Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.
Speaker 2: The You Go Hoo Back Jack Do It Again addition,
Speaker 2: as the Bengals look for their second straight win and
Speaker 2: try to even the record at three and three as
Speaker 2: they host the Seattle Seahawks. Coming up, I'll visit with
Speaker 2: Iron Eagle, who will broadcast the game for CBS. My
Speaker 2: one on one player interview is with Kwame Lassiter, the
Speaker 2: second who received a game ball last week in the
Speaker 2: city where his late father spent most of his NFL career.
Speaker 2: Dave Lappam will join me to discuss Joe Burrow's significantly
Speaker 2: improve mobility and how Jamar Chase caught fifteen passes despite
Speaker 2: the Cardinals trying to double team him whenever possible. And finally,
Speaker 2: in our no The Faux segment, we'll get the latest
Speaker 2: on the Seahawks from their longtime radio voice, Steve Rabel.
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Speaker 2: Now time for my first guest. He is the father
Speaker 2: of rising broadcasting star Noah Eagle and he will be
Speaker 2: in the booth this Sunday for CBS to call the
Speaker 2: Bengals Seahawks game. My buddy I and Eagle. I and
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow called last week's game in Arizona a must
Speaker 2: win and then he delivered. What did you think of
Speaker 2: Joe's performance and the Bengals victory over the Cardinals last week?
Speaker 3: Most importantly, it looked like Joe Burrow previous weeks that
Speaker 3: was not the guy that we had seen in his
Speaker 3: time with Cincinnati. So to me, that was the best
Speaker 3: storyline of all that Joe Burrow is healthy and Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow looks the part once again. Give him a lot
Speaker 3: of credit for going out there with his teammates, for
Speaker 3: having the pride in which to go and play and
Speaker 3: perform coming off the huge contract that he signed. And
Speaker 3: I know that he's a competitor, no one will ever
Speaker 3: question that. But we did not see the best in
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. The first few weeks we saw the real
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: He stood up last week and you were there in
Speaker 2: Week one with Charles Davis to call the game in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: It obviously did not go well for Cincinnati. What were
Speaker 2: your takeaways as you exited the stadium that day?
Speaker 1: Shock more than anything else.
Speaker 3: Look, the element certainly played a role, and I think
Speaker 3: that's always an issue that teams have to handle, and
Speaker 3: for Joe, part of it was that, but I think
Speaker 3: it was compounded by the fact that he just wasn't right.
Speaker 3: He wasn't throwing the ball with any velocity. There were
Speaker 3: times where he just wasn't throwing the ball in a
Speaker 3: normal Joe Burrow like motion. When he snapped off that
Speaker 3: long pass to Jamar Chase last week for the touchdown,
Speaker 3: that was the oh wow moment. He's back, And if
Speaker 3: he's back, then you get the sense that the Bengals
Speaker 3: are back. It doesn't mean that it solves all of
Speaker 3: the issues so far, but it goes a long way
Speaker 3: in getting to the place where Cincinnati ultimately wants to be,
Speaker 3: and that's consistent, which is a difficult place to get
Speaker 3: to in this league. Maintaining excellence is really challenging in
Speaker 3: the NFL, and when you get to a certain stage
Speaker 3: as a franchise and you expect a certain level of
Speaker 3: performance and you don't get it, that's when you have
Speaker 3: to figure out some answers and make some adjustments.
Speaker 1: We're visiting with Ian Egel.
Speaker 2: There are a bunch of great wide receivers in the
Speaker 2: NFL right now, and Jamar Chase is obviously one of
Speaker 2: the very best. When you watch Jamar Chase, what stands
Speaker 2: out more than anything else.
Speaker 3: It's almost effortless in how he goes about his business,
Speaker 3: and that shows you that he's at a different level
Speaker 3: his versatility. You could put him anywhere on the field.
Speaker 3: He knows every position at wide receiver and he knows
Speaker 3: it thoroughly, and you could put him there and he's
Speaker 3: the best guy at it. That shows you a great deal.
Speaker 3: You want to work him on the outside, great. You
Speaker 3: want to work him out of the slot, not a problem.
Speaker 3: You want to send him on a go route, He
Speaker 3: can do it. I want a fifty to fifty ball
Speaker 3: where you're asking him to go up and get it
Speaker 3: and be physical with a dB not an issue. I
Speaker 3: think wide receivers by nature are confident, and most of
Speaker 3: them can use that to their advantage.
Speaker 1: Some do not.
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, that's real. That's not him trying to create
Speaker 3: a character or trying to fire himself up. What he
Speaker 3: says he believes. And when he says that he's open
Speaker 3: all the time, he's probably right.
Speaker 1: He is definitely right.
Speaker 2: You've done quite a few Bengals games in recent years
Speaker 2: and you always have the opportunity to meet with Zach
Speaker 2: Taylor before the game. What stands out about his leadership
Speaker 2: and the job he's done in building the Bengals to
Speaker 2: contender status.
Speaker 3: He's really thorough and there is no minute detail that
Speaker 3: he has not thought of or considered, and I think
Speaker 3: it says a lot about where we are with modern coaches.
Speaker 3: It's been a different job. It's not just x's and
Speaker 3: o's that's a big part of it, but managing personalities,
Speaker 3: handling success, motivating, pushing the right buttons, knowing when to
Speaker 3: push your guys and when to maybe go in and
Speaker 3: give him a hug or a tender moment. And I
Speaker 3: think he balances that really well. When you sit down
Speaker 3: and talk with him, he's highly organized. He's locked in
Speaker 3: on the task at hand. This is not someone that's
Speaker 3: easily distracted. This is not someone that has a short
Speaker 3: attention span. I've talked to all of them through the years.
Speaker 3: That's the one real positive of doing this job is
Speaker 3: you get some time with them and not with a
Speaker 3: camera on and a microphone on, so odds are you're
Speaker 3: getting them a little more at ease. And Zach, to me,
Speaker 3: has really grown into this role and he's a student
Speaker 3: of it and he cares a lot that comes across
Speaker 3: every time that we sit with him.
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson had a huge game last week, two and
Speaker 2: a half sacks in Arizona. He's currently tied for second
Speaker 2: in the NFL with six. Do you consider Trey to
Speaker 2: be among the best pass rushers in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think he is.
Speaker 3: I think there's that top level that always gets notice
Speaker 3: and this happens in sports. We categorize players and coaches.
Speaker 3: It's part of what we do. And I think sports
Speaker 3: fans by nature have almost been taught this. It's learned behavior.
Speaker 3: Comparisons contrast put people in certain boxes, and Trey is
Speaker 3: probably considered on that next tier, which is still really
Speaker 3: good in the NFL. But to crack that top tier
Speaker 3: you've got to do it again and again and again.
Speaker 3: You almost have to do it in a very outward
Speaker 3: dramatic public fashion. And I don't know if Trey is
Speaker 3: ever going to be that.
Speaker 1: He just does his job. He does it really well, and.
Speaker 3: You look at his numbers at the end of the
Speaker 3: season and say, hey, this guy, he's one of the
Speaker 3: best guys doing it. So I think he's He's mentioned
Speaker 3: in that whole topic. But to get into that next year,
Speaker 3: that elite tier, that requires four, five, six years of
Speaker 3: sustained play.
Speaker 2: So the Seahawks come to town this week, and I'm
Speaker 2: not sure there is a comparison in NFL history for
Speaker 2: Geno Smith. He started his first two years with the Jets,
Speaker 2: he had thirty four interceptions, basically sat the bench for
Speaker 2: seven years, and then last year he takes over for
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson and earns Pro Bowl recognition. Are you sold
Speaker 2: on Geno Smith at this point?
Speaker 3: So we had Seattle earlier in the season, Dan and
Speaker 3: asked Pete Carroll this exact question, because I find it
Speaker 3: to be one of the best stories in the NFL,
Speaker 3: and the guys that we came up with in comparison,
Speaker 3: these are not perfect comparisons by any stretch. But Pete
Speaker 3: mentioned Steve Young that Steve strugg early in his career
Speaker 3: and then obviously excelled went to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: That to me probably is a bit extreme. Vinny Testaverdi,
Speaker 3: that's a name that came up, struggles early and then
Speaker 3: had his best years, not necessarily in his second stop,
Speaker 3: but it required his third stop with the Jets where
Speaker 3: you started to see what he could do when given
Speaker 3: all the tools around him and his experience. And Rich
Speaker 3: Gannon is another one that popped up as well. Rich
Speaker 3: and I worked together at CBS. Rich was a great partner,
Speaker 3: a terrific guy, worked his butt off to make himself
Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback and won the MVP Award later in
Speaker 3: his career as a member of the Oakland Raiders. I
Speaker 3: think Geno's writing his own story. He was given a
Speaker 3: chance early in his career with the Jets. I was
Speaker 3: doing those preseason games, so I was in those production meetings,
Speaker 3: and Gino was very confident and to me followed almost
Speaker 3: the handbook of what you're supposed to do and what
Speaker 3: you're supposed to say as a starting NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1: And now when you meet with him.
Speaker 3: I think it's even more sincere and genuine because of
Speaker 3: all of the experience that he's gotten and the guys
Speaker 3: that he's been around and waiting for his chance. He
Speaker 3: told us he never stopped believing that he was a
Speaker 3: starting quarterback. While everybody else may not have seen it,
Speaker 3: he believed it. So to answer your question, yes, I
Speaker 3: believe in him. I think it's a legitimately great NFL
Speaker 3: story and one that other quarterbacks are going to follow
Speaker 3: for many years to come in the league, Guys that
Speaker 3: either aren't getting their opportunity or let one slip away,
Speaker 3: but still hold out hope that they could maybe have
Speaker 3: an impact down the road and be the guy somewhere else.
Speaker 2: A couple more questions for my friend Ian Eagle. So
Speaker 2: the Bengals take on Seattle this week, they have a
Speaker 2: bye next week, and then a road game at San
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers or five and L. They're winning
Speaker 2: by an average of twenty points a game. Is San
Speaker 2: Francisco the team debat and what teams are in that
Speaker 2: conversation right now.
Speaker 3: It feels like Cincinnati's in the NFC West.
Speaker 1: That's how it feels for me.
Speaker 3: That's been the bulk of their schedule and then obviously
Speaker 3: that's going to come to an end when they play
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. San Francisco has been a joy
Speaker 3: to watch. That's an offense that's clicking on all cylinders. Defensively,
Speaker 3: they really get after it, and they've been doing that
Speaker 3: now for a number of years, going back to when
Speaker 3: Sala was running that defense before he got the head
Speaker 3: coaching job with the Jets, and it's still the same mentality.
Speaker 3: Brock Purdy, you want to talk about great stories. He's
Speaker 3: the last pick of the draft. He's playing at an
Speaker 3: MVP level and that doesn't happen every day. We know
Speaker 3: how hard it is in this league to find a
Speaker 3: quarterback and then believe in that quarterback. This is year
Speaker 3: two for Brock Perdy in a job that he wasn't
Speaker 3: supposed to have, and here he is excelling. They've been
Speaker 3: the best team in the NFL so far, no doubt
Speaker 3: about it. Philadelphia obviously has to be in that conversation.
Speaker 3: They're still undefeated. Kansas City. They can look like world beaters,
Speaker 3: but it's not quite the same mistique as it was.
Speaker 3: And because of that, I think there are teams in
Speaker 3: the AFC that see and opening. Buffalo has certainly played better.
Speaker 3: Cincinnati gets mentioned because of what they've done the last
Speaker 3: couple of years, They're going to have to go out
Speaker 3: and prove it. Beyond that, there feels like a drop
Speaker 3: off in the NFL, and that's what makes this league
Speaker 3: so unpredictable and so intriguing, not just year to year Dan.
Speaker 3: Week to week, you think you have a handle on
Speaker 3: things and then something happens. The two games that I
Speaker 3: did last week Thursday, I was in Landover, Maryland, and
Speaker 3: I had Chicago and Washington, and everything was lined up
Speaker 3: for the Commanders to get a win and get that
Speaker 3: extra time off and feel good about where they are
Speaker 3: and their development with Sam.
Speaker 1: How they didn't.
Speaker 3: The Bears win their first game. They looked really impressive
Speaker 3: in the first half Offensively, DJ Moore was unstoppable. Then
Speaker 3: Sunday I go to Pittsburgh. Everything about the Steelers all
Speaker 3: week had been about the offense being poor, and this
Speaker 3: team may not be able to compete with the elite teams,
Speaker 3: let alone in their division. Forget about the conference for
Speaker 3: a moment. Baltimore controls, it dominates in the first half.
Speaker 3: Mistake here, mistake there, missed opportunity and then boom, the
Speaker 3: bottom drops out safety interception. Steelers take advantage. They're now
Speaker 3: leading the division at three and two. They had no
Speaker 3: right to win the game. So to me, this is
Speaker 3: what really makes the NFL what it is. It's a
Speaker 3: reality show and every week we're finding out something new
Speaker 3: and something different that we didn't expect.
Speaker 2: Seattle comes to town at three and one. They've got
Speaker 2: three game winning streak. What are some of the keys
Speaker 2: this Sunday.
Speaker 3: Key for Cincinnati? Got to force some turnovers? Seattle has
Speaker 3: avoided it. Can you take that next step? And we
Speaker 3: saw it last week? Really good sign for this Bengals defense.
Speaker 3: I think numbers wise, I hate getting caught up in
Speaker 3: rankings through five weeks.
Speaker 1: You see trends.
Speaker 3: I believe they're better than their numbers indicate, and they
Speaker 3: will be better when the smoke clears. But can you
Speaker 3: put pressure on Geno Smith force them into a mistake.
Speaker 3: Seattle has one turnover this season.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 1: That's it. That has to.
Speaker 3: Change if you're the Cincinnati Bengals. In addition, the mar
Speaker 3: Chase show is great and it was highlight driven last week.
Speaker 3: They do have to spread it around.
Speaker 1: And the running game.
Speaker 3: If we believe in trends, it's been getting a little
Speaker 3: bit better, incremently better each week. The hope is this
Speaker 3: is the week for Cincinnati where they bust through over
Speaker 3: one hundred yards rushing and a real impact. Look, this
Speaker 3: is just from the outside looking in. I remember specifically
Speaker 3: a game that you did, a game that I did
Speaker 3: the Jets and the Bengals last year where they needed
Speaker 3: to bleed clock and secure a win. They just gave
Speaker 3: the bolt a samajp Ron over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: And it just feels like they've been missing that piece
Speaker 3: this year when they've just needed that. Maybe they find
Speaker 3: it and maybe Trevion Williams is that guy. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but that and the tight end position, you'd like to
Speaker 3: see a little more production from that. I'll put that
Speaker 3: in the keys for Sunday as well.
Speaker 2: And your schedule is crazy. I always appreciate your time
Speaker 2: when you spend a few minutes with us. Thanks so much,
Speaker 2: look forward to seeing you on Sunday. The Bengals Booth
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Speaker 2: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Last week, with
Speaker 2: t Higgins unable to play because of a fractured rib,
Speaker 2: the Bengals promoted Kwame Lassiter the second from the practice squad.
Speaker 2: It was the second time in his two NFL seasons
Speaker 2: that Kwame has been on the active roster for a game,
Speaker 2: and it was especially meaningful in this case because his dad,
Speaker 2: who passed away three years ago at the age of
Speaker 2: forty nine due to a heart attack, was a great
Speaker 2: player for the Arizona Cardinals. I talked to Kwame this week. Kwami,
Speaker 2: not only were you on the active roster for last
Speaker 2: week's team against Arizona, but you took part in the
Speaker 2: coin toss as one of the coin toss captains in
Speaker 2: the same city where your dad spent the first eight
Speaker 2: years of his NFL career. How did you get the
Speaker 2: news that you were going to be a game day captain.
Speaker 5: Oh, we got the hotel and we was going through
Speaker 5: the walkthrough and Zach called me over and told me
Speaker 5: so I was appreciated of that because my family's gonna
Speaker 5: be there. Sadly, my mom wasn't there. She's in Italy,
Speaker 5: so it's a win lose for her. But it was special.
Speaker 5: I'm appreciative of him for that.
Speaker 2: Can you describe the emotions walking out to the fifty
Speaker 2: with Logan Wilson by your side?
Speaker 5: To be honest, I was just thinking about the game.
Speaker 5: I know that was more for my family to enjoy it,
Speaker 5: but I was just thinking about the game. I knew
Speaker 5: what we were trying to do when we got out there,
Speaker 5: so I was honestly thinking about winning that football game.
Speaker 2: The story doesn't end there. With about a minute left
Speaker 2: in regulation, you caught your first regular season NFL catch.
Speaker 2: Borro takes the snap, throws it out to the right.
Speaker 2: It is caught by Kwame Lassiter. He will be tackled
Speaker 2: in bounds, but that is significant. You might be thinking,
Speaker 2: all right, why are they throwing the ball with a
Speaker 2: minute to go up by fourteen. Well, Kwame Lassiter does
Speaker 2: not have an NFL catch. His father played here for
Speaker 2: near a decade. His late dad Kwame Senior. So the
Speaker 2: Bengals made Kwame Lassiter a captain prior to the game
Speaker 2: today and they allow him to have his first ever
Speaker 2: NFL catch.
Speaker 6: That's that's a good example of how everybody feels about
Speaker 6: everybody else in the football team. I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: it's just one of those things where that's a moment
Speaker 6: this guy will remember the rest of his life and
Speaker 6: pats off to Zach Taylor and everybody else responsible for
Speaker 6: making it happen.
Speaker 2: We learned the next day that play wasn't called from
Speaker 2: the sideline. Joe Burrow checked to a pass on that
Speaker 2: play to make sure that you got to catch, and
Speaker 2: then you got a game ball after the game. What
Speaker 2: did that tell you about how your coaches and teammates
Speaker 2: feel about you.
Speaker 4: It was real solid. No, they got my bag.
Speaker 5: They knew that was a special moment for my family,
Speaker 5: and it was a special moment for Mitsu. So I
Speaker 5: got a good group around me and they're real solid.
Speaker 2: When Coach Taylor tossed to your game ball in the
Speaker 2: locker room afterward, he mentioned the fact that your late dad,
Speaker 2: Kwame had four interceptions in an NFL game, which is
Speaker 2: tied for the all time record. He's one of twenty
Speaker 2: guys to do it. I didn't realize that before Zach
Speaker 2: shared that story in the locker room. I think that
Speaker 2: was the year you were born. What have you learned
Speaker 2: about his performance in that game?
Speaker 5: So I see the highlights all the time when I
Speaker 5: was growing up, and it's on YouTube actually, so I
Speaker 5: would when I was a kid, I'd go watching them
Speaker 5: highlights on YouTube, and like you said, I wasn't born yet,
Speaker 5: or I might have just been born, so I just.
Speaker 4: Know the highlights.
Speaker 5: And he would always say like, I'm a Deefens bag,
Speaker 5: but I always got the ball in my hands, so
Speaker 5: that's kind of the thing of where I got my
Speaker 5: hands from.
Speaker 2: So we've learned that your mom was in Italy and
Speaker 2: couldn't be there last Sunday. But what friends and family
Speaker 2: did you have there and did you have a chance
Speaker 2: to visit before after the game?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had my fiance out there. I had the
Speaker 5: rest of my family out there, my cousins, brothers, so
Speaker 5: it was special. I got to see them a little
Speaker 5: bit before during warm ups because they got there early.
Speaker 5: They made sure they got there early for that one,
Speaker 5: so I got to see him a little bit before
Speaker 5: during war up warm ups, and then I seen them
Speaker 5: all after the game, and it was special.
Speaker 2: We're visiting with Kwame Lassiter. Speaking of family, I learned
Speaker 2: from broadcasting University of Cincinnati games that you have a
Speaker 2: brother who is a wide receiver at BYU. He had
Speaker 2: a touchdown catch against the Bearcats. You have another brother, Quinton,
Speaker 2: who is a defensive back at You're alma mater, Kansas.
Speaker 2: He had interceptions in each of the first two games
Speaker 2: of this season. So they're both having great years. And
Speaker 2: they played each other. Kansas played BYU last month. What
Speaker 2: was that like for you?
Speaker 4: That was a special we got.
Speaker 5: My mom got us split cut shirts, well Darius on
Speaker 5: one side and Quinn on the other side. She kept
Speaker 5: running with bad a little brothers even though we were
Speaker 5: trying to switch it to the last of the bow,
Speaker 5: but she kept running with better little brothers. And it
Speaker 5: was a great weekend for me. I was here, which
Speaker 5: is a good thing that I'm here, But I did
Speaker 5: want to be at that game. My whole family was
Speaker 5: out there for that one too. I didn't really care
Speaker 5: who won. That was the first time I would not
Speaker 5: have been mad if Kansas lost. Really, so, I do
Speaker 5: want to see my boys ball and they did for
Speaker 5: the record.
Speaker 1: Kansas squad, Yeah, it.
Speaker 5: Was a win win and and Darius. He lost, but
Speaker 5: he had a good game so and he scored.
Speaker 2: So that's a split jersey that your mom had made.
Speaker 5: So I got a split They have a split jersey.
Speaker 5: I have a split shirt just with pictures of them.
Speaker 5: And then I gotta I make sure I bought a
Speaker 5: b whye jersey because I got so much Kansas gear
Speaker 5: and Quentin Ward's eight too, so I could just throw
Speaker 5: in a jersey old school jersey. But uh yeah, I
Speaker 5: got split jerseys in BYU five and all black.
Speaker 2: All right, let's turn to the Bengals. As a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have great appreciation for the people that
Speaker 2: are masters of your craft, and Jamar Chase had one
Speaker 2: of those games last week with a team record fifteen catches.
Speaker 2: What did you respect most about that performance?
Speaker 5: You see what he can do with the ball in
Speaker 5: his hands, and uh, you know, he got a great
Speaker 5: He's a great athlete, so he can do a lot
Speaker 5: with the ball in his hands. And there was one
Speaker 5: play that stuck out to me that he's a d ball.
Speaker 5: He had a post route kind of and he is
Speaker 5: when he scored. That's a tough catch to make for
Speaker 5: a wide receiver if you don't know the game is over,
Speaker 5: the like the behind your head, and he put his
Speaker 5: hands back here and caught it.
Speaker 1: And that's impressive.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 5: It's it's a tough catch to make, but you're supposed
Speaker 5: to make the catch.
Speaker 2: In my eyes, he has numero uno for a reason.
Speaker 2: Prior to that game last week, Joe Burrow said, it's
Speaker 2: a must win, and you guys went out and delivered.
Speaker 2: What's the mindset for you and your teammates this week
Speaker 2: going into the Seattle game.
Speaker 5: I think every game is a must win, honestly, and
Speaker 5: I think the guys in there thing so too. I
Speaker 5: feel like you don't go as a game expecting to lose,
Speaker 5: So I think every game is a must win, especially
Speaker 5: with them guys and they where their head is at.
Speaker 4: I think here on out, every game is a must win.
Speaker 2: Final question for Kwame Lassiter. This is your second year
Speaker 2: on the Bengals practice squad and you're not getting rich,
Speaker 2: but it is a six figure income. How would you
Speaker 2: describe your thought process as you try to move toward
Speaker 2: more regular season opportunities.
Speaker 5: You gotta keep blessing again. You study the playbook like
Speaker 5: as you plan practice, as you plan I feel like
Speaker 5: you're supposed to do everything as you're about to play,
Speaker 5: just in case, because you know, anything happen. So I
Speaker 5: still trying to slow the game down every aspect of
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 4: And I'm just blessing the game.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to be I'm trying to be one of
Speaker 5: them greats and potentially and I feel like the guys
Speaker 5: in here.
Speaker 2: Sidesla congrats on the first of what we hope are
Speaker 2: many NFL regular season catches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, amen to that. I hear that one real.
Speaker 2: That's Kwame Glassiter. Wami will join Dave Lapham and me
Speaker 2: on the Bengals pep Rally Show this Friday. We'll be
Speaker 2: broadcasting from the Wings and Rings location in Greendale, Indiana,
Speaker 2: from three to six, and Kwame will join us for
Speaker 2: the final hour of the show. We hope to see
Speaker 2: you there. In last week's fourteen point win at Arizona,
Speaker 2: the impostor that had been wearing the Bengals number nine
Speaker 2: jersey in the first four weeks was replaced by.
Speaker 1: The real deal.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was finally able to move around as his
Speaker 2: calf continues to heal, and the result was a vintage
Speaker 2: Joey franchise performance, as he completed seventy eight percent of
Speaker 2: his passes for three hundred and seventeen yards with three
Speaker 2: touchdowns and a passer rating of one oh eight point one.
Speaker 2: Joe spoke to reporters on Wednesday and shared encouraging news
Speaker 2: about his calf.
Speaker 8: Feel good, keep getting better, So it's exciting.
Speaker 4: Is his problems close to one hundred percent?
Speaker 9: He felt since going back to before.
Speaker 1: Trying to get start by far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when he woke up the next morning from the game.
Speaker 4: Was it encouraging? How good you felt when he woke
Speaker 4: about exerting as much.
Speaker 1: As you did.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was, And I felt that way last week too,
Speaker 8: after the game. It felt it felt good after last week.
Speaker 8: So we're just getting.
Speaker 4: Better and better. On your coat, it's hard to say.
Speaker 8: I'm confident that I can. I can run around and
Speaker 8: extend and make plays right now, So tough to say
Speaker 8: percentage wise, but we're pretty close.
Speaker 7: What's the biggest difference for you physical ability to be
Speaker 7: more mobile or was it more like a mental.
Speaker 1: Thing or something else?
Speaker 8: Physical ability?
Speaker 6: Physical?
Speaker 1: What is it about that that made such a difference
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 4: On Sunday, I.
Speaker 8: Was just you know, it's feeling feeling good after, you know,
Speaker 8: the first touchdown, I figured I was gonna be confident
Speaker 8: in my calf all day, and it's it's tough. It's
Speaker 8: tough sledding. When you can't when you can't move around
Speaker 8: in the pocket, when you can't extend plays, you gotta
Speaker 8: play a certain kind of way. And so I was
Speaker 8: able to play the game the way I wanted to,
Speaker 8: the way I expected to. We were able to come
Speaker 8: out with a big win.
Speaker 4: Folks.
Speaker 2: On this week now, Dave Lapham and I discussed Burrow
Speaker 2: and his favorite target, Jamar Chase on the Bengals Game
Speaker 2: Play and Show. So Joe threw three touchdown passes last week,
Speaker 2: all to Jamar Chase. I don't know if he could
Speaker 2: have thrown any of them the previous week when his
Speaker 2: calf was still hurting. On touchdowns one in three he
Speaker 2: moved in the red zone. Yep, he hadn't been moving.
Speaker 2: Touchdown number two, he threw the ball fifty eight yards
Speaker 2: in the air where he had to really push off
Speaker 2: on the right calf. So that was pretty definitive proof
Speaker 2: that the calf is getting better.
Speaker 6: No question that fifty eight yards in the air is
Speaker 6: the longest of his career. If it had gone to
Speaker 6: the ground, it would have been well over sixty yards
Speaker 6: in the air.
Speaker 4: That's a goose in the town. They're pretty good.
Speaker 6: And like you said, getting out of pocket or climbing
Speaker 6: the pocket and changing direction in the pocket, all those
Speaker 6: kind of things. I mean, that wasn't there for Joe
Speaker 6: for the first you know, four football games, but it
Speaker 6: was there for this one, and what a difference it made.
Speaker 4: And honestly, in.
Speaker 6: Today's NFL third down red zone, quarterback mobility is a must.
Speaker 6: I mean it's, you know, the fields compressed in the
Speaker 6: red zone, it's gonna be harder to get open.
Speaker 4: And sometimes the.
Speaker 6: Play that's called, you know, is taken away and then
Speaker 6: it's like extend and create. Get receiver and quarterback on
Speaker 6: the same page. Like Joe and Jamar do so well.
Speaker 6: It's like they have mental telepthy esp. They know what
Speaker 6: each other is going to do before they really do it.
Speaker 6: It's kind of crazy, really, And actually, Joe Burrow had
Speaker 6: a fourth touchdown pass to Tyler Boyd's right that was
Speaker 6: taken away on a bogus call on Kappa. I mean,
Speaker 6: he got his hand up there maybe for a split
Speaker 6: second and My understanding of the rule is if you
Speaker 6: get your hand out of there right away, which he did.
Speaker 6: He knew he was close, so he get out of there,
Speaker 6: it's not a penalty. And I can find plays in
Speaker 6: that game where defensive players had offensive lineman's face past
Speaker 6: grab and the other way around, they weren't called in.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was unfortunate that that little bogus moved
Speaker 6: there nullified a fourth touchdown pass for Joe Burrow to
Speaker 6: Tyler Boyd. That would have been extraordinary. They had three
Speaker 6: touchdowns for the season going into the game, and they
Speaker 6: matched their total would have exceeded it if they let
Speaker 6: that one. Let that one stand. But I do think
Speaker 6: that now they can build on something. You know, it's
Speaker 6: like they're getting closer to getting back to normal. And
Speaker 6: it had to be so frustrating to Joe Burrow and
Speaker 6: the receivers to realize if I wasn't medically challenged, if
Speaker 6: I could buy us a little bit more time, we
Speaker 6: could have done so much more in those four games.
Speaker 6: But it wasn't meant to be at that point.
Speaker 2: And on the receiving end of the touchdowns was Jamar
Speaker 2: Chase and an unbelievable performance fifteen catches. That's a new
Speaker 2: Bengals single game record, one hundred and ninety two yards,
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, and he had that game by lining up
Speaker 2: and moving around all over the place. Let's hear from
Speaker 2: head coach Zach Taylor on what it took to have
Speaker 2: that kind of performance for Jamar Chase.
Speaker 9: And we've got to continue to be creative with ways
Speaker 9: to get him the ball because teams are always gonna
Speaker 9: try their best to take him away, and we that's
Speaker 9: part of our job as coach just to make sure
Speaker 9: that you can't fully take a guy away. We got
Speaker 9: to continue to be creative and find ways to get
Speaker 9: him the ball and allow him to be explosive. And
Speaker 9: it might not always be fifty eight years down the field,
Speaker 9: you know, launching the ball. It might be just trying
Speaker 9: to get him the ball and the move or get
Speaker 9: him the ball in the backfield. And he's done a
Speaker 9: great job. Again, there's never any m as from you know,
Speaker 9: miss assignments from him when he's putting those positions. He
Speaker 9: he nails it and knows how to do it, and
Speaker 9: that allows you to be a lot more flexible with
Speaker 9: how you use him and get him fifteen catches in
Speaker 9: a game because he's able to retain all the information
Speaker 9: you're throwing out of the week. I mean he's got
Speaker 9: he's got as much information as he's got to retain
Speaker 9: as any any player other than quarterback maybe over the
Speaker 9: course of the week in terms of how what position
Speaker 9: am I playing, Where am I lined up?
Speaker 4: What is my route?
Speaker 9: In this concept, he's got to do a lot lap.
Speaker 2: I think you can speak to the difficulty of what
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase did in lining up at every wide receiver spot,
Speaker 2: knowing the route you got to run from every spot
Speaker 2: going in motion a lot. In your playing days, you
Speaker 2: played every spot on the offensive line and did that
Speaker 2: in single games. It wasn't like, you know, you played
Speaker 2: left tackle one game, you played right tackle another one.
Speaker 2: There were games where you played every spot on the
Speaker 2: offensive line, which takes a tremendous amount of study and
Speaker 2: knowing the assignments. What Jamar Chase is doing is not
Speaker 2: as simple as people might think.
Speaker 6: You're right, Dan, and you know, the different positions require
Speaker 6: different skill sets too. On the outside, it's a much
Speaker 6: different route routes that you're running as opposed in the slot.
Speaker 6: You know, and like when I played all those spots
Speaker 6: Garden tackle were much different in terms of pass protection,
Speaker 6: technique and responsibility Center as well. I mean, center had
Speaker 6: a whole different set of responsibilities and techniques and everything
Speaker 6: to it. So it can if you let it, it
Speaker 6: can overwhelm you, you know, But you.
Speaker 4: Try to just do the best you can.
Speaker 6: And in putting it in a in a form that
Speaker 6: you can relate to and recall quickly. It's almost like
Speaker 6: you're studying schematics and concepts as much as you are
Speaker 6: memorizing assignments. It's always like it's it's it's better to
Speaker 6: have an understanding of if I'm an uncovered lineman, there's
Speaker 6: two or three things I'm going to have to do
Speaker 6: on this play, which one makes the most sense, you know,
Speaker 6: And so if you get in a pinch, just rely
Speaker 6: on your football instincts to take you to a to
Speaker 6: a place where you can make a call and have
Speaker 6: it work. Same type of thing with with Joe and
Speaker 6: his receivers. When plays are covered initially and they break down,
Speaker 6: now you have to understand concepts, understand where you are
Speaker 6: in the field, what things you can do to create
Speaker 6: a secondary play that the quarterback is going to be
Speaker 6: able to react to.
Speaker 4: That's not easy stuff.
Speaker 6: I mean, that takes a lot of work, a lot
Speaker 6: of timing with each other, and I admire the guys
Speaker 6: that can do it. I mean Jamar Jamar is not
Speaker 6: only physically gifted, he's mentally gifted to be able to
Speaker 6: do that. Trenton Irwin was doing is doing the same thing.
Speaker 6: You know, in his role, he has to line up
Speaker 6: everywhere and and honestly, the Bengals bring in receivers.
Speaker 4: That can do that, Yosi vash the young guys.
Speaker 6: I mean, I did a podcast with Troy Walters yesterday
Speaker 6: and he said that every single receiver in that room
Speaker 6: has to know every spot, and some are further along
Speaker 6: than others in that regard. But I mean, we played
Speaker 6: back in the seventies and eighties, it might have been
Speaker 6: one guy that could do that. If that guy get hurt,
Speaker 6: you are still back to the drawing board in terms
Speaker 6: of jeez, we can't move anybody around here. So then
Speaker 6: it'd be a second guy, but no more than two.
Speaker 6: Now it's everybody on this on this football team, And
Speaker 6: to me, it's uh, it's great because it makes life
Speaker 6: so much easier for Joe Burrow as well, because He
Speaker 6: trusts all these guys that they know their end of
Speaker 6: the bargain as well as he knows his end of
Speaker 6: the bargain. And when he sees something, he expects them
Speaker 6: to be where they're supposed to be, when they're supposed
Speaker 6: to be there, doing what they're supposed to do. And
Speaker 6: the trust level between quarterback and receiver on this football team.
Speaker 4: Is sky high. It's as good as there is in
Speaker 4: the National Football League.
Speaker 2: Every opponent the Bengals face, the number one objective on
Speaker 2: defense that take away Jamar Chase. If again, they're going
Speaker 2: to double team them or shade in his direction on
Speaker 2: virtually every snap. For him to have a game like
Speaker 2: that with fifteen catches, really about the only way to
Speaker 2: do it is to move them around the way they
Speaker 2: did absolutely.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, particularly with t Higgins down. With
Speaker 6: t Higgins down, it's like we're going to double you,
Speaker 6: and we're going to try to single up some others,
Speaker 6: maybe double Tyler Boyd, try to single up on Trent
Speaker 6: and Irwin. But the fact is, you have it's musical
Speaker 6: chairs and you don't know when the music's gonna stop.
Speaker 6: You have trenton Irwin moving around, you have Jamar Chase
Speaker 6: moving around. I mean Trent Irwin was single receiver on
Speaker 6: one side of the formation one play, he's lined up
Speaker 6: in trips. On another play he motions to slot on
Speaker 6: another and Jamar's moving around too. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 6: if you're saying, okay, what we want to do is
Speaker 6: double that guy and single that guy. But then they
Speaker 6: motion the opposite way. It's like, BOYD, now do I
Speaker 6: try to run with them?
Speaker 4: We're playing zone defense. We can't do that. We're gonna
Speaker 4: have to roll.
Speaker 6: Oh, make sure we roll to double coverage here and
Speaker 6: single up here. So your chance for the defense making
Speaker 6: a mistake based on what their original call was by formation,
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, the whole formation changes because
Speaker 6: everybody can line up everywhere. Puts a lot of pressure
Speaker 6: on the defense to make sure that they're communicating all
Speaker 6: the changes due to the shift and strength to the formation,
Speaker 6: and it's the current and everything, and it puts a
Speaker 6: lot of stress in the defense, particularly when the clock's
Speaker 6: winding down, the play clock's winding down. All that's going on, man,
Speaker 6: that's like a fire drill out there, man.
Speaker 2: And that's a good segue to the next topic because
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase did his best to dows a fire on Thursday.
Speaker 2: One of Seattle's best receivers, DK Metcalf, was asked this
Speaker 2: week what he appreciates about Jamar's game.
Speaker 10: I mean, just the long ball that I think Burrowed
Speaker 10: threw to him on like a seventy yard bomb. Just
Speaker 10: how effortlessly he caught the ball. So he's just a
Speaker 10: great receiver. Took my hat off to him with you
Speaker 10: know what he's done the first three years in the league,
Speaker 10: So you know, it'll be fun to watch Sunday, But
Speaker 10: I think it's going to get the best of them.
Speaker 2: So at the end of all of those mostly flattering comments,
Speaker 2: Metcalf said, I think Spoon will get the best of him,
Speaker 2: expressing confidence in rookie cornerback Devin Witherspoon, who is the
Speaker 2: fifth pick in this year's draft. In this day and age,
Speaker 2: that is considered to be trash talk, so reporters myself
Speaker 2: included race to get your mars reaction.
Speaker 11: He ain't doing nothing but just praising his teammate.
Speaker 1: Though you know what I'm say, that's.
Speaker 11: What he's supposed to do. At the end of the day,
Speaker 11: it's about game time. Represent game time de sitting, so
Speaker 11: he gonna get the opportunity to get his match ups
Speaker 11: and they just see who win that matchup.
Speaker 2: Like when does peop.
Speaker 4: All talk trash to you?
Speaker 11: I mean you seem to have like so much fun.
Speaker 11: I mean that sports part of the game. I expect
Speaker 11: people to talk trash to me. If you don't talk trash,
Speaker 11: you don't like football. But I'm usually one talking first,
Speaker 11: so so I don't think they have time to talk
Speaker 11: about there.
Speaker 1: Do you like enjoy it?
Speaker 11: Or does it start laughing first? I haven't heard anything
Speaker 11: that's like really like damn you said that?
Speaker 2: Is there a line you can't cross when the trash start?
Speaker 11: There is no line trash talking for no, No, there's
Speaker 11: no rules to it. That's why I stalled trash talking.
Speaker 11: So how does it work since whether spentiff talk track
Speaker 11: persons to.
Speaker 7: Make talk more.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why I ain't say nothing until he says something.
Speaker 11: I'll say something, but is DK I'm not lynched. I'm
Speaker 11: not checking DK, DK not checking me. You know what
Speaker 11: I'm saying. He just saying what you want to say
Speaker 11: at the end of day, so which they just spice
Speaker 11: it up the game, Like what I said against Cleveland
Speaker 11: just spicing up the game a little bit and make
Speaker 11: NH making us have more energy coming into the game.
Speaker 2: Follow this, Oddly enough, Witherspoon might not be the primary
Speaker 2: person covering Chase. The Seahawks also have Tariq the Freak Woollen,
Speaker 2: who is six ' four, ran a four to two
Speaker 2: six forty at the combine and had six interceptions as
Speaker 2: a rookie last year, the most of any NFL cornerback. Finally,
Speaker 2: time for this week's Know the Faux segment. The radio
Speaker 2: voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, joined Lapping Me on
Speaker 2: the Bengals Game Plan Show this week, and I started
Speaker 2: our conversation by asking him about QB Geno Smith, who
Speaker 2: took over for Russell Wilson last year and went to
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl after basically sitting the bench for the
Speaker 2: previous seven seasons. I asked Steve, at what point last
Speaker 2: year he started to think that Geno Smith could be
Speaker 2: a quality starting quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 7: You know, it might have even taken place the year
Speaker 7: before that, Dan and that was when Russ broke his
Speaker 7: finger and missed four games and Gino came in, and
Speaker 7: you know, we kind of didn't play well around him
Speaker 7: a couple of those games, but then a couple of
Speaker 7: them he really lit it up, and it was a
Speaker 7: parent that he you know, he got it, He knew
Speaker 7: the offense, and and he still had obviously a really
Speaker 7: good arm. What we didn't all know was could he
Speaker 7: protect himself in the pocket. We were so used to
Speaker 7: seeing Russ being able to get up and take off,
Speaker 7: move around, throw on the run. But could Gino do
Speaker 7: those things? Could he command the huddle like a starter
Speaker 7: has to do, And it had been a long time
Speaker 7: that he had done that. Well, he did all those
Speaker 7: things and amaze everybody but the guys on the team
Speaker 7: and the coaches because they saw it every day.
Speaker 4: They saw how.
Speaker 7: He prepared every day they knew and even during training
Speaker 7: camp of last year, Pete would, you know, pull me
Speaker 7: in a few of the guys aside and say, listen,
Speaker 7: if you don't watch Gino every single day, you're not
Speaker 7: really knowing the full story of how prepared he is
Speaker 7: and how well he's going to play. I don't think
Speaker 7: there was ever any doubt in Pete's mind as they
Speaker 7: got into preseason a year ago and then the start
Speaker 7: of the regular season that Gino was going to do
Speaker 7: his job.
Speaker 6: So Steve, turnovers are huge at any level of football.
Speaker 6: I mean, watching my grandson play pee wee football. When
Speaker 6: they turn it over, they lose the football game. When
Speaker 6: they don't, they got a chance.
Speaker 4: For a football team to not only haven't.
Speaker 6: Lost a fumble, they're one of four teams that haven't
Speaker 6: lost a fumble, but think the only team in the
Speaker 6: NFL that hasn't put it on the ground once in
Speaker 6: four that's very very unusual. One give one interception by
Speaker 6: Gino Smith one giveaway on the season is best in
Speaker 6: the National Football League as well. Obviously, obviously it's a
Speaker 6: it's a it's a focus and when in the plus
Speaker 6: department since twenty ten and turnovers eighty five and nineteen,
Speaker 6: that's that's pretty good. I mean, is it is it
Speaker 6: a big deal? Do they work on that part of things,
Speaker 6: ball security turnovers all the time?
Speaker 7: I mean it's it's literally every day that not only
Speaker 7: do they work on it, but that he talks about it.
Speaker 7: You know, I interview him twice during the course of
Speaker 7: the week, one on one for different segments of our broadcast.
Speaker 7: And if he doesn't stick in there somewhere that it's
Speaker 7: all about the ball. Then, you know, I feel like
Speaker 7: I haven't done my job to kind of to kind
Speaker 7: of get him to say those because he is just
Speaker 7: so much about what it means to be able to
Speaker 7: take the ball away and not turn it over. You know,
Speaker 7: with plus after four games, you know, San Francisco is
Speaker 7: only plus seven. And in my estimation after watching them
Speaker 7: now for a couple of weeks, they're the best team
Speaker 7: in football. I don't care if you're the Chiefs, I
Speaker 7: don't care if for the Eagles. No offense to the Bengals,
Speaker 7: but San Francisco looks like the real deal. And then
Speaker 7: come to me, as you said, we've given it away
Speaker 7: once and we're a plus five. You win football games
Speaker 7: if you do that, and if you can protect the ball,
Speaker 7: and our running backs are really solid with it, our
Speaker 7: receivers they don't cough it up when they get hit.
Speaker 7: And we're just now really getting into I think, a
Speaker 7: real kind of nice run, you know how they come
Speaker 7: in bunches. I think we're getting into that phase right
Speaker 7: here where we might see a couple more in the
Speaker 7: next few weeks. I know that's what they're sure hoping for.
Speaker 2: We are visiting with the voice of the Seahawks Steve Rabel.
Speaker 2: Seattle is three and one. They got a three game
Speaker 2: winning streak, and they're doing it despite some pretty significant
Speaker 2: injury issues so far this year. Jamal Adams has been out,
Speaker 2: the starting right tackle has been out. Former UC Bear
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant's missed the last couple of games. What are
Speaker 2: some of the biggest injury question marks going into this
Speaker 2: week's game from Seattle's perspective, You.
Speaker 7: Know, it's not question marks now, it's sort of, you know,
Speaker 7: sigh of relief. Some of these guys are going to
Speaker 7: start coming back now how quickly, and for this week,
Speaker 7: I think maybe a couple of them will be back.
Speaker 7: We're hoping that Charles Cross, our big tackle on the
Speaker 7: left side, will be back. But then again, we got
Speaker 7: a couple of the guards hurt last week in that game,
Speaker 7: that Monday night game in New York. They may or
Speaker 7: may not be ready to play. Abe Lucas, our right tackle,
Speaker 7: still has another game out on the IR so he's
Speaker 7: still got one more to go. I think a couple
Speaker 7: of things. First of all, back in the day when
Speaker 7: Dave and I played, and that's you know, back before
Speaker 7: they had microphones and plastic for helmets, and we really
Speaker 7: did use the flatterer. We really did use the bladder
Speaker 7: of a pig to play the game. But in those days, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, the whole idea get that starting group together
Speaker 7: and they play all the time, and if you had
Speaker 7: to stick somebody in there, uh, it was you know,
Speaker 7: oftentimes it was a real issue for you. The best
Speaker 7: thing that happened to the Seahawks early in the season
Speaker 7: was that if guys were going to go down, they
Speaker 7: went down, and they plugged right in with these young
Speaker 7: especially young offensive linemens and a couple of young defensive backs,
Speaker 7: and those guys stepped up and played. And that only
Speaker 7: can pay dividends for you as the season goes on.
Speaker 7: So I don't think Pete batter than I. He was
Speaker 7: a little bit concerned, but yeah, these guys have stepped
Speaker 7: up and done a great job. I think we're going
Speaker 7: to have Jamal back. I'm pretty sure we will. You know,
Speaker 7: he's out of cushion protocol. Gino Hurd his be a
Speaker 7: little bit on a rough tackle. He practiced right away
Speaker 7: starting on Monday, so he'll be fine. So I think
Speaker 7: we're actually in better shape, maybe than we were going
Speaker 7: into New York.
Speaker 4: He wasn't happy about that tackle, There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 4: He thought that was a little bit dirty, didn't he.
Speaker 7: I mean this, yeah, you know, and back in the day,
Speaker 7: that was just the tackle. In fact, you know, it
Speaker 7: was nothing to it then, And I think even Gino
Speaker 7: walked it back a little bit in the locker room.
Speaker 7: He sort of wasn't happy about the way it happened
Speaker 7: and the guy fell on the back of his leg.
Speaker 7: But you know, shoot that those things happened. That's the game,
Speaker 7: you know, So you don't have to be happy about it.
Speaker 7: Just don't get hurt, get back out there and throw
Speaker 7: a couple of dutchdowns.
Speaker 6: My question is a lot of times first down success
Speaker 6: leads to third down success. It's so disjointed with Seattle
Speaker 6: great on first down. Offensively six point one yards per play,
Speaker 6: eighth best in the league on first down, it's not
Speaker 6: converting on third down twenty eight point nine percent, thirty
Speaker 6: first in the league. Defensively, four point twenty seven yards
Speaker 6: per playing first down, second best in the league. Not
Speaker 6: converting on third down fifty two point four conversion percent,
Speaker 6: it's thirty first.
Speaker 4: In the league.
Speaker 6: What what What's what gives there? I guess I'm just
Speaker 6: a little confused by those numbers. They don't they don't
Speaker 6: jive for me.
Speaker 7: We have a production meeting for our broadcast every Wednesday,
Speaker 7: when we go over and we talk to players and
Speaker 7: we talk to Peach and we talked about that today,
Speaker 7: trying to figure out why is this the case and
Speaker 7: how you're right, how kind of disjointed that is. One
Speaker 7: of the things we sort of came up with is uh.
Speaker 7: And I'm not giving away anything that you know you
Speaker 7: can't see on film, but we're on third down conversion.
Speaker 7: One of the things we're not really doing, especially on
Speaker 7: third and shorts, we're not moving guys off the line
Speaker 7: of scrimmage. It's amazing that we have running lanes first
Speaker 7: and second down, or we go on first down for
Speaker 7: eight yards and then we have some running lanes on
Speaker 7: second down. But it seems like when we get up
Speaker 7: there and we absolutely have to have it and we
Speaker 7: have to run that the other guys or suddenly the
Speaker 7: defensive line is playing on our side of the line
Speaker 7: of scrimmage and that's not a good thing. Uh. And
Speaker 7: I think also Ken Walker, our second year running back,
Speaker 7: who is just just a treat, just phenomenal. Is as
Speaker 7: good a kid as he is a football player. But
Speaker 7: what he tends to do sometimes is, you know, he'll
Speaker 7: lose a yard to pick up three yards. He'll slide
Speaker 7: down the line of scrimmage and look for a crease
Speaker 7: when there's no crease there, and especially when you need
Speaker 7: to go straight ahead. I think they need to again
Speaker 7: continue to work on that. Just the power blocking up front.
Speaker 7: You know, we're not much of his own blocking team.
Speaker 7: We like to get you know, get a hat on
Speaker 7: a hat and push people and I think I think
Speaker 7: we're going to get better at that. And listen, one
Speaker 7: of our best capt secrets, although he's not a great
Speaker 7: secret anymore, is Zach Sharbonay, the rookie out of UCLA.
Speaker 7: This guy is a battering ram and he can also
Speaker 7: catch the ball out of the backfield. He is fun
Speaker 7: to watch, So watch him a little more now, maybe
Speaker 7: in those second and short, third and short situation.
Speaker 2: Our thanks to Steve Rabel, and that's going to do
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