WEBVTT - Ep. 44  — Sometimes you just need a sad nap

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is Brown Ambition, Right, We're trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>more mature and actually name the podcast before we start

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<v Speaker 2>to start talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, this is Brian Ambition. Welcome. We will be your

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<v Speaker 3>host today and every day.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>I am Tiffany and this is Mandy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we should start with a good.

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<v Speaker 3>I could use some good news. What do you what

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<v Speaker 3>do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I just came back from essence Fest and it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody was at essence Fest book but me, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I had severe fomo.

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<v Speaker 1>It was honestly, like like severe, It was just.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just I don't know, all all good black things,

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<v Speaker 2>like everything from like the best food OMG.

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<v Speaker 1>Like oh, I just love my people and some food

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<v Speaker 1>we know how to throw down. I was like, dang,

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans. Honestly ten pounds. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I love New Orleans and what.

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<v Speaker 1>I love about people is there every year? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>there every year.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, good because why be anywhere else exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's just so so much soul in the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Because what I really loved about New Orleans and the

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<v Speaker 2>people there is that like they take so much pride,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in their food. I mean, you can't ask anybody

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<v Speaker 2>where to eat without getting like ten suggestions or specific things.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, for.

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<v Speaker 2>Oysters, you need to go here, but if you want

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<v Speaker 2>five chicken, you need to go here.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the food was amazing, the like the empowerment

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<v Speaker 2>sessions were awesome. The convention center, I was like, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never seen like literally some companies. It's like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>they tore down the building and rebuilt it in the

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<v Speaker 2>convention Center, like they're they're they call them, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>activations like their booze. Like I can't even call them

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<v Speaker 2>a boost. I feel like to call them booze would

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<v Speaker 2>be like disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you just real quick, just for me and everybody else,

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<v Speaker 3>just what is Essence Fest?

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<v Speaker 2>And like a nutshell, So Essence Fest is a music

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<v Speaker 2>festival and a mixture of like empowerment and entertainment. So

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<v Speaker 2>half of it is like this awesome music festival that's

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<v Speaker 2>three nights and all these big acts, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>other half are all these empowerment.

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<v Speaker 1>Like workshops and stuff. It's specifically geared toward women.

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<v Speaker 2>Of color, right, and it is awesome because you have

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<v Speaker 2>like every brand that has anything to sell toward women

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<v Speaker 2>of color that are there, And honestly, it's just awesome, noness.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like one big party for three days or

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<v Speaker 1>four days, three nights.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I always thought it was music, but then after

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<v Speaker 3>like knowing people like you that have been going there,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, what is it at a conference? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>like soul sessions? What's happening? And I saw this this

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<v Speaker 3>year seem like I don't know if I've just followed

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<v Speaker 3>more people who were going this year, but I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like this year was bigger than any other year in

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<v Speaker 3>the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had a lot of news, so this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first year they did like money and power like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They had like a special stage for it because Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was really cool because they're starting to understand that,

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<v Speaker 2>like we need to talk about personal finance and entrepreneurship

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<v Speaker 2>and ways to make money.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was new.

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<v Speaker 3>We had some of our friends, Patrese Washington, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>She was there, Tanya of my Fab Finance, Marsha of

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<v Speaker 2>the Finance Bar.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like squad was so in the building.

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<v Speaker 3>Len Calforn wasn't Lynette there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I totally missed that. I was like, Lynette,

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<v Speaker 2>whey are we disconnecting? Yes, Lynnette was there killing it

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<v Speaker 2>as usual. She's a regular at Essence honestly, right yea,

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<v Speaker 2>she should be right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like the fairy godmother of all that we do.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're new to the show we talked, you should

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<v Speaker 3>definitely go back and check out our interviews with Lynette

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<v Speaker 3>with Patrese on the podcast. We got to have Tanya

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<v Speaker 3>and Marsha on Someday.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking that when I just said their name.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was really fortunate. And then so for the

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<v Speaker 2>last three years I've been wanting to speak at Essence Fest,

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<v Speaker 2>and my Papa says, Drina has been like pitching me,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just has not been a fit. And then

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<v Speaker 2>this year Essence reached out to her. They were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think we'd like to have Tiffany this year.

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<v Speaker 2>You think she'd be interested. Rina's like, I can speak

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<v Speaker 2>for both of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell, yeah, let me take my schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes exactly. I'm like, oh, the birth of the baby. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be Essence No.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was awesome because one I got to

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<v Speaker 2>do cut a keynote at the on the Money and

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<v Speaker 2>Power stage, and then Prudential hired me to do a

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<v Speaker 2>panel and like two panels, and then Ford came through

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<v Speaker 2>and hired me to do a panel.

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<v Speaker 1>So it just was awesome and awesome every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke every day, and so it was great to

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<v Speaker 2>see the different crowds and to like speak to the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of different audiences every day. So I went from

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<v Speaker 2>like no essence to like essence overload.

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<v Speaker 1>And my sisters came, which was so fun, that's right cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was because the essence gives you, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like passes to like the concerts and this and that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was just fun to be able to like,

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<v Speaker 2>here's VIP for you. There's a little VIP for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was just awesome. Honestly, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>is this how the other half lives? Because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just a regular girl. So usually when I go

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<v Speaker 2>to a concert, I'm in the newsweed just like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>So to get like floor tickets and you're like they're

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<v Speaker 2>like escorting you to the stage, You're like, wait, the

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<v Speaker 2>first day, I didn't even know how to use the

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<v Speaker 2>VIP ticket. I just I'm just so used to being like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever, enjoying like regular everyday life at a

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<v Speaker 2>conference and someone was like, why are you in front?

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<v Speaker 1>You know you can go backstage and you can go here,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the snacks I know, right, you know that's the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing I don't even drink. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take a Shirley Temple, which is really just soda

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<v Speaker 2>and like red syrup.

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<v Speaker 3>How many? How many goodies ended up in your bag?

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<v Speaker 3>Tell the truth?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, we left half of them for like the woman

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<v Speaker 2>that like took care of our room, because I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I just don't need any more any more things, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and because a lot of it didn't really apply to me,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was like hair stuff that like that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>apply to my kind of hair, and so yeah. So

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<v Speaker 2>but just honestly, the biggest and best part of Essence

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<v Speaker 2>was Oprah Lady Oh for the first time spoken Essence

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<v Speaker 2>Fest and I got floor tickets three rows away.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have given her a high five.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, what did she smell?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah? She just was like I could just see.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is why, Like there was a

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<v Speaker 2>light that shone on Oprah and she just said exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what I think. We all needed to hear, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that to make sure that you were actually living what

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<v Speaker 2>your purpose is, what your passion is, and not what

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<v Speaker 2>someone has has picked out for you. And when you

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<v Speaker 2>do that, you'll be amazed at the door set opened.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was her core messaging.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, I was strung up on a on a light

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<v Speaker 3>pole at a rope's course in the mountains all weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the pictures. Was it glamping? Was it really glamping?

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<v Speaker 3>Or did you really just it's so far removed from camping.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, we rented this beautiful ski shallotte, like

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<v Speaker 3>a little cottage that looked like a legitimately looked like

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<v Speaker 3>a gender cake house, like I could have put icing

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<v Speaker 3>on it and taking a bite. It was so adorable,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just it was ten of my friends

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<v Speaker 3>and we do it every year. But yeah, one of

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<v Speaker 3>my friends had a hookup one of his, one of

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<v Speaker 3>his friends owns a house and it's on air and

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<v Speaker 3>bb for like two hundred something dollars a night, but

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<v Speaker 3>she gave it to us half off, so it ended

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<v Speaker 3>up being like the whole weekend all together. I think

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<v Speaker 3>between ten people it was two hundred bucks each. Awesome

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<v Speaker 3>food because we always cook together, we go maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>make one big Walmart trip, and then we we each

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<v Speaker 3>take a night. So they were happened to be couples,

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<v Speaker 3>so each couple took a night to cook and we

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<v Speaker 3>split it up and it was it was it was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>But so on Saturday, we always tried to do one

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<v Speaker 3>crazy excursion and we never ever plan it beforehand because

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<v Speaker 3>we're just not it's like a miracle that we even

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<v Speaker 3>get together at the house, so we don't really we're

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<v Speaker 3>bad at planning. So it's always something. And we went

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth, are we gonna go there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>to do in the Poconots. Are we gonna go to

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<v Speaker 3>a water park? Are we gonna go roller coastering? Or

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<v Speaker 3>like whatever? And finally my friends found this adventure course

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<v Speaker 3>which was it's called Treetop Adventures, and it's like I

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<v Speaker 3>thought in my head, I was like, oh, that it'd

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<v Speaker 3>be neat, and then when we got there, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that'll be five courses that take nearly five hours to complete,

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<v Speaker 3>and you are doing the most ridiculous things like jumping

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<v Speaker 3>off of like heights as high as like three telephone poles.

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<v Speaker 3>You're climbing trees, your you're tarzan roping onto nets and

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<v Speaker 3>like you're swinging from swing to swing, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>like the most challenging thing I've ever done. All of us,

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<v Speaker 3>like halfway through we were like, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Who made this choice?

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<v Speaker 3>Why it was only fifty bucks each? And I just

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<v Speaker 3>looked at my friend Brian because he was pushing hard

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<v Speaker 3>for the water park. He's like a big he's a

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<v Speaker 3>big he's a big kid. And I was like, Brian,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry. And you could hear the screams of

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<v Speaker 3>joy from the water park because it's in the same

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<v Speaker 3>like the same area.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds amazing, Yeah, sounds great. Yeah no, but you guys

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<v Speaker 1>looked like you had fun. I saw pictures. It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really fun. And you know, they get me

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<v Speaker 3>to do crazy stuff every year. Oh, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>mention that morning we had the bright idea to do

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<v Speaker 3>a five k run. Oh my gosh, because half of

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<v Speaker 3>the group is training for the New York City Triathlon okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like sure, I've done a half marathon

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<v Speaker 3>over a year ago. So we did a five k

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<v Speaker 3>that morning and then a five hour wow. Needless to say,

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<v Speaker 3>on actual fourth of July, we did not go anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>we did not do anything. We saw not one firework,

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<v Speaker 3>just sat around the house and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't imagine your body was like, so we're just gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Relax right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So whole different world from the glamour of Oprah and

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<v Speaker 3>your face on billboards.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I have not even processed.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not I need to like go to the

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<v Speaker 2>park and like lay and look at the sky and

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<v Speaker 2>just like let it soak in, like that this amazing

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<v Speaker 2>weekend actually happen in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, honestly, I just need to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's been hard because I got back and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been busy, and then like all the foolishness was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the killings started and I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're here now, okay, Yeah, it's been yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually got into a So the killings obviously, well

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<v Speaker 3>as of yesterday it was just one and then last

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<v Speaker 3>night there was another two more black men senselessly violently killed,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, I don't I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I texted a couple of my friends. We have a

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<v Speaker 3>group text going, and I like I texted something, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of joking, just to sort of break the tension

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<v Speaker 3>in the group text. And then my friend was like

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<v Speaker 3>chewed me out a little bit. She's like, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>believe we're joking at a time like this, and we

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<v Speaker 3>had to, like we were texting back and forth, and

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<v Speaker 3>I could tell she is she was she was lashing out,

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<v Speaker 3>but she was, you know, frustrated and angry, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was I could just feel her stress, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I feel like you have to sort of

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<v Speaker 3>take a step away and take care of your mental

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<v Speaker 3>health a little bit. And all this stuff happens, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to do when you feel like you want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about it but it's so painful and you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just talk yourself in circles and don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like to I didn't even watch like

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you know, like little clips have like I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen little clips, but not kind of purposefully as they

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<v Speaker 2>like came across my timeline on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, I don't want to watch the video of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them murdering, like you know, I just and just like

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<v Speaker 2>I did see the video of the press conference. I

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<v Speaker 2>did see the video of the press conference where like

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<v Speaker 2>the first gentleman, mister Sterling, right, is that his last name.

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<v Speaker 3>I know his first name is Alton because that's my

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<v Speaker 3>dad's first name.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did see the video where his son at

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<v Speaker 2>the press conference just like an rightfully so obviously breaks down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was like, oh my gosh, because what

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<v Speaker 1>do you even Yeah, what do you even say?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if that were my dad, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>my dad, I don't. I've always wanted to have this

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with him, and I haven't yet. But my dad

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<v Speaker 3>is like, and I mean, you probably relate to my

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<v Speaker 3>dad's dark skinned. He's six, I don't know, six one,

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<v Speaker 3>six two. He's not a small man, especially before so

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<v Speaker 3>he had gastric bypass surgery and before that he was

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<v Speaker 3>like close to four hundred pounds, So he's tall. He's big,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And he drives around Atlanta all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and I always I should ask him, like it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a miracle. He's never been pulled over for anything. All

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<v Speaker 3>he says is like his driving is perfect, so he

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<v Speaker 3>would never get pulled over. But one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>I did notice about my dad, especially over the last

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<v Speaker 3>over the last few years, when everyone has sort of

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<v Speaker 3>been hyper vigilant of like violence, police violence against black

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<v Speaker 3>men and black women. Is how nice he is to everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>How when he watch in a room, the first saying

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<v Speaker 3>he does is talk to everybody, Hey, how you do

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<v Speaker 3>and how you doing, ma'am, how you doing, sir? And

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like when he's doing that, it's almost a

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<v Speaker 3>survival thing. It's like, I'm a human, I'm a person.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not here to hurt you don't don't be intimidated

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<v Speaker 3>by me. I'm a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend Mark does that, he said, unconsciously, so because

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<v Speaker 2>Mark the same thing. It's dark skinned, six one six

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<v Speaker 2>two to something, big guy, you know, not huge, but

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, so, he says, honestly, Tiffany, That's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that my dad taught me is that

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<v Speaker 2>like when you enter a room or situation to make

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<v Speaker 2>yourself known as friendly, which is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I don't think about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell know I you know, I really I we have

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to or I have the ability to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>be rude or ignore people or just walk in and

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<v Speaker 3>not you know, just beating myself and not have to

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<v Speaker 3>think about that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've been told I have resting bitch face.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I'm sure I do, because my natural face

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<v Speaker 2>is like, you know, like course I'm a happy person,

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<v Speaker 2>but if I'm not purposefully smiling, it's just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever and so to, And I don't think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I can remember distinctly, like when Superman had

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<v Speaker 2>had the he had aneurysm surgery, and he or he

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to have anneurism surgery, and he had to

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<v Speaker 2>just get a note from his doctor saying I'm legitimately

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<v Speaker 2>out of work because I have this life threatening thing

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<v Speaker 2>in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>And the doctor wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like he was on vacation and he had

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<v Speaker 2>like some junior doctor there who like apparently was not

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<v Speaker 2>blessed with common sense. So I'm telling her, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, here's the note from the hospital. We just

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<v Speaker 2>need a note. But the hospital can't give us extended

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<v Speaker 2>time or whatever. You have to just write a note saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not just goofing off, you know, he just might die,

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<v Speaker 2>so he can't come to work for a few days

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<v Speaker 2>until after the surgery. Then after the surgery they give

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<v Speaker 2>you some other special notes. So anyway, we're in there

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like the woman was just being so difficult

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<v Speaker 2>and dream like Superman look like he wanted to pass

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<v Speaker 2>out because he was in so much pain.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, so I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 2>To her and like I'm getting sassy and that's not

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<v Speaker 2>normally my nature. But by then I'm frustrated because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>advocating for him. I'm like, I'm not understand Like, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>if you understand what I what I'm saying, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really We're out sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying hey, can you write me a note so I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to go to school, Like here's an aneurysm that's

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<v Speaker 2>like life or death. Can we just have a note

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<v Speaker 2>saying that he doesn't have to go to work tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>so we can go see the neurologist. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>what's so difficult about that?

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<v Speaker 1>And so he got up.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess to confront her too, and I took a

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<v Speaker 2>look at him, and I thought to myself, like, Superman

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<v Speaker 2>is six six, like super Chocolate. He's not big as

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<v Speaker 2>far as like wide and like you know, cause he's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit on the slim side, but he looks

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<v Speaker 2>like okay. And I just looked and I saw her

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<v Speaker 2>face and I said, go sit down because she and

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<v Speaker 2>I can get sassy together. I you know, cause I

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<v Speaker 2>could see her ten s up like oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god. Oh got like when I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>sassy with her, she was just like what her But

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<v Speaker 2>I can see her look like, oh my god, it's

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<v Speaker 2>about to be a problem. And I thought to myself, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't even legitimately like advocate for himself and express

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<v Speaker 2>frustration without it being like a true problem. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>eventually she gave us, like, you know, the note. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's because you know, just me just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just laying into her. But I just thought

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, Dang, if I wasn't here, what would he do?

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<v Speaker 2>They probably would have called the police escorted him out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's just so frustrating because.

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<v Speaker 2>It just and you know, I was just thinking to myself, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I grew up in a white neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some of my most of my friends on

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook are fairly silent, like my white friends are fairly silent.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, because everybody would love to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that like, oh, things are better. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>people complain, but I think to myself, like, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 2>things are better, is that a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like to trade and be black?

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning you could keep the same intellect, keep the same job,

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<v Speaker 2>keep the same family, but you're just black and you

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<v Speaker 2>get to live the black experience in America? Like it

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<v Speaker 2>things like you know, like who exactly who would want

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<v Speaker 2>to change? Because you know you wouldn't want to, So

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that, don't pretend like it's not anything. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>just because you know you wouldn't want to trade. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying you'd have to like give up your lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that. You can keep the same lifestyle, but

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<v Speaker 2>you would just have to live the black experience. You

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want to because you know something's not right, And

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<v Speaker 2>to pretend that it's otherwise, to me, it's criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's just so.

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<v Speaker 2>Frustrating because I just see too much and I'm and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as a woman, I don't get nearly as

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<v Speaker 2>much as like what men get. And I just it

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<v Speaker 2>makes me afraid, like what if me and Superman have

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<v Speaker 2>a son?

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<v Speaker 1>Then what that's you know?

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<v Speaker 3>I've read interviews from parents and how they talk, how

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<v Speaker 3>they and there is a good article I think by

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<v Speaker 3>Nicole Hannah Jones and in the Times about how she

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<v Speaker 3>talks about maybe I'm getting the right or wrong, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>about how you talk to your son and your and

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<v Speaker 3>your child. But you know the two men who passed away,

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<v Speaker 3>So Alton Sterling was the first, and then Philando Castile.

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<v Speaker 3>I was reading an interview with his mom that she

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<v Speaker 3>gave to CNN and she's like, I know my son,

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<v Speaker 3>I've warned him about this. He knows not to talk

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<v Speaker 3>back to police. We have a whole system of how

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<v Speaker 3>we cooperate. And even that wasn't enough. You know, he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't do anything wrong. And at that point you just

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<v Speaker 3>it's like what.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, because that's the scared only so much

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<v Speaker 2>you can do. Because it's like your your youth won't

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<v Speaker 2>save you. To Meer Vice was twelve twelve years ol't

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the park.

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<v Speaker 1>By himself a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, your education won't save you, right, your sex

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<v Speaker 2>won't save you being a woman. Look at Sandra blind

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<v Speaker 2>like it's like you're all the things they tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Your behavior is not going to save you.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the gentleman that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually in Walmart buying a firearm like that actually is

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<v Speaker 2>sold at Walmart and the police came upon him and

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<v Speaker 2>killed him. I just I just don't even so for you, like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if only so, what happens when someone shoots you in

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<v Speaker 2>the back, what could I have done differently? And like

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<v Speaker 2>just exactly. And that's the part that's scary is that

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<v Speaker 2>you can make excuse after excuse after excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>But if if that young man.

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<v Speaker 2>Who shot up the police there was I forget his name,

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<v Speaker 2>that he shot up the movie theater doing like the

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<v Speaker 2>Batman premiere, shot and.

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<v Speaker 1>Killed people while wearing a costume, can be escorted out

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<v Speaker 1>and make it alive into the car and into the precinct.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's just crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't see that that other young man who raped

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<v Speaker 2>a woman behind in a dumpster, And it's only because

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<v Speaker 2>like these two young men happened to walk by and

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<v Speaker 2>throw him off of her and hold him down for

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<v Speaker 2>the police to come.

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<v Speaker 1>And they don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Put him in jail because it would affect his future.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what kind of world do you live in where

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<v Speaker 2>you look at that and you don't think to yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>something's not right, you know, Like it's just that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I just said I had a sad nap today, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's just when I'm so exhausted that I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>stay up because it's like, well, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it take for people to riot? Does it take

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<v Speaker 2>for people to start burning things down?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that I hope not?

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<v Speaker 3>You know that already didn't It didn't help in Freddie

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<v Speaker 3>Gray's case exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, Like, what.

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<v Speaker 3>That didn't It didn't help? Does er Gardner? Doesn't help?

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't help? Nothing helps, you know, the most. The most

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<v Speaker 3>you can do is contact your local representative and tell

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<v Speaker 3>them it's not okay. Hold them accountable. That's the most

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<v Speaker 3>we can do. That's probably the most effective thing you

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<v Speaker 3>do because when their jobs on the line, when they

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<v Speaker 3>may not get re elected because enough of their constituents

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<v Speaker 3>are outraged, you know, I think that's the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>you can do, really and I feel like that's what

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<v Speaker 3>so many young people don't do, unfortunately, and very unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's one thing that could have some impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe because people don't feel like that's going to make

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<v Speaker 2>an impact because it's like, you know, you have lobbyists,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got corporations with money. It doesn't seem like your

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<v Speaker 2>voice would be heard even if you're like, well, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be elected because everybody has so many

0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.359
<v Speaker 2>interests that they have to cater to, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>when does your interests, you know, get finally get looked at.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this isn't like the gun debate where there's

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<v Speaker 3>clear for profit businesses at on the other side of

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<v Speaker 3>this and trade associations with the NRA fighting against this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like how police officers are trained, this is

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<v Speaker 3>how they're armed. This is the way America polices. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that we have to pull over, get pulled

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<v Speaker 3>over for a broken tail light, Like, isn't technology good enough?

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 3>You can you can take a picture of what's the

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<v Speaker 3>red light camera and get a ticket in the mail.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not limit the contact police have with people in

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<v Speaker 3>cars and just you know, take a picture, take a

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<v Speaker 3>license plate, send them, send them a ticket in the

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<v Speaker 3>mail the next week. You know, why have to Why

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<v Speaker 3>even put yourself in a position where you might, you know,

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 3>do something like that to a person, have that confrontation.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm no criminal justice expert, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's where it starts in how we police and that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff comes from the top, that comes to

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<v Speaker 3>the Department of Justice and the state's Attorney General's office,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I was glad to see at least

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<v Speaker 3>the DJ is investigating the Alton Sterling murder, which happened first.

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<v Speaker 3>And I haven't heard anything about Filando Castile, but the

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<v Speaker 3>governor he was from Saint Paul, Minnesota. The governor in

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<v Speaker 3>Minnesota at a press conference said, you know, would this

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<v Speaker 3>have happened if he had been white? I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I feel like I've heard that, we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>the videos, and yet no conviction, no conviction, no conviction.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's just so frustrating.

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<v Speaker 3>The convention of the conviction. I mean, I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know if it's still happening just because people aren't getting convicted.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's happening because people are poorly trained. I

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<v Speaker 3>was reading that CNN story. It was like, oh, the

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<v Speaker 3>Alton murder. They were like, oh, one officer was a

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<v Speaker 3>three year veteran, a four and the other one was

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<v Speaker 3>a four year veteran of the police force. That's not

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<v Speaker 3>a veteran. Yeah, three years on the job, you're still

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<v Speaker 3>a rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But in any job, like year three of teaching,

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<v Speaker 2>I was still like, so, what do these kids need

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<v Speaker 2>to learn?

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<v Speaker 1>Again, that doesn't make you a veteran.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then you know my and just real quick

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<v Speaker 3>and my fiance's brother, my age actually has been a

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<v Speaker 3>police officer. He just graduated from the police academy in DC,

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<v Speaker 3>and I worry about him too. You know when when

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<v Speaker 3>you and you think about the police officers out there

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<v Speaker 3>who are doing good work or you know, and after

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 3>incidence is like this, people might try and lash out

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<v Speaker 3>at the first cop they see, and you worry about

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<v Speaker 3>them too. And it's just that's why I'm saying, please

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<v Speaker 3>no violence, please, no, no, no, no physical violence. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that's necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I mean Superman, honestly, he wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>a police officer. He like went, you know, filled out

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<v Speaker 2>all the paperwork. But he his past is a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit too spotty.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just gonna call him put him on blast.

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Like he was a wild boy in his teens, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, I didn't think that they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to look at all that. I was like, well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just be happy that you're in a good place right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they might look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, so I'm definitely not here to bash,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because that could have easily been you know, Superman,

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<v Speaker 2>had he had it worked out for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He really really wanted to be a police officer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a disservice to police to these young men. These men,

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<v Speaker 3>these police officers weren't that old either, and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to live with this for the rest of their

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<v Speaker 3>life and their training. I don't think that they may

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<v Speaker 3>not they're probably not evil people, you know, they probably

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<v Speaker 3>just have terrible training. The fact that they would pull

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<v Speaker 3>a weapon like that and shoot someone like that, they're

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<v Speaker 3>poorly trained.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, well, I disagree about being not evil people,

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 2>because I just saw a clip of it and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, so you have him down, you actually take

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 2>the gun out, put it to his chest and pull

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 2>it and magically your body camp Oh, they fell out

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 2>in the scuffle and magically the video from the from

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<v Speaker 2>the story is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know what I mean? Like whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I that part, I'm like, I don't you know.

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Poorly trained, yes, but also poor in character yes, and integrity. Yes,

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 2>you killed somebody. And I haven't heard anybody own up

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 2>and be like you know what, I'm so sorry for

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, none of these people, even if you didn't

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>think you were at fault, you still killed somebody. If

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I get to a car accident and I hit somebody's car.

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>It's my fault.

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm still like, you know what my bad Like, honestly,

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. You know, let's figure out what's what the

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 2>next stepsode. You never hear that, You never hear the

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of what happened, someone's life is, it's been taken

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 2>and their family will never be the same.

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>And so to me, I'm just like whatever.

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like, I don't even know what special place

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<v Speaker 2>in hell there are for people who take someone's life

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 2>and then show no remorse.

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 1>But I hope wherever that is they go there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just my two cents, Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that's where you say, let the Lord deal

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<v Speaker 3>with them, if you believe in that. I don't know what.

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I believe in. I do know

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 3>that these police officers, police commissioners are elected. They and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that in a lot of cases it's not

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, even if a person does want to apologize,

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 3>they're probably being told, hey, don't admit fault by their lawyer,

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 3>by their bosses, by people who are elected above them.

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Don't admit fault because it makes us look bad.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 3>There's so many different layers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I said that's still an integrity issue, because

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you're right, maybe that's so, But ultimately, you're a human being.

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 2>And if you can't say I'm not saying that, if

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 2>you don't feel your fault. But still someone is dead,

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Like when I saw that fifteen year old boy break down,

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 2>his life will never ever ever be in the same.

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 2>He will always know that his father's death has been

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<v Speaker 2>recorded for the world to watch over and over again.

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>How is he supposed to, like, what does life look

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 2>like for him in ten fifteen years? How is he

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 2>supposed to move on and be like, Okay, Like I

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>can have a normal childhood and normal adulthood. How when

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I can watch my father's death at any moment in

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 2>time on.

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>YouTube, I don't even know, Like what do you do

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>with that? You know?

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 2>How sometimes something so tragic happens and you can't even process.

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 2>How can someone process that and move on to live

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>a productive life?

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>How? You know? And so ultimately I think people, you

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 1>know what it is.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I just think people are disconnected and that they don't

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 2>they don't. It's like you're not connected to people who

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 2>are not like you, you know, and.

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 3>You don't have a black father or black brother or

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 3>black friend. It's hard. It's the same reason we don't

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 3>care when you know, there was just an article about

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 3>all these bombings and violence and bagdad over the last week,

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 3>three hundred deaths, something like that, and no one's changing

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 3>their profile picture, no one's you know, saying, you know,

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 3>sharing their sympathy for the victims and that. I think

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 3>that's another issue, is if you don't have people who

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 3>are there or skin in the game, then you won't care.

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 3>And that's another sad I think that's another sad symptom

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 3>of just not having a diverse enough network social circle.

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Seeing why you're comfortable.

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so I think I am.

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I think I know what my brown break is.

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll tell you what I did today that made

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>me feel a teeny weensy bit better.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I followed the hashtag care for You Black Kids two

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 3>K sixteen. Okay, have you followed this hashtag? It's literally

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 3>just nothing but vines of like happy black children doing

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 3>things like singing sound of music and doing cartwheels and

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:36.199
<v Speaker 3>dancing and like little cute kids with pigtails. I don't know.

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 3>I felt a little bit better after seeing.

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>That Okay, I'm gonna look at that because I'm like, okay,

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I need you know, that would be great to be

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>able to just watch.

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Because that's one thing I used to always say that

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>like would always make me.

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Like just always kind of get on my nerves when

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 2>people reported, like from from places that were considered dangerous

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 2>or like you know, from a Newark or an Oakland

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>or Detroit, that they all they ever showed was the

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>bad side. And I would always think to myself, especially

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>since I was working in Newark, like they would be like,

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, a shooting maybe the day before, but yet

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>me and the kids would go out and go to

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 2>the park and they'd be giggling and laughing, and I

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>would always think to myself, you know that despite the

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>fact that there is this ugliness going on, there's always

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>beauty still happening simultaneously, And I wish that there would

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>be a spotlight on that because they would always bring

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 2>me so much joy, Like, no matter what was going

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>on in the city of Newark, I found that, you know,

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 2>still the next day the kids would go out, we'd

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 2>go to the park.

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, they eat their little gram crackers.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 2>They would call me miss Tiffany and give me hugs

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and kisses and we would like enjoy life at that moment,

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>and I think that maybe that's what be You know,

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna take a brown break or maybe I'll

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>do a brown boost instead.

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, you want to go on and do the

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 3>bron break and brown boost mm hmm.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So definitely, I'm just going to take a break from

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 2>social media just because it's a lot right now, like

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>there's no joy there, so I just need a break

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 2>from that. But definitely a brown boost to that new hashtag.

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that just like watching care free black kids

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 2>be free and fun and laugh and smile and have

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 2>a good time, I think that I want a little

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>bit of a boost of that. So that's my bron

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 2>break and my brown boost.

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm going to do a triple dose of happiness

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 3>for brown Boots today because I feel like we need it.

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 3>If ever there were a day for a triple dose,

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 3>today's day. So one is that my fav I saw

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 3>you posted this before I could on the on our

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Facebook page. But it's a ray actually raised in like

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 3>less than a day, maybe a matter of hours, over

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 3>two hundred thousand dollars for the children of Alton Sterling

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 3>to go to college. So that's amazing someone using their

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 3>power for good. And that's one. Two is that I

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>saw Hamilton last week. How was it? It was life changing?

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Like I sort of feel like I don't know how

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 3>to describe it. I'm gonna sound insane. I've been trying

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 3>to describe it to everybody, and all I do is

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 3>sound like a crazy person and obsessed, and I just

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 3>need to like tone it down a little bit, I think.

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 3>But it was. It was the greatest thing I've ever seen.

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Like I took fiance for his birthday and I literally

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 3>put I purchased these tickets nine months ago, like last September.

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 3>No more than nine almost ten months ago. I purchased

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 3>these tickets because they were all sold out till January.

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 3>And everyone's acting like I must have like shot somebody

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 3>or murdered somebody to get these No, I bought them

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 3>nearly a year ago. And everybody in that audience you

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 3>can just tell they were so grateful to be there.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 3>And when all those actors because this is the last

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 3>this was the last two weeks of before three of

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 3>the primary cast members, including the main star of at

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Lin Man and Will Miranda. They they leave the show,

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 3>so they were taping the play for I think to

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 3>air on PBS or something like that. So everyone was there,

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>all the original cast and when I've never heard of

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Broadway audience, Like I go to Broadway plays a lot,

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 3>but I've never heard an audience like like scream, like laugh.

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 3>It was like being at it might have been like

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 3>being at that New Addition concert, like seeing your favorite

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 3>band on stage, and like people are going to like

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 3>a Beyonce show, like they were all Beyonce up there,

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 3>and it just I've never seen and I went to

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 3>color purple, but like, how often do you see a

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 3>cast that is that dive burse like like Latino Asian,

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 3>black and white too and gay and straight, and like

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 3>the fact that they could make history through hip hop

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 3>one of like a masterpiece, Like I'm listening. The soundtrack

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 3>is forty six songs long. All of them could be

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.959
<v Speaker 3>on the radio, all of them and they will be

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 3>because Questlove and the Roots are producing like an album

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 3>based on the cast album. It was just so good.

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 3>And like my fiance he was like half the time

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 3>he was just watching me watch a play because my

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 3>mouth was hanging open.

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Like well, somebody tweeted me a question.

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh what is it?

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>It's just a simple question.

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>She said, Hey, at the bunch, anista, do you think

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 2>it's a good idea to refinance my car loan?

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, yeah, Okay, we'll set it up and we'll

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 3>do that as a question. Okay, all right, do we

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 3>have any questions today?

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I we were tweeted a question and someone asked if

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:53.719
<v Speaker 2>we thought it was a good idea for her to

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 2>refinance her car loan. I'm assuming that. I'm assuming her

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 2>she didn't. You know, it's a tweet, so you can

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>give but so much information. But I'm assuming it's because

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>her payments are too high.

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's a real issue. I was just I

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 3>was just doing a whole story for this for Magnify Money,

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.959
<v Speaker 3>where I right now about subprime auto loans, like how

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 3>easy it is to get you know these like no credit,

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 3>bad credit, anyone get a car loan, and then they

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 3>talk you into getting these crazy expensive car loans that

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 3>you don't think is crazy because they're like, oh, well,

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 3>your monthly payment's only like two hundred dollars. But what

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>you don't realize is that not only is your interest

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 3>rate incredibly high, like over fifteen percent, sometimes even more

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 3>than twenty five percent. But that the only way they're

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 3>getting a monthly payment so loan so low is because

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 3>they're making your loan even longer, like giving you even

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.439
<v Speaker 3>longer to pay off your loans. So instead of having

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 3>like a three year car loan, they're giving you like

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 3>a five, six, seven year car loan.

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>And then sometimes too. This happened to a few of

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>my dream catchers. They finally did get the money together

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 2>and there's a prepayment. They're not allowed to prepay.

0:34:57.960 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>That's oh yeah.

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Like one woman, she was sending an extra payment and

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>noticed that her principle wasn't going down.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>She called them.

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:05.919
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, yeah, we've just been putting it toward

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the interest because you can't prepay. So basically they've just

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>been keeping her extra money. Can you imagine?

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Wow? And she was like a criminal, I know.

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, wait what She's like, I don't

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>even know what to do.

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I've been prepaying for three months, thinking like I'm doing

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>a good thing, and basically they pocketed my money.

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, the CFPB the regulator for financial institutions, banks,

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 3>credit card companies, stuff like that, they've been trying really

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 3>hard to regulate the auto loan industry. M hm, they

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 3>have been unsuccessful because I didn't realize this until I

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 3>started doing this story. But like, do you know how

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 3>powerful car dealers are, like car dealers, like your local

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 3>car dealer and your neighborhood. They're like more politically powerful

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 3>than sometimes legislators. Like they're the personal like they are

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the mini NRA of different states. So really yeah, and

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 3>so they've influenced policy. I was looking over the car.

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 3>The auto dealer industry has donated over like one single

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 3>auto dealer from Florida, Okay, donated seven million dollars to

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 3>political candidates this year through the election. This happened to

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 3>also be just a year after the CFPP failed to

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:18.879
<v Speaker 3>get the get the power to regulate auto lenders too.

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 3>And it's because they have so these dealers, they have

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 3>so much influence over their local politicians.

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.959
<v Speaker 2>That is insane and scary. So what say you about

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 2>advice for her? I say, well, obviously, I say yes,

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 2>you can definitely refinance your your car loan. I always say,

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're looking to buy that you should

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 2>try your best to bring your own financing with you.

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know I do that.

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I know you don't realize it, but like you can go.

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 2>You can go to your credit union or even your bank,

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 2>especially if you have decent credit and work out. I

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>think this is what a superman did. You know he

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 2>has a really low at the time when he had

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>a car payment, but he got his financing from his

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 2>credit union. It was super low, single digit and he

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>was able to go to the car lot car dealership

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 2>and let's.

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Say no, no, you know I have the money. I

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>just I'm here just for the car.

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Right. People don't shop around enough. And you know when

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 3>you go to a dealer and they're taking you to

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 3>their financing office, you should know that those financing people

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 3>like it's in their interest to sell you loans that

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 3>they get the biggest kickback from. So when they shop around,

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 3>like oh yeah, Capital one is great, you know, we'll

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 3>get you set up with them. They'll prove you they're

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 3>getting a kickback from Capital One or not just to

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 3>call out them, but any bank, most banks that they

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 3>work with for bringing them business, for bringing you to

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 3>the bank, like the bank is actually kicking them back

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 3>to a little cash on the side. Sometimes they get

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 3>a cut up the interest rate that they give you,

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 3>so they're incentivized to give you a higher interest rate.

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 3>There's like a million reasons why it's better. You're better

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 3>off shopping for your loan on your own. But even

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 3>like I've heard from people that even if you shop around,

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 3>you still get there and they try and bully you

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.919
<v Speaker 3>into car signs of extra stuff.

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm actually gonna search for a car now. So

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, my ninety nine Toya camera. She

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>has done me well, but at this time to retire

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 2>her at least for like regular everyday use.

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>So I was gonna. I saved.

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I've been saving, honestly because I've had the camera for ever.

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>So I have a good chunk of money. Honestly, my

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 2>budget is about twenty thousand dollars like cash, and because

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I've been saving and saving for the last three or

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 2>four years, knowing that the next car I I didn't

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 2>want a hoopdie. Finally, I was like, all right, Tiffany,

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 2>you know you work hard, you've done well, you saved, We're.

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Not going to get a hoop die.

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, I'm not going to get

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.479
<v Speaker 2>a car loan and I so I saved and I said,

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 2>plus two, I'll buy the car for my business because

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll keep my hoopdie for personal use and get the

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 2>car for my business so I can write it off

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 2>as a you know, as a tax write off for

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>my business a budgetista. And you should see their faces

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>so disappointed. Like first me and Superman would come in one.

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, they I could tell they thought like, oh,

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 2>they don't have any money because you know, like we're

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 2>black and we're young, and so just even getting someone.

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 2>There were some dealerships that were really great about coming

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 2>up to us and asking us questions and you know,

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.879
<v Speaker 2>and some dealerships that kind of just like eyes glazed over,

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 2>like they don't have any money. And you know, when

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I would go and talk and talk about like you know,

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, what's your budget, and you know, I

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 2>tell them, you know, well let's see the cars first.

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 2>And then when it got down to talking business and

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh, you know, we have great financing.

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I would just be like it felt so good to

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:26.280
<v Speaker 1>say I'll.

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Actually be paying cash well cashier's check and they're like,

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 2>wait what.

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>And Superman said, that's my favorite parctivity.

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't wait till we get to those parts and

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 2>they're like, well, I'm like, yes, it's for my business,

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 2>so I'll be paying be a cashier's check. So again,

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.439
<v Speaker 2>so how they and you don't understand how many times

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 2>they were like wait, I don't I'm not quite understanding.

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I won't be doing any financing. I'll

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 2>be paying just straight.

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Cash money hunt why.

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>And then that's when they're like, well, what do you

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:54.240
<v Speaker 1>do again?

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>A briefcase, I know, I teach financial education, so what

0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to do? I'm like the quickest one

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 2>at Target at the gap when the women are trying

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 2>to like or the cashiers trying to get you to

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 2>sign up for like a credit card, and I'm like

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>now they're like you don't want to save? And I'm like, honestly,

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 2>my sister's like, oh boy, here we go, because they

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 2>know about they selling them. I'm like, every time somebody

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 2>signs up for these, you know you really are helping

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 2>to lower their credit score. Sometimes the women behind the counter,

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 2>the cashier whoever, is actually really surprised and grateful that

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I shared that with them.

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes they're like girl, yes or no, I was that.

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Girl at the Gap because I used to get I

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 3>used to get in, like you get rewarded for how

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 3>many credit cards you sign up. That's a whole other conversation.

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, just crazy.

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 2>No, but yeah, so I'd say like, yeah, so refinancing

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 2>definitely looking.

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 3>You can Yeah, you know, Magnify actually has a cool

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 3>tool A little plug from my new job. You know,

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 3>they're good Magnify if you're do you want to compare

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.439
<v Speaker 3>loans like they're they're like have some of the best

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 3>tools out there and they're free to use and they're

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 3>all better.

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>And what I love about Magnifying money everybody's activity like

0:40:58.480 --> 0:40:59.479
<v Speaker 1>do they pay you? They don't.

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I just really love their website because one, it's just

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 2>great for comparison to all these different financial products and services.

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Two, the language is so easy to understand. You're not like, wait,

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean?

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Like they're just like it's just plain spoken English, so

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 2>you get it.

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Everyone who I said there is like, oh my god,

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I love this website. I'm like, I know, because it's

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 2>just it's a great website that you can use to

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 2>find resources and you can actually understand what they mean

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 2>and you don't have to like Google like what does

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 2>that word mean?

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, well, yes, I'll take credit for all that.

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>And one last little thing that about magnified money. Had

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.240
<v Speaker 2>you've heard of the trans Union had that glitch?

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen?

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean the only reason why I know is

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 2>because my dream catchers were going crazy for the last

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 2>few days. So trans Union apparently had either a nationwide

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 2>or a worldwide glitch where everyone, everyone's basically credit score

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:59.959
<v Speaker 2>was deleted. Everything was taken off the yes for whatever reason.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 2>But then they put it back on. But apparently there's

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>a law.

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>That states that once you take something off of a credit.

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Score, you're not allowed to put it back on without

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>written notice.

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they get a free credit clean up.

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Basically, it's like it's like the FCR section six to eleven,

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>like the final Girl on if we what FCRA stands for.

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so all of my dream catchers have been

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<v Speaker 2>calling TransUnion and basically being like, nah na, nah, don't

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<v Speaker 2>put that back on, not my negative stuff. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, I mean, yes, it's great that you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>able to clean up your TransUnion score, but if they

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<v Speaker 2>mail you within five days of reinserting, they can actually

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<v Speaker 2>add the deletions back on. Also, it's not gonna affect

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<v Speaker 2>the other two credit report, Like, it's not like it's

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<v Speaker 2>across the board, like everyone is going to be removing

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<v Speaker 2>these negative stuff things off your credit report, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just because the like the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Item is gone, like girl, you still oh the account

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<v Speaker 1>is still there?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, you likely won't see a huge jump in

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<v Speaker 2>your in your credit score. Some people had did see

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<v Speaker 2>a jump. A woman was like, oh, my credit score

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<v Speaker 2>went up fifty points. But that's just for TransUnion, So

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<v Speaker 2>what if the car dealership uses Equifax, then it's not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna affect So I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Not saying I'm surprised people's course, couldn't your score also

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<v Speaker 3>go down if they remove some of your older credit history?

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<v Speaker 1>This is possible too.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen that that's what has happened, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a huge like everyone was.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about it and the group, so I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do a little bit of research, like what happened? So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently I don't know this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just erasing everybody's credit reports and they're basically like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>don't put that old stuff back on. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately it doesn't affect all the other all the other

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<v Speaker 2>credit reports that you have. So you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying you shouldn't you shouldn't fight to keep those negative

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<v Speaker 2>increase off your those negative things off your credit report,

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<v Speaker 2>your TransUnion credit report, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Just now that it might not make a big of

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<v Speaker 1>a difference, as.

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<v Speaker 3>You think, Yeah, pay your bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, that's gonna make the biggest difference. Pay your

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<v Speaker 2>bills and actively work toward like like restoring your credit

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<v Speaker 2>by paying your bills on time, keeping your utilization of

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<v Speaker 2>your credit cards low, and like not opening up new

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<v Speaker 2>credit cards right away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we could do a whole episode, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think we're due for a nice credit

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<v Speaker 3>score episode. People are obsessed, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They yes, what is the obsession with credit score?

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<v Speaker 3>Not even just well, I mean there's a reason to

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<v Speaker 3>be obsessed with it, but I mean it's just people

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<v Speaker 3>who have bad credit and want to know how to

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<v Speaker 3>get out of it. You know, those are the people

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<v Speaker 3>who end up with these these bad auto loans. And

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<v Speaker 3>one thing I'll say, just getting back to her question

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<v Speaker 3>real quick, is when you refinance an auto loan which

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<v Speaker 3>you already have poor credit to begin with, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of it it's kind of an issue. You

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<v Speaker 3>really got to work on your credit because to get

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<v Speaker 3>refinance that just means taking out another loan. That means

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<v Speaker 3>finding a lender who is willing to lend to you,

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<v Speaker 3>and if your credit's poor, that can be difficult. So

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<v Speaker 3>some of the advice that is maybe not so good

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<v Speaker 3>to hear. It's not like a get out of debt

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<v Speaker 3>quick advice. It is clean up your credit as much

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<v Speaker 3>as you can. You know, sell whatever you can, sell

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<v Speaker 3>the car if you have to, if you're bleeding money,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if what's happening. Sometimes I was just talking to

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<v Speaker 3>a woman from Georgia actually whose car she refinanced. This

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<v Speaker 3>is another thing you can do. So the sometimes they'll

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<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, so you know you want to refinance, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll give you a new loan for a new car,

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<v Speaker 3>and we can roll over your old loan into that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're basically adding on your old loan onto the new loan,

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<v Speaker 3>so your loan is even bigger than it was before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't always helping you exactly. So you're paying for two

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<v Speaker 3>cars but only have one, yeah, basically, and that just

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 3>means and you probably that makes immediately the car you

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<v Speaker 3>have worth less than what you owe on the loan,

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<v Speaker 3>which doesn't make any sense obviously. Yeah, but I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to post a link to on our blog.

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<v Speaker 3>I just we just did a story how to get

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<v Speaker 3>out from under a bad car Loan, and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>that the yes that you well, I didn't write it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I assigned it. So that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me. It's my feet, my pinky up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my job. I'm an editor now, so I get

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<v Speaker 3>to assign the different stories. So hey, if you guys

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 3>have story ideas you want to answer questions answered, go

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<v Speaker 3>to magnify money dot com. I swear they have answers

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 3>to like everything, and if they don't, let me know

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<v Speaker 3>and we will get those answers for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So we should end with some wins, although I'm struggling

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<v Speaker 2>to decide what a win should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I have a quick one. Okay, there was Actually

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<v Speaker 3>I said I was gonna do three boosts, but I

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<v Speaker 3>forgot one. So here's a third.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know Leslie Jones from SNL?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, you here?

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<v Speaker 3>So she is like, first of all, she's hilarious. I

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 3>don't know her her sense of humorism for everybody. She's

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.759
<v Speaker 3>kind of like loud and sassy, and some people say

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<v Speaker 3>that she's not doing any favors for black women by

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 3>being like a stereotype, But I don't care. She's on

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<v Speaker 3>TV and that's amazing. But she's in a movie with

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<v Speaker 3>She's so she's starring in Ghostbusters, right mm hm. We

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<v Speaker 3>talked about this before, like how everyone was saying how

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 3>in Ghostbusters she's like stereotypical, Like why is the one

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<v Speaker 3>black actress got to be the MTA worker and like

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 3>have all you know from the hood or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 3>so she tweeted that she's going to the premiere of

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<v Speaker 3>Ghostbusters and she's not like none of these designers want

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<v Speaker 3>to design dresses for her. And immediately who comes to

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<v Speaker 3>the rescue? But my favorite Christian Siriano.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, I love him.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like he has done more for black women

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<v Speaker 3>in fashion than like, I can't even think of anyone else.

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 3>So Christian Syrian if you don't know. So he was

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<v Speaker 3>on Project Runway when I used to watch it. Yeah, Slade,

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Slade was amazing, this like pint sized little nugget and

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<v Speaker 3>he's gone on to dress everybody. He's on all the

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<v Speaker 3>red car because he's a huge brand, and he does

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<v Speaker 3>not have to go out of his way to help

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<v Speaker 3>women who are different sizes. He could dress all the

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 3>models he wants to, but he has dressed the entire

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<v Speaker 3>cast of Orange Is the New Black that's become like

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<v Speaker 3>his little muse lately. They and all those women or

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 3>different sizes, mostly minority women. And not only that, but

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Danielle Brooks, who is from Orange Is the New Black.

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<v Speaker 3>She became the face of his plus size line for

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<v Speaker 3>Lane Bryant, which just debuted this year. So anyway, christ

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<v Speaker 3>so I saw her tweet on Twitter that no one

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<v Speaker 3>was finding no one would make her address, and immediately

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<v Speaker 3>I tweeted at her and Christian Siriano and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>please make this happen. And Christian Siriano favorite in my tweet,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so oh yeah he did. Now I'm not gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, honestly, this is everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say that I made this happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You did.

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<v Speaker 3>But a day either they tweet the Instagram to post

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<v Speaker 3>together and she's shopping in his store or not shopping,

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 3>but she's there in his in his in his store

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<v Speaker 3>getting he's designing a dress for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, no you made it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's all give Mandy. I'm not even gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>a win. I think that's a win for everyone. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just like a round of applause because like, that's just honestly,

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>that is so awesome. That is the power of positive

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:02.399
<v Speaker 2>social media at work, ladies and gentlemen, soweaiting and.

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Connecting folks Like I knew I loved him when I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was his best friend or

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:09.480
<v Speaker 2>his sister, that she was getting married and she's plus

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<v Speaker 2>sized and he made her a beautiful wedding dress, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Love you and Nicolette Mason.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if that is that his friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I saw that on Instagram too. Yeah, she's like

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 3>a plus size like uh blog, I think she's a

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 3>she works for a magazine I forget now, but anyway,

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.240
<v Speaker 3>she's cool, she's great to follow. Oh, she's a columnist

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 3>at Marie Claire. That's what it is, okay, yeah, plus size.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I loved her wedding dressy have gold and sparkly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so beautiful And I'm just like, oh, look at

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<v Speaker 2>this the fields, Yes for both, look at you, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 2>see you get virtual hugs.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like, you know, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 3>plus sized women should not have to feel like there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing for them. You know, people should make things for

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<v Speaker 3>us too, because our bodies are our bodies. They're normal,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not crazy. And I just love Christian Serano for

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<v Speaker 3>for being aware of where as a lot of designers

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 3>are not. Yeah, if you're listening, Christian, thank you on

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<v Speaker 3>behalf of all women with curves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you can top that now.

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<v Speaker 1>No I can't, so on that note, we are just

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<v Speaker 1>going to close that.

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<v Speaker 3>Top dead with your essence fust wonderment.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're just going to like end on that note.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh yeah, so if you have any financial questions,

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 2>you could send them to.

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<v Speaker 3>Brown Ambition Podcasts at gmail dot com, or.

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<v Speaker 2>You can tweet us at the BA podcast or facebook

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 2>us at Brown Ambition on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>We look forward to connecting with you.

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 2>If you have the feels about kind of how this

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:44.240
<v Speaker 2>episode went, we'd love to hear you tweet us share

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 2>with us. Maybe you have a story that you kind

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 2>of want to share as far as like, you know,

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:50.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the sadness that's going on, and you

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 2>know what, I really would love what brings you to

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:56.360
<v Speaker 2>your happy space, like if you know, like how Mandy

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 2>said that hashtag care for You Black Kids twenty sixteen

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of gives her, like the smile. So what gives

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you the smiles and gets you to a happy space

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 2>when things are not quite so happy? I'd love love

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 2>love to like know what that is, so you can

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 2>tweet us at the BA podcast or me at the

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Budgetista or Mandy are you Mandy money or Mandy I.

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<v Speaker 3>Am at Mandy Woodrow at Mandy was an eye, I

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.280
<v Speaker 3>was an eye. I hope that they say brown ambition

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 3>helps them. Yes, we hope we bring a little bit

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 3>of joy to your lives.