WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Do It Again 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:04.560 Hi, get everybody. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:08.320 I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:15.160 The You Go Hoo Back Jack Do It Again addition, 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:17.880 as the Bengals look for their second straight win and 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:19.920 try to even the record at three and three as 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.040 they host the Seattle Seahawks. Coming up, I'll visit with 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.960 Iron Eagle, who will broadcast the game for CBS. My 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.800 one on one player interview is with Kwame Lassiter, the 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.000 second who received a game ball last week in the 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.519 city where his late father spent most of his NFL career. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.560 Dave Lappam will join me to discuss Joe Burrow's significantly 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:46.839 improve mobility and how Jamar Chase caught fifteen passes despite 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:51.080 the Cardinals trying to double team him whenever possible. And finally, 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.640 in our no The Faux segment, we'll get the latest 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.240 on the Seahawks from their longtime radio voice, Steve Rabel. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.800 The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.679 Proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:09.440 Alta Fiber future Proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:13.000 business and community to a new level, and by Kettering 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.960 Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.000 is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now here's 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.479 a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.880 of this podcast delivered write to your phone, tablet, or 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:31.200 computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:36.200 greatest thing since the Sinsy Hat. If you've seen Ted 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.760 Kerris do an interview in the last year, chances are 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:43.240 he was wearing the Sinsey hat, more specifically a baseball 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:47.319 hat with the word Sensei and three cat scratch marks 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.000 on the front. Ted had the hats made when he 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.720 joined the Bengals is a fun gift to give to teammates, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.840 never dreaming that there would be a demand for them 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.440 from fans, so he decided to have more made and 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.520 sell them, with all of the proceeds going to the 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:07.440 Village of Marichi, a nonprofit living community in his hometown 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:12.880 of Indianapolis designed to assist adults with Down syndrome, autism, 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:18.200 and other developmental disabilities. Between hat sales and donations, Ted 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.480 has helped raise more than one million dollars. It's a 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.800 great cause and we can all help by buying a hat. 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:30.320 I'm currently rocking a white one with black lettering. There's 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.360 a wide variety of styles and colors available and you 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:38.600 can check them out by visiting the sincyhat dot com. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:43.799 Now time for my first guest. He is the father 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.240 of rising broadcasting star Noah Eagle and he will be 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.520 in the booth this Sunday for CBS to call the 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:53.079 Bengals Seahawks game. My buddy I and Eagle. I and 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.959 Joe Burrow called last week's game in Arizona a must 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.400 win and then he delivered. What did you think of 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.840 Joe's performance and the Bengals victory over the Cardinals last week? 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:08.520 Most importantly, it looked like Joe Burrow previous weeks that 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.560 was not the guy that we had seen in his 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.280 time with Cincinnati. So to me, that was the best 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:20.239 storyline of all that Joe Burrow is healthy and Joe 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:24.040 Burrow looks the part once again. Give him a lot 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.600 of credit for going out there with his teammates, for 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.880 having the pride in which to go and play and 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.880 perform coming off the huge contract that he signed. And 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.560 I know that he's a competitor, no one will ever 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.280 question that. But we did not see the best in 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.160 Joe Burrow. The first few weeks we saw the real 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:43.840 Joe Burrow. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.960 He stood up last week and you were there in 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.560 Week one with Charles Davis to call the game in Cleveland. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.280 It obviously did not go well for Cincinnati. What were 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.040 your takeaways as you exited the stadium that day? 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:57.640 Shock more than anything else. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.960 Look, the element certainly played a role, and I think 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.080 that's always an issue that teams have to handle, and 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.920 for Joe, part of it was that, but I think 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.760 it was compounded by the fact that he just wasn't right. 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.800 He wasn't throwing the ball with any velocity. There were 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.240 times where he just wasn't throwing the ball in a 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.840 normal Joe Burrow like motion. When he snapped off that 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.799 long pass to Jamar Chase last week for the touchdown, 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:29.080 that was the oh wow moment. He's back, And if 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.280 he's back, then you get the sense that the Bengals 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.200 are back. It doesn't mean that it solves all of 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.560 the issues so far, but it goes a long way 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.080 in getting to the place where Cincinnati ultimately wants to be, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.560 and that's consistent, which is a difficult place to get 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:50.280 to in this league. Maintaining excellence is really challenging in 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.480 the NFL, and when you get to a certain stage 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.360 as a franchise and you expect a certain level of 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.839 performance and you don't get it, that's when you have 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:02.360 to figure out some answers and make some adjustments. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:04.279 We're visiting with Ian Egel. 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.440 There are a bunch of great wide receivers in the 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.000 NFL right now, and Jamar Chase is obviously one of 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.960 the very best. When you watch Jamar Chase, what stands 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:14.120 out more than anything else. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.320 It's almost effortless in how he goes about his business, 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.760 and that shows you that he's at a different level 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.640 his versatility. You could put him anywhere on the field. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.919 He knows every position at wide receiver and he knows 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.479 it thoroughly, and you could put him there and he's 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.640 the best guy at it. That shows you a great deal. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.360 You want to work him on the outside, great. You 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.839 want to work him out of the slot, not a problem. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.200 You want to send him on a go route, He 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.080 can do it. I want a fifty to fifty ball 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.120 where you're asking him to go up and get it 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.719 and be physical with a dB not an issue. I 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:57.479 think wide receivers by nature are confident, and most of 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.000 them can use that to their advantage. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:00.719 Some do not. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:06.680 Jamar Chase, that's real. That's not him trying to create 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.800 a character or trying to fire himself up. What he 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:15.039 says he believes. And when he says that he's open 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.440 all the time, he's probably right. 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.000 He is definitely right. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.920 You've done quite a few Bengals games in recent years 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:25.920 and you always have the opportunity to meet with Zach 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.440 Taylor before the game. What stands out about his leadership 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.479 and the job he's done in building the Bengals to 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:33.560 contender status. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:39.880 He's really thorough and there is no minute detail that 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.800 he has not thought of or considered, and I think 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.880 it says a lot about where we are with modern coaches. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.200 It's been a different job. It's not just x's and 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.920 o's that's a big part of it, but managing personalities, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:07:01.039 handling success, motivating, pushing the right buttons, knowing when to 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.000 push your guys and when to maybe go in and 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.560 give him a hug or a tender moment. And I 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.840 think he balances that really well. When you sit down 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:17.320 and talk with him, he's highly organized. He's locked in 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.720 on the task at hand. This is not someone that's 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.119 easily distracted. This is not someone that has a short 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.480 attention span. I've talked to all of them through the years. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.440 That's the one real positive of doing this job is 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.640 you get some time with them and not with a 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.560 camera on and a microphone on, so odds are you're 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:42.240 getting them a little more at ease. And Zach, to me, 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.640 has really grown into this role and he's a student 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.440 of it and he cares a lot that comes across 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:50.920 every time that we sit with him. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.760 Trey Hendrickson had a huge game last week, two and 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.200 a half sacks in Arizona. He's currently tied for second 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.680 in the NFL with six. Do you consider Trey to 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.960 be among the best pass rushers in the NFL. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:03.840 I think he is. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.800 I think there's that top level that always gets notice 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:14.200 and this happens in sports. We categorize players and coaches. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:15.880 It's part of what we do. And I think sports 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:21.760 fans by nature have almost been taught this. It's learned behavior. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:29.640 Comparisons contrast put people in certain boxes, and Trey is 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:34.800 probably considered on that next tier, which is still really 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.400 good in the NFL. But to crack that top tier 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.240 you've got to do it again and again and again. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:46.880 You almost have to do it in a very outward 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.840 dramatic public fashion. And I don't know if Trey is 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:51.959 ever going to be that. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:56.600 He just does his job. He does it really well, and. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.040 You look at his numbers at the end of the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.160 season and say, hey, this guy, he's one of the 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.280 best guys doing it. So I think he's He's mentioned 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:10.800 in that whole topic. But to get into that next year, 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:16.480 that elite tier, that requires four, five, six years of 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.120 sustained play. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.560 So the Seahawks come to town this week, and I'm 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.080 not sure there is a comparison in NFL history for 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.360 Geno Smith. He started his first two years with the Jets, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.040 he had thirty four interceptions, basically sat the bench for 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.480 seven years, and then last year he takes over for 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:37.680 Russell Wilson and earns Pro Bowl recognition. Are you sold 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.199 on Geno Smith at this point? 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.800 So we had Seattle earlier in the season, Dan and 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.640 asked Pete Carroll this exact question, because I find it 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.600 to be one of the best stories in the NFL, 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.679 and the guys that we came up with in comparison, 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.920 these are not perfect comparisons by any stretch. But Pete 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.320 mentioned Steve Young that Steve strugg early in his career 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.440 and then obviously excelled went to the Hall of Fame. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:10.040 That to me probably is a bit extreme. Vinny Testaverdi, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.719 that's a name that came up, struggles early and then 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.640 had his best years, not necessarily in his second stop, 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.439 but it required his third stop with the Jets where 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.480 you started to see what he could do when given 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.360 all the tools around him and his experience. And Rich 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.520 Gannon is another one that popped up as well. Rich 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.920 and I worked together at CBS. Rich was a great partner, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:38.040 a terrific guy, worked his butt off to make himself 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.600 an NFL quarterback and won the MVP Award later in 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:45.240 his career as a member of the Oakland Raiders. I 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.560 think Geno's writing his own story. He was given a 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.480 chance early in his career with the Jets. I was 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.480 doing those preseason games, so I was in those production meetings, 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.840 and Gino was very confident and to me followed almost 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.360 the handbook of what you're supposed to do and what 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.520 you're supposed to say as a starting NFL quarterback. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.280 And now when you meet with him. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.240 I think it's even more sincere and genuine because of 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:14.280 all of the experience that he's gotten and the guys 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.080 that he's been around and waiting for his chance. He 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:22.800 told us he never stopped believing that he was a 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.840 starting quarterback. While everybody else may not have seen it, 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:31.560 he believed it. So to answer your question, yes, I 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.440 believe in him. I think it's a legitimately great NFL 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.720 story and one that other quarterbacks are going to follow 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.040 for many years to come in the league, Guys that 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.360 either aren't getting their opportunity or let one slip away, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.280 but still hold out hope that they could maybe have 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.680 an impact down the road and be the guy somewhere else. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.160 A couple more questions for my friend Ian Eagle. So 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.600 the Bengals take on Seattle this week, they have a 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.920 bye next week, and then a road game at San 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.000 Francisco forty nine ers or five and L. They're winning 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.640 by an average of twenty points a game. Is San 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.840 Francisco the team debat and what teams are in that 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.840 conversation right now. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.080 It feels like Cincinnati's in the NFC West. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:13.920 That's how it feels for me. 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.360 That's been the bulk of their schedule and then obviously 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.360 that's going to come to an end when they play 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.000 the forty nine ers. San Francisco has been a joy 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.760 to watch. That's an offense that's clicking on all cylinders. Defensively, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.720 they really get after it, and they've been doing that 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.280 now for a number of years, going back to when 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.240 Sala was running that defense before he got the head 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.439 coaching job with the Jets, and it's still the same mentality. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.280 Brock Purdy, you want to talk about great stories. He's 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.160 the last pick of the draft. He's playing at an 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:47.600 MVP level and that doesn't happen every day. We know 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.520 how hard it is in this league to find a 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.120 quarterback and then believe in that quarterback. This is year 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.240 two for Brock Perdy in a job that he wasn't 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:59.360 supposed to have, and here he is excelling. They've been 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.200 the best team in the NFL so far, no doubt 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.480 about it. Philadelphia obviously has to be in that conversation. 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:10.040 They're still undefeated. Kansas City. They can look like world beaters, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.760 but it's not quite the same mistique as it was. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.160 And because of that, I think there are teams in 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.160 the AFC that see and opening. Buffalo has certainly played better. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.880 Cincinnati gets mentioned because of what they've done the last 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.800 couple of years, They're going to have to go out 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.760 and prove it. Beyond that, there feels like a drop 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:35.360 off in the NFL, and that's what makes this league 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:40.440 so unpredictable and so intriguing, not just year to year Dan. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.440 Week to week, you think you have a handle on 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.440 things and then something happens. The two games that I 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.280 did last week Thursday, I was in Landover, Maryland, and 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.600 I had Chicago and Washington, and everything was lined up 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.200 for the Commanders to get a win and get that 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.880 extra time off and feel good about where they are 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.720 and their development with Sam. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.440 How they didn't. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.720 The Bears win their first game. They looked really impressive 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.280 in the first half Offensively, DJ Moore was unstoppable. Then 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.440 Sunday I go to Pittsburgh. Everything about the Steelers all 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.880 week had been about the offense being poor, and this 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.920 team may not be able to compete with the elite teams, 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.360 let alone in their division. Forget about the conference for 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.400 a moment. Baltimore controls, it dominates in the first half. 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:36.160 Mistake here, mistake there, missed opportunity and then boom, the 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:41.680 bottom drops out safety interception. Steelers take advantage. They're now 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.040 leading the division at three and two. They had no 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.800 right to win the game. So to me, this is 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.720 what really makes the NFL what it is. It's a 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.560 reality show and every week we're finding out something new 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.800 and something different that we didn't expect. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.880 Seattle comes to town at three and one. They've got 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.080 three game winning streak. What are some of the keys 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:03.120 this Sunday. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.640 Key for Cincinnati? Got to force some turnovers? Seattle has 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.240 avoided it. Can you take that next step? And we 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.040 saw it last week? Really good sign for this Bengals defense. 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.040 I think numbers wise, I hate getting caught up in 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.160 rankings through five weeks. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.680 You see trends. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.240 I believe they're better than their numbers indicate, and they 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.360 will be better when the smoke clears. But can you 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.080 put pressure on Geno Smith force them into a mistake. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.920 Seattle has one turnover this season. 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:36.680 One. 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.800 That's it. That has to. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:44.280 Change if you're the Cincinnati Bengals. In addition, the mar 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:50.080 Chase show is great and it was highlight driven last week. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:52.840 They do have to spread it around. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:53.840 And the running game. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.760 If we believe in trends, it's been getting a little 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.840 bit better, incremently better each week. The hope is this 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.760 is the week for Cincinnati where they bust through over 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.400 one hundred yards rushing and a real impact. Look, this 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.200 is just from the outside looking in. I remember specifically 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.000 a game that you did, a game that I did 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.960 the Jets and the Bengals last year where they needed 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.440 to bleed clock and secure a win. They just gave 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.600 the bolt a samajp Ron over and over and over again. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.080 And it just feels like they've been missing that piece 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.920 this year when they've just needed that. Maybe they find 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.160 it and maybe Trevion Williams is that guy. I don't know, 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.640 but that and the tight end position, you'd like to 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.200 see a little more production from that. I'll put that 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:42.640 in the keys for Sunday as well. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.480 And your schedule is crazy. I always appreciate your time 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.760 when you spend a few minutes with us. 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Last week, with 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.399 t Higgins unable to play because of a fractured rib, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.840 the Bengals promoted Kwame Lassiter the second from the practice squad. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.600 It was the second time in his two NFL seasons 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.040 that Kwame has been on the active roster for a game, 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:31.720 and it was especially meaningful in this case because his dad, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.040 who passed away three years ago at the age of 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.240 forty nine due to a heart attack, was a great 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:43.399 player for the Arizona Cardinals. I talked to Kwame this week. Kwami, 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.440 not only were you on the active roster for last 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.520 week's team against Arizona, but you took part in the 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.679 coin toss as one of the coin toss captains in 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.320 the same city where your dad spent the first eight 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.040 years of his NFL career. How did you get the 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:58.760 news that you were going to be a game day captain. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.119 Oh, we got the hotel and we was going through 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.000 the walkthrough and Zach called me over and told me 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:07.720 so I was appreciated of that because my family's gonna 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.119 be there. Sadly, my mom wasn't there. She's in Italy, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:16.639 so it's a win lose for her. But it was special. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.440 I'm appreciative of him for that. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.320 Can you describe the emotions walking out to the fifty 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:22.840 with Logan Wilson by your side? 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:24.760 To be honest, I was just thinking about the game. 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.680 I know that was more for my family to enjoy it, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:28.960 but I was just thinking about the game. I knew 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:30.560 what we were trying to do when we got out there, 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.560 so I was honestly thinking about winning that football game. 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.760 The story doesn't end there. With about a minute left 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.520 in regulation, you caught your first regular season NFL catch. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.840 Borro takes the snap, throws it out to the right. 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:47.120 It is caught by Kwame Lassiter. He will be tackled 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.800 in bounds, but that is significant. You might be thinking, 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.919 all right, why are they throwing the ball with a 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.520 minute to go up by fourteen. Well, Kwame Lassiter does 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.639 not have an NFL catch. His father played here for 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:03.439 near a decade. His late dad Kwame Senior. So the 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:07.120 Bengals made Kwame Lassiter a captain prior to the game 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.960 today and they allow him to have his first ever 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:11.080 NFL catch. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:17.800 That's that's a good example of how everybody feels about 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.199 everybody else in the football team. I mean, you know, 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.399 it's just one of those things where that's a moment 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.520 this guy will remember the rest of his life and 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.760 pats off to Zach Taylor and everybody else responsible for 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:31.480 making it happen. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.280 We learned the next day that play wasn't called from 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.600 the sideline. Joe Burrow checked to a pass on that 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.720 play to make sure that you got to catch, and 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.840 then you got a game ball after the game. What 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.600 did that tell you about how your coaches and teammates 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:45.199 feel about you. 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:47.560 It was real solid. No, they got my bag. 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.639 They knew that was a special moment for my family, 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.320 and it was a special moment for Mitsu. So I 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.919 got a good group around me and they're real solid. 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.040 When Coach Taylor tossed to your game ball in the 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.320 locker room afterward, he mentioned the fact that your late dad, 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:07.840 Kwame had four interceptions in an NFL game, which is 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:09.600 tied for the all time record. He's one of twenty 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.560 guys to do it. I didn't realize that before Zach 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.520 shared that story in the locker room. I think that 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:18.439 was the year you were born. What have you learned 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.600 about his performance in that game? 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:22.639 So I see the highlights all the time when I 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:24.840 was growing up, and it's on YouTube actually, so I 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.879 would when I was a kid, I'd go watching them 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:31.000 highlights on YouTube, and like you said, I wasn't born yet, 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.600 or I might have just been born, so I just. 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:35.200 Know the highlights. 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.040 And he would always say like, I'm a Deefens bag, 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:38.480 but I always got the ball in my hands, so 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:40.240 that's kind of the thing of where I got my 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:40.960 hands from. 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.479 So we've learned that your mom was in Italy and 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:46.480 couldn't be there last Sunday. But what friends and family 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:48.480 did you have there and did you have a chance 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:49.800 to visit before after the game? 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.359 Yeah, I had my fiance out there. I had the 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:56.840 rest of my family out there, my cousins, brothers, so 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:58.880 it was special. I got to see them a little 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:00.840 bit before during warm ups because they got there early. 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:02.400 They made sure they got there early for that one, 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:03.680 so I got to see him a little bit before 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:05.520 during war up warm ups, and then I seen them 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.880 all after the game, and it was special. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:12.760 We're visiting with Kwame Lassiter. Speaking of family, I learned 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.560 from broadcasting University of Cincinnati games that you have a 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.000 brother who is a wide receiver at BYU. He had 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.280 a touchdown catch against the Bearcats. You have another brother, Quinton, 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.520 who is a defensive back at You're alma mater, Kansas. 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:26.920 He had interceptions in each of the first two games 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.399 of this season. So they're both having great years. And 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:33.000 they played each other. Kansas played BYU last month. What 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:34.000 was that like for you? 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:35.520 That was a special we got. 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:40.359 My mom got us split cut shirts, well Darius on 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.280 one side and Quinn on the other side. She kept 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.679 running with bad a little brothers even though we were 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.040 trying to switch it to the last of the bow, 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.040 but she kept running with better little brothers. And it 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.960 was a great weekend for me. I was here, which 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:52.840 is a good thing that I'm here, But I did 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:54.920 want to be at that game. My whole family was 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.280 out there for that one too. I didn't really care 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:58.720 who won. That was the first time I would not 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.879 have been mad if Kansas lost. Really, so, I do 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.439 want to see my boys ball and they did for 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:05.879 the record. 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:07.000 Kansas squad, Yeah, it. 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.240 Was a win win and and Darius. He lost, but 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:11.879 he had a good game so and he scored. 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.440 So that's a split jersey that your mom had made. 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.480 So I got a split They have a split jersey. 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:19.400 I have a split shirt just with pictures of them. 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.320 And then I gotta I make sure I bought a 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.200 b whye jersey because I got so much Kansas gear 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.040 and Quentin Ward's eight too, so I could just throw 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.040 in a jersey old school jersey. But uh yeah, I 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.840 got split jerseys in BYU five and all black. 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:36.040 All right, let's turn to the Bengals. As a wide receiver. 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.919 I'm sure you have great appreciation for the people that 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.119 are masters of your craft, and Jamar Chase had one 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.000 of those games last week with a team record fifteen catches. 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.639 What did you respect most about that performance? 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:50.760 You see what he can do with the ball in 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:54.560 his hands, and uh, you know, he got a great 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.239 He's a great athlete, so he can do a lot 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.320 with the ball in his hands. And there was one 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:01.240 play that stuck out to me that he's a d ball. 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:03.960 He had a post route kind of and he is 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.240 when he scored. That's a tough catch to make for 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.120 a wide receiver if you don't know the game is over, 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.560 the like the behind your head, and he put his 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:11.840 hands back here and caught it. 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:13.400 And that's impressive. 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:13.680 Man. 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.719 It's it's a tough catch to make, but you're supposed 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:18.359 to make the catch. 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.520 In my eyes, he has numero uno for a reason. 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.080 Prior to that game last week, Joe Burrow said, it's 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.600 a must win, and you guys went out and delivered. 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.960 What's the mindset for you and your teammates this week 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:32.080 going into the Seattle game. 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.679 I think every game is a must win, honestly, and 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:36.320 I think the guys in there thing so too. I 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.800 feel like you don't go as a game expecting to lose, 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.119 So I think every game is a must win, especially 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.200 with them guys and they where their head is at. 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.240 I think here on out, every game is a must win. 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.800 Final question for Kwame Lassiter. This is your second year 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.440 on the Bengals practice squad and you're not getting rich, 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.159 but it is a six figure income. How would you 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.560 describe your thought process as you try to move toward 0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.760 more regular season opportunities. 0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:03.520 You gotta keep blessing again. You study the playbook like 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.040 as you plan practice, as you plan I feel like 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:07.720 you're supposed to do everything as you're about to play, 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:11.119 just in case, because you know, anything happen. So I 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.040 still trying to slow the game down every aspect of 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:14.400 the game. 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.400 And I'm just blessing the game. 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:16.560 Man. 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.359 I'm trying to be I'm trying to be one of 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.800 them greats and potentially and I feel like the guys 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:22.080 in here. 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.680 Sidesla congrats on the first of what we hope are 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:27.959 many NFL regular season catches. 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.880 Yeah, amen to that. I hear that one real. 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:35.439 That's Kwame Glassiter. Wami will join Dave Lapham and me 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.720 on the Bengals pep Rally Show this Friday. We'll be 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:43.040 broadcasting from the Wings and Rings location in Greendale, Indiana, 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.760 from three to six, and Kwame will join us for 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.520 the final hour of the show. We hope to see 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:52.520 you there. In last week's fourteen point win at Arizona, 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.760 the impostor that had been wearing the Bengals number nine 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.240 jersey in the first four weeks was replaced by. 0:24:59.119 --> 0:24:59.880 The real deal. 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.159 Joe Burrow was finally able to move around as his 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.800 calf continues to heal, and the result was a vintage 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:10.919 Joey franchise performance, as he completed seventy eight percent of 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:14.880 his passes for three hundred and seventeen yards with three 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:18.560 touchdowns and a passer rating of one oh eight point one. 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:23.200 Joe spoke to reporters on Wednesday and shared encouraging news 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:24.439 about his calf. 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.800 Feel good, keep getting better, So it's exciting. 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:28.720 Is his problems close to one hundred percent? 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.240 He felt since going back to before. 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:32.400 Trying to get start by far. 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.800 Yeah, when he woke up the next morning from the game. 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.960 Was it encouraging? How good you felt when he woke 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.439 about exerting as much. 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:39.720 As you did. 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.920 Yeah, it was, And I felt that way last week too, 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.560 after the game. It felt it felt good after last week. 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:46.639 So we're just getting. 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:50.480 Better and better. On your coat, it's hard to say. 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.840 I'm confident that I can. I can run around and 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:56.640 extend and make plays right now, So tough to say 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.200 percentage wise, but we're pretty close. 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.960 What's the biggest difference for you physical ability to be 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.400 more mobile or was it more like a mental. 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:06.240 Thing or something else? 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:07.680 Physical ability? 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:08.360 Physical? 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.719 What is it about that that made such a difference 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:12.040 for you? 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:13.000 On Sunday, I. 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:16.320 Was just you know, it's feeling feeling good after, you know, 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.160 the first touchdown, I figured I was gonna be confident 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:23.000 in my calf all day, and it's it's tough. It's 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.200 tough sledding. When you can't when you can't move around 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.120 in the pocket, when you can't extend plays, you gotta 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:29.359 play a certain kind of way. And so I was 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:30.760 able to play the game the way I wanted to, 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.600 the way I expected to. We were able to come 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:34.280 out with a big win. 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:35.600 Folks. 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.119 On this week now, Dave Lapham and I discussed Burrow 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.680 and his favorite target, Jamar Chase on the Bengals Game 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:46.359 Play and Show. So Joe threw three touchdown passes last week, 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.960 all to Jamar Chase. I don't know if he could 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.960 have thrown any of them the previous week when his 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.760 calf was still hurting. On touchdowns one in three he 0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.480 moved in the red zone. Yep, he hadn't been moving. 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.200 Touchdown number two, he threw the ball fifty eight yards 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.520 in the air where he had to really push off 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.720 on the right calf. So that was pretty definitive proof 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.000 that the calf is getting better. 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.200 No question that fifty eight yards in the air is 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.879 the longest of his career. If it had gone to 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:18.879 the ground, it would have been well over sixty yards 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:19.359 in the air. 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.000 That's a goose in the town. They're pretty good. 0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:26.440 And like you said, getting out of pocket or climbing 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.680 the pocket and changing direction in the pocket, all those 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.600 kind of things. I mean, that wasn't there for Joe 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.639 for the first you know, four football games, but it 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:39.080 was there for this one, and what a difference it made. 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:40.920 And honestly, in. 0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:46.040 Today's NFL third down red zone, quarterback mobility is a must. 0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:49.119 I mean it's, you know, the fields compressed in the 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.760 red zone, it's gonna be harder to get open. 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:52.960 And sometimes the. 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.280 Play that's called, you know, is taken away and then 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.320 it's like extend and create. Get receiver and quarterback on 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.080 the same page. Like Joe and Jamar do so well. 0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.840 It's like they have mental telepthy esp. They know what 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.360 each other is going to do before they really do it. 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.359 It's kind of crazy, really, And actually, Joe Burrow had 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.080 a fourth touchdown pass to Tyler Boyd's right that was 0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:18.120 taken away on a bogus call on Kappa. I mean, 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.840 he got his hand up there maybe for a split 0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.200 second and My understanding of the rule is if you 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.200 get your hand out of there right away, which he did. 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:28.800 He knew he was close, so he get out of there, 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:33.159 it's not a penalty. And I can find plays in 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:37.400 that game where defensive players had offensive lineman's face past 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.920 grab and the other way around, they weren't called in. 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.600 I mean, it was unfortunate that that little bogus moved 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:47.200 there nullified a fourth touchdown pass for Joe Burrow to 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.800 Tyler Boyd. That would have been extraordinary. They had three 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.920 touchdowns for the season going into the game, and they 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.840 matched their total would have exceeded it if they let 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.400 that one. Let that one stand. But I do think 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.320 that now they can build on something. You know, it's 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:08.160 like they're getting closer to getting back to normal. And 0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.480 it had to be so frustrating to Joe Burrow and 0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:18.160 the receivers to realize if I wasn't medically challenged, if 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.400 I could buy us a little bit more time, we 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.600 could have done so much more in those four games. 0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.680 But it wasn't meant to be at that point. 0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.880 And on the receiving end of the touchdowns was Jamar 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:34.680 Chase and an unbelievable performance fifteen catches. That's a new 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.560 Bengals single game record, one hundred and ninety two yards, 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.400 three touchdowns, and he had that game by lining up 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.360 and moving around all over the place. Let's hear from 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:48.880 head coach Zach Taylor on what it took to have 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.920 that kind of performance for Jamar Chase. 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.640 And we've got to continue to be creative with ways 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.600 to get him the ball because teams are always gonna 0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.720 try their best to take him away, and we that's 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:00.880 part of our job as coach just to make sure 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.240 that you can't fully take a guy away. We got 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.040 to continue to be creative and find ways to get 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.680 him the ball and allow him to be explosive. And 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.240 it might not always be fifty eight years down the field, 0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:13.920 you know, launching the ball. It might be just trying 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:14.920 to get him the ball and the move or get 0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.480 him the ball in the backfield. And he's done a 0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.800 great job. Again, there's never any m as from you know, 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.120 miss assignments from him when he's putting those positions. He 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.239 he nails it and knows how to do it, and 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:29.440 that allows you to be a lot more flexible with 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.800 how you use him and get him fifteen catches in 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.760 a game because he's able to retain all the information 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:36.120 you're throwing out of the week. I mean he's got 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:37.800 he's got as much information as he's got to retain 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.960 as any any player other than quarterback maybe over the 0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:42.920 course of the week in terms of how what position 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:44.400 am I playing, Where am I lined up? 0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:45.360 What is my route? 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.760 In this concept, he's got to do a lot lap. 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.200 I think you can speak to the difficulty of what 0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:55.160 Jamar Chase did in lining up at every wide receiver spot, 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.760 knowing the route you got to run from every spot 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.480 going in motion a lot. In your playing days, you 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.120 played every spot on the offensive line and did that 0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:07.160 in single games. It wasn't like, you know, you played 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.640 left tackle one game, you played right tackle another one. 0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.120 There were games where you played every spot on the 0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:16.200 offensive line, which takes a tremendous amount of study and 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.720 knowing the assignments. What Jamar Chase is doing is not 0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.520 as simple as people might think. 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:26.600 You're right, Dan, and you know, the different positions require 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.320 different skill sets too. On the outside, it's a much 0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:33.719 different route routes that you're running as opposed in the slot. 0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:38.400 You know, and like when I played all those spots 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.960 Garden tackle were much different in terms of pass protection, 0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:46.320 technique and responsibility Center as well. I mean, center had 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.080 a whole different set of responsibilities and techniques and everything 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.880 to it. So it can if you let it, it 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.840 can overwhelm you, you know, But you. 0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.480 Try to just do the best you can. 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.160 And in putting it in a in a form that 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:07.560 you can relate to and recall quickly. It's almost like 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:13.400 you're studying schematics and concepts as much as you are 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.800 memorizing assignments. It's always like it's it's it's better to 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.520 have an understanding of if I'm an uncovered lineman, there's 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.680 two or three things I'm going to have to do 0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.520 on this play, which one makes the most sense, you know, 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.680 And so if you get in a pinch, just rely 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.480 on your football instincts to take you to a to 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.120 a place where you can make a call and have 0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:38.760 it work. Same type of thing with with Joe and 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:44.120 his receivers. When plays are covered initially and they break down, 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.880 now you have to understand concepts, understand where you are 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:51.600 in the field, what things you can do to create 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.360 a secondary play that the quarterback is going to be 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:55.200 able to react to. 0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:56.680 That's not easy stuff. 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:58.960 I mean, that takes a lot of work, a lot 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.600 of timing with each other, and I admire the guys 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.200 that can do it. I mean Jamar Jamar is not 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.680 only physically gifted, he's mentally gifted to be able to 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.400 do that. Trenton Irwin was doing is doing the same thing. 0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.200 You know, in his role, he has to line up 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:20.240 everywhere and and honestly, the Bengals bring in receivers. 0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.640 That can do that, Yosi vash the young guys. 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.760 I mean, I did a podcast with Troy Walters yesterday 0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.720 and he said that every single receiver in that room 0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:35.280 has to know every spot, and some are further along 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.760 than others in that regard. But I mean, we played 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:40.640 back in the seventies and eighties, it might have been 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:44.600 one guy that could do that. If that guy get hurt, 0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:46.760 you are still back to the drawing board in terms 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.760 of jeez, we can't move anybody around here. So then 0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.360 it'd be a second guy, but no more than two. 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.640 Now it's everybody on this on this football team, And 0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.240 to me, it's uh, it's great because it makes life 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.320 so much easier for Joe Burrow as well, because He 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:07.080 trusts all these guys that they know their end of 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.040 the bargain as well as he knows his end of 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.759 the bargain. And when he sees something, he expects them 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.840 to be where they're supposed to be, when they're supposed 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.600 to be there, doing what they're supposed to do. And 0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:23.160 the trust level between quarterback and receiver on this football team. 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.160 Is sky high. It's as good as there is in 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:26.359 the National Football League. 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.960 Every opponent the Bengals face, the number one objective on 0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.000 defense that take away Jamar Chase. If again, they're going 0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.040 to double team them or shade in his direction on 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.680 virtually every snap. For him to have a game like 0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.560 that with fifteen catches, really about the only way to 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.120 do it is to move them around the way they 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:44.320 did absolutely. 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.920 I mean, you know, particularly with t Higgins down. With 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.239 t Higgins down, it's like we're going to double you, 0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.640 and we're going to try to single up some others, 0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:55.479 maybe double Tyler Boyd, try to single up on Trent 0:34:55.480 --> 0:35:00.880 and Irwin. But the fact is, you have it's musical 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.680 chairs and you don't know when the music's gonna stop. 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.640 You have trenton Irwin moving around, you have Jamar Chase 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:10.040 moving around. I mean Trent Irwin was single receiver on 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.719 one side of the formation one play, he's lined up 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.640 in trips. On another play he motions to slot on 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.960 another and Jamar's moving around too. It's like, I mean, 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.640 if you're saying, okay, what we want to do is 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.440 double that guy and single that guy. But then they 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.239 motion the opposite way. It's like, BOYD, now do I 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:29.279 try to run with them? 0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.439 We're playing zone defense. We can't do that. We're gonna 0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:33.000 have to roll. 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.799 Oh, make sure we roll to double coverage here and 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.520 single up here. So your chance for the defense making 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:43.800 a mistake based on what their original call was by formation, 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.480 then all of a sudden, the whole formation changes because 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.360 everybody can line up everywhere. Puts a lot of pressure 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.160 on the defense to make sure that they're communicating all 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:57.280 the changes due to the shift and strength to the formation, 0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.440 and it's the current and everything, and it puts a 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.480 lot of stress in the defense, particularly when the clock's 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:05.120 winding down, the play clock's winding down. All that's going on, man, 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.759 that's like a fire drill out there, man. 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.320 And that's a good segue to the next topic because 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:15.719 Jamar Chase did his best to dows a fire on Thursday. 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.960 One of Seattle's best receivers, DK Metcalf, was asked this 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.399 week what he appreciates about Jamar's game. 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.360 I mean, just the long ball that I think Burrowed 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.319 threw to him on like a seventy yard bomb. Just 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.040 how effortlessly he caught the ball. So he's just a 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.640 great receiver. Took my hat off to him with you 0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.640 know what he's done the first three years in the league, 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.680 So you know, it'll be fun to watch Sunday, But 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:41.879 I think it's going to get the best of them. 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.920 So at the end of all of those mostly flattering comments, 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:48.560 Metcalf said, I think Spoon will get the best of him, 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:53.480 expressing confidence in rookie cornerback Devin Witherspoon, who is the 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:57.400 fifth pick in this year's draft. In this day and age, 0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:01.880 that is considered to be trash talk, so reporters myself 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.640 included race to get your mars reaction. 0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.240 He ain't doing nothing but just praising his teammate. 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:08.240 Though you know what I'm say, that's. 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.120 What he's supposed to do. At the end of the day, 0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.600 it's about game time. Represent game time de sitting, so 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.480 he gonna get the opportunity to get his match ups 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.440 and they just see who win that matchup. 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:20.000 Like when does peop. 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:21.440 All talk trash to you? 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.359 I mean you seem to have like so much fun. 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.720 I mean that sports part of the game. I expect 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:28.720 people to talk trash to me. If you don't talk trash, 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.080 you don't like football. But I'm usually one talking first, 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.960 so so I don't think they have time to talk 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:35.920 about there. 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:36.840 Do you like enjoy it? 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.120 Or does it start laughing first? I haven't heard anything 0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:41.879 that's like really like damn you said that? 0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.320 Is there a line you can't cross when the trash start? 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.959 There is no line trash talking for no, No, there's 0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.040 no rules to it. That's why I stalled trash talking. 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.200 So how does it work since whether spentiff talk track 0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:56.600 persons to. 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:56.640 Make talk more. 0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.000 Yeah, that's why I ain't say nothing until he says something. 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.000 I'll say something, but is DK I'm not lynched. I'm 0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.800 not checking DK, DK not checking me. You know what 0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.440 I'm saying. He just saying what you want to say 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.400 at the end of day, so which they just spice 0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.200 it up the game, Like what I said against Cleveland 0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:13.719 just spicing up the game a little bit and make 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.919 NH making us have more energy coming into the game. 0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:21.120 Follow this, Oddly enough, Witherspoon might not be the primary 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:26.240 person covering Chase. The Seahawks also have Tariq the Freak Woollen, 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.879 who is six ' four, ran a four to two 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.480 six forty at the combine and had six interceptions as 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:37.920 a rookie last year, the most of any NFL cornerback. Finally, 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.920 time for this week's Know the Faux segment. The radio 0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.640 voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, joined Lapping Me on 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.480 the Bengals Game Plan Show this week, and I started 0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:51.439 our conversation by asking him about QB Geno Smith, who 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.239 took over for Russell Wilson last year and went to 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.200 the Pro Bowl after basically sitting the bench for the 0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:01.520 previous seven seasons. I asked Steve, at what point last 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.960 year he started to think that Geno Smith could be 0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.800 a quality starting quarterback in the NFL. 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.080 You know, it might have even taken place the year 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:16.680 before that, Dan and that was when Russ broke his 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:21.279 finger and missed four games and Gino came in, and 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.560 you know, we kind of didn't play well around him 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.520 a couple of those games, but then a couple of 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.840 them he really lit it up, and it was a 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.160 parent that he you know, he got it, He knew 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.080 the offense, and and he still had obviously a really 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:40.680 good arm. What we didn't all know was could he 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.560 protect himself in the pocket. We were so used to 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.919 seeing Russ being able to get up and take off, 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.880 move around, throw on the run. But could Gino do 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.480 those things? Could he command the huddle like a starter 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.160 has to do, And it had been a long time 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.879 that he had done that. Well, he did all those 0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:01.520 things and amaze everybody but the guys on the team 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:04.080 and the coaches because they saw it every day. 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:05.000 They saw how. 0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.520 He prepared every day they knew and even during training 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.319 camp of last year, Pete would, you know, pull me 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.240 in a few of the guys aside and say, listen, 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.759 if you don't watch Gino every single day, you're not 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.440 really knowing the full story of how prepared he is 0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.040 and how well he's going to play. I don't think 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:26.239 there was ever any doubt in Pete's mind as they 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.759 got into preseason a year ago and then the start 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.799 of the regular season that Gino was going to do 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:32.520 his job. 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.920 So Steve, turnovers are huge at any level of football. 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.239 I mean, watching my grandson play pee wee football. When 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.239 they turn it over, they lose the football game. When 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:44.799 they don't, they got a chance. 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.600 For a football team to not only haven't. 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.279 Lost a fumble, they're one of four teams that haven't 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.600 lost a fumble, but think the only team in the 0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.319 NFL that hasn't put it on the ground once in 0:40:55.440 --> 0:41:01.319 four that's very very unusual. One give one interception by 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.799 Gino Smith one giveaway on the season is best in 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.239 the National Football League as well. Obviously, obviously it's a 0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.800 it's a it's a focus and when in the plus 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:15.840 department since twenty ten and turnovers eighty five and nineteen, 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:19.120 that's that's pretty good. I mean, is it is it 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.520 a big deal? Do they work on that part of things, 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.600 ball security turnovers all the time? 0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:32.200 I mean it's it's literally every day that not only 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.839 do they work on it, but that he talks about it. 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.279 You know, I interview him twice during the course of 0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.160 the week, one on one for different segments of our broadcast. 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:44.640 And if he doesn't stick in there somewhere that it's 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.160 all about the ball. Then, you know, I feel like 0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:51.160 I haven't done my job to kind of to kind 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.680 of get him to say those because he is just 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.880 so much about what it means to be able to 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.319 take the ball away and not turn it over. You know, 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:03.120 with plus after four games, you know, San Francisco is 0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.080 only plus seven. And in my estimation after watching them 0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:07.839 now for a couple of weeks, they're the best team 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.000 in football. I don't care if you're the Chiefs, I 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.360 don't care if for the Eagles. No offense to the Bengals, 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.319 but San Francisco looks like the real deal. And then 0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.959 come to me, as you said, we've given it away 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.400 once and we're a plus five. You win football games 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.879 if you do that, and if you can protect the ball, 0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.160 and our running backs are really solid with it, our 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.319 receivers they don't cough it up when they get hit. 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.920 And we're just now really getting into I think, a 0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:35.839 real kind of nice run, you know how they come 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.440 in bunches. I think we're getting into that phase right 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.400 here where we might see a couple more in the 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.440 next few weeks. I know that's what they're sure hoping for. 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.480 We are visiting with the voice of the Seahawks Steve Rabel. 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.239 Seattle is three and one. They got a three game 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:52.919 winning streak, and they're doing it despite some pretty significant 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.160 injury issues so far this year. Jamal Adams has been out, 0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.960 the starting right tackle has been out. Former UC Bear 0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.759 Kobe Bryant's missed the last couple of games. What are 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.440 some of the biggest injury question marks going into this 0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.879 week's game from Seattle's perspective, You. 0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:14.480 Know, it's not question marks now, it's sort of, you know, 0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.480 sigh of relief. Some of these guys are going to 0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:21.000 start coming back now how quickly, and for this week, 0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.680 I think maybe a couple of them will be back. 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.160 We're hoping that Charles Cross, our big tackle on the 0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.319 left side, will be back. But then again, we got 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:34.200 a couple of the guards hurt last week in that game, 0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:36.360 that Monday night game in New York. They may or 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.320 may not be ready to play. Abe Lucas, our right tackle, 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.960 still has another game out on the IR so he's 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.480 still got one more to go. I think a couple 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.560 of things. First of all, back in the day when 0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.880 Dave and I played, and that's you know, back before 0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:54.560 they had microphones and plastic for helmets, and we really 0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:57.520 did use the flatterer. We really did use the bladder 0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:02.719 of a pig to play the game. But in those days, uh, 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.040 you know, the whole idea get that starting group together 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.719 and they play all the time, and if you had 0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.480 to stick somebody in there, uh, it was you know, 0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:16.200 oftentimes it was a real issue for you. The best 0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.400 thing that happened to the Seahawks early in the season 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.080 was that if guys were going to go down, they 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:24.520 went down, and they plugged right in with these young 0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.840 especially young offensive linemens and a couple of young defensive backs, 0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.760 and those guys stepped up and played. And that only 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.480 can pay dividends for you as the season goes on. 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:39.120 So I don't think Pete batter than I. He was 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.040 a little bit concerned, but yeah, these guys have stepped 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.040 up and done a great job. I think we're going 0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:46.759 to have Jamal back. I'm pretty sure we will. You know, 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:50.719 he's out of cushion protocol. Gino Hurd his be a 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.200 little bit on a rough tackle. He practiced right away 0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:57.000 starting on Monday, so he'll be fine. So I think 0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.359 we're actually in better shape, maybe than we were going 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:00.120 into New York. 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.600 He wasn't happy about that tackle, There's no question about that. 0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:04.600 He was. 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.480 He thought that was a little bit dirty, didn't he. 0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.680 I mean this, yeah, you know, and back in the day, 0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.000 that was just the tackle. In fact, you know, it 0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:17.120 was nothing to it then, And I think even Gino 0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.239 walked it back a little bit in the locker room. 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.120 He sort of wasn't happy about the way it happened 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:23.640 and the guy fell on the back of his leg. 0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:28.120 But you know, shoot that those things happened. That's the game, 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.879 you know, So you don't have to be happy about it. 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.560 Just don't get hurt, get back out there and throw 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:34.640 a couple of dutchdowns. 0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.680 My question is a lot of times first down success 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.960 leads to third down success. It's so disjointed with Seattle 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.720 great on first down. Offensively six point one yards per play, 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.239 eighth best in the league on first down, it's not 0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.320 converting on third down twenty eight point nine percent, thirty 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.760 first in the league. Defensively, four point twenty seven yards 0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.400 per playing first down, second best in the league. Not 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:03.400 converting on third down fifty two point four conversion percent, 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:04.600 it's thirty first. 0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:04.880 In the league. 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:08.279 What what What's what gives there? I guess I'm just 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.880 a little confused by those numbers. They don't they don't 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:11.960 jive for me. 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.440 We have a production meeting for our broadcast every Wednesday, 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.120 when we go over and we talk to players and 0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.760 we talk to Peach and we talked about that today, 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.480 trying to figure out why is this the case and 0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.120 how you're right, how kind of disjointed that is. One 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.279 of the things we sort of came up with is uh. 0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.600 And I'm not giving away anything that you know you 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:35.440 can't see on film, but we're on third down conversion. 0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.000 One of the things we're not really doing, especially on 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.200 third and shorts, we're not moving guys off the line 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.719 of scrimmage. It's amazing that we have running lanes first 0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:48.360 and second down, or we go on first down for 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.600 eight yards and then we have some running lanes on 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.640 second down. But it seems like when we get up 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.040 there and we absolutely have to have it and we 0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.799 have to run that the other guys or suddenly the 0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:00.759 defensive line is playing on our side of the line 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.759 of scrimmage and that's not a good thing. Uh. And 0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:07.239 I think also Ken Walker, our second year running back, 0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:10.520 who is just just a treat, just phenomenal. Is as 0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:13.279 good a kid as he is a football player. But 0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.840 what he tends to do sometimes is, you know, he'll 0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.840 lose a yard to pick up three yards. He'll slide 0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:21.880 down the line of scrimmage and look for a crease 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.200 when there's no crease there, and especially when you need 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:29.040 to go straight ahead. I think they need to again 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:33.040 continue to work on that. Just the power blocking up front. 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:36.160 You know, we're not much of his own blocking team. 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:37.960 We like to get you know, get a hat on 0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.120 a hat and push people and I think I think 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.960 we're going to get better at that. And listen, one 0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.399 of our best capt secrets, although he's not a great 0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.520 secret anymore, is Zach Sharbonay, the rookie out of UCLA. 0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:52.799 This guy is a battering ram and he can also 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:55.560 catch the ball out of the backfield. 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