WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Double Booked Dating Fail

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<v Speaker 1>The second day. Sometimes with a bad first date, there's

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<v Speaker 1>one moment that you can look back on and say

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<v Speaker 1>that was it, That was where I missed everything up? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>For me, each date has about fourteen of those. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it when I did the full re enactment of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Garden State? Was that it's you? Or was it

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<v Speaker 1>when my zipper got caught in the sushi conveyor belt? How?

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't? Why were you too much? Well? One

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners says that she knows that she made

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<v Speaker 1>a huge mistake in one moment and she's regretting it today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why she's asking for our help. Her name's Jessica. Jessica,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show. Hey guys, Jica. Before you let

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<v Speaker 1>us know, I just want to say, sometimes it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to only have one giant bad thing go wrong, because

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<v Speaker 1>at least you can when wrong. Yeah. Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>a sushi conveyor belt incident? There was no sushi involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Good tragedy avoided. What happened with this guy what's his name? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I went out with Vince? Okay, and how do you

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<v Speaker 1>know Vince? How'd you guys meet? It was online so

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of you know, like a first sort

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<v Speaker 1>of blind date online and it was good. It was

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was nice. We had a really good

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<v Speaker 1>vibe and all right, well we'll play a song, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Oh we should hear more about it. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean were you were you shocked that it was

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<v Speaker 1>going that well? I totally was. I I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had kind of low expectations, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just it was humble and cool and fun

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<v Speaker 1>and we're having a good time. The problem is, so

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<v Speaker 1>because I have these low expectations, I kind of sort

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<v Speaker 1>of accidentally double booked myself that night. Oh like with

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<v Speaker 1>another day or with a party or something. No, it

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<v Speaker 1>was another date. Oh girl, So I like options, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>why too in the same night. I just figured we'd

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<v Speaker 1>we'd eat and you're like, okay, thanks, that was fine

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<v Speaker 1>by and then that would be it because that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of been my experience. Was Vince aware that you had

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<v Speaker 1>two dates going on that night? He was not. He

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<v Speaker 1>was nut And you know, looking back, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>the moment like I should have canceled because I lost

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<v Speaker 1>track of time and when I realized I was like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes away from the second date, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shoot, so I had to wrap things up really fast.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh, we're done, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, I gotta go. And I then mote

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<v Speaker 1>him some money for the like half a bill, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't want it to be like thank good bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you actually leave before the bill came well,

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<v Speaker 1>like it had just gotten there. Yeah, but like you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't let him like walk you back to your car

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. No, I had to run. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, just as a guy having to sit there

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<v Speaker 1>and watch your date like bolt on you yeah, before

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<v Speaker 1>you were even finished, like totally paying the bill and

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<v Speaker 1>then they vendo you, which is feels it like business

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<v Speaker 1>trains insactioning, right. Yeah. And I think, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he could tell that something was going on because

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<v Speaker 1>he was asking me, are you okay? Like did I

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<v Speaker 1>did I do something? Or oh you know, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to tell no, no no, no, it's not you,

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<v Speaker 1>You're great, this is good. I just becoming personal came up.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta I gotta run. I feel like I would

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<v Speaker 1>almost prefer a girl to sneak out on me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than like collect herself frantically be like Okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go. By, No, you just reschedule. You should

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<v Speaker 1>have been honest and you said the look, I have

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<v Speaker 1>something going on. I want to give you my full attention.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like a job interview. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>the person interviewing and being like, Okay, just tell me

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself real quick. I gotta go. I gotta go. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on your profile picture and your interest, I had

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<v Speaker 1>very very low expectations. I never ever thought this was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go like this. But yeah, sorry, By. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, I'm guessing the second date went terribly because

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<v Speaker 1>we're not calling the second date for a second date update,

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<v Speaker 1>we're calling the first dude. Oh yeah, what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>guy number two? Yeah? Guy number two was a no show? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you, I bet you. I would feel so

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<v Speaker 1>foolish at that point, Oh I did. I waited an

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<v Speaker 1>hour at the bar for this guy, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a bigots full. And so after my hour

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<v Speaker 1>of waiting, I texted Vince and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>so I cleared that up. If you're still out, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to hang out some more, kind of try to

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<v Speaker 1>smooth it over. And he texted me back l oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh hell yeah, and that's all you guys have talked since. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried texting him one other time and he didn't respond,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was just like, Okay, I'm gonna leave it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to picture him, but I'm feeling really

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<v Speaker 1>really bad about it, and I you know, I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that I could kind of come back from.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If you tell him the truth, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you sound bad, like, hey, I'm only calling you

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<v Speaker 1>back because this guy stood me up, I think. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can explain it as like you made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>He's dating, like he gets it, like it's hard, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to make decisions. It always feels like the more

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<v Speaker 1>you date, the more options you'll have or something I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to date to leave me for another day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody would. But do we have to tell him that part? No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why. Okay, Well, I think we're gonna go in

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<v Speaker 1>planning to not tell him. Yes, But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if it slips out, then it slips out. You do

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<v Speaker 1>this every once in a while, somebody wants what they

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<v Speaker 1>can't have. Yeah, and if he thinks that she's wanted

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<v Speaker 1>by a lot of other people. That's not necessarily we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to play some games. I don't know. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>should say it wasn't just one extra date. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty extra dance and the other guys could match

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<v Speaker 1>up to Vince. They were all rich and famous, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Vince was better than all of them. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play a song, we'll come back, we'll call Vince, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll try and get your second date update. Okay, Jessica,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, hold on. You know the saying

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<v Speaker 1>is nice guys finished last. Yeah, but that's not always true.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes times they don't even get to finish dinner before

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<v Speaker 1>the date ducks out on you for a hotter guy out.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry for the low glow there, Jessica, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>what she did to a great dude that she was

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<v Speaker 1>with named Vince. She had to leave early to go

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<v Speaker 1>meet up with another guy, and what happened other guy

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<v Speaker 1>no showed. Yeah, anything is Jeffrey. If you liked Vince Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have booked his date second. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, initial like, you wouldn't have put him first.

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<v Speaker 1>She went in with those low expectations. So, Jessica, I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to know we are going to try our

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<v Speaker 1>very best here, but even though we're enjoying ourselves, we

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<v Speaker 1>have another phone call book with a possibly better hotter

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<v Speaker 1>listener in ten minutes, so we're gonna try and make

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<v Speaker 1>this quick. Okay, all right, well really really please if

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<v Speaker 1>we can not tell him about the other date, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so why did you leave? Then? I mean we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to tell him something family emergency, right like

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<v Speaker 1>it made it a family emergency and we just met.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have to know those details. Yeah, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>what's the detail grandpa's sick? Like she said she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to know the details. He doesn't need to do

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<v Speaker 1>what if he asks like, oh my god, family emergency?

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<v Speaker 1>Is everyone? Okay? What are we saying? Your business? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about my family? Yeah, all right, all right, get

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive and vague aggressive Jessica. Alright, we're ready. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>dial Vince's phone number, try and get your second day update.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go, Hello, Hey is this Vince? This is him?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's this Evans? My name is jeff from a morning

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<v Speaker 1>radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. What's up? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>There was awkward silence. I freaked out. Just say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all here, what's going on. Great, it's a segment, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>it is an awkward segment that we do. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>a second date Update. We're calling on behalf of one

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners who went out on a date with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name's Jessica. Oh yeah, Jessica. Okay, she really liked

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<v Speaker 1>you really. Yeah, I know it doesn't seem like she

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<v Speaker 1>liked you because she left the date in such a hurry.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just one of the things that she does

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<v Speaker 1>when she really likes the guy us, she gets nervous

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<v Speaker 1>and panics and leaves. It's a problem. Oh so, so

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<v Speaker 1>she told you guys what happened. Yeah, she gave us

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<v Speaker 1>a little recap of it, and and she actually felt

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<v Speaker 1>bad about it. Yeah, I mean, she she's old. She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to have to leave, but she didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>have a choice family emergency. Um okay, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of doubt that's really the case. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>shee you later, she said, just to let you know

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<v Speaker 1>that she was like still interested. Yeah, yeah, yeah she did.

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<v Speaker 1>She did texting me later. She wanted to like meet

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<v Speaker 1>back up right, And we heard you texted back kind

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<v Speaker 1>of snarky, just lol. Yeah, I mean I said that

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<v Speaker 1>because she really seemed like she had better things to

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<v Speaker 1>do and she had somewhere else more important to be. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we were having a great time, we were eating, and

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<v Speaker 1>she pretty much ended it in the middle of us

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<v Speaker 1>eating and left. But that's not really fair to her

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<v Speaker 1>because it could have been something that was totally out

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<v Speaker 1>of her control. Oh really, So, I mean, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her. So what did she say was out

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<v Speaker 1>of her control? She know, she made a commitment that

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<v Speaker 1>she had to follow through on. Yeah, okay, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds really general and vague, but yeah, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with that? Yeah, Vagan aggressive, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean it's it's kind of hard to believe

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<v Speaker 1>considering the way that it sort of ended. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I just feel like so that you think

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<v Speaker 1>she's lying. Yeah, well, I mean this is the thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'll be completely honest with you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've had some trust issues from the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything when we were talking seemed pretty good, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that everything sounded, and she seemed pretty straightforward, but my

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<v Speaker 1>trust issues kind of came into play and I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to sort of see like where her head was at.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually had one of my closest friends who

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, he's basically a model when he is

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<v Speaker 1>a model and looks, you know, really good looking dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he actually matched with her, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>asked him, like, you know, why don't you schedule sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like a date for the same day. I know

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<v Speaker 1>this is crazy, and you know, it's like putting it

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<v Speaker 1>all out there, but this is kind of why I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is really disappointing. Hold on, you already knew

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<v Speaker 1>about the other date that she had scheduled. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>he reached out and she already had a date scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>with me. Kid, dude, you set a trap for her. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that, to be honest, she would be

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<v Speaker 1>that thirsty to hop on it. Come on, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had a model that matched with you and wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go out the same night, you're not telling me that

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't book her. Still, I actually would have just

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<v Speaker 1>canceled the other date and gone out with the model.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye are you two dates? You don't want to? Like? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because then it kind of just felt like a pity date,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Yeah, I don't like this. That's low, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that you're missing an opportunity, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you could give her some grace here, like you may

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<v Speaker 1>actually find somebody who you really connect with. And like,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I put the test out there was

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<v Speaker 1>because she put on her profile. She's tired of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>she's looking for something really meaningful, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>we were aligning really well. I did, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>why I was like before I even how serious are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are you just another girl who puts it on

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<v Speaker 1>her profile but really just wants to you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like maybe there is some truth to what she's

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<v Speaker 1>saying there, because she clearly wants to connect with you,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's actually on the other line listening this entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't help. Trust is shoes. She wants to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you right now. Man, Wait, she's listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Yeah, don't you trust her now? She's right there, Jessica, Hi, awkward? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it going, Jessica? Not great. I feel really bad

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<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't figure out like what I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>do in that moment and make a better choice. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel really bad for you and those trust is

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<v Speaker 1>shoes and the mind games and that's wow, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much on both sides. Like I think you

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<v Speaker 1>both just hang up before we even get into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just too much. I'm not embarrassed at all when

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<v Speaker 1>I did. If anything, I feel like it gave me

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<v Speaker 1>clarity on sort of what you're where you stand, on

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<v Speaker 1>what you're looking for. And I mean, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>I get why you're you're feeling bad, but like at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, like you could have easily

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<v Speaker 1>just not gone on that date, or you could have

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<v Speaker 1>canceled it, whatever you chose to do that that's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You were set up. I know that's a little embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just like you don't have to waste I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that you can gauge in one date like

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<v Speaker 1>what someone's all about and if they're really serious, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I owed you nothing, And I feel bad that I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't make the choice because I don't know. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>i'd been more decisive. But I can be decisive right

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<v Speaker 1>now and tell you that absolutely we don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>bother with it because that's my games. I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 1>You're already cutting it off now. I can totally appreciate that,

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<v Speaker 1>And to be honest, if it wasn't for the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you texted me back after you were stood up

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<v Speaker 1>asking to hang out again like that same night, I

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<v Speaker 1>totally would have met up for a second date, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just feel little about it, But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you text me back right away just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of showed, like how it felt I was into you.

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<v Speaker 1>It says that I was into you. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be the one not showing up. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be the no show because that sucks

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<v Speaker 1>that I know what that feels like. So for whoever

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<v Speaker 1>the other guy was, I didn't want to be that person.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he didn't show up, I was relieved and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, cool, maybe Vince is still down. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I can fix this. You guys are both making it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a valid point on Jessica's part. I can see

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<v Speaker 1>where she's coming from, and she's probably obviously like, like

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<v Speaker 1>she said, not interested, which is totally fine. I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any hard feelings toward her. If I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica in the street and we said hello and talk great,

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<v Speaker 1>you just sound a little aggressive, like I should just

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<v Speaker 1>go out and like let your guards down a little bit. Jessica,

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<v Speaker 1>are you not going to apologize to Vince for ditching

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<v Speaker 1>out in the middle of the date? Well, the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the date, paid for half the dinner, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was the end of it. It's not like she'd left

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, like he should have ologize for Hernce

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<v Speaker 1>did apologize. He was like, I'm sorry if I set

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<v Speaker 1>you up for the trap, but you were the one

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<v Speaker 1>that scheduled another date right after me. Oh, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a real enough bolz. He none at all. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of what I did. Was this male model

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<v Speaker 1>friend up to anyway? I haven't heard of Jessica apologize once.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I need to apologize. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not lie to him. I told him I needed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't owe him anything. Yeah, and it's not your

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<v Speaker 1>it's not your fault, Jessica that his friend was hotter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't about that friend being a hotter you guys, kitty.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like we're not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get another date out of this for anybody, But did

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<v Speaker 1>we at least learn an important life lesson from it all? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Online dating is a waste of time. Oh close, this

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<v Speaker 1>show is a waste of time, but you know, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for playing broken Jeffrey in the morning.