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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.

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Speaker 2: The You Go Hoo Back Jack Do It Again addition,

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Speaker 2: as the Bengals look for their second straight win and

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Speaker 2: try to even the record at three and three as

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Speaker 2: they host the Seattle Seahawks. Coming up, I'll visit with

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Speaker 2: Iron Eagle, who will broadcast the game for CBS. My

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Speaker 2: one on one player interview is with Kwame Lassiter, the

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Speaker 2: second who received a game ball last week in the

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Speaker 2: city where his late father spent most of his NFL career.

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Speaker 2: Dave Lappam will join me to discuss Joe Burrow's significantly

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Speaker 2: improve mobility and how Jamar Chase caught fifteen passes despite

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals trying to double team him whenever possible. And finally,

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Speaker 2: in our no The Faux segment, we'll get the latest

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Speaker 2: on the Seahawks from their longtime radio voice, Steve Rabel.

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Speaker 2: greatest thing since the Sinsy Hat. If you've seen Ted

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Speaker 2: Now time for my first guest. He is the father

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Speaker 2: of rising broadcasting star Noah Eagle and he will be

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Speaker 2: in the booth this Sunday for CBS to call the

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Speaker 2: Bengals Seahawks game. My buddy I and Eagle. I and

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow called last week's game in Arizona a must

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Speaker 2: win and then he delivered. What did you think of

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Speaker 2: Joe's performance and the Bengals victory over the Cardinals last week?

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Speaker 3: Most importantly, it looked like Joe Burrow previous weeks that

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Speaker 3: was not the guy that we had seen in his

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Speaker 3: storyline of all that Joe Burrow is healthy and Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow looks the part once again. Give him a lot

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Speaker 3: of credit for going out there with his teammates, for

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Speaker 3: having the pride in which to go and play and

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Speaker 3: I know that he's a competitor, no one will ever

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. The first few weeks we saw the real

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Speaker 2: He stood up last week and you were there in

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Speaker 2: Week one with Charles Davis to call the game in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: It obviously did not go well for Cincinnati. What were

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Speaker 1: Shock more than anything else.

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Speaker 3: Look, the element certainly played a role, and I think

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Speaker 3: that's always an issue that teams have to handle, and

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Speaker 3: that was the oh wow moment. He's back, And if

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Speaker 3: are back. It doesn't mean that it solves all of

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Speaker 3: to in this league. Maintaining excellence is really challenging in

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Speaker 1: We're visiting with Ian Egel.

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Speaker 2: There are a bunch of great wide receivers in the

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Speaker 3: It's almost effortless in how he goes about his business,

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Speaker 3: his versatility. You could put him anywhere on the field.

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Speaker 3: You want to work him on the outside, great. You

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, that's real. That's not him trying to create

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Speaker 1: He is definitely right.

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Speaker 2: You've done quite a few Bengals games in recent years

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Speaker 2: and you always have the opportunity to meet with Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor before the game. What stands out about his leadership

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Speaker 3: He's really thorough and there is no minute detail that

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Speaker 3: it says a lot about where we are with modern coaches.

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Speaker 3: It's been a different job. It's not just x's and

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Speaker 3: think he balances that really well. When you sit down

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Speaker 3: That's the one real positive of doing this job is

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson had a huge game last week, two and

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Speaker 3: I think there's that top level that always gets notice

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Speaker 3: Comparisons contrast put people in certain boxes, and Trey is

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Speaker 3: probably considered on that next tier, which is still really

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Speaker 1: He just does his job. He does it really well, and.

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Speaker 2: So the Seahawks come to town this week, and I'm

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Speaker 3: So we had Seattle earlier in the season, Dan and

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Speaker 3: think Geno's writing his own story. He was given a

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Speaker 1: And now when you meet with him.

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Speaker 3: I think it's even more sincere and genuine because of

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Speaker 2: A couple more questions for my friend Ian Eagle. So

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Speaker 2: the Bengals take on Seattle this week, they have a

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Speaker 2: by an average of twenty points a game. Is San

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Speaker 3: It feels like Cincinnati's in the NFC West.

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Speaker 1: That's how it feels for me.

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Speaker 3: That's been the bulk of their schedule and then obviously

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. San Francisco has been a joy

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Speaker 3: Key for Cincinnati? Got to force some turnovers? Seattle has

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Speaker 2: And your schedule is crazy. I always appreciate your time

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Speaker 2: the Bengals promoted Kwame Lassiter the second from the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: It was the second time in his two NFL seasons

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Speaker 5: To be honest, I was just thinking about the game.

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Speaker 2: We learned the next day that play wasn't called from

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Speaker 4: It was real solid. No, they got my bag.

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Speaker 5: They knew that was a special moment for my family,

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Speaker 4: That was a special we got.

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Speaker 5: My mom got us split cut shirts, well Darius on

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Speaker 2: So that's a split jersey that your mom had made.

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Speaker 5: So I got a split They have a split jersey.

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Speaker 5: You see what he can do with the ball in

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Speaker 5: It's it's a tough catch to make, but you're supposed

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Speaker 5: to make the catch.

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Speaker 2: In my eyes, he has numero uno for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Prior to that game last week, Joe Burrow said, it's

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Speaker 2: a must win, and you guys went out and delivered.

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Speaker 2: What's the mindset for you and your teammates this week

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Speaker 2: going into the Seattle game.

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Speaker 5: I think every game is a must win, honestly, and

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Speaker 5: I think the guys in there thing so too. I

447
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Speaker 5: feel like you don't go as a game expecting to lose,

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Speaker 5: So I think every game is a must win, especially

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Speaker 5: with them guys and they where their head is at.

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Speaker 4: I think here on out, every game is a must win.

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Speaker 2: Final question for Kwame Lassiter. This is your second year

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Speaker 2: on the Bengals practice squad and you're not getting rich,

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Speaker 2: but it is a six figure income. How would you

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Speaker 2: describe your thought process as you try to move toward

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Speaker 2: more regular season opportunities.

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Speaker 5: You gotta keep blessing again. You study the playbook like

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Speaker 5: as you plan practice, as you plan I feel like

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Speaker 5: you're supposed to do everything as you're about to play,

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Speaker 5: just in case, because you know, anything happen. So I

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Speaker 5: still trying to slow the game down every aspect of

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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just blessing the game.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to be I'm trying to be one of

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Speaker 5: them greats and potentially and I feel like the guys

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Speaker 5: in here.

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Speaker 2: Sidesla congrats on the first of what we hope are

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Speaker 2: many NFL regular season catches.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, amen to that. I hear that one real.

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Speaker 2: That's Kwame Glassiter. Wami will join Dave Lapham and me

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Speaker 2: on the Bengals pep Rally Show this Friday. We'll be

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Speaker 2: broadcasting from the Wings and Rings location in Greendale, Indiana,

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Speaker 2: from three to six, and Kwame will join us for

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Speaker 2: the final hour of the show. We hope to see

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Speaker 2: you there. In last week's fourteen point win at Arizona,

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Speaker 2: the impostor that had been wearing the Bengals number nine

477
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Speaker 2: jersey in the first four weeks was replaced by.

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Speaker 1: The real deal.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was finally able to move around as his

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Speaker 2: calf continues to heal, and the result was a vintage

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Speaker 2: Joey franchise performance, as he completed seventy eight percent of

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Speaker 2: his passes for three hundred and seventeen yards with three

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Speaker 2: touchdowns and a passer rating of one oh eight point one.

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Speaker 2: Joe spoke to reporters on Wednesday and shared encouraging news

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Speaker 2: about his calf.

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Speaker 8: Feel good, keep getting better, So it's exciting.

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Speaker 4: Is his problems close to one hundred percent?

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Speaker 9: He felt since going back to before.

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Speaker 1: Trying to get start by far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when he woke up the next morning from the game.

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Speaker 4: Was it encouraging? How good you felt when he woke

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Speaker 4: about exerting as much.

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Speaker 1: As you did.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was, And I felt that way last week too,

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Speaker 8: after the game. It felt it felt good after last week.

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Speaker 8: So we're just getting.

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Speaker 4: Better and better. On your coat, it's hard to say.

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Speaker 8: I'm confident that I can. I can run around and

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Speaker 8: extend and make plays right now, So tough to say

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Speaker 8: percentage wise, but we're pretty close.

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Speaker 7: What's the biggest difference for you physical ability to be

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Speaker 7: more mobile or was it more like a mental.

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Speaker 1: Thing or something else?

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Speaker 8: Physical ability?

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Speaker 6: Physical?

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Speaker 1: What is it about that that made such a difference

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Speaker 1: for you?

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Speaker 4: On Sunday, I.

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Speaker 8: Was just you know, it's feeling feeling good after, you know,

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Speaker 8: the first touchdown, I figured I was gonna be confident

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Speaker 8: in my calf all day, and it's it's tough. It's

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Speaker 8: tough sledding. When you can't when you can't move around

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Speaker 8: in the pocket, when you can't extend plays, you gotta

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Speaker 8: play a certain kind of way. And so I was

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Speaker 8: able to play the game the way I wanted to,

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Speaker 8: the way I expected to. We were able to come

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Speaker 8: out with a big win.

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Speaker 4: Folks.

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Speaker 2: On this week now, Dave Lapham and I discussed Burrow

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Speaker 2: and his favorite target, Jamar Chase on the Bengals Game

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Speaker 2: Play and Show. So Joe threw three touchdown passes last week,

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Speaker 2: all to Jamar Chase. I don't know if he could

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Speaker 2: have thrown any of them the previous week when his

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Speaker 2: calf was still hurting. On touchdowns one in three he

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Speaker 2: moved in the red zone. Yep, he hadn't been moving.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown number two, he threw the ball fifty eight yards

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Speaker 2: in the air where he had to really push off

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Speaker 2: on the right calf. So that was pretty definitive proof

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Speaker 2: that the calf is getting better.

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Speaker 6: No question that fifty eight yards in the air is

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Speaker 6: the longest of his career. If it had gone to

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Speaker 6: the ground, it would have been well over sixty yards

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Speaker 6: in the air.

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Speaker 4: That's a goose in the town. They're pretty good.

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Speaker 6: And like you said, getting out of pocket or climbing

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Speaker 6: the pocket and changing direction in the pocket, all those

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Speaker 6: kind of things. I mean, that wasn't there for Joe

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Speaker 6: for the first you know, four football games, but it

539
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Speaker 6: was there for this one, and what a difference it made.

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Speaker 4: And honestly, in.

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Speaker 6: Today's NFL third down red zone, quarterback mobility is a must.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's, you know, the fields compressed in the

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Speaker 6: red zone, it's gonna be harder to get open.

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Speaker 4: And sometimes the.

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Speaker 6: Play that's called, you know, is taken away and then

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Speaker 6: it's like extend and create. Get receiver and quarterback on

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Speaker 6: the same page. Like Joe and Jamar do so well.

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Speaker 6: It's like they have mental telepthy esp. They know what

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Speaker 6: each other is going to do before they really do it.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of crazy, really, And actually, Joe Burrow had

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Speaker 6: a fourth touchdown pass to Tyler Boyd's right that was

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Speaker 6: taken away on a bogus call on Kappa. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he got his hand up there maybe for a split

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Speaker 6: second and My understanding of the rule is if you

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Speaker 6: get your hand out of there right away, which he did.

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Speaker 6: He knew he was close, so he get out of there,

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Speaker 6: it's not a penalty. And I can find plays in

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Speaker 6: that game where defensive players had offensive lineman's face past

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Speaker 6: grab and the other way around, they weren't called in.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it was unfortunate that that little bogus moved

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Speaker 6: there nullified a fourth touchdown pass for Joe Burrow to

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Speaker 6: Tyler Boyd. That would have been extraordinary. They had three

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Speaker 6: touchdowns for the season going into the game, and they

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Speaker 6: matched their total would have exceeded it if they let

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Speaker 6: that one. Let that one stand. But I do think

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Speaker 6: that now they can build on something. You know, it's

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Speaker 6: like they're getting closer to getting back to normal. And

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Speaker 6: it had to be so frustrating to Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 6: the receivers to realize if I wasn't medically challenged, if

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Speaker 6: I could buy us a little bit more time, we

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Speaker 6: could have done so much more in those four games.

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Speaker 6: But it wasn't meant to be at that point.

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Speaker 2: And on the receiving end of the touchdowns was Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase and an unbelievable performance fifteen catches. That's a new

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Speaker 2: Bengals single game record, one hundred and ninety two yards,

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Speaker 2: three touchdowns, and he had that game by lining up

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Speaker 2: and moving around all over the place. Let's hear from

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Speaker 2: head coach Zach Taylor on what it took to have

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Speaker 2: that kind of performance for Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 9: And we've got to continue to be creative with ways

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Speaker 9: to get him the ball because teams are always gonna

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Speaker 9: try their best to take him away, and we that's

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Speaker 9: part of our job as coach just to make sure

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Speaker 9: that you can't fully take a guy away. We got

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Speaker 9: to continue to be creative and find ways to get

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Speaker 9: him the ball and allow him to be explosive. And

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Speaker 9: it might not always be fifty eight years down the field,

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Speaker 9: you know, launching the ball. It might be just trying

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Speaker 9: to get him the ball and the move or get

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Speaker 9: him the ball in the backfield. And he's done a

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Speaker 9: great job. Again, there's never any m as from you know,

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Speaker 9: miss assignments from him when he's putting those positions. He

593
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Speaker 9: he nails it and knows how to do it, and

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Speaker 9: that allows you to be a lot more flexible with

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Speaker 9: how you use him and get him fifteen catches in

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Speaker 9: a game because he's able to retain all the information

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Speaker 9: you're throwing out of the week. I mean he's got

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Speaker 9: he's got as much information as he's got to retain

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Speaker 9: as any any player other than quarterback maybe over the

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Speaker 9: course of the week in terms of how what position

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Speaker 9: am I playing, Where am I lined up?

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Speaker 4: What is my route?

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Speaker 9: In this concept, he's got to do a lot lap.

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Speaker 2: I think you can speak to the difficulty of what

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase did in lining up at every wide receiver spot,

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Speaker 2: knowing the route you got to run from every spot

607
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Speaker 2: going in motion a lot. In your playing days, you

608
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Speaker 2: played every spot on the offensive line and did that

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Speaker 2: in single games. It wasn't like, you know, you played

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Speaker 2: left tackle one game, you played right tackle another one.

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Speaker 2: There were games where you played every spot on the

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Speaker 2: offensive line, which takes a tremendous amount of study and

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Speaker 2: knowing the assignments. What Jamar Chase is doing is not

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Speaker 2: as simple as people might think.

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Speaker 6: You're right, Dan, and you know, the different positions require

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Speaker 6: different skill sets too. On the outside, it's a much

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Speaker 6: different route routes that you're running as opposed in the slot.

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Speaker 6: You know, and like when I played all those spots

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Speaker 6: Garden tackle were much different in terms of pass protection,

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Speaker 6: technique and responsibility Center as well. I mean, center had

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Speaker 6: a whole different set of responsibilities and techniques and everything

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Speaker 6: to it. So it can if you let it, it

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Speaker 6: can overwhelm you, you know, But you.

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Speaker 4: Try to just do the best you can.

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Speaker 6: And in putting it in a in a form that

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Speaker 6: you can relate to and recall quickly. It's almost like

627
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 6: you're studying schematics and concepts as much as you are

628
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Speaker 6: memorizing assignments. It's always like it's it's it's better to

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Speaker 6: have an understanding of if I'm an uncovered lineman, there's

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Speaker 6: two or three things I'm going to have to do

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Speaker 6: on this play, which one makes the most sense, you know,

632
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Speaker 6: And so if you get in a pinch, just rely

633
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Speaker 6: on your football instincts to take you to a to

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Speaker 6: a place where you can make a call and have

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Speaker 6: it work. Same type of thing with with Joe and

636
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Speaker 6: his receivers. When plays are covered initially and they break down,

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Speaker 6: now you have to understand concepts, understand where you are

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Speaker 6: in the field, what things you can do to create

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Speaker 6: a secondary play that the quarterback is going to be

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Speaker 6: able to react to.

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Speaker 4: That's not easy stuff.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that takes a lot of work, a lot

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Speaker 6: of timing with each other, and I admire the guys

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Speaker 6: that can do it. I mean Jamar Jamar is not

645
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Speaker 6: only physically gifted, he's mentally gifted to be able to

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Speaker 6: do that. Trenton Irwin was doing is doing the same thing.

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Speaker 6: You know, in his role, he has to line up

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Speaker 6: everywhere and and honestly, the Bengals bring in receivers.

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Speaker 4: That can do that, Yosi vash the young guys.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I did a podcast with Troy Walters yesterday

651
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Speaker 6: and he said that every single receiver in that room

652
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Speaker 6: has to know every spot, and some are further along

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Speaker 6: than others in that regard. But I mean, we played

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Speaker 6: back in the seventies and eighties, it might have been

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Speaker 6: one guy that could do that. If that guy get hurt,

656
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Speaker 6: you are still back to the drawing board in terms

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Speaker 6: of jeez, we can't move anybody around here. So then

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Speaker 6: it'd be a second guy, but no more than two.

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Speaker 6: Now it's everybody on this on this football team, And

660
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 6: to me, it's uh, it's great because it makes life

661
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 6: so much easier for Joe Burrow as well, because He

662
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 6: trusts all these guys that they know their end of

663
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Speaker 6: the bargain as well as he knows his end of

664
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Speaker 6: the bargain. And when he sees something, he expects them

665
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 6: to be where they're supposed to be, when they're supposed

666
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 6: to be there, doing what they're supposed to do. And

667
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 6: the trust level between quarterback and receiver on this football team.

668
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: Is sky high. It's as good as there is in

669
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Speaker 4: the National Football League.

670
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: Every opponent the Bengals face, the number one objective on

671
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: defense that take away Jamar Chase. If again, they're going

672
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: to double team them or shade in his direction on

673
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Speaker 2: virtually every snap. For him to have a game like

674
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Speaker 2: that with fifteen catches, really about the only way to

675
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Speaker 2: do it is to move them around the way they

676
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: did absolutely.

677
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, particularly with t Higgins down. With

678
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 6: t Higgins down, it's like we're going to double you,

679
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: and we're going to try to single up some others,

680
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 6: maybe double Tyler Boyd, try to single up on Trent

681
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 6: and Irwin. But the fact is, you have it's musical

682
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 6: chairs and you don't know when the music's gonna stop.

683
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 6: You have trenton Irwin moving around, you have Jamar Chase

684
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 6: moving around. I mean Trent Irwin was single receiver on

685
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 6: one side of the formation one play, he's lined up

686
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 6: in trips. On another play he motions to slot on

687
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: another and Jamar's moving around too. It's like, I mean,

688
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 6: if you're saying, okay, what we want to do is

689
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 6: double that guy and single that guy. But then they

690
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 6: motion the opposite way. It's like, BOYD, now do I

691
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 6: try to run with them?

692
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 4: We're playing zone defense. We can't do that. We're gonna

693
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: have to roll.

694
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 6: Oh, make sure we roll to double coverage here and

695
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 6: single up here. So your chance for the defense making

696
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 6: a mistake based on what their original call was by formation,

697
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, the whole formation changes because

698
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 6: everybody can line up everywhere. Puts a lot of pressure

699
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 6: on the defense to make sure that they're communicating all

700
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 6: the changes due to the shift and strength to the formation,

701
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Speaker 6: and it's the current and everything, and it puts a

702
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Speaker 6: lot of stress in the defense, particularly when the clock's

703
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 6: winding down, the play clock's winding down. All that's going on, man,

704
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 6: that's like a fire drill out there, man.

705
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 2: And that's a good segue to the next topic because

706
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase did his best to dows a fire on Thursday.

707
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: One of Seattle's best receivers, DK Metcalf, was asked this

708
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: week what he appreciates about Jamar's game.

709
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 10: I mean, just the long ball that I think Burrowed

710
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 10: threw to him on like a seventy yard bomb. Just

711
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 10: how effortlessly he caught the ball. So he's just a

712
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 10: great receiver. Took my hat off to him with you

713
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 10: know what he's done the first three years in the league,

714
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Speaker 10: So you know, it'll be fun to watch Sunday, But

715
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Speaker 10: I think it's going to get the best of them.

716
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Speaker 2: So at the end of all of those mostly flattering comments,

717
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: Metcalf said, I think Spoon will get the best of him,

718
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: expressing confidence in rookie cornerback Devin Witherspoon, who is the

719
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: fifth pick in this year's draft. In this day and age,

720
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Speaker 2: that is considered to be trash talk, so reporters myself

721
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: included race to get your mars reaction.

722
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Speaker 11: He ain't doing nothing but just praising his teammate.

723
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: Though you know what I'm say, that's.

724
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Speaker 11: What he's supposed to do. At the end of the day,

725
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 11: it's about game time. Represent game time de sitting, so

726
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 11: he gonna get the opportunity to get his match ups

727
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 11: and they just see who win that matchup.

728
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: Like when does peop.

729
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 4: All talk trash to you?

730
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Speaker 11: I mean you seem to have like so much fun.

731
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 11: I mean that sports part of the game. I expect

732
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 11: people to talk trash to me. If you don't talk trash,

733
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 11: you don't like football. But I'm usually one talking first,

734
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 11: so so I don't think they have time to talk

735
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 11: about there.

736
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Speaker 1: Do you like enjoy it?

737
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 11: Or does it start laughing first? I haven't heard anything

738
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 11: that's like really like damn you said that?

739
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: Is there a line you can't cross when the trash start?

740
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 11: There is no line trash talking for no, No, there's

741
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 11: no rules to it. That's why I stalled trash talking.

742
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 11: So how does it work since whether spentiff talk track

743
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 11: persons to.

744
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 7: Make talk more.

745
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why I ain't say nothing until he says something.

746
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 11: I'll say something, but is DK I'm not lynched. I'm

747
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 11: not checking DK, DK not checking me. You know what

748
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 11: I'm saying. He just saying what you want to say

749
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 11: at the end of day, so which they just spice

750
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 11: it up the game, Like what I said against Cleveland

751
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 11: just spicing up the game a little bit and make

752
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 11: NH making us have more energy coming into the game.

753
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Speaker 2: Follow this, Oddly enough, Witherspoon might not be the primary

754
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: person covering Chase. The Seahawks also have Tariq the Freak Woollen,

755
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 2: who is six ' four, ran a four to two

756
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: six forty at the combine and had six interceptions as

757
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: a rookie last year, the most of any NFL cornerback. Finally,

758
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: time for this week's Know the Faux segment. The radio

759
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, joined Lapping Me on

760
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: the Bengals Game Plan Show this week, and I started

761
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Speaker 2: our conversation by asking him about QB Geno Smith, who

762
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Speaker 2: took over for Russell Wilson last year and went to

763
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Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl after basically sitting the bench for the

764
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: previous seven seasons. I asked Steve, at what point last

765
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: year he started to think that Geno Smith could be

766
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Speaker 2: a quality starting quarterback in the NFL.

767
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Speaker 7: You know, it might have even taken place the year

768
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 7: before that, Dan and that was when Russ broke his

769
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 7: finger and missed four games and Gino came in, and

770
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Speaker 7: you know, we kind of didn't play well around him

771
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 7: a couple of those games, but then a couple of

772
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Speaker 7: them he really lit it up, and it was a

773
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Speaker 7: parent that he you know, he got it, He knew

774
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Speaker 7: the offense, and and he still had obviously a really

775
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Speaker 7: good arm. What we didn't all know was could he

776
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Speaker 7: protect himself in the pocket. We were so used to

777
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Speaker 7: seeing Russ being able to get up and take off,

778
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 7: move around, throw on the run. But could Gino do

779
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 7: those things? Could he command the huddle like a starter

780
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 7: has to do, And it had been a long time

781
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 7: that he had done that. Well, he did all those

782
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 7: things and amaze everybody but the guys on the team

783
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 7: and the coaches because they saw it every day.

784
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: They saw how.

785
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 7: He prepared every day they knew and even during training

786
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 7: camp of last year, Pete would, you know, pull me

787
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Speaker 7: in a few of the guys aside and say, listen,

788
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 7: if you don't watch Gino every single day, you're not

789
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 7: really knowing the full story of how prepared he is

790
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 7: and how well he's going to play. I don't think

791
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 7: there was ever any doubt in Pete's mind as they

792
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 7: got into preseason a year ago and then the start

793
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Speaker 7: of the regular season that Gino was going to do

794
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 7: his job.

795
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Speaker 6: So Steve, turnovers are huge at any level of football.

796
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Speaker 6: I mean, watching my grandson play pee wee football. When

797
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 6: they turn it over, they lose the football game. When

798
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Speaker 6: they don't, they got a chance.

799
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Speaker 4: For a football team to not only haven't.

800
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Speaker 6: Lost a fumble, they're one of four teams that haven't

801
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 6: lost a fumble, but think the only team in the

802
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 6: NFL that hasn't put it on the ground once in

803
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 6: four that's very very unusual. One give one interception by

804
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 6: Gino Smith one giveaway on the season is best in

805
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 6: the National Football League as well. Obviously, obviously it's a

806
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 6: it's a it's a focus and when in the plus

807
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 6: department since twenty ten and turnovers eighty five and nineteen,

808
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 6: that's that's pretty good. I mean, is it is it

809
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 6: a big deal? Do they work on that part of things,

810
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 6: ball security turnovers all the time?

811
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 7: I mean it's it's literally every day that not only

812
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 7: do they work on it, but that he talks about it.

813
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 7: You know, I interview him twice during the course of

814
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 7: the week, one on one for different segments of our broadcast.

815
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Speaker 7: And if he doesn't stick in there somewhere that it's

816
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 7: all about the ball. Then, you know, I feel like

817
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 7: I haven't done my job to kind of to kind

818
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 7: of get him to say those because he is just

819
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 7: so much about what it means to be able to

820
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 7: take the ball away and not turn it over. You know,

821
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 7: with plus after four games, you know, San Francisco is

822
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 7: only plus seven. And in my estimation after watching them

823
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 7: now for a couple of weeks, they're the best team

824
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 7: in football. I don't care if you're the Chiefs, I

825
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 7: don't care if for the Eagles. No offense to the Bengals,

826
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 7: but San Francisco looks like the real deal. And then

827
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 7: come to me, as you said, we've given it away

828
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 7: once and we're a plus five. You win football games

829
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 7: if you do that, and if you can protect the ball,

830
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 7: and our running backs are really solid with it, our

831
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 7: receivers they don't cough it up when they get hit.

832
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 7: And we're just now really getting into I think, a

833
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 7: real kind of nice run, you know how they come

834
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 7: in bunches. I think we're getting into that phase right

835
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 7: here where we might see a couple more in the

836
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 7: next few weeks. I know that's what they're sure hoping for.

837
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Speaker 2: We are visiting with the voice of the Seahawks Steve Rabel.

838
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: Seattle is three and one. They got a three game

839
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 2: winning streak, and they're doing it despite some pretty significant

840
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: injury issues so far this year. Jamal Adams has been out,

841
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: the starting right tackle has been out. Former UC Bear

842
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant's missed the last couple of games. What are

843
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: some of the biggest injury question marks going into this

844
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: week's game from Seattle's perspective, You.

845
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 7: Know, it's not question marks now, it's sort of, you know,

846
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 7: sigh of relief. Some of these guys are going to

847
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 7: start coming back now how quickly, and for this week,

848
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 7: I think maybe a couple of them will be back.

849
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 7: We're hoping that Charles Cross, our big tackle on the

850
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 7: left side, will be back. But then again, we got

851
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 7: a couple of the guards hurt last week in that game,

852
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 7: that Monday night game in New York. They may or

853
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 7: may not be ready to play. Abe Lucas, our right tackle,

854
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 7: still has another game out on the IR so he's

855
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 7: still got one more to go. I think a couple

856
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 7: of things. First of all, back in the day when

857
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 7: Dave and I played, and that's you know, back before

858
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 7: they had microphones and plastic for helmets, and we really

859
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 7: did use the flatterer. We really did use the bladder

860
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 7: of a pig to play the game. But in those days, uh,

861
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 7: you know, the whole idea get that starting group together

862
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 7: and they play all the time, and if you had

863
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 7: to stick somebody in there, uh, it was you know,

864
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 7: oftentimes it was a real issue for you. The best

865
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 7: thing that happened to the Seahawks early in the season

866
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 7: was that if guys were going to go down, they

867
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 7: went down, and they plugged right in with these young

868
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 7: especially young offensive linemens and a couple of young defensive backs,

869
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 7: and those guys stepped up and played. And that only

870
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 7: can pay dividends for you as the season goes on.

871
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 7: So I don't think Pete batter than I. He was

872
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 7: a little bit concerned, but yeah, these guys have stepped

873
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Speaker 7: up and done a great job. I think we're going

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Speaker 7: to have Jamal back. I'm pretty sure we will. You know,

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00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 7: he's out of cushion protocol. Gino Hurd his be a

876
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 7: little bit on a rough tackle. He practiced right away

877
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 7: starting on Monday, so he'll be fine. So I think

878
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 7: we're actually in better shape, maybe than we were going

879
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 7: into New York.

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00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: He wasn't happy about that tackle, There's no question about that.

881
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: He was.

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00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: He thought that was a little bit dirty, didn't he.

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00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 7: I mean this, yeah, you know, and back in the day,

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00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 7: that was just the tackle. In fact, you know, it

885
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 7: was nothing to it then, And I think even Gino

886
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 7: walked it back a little bit in the locker room.

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00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 7: He sort of wasn't happy about the way it happened

888
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 7: and the guy fell on the back of his leg.

889
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 7: But you know, shoot that those things happened. That's the game,

890
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 7: you know, So you don't have to be happy about it.

891
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 7: Just don't get hurt, get back out there and throw

892
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 7: a couple of dutchdowns.

893
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 6: My question is a lot of times first down success

894
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 6: leads to third down success. It's so disjointed with Seattle

895
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 6: great on first down. Offensively six point one yards per play,

896
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 6: eighth best in the league on first down, it's not

897
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 6: converting on third down twenty eight point nine percent, thirty

898
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 6: first in the league. Defensively, four point twenty seven yards

899
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 6: per playing first down, second best in the league. Not

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00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 6: converting on third down fifty two point four conversion percent,

901
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 6: it's thirty first.

902
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 4: In the league.

903
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 6: What what What's what gives there? I guess I'm just

904
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 6: a little confused by those numbers. They don't they don't

905
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 6: jive for me.

906
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 7: We have a production meeting for our broadcast every Wednesday,

907
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 7: when we go over and we talk to players and

908
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 7: we talk to Peach and we talked about that today,

909
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 7: trying to figure out why is this the case and

910
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 7: how you're right, how kind of disjointed that is. One

911
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 7: of the things we sort of came up with is uh.

912
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 7: And I'm not giving away anything that you know you

913
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 7: can't see on film, but we're on third down conversion.

914
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 7: One of the things we're not really doing, especially on

915
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 7: third and shorts, we're not moving guys off the line

916
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 7: of scrimmage. It's amazing that we have running lanes first

917
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 7: and second down, or we go on first down for

918
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 7: eight yards and then we have some running lanes on

919
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 7: second down. But it seems like when we get up

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00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 7: there and we absolutely have to have it and we

921
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 7: have to run that the other guys or suddenly the

922
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 7: defensive line is playing on our side of the line

923
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 7: of scrimmage and that's not a good thing. Uh. And

924
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 7: I think also Ken Walker, our second year running back,

925
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 7: who is just just a treat, just phenomenal. Is as

926
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 7: good a kid as he is a football player. But

927
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Speaker 7: what he tends to do sometimes is, you know, he'll

928
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 7: lose a yard to pick up three yards. He'll slide

929
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 7: down the line of scrimmage and look for a crease

930
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 7: when there's no crease there, and especially when you need

931
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 7: to go straight ahead. I think they need to again

932
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 7: continue to work on that. Just the power blocking up front.

933
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 7: You know, we're not much of his own blocking team.

934
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 7: We like to get you know, get a hat on

935
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 7: a hat and push people and I think I think

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00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 7: we're going to get better at that. And listen, one

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00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 7: of our best capt secrets, although he's not a great

938
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 7: secret anymore, is Zach Sharbonay, the rookie out of UCLA.

939
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 7: This guy is a battering ram and he can also

940
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 7: catch the ball out of the backfield. He is fun

941
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 7: to watch, So watch him a little more now, maybe

942
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 7: in those second and short, third and short situation.

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