and then you look, you're like this one, how much you're.

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Speaker 4: What do you use?

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Speaker 5: I don't really know.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't have anything.

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Speaker 4: Is it memory foam?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 5: No, But Beth has a memory phone, but she has

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Speaker 5: definitely rotated a few different versions because she has a similar.

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Speaker 7: Issue that you do.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Evan, you don't sleep, so it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 6: It's my sitting up watching my pillow was purchased a

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Speaker 6: competitor to the grade Bob's discount furniture. So I'm going

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Speaker 6: to keep it to myself, Okay, I don't want to

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Speaker 6: get us in.

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Speaker 4: Trouble, all right, Kristen, all right after me? Eight five five,

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Speaker 4: pass five hundred. Let's go to the phones people have

1415
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Speaker 4: been holding on. We'll go to Zach in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 4: What's up Zach?

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Speaker 16: Hey, guys, thanks taking my call.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 17: Oh, if both Cassius Howell and Zion Young are available

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Speaker 17: at thirty one, who would you, guys lean towards.

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Speaker 18: And you know, who's the better scheme fit, who has

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Speaker 18: the higher ceiling?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's a good question.

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Speaker 4: It's just for your mock draft or you're preparing your

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Speaker 4: mock that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we talked to me and we talked a little. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean Evan laid out.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Zion Young not quite the measurables they might want.

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Speaker 2: But Cashus Howel's got short arms, you know, and he

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Speaker 2: doesn't maybe have the exact dimensions. I think Cashus Howel

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Speaker 2: plays with his hair on fire and seems like that

1433
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Speaker 2: kind of guy. But there's a certain appeal to me

1434
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Speaker 2: of Zion Young's length, and you know, is necessarily what

1435
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: they had last year? Is that the rule? Or is

1436
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Speaker 2: that what they had? Would they mind having a bigger

1437
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: guy that that you know, maybe can do a little

1438
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: some things differently?

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Speaker 10: What was the guy?

1440
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 4: Was reported Patriots were having a thirty visit with OT,

1441
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 4: a safety handful of them. I thought it was an

1442
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Speaker 4: OT that they well, they've had about five reported ones

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 4: at this point.

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Speaker 6: I was, I was intrigued by the same Emanuel McNeil Warren. Yeah,

1445
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 6: he's he's a fun player. We can talk about him

1446
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 6: in a second. To answer the callers question, my hesitation

1447
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 6: was Zion Young is that he's two sixty five, two seventy,

1448
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 6: and I think that he's probably naturally more of a

1449
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 6: player that plays inside the tackles instead of outside the

1450
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 6: tackles as like a stand up rusher, just the way

1451
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 6: you know his big body, you know, big frame.

1452
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Speaker 5: Long arms.

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01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 6: So I don't know if he's necessarily the type of

1454
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 6: fit perfectly in their scheme right now where you know

1455
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 6: it's cash is howled like the coms for cash as howl.

1456
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 6: A lot of the times are Harold Landry, Like he's

1457
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 6: a guy that's built with speed and with bend around

1458
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 6: the edge and aggressiveness and just sort of a nose

1459
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 6: for the football. So he seems to be more of

1460
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 6: their natural fit. You know, du just mentioned the arm length,

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Speaker 6: but I think that's why he would be available at

1462
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Speaker 6: thirty one. Like you're picking thirty one now, like you're

1463
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Speaker 6: not picking fourth where you can just kind of have

1464
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 6: the pick of the litter. So if he fallows to

1465
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 6: thirty one because of his arm length, I feel pretty

1466
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 6: comfortable taking my chances on a guy that I think

1467
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 6: is a top twenty talent in this draft that might

1468
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 6: not have the ideal measurables and that's why he's slid

1469
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 6: a little bit. I like Zion Young in terms of

1470
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Speaker 6: his play style. I just I don't know if it's

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Speaker 6: a fit. There was some offield stuff too that they

1472
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 6: would have to get through as well, but I put TJ.

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Speaker 2: Parker in that kind of group. Two from Clemson is

1474
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: another like, yeah, edge, late, first edge that's available. That's

1475
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: a common target in some of the mock drafts.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, power oriented, you know, like that's a he's a

1477
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 6: speed to power bowl rusher, physical player, you know, pretty

1478
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 6: good though. I like him, and you know, a key

1479
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 6: Mesidor from Miami's sort of like the cluster, like I

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 6: think Arboys and Thomas has kind of dropped off maybe

1481
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 6: a little bit into the Day two conversation early day two,

1482
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 6: but already visits. You know, the ones that we know

1483
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 6: of as of right now, there's about four or five

1484
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 6: of them are Mason Thomas is one of them. And McNeil.

1485
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 6: Warren was on Kay Adams' podcast yesterday and said that

1486
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 6: he's been here and had a thirty visit with him

1487
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 6: as well. So he's a safety, but you know, he

1488
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 6: draws to me a lot of similarities to Nick amm

1489
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 6: and Warry with Seattle, where he's like kind of like

1490
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 6: a box nickel safety that can really play all over

1491
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 6: the defense at all three levels and do a bunch

1492
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 6: of different things. Physical, big dude like six three fifteen

1493
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 6: to ten, really good play strength, really good open field tackler,

1494
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 6: can take on blocks, can play a little bit in

1495
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 6: the deep part of the field if you want him

1496
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 6: to do that. He's he's a really impressive player.

1497
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: I wonder with him too, And like just to say

1498
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 2: a lot of these like mock drafts, you look at

1499
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: or do. It feels like safety and defensive tackle are

1500
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: two positions that, at least in mock drafts for where

1501
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: do they count seem to kind of fall a little bit.

1502
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: And there's you know, a bunch of really high rated

1503
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: defensive tackles there, you know, v skuy. I wonder if

1504
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: that could feed into the concerns with coverage on the linebackers,

1505
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: and maybe we take go a little bit more three

1506
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: safety and we use one of those kind of guys

1507
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: to handle tight ends rather than putting it on Spoleene, Like,

1508
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 2: you know, could you evolve the scheme a little bit

1509
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: that way by drafting a third safety to play with

1510
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: with buyer to that's been I thought.

1511
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 6: They didn't play enough dime last year, and I just

1512
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 6: really feel like that's the one thing that you see

1513
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 6: a lot of these defenses like Seattle do that just

1514
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 6: causes a lot of flexibility because you can you can

1515
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 6: still maintain your structure of having those two safeties deep.

1516
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 6: But then this third geit safety is kind of like

1517
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 6: a free player, and you can kind of just play

1518
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 6: games with him, whether he's blitzing, whether he's playing like

1519
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 6: at the second level as a robber, whether he's manning

1520
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 6: up tight ends, like he just sort of becomes like, hey,

1521
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 6: you know, he can put out fires like wherever you

1522
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 6: kind of see a game plan concern. That's exactly where

1523
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 6: Seattle used him and worry and why he had such

1524
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 6: a great rookie year was because he was just all

1525
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 6: he's playing, you know, a role that was sort of

1526
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 6: very game plan specific, and they used him in a

1527
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 6: multitude of different ways, whereas like Bayern and Woodson are

1528
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 6: more like, you know, typical safety type players.

1529
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: If you can get a guy like Kyle Hamilton, then

1530
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 4: you're all set.

1531
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, and and but like that's sort of like the

1532
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 6: apex right and em and warriors like come pretty close

1533
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 6: to it honestly as a rookie. But you know, that

1534
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 6: type of player is what McNeil Warren is kind of

1535
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 6: touted as, like that, that's the sort of dude. We're

1536
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 6: talking about.

1537
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 4: Herm's in DC. What's up? Herm? Herm? Herm is gone. Well,

1538
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 4: he was on the phone for over an hour, so

1539
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 4: I don't blame him about talking over each other. David

1540
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 4: Maine says, the great podcaster Joe Rogan makes all his

1541
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 4: guests wear headphones, and he says that when you're hearing

1542
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 4: your own voice and headphones, you won't talk over each other.

1543
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: Maybe try that, Fred, I like I rather like not

1544
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,919
Speaker 4: having headphones. I like himphones. You like headphones.

1545
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 2: I why I can hear myself?

1546
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 7: I can. I don't know.

1547
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 4: I can't hear yourself now, No, but I hear how.

1548
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1549
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: There's a difference between actually hearing how you're speaking. I

1550
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: think I enjoy it more.

1551
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 7: I mean we do.

1552
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: We do it for the outside ones when we do

1553
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 2: the trade.

1554
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 4: When you're outside, you got a lot of stuff going on.

1555
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: But I think it limits some of the talking over.

1556
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: It also limits my joke telling. When I do jokes

1557
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: under my breath, not everyone can hear them all the time.

1558
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 2: So I think it limits my one of my biggest

1559
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: The headphones make you because you guys can hear when

1560
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: I do a little yeah that's not what he said.

1561
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: I do a little thing like that, and then you

1562
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: don't hear it because so that you have the mic

1563
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: in front of your mouth.

1564
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 4: So it's the mic that's helping you, not the headphone.

1565
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's helping you guys hear what I'm saying.

1566
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 5: So I'll throw myself on the grenade, because let's face it,

1567
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 5: this is everybody's this is directed at me. I'm the

1568
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 5: one who argues, probably talks over people. So I will

1569
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 5: no longer do that. I will do my best to

1570
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 5: not you know, make the show entertaining me.

1571
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: You'll still yell at me once in every six years.

1572
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 6: I have never once been offended by talking over me

1573
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 6: or anybody else.

1574
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 4: It's just hard to hear.

1575
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 6: Oh God, and the commounts of complaints that that people

1576
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 6: have for those types of things, Like it's like that

1577
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 6: you really spend time work like complaining about yeah, every

1578
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 6: now and then hell breaks going on. You know you

1579
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 6: can't you're talking over people or you know this, this

1580
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 6: person's doing that and that person's It was like, just

1581
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 6: just listen to the show.

1582
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 5: As a loser who listens to a lot of talk

1583
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 5: radio and a lot of stuff like this, the ones

1584
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 5: that I find entertaining and worth listening to are the

1585
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 5: ones that I find the most authentic. And when you

1586
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 5: get someone that's like really worked up about something, it's

1587
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 5: hard to fake that. Now do people have faux outrage

1588
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 5: all the time, But you can tell, oh, you can

1589
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 5: tell when it's fake, Like Mike, I could tell immediately

1590
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 5: last week was really into the Bills take. And that's

1591
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 5: why I attacked because I knew it was real. And

1592
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 5: I didn't do it because, oh this is great, let's argue.

1593
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 5: I did it because I legitimately disagreed with him, And

1594
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 5: I think that's healthy debate. I think that's what makes

1595
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 5: this medium entertaining. Now, sometimes when you do that, when

1596
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 5: you really feel strongly about the side you're talking about,

1597
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 5: there are going to be times when two guys are talking.

1598
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 4: I thought his rant yesterday about the NCAA basketball was

1599
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 4: a little bit faux.

1600
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 5: Well you're talking about you're talking about. I heard that

1601
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 5: rant yesterday, and it's a typical mic thing. You're conflating

1602
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 5: two different things and you're making it all to be

1603
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 5: the same. He hates people talking about their brackets. I

1604
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 5: do too, and I think most people do. I always

1605
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 5: say this, No one cares about your golf game. No

1606
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 5: one cares about your brackets or your fantasy football team. Right,

1607
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 5: No one cares about any of that stuff.

1608
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 6: Are your kids' sports?

1609
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 5: That's another one.

1610
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 6: Okay, sorry to the people at this table.

1611
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 5: He can he like extrapolates. You won't hear anybody talking

1612
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 5: about the NCAA basketball tournament here.

1613
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, well that's great because.

1614
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 5: You don't know anything about it. No one's allowed to

1615
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 5: talk about it. No one wants to go on your

1616
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 5: show and say I have Austin p which was his

1617
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 5: example in the Final four. Right, that's not what people

1618
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 5: want to do.

1619
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 4: But you're not going to talk about the whole tournament.

1620
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 5: Around here, they wear it as a badge of honor

1621
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 5: that they know absolutely zero about college football or college basketball. See,

1622
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 5: and that's somehow something that they're proud of, two of them.

1623
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 6: I think that the part to me that confuses me

1624
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 6: about that is I'm not I don't have a team

1625
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 6: to root for, and I don't have a dog in

1626
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 6: the fight. I used to root for Duke, to be

1627
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 6: honest with you, but I don't like I go there.

1628
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 6: So it's not like a big, strong allegiance. But I

1629
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 6: just it helps me in my day job to know

1630
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 6: the players in the draft that are playing in these games. Yes, so, like,

1631
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 6: even though you might not be a college sports fan,

1632
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 6: at some point, Cameron Boozer is going to be playing

1633
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 6: the Celtics in a big game that you're gonna have

1634
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 6: to talk about and it's good to know who the

1635
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 6: heck Cameron Boozer is. And I just like that's the

1636
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 6: part that I don't understand.

1637
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 5: It couldn't have been any more perfectly illustating. And I

1638
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 5: love you guys, know. I love Mike and TONI I

1639
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 5: love going on this shows, but I think that they're

1640
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 5: full of crap a lot of the time, and this

1641
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 5: is one of them. The perfect example is last year

1642
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 5: what Evan's talking about, Tony Maz really didn't have a

1643
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 5: clue as to who Cooper Flag was.

1644
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: Oh, I remember that he really didn't like he was,

1645
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 3: like he was just overrated because a he didn't know

1646
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 3: who he was and then be he found out he

1647
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 3: was white, and like that made him over from me,

1648
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 3: you know.

1649
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 5: And you know, Cooper Flag, I don't know how great

1650
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 5: he's going to be, you know, over the balance of

1651
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 5: his career, but he's obviously every bit worthy of the

1652
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 5: number one overall pick. And that a fine rookie year,

1653
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 5: albeit for a terrible team.

1654
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 6: Well I mean, I think it even better if it

1655
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 6: wasn't on a terrible team. I remember Maz gave that

1656
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 6: take and Cooper Flag was on the USA Select team,

1657
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 6: which is like the B team that goes to the

1658
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 6: camp to practice. It's like the practice squad for a

1659
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 6: team USA. And Cooper Flag in the select team like

1660
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 6: played a down to the wire game against the actual

1661
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 6: USA basketball team, and after the game, Lebron James said

1662
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 6: Cooper Flag was the best player on the court for

1663
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 6: either team. And Tony Mas goes on the radio and

1664
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 6: is like.

1665
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 5: He's a bump, and I was just like, yeah, you

1666
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 5: guys don't like college sports, and that again, you don't

1667
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 5: have to like everything that I like. I mean, I

1668
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 5: really like hockey and a lot of people don't. It's

1669
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 5: a niche sport, the NHL hockey in general. I watch

1670
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 5: a lot of college hockey. A lot of people don't

1671
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 5: watch it. I'm not offended by it in any way.

1672
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 5: For some reason, they take offense if you like sports

1673
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 5: and they don't. Well, I don't really understand.

1674
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 4: My psychological profile of Mike is that he resents the

1675
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,879
Speaker 4: fact that he has to work so hard to maintain

1676
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 4: his Nantucket lifestyle, so he has no time for people

1677
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 4: who actually have the passion for things like college and

1678
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 4: it comes out. It comes out. You can tell that

1679
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 4: he would rather be not doing this, but he has

1680
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 4: to do it.

1681
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, like I said, with the draft,

1682
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 6: like they go they have barth on this time of

1683
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 6: year and they make fun of him for knowing all

1684
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 6: these players. And it's like, you know, Indiana and Miami

1685
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 6: just played in the College football National Championship. There was

1686
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 6: twenty NFL players on the field in that game. So

1687
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 6: if you paid any second of attention to that, like

1688
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 6: we how many times, Douce have we brought up Omar

1689
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 6: Cooper Junior or a keey mesador or any of the

1690
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 6: guys that played in that game, and like you would

1691
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 6: at least have some sort of like be oh, yeah,

1692
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 6: I remember him. He played in the National Championship, and

1693
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 6: they're pretty good.

1694
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,480
Speaker 4: It's good to speak with some basis of knowledge.

1695
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 6: Right, But that's an NFL. That's you know, not even

1696
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 6: talking about it being a college football thing.

1697
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 5: But you could also be in between that, like you

1698
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 5: don't have to know every single guy, no, but it helps,

1699
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 5: But you also don't have to close your eyes and

1700
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 5: go out of your way not to know any of them, right,

1701
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 5: which is what they do right, right?

1702
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 7: All right?

1703
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 4: What's really important? A Pillows in Stacy in California has

1704
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 4: a suggestion, what do you got Stacey bring it to me.

1705
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 16: Well, my son researches everything kind of like you do, Fred,

1706
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 16: and I've appreciated your suggestions throughout the years. I'm still

1707
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 16: trying to get my husband to buy a speed Queen,

1708
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 16: but his recommendation. I bought it for him. He loves it,

1709
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 16: and then I bought it two other people and they

1710
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 16: love it.

1711
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 4: Is a pillow cube. Pillow cube, Okay.

1712
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 16: It's one of those things you got to buy online.

1713
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 16: I'm not getting a kickback. I don't own any interest

1714
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 16: in the company. One of those things comes in a box,

1715
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 16: you know.

1716
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 4: Like those mattresses do, and then it like yeah, it's compressed,

1717
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 4: and then it comes out. Yeah.

1718
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: They sold over one point five million.

1719
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 4: Okay, pillow cube. All right, I'm gonna go do my research.

1720
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 4: Thanks Stacy, all right, thank you. Steve from Pittsburgh writes

1721
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 4: in I recently bought my side sleeper wife who has

1722
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 4: a long struggle depth shoulder problem pain. That's me a

1723
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 4: Medcline pillow. It's great. It's a whole system designed for

1724
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 4: side sleepers and provides a ton of heft between your

1725
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 4: neck and shoulder. Med Cline. Write that down MEDUSA and

1726
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 4: client you've got the Cube, pillow Cube, and the med cline.

1727
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 2: I mean the cube one is a cube. It's literally

1728
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 2: a cube, which you know usually pillows kind of rounded edges.

1729
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: This one, you know, it's hard, so maybe it would

1730
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 2: be good for your specifically designed for side sleepers too, Okay,

1731
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 2: special side sleepers.

1732
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm going I'm gonna make a purchase tonight online for whatever.

1733
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 6: It is that I decided.

1734
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Speaker 4: So this is this is big, is big.

1735
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: I tried to order one and it says four or

1736
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: four page off found, so maybe they got to update

1737
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: their ones.

1738
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Spiing Fresno says, I'll throw my hat in the

1739
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 4: ring with the pillow brand. Healthy Sleep their memory foam

1740
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 4: hyperallergenic materials, but sleep cool and are designed to promote

1741
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 4: proper spinal alignment for side sleepers. They have varying loft levels,

1742
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 4: so the high loft version might be right for you,

1743
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,919
Speaker 4: given that, as mister lifuse to say, you have shoulders

1744
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 4: like boulders. We just got a new mattress, went with

1745
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 4: King Coyle and wanted performance pillows, which described the Healthy

1746
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 4: Sleep brand. However, they are not bank breakers. I know

1747
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 4: that's not important to you, but I think these fine

1748
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 4: sleep materials will be a suitable addition to your palatial estate. Listen,

1749
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 4: money is always an issue. But you cry, you buy ones.

1750
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 4: Cry once with the pillow, get a good pillow, something

1751
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 4: like pabo that.

1752
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 5: Says it's okay, she's been through a lot of them.

1753
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 4: Okay, I need to write these down. I need to

1754
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 4: write these down. Does anyone have a pen?

1755
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 2: When we got the med climb, we got the side

1756
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: cube and what what's what's what's the pillow cube?

1757
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 6: The E P A B.

1758
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 5: But it's just a conto memory foam pillow.

1759
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then what was the other one? Oh?

1760
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 5: That?

1761
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 4: And then the healthy sleep? Did you write down health

1762
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 4: healthy one?

1763
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, just write it down though, I mean you

1764
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: can get that one ergonomical cerrocal pillow.

1765
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 4: Okay, he just turned it all right, we're off to

1766
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 4: a hate starts.

1767
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: I mean, these med climb ones. I mean you're talking yep,

1768
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty bucks?

1769
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 4: Oh is that right? Really? Wow?

1770
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 5: That's that's a deal breaker for you.

1771
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 4: Well, if I want pillow, I want? Oh no, if

1772
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 4: if listen, don't underestimate the power of good sleep.

1773
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 5: Oh no, I wouldn't know.

1774
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 4: It's uninterrupted, deep rem sleep, you know, it's healthy, it's

1775
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 4: healthier for you. Paul, you should look into it. I

1776
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 4: believe me.

1777
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 5: I know I should, But I haven't had a go

1778
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 5: on like the seventh grade.

1779
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 4: You have you thought about pills? No, I don't sleeping pills.

1780
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 5: I don't.

1781
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that.

1782
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 6: PM is like not for that deuce like melowtonin like

1783
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 6: something healthy.

1784
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: You can take a bath with bath salts. I guess

1785
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 2: that gets the call you a bath guy.

1786
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 5: I don't really like taking No, I haven't taken a bathroom.

1787
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 4: You don't go to the Evert bath house.

1788
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 5: There is not an ever bath house. There's no no

1789
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 5: beach in Evert, no bath I.

1790
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 4: Thought there was a bathhouse in Evert. All the old

1791
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 4: guys sit around.

1792
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: That's that's just the rest of.

1793
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 5: Hang hanging low. Yeah. No, I think that there's not

1794
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 5: really any pill that's going to be able to pay

1795
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 5: for anything that I need. So that's that's the issue

1796
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 5: for my sleep.

1797
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I understand that.

1798
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 4: Paul Max writes in so back to football, if anyone

1799
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 4: has If anyone has pillows stuff, put it in your subject.

1800
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 6: Or to talk about football. Now, fine, good afternoon.

1801
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 4: As good as AJ Brown has been, he's older and

1802
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 4: it appeared he was not happy while winning a Super Bowl.

1803
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 4: I prefer Jacksonville's Thomas over him. He's not available, though

1804
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen said he's not interested. He comes in under Vrabels,

1805
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 4: younger and cheaper.

1806
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's true. If Brian Thomas Junior was available,

1807
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 6: then we would.

1808
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 5: I would prefer Brian Thomas now I would, but I

1809
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 5: don't I believe the report that he's not available.

1810
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 4: David in Madrid, finally able to watch the show live

1811
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 4: for the first time in a while. Patriots have eleven

1812
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 4: picks in the draft would lead me to two questions. One,

1813
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 4: is there such a thing as having too many picks?

1814
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 4: I think yes. Two, Which of the following op since

1815
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 4: do you believe is most probable out of three? A

1816
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 4: they use all of the picks and double dip in

1817
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 4: certain positions edge, tight end, wide receiver, et cetera. B

1818
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 4: they use a few of those picks to trade up

1819
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 4: in the mid rounds or see they trade for veteran players.

1820
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 4: What do you think they'll do? Multiple picks at multiple positions,

1821
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 4: so you think they'll use eleven picks.

1822
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 6: I think they will come pretty close. Like maybe I

1823
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 6: just think that the the value of the picks where

1824
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 6: they have multiple picks in the round is not very high,

1825
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 6: Like you have four to six round picks, right, Like.

1826
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 4: What I was just going to say, like having eleven

1827
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 4: picks and a lot of them are second, third, and

1828
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 4: fourth guys.

1829
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 5: That's eight of the eleven picks or later exactly right,

1830
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 5: So it's.

1831
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 6: Not exactly like they have a ton of value in

1832
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 6: all these draft picks that they have. You know, I

1833
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 6: wouldn't say they double dip at receiver. I think you know,

1834
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 6: Due's kind of outlined it earlier, like you already have

1835
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 6: a lot of bodies in that room. But you know,

1836
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 6: double dipping at tight end makes some sense. Double dipping

1837
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 6: on the offensive line or defensive lines is always you

1838
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 6: always can use bodies at those types of positions. So

1839
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 6: you know, I could see either one of all the

1840
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 6: above there. You know, two tight ends makes a lot

1841
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 6: of sense. It's a really deep diight end class. But

1842
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 6: it's hard to kind of parse through who's better than

1843
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 6: whom in some of these, you know situations like I've

1844
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 6: been getting into some of the day three tight ends

1845
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 6: now and it's like, you know, they have pros and

1846
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 6: cons all of them, and it's you know you throw

1847
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 6: two darts, then you'd double your chances again.

1848
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 4: Paul in Providence a few episodes ago, Fred was saying

1849
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 4: Booty still has some upside left. I stand by that,

1850
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 4: and Evan was more along the lines that at this

1851
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 4: point he is what he is. I agree with Evan.

1852
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 4: We have seen enough to have a good idea that

1853
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 4: what he's shown what he is. That said so too

1854
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 4: was Dobbs. He's a serviceable low end number two and

1855
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 4: having shown what he is over four seasons, projecting above

1856
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 4: and beyond that is risky. How many times have the

1857
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 4: Patriots signed a wide receiver in the knee jerk reaction

1858
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 4: that the Patriots will unlock his potential by using him

1859
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 4: the the way he should be used because the previous

1860
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 4: team had no idea how.

1861
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:03,560
Speaker 7: To do so.

1862
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 4: Who is the last wide receiver not named Welker to

1863
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 4: have success with the Patriots not seen on a previous team.

1864
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 6: I would just I don't necessarily disagree with that premise.

1865
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 6: I would disagree with the low end number two part

1866
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 6: on Romeo Dobbs. I think Romeo Dobbs is a quality

1867
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 6: number two receiver, not a low end number two receiver.

1868
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 6: And I don't think anybody's really expecting him to be

1869
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 6: more than that here.

1870
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 5: No, I agree with the emailer. I think that Dobbs

1871
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 5: kind of is what he is too. Now if he

1872
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 5: stays healthy and maybe that might be the difference. Could

1873
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 5: his numbers go up a little bit, Yeah, but I

1874
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 5: think the kind of receiver he is, No, I don't

1875
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 5: think you're all of a sudden going to see like

1876
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 5: a fifteen hundred yard season out of him, you know.

1877
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 6: But I don't think it's out of the realm that

1878
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 6: he could be pushing a thousand. Yeah, because of the

1879
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 6: volume that's he might get a few more opportunities. But

1880
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 6: at the same time, I agree with the emailer. Like

1881
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 6: he was on a team that they spread their wealth.

1882
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 6: He's coming to a team that they spread the wealth. Like,

1883
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 6: I don't think this a huge difference, but I kind

1884
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 6: of like the premise is what it is. I think

1885
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 6: that Dobbs is kind of four years in five years

1886
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 6: in this is what you're gonna get, you know.

1887
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 5: But I think that's pretty good. I don't think it's

1888
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 5: a low end guy. I think he's a solid too.

1889
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: I think Elliott said last week he thought that that

1890
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 2: Booty could move around a little bit more. I think

1891
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: that potentially could be something that could I think.

1892
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1893
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 6: I'm just aware of that point of it. Like I

1894
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 6: keep hearing that that all he's really is isy and

1895
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 6: he can play more inside and like maybe pre injury

1896
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 6: lsu Kseh on Booty was that guy. I just don't

1897
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 6: see like the suddenness and the separation ability that like

1898
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 6: he's this is a guy that wins with like play

1899
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 6: strength and body positioning and hands and like that that

1900
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 6: sort of thing. And I keep hearing that, and it's

1901
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 6: not just like to come at deuce Like I keep

1902
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 6: hearing that. Elliot Wolf said it. Other people have said it, Oh,

1903
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 6: he's really misscast in this offense. And it's like three

1904
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 6: different regimes have played him on the outside at this point,

1905
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 6: Like ye, at what point is that like just who

1906
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 6: he is?

1907
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you're not coming to me for sure.

1908
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I I with you. I think that's kind

1909
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 2: of what he is at this point. But I just

1910
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: wonder when you look at the group, do they try

1911
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 2: to see if they can get anything more out of him?

1912
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1913
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you know, Josh in year two, does

1914
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: he see something? I would think that if Josh had

1915
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 2: grand designs on what he could do with Keishambudi, it

1916
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: would happened last year.

1917
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 5: My question with that, you know, and I think you

1918
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 5: can make it to be whatever you want it to be,

1919
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 5: like there's more in there. Okay, So does that mean

1920
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,919
Speaker 5: he would catch more passes? Yeah, I think it's reasonable

1921
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 5: to expect him to catch more passes than he caught

1922
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 5: last year. Does he make more plays? I don't think

1923
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 5: you will. And then you start to wonder.

1924
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 6: You ask.

1925
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 5: The downfield stuff, the big plays, the touchdowns? Is that

1926
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 5: more important to you? Like I I for Alec Pierce,

1927
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 5: the reason that he intrigued me was he's a thousand

1928
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 5: yard receiver on low volume. I find that to be

1929
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 5: incredibly valuable and incredibly rare. I think there's a lot

1930
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 5: of guys that give you ninety catches for a thousand yards.

1931
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 5: There ain't a lot of guys that give you fifty

1932
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 5: catches for a thousand yards. I'll take the ladder. A

1933
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 5: lot of other people think it's more important to get,

1934
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 5: you know, the receptions and the first downs and all

1935
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 5: that stuff. What Booty brought to the offense last year.

1936
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 4: Was plays fifty four thousand.

1937
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 5: You're changing games, right, And I think Booty changed some

1938
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 5: games last year, you know, with some of the big

1939
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 5: plays that he made, you know, not the least of

1940
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 5: which was the one handed touchdown against Houston's in this game, right, Like,

1941
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 5: I don't want to lose those at the expense of

1942
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 5: him catching thirty more passes, right, but not making those

1943
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 5: kinds of plays. So someone might, reasonably not being wrong, say, well,

1944
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 5: he see he was much more valuable he caught thirty

1945
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 5: more passes. I would probably argue if he did that

1946
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 5: at the expense of the big plays, that you got

1947
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 5: a lesser player.

1948
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just when you look at him, like, do

1949
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 6: you look at him as like a digs that's going

1950
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 6: to be in the slot, like breaking the reading coverage

1951
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 6: and finding soft spots and getting separate, Like, I just

1952
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 6: I don't think that that's necessarily his game. I think

1953
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 6: that's what a lot of people hoped his game was

1954
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 6: gonna be, and just, unfortunately is his career path has

1955
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 6: kind of took him away from that.

1956
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 4: Joe from Supporo Maine rights in Maine support Japan. Oh

1957
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 4: why didn't I say, may? I don't know, I had

1958
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 4: I had Maine on my mind. We were talking about

1959
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 4: Cooper flag, go.

1960
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 5: Find my son and give him some money. He's really

1961
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 5: annoying right now.

1962
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 4: My question is the presence of number one receiver. I

1963
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,879
Speaker 4: read that Elliott Wolf said that OC Josh McDaniel's offense

1964
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 4: is designed in such a way that the defense can't

1965
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 4: key on the number one receiver. But I remember when

1966
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 4: Tom Brady thrived, he was teamed with Randy Moass one year,

1967
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 4: like in O seven, and look how good Brady was

1968
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 4: that year. Then there was Rob Gronkowski during the Super

1969
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 4: Bowl years of sixteen to nineteen. So I think the

1970
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 4: presence of a number one receiver does count. That's why

1971
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 4: I don't want the Patriots to stop looking for that

1972
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 4: receiver this coming season. AJ Brown maybe, but I hope

1973
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 4: they find another receiver, either in the draft or other

1974
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 4: free agents. What do you think?

1975
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 6: So, yeah, I think the way the question was posed,

1976
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 6: because I've seen the folk go around, I have to

1977
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 6: go in context. Yeah, the way the way the question

1978
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 6: was posed was like, can you win games without a

1979
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 6: number one wide receiver? And was he supposed to say no?

1980
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 5: Right?

1981
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 6: Because they're trying a corner, right, we all know looking

1982
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 6: at their roster objectively that they probably don't have a true,

1983
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 6: bona fide number one receiver. So if he comes out

1984
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 6: in a media session and says, yeah, no, you can't

1985
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 6: win big without a number one wide receiver, then he's

1986
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 6: basically saying that they're not they're short players, right. So

1987
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 6: I think that the way that it was phrased, he

1988
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 6: sort of said, well, you know, there's there's different ways

1989
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 6: to do it. And I think, you know, the Dabbs

1990
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 6: situation in Green Bay was kind of pointing to that

1991
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 6: a little bit of like this was a team that

1992
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 6: had four or five guys that kind of shared the

1993
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,759
Speaker 6: ball and they were able to be a pretty active offense.

1994
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 6: But I don't I think it was more about the

1995
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 6: context of the question.

1996
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 2: I think you got to always keep trying, and that's yeah,

1997
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 2: you know, and look the draft every year, there's dozens

1998
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 2: of these guys. I mean, we've been doing the draft

1999
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 2: like hardcore for a while now, and it's just every

2000
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 2: single season you see guys who potentially coming out look

2001
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 2: like game changers, and that's what you got to find.

2002
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 2: For Drake some point, I continue to look at the

2003
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 2: tight end position. I just that's as much as people

2004
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: are obsessed with that number one receiver. I would love

2005
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 2: to see, you know, a legit move tight end that

2006
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 2: can really just create some mismatches. I think it fits

2007
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,560
Speaker 2: Drake well. I think if it's the offense, well, I

2008
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 2: think it takes some of the pressure off of the

2009
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 2: wide receivers. I just continue to see that. I don't

2010
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 2: know if a rookie's going to come in and be

2011
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 2: that guy, but I see that that tight end spot

2012
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 2: is a huge opportunity.

2013
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just wonder with a receiver. I think we

2014
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 6: are seeing that receiver talent is starting to climb draft

2015
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 6: boards every single year, where like there used to be

2016
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 6: you know times where you know, we talk a lot

2017
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 6: about the nineteen class that guys like Terry McLaurin or

2018
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 6: Puoka you know, goes in the fourth or fifth round.

2019
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 6: But I don't see that happen as much anymore. I

2020
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 6: think a lot of the times now, these receivers that

2021
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 6: are coming in and making like instant splashes and instant

2022
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 6: you know, immediate impacts or top fifty picks, and so

2023
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 6: you kind of have to go out and get that

2024
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 6: guy early. Like I don't think that the days of

2025
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 6: you know, you found you know, the stud receiver in

2026
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 6: the fourth or fifth round. I'm not sure you're going

2027
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 6: to get that. Tight ends a different story, Like, that's

2028
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 6: a position and there's been a lot of studies about it,

2029
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 6: Like athletic testing is. If there's anything the combine is

2030
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 6: worth looking at, it's at the tight end position. It's

2031
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 6: the one position where athletic traits really translate to NFL production.

2032
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 6: And a big reason for it is because of the

2033
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 6: way they use tight ends in college. They don't throw

2034
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 6: to the tight ends as often in college and create

2035
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 6: mismatches with tight ends in college as much as they

2036
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 6: do in the pros. So some of these guys that

2037
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 6: you know where these great combine testers have been the

2038
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 6: ones that have hit the biggest at that position.

2039
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 4: Vincent in North Carolina has another Pillow suggestion the wolf

2040
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 4: Shire no plastics, organic handmade sheep to bed.

2041
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 6: Is that it sounds like a fancy hotel, the Wolfshire.

2042
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,839
Speaker 5: Now we know the we know the will show the Wilshire.

2043
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it's the Woolshire, wol woolfshore wool. Yeah, I

2044
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 2: mean eighty these these don't look good to me, Fred,

2045
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:18,799
Speaker 2: This doesn't look like you're.

2046
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 4: I will put it on the list. I'm going to

2047
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 4: do my research.

2048
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be a great It's going to

2049
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 2: take a nap at various stores.

2050
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 4: You can't do that. That's the problem, is the hygienic thing.

2051
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: You really try it out.

2052
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 4: I put my head on you know, John and Derby England.

2053
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 4: Sorry for the possibly dumb question, but I have not

2054
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 4: heard this idea ever talked about. I live in England

2055
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 4: and follow football soccer very closely. And teams can do

2056
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 4: deals in advance. Arsenal wants a player from PSG for

2057
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 4: a twenty six twenty seven season, for example, then they

2058
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 4: can do the deal now and announce the details in

2059
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 4: the press. Is there any way we could offer a

2060
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 4: team picks from this year's draft but announce we don't

2061
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 4: be getting the player until June? Or is that just

2062
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 4: not permitted in the NFL?

2063
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 6: Not allowed unfortunately? Like you you can't designate a trade

2064
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 6: as a post June one trade, like you can designate

2065
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 6: a cutting a player like a post June one cut.

2066
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 6: If they could do that, I think that all this

2067
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 6: aj Brown nonsense would probably be put to bed pretty quickly.

2068
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 4: But you can't.

2069
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,839
Speaker 5: So the other thing is you can do those advanced trades,

2070
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 5: and you saw one with that blew up, you know,

2071
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 5: epically with the Raiders and the Ravens. Before the league

2072
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 5: year started. The teams had agreed to make a trade

2073
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 5: and all the details leaked in the press and it

2074
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 5: wasn't official until the start of the league year, and

2075
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 5: then it started the league year, Baltimore backed out of it,

2076
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 5: you know, for various reasons. So you can't do that,

2077
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 5: I would. I have a question for you guys, and

2078
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 5: I don't really understand. I don't know the answer. But

2079
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 5: the whole June one thing, like why do they do that?

2080
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 5: Like why not just if you're given a mechanism that

2081
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 5: teams can you know, sort of spread the cap hit

2082
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 5: out over you know, two years instead of one, then

2083
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 5: just let them do it. Like why do you have

2084
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 5: to wait till June first to do it? It doesn't

2085
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 5: hurt there's a reason, but it doesn't help the player,

2086
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 5: like if the player gets designated you know. And that

2087
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 5: was like they originally said, you you know, if you

2088
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 5: if you cut a player after June first, you could

2089
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 5: do that, but then that hurt the player because now

2090
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 5: he doesn't hit free agency until June first. So then

2091
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 5: they said, well, okay, you can do designated designated them

2092
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 5: with June first cut. Okay, so that way it helped it.

2093
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 5: You know, the player doesn't get hurt. Why, like, why

2094
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 5: are we doing this? Like if the if the Eagles

2095
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 5: are in fact waiting till June first and it's inevitable

2096
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 5: and they're going to make a trade, this is dumb.

2097
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 5: The NFL should change this.

2098
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 6: I think it's a bit of an outdated rule. Yeah,

2099
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 6: I think that absolutely used to be a much bigger

2100
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 6: deal h fifteen to twenty years ago, and more of

2101
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 6: these things would happen, and you get to the draft

2102
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 6: and maybe the board fell a certain way, and so

2103
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 6: you would draft players at certain positions and then the

2104
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 6: vet are in. Players that were expensive on your team

2105
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 6: maybe were more expendable after the draft, and so the

2106
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 6: post June one was a way to sort of circumvent

2107
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 6: the cap issues with all of that. And now we

2108
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 6: don't see there's always, you know, a small handful every

2109
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 6: single year, but we don't see the volume of post

2110
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 6: June one cuts the same that we did maybe twenty

2111
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 6: years ago.

2112
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 5: But it's because you can designate the guy. You don't

2113
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 5: have to do you know, you don't have to wait

2114
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 5: till June first. Anymore. I don't know why an exception

2115
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 5: isn't made for the trades. The way is for the

2116
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 5: straight releases, and you shouldn't be able to do it

2117
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 5: for every guy. And I think teams are only I mean,

2118
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 5: unless this has changed. I don't I'm not up on

2119
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 5: the all the details of the CBA, but I think

2120
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 5: you can only do it for one guy, right. You

2121
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 5: can't just designate all your releases as post June first,

2122
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 5: I don't think.

2123
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 6: I think it's two two.

2124
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, it's.

2125
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 6: Two now, but you'd ever you very rarely see a

2126
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 6: team designate two different players like it happens very rarely,

2127
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 6: but I believe the maximum is two.

2128
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2129
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 6: I don't really have a good answer for the trade. Well,

2130
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,680
Speaker 6: if I was missing something, why you can't designate a

2131
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 6: player as a trade as a post June one trade

2132
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 6: when you can do it as a cut Because I

2133
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 6: asked somebody about if you could do that and I

2134
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 6: was told that no, you can't. And I don't really

2135
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 6: understand why not. It doesn't that part of it doesn't.

2136
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 5: I think the league has done some good stuff with

2137
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:25,560
Speaker 5: like IR for example. You know it used to be

2138
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 5: if you put on IR during the season you were out,

2139
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 5: no questions asked.

2140
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 7: That's it.

2141
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 5: So now you can designate guys to return first, it

2142
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 5: was just like one guy, you know whatever. Now you

2143
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 5: know you can do it to whatever. Eight I think

2144
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 5: it's eight something like that. You can do it to

2145
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 5: multiple players. I think these things have improved rosters and

2146
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 5: improved the game. I think they're positives for you know,

2147
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 5: the everyday attrition that happens in the NFL, like you.

2148
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 2: Know, practice squad too, and the quality of depth.

2149
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 5: I mean, the practice squads are a little ridiculous, but

2150
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 5: I'd rather have sixteen five when I first when I

2151
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 5: started with Fred, now literally the practice squad was five guys. Yeah,

2152
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 5: now it's sixteen.

2153
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 6: They they did revise the post June pre June one

2154
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 6: thing I don't know, probably about twenty years ago, by

2155
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 6: allowing you to designate releases, because what was happening was

2156
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 6: is that they would cut players in June, and those

2157
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 6: players weren't getting market value contracts because everybody had already

2158
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 6: spent all their cap space.

2159
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 5: It wasn't the players right.

2160
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 6: So they revised the rule to allow you to designate it,

2161
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 6: but they did not it does not apply to trades,

2162
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 6: which I still don't. No one's given me a good

2163
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 6: answer as to what the difference is.

2164
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 5: That makes a lot of sense to me. But there's

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Speaker 5: probably a reason.

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Speaker 6: You know it's different. That's it. I'm like, tell me

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01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 6: how I don't understand.

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Speaker 4: Pete and Florida. I've been really interested in all your takes,

2169
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:53,599
Speaker 4: even you Fred, that was how you build your team

2170
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 4: like the Rams have been doing it for a while now.

2171
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 4: I understand that you probably need the quarterback before you

2172
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 4: make your decisions like they are. They seem to have

2173
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 4: decided that the draft is not as important as every

2174
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 4: other team does. It's an interesting possibility, new method of

2175
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 4: building your team for success.

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01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 6: I would push back on them saying, I'm saying that

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01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 6: they don't think the draft is important. They just don't

2178
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 6: value picks the way that other teams value picks. They

2179
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 6: their studies, their analytics, whatever, show that there's not as

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01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 6: big of a gap between the first round picks and

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01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 6: you know, the subsequent rounds, so they don't put as

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01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 6: much stock into the difference between having a first round

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01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 6: pick at the end of the first round or second

2184
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 6: round pick or a third round pick like some teams do.

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01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 6: They treat that they treat a first round pick like

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01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 6: it's a precious gem. The Rams don't think at it

2187
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 6: that they have been so I guess but they but

2188
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 6: they're very very good at drafting. On days two and three,

2189
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 6: they hit on days two and three.

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Speaker 5: I would also say, if you you know, and we're

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01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 5: just talking about this current regime, right, let's need Yeah,

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01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 5: Sean McVay, off the top of my head, what's the

2193
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 5: highest first round pick that they traded, because I think

2194
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 5: the one time that they didn't make the playoffs may

2195
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 5: have been the year that they got Verse. They got

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01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 5: Jared Verse, right, and that was like fourteen or something

2197
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 5: like that. So I think they're probably looking at it

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01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 5: as like we're picking twenty eighth to thirty two. To

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01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 5: Evan's point, is there a huge difference between twenty nine

2200
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 5: and say, you know, sixty, not as big as there

2201
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 5: is between ten and thirty? Probably right. So I think

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01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 5: they've also drafted exceptionally well, and people don't give them

2203
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 5: enough credit, I think for because they for theaction.

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01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 6: In the first round, and I feel like we just

2205
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 6: cut it off at the first round, like they there's

2206
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 6: that stat out there that they haven't made like a

2207
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 6: first round pick in like eight.

2208
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 4: Of the nine last nine out of verse, right, just

2209
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 4: that one guy.

2210
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 6: But they've also hit on Pokin Nikua. They've hit on

2211
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 6: Kobe Turner and Brandon Fisk and Cameron Kitchens and Kyron

2212
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 6: Williams and I can keep going.

2213
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 4: So they've been able.

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01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, they've been able to hit on all of these

2215
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 6: players on days two and three, and that their scouting

2216
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,560
Speaker 6: has been fantastic, and that's why they don't have to

2217
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 6: put all their stock in their first round pick.

2218
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 5: And I just do think that if they have a

2219
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 5: bad year or two coming up, I'd be very surprised

2220
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 5: if they were as cavalier about dealing off, say the

2221
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 5: eleventh pick of the draft, as opposed to twenty seven. Yeah,

2222
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 5: which is I think a lot of the first round

2223
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 5: picks that they've traded have been late first rounders, and

2224
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 5: there is a difference.

2225
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 2: YEA, how do they handle the transition from Stafford? You know,

2226
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 2: as he gets towards the end, do they use the

2227
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 2: late first round pick on him or do you know?

2228
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 5: I think Ty Simpson, you were talking about Pittsburgh earlier,

2229
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 5: I could see I don't think it's going to happen,

2230
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 5: but I could see a world where McVeigh says, I

2231
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 5: can work with this kid for a year or two, yeah,

2232
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 5: and he could replace Stafford.

2233
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,719
Speaker 6: They are more to me like a fascinating case study

2234
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 6: of how do they scout to be so good on

2235
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 6: days two and three? You know, I think a lot

2236
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 6: of their scouting is kind of unique and outside the

2237
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:05,560
Speaker 6: But they don't go to the combine, they don't do

2238
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 6: thirty visits, they don't have a lot of contact with

2239
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 6: the players. They're drafting strictly based off of the numbers

2240
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 6: and based off the film. They're not looking into like,

2241
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 6: let me get to know this guy as a human, Like,

2242
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 6: they know that's not their jam. So they look at

2243
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 6: analytics like a big reason why they drafted Pukin Nikuos

2244
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 6: because of how fast he was in game speed like

2245
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 6: player tracking data paid a huge role in drafting him.

2246
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 6: He didn't run particularly well in his forty and they

2247
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 6: didn't care because he was fast in pats and so

2248
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 6: they just prioritize that. It's interesting like how they've gone

2249
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 6: about it, because they've just been nails in the draft,

2250
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 6: even without first round.

2251
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 4: Picks Zach and Watertown rights in I'm also sick of

2252
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 4: the aj Brown stuff dealing with Howie is how I

2253
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 4: imagine other teams fan bases felt about dealing with Danny

2254
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 4: Ainge when he was the GM of the Celtics. This point,

2255
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about him unless the schefter

2256
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 4: breaking news comes in. Personally, I really keep coming back

2257
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 4: to Rabel's comments about how in order to get a

2258
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,680
Speaker 4: WR one you have to draft them. I agree they

2259
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 4: don't hit free agency and trading for them as a nightmare.

2260
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 4: I know this fan base has PTSD when it comes

2261
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 4: to trying to draft them, but you can't just give

2262
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 4: up because of that one dude from ASU. Plus, this

2263
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 4: regime is different and using a whole different scouting grading

2264
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,679
Speaker 4: system than the Belichick system. It sounds like the top

2265
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 4: guys are going to actually listen to their scouts instead

2266
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 4: of going rogue.

2267
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 2: You know, just sorry, real quick. I was looking at

2268
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 2: the Rams draft history. In twenty three, they drafted Byron

2269
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 2: Young and Kobe Turner, both in the third round. Both

2270
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 2: have gone on to play fifty one games each, and

2271
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 2: they've combined for fifty one and a half sacks the

2272
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 2: two of those third round picks. Yeah, it's just really

2273
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 2: good production. Two defensive players in the third round.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they That's what I said. They drafted exceptionally well.

2275
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 5: And I don't think they get as much credit for

2276
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 5: that because the sexy quotes are f them picks and

2277
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 5: that's what they're known for.

2278
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 2: Was for Matthew Stafford and now you have a Super

2279
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 2: Bowl the community.

2280
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 5: They also, you know, do this with I was going

2281
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 5: to say they went to the Super Bowl with Goth too,

2282
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 5: you know.

2283
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 6: The Jalen Ramsey trade, I want to say, might have

2284
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 6: been with Jared Goth.

2285
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they they made So that's the other part

2286
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 5: of this is like it's one thing to just trade

2287
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 5: away your picks, but they traded them for veteran players

2288
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,639
Speaker 5: that were established and that have worked out for them.

2289
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

2290
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 5: And then I think that they've done a good job

2291
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 5: of sort of like a guy like Ramsey. They got

2292
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 5: the best out of Ramsey, you know, when when he

2293
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 5: was kind of becoming a pain, they moved on from him. Yeah,

2294
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 5: you know, And I mean some teams. I think mcveig

2295
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 5: is a really good coach, and I think they have

2296
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 5: a good structure and a good, good culture, a lot

2297
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 5: of less stuff that we talk about with with Rabel.

2298
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 5: You know, I think that there was a huge difference

2299
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,919
Speaker 5: between the twenty five Patriots and the twenty four Patriots.

2300
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 5: I don't think that they were necessarily all that much smarter,

2301
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 5: but the way they went about it and the culture

2302
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 5: and everything, the foundation that Mike talks about all the

2303
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 5: time is apparent and all that stuff is true in LA.

2304
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 6: I think it's just huge. You know, the word that

2305
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 6: Rabel uses a lot is vision for players, like when

2306
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 6: you have a coaching staff that understands, like how this

2307
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,799
Speaker 6: player's skill set fits into the scheme and the defense

2308
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 6: and the type of way you want to play. And

2309
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 6: I think Sean McVay does a great job of it too,

2310
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 6: Like you know what a Rams wide receiver looks like,

2311
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 6: because Sean McVeigh has a type and he has a

2312
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 6: way that it fits into their their whole system. And

2313
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 6: I think the Patriots kind of got back to that

2314
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 6: last offseason. Was that that ability to say, you know,

2315
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 6: we like Roberts, we know what we're gonna do with

2316
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 6: Roberts Blaine, Like we know what we're gonna do with

2317
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 6: Carlton Davis, we know what we're gonna do with Milton Williams,

2318
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 6: And like those players having the trades that can fit

2319
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 6: perfectly into it.

2320
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 4: Let's get back to the phones. We'll go to Anthony

2321
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania. What's up, Anthony.

2322
01:45:54,600 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 18: Hey, longtime listener Watson For a while, A lot of

2323
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 18: people I feel like I have him been talking about

2324
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 18: Ramandre and his contract ending coming up. Who do you

2325
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 18: guys think in this draft could be a good replacement

2326
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 18: for him? I think, uh, Nicholas Singleton from penn State

2327
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 18: six foot two twenty, I think he'd be a good replacement.

2328
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 18: Or yeah, Jordan Vaughan out of Appleline Christen a little

2329
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 18: uh lower level talent, but six three, two thirty five,

2330
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 18: I think he could be like a good little Derek

2331
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 18: Henry replacement for Mike Grabel. Thanks guys.

2332
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 4: Okay, should the Patriots be in the future replacement of

2333
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,600
Speaker 4: Andre Stevenson market? I hope not.

2334
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think you're potentially in the draft

2335
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 2: of running back this year. I mean, I think, you know,

2336
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 2: third guy, day three kind of thing. But I find

2337
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 2: myself questioning what kind of guy do they want? Because

2338
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 2: we know what Henderson is, and he's you know, got

2339
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 2: a specific set of skills. But I feel like I'm

2340
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 2: a little bit of tracked into the stouter, fatter short

2341
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 2: yardage big guys, you know, like to complement this group,

2342
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you got Romondri can

2343
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 2: kind of do it all. Do you need like a

2344
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 2: like a short yardage kind of guy, you know somebody's Yeah.

2345
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 6: Maybe not super Me is not a he has an

2346
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 6: out at the end of the contract at the end

2347
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 6: of the year this year in his contract, but he's

2348
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 6: under contract till twenty twenty eight. Like he's not a

2349
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 6: free agent till twenty nine. So unless you're thinking that

2350
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 6: he's you know, going the wrong way, you know, they're

2351
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 6: not in like a contract crunch with him or obviously

2352
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:34,560
Speaker 6: with Henderson. But I just I feel like, yeah, you

2353
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 6: can talk about like the their third running back being

2354
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 6: a whole, but I think we could do that everywhere

2355
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,640
Speaker 6: on the roster. Like I keep hearing like cornerback is

2356
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 6: a sneaky need. It's like, yeah, like if you want

2357
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 6: to say, like the fourth corner is, like you could

2358
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,600
Speaker 6: upgrade a you know, the your fourth and fifth cornerbacks

2359
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 6: on your roster, Like I think we could probably do

2360
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 6: that with every single team, like you know, and so

2361
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 6: like we're just kind of going through all of these

2362
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 6: at this point. Like if they're gonna draft a running back.

2363
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 6: They have four six round picks. I have no if

2364
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 6: they want to throw a running back in the sixth round,

2365
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:04,560
Speaker 6: then no one's going to be going to, you know,

2366
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 6: lose any sleep over that. But I hope that they're

2367
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 6: not thinking of investing in another top one fifty pick

2368
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:10,759
Speaker 6: at that spot.

2369
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 2: Just real quick, I share this. I saw Daniel Jeremiah

2370
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 2: released as DJ DJ three point.

2371
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 7: Oh.

2372
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't go crazy for everybody's

2373
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 2: mock drafts, but it's what I said earlier. He went with,

2374
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 2: you know, Caden McDonald, defensive tackle from Ohio State. You know,

2375
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 2: it's just it's a position I don't think a lot

2376
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 2: of people are talking about care for.

2377
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Speaker 6: You know, we went with a two gapping run stuffing

2378
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 6: two down defensive linemen in the thirty first pick, and

2379
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:41,839
Speaker 6: his reasoning was something about Ohio State allowing Milton Williams

2380
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 6: to sort of eat do the dirty work.

2381
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean need somebody like somebody.

2382
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:48,719
Speaker 6: I don't know if you need him at thirty.

2383
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:51,639
Speaker 5: Everybody's going to need somebody to be a first round pick.

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01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 6: No, yeah, Malcolm Brown.

2385
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 2: Everybody's focused on the edge at that spot though, and

2386
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 2: I think that's just I think we need to be

2387
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 2: open to other positions because as I play around with

2388
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 2: mock draft, it's, I mean, you're right, like the Zion

2389
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 2: Young's of the world, and Cashius Howell was gone in

2390
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 2: this one. But I don't know, there's just not a

2391
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 2: lot of like up there. He is ye perfect, you know,

2392
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 2: it's you're considering maybe a safety.

2393
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 6: Not to pick on, Like I'm not mean to pick

2394
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 6: on DJ. I think when I look at DJ's mox,

2395
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 6: I always look at like, okay, who are the five

2396
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 6: or six guys that are in that range, because he

2397
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 6: has a pretty good feel of the board. So like

2398
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 6: maybe I don't necessarily agree with him taking McDonald's specifically,

2399
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 6: but like who you know, I think Kenyan Sidiki that

2400
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 6: chase that's pretty low from like what a you know

2401
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 6: we've heard of Sadik I take a top twenty pick,

2402
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 6: like all the way down at twenty seven.

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01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got Keller Fock down at thirtieth.

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01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 4: Okay, Uh back to the phones. Willhelms in Philam, what's up, Willem?

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01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 5: How you doing all right?

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01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 17: How how the team doing?

2407
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 4: Teams? You know most of them aren't here, but we

2408
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 4: saw the free agency here last week. Oh this team,

2409
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 4: Oh we're doing that thing.

2410
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 17: Yeah, the thing is you're next time, yes, Paul evident, dudes, Yes,

2411
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 17: they're all doing Where do I be here? Look, I

2412
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 17: don't again, I don't trust anymore. I don't trust the scouts.

2413
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 17: I'm going back to twenty twenty fourth draft class. Where's

2414
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,959
Speaker 17: Rick May's weapon? Where's his tight ends? Where's the receivers?

2415
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 17: And if Patriots have not proven to me or to

2416
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 17: the Patriots fans that they can build, you can draft

2417
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 17: or receiver. I haven't. We haven't seen it. And the

2418
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 17: jury's still out, you know what I mean. I know

2419
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:39,679
Speaker 17: I hate you dudes. You said keep trying. Yeah, well,

2420
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 17: I don't know to say about that one, you know

2421
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 17: what I mean? So I'll just leave it at death FROs.

2422
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 17: But I just don't trust this at all days, I know.

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01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 4: But like, don't you have to draw a line between

2424
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four and everything after that? Like, I know

2425
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 4: Elliott's still here, but I don't know what constraints were

2426
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:02,560
Speaker 4: put on him prior Now. Vrabel's here, and you know,

2427
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 4: Ryan Cowden's here. Was another voice in the room, and

2428
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 4: maybe it's different and twenty five wasn't that bad.

2429
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 5: Twenty five was a good draft.

2430
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

2431
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 6: I just hope that one of these days we can

2432
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 6: get a wider William. We just need to get William

2433
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 6: a wide receiver. That's your I get it, I got.

2434
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 6: I'm with you, dude, you got, we got. I just

2435
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 6: want it for you though, I want you to be happy.

2436
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 17: Right, I'm right, I'm out on it. I'm out on

2437
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 17: the A. J. Brown thing. I'm done with Dicky. I'm

2438
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 17: done with Dick. I'm not keep slaying that you gonna

2439
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 17: get him a not that's it on you know. But

2440
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 17: I'm just saying that pictures cannot draft or receive it.

2441
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 4: They can't.

2442
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:41,560
Speaker 16: They can't do it.

2443
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2444
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 17: It's like kryptonite.

2445
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 4: They haven't been able to.

2446
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 5: I think it might be time for but one of

2447
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 5: my little polls.

2448
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 4: Oh for his little pole. All right, thanks William.

2449
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 5: A lot of people in the show today. We had

2450
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 5: multiple emailers now William and philam.

2451
01:51:57,760 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 2: You know out.

2452
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 5: Oh, everybody's out. Everybody's sick of AJ Brown. Everybody's out

2453
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 5: on AJ Brown. So I'm really going to be concerned

2454
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 5: on June first, right when they make this trade, how

2455
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 5: everybody's going to jump back in. Yeah, and I'm back in.

2456
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 4: Just you know, I'm not out.

2457
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 5: I'm going to keep it. I'm going to keep a

2458
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,679
Speaker 5: little still in the amount of out.

2459
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 6: The player by any means. But it is a hard

2460
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 6: line to walk of. Like if you punt on receiver

2461
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 6: in the draft planning on getting a J. Brown, well,

2462
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 6: then you you kind you need to do everything to

2463
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 6: get a J. Brown, and that might lead to a

2464
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 6: significant not I wouldn't call it an overpay necessarily, but

2465
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 6: you might be ended up giving up a lot because

2466
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 6: you can't get out bid at that point.

2467
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 5: Let me throw this out there, at the risk of

2468
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 5: is it was it Simon that called us, At the

2469
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 5: risk of, you know, drawing the ire of Simon, Simon says,

2470
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 5: you know what, right, I gotta do what he says,

2471
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 5: a bit of a bit of a force. You're better

2472
01:52:56,400 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 5: than that, Okay, be better if they don't get AJ

2473
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 5: Brown and they don't draft someone, say in the first

2474
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 5: two rounds and this is the wide receiver cord they

2475
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 5: go into the seat. So basically you go in the

2476
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 5: same thing you had last year and subbing Dobbs for Diggs. No,

2477
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 5: I'm just saying this is the same set of receivers

2478
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 5: you had. Is that is it that bad? Like you

2479
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 5: that much worse off?

2480
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I mean, I think you'll

2481
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 2: be okay.

2482
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 4: It depends on the maturation of Drake May.

2483
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 5: Sure, I would just ad no. I know, I think

2484
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 5: they asked a lot out of him last year. I

2485
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 5: don't think that this is a great receiving corps, and

2486
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 5: I think he made them look better than they were

2487
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 5: at times, and I think the offense for the most part,

2488
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 5: was successful. Now you can come back at me with

2489
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:43,759
Speaker 5: the argument of it's going to be much more difficult

2490
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 5: this year, given the expectations, the schedule, the you know,

2491
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 5: all the things that go into it, and I wouldn't

2492
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 5: be able to argue with you. But I don't think

2493
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 5: it would be a disaster if you just said, well,

2494
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 5: Diggs was, you know, getting a little older, and we've

2495
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 5: replaced him with a younger guy, and even if we

2496
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,679
Speaker 5: don't get quite the production that we got from Digs

2497
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 5: last year, it'll be close enough. It's not that bad.

2498
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 2: I ask you questions. That's does Kyle Williams.

2499
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 5: Look No, I'm just saying the same.

2500
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not If he's the same then Okay, I'm.

2501
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 5: Just saying you have the same chorus last year and

2502
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 5: then Dobbs for digs.

2503
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 6: My fear is that that feels very twenty twenty two

2504
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,679
Speaker 6: E to me, where Parker it was it was maybe

2505
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 6: it's twenty three where it's Meyers out Juju in and

2506
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 6: then that was like kind of all they did.

2507
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 4: I like that movie.

2508
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 5: And and I'm not saying like that's obviously that was

2509
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 5: a disaster, like this ends up if place like Juju.

2510
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 6: I'm not saying with you, I'm not saying that. All

2511
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 6: I'm saying is that you had this window of opportunity

2512
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 6: with a quarterback that wasn't as good as Drake may

2513
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 6: by any means, but at least showed some signs of

2514
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 6: life in his rookie season, and then you just didn't

2515
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 6: keep the gap, your foot on the gas pedal, and

2516
01:54:56,800 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 6: you didn't keep adding significant moves to the roster. I like,

2517
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 6: if they went into the season with the way it

2518
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 6: is right now, they kind of kept its status quo

2519
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 6: for the most part on offense, and like, that's not

2520
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 6: you're not accelerating my theory.

2521
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 5: In order for my theory to be remotely accurate, I

2522
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 5: would need a much closer approximation for Dobbs to Digs

2523
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 5: than you got from Juju to Jacoby Minh.

2524
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't expect that to happen, and it

2525
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 6: will be significantly better, I'm sure with Romeo Dobbs, much

2526
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 6: younger player, like much no injury concerns like Juju had.

2527
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 6: But it just felt the same where in twenty two

2528
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 6: and twenty three, like they didn't really take a step

2529
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 6: forward around back Jones and they didn't really load up

2530
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 6: for him and absolutely go all in for him, And

2531
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 6: it's kind of the.

2532
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 2: Same the great camp. And it also just to me,

2533
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 2: like Williams is the only guy I feel like has

2534
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,920
Speaker 2: a large level of unknown left if any you know,

2535
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 2: the rest of them, you kind of know what Hollins is,

2536
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 2: You kind of know what Davis is or Douglas excuse me,

2537
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 2: you know even Booty too, but you know Ath loves Booty.

2538
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 2: We're hoping, But I think Williams is the only one

2539
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: right now to me that really has an unknown ceiling,

2540
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 2: and he might already be at it. I don't know.

2541
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 4: All right, that's going to be it for this edition

2542
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 4: of Patriots Unfiltered, but we've got more to come. This week.

2543
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 4: We've got Catch twenty two tomorrow at ten noon, the

2544
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 4: weekly Barth wellness check. How's he doing?

2545
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 5: I don't want to repeat the time and the show.

2546
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 4: What's at noon?

2547
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 6: Okay? Why it's always at show?

2548
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 4: Okay?

2549
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 5: Usually he does it at ten because we do it.

2550
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 4: Do it at noon? All right, we'll do it at noon.

2551
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 2: Patriots Draft Countdown, we'll do our first episode will be

2552
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 2: out tomorrow, Draft Countdown come tomorrow, coming tomorrow.

2553
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 4: And Forged in Foxborough coming later today, so can't wait

2554
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 4: for that. We will be back on Thursday. We'll talk

2555
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 4: to you then.

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01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,880
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