1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: If Ray Lewis doesn't get in, I will be I'll 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: this fall off my rocker. I'm always right. I'm always right. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna say you always doubt I was gonna 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: say four. So we split the difference. Book La Welcome 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: back into the lounge after a one week layoff while 6 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: Garrett was on vacation. Vacation, is that what we call it? 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: That's what we call it. You were I saw you 8 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: with sunglasses on. You look a little, You're kind of peeling. 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: You are peeling on your forehead. You know it's a vacation. 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: It's not vacation, just because I was out there in 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: the elements. You know, football is played. It's the only 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: sport in America that's played in the heat of the 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: summer and the depths of the cold winter. And I'm 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: somebody that braves the elements, no matter what the circumstances are. 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: And I was out there a full sunny sum grinding 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: away in Orlando, trying to bring great content to Ravens 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: fans all across the country. And you know what, I 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: even got across the world. And if he even got 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: appealing forehead to show for it, meanwhile, I was grinding 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: grinding grinder, Mobile Alabama. You think that there ain't no 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: disney World in Mobile, Alabama, I'll tell you that much. 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: All right, they'll put up theme parks in Mobile, Alabama 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: where there's grinders like me working, there might not be 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: a disney World and Mobile. But I didn't even see 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: disney World in Orlando either. I was too busy just 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: grinding away. No, I didn't get a chance to go. 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: What why didn't you go? Because gruden grinders out of 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: here all day every day. Anyway, we're glad to be 29 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: back together, I guess somewhat. And uh, we're gonna talk 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: about a number of subjects on today's episode, including the 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Obviously, ray Lewis you heard of that guy? 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get in the Hall of Fame. 33 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: I think he will. I think you will too. So 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about that and discuss Senior 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Bowl and Pro Bowl some takeaways. I'll talk about some 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: players that I liked down in Mobile. So yeah, exciting stuff. 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: And Garrett, let me kick it off with the big 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, all right, super Bowl fifty two? Yeah, 39 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: a who do you think is gonna win? Could be? 40 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: Who do you want to win. All right, Well, here's 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: here's where I stand. Um. I think it's pretty easy 42 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: obviously to say that we're rooting for the Eagles, Right, 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: that's an easy you know, everyone that are Rais fans 44 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: hates some Patriots rights. Yeah, I guess the easy answer. 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: That's the easy answer. But I think that there's a 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: little more nuanced that one. Okay, So I still am 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: rooting for the Eagles. I think that the Patriots are 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: going to win. I agree, agree, I agree with so. 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: But the only reason that I would any part of 50 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: me would be rooting for the Patriots is the fact 51 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: that we've had this ongoing debate for the last two years, 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: which is that there's two sets of rex guys who 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: can win it, guys who can't. And so this is 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: another opportunity for me to just continue to prove my theory. 55 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Let's put it on the record, to prove the theory. Now, 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: maybe Nick Foles is the guy who can win. You 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: gotta get it right now in writing is Nick Foles? 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: Because I say, this whole theory that there's some guys 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: you can win it and some can't, it's just bogus, right, 60 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: You put the any you put most quarterbacks. I let's 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: say any quarterback. You put a bunch of quarterbacks in 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: the right situation, they can win the Super Bowl. Do 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: you think before Trent Dilfer want it, you would have said, 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Trent Dilfer, that's the super Bowl winning quarterback. Well, 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: well you just kind of proved my theory just in 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: your scripture right there. You said most quarterbacks. So you're 67 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: agreeing that not every quarterback in the n NFL Super 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Bowl that so you're agreeing with my point. And you 69 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: know what, the third string quarterback on the Cleveland the 70 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, I don't think it's gonna ever win a 71 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So there you go. There's guys who win. 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: On on the record, Nick Foles, is he Is he 73 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: a guy that can win the Super Bowl? I want 74 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: it on the record, Yeah, I'd say no, I think 75 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is really I think it's Tom Brady 76 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: and the Patriots are going to win this game on Sunday. 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Now makes sense. He's a guy who can't do it. 78 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: That that being said, I would love to see the 79 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Eagles get it done, and for more reasons then it's 80 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: just fun. Everybody gets the Patriots because obviously it's just 81 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: fun to see them fail. Right, But there's a major, 82 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: major Ravens connection with the Eagles, and that's that's why 83 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I personally, Okay, yes, that is one reason that I'm 84 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: rooting for the Eagles is the you know Tory. I'd 85 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: like to see him win another one. Corey Graham to 86 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: journe again his laugh, just to hear Timmy journey and 87 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: laugh again. Yeah, just for that. Well, if for fans 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: who didn't listen to the Timmy during in podcast last year, 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: that was an Alzheimer particularly because I forgot to record 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: for the first half of it, and then when Brian 91 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: had to back right, had to go back and tell 92 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: his knock knock jokes over again to Timmy, and Timmy 93 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: had to pretend like he hadn't heard him and he 94 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: was laughing anyway. It was great. It was gonna say, 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: it's a classic lounge story. Um. But here's the thing, right, 96 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: so if the Patriots win another one, right, like, it's 97 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: kind of like whatever, Right, everyone knows they're really really 98 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: between five and six exactly. They're far and away the 99 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: best team. It's not like you can like go to 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: a Patriots fan and be like a you guys suck. 101 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: They'd be like, what are you talking about? Right? We've 102 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: got five rings on, you know, on this hand. So 103 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter to me that much if they 104 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: win another one. It's kind of always fun to um 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: also like the franchise that can't ever win, to just 106 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: keep like them wallowing, you know, see, I just hate 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: that well because you're Cleveland exactly right. So that's why 108 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: that guy, the Calves, just winning like just sucks some 109 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: of the fun out of making fun of Cleveland, you know. 110 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: So it's kind of fun that the Eagles have never 111 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: won one because you'd always be like, I don't I 112 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: don't play that way. I don't play that way. I 113 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 1: think it's even more incentives root for that team because 114 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: those fans, who are great fans, have been rooting for 115 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: that team for the retire lives. Now they get a 116 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: chance to celebrate. And I'm all for that. I'm all 117 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: for that. Here's who do you let me ask you this? 118 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: Who deserves it more? A Philly fan or a Boston 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: exact I claim been tortured, for sure, but I kind 120 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: of enjoy that torturing, being that I grew up in 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: Cecil County, Maryland, halfway between Ravens and Eagles territory. I 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: had a bunch of those obnoxious Eagles friends, and I 123 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: would love to see them continue to suffer as you 124 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: want all your friends to do. Obviously, Um, but I 125 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: would kind of Also, here's one thing in favor of 126 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: rooting for the Eagles is I would like to I 127 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: would like to sit back and enjoy the Twitter and 128 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: social media smack talk between Eagles and Patriots fans, because 129 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: there may not be any more obnoxious social media presence 130 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: fan than than Patriots fans. And and then on the 131 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: flip side, you have Eagles fans who are certainly not 132 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: a quiet bunch, and to see they be able to 133 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: see to see them you want to get one over 134 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: on obnoxious Twitter Patriots fans. That would kind of give 135 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: you some enjoyment. Yeah, I think that would be good. Um. 136 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: And then like I said, I mean, there is the 137 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Ravens connections. There's a players Tories, one of my all 138 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: time favorite Ravens tellerb Corey Graham, Tim Journe again. Um. 139 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: And then there's the front office too. There's a lot 140 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: of guy who started the careers and worked the ways 141 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: of Joe Douglas um Ian Cuttingham. And there's some younger 142 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: guys there too who um you know, have also worked here. 143 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: So there's a huge Ravens Eagles connection which would be 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: neat to see. And um, I know a lot of 145 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: those guys are still have still have a lot of 146 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: friends in this building, and I know that there's people 147 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: here that are definitely reading for them. So I know 148 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: one thing my uncle I have, you know, like I said, 149 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: I grew up kind of halfway hates the Eagles. There's 150 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: a lot of like Ravens fans who loathe the Eagles. 151 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: So I think that I know they're in a tough 152 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: predating as we all are. We're all, I think, in 153 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: a tough spot on this one a little bit. But 154 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to through Philly. Yeah, I'm with you. 155 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: So the other big part of Super Bowl weekend is 156 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: the fact that there's a guy there. It's a Hall 157 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: of fam announcement coming up on Saturday evening. Yeah, ray 158 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Lewis is a first has a chance to be a 159 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer? Is he a slam duck 160 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: jam at home baby boomshaka, yeah, ray Lewis. If Ray 161 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: Lewis doesn't get in I will be I'll just fall 162 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: off my rocker. I'll fall off my rocker. He uh 163 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: to me. The production, the longevity, two time defensive m 164 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: v P, two time Super Bowl champion, including one time 165 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: MVP with third team Typer Bowler. All he's done leadership, Uh, 166 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: you know for the ravens on off the field of 167 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: the community work that he's done. I mean, come on, 168 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: I think the conversation on ray should take about six 169 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: seconds in that room. I mean they go through and 170 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: they have some battles about whether this guy should get 171 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: in and this this guy, and they you know, I 172 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: think that group is a really good job because it's 173 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: not an easy task. You have basically a lot of 174 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: players who have Hall of Fame worthy resumes, and you've 175 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: got to sort through all of that, and you've got 176 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: to sort through how the game has changed over time. 177 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's an easy job. So I 178 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: think those guys do a really, really, really good job. 179 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: But I think the conversation on Ray Lewis should be 180 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: all right, ray Lewis, everyone in favor, say I ay, 181 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: and then all right, next guy. Don't even waste any 182 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: time discussing this. Do they release like the results of 183 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: the vote. They don't say who voted, you know, who 184 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: said and all that, But do they release like how 185 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: many dissenting votes there were? I don't believe, not who 186 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: they came from, but how many. I don't think so, 187 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: because that would be interesting to see. That would be 188 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: interesting to see if he was If he's unanimus, well 189 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: there's you know. The kind of the caveat this year 190 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: is that Brian Erlacker retired at the same time, so 191 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to be a first ballot Hall 192 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: of Famer, and so there are some in the Brian 193 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Urlacker camp. I know that this was an argument kind 194 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: of all the way back early in the careers of 195 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: who would you rather have had this one? In the 196 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: middle school for sure with the kids, Yeah to me. 197 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: And what kind of brought this back to the forefront 198 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: recently was Kevin Y, a center for the Jets for 199 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: a long time, UH said that he would put in 200 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: er Laker over Lewis if you're talking about ranking pecking 201 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: order there, which just stunned a lot of people, including myself. 202 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, R Laka was really good and I, like 203 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: I said, back in their prime, I remember having this 204 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: debate between the two players, but even Erlacker himself said 205 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: ray Lewis is the greatest of all time, that he's better. 206 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: So you got it from the horse's mouth right there. 207 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe he's just trying to be nice, 208 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: but it didn't seem like it from his quote. Um 209 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: and Mawai's argument that Erlacker was better was that he 210 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: was a more downhill, aggressive, physical player than Lewis. Right, 211 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: how many tackles did ray Lewis make? A million? I know, 212 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean production is production. I don't care if you 213 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: bounced off aligneman before you made the tackle. If ray Lewis, 214 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: he said, I was like, you know, Erlacher would take 215 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: on the block or shed it and make the tackle, 216 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: whereas ray Lewis was a step around him. Guy, Okay, whatever, right? 217 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: Maybe and maybe that helped ray Lewis played four or 218 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: five more years longer than what Erlacker did. Um, maybe 219 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: it was, you know, he ball he went bald later 220 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: in his career. I don't know what I was. You know, 221 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: the hair plugs. Maybe actually got them earlier. But but anyway, 222 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: to me, don't get bonus points for smacking an offensive linement. 223 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: You get what counts is the production, and ray Lewis 224 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: had it, and he had it for longer. Yeah, so 225 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: again I think you should go in. And also, this 226 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: is a little plug we're actually gonna be We're gonna 227 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: have a team in Minneapolis over Super Bowl weekend to 228 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: be with ray Lewis over the course of the weekend 229 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: to get some really awesome video and content of hopefully 230 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: him getting the knock of the door and finding out 231 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: that he's a Hall of Famer for the first time. 232 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: So that's something I know that we're really looking forward to. 233 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: And you know, it just would be another notch of 234 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: the resume of of Ozzy Newsom obviously, who doesn't need 235 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: he's already got a gold Jack himself. So this would 236 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: be the second Raven to get the fame, you know, 237 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: original drafted player at the first obviously being Jonathan Ogten, 238 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: who's also a first ballot Hall of Famer, who's discussion 239 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: to talk about four seconds before deciding to put in in. 240 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: So um, pretty impressive of your first two draft picks, 241 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: both Hall of Famers, no doubtors. So anyway, as always, 242 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: we love to hear from you guys with your questions. 243 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: So we have a question here, um, and so you 244 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: can send us your questions every single week. Uh. The 245 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: email is the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 246 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: You can write in your questions, you can do an 247 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: audio question to send it in whatever you prefer. And 248 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: we've got a question from our guy here, Neil from Portland. Right, Ryan, 249 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Is he the guy the poster? Yeah? I think Neil 250 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: is the guy who got the poster. Yeah, alright, so 251 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: he says, So the season ends with with not a 252 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: lot of fanfare this year, which is good. I think 253 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: not a lot of people saying fire, so and so 254 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: are blaming Joe this time. I don't know if the 255 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: Neil is living under a rock out there Portland, what's 256 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: going on? But he's obviously not on social media. Yeah. 257 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: So Neil says, we didn't get there this year, but 258 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: we we look like we were ready to take a 259 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: shot next year. So one of my questions, first, which 260 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: position to you is more valuable to take with our 261 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: first pick or two another offensive prospect wide receiver, tight end, 262 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: or go and make that defense sick and scary with 263 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: a good linebacker or nickel package corner. And second, with 264 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: all the talk of finding a replacement for Joe Cool 265 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: down the road. How about we go find Josh Woodrum 266 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: and give him Mallett's job. That would make me happy. Cool. Well, 267 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: thanks Steel, So to to go through it, I'm all 268 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: in on the offense this year, and I would you know, 269 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: like last year, first four picks all defense, so they've 270 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: made the investments on the defensive side of the ball 271 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: over and then you add to the fact that they 272 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: had signed Tony Jefferson and they had resigned Brandon Williams, 273 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: so the resources have been spending the defense for sure. 274 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: So this year, go ahead, chips all into the center 275 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: of the table on the offense in the first round, 276 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: the second round. I would love to see that. I 277 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: don't think that, like, you know, the notion that let's 278 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: just make the defense great, Well, that's where the Ravens 279 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: trying to do last year. And the defense was great 280 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: at times last season. Wasn't great at the end of 281 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: the season in certain games down stretch, but for the 282 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: most part it had a really good season. But I 283 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: want offense. I think you need to have more playmakers 284 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. And if I 285 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: had to pick, if I could take any guy in 286 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: the draft, with number sixteen right now, it would probably 287 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: be calviumn early. Yeah, there's no there's zero doubt that 288 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: your need, your bigger need lies on offense. I mean, 289 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: right now, your wide receiver situation is pretty bare. Bons 290 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: what Alex Collins is your best offensive playmaker. You don't 291 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: really have receiving tight end because benjam Watson is gonna 292 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: probably retire or be understrict your free agent either one. Um, 293 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: you have to give players to Joe. I mean, who's 294 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: he throwing to next year? So to me, I think 295 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: offense definitely is the key. With that said, you know, 296 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: if the right player lands there, like if if Calin 297 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: Ridley's gone, there's not really receiving tight end. Uh, that 298 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: probably makes sense. At sixteen running back Sae Kwon Barkley 299 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: is going to be gone. Do you take the guy's 300 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: kid from l s U. That's the only really other 301 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: running back that you might take in the middle of 302 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: the first channel. Let's say he's gone or they don't 303 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: value him that high as the sixteenth thick for running back. 304 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: All right, I guess they're going tackle or defense, you know, 305 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean so like and that's any and shocked me. 306 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: A first round they went defense because I will say 307 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: I think inside linebacker was a bigger problem area than 308 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: people probably realized last year, both in terms of the 309 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: run defense not being great up to Ravens standards. I 310 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: think that you could potentially fix that. UM So maybe 311 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: you get an inside linebacker or you get a the 312 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: lineman that can give you more pressure inside. Like I said, obviously, 313 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I think if the offense weapon is there, you take him. 314 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: But wouldn't shock me? Wouldn't I never? He never shocks me. 315 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about that on mail back 316 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: this week, like if one of those you know, if 317 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: an Alabama guys there or something like that, and Sean Evans. 318 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: You know, I keep going back to Roquan Smith. He's 319 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: the inside linebacker from Georgia. He's a Buck's War winner, 320 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: probably gone, probably gone by sixteen. But if he's somebody 321 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: that were there. He was a transcendent player in Georgia 322 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: and was a big reason that they were in the 323 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: National Championship. So you know, there's that could happen to UM. 324 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: So anyway, it's got but you have to get if 325 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: it's not the first round, you have to go offensive 326 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: heavy in the in the second third, at fourth or whatever, like, 327 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: I think you have to do that. Moving on to 328 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. In the backup quarterback spot, Josh Woodrum, 329 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: I think is still on the roster. He was at 330 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: the end of last season. I'm not sure if he 331 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: signed a he just signed a future reserves Okay, yeah, 332 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: so wood drums on the team. He will get a shot, 333 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: I think to be the backup. Um, so he'll have 334 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: that opportunity. But I expect the Ravens to draft somebody 335 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: and then it will be a competition between that guy 336 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: and Josh Woodrum. I would expect that the draft pick 337 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: would probably win that competition. Um, but hey, he knows, 338 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, Woodrum cald ball out. He'll get more opportunities. 339 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: And I like Josh He's had a great story. I 340 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: think he's a good guy, good player. So he'll get 341 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,479 Speaker 1: another shot. But I don't think you go into the 342 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: season sayings are backup. Yeah, yeah, you can't do that, yeah, Um, 343 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: all right, and so let's move it forward to the 344 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. So obviously you had a chance to see 345 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: some of these guys we're talking about prospects, and so 346 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm Baker Mayfield was a highlight of the week. Um, 347 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen was there? He why I am in quarterback? 348 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna put you on the spot. Alright, alright, 349 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: So you can take one guy from the Senior Bowl. 350 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: You want to say the number sixteen or just in general. Uh, 351 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: it's an interesting question if you say number six let's 352 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 1: go both. Okay, if you can take one guy from 353 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, number sixteen here you're gonna take. If 354 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: I can take one guy from the Senior Bowl at 355 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: number sixteen, I am probably gonna take. I guess the 356 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: tackle from Pittsburgh, Brian O'Neill, who kayper mock to to 357 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens. I mean that might be a little high. Really. 358 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I think there's a pass rusher from Texas l Passo, 359 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: this Davenport guy who could be you know what, I'm 360 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: gonna change my picks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, class of me. 361 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that kid because he could be a 362 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: pretty nasty pass rusher. Um, but the Ravens don't really 363 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: need like an outside linebacker pass an edge rusher. Right, 364 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: But if you're talking about the most talented guy there 365 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: at a somewhat position of need that was he's probably it. 366 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: You know. The ones that jumped to mind. Or do 367 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: you take a quarterback? Yeah, do you take Baker mayfielders? 368 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: Do you take Josh Allen? And there is even a 369 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: rumor floated out there about the Ravens taking Josh Allen 370 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: if he's there. What was some radio station in Denver. 371 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who first broke that, but yeah, there 372 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: was the report last week. Something weird. I just don't 373 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: see that happening. I do not see that happening at all. 374 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: The Ravens don't need the fact it was definitely here 375 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: for at least I think at least two more years. Right, 376 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: So even if you drafted somebody in the first round 377 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: this year, he ain't playing for probably two more years. 378 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: So he starts to play in his third season and 379 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: you're using a first round pick on him, which I 380 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: first not happening. Well, first of all, I don't necessarily 381 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: think that that's a bad philosophy. I think that like, 382 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: there's always this pressure around teams now if you drop 383 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: the guy high to go out there and play, and 384 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: there's just evidence of guys that have waited to play 385 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: and have been better served. For Carson Palmer being one 386 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers being a few years. Carson Palmer waited 387 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: a full year, didn't even play Aaron Rodgers waiting like 388 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: three or four? Yes, because here four. Yeah, I'm looking 389 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: this up right now? Is that long? Yeah? He sat 390 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: on the bench forever and that was like the big 391 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: Now you're right three years. Yeah, I'm always right. I'm 392 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: always right. I was gonna say always, I was gonna 393 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: say two four. So we split the difference. Yeah, so 394 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: you always doubt, and as usual, I come out, you 395 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: look up the facts. I'm right. So thank you for 396 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: proving that. Where were you saying, I'm saying they're not. 397 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: I'll here's here's the thing, and we're gonna look at 398 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: the back at this and say I'm right. Okay, I 399 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: think I have a spot on evaluation of Josh Allen, 400 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: like the best way to sum up Josh Allen. So 401 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a terrible evaluation, but for a 402 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: great evaluation. Okay, he is a he's like a wobbly cannon. 403 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: I was gonna say a loose cannon, but that had 404 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: different connotations. Yeah, he's a wobbly cannon. Right, So like 405 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: you have the cannon on the side of your pirate ship, right, 406 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: but you fired it too many times, and the screws 407 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: are a little loose. So this thing, you're you, he 408 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: has a freaking cannon for an arm. I mean, some 409 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: of throws he makes are unreal and and you they 410 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: make you say, wow, this guy is gonna be a 411 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: high first round pick. But but oftentimes, man, that things 412 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: isling around and he's an accuracy it's just not there, right, 413 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: But he does just enough and he makes enough wow 414 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: throws to to entice NFL evaluators, who, of course believe 415 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: that they can fix anybody. You know, like, hey, man, 416 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: we can get this guy in the building, and we 417 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: if we fix him, we're gonna get We're gonna have 418 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the league. There's gonna be people 419 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: that are having those conversations for sure about him, and 420 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: they may be right, you know. I mean, if you 421 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: tighten up those screws, this dude might be legit. Um. 422 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: So he's an interesting prospect, very interesting right now, far 423 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: too inaccurate, all right. So the Raves always find guys 424 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: in the senior bowling. You can go through the long 425 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: history of guys that they've kind of discovered or they 426 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: had played in the Senior Bowl. They end up drafting. 427 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: Brandon Williams is certainly someone that comes to mind. So 428 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: who are guys middle, second, third, fourth round that you 429 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: like that you think could end up here in Baltimore. Alright. 430 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: So the wide receiver, the best wide receiver at the game, 431 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: uh and in practice really not the game was Oklahoma 432 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: State's James Washington. Okay, So this guy is Blitznikof Award winner, 433 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: which is the award, the award that goes to the 434 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: best receiver in the country. Yes, Now, just because you 435 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: win that award doesn't mean you're gonna be a high pick. 436 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: I think last year's d D Westbrook won it and 437 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: he went in the third. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't 438 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna be right. Washington has had three years 439 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: over a thousand yards. He's put up like four thousand 440 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: some yards over his past three Okay, so this is 441 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: the part you're not gonna win. I love this man, 442 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: so on the roster before they actually knew the way 443 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: in six two oh five, right, five eleven, he's under 444 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: six flint. But he's he's like in the costas said 445 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: is he's built like a running back. To me, he's 446 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: kind of like an Kuon Bolden that's when he's built 447 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: like he's not gonna beat you with like killer speed. 448 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: Although he was a playmaker in college. I mean the 449 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: guy have his twenty yards per catch. I mean in 450 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: college he's this like deep ball, take the shot, explosive guy. 451 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: He can make contested catches. He's just like strong. He's 452 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: like built well right um and and at the Senior Bowl, 453 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: I think he was really focused on his route running, 454 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: showing he could run a bunch of rounds, which you 455 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: did well. You gotta open first, press coverage, off coverage. 456 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: He got to open a fride different ways in practice, 457 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: so that was very impressed. He's smooth, competitive. I like him. 458 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: I think he's probably more of a second round guy. 459 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: That's where I would look for the Ravens to take him. 460 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: If they couldn't get account Ridley, let's say in the 461 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: first round, then I think James Washington could be a 462 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: target for sure in the second round if he lasted 463 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: that long to the middle. UM. So, yeah, I I 464 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: really like him a lot. There were a ton of 465 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: like first round guys there. If we're talking more second 466 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: round prospects, I think it would not surprise me if 467 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: they took a tight end that played in the Senior 468 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: Bowl or was supposed to play, because they're gonna need 469 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: a pass catching tight end, and there's a bunch of 470 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: them this year. I think there's a bunch of different options. Right. 471 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: So there's this kid from South Dakota State, Dallas gooder 472 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: go YouTube highlight this catch this guy had, I think 473 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: it was last year. I mean Odell Beckham junior jealous 474 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: of this, yeah, uh so, unfortunately he got injured on 475 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: the first day practice, early in practice, so we didn't 476 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: get to see him. A lot of them, but everybody 477 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: says he's legit, and the highlights kind of proving no 478 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: YouTube highlight which is which is a key? Which is 479 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: the key? Right? And the guy looks good on YouTube 480 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: highlights that his buddy made in his dorm room. But 481 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: then he's gonna be the next ode, which everybody looks 482 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: good on the YouTube as um. And then there's there's 483 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: some other interesting kids. There's the Troy Fumgali from Wisconsin. 484 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: I think is going to be a third probably a 485 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: third round, maybe fourth round. Aspect nine fingers pretty cool, 486 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: but it might have the best hands despite having one 487 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: half finger his index finger on his left hand, which 488 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: was you know at birth there's a complication, had to 489 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: have that amputated half his index figure. Was like, that's 490 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: incredible that he can become one of the best past 491 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: catching tight ends. Like if you're talking like the best 492 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: hands in the league, he might get it right. I mean, 493 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible. It's a great story. Um, you know, 494 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: didn't put up monster production, but very consistent, solid at 495 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: pretty much a run heavy school. Wisconsin likes to run 496 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: the ball. UM, so I think good size. I think 497 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: he could be a really good prospect for them. And 498 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: then there's this kid, Ian Thomas, who's a local story 499 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: Baltimore kid from Indiana, probably looking like another third fourth 500 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: round guy. Seems to be there's a little sweet spot 501 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: their third fourth round for tight ends. UM and Ian Thomas, 502 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: another kid with an interesting story. Grew up on you know, 503 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: poor in Baltimore Rough area, Baltimore's parents his mom I 504 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: think died when he was eight, and then his dad 505 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: died when he was nine. Uh, he's like one of 506 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: nine kids, was raised by his older siblings. UM, so 507 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: crazy story. Kid's been through a lot. Uh. You look 508 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: at him on the field and you're like, wow, this 509 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: is built for the NFL. I mean he's got a 510 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: pertimical body, looks good come off the bus, good coming 511 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: off the bus. And the last guy I'll mention it 512 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: tight end is Penn states Mike Gisicky. Yeah, I know 513 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: I probably didn't pronounce that correctly. Sorry, Sorry Mike and 514 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: all the Nitney Lion fans out there. Um Now, this 515 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: kid kind of the opposite of been Thomas. When he 516 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: came off and he stepped on the feud, I was like, like, 517 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: he's when you look at his legs, he's kind of 518 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: got thinner legs, Like he's just not very developed in 519 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: his lower body. Right, he's got chicken legs. I wouldn't 520 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: go that far. That might be a little insulting chicken legs, 521 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: Like you, I've got chicken legs. But but he doesn't 522 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: have my right, he doesn't have my caps. But here's 523 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: the crazy thing. He's like he's like some of those 524 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: basketball players that you see that have like just like 525 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: twigs for legs, but they jump out in the gym. 526 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: This is this kid, I mean, he is vertical, is 527 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: going to be crazy at the combat. I guarantee when 528 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: you're in the combine, this kid is going to be 529 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: a story for his vertical he he came depends state 530 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: on a he could have come on a. He was 531 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: first offered a volleyball scholarship before he got offered a 532 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: football scholarship. It was a volleyball scholarship because he's like 533 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: some beast volleyball player. He can just he's just crazy. 534 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: So he's super athletic. Um, he's a mismatch guy down 535 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: the field, and I really liked him in in practice 536 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: he was just dusty people. I like. I mean, I'm 537 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: in a high state fantas we talked about before. So 538 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: I've watched plenty of Big Ten football and I've watched 539 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: this kid, and I've said, this is somebody that is 540 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: intriguing to me, Like it looks like a natural athlete, 541 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: which is given me, which what the Ravens kind of 542 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: need as at tight end. Dennis Pitt was that guy 543 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: who's just a natural athlete, pass catcher, who's who's a 544 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: safety net for Joe and all that stuff move the chances, 545 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: and so they need that kind of guy. And based 546 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: on what you're saying, this guy kind of fits the Billah. 547 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: A couple of the guys I want to talk about 548 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: real quick. Uh, Another wide receiver DeShawn Hamilton's remember that 549 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: name from Penn State. Kid came out of nowhere, didn't 550 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: really do the whole lot of Penn State. Went to 551 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: the East West trying game. Balled out there, gotta invite 552 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Came to the Senior Bowl. Ball down 553 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: in practice. I mean, he was one of the best 554 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: practice performers over the three days. Didn't do a whole 555 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: lot in the game. That's good. So so I think 556 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: the Shawn Hamilton is a third fourth round pick. Uh, 557 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: is an interesting kid, really big recruit who just like 558 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: for a varriot of reasons didn't pan out. There. Another kid, 559 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: Luke Falk, we're talking about backup quarterbacks, Luke Falk, Washington State. 560 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: You're looking for somebody in the fourth round. All these 561 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: guys apparently our fourth round picks and the Ravens can 562 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: get seven guys in the fourth years ago and they 563 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: had four picks in the fourth round and be great. Yeah. 564 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: So Luke Falk from Washington State put up a ton 565 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 1: of yards there. Uh, you know, more of a end 566 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: offense past heavy offense. Dude was a walk on who 567 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: became a starter in his second year, and all he 568 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: did was reformed, accurate, not a huge arm, but he 569 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: can make of the throws that you're going to ask 570 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: him to make. One of the most accurate quarterbacks, and 571 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: I think accuracy for a quarterback in the NFL is 572 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: the most important thing. Tom Brady doesn't have the biggest arm, right, 573 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: but he can put it. He knows where to put 574 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: that ball, right, So you get yack, you put it, 575 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: you lead the receiver. Luke Falk I think, and apparently 576 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots are higher on this kid. Shocker, yeah, right, 577 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 1: let's scoople up before the Patriots get him. I think 578 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: Luke Foxx the guy all right, nice, So now I'm 579 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: not wrong. In the Senior Bowl kids last year is 580 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: Son Reddick. I was all over yeah, and he ended 581 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: up going top twenty teeth overall to the Arizon car 582 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: the other one too that you like, just Cooper Cup 583 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: and he ended We're going to the Rams. And he 584 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: came off the board right before the Ravens had the 585 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: chance to draft in the third round. And who knows 586 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: what would happen if he were on the board there 587 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: for the Ravens in the third round. I bet they 588 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: would take him that they certainly could have exactly Um, 589 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: so yeah, I give you some credit there, so we'll 590 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: remember those names and we'll come back in fact check 591 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: you here. And a few wants all right now to 592 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Mr my forehead is appealing because he 593 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: got too much out there grinding. Um what I'll say. 594 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's you know, obviously, the Pro Bowl is 595 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: really just a reward for these players in terms of 596 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: it's a relaxed atmosphere. They call it practice, but practice 597 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: is a loose term. I mean they're on their shorts 598 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: and and and a T shirt, playing catch with their kids, practice, 599 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 1: playing hot potato and throwing the ball around with their 600 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: kids during practice. So but it's just a it's a 601 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: great atmosphere. The guys are in an awesome mood. And 602 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: one thing, the biggest takeaway that I had after spending 603 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: a week there is that Terrell Sugs still has good 604 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: football left in him and he still wants to play. 605 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: And I think that he's I mean, he's already said 606 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: he's playing to come back this year. To me, that's 607 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: a no brainer. And I think that a lot of 608 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: people kind of look at it because he's going into 609 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: the last year was contract that this is probably it 610 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: probably come back for one more year. I don't necessarily 611 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: know that it's a guarantee of it's one and done 612 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: for him. I mean maybe it is, like maybe he 613 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: says that's enough, I've I want to move on. But 614 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: like he A really interesting clip that we had was 615 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: when we had a miked up during that practice and 616 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: he was talking to La, Danny and Thomason on the 617 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: sideline about retirement and LT was just kind of given 618 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: him his perspective of when you know it's time, and 619 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: says was talking about He's like, I still have good 620 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: football left. I still love playing And he that's his element, 621 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: Like that's his stage, that's where he feels at home, 622 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: and we can see it. He's been in this building 623 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: for really the last year, you know, more than I've 624 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: ever seen him in the off season, and I think 625 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: that he just loves playing it right now. And I 626 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: don't think that he is ready to give it up. 627 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: So that was something that kind of struck me, and 628 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: I've noticed that throughout the week. Yeah, I think Terrell 629 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: Suggs when he's a guy that when he leaves, uh, 630 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna pool a DNPS and immediately miss football. Yeah 631 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like Terrell Suggs loves football 632 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: and he can beat Rill Suggs in this building, in 633 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: this locker room. So I think he I think he 634 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: also knows that. I think he knows he will move. 635 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: He even kind of said in that conversation with Is, 636 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: like it's kind of a selfish thing, but I'm just 637 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: not ready to give it up, Like I just love 638 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: it so much that I'm not interested in moving on 639 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: speaking DPS, and before we go, what do you make 640 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: of the whole DP situation? Yeah, I mean, I think basically, 641 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, he said in the interview that he did 642 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: with his son that he felt like he missed it, 643 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I think, you know, the fact that 644 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: it's very very well it's calling him a former player 645 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: is a huge piece of it. I think that probably 646 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: the way the season ended didn't sit right with him. 647 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: He's somebody that's really prideful about his career, his legacy 648 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: in all of that, and he probably has been sick 649 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: to his stomach about the fourth and twelfth play since 650 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: it happened. Um and so he had a chance to 651 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: go and be a decordinator for one of his former players, 652 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: and he probably realized soon after making the decision, like, 653 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: am I really ready to give it up yet? And 654 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: I guess not. As we mentioned earlier, we live here 655 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: from you guys and sending your emails every single week 656 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: to us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 657 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back with you next week, and 658 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: we're hoping to get a guest. We have some ideas 659 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: for some guests I actually thought I want during this podcast, 660 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: and now we should give a call. So anyway, that's 661 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: a little teaser. All right, we'll be back to you 662 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: next week.