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Speaker 1: welcome in to the Monday Morning Podcast. All sorts of

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Speaker 1: things to talk about. This is one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: times of the year. We get to that mid March

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Speaker 1: where March Madness is right around the corner, NFL free

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Speaker 1: agency is right around the corner, the NFL combines wrapping up.

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Speaker 1: I love this time of the year. Let's talk Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: He's going to make a decision here in the next

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours. Listen. I've said this for years. I

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Speaker 1: root for captivating. I want more interesting stories. I spent

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Speaker 1: every Sunday for eleven years an ESPN watching every Patriot snap,

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Speaker 1: and as great as they were, as dynastic as they were,

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Speaker 1: I got Patriot fatigue. I got Belichick Brady fatigue. One

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I'm rooting for Aaron Rodgers to leave.

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Speaker 1: It's just more interesting. Denver's got better players, and let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, Aaron Rodgers knows it. According to Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: a very sharp, dependable reporter, Aaron Rodgers is torn between

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Speaker 1: and arguably the second worst division in football, He's going

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Speaker 1: to get therefore, a home field advantage, playoff run, and

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Speaker 1: has better players. He's not going to Denver because the

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Speaker 1: division's easier. Mahomes Herbert Derek Carr twice a year. He's

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Speaker 1: not going there because he has a community and a

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Speaker 1: staff he knows well. He knows Hackett, Nathaniel Hackett, and

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Speaker 1: everybody else well. He's torn because he knows Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: If Davante Adams got injured, doesn't have a legitimate number

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Speaker 1: all the time. Look at the Rams last year. Robert

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Speaker 1: you going to put your stock in a roster that's

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Speaker 1: top heavy with little star depth. Aaron knows Denver and Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's got a much better defense, It's much more talented,

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Speaker 1: and much more depth offensively. Aaron knows it. They've got

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Speaker 1: He's only torn for one reason because Denver's got better players. Also,

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Speaker 1: what's more fun? Aaron leaving is more fun. Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: because you're the Packer fans the last eight years, when

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Speaker 1: charge and Caliparry was there. I was sitting rip behind Caliparry,

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Speaker 1: who had come to see him, and Emmanuel Quickly and

423
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: Randall and all those Kentucky guys, and you know, he says,

424
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: this is the way Tyres he plays. I was talking,

425
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: will Bay just get him out? And he opened get

426
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: him out in space when he has to be the

427
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: point guard, he will. They've been doing that with they

428
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: when they take Harden now, they make sure they keep

429
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Speaker 1: Maxie on the floor. To Bias Harris, he's just a

430
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: fun loving kid who loves to play the game with

431
00:24:53,640 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: no pretensions at all. Yeah, let me pivot to Jayleen Hurt.

432
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: So I've been highly critical of Tua in Miami, and

433
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: my takeaway is he's not a playmaker with his feet,

434
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: and he's not a playmaker with his arm. He can't

435
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: do anything off script. So if you're a little smaller

436
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: than ideal size, you've got to give me something special.

437
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: I defend Jalen Hurts saying a little small. I don't

438
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: think he's a great thrower, but he is absolutely too

439
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: productive as a playmaker not to give another year. That's

440
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: my interpretation. But in Philadelphia, what are they saying about Well,

441
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: you're probably right when you look at it logically, really,

442
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: because I don't think the Eagles believed that. I think

443
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: the Eagles, if they had a chance to make a deal.

444
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has been there, white Whale. They didn't draft them,

445
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: they were sorry didn't draft them. They've loved them ever since.

446
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be available, but they've

447
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: been also interested in de Shawn Watson. I think that

448
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: they do want to upgrade the position. I don't think

449
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: he's got They have total belief in Hurts, and I

450
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: don't think he played to that level where you go

451
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: you have total belief in him. Now, if they don't

452
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: do anything else, he's obviously going to get one more

453
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: year to do it. Which is interesting because in the

454
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: draft they have three first round picks. Whether they saved

455
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Speaker 1: one of those picks for next year, when the quarterback

456
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: draft will be a little better than it is this year,

457
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: is the question. So I don't believe they will draft

458
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. I do believe that Hurts will will get

459
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: one chance to do it. But it's funny that you

460
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Speaker 1: bring up Hurts because when they drafted him, I thought

461
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: it was the biggest organizational failure I had seen in

462
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: Philadelphia sports because of the Wentz thing just crashed and

463
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: burned on him. And one of the lynch pins was

464
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: that they drafted Hurts and Wentz really did not take

465
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: it well, and so they didn't figure that would happen,

466
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: and the Wentz thing just just blew up. And so

467
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: when it blew up, they had the biggest salary cap

468
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: hit in the history of football at thirty eight million.

469
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: That's to me, not a success. I always thought the

470
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: Eagles were well run, and then over the course of

471
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: a year, you hear the Doug Peterson story, the owner meddling,

472
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, and we heard some of that with Chip Kelly,

473
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: but hey, he's a college coach and Chips an odd bird,

474
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: and I like Chip, He's an odd bird, So okay,

475
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: that's that's not that's Chip. And then Doug Peterson, who's

476
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: kind of liked I mean most of my NFL guys

477
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: they kind of liked Doug. I mean, is he a

478
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: great coach? He kind of likable guy. And then you

479
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: hear stories and again there's meddling, and it's like, is

480
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: this a shit show? Like do they know what they're

481
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: do they know what they're doing? So I wanted you

482
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: to give me a Philadelphia you, how is ownership in

483
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: the front office for you? Because I when Nick Sirianni

484
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: held his press conference, initially I thought it was embarrassing.

485
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what to say, and we had

486
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: we had a blast with it. But uh, it's really

487
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: an interesting dynamic here with this U with Jeffrey Laurie,

488
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: I believe likes to get involved, and at first it

489
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: didn't seem like he did. The theory is that Hurts

490
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: was his pick that that Roseman really wasn't on board

491
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: taking hearts in that position. But Laurie's one of these

492
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: guys that will watch college football on Saturdays and think

493
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: that he knows something that he really doesn't know. And

494
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 1: I think he's had a lot of input because of that. Now,

495
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Roseman is strategic in that he knows he's the trusted

496
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: voice and Laurie believes in him. So his brilliance is

497
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: to convince Lourie that he really knows what he's doing,

498
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: and so Laurie has eminent trust in him. His drafts

499
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: have been horrendous the last three years, and everybody is

500
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: nervous here that with three number one picks in that

501
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: I call it the danger zone because it's the teens

502
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: going towards twenty where Roseman has made a lot of mistakes,

503
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: So it'll be it'll be interesting to see what they

504
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: do here. I'm a draft nick, I'm a dork. I

505
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: love it. I love college football. Philadelphia is not a

506
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: big college football town. I grew up in Seattle. The

507
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: Huskies won a national title. I was a USC fan.

508
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: I worked in Tampa, so I followed the SEC and

509
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of these stadiums. I like it.

510
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with it. I like it.

511
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: It's a bad draft. I have a lot of NFL

512
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: executives and scouts. I know everybody wants to trade down.

513
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: It's just a bunch of B players. I think the

514
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: kid out of Michigan the pass rushers, probably your safest bet.

515
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: But he's not t J. Watt. I mean, there is

516
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: no Fletcher Cox in this draft. There is no Aaron Donald,

517
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: there is no Chase Young on the defensive front. And

518
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: I kind of look at where the Eagles are poised

519
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: and I think to myself as I watched them last year,

520
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, they got into the playoffs, hurts probably in

521
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: Nick Serriani, probably ten fifteen percent improve. The division is

522
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: still weak, and I'm like, can they get three starters?

523
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you have an elite corner. You kind of

524
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: have to rebuild a little bit. Your line play. It's old,

525
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: like where in not a great draft, though you have

526
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Speaker 1: a nice supply of picks, Like where would you say, Okay,

527
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: here's three picks go in this direction. Well, I don't

528
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: know where they're gonna go, but they're they're the very

529
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: line oriented so and you're right, I don't know who's

530
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna They need a pass rusher badly, and uh, you know,

531
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Speaker 1: Derek Barnett is probably not gonna be back here. Brandon

532
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Graham come back back from terrible injury, and he's old.

533
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: So they desperately need a pass rusher, and they'll probably

534
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna take who's ever left on the board, whether that's

535
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Speaker 1: a Jabo h that's Carlottis Perdue or the kid from

536
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: Florida State that they liked at the Senior Bowl. So

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Speaker 1: I believe that will be their first round pick. They

538
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: also need a corner. They need a linebacker more than

539
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: any other team in the league, and they just won't

540
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: pull the trigger on a linebacker in that spot, so

541
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect it. They'll go linebacker if they keep

542
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: three picks, which I doubt they would probably go. Two

543
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: of them will be defensive, but they'll also be intrigued

544
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: to take a wide receiver in that position if they

545
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: do that. Howie Roseman admits that Jalen Reagor was a failure,

546
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure he's ready to admit that. So

547
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: I know your guests is as good as mine. But

548
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: they need defensive players and a lot of people here

549
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: want them to take three defensive players with those three picks,

550
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's going to happen. I think

551
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: they'll trade one of those picks. I always like Doug Peterson,

552
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 1: but when you're doing local stuff, you see the warts.

553
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'm flying at thirty thousand feet. So I

554
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: thought he was likable. I thought he was a player's coach.

555
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: I thought he was a guy, you know, over the course.

556
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: It's almost like Joe Torrey as a baseball manager. I

557
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: don't know if he's great with x's nose. He was

558
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: good at managing people and egos and the press, and

559
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: I thought Doug was pretty good at that. Am I

560
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: right or wrong? What were restraints and logbilities? For a while,

561
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: But then I think that people saw that he really

562
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: wasn't that a stude of a coach, And you know,

563
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: you watch him during the games and the adjustments that

564
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: didn't come, and the fundamental errors that the mistakes the Eagles.

565
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: It's it's hard to knock a coach that won a

566
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I get it, but you know, I just

567
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: think the Eagles that year caught lightning in a bottle.

568
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: With all due respected Doug. It went downhill from that

569
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: point on, and I didn't think he was a very

570
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: smart coach, to be honest with you. So I don't

571
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: know what Jacksonville is gonna get. But there wasn't really

572
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: much disappointment when when he was when he decided not

573
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: to do it anymore. They obviously loved him because he

574
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, but they don't love him enough.

575
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: They don't love him like they loved Nick Foles. Nick

576
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: Foles can can do no wrong for the history of

577
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: his life in Philadelphia because of that run he had

578
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl as the Turndown. You know, he

579
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: was kind of a mediocre quarterback most of the time.

580
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: You know what it is. Philadelphia pays attention. So Peterson

581
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: is fine in Jacksonville. He's not fine in Philadelphia. Andy

582
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: Reid is somebody that lasted a long time in Philadelphia.

583
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: Bella check would last a long time. Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan.

584
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: If you pay attention, and Philly pays attention to everything

585
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: and dissects everything. Doug's got a little country club to him. Jacksonville,

586
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: they don't pay up attention. You're you're probably right, and

587
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: you're right about see. I always said this like when

588
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: we criticize McNab, people couldn't understand it because you know,

589
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: and in retrospect, he's probably underrated because he's the best

590
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: quarterback in franchise history. But we saw every snap and

591
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: we saw you know, everything else. They pay attention here

592
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: to every snap, at every call, every play call, things

593
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: like that. And yeah, he was coming up short and

594
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson kind of the same way. He was

595
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: just coming up short. There were some ridiculous game plans

596
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: that he didn't seem to adjust at halftime when he

597
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: could have made adjustments. And so that's the thing about Philadelphia.

598
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: People outside of Philadelphia don't realize that we pay attention

599
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: to every d and every snap, right. Yeah, So you

600
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: know it's people get hurt by the perception, the national perception.

601
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: But then you know, I try to tell people they're

602
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: not like you. They're not following every snap. It is

603
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: really important to you this particular sport, this particular game.

604
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: And I get it because a lot of the reasons

605
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: that you mentioned before. We're in a Northeast corridor at

606
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: sports is so important in everyday lives of people here

607
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: where it wouldn't be somewhere else. Ye I've said this before,

608
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: is there are days I deeply missed doing local radio,

609
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: big market Philly, Boston, the intensity take I do a podcast,

610
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: I do a simulcast. It's hard to take calls on

611
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: a simulcast because it's a TV show, where whereas in

612
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: radio it's it's the lifeblood of the show. You get

613
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: great passion and arguments. If I said to you in

614
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: Philadelphia sports radio, which which to me is the most

615
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: intense sports radio market I've ever heard, I think it's

616
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: surpassed Boston. If I said two things that always get

617
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: phone calls, what are they in Philly? Simmons and herbs.

618
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: Now the Simmons things run out, but we ran with

619
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: that on a daily basis. There's always a guy. It's funny.

620
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: In my career, it started way back. By the way

621
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: Artists show is also simulcast on TV, so the TV

622
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: on NBC Sports Philadelphia regional network that has the Sixers

623
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: games on. But when I first started, there was always

624
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: a compelling guy that you could talk about all the time.

625
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: It started with Randall cunning in, It went to Allen Iverson,

626
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: it went to McNabb. Lynn Dross was in there for

627
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: a little bit and Simmons just grabbed everybody's attention, not

628
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: only for his way he played, because there were some

629
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: moments where everybody know he's a breath taking player when

630
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: he wants to be. But then it shifts to the

631
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: negative where it wouldn't take a shot, and everybody though

632
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Speaker 1: it was ridiculous and lost their patients. But it's Hurts

633
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: every day when the Eagles are playing, it's Hurts isn't

634
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: good enough? Okay, then he had it is a good game,

635
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: Hurts is good enough, but then it comes back to

636
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 1: Hurts isn't good enough? And it ended. The season ended

637
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: with people being ambivalent about Hurts. So that's a topic

638
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: that will It will still go on as they start

639
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: the season. Philadelphia has always had this reputation as brutal, harsh, opinions,

640
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: not informed. And I tell people this all the time.

641
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: Because the weather is poor in the East, people actually

642
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: watch more sports in the East. They aren't informed. I mean,

643
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: in California today it's sixty nine. That's not a good

644
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: day the beaches. It's not that people in the LA

645
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: don't watch sports, but the minute a team's average they bail.

646
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: Because of social options. In Philadelphia, they don't bail, they bitch,

647
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: they watch, they complain, and so you know, when I

648
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: would listen to East Coast radio, I was struck by

649
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: the intensity and at first it was jarring to me

650
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: as a West Coast guy. I'm like, God, these people

651
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: need to kind of get a life. And I thought, well,

652
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: I live here. I'm indoors all the time too. You're

653
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: either in your car or you're indoors. Um if you do,

654
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: you think Philadelphia fans have gotten a bad rap through

655
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: the total bad rap. And you know, those stereotypes are

656
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: they're just extended by people who don't aren't here every

657
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: day like you know. For I think that we had

658
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: a little thing with with Andy Reid. You're Andy guy,

659
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: and then at the time Andy was starting to wane here.

660
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: So I think that Philadephia fans can't be conned. So

661
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: when a team is good, like they see this team,

662
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: they're on board. When they're not, they're bitching about why

663
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: they're not good. And so somebody is a fall guy

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00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: for that, whether it's the manager, whether it's the head coach,

665
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: whether it's the ownership. The way things are run. So

666
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: right now the cycle is flyers way down Phillies. We

667
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: don't know anything about Eels Hopeful Sixers. Reality, this is

668
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: a team that people here recognize is good enough to win,

669
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Speaker 1: So you know it's heightened. But you're right about what.

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Mike, I wonder if you've noticed this, and

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Speaker 1: I think you probably have because you know you're a

684
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Speaker 1: curious guy and I think I'm a curious guy. Is

685
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: that our careers sports radio isn't one thing. It involves

686
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: just like coaches, teams, sports, I mean you and I

687
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: now analytics, drive baseball. I think it's hurt the sport.

688
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: There's not enough base runners, there's not enough action. I

689
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: don't mind three pointers in the NBA, So I'm cool

690
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: with the analytics, and I do think playoff basketball gets

691
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: very situational. The midrange game absolutely comes back in the playoffs.

692
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: Right you're trying to draw a whistle. You know, you're

693
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: trying to you know, the mid range works. But one

694
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: of the things I've noticed between legalized sports gambling and

695
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: I would say sort of the business acumen of Roger

696
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Goodell and the owners. My show is a syndicated show,

697
00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: is about seventy percent NFL baseball analytic inactivity and the

698
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: inability to market stars. College basketball now is a tarmac,

699
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: It's a one and done. Who knows who plays for anybody.

700
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you could ask a Philly fan about Villanova's

701
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: starting five. They probably give you two guys. College football

702
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: is hit and miss, depending on the region. But I

703
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: have noticed over the last seven to eight years I

704
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: do more NFL than I've ever done, And I wonder

705
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Speaker 1: ay of you noticed it be isn't the same for you?

706
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: It has always been that way. The Eagles have taken

707
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: up I don't know, I would think seventy five percent

708
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: of the interest if you had a pie start, it's

709
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: always Eagles, Eagles, Eagles, unless a team comes along that

710
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: can possibly win something. So yeah, you know, when when

711
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: autumn comes, obviously the Eagles will will take over and

712
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: the NFL will take over. This is a football plamp

713
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: more than anything. And baseball, you know, it's Bryce Harper

714
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: has really helped because he's a star that people like

715
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: to follow. But they're not good enough and everybody knows that.

716
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 1: People still come to the ballpark, but we don't really

717
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: talk that much about the Phillies unless there's some kind

718
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: of a compelling issue, unless they show they're good enough

719
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: to win. So the summer's sports UG Radio here. It's tough.

720
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: It's tough for to do a show in the summer

721
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: that than anytime because the baseball just doesn't kick up

722
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: the interest. And you know, the Flyers have their base,

723
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: but we don't really and we carry their games and

724
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: this we haven't. I don't know if we've taken five

725
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: calls on the Flyers in the last two months. So yeah,

726
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you. This it's the NFL takes over,

727
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: the Eels take over here. It's a football town. And

728
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: one of the guys I forgot to mention it was

729
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: that compelling interest that we could talk about every day

730
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: was Terrell Owens. So when he was here, he came in,

731
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: he gave like a meteor and just flashed through the

732
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: atmosphere and he's doing pushing up some on his driveway.

733
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: Now what better scenario as a sports LALG radio host.

734
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: Can you have a wide receiver who leaves this team,

735
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: gives them the finger and does sit ups in his

736
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: driveway and we're there with I've cameras and we're talking

737
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: about it every day. You know, you talked about throw

738
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: a baseball thing at you. I did triple a play

739
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: by a play of college. I thought I was gonna

740
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: be a baseball announcer. That was my kind of I

741
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: don't know if it was my dream, but it was what.

742
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: I got a job at a college doing triple a

743
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: baseball for an inning, so it was like, Okay, it's

744
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: my first break, and I did some local TV years later.

745
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: One of the things that's been remarkable to me is

746
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: how baseball has let football trample them. Now. The NBA

747
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: has always been player driven since we were kids. I mean,

748
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: I can remember I can literally name the Sixers starting

749
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: lineup with Billy Cunningham coaching and Caldwell Jones, I mean,

750
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: Steve Mix and George McGinnis. It was always a players league.

751
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: That was always player Yes, yeah, that's okay. No, And

752
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: those were great teams. And I mean I can go,

753
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: I can go to the Dave being Bob Lanier Pistons.

754
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: It's always been a players league. I mean I grew

755
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: up with the Spencer Haywood and the Sonics and Bill

756
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Walton and Dave towards It and Sydney Wicks to the Blazers.

757
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: I can't do that with a lot of football and

758
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: baseball teams years ago. But what's remarkable about baseball um

759
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: indifference kills a sport, not negative public. It's like us.

760
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: People can hate us, that's fine if you're if you're

761
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: indifferent to Mike msn Ellie, that you're in trouble. Yes.

762
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: And what I find with baseball during all this, you know, negotiations,

763
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: nobody cares, I mean seamheads, but are you taking calls

764
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: on it? No? And we're not a lot of people

765
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: don't understand that. The whole dynamic of players, as the

766
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: union and owners and what they want everything. But you're

767
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: right they you know, what happened in ninety four. Apparently

768
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: it's not a lesson to owners that, you know, they

769
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: lost the interests in the support for a lot of

770
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: years until that the peed home run race came in

771
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: and they seem to be oblivious to that. Now. I

772
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: don't know how it's going to affect it. I know

773
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: it's a nice evening at the ballpark for kids and families,

774
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: and they go to the games as as sort of

775
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: a recreational thing. But you're right the interest when this

776
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: ends whenever it ends, and if they miss an ordinate

777
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: amount of games people are out, then it may take them,

778
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, several years to get back in there. And

779
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: you're right about not marketing stars. I mean, you know,

780
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: for for a lot of years the best player in

781
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: the game was Mike Trout. He seems just uninterested in

782
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: marketing the game. And NBA players can't wait the market

783
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: the game because they know that's where the action is.

784
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: That's what brings fans in and baseball has done a

785
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: poor job. I don't know what they could do about it.

786
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: But because baseball players are baseball players, they're just superstitious

787
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: people that when they bring too much attention to themselves

788
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: that they think it's gonna be a jinx and will

789
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: go over thirty five, So they're they're not that willing

790
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: to participate. Baseball is like one of these unforgiving sports

791
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: when when you think you got a master to it

792
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: bites your head off, just like golf. So I don't

793
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: even I don't know how to market baseball. I really

794
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: don't because if the players don't have that pizzazz and

795
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: aren't willing to get involved that way, how do you

796
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: do it? Example for me is I really watch a

797
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: ton of NFL and college football, and then when it ends,

798
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: I take about two weeks off and then I go

799
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: heavy into NBA. So like every day I'll worked out

800
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: about four or four thirty, which is seven thirty year time,

801
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: I'll watch the first half of the Sixers or the Nets.

802
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'll watch multiple NBA games, and I know

803
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: that I don't watch as much as a Philadelphia fan.

804
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: So you know, if you want to break down bullpens

805
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: or benches, I can always lose to a local fan

806
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: or a talk show host, right, I take my view

807
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: as sort of listen. I watched Philadelphia and beads, Baby Shack, Hardens,

808
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: Kobe and a veteran coach that formulas one a lot

809
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: of championships. That's you know, that's Tony Parker and Duncan

810
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: and Popovich. That is you know, by the way, that

811
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: is if you go, that's Kobe Shack and at the time,

812
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: phil like I do realistically look at the Sixers and think, yeah,

813
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think Milwaukee's defense as nearly

814
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: as good as it was a year ago. I don't

815
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: think Miami has really a great shop maker. With three

816
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: minutes left, you have two Chicago. I don't buy Chicago's

817
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: the classic. We throw a bunch of b guys together,

818
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: they play their butts off, but they have a total

819
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: ceiling in the playoff. In situational basketball, I do think

820
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is going to win the East. I really realistically do,

821
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: do you. I just watched the Milwaukee tonight and the

822
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: thing that they're deep, and they're deeper than the Sixers.

823
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: So I really think that's going to be a tough

824
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: series that I think that Sixers can win the series.

825
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: But I just worry that for people here that Milwaukee

826
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: just has a little more depth for them, and you

827
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: know they can go to different guys and get input

828
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: from and you know, the Sixers are getting the Big

829
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: Three has turned into Hard and Mbad and Maxie and Tobias.

830
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: Harris has been a little lost, so and surprise, Harris

831
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: isn't as good as Middleton, and uh, you know the

832
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: janis obviously he's a complete player. Drew Holliday is a

833
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: good player. But they've been getting all these contributions from

834
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: guys off the bench, like this war has come from

835
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: nowhere to play well for them. So I think it

836
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: would be a really good series right now, if you

837
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: asked me to, I would lean them Markee slightly until

838
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: I see more of the Sixers. And you know, they

839
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: have a big game against the Bulls on Monday, so

840
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: we'll see more about that. But you know, backtracking to

841
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Speaker 1: what you said about we pay attention. I remember one

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Speaker 1: of the classic examples of Philadelphia mentality is when Kobe

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Speaker 1: Bryant came here for the All Star Game. And obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kobe grew up like a couple of blocks

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Speaker 1: away from where I am right now, and so he

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Speaker 1: became a Philadelphia con after the fact. But when he

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Speaker 1: was first playing with the Lakers, he disassociated himself completely

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Speaker 1: with Philadelphia. He called himself an LA guy. Wasn't a

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Speaker 1: feeling guy. He's wearing Dodger hats around when they were

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Speaker 1: playing a series of governm cut Phillies hard down the

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Speaker 1: whole bit. And you know, all that is competitive juices

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Speaker 1: for Kobe. But people took it here like they they

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Speaker 1: wrapped each other around, like with the arms, like how

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Speaker 1: dare he said? How dare he turned his back on us?

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Speaker 1: And so they booed him at the All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: And if you remember that, that caused a national disgrace.

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Speaker 1: You know, how could Philadelphia book Kobe Bryant. He's a

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia But they didn't know the backstory of it. And

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Speaker 1: so and that's what I mean by by the people

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Speaker 1: here paying attention to live the littlest things. And they

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Speaker 1: held that against Kobe even though he's a star player.

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Speaker 1: And he came back here for the All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: While other people looked at it like what is disgrace,

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Speaker 1: we looked at it like, yeah, they'll ever do that

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Speaker 1: to us again. Mike miss and Nelli ninety seven five,

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Speaker 1: the fanatic, one of the great talk show hosts in

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Speaker 1: the country. My friend, it's great seeing you. You're a

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Speaker 1: busy guy. I always appreciate you doing this, and you

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Speaker 1: know I have great admiration and respect for how hard

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Speaker 1: you work. And I love when we go back and

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Speaker 1: forth and you know your ship and I love having

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Speaker 1: you on the same here, Colin. It's it's always the

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Speaker 1: pleasure to join you good and it's good to see it.

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Speaker 1: And we haven't seen each other in a while, So

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Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing, brother, all right, Thanks mine,

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Speaker 1: I take care the volume