Speaker 1: This he's Talking Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys Training
Speaker 1: Camp in Hawnsnard, California. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brauns,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. And it is day number
Speaker 1: four of Cowboys Camp, two thousand nineteen, Day number five
Speaker 1: of Zeke Watch, because we count the travel day as
Speaker 1: a Zeke Watch day as well. While back on Thursday.
Speaker 1: It's a new week for all of you out there,
Speaker 1: and it's a new edition of Talking Cowboys, the second
Speaker 1: for us here in this two thousand nineteen training camp.
Speaker 1: But the biggest news of all is they put on
Speaker 1: the pads today. That makes it a big day here.
Speaker 1: I just wrote down Pa d s Pat's pads past
Speaker 1: Missouri Education. Doing you well? Finally, Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: could have watched another one or those. I'm sorry, did you?
Speaker 1: But did you get anything out of you were talking
Speaker 1: about earlier about guys lining up and rotations and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and you could see, yeah, where guys are
Speaker 1: kind of where they are right in the rotation, like
Speaker 1: whose first, second, or third? And that's all great. And
Speaker 1: in one day though I could do that, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I needed another day. You can see them
Speaker 1: in the walkthrough too. Yes, so, I mean we've seen
Speaker 1: two of those times. It's time to It's time to
Speaker 1: see these linemen go head to head. That's all. The
Speaker 1: walkthrough is more valuable to me than the other the
Speaker 1: afternoon practice, just because they lined up and you could
Speaker 1: see where they're playing different players against and against against
Speaker 1: each other. Not that they did anything, Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just skeletons. You know. The things I was getting out
Speaker 1: of the two practices that we watched were offensively, we're
Speaker 1: about spacing, We're about route combinations. We're okay, we've seen
Speaker 1: something different from Kellen Moore that we haven't seen before
Speaker 1: with Scott Linehan. To me, it seems like better route
Speaker 1: combinations as far as okay, I get now why they're
Speaker 1: running the slants, running this, the outside guys running this. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got the back on the swing. Oh wait, we
Speaker 1: got the tied end doing this. I'm starting to see
Speaker 1: things differently that way. If you want to just just say, okay,
Speaker 1: just give me something to look at. I've noticed that
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and these quarterbacks have had more area to
Speaker 1: throw it. Again, we'll have defense defenders getting on these
Speaker 1: guys and stuff and We'll see if those windows shrink.
Speaker 1: But at least I've seen spacing that I haven't seen before,
Speaker 1: and I think that that itself. We all talked about
Speaker 1: pre snap motion. We've talked about different looks moving personnel around,
Speaker 1: maybe using the fullback a little bit more than what
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past. But I've just noticed a
Speaker 1: little bit better of space for these receivers and Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott to get that ball into To your point, that
Speaker 1: was an emphasis Jason Garrett was making to the receivers yesterday.
Speaker 1: I mean, getting on them about their spacing, making sure
Speaker 1: it's precise. And he said, I said something really interesting
Speaker 1: in the press conference yesterday that he's he's acknowledged he's
Speaker 1: spending more time with that side of the ball than
Speaker 1: the defense. And when you think about it, it makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Kellen Moore, all these coaches that
Speaker 1: are pretty you know, Mark Colombo, first year guy, John Kittna,
Speaker 1: work with those guys because that's where the most changes
Speaker 1: on us fire in his second year here. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then on you look on the defensive side, when they
Speaker 1: had pretty well established last year what they could do
Speaker 1: with the combination of Marinelli, you know, Yeah, the the
Speaker 1: offensive skilled players better be in good shape because as
Speaker 1: much motion as there. Yeah, think he's right, they better
Speaker 1: not be tired by the time they have to get
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage because they're using the lot
Speaker 1: you mentioned the full back right, Yeah, he better catch
Speaker 1: the ball like he's catching it out here when they
Speaker 1: throw it to him, like he did against Indianapolis. Show
Speaker 1: but they got one shot for glory. He is not
Speaker 1: a stationary player. They've got him in the slot. They
Speaker 1: motioned them to the fullback spot. They motioned them out.
Speaker 1: The first time we talked to Kellen Moore as the
Speaker 1: new OC and OTAs the first guy out of his
Speaker 1: that he named out of his mouth. Ola Maze very
Speaker 1: versatile in Oakland. Well, we didn't really see that last year,
Speaker 1: so maybe that's something different. Well what you're also seeing
Speaker 1: too yesterday. If you notice this Jason Witten and Blake Jarwin,
Speaker 1: him playing wide and then all of a sudden motioning
Speaker 1: in and so he's trying to create He's trying to
Speaker 1: create opportunities. If you're one of those teams that will
Speaker 1: bump your best corner all the way to the tight
Speaker 1: end or all the way out to a back out there,
Speaker 1: and now you put a lesser player in on, say
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, or you put somebody lesser on on Cooper.
Speaker 1: You know, he's testing some some theories here that Okay,
Speaker 1: if I move, maybe he's getting ready for somebody in
Speaker 1: his mind that's gonna bump that corner all the way
Speaker 1: out and like, okay, I'm gonna run this play when
Speaker 1: they when they put a lesser corner in there. But
Speaker 1: I've also noticed this guy's when they run the boots
Speaker 1: in the waggles, what have you seen? He's always kind
Speaker 1: of seen a tight end drag, tight end, drag, tight
Speaker 1: end over the top. He's using wide receivers for this
Speaker 1: he's using. I mean, yesterday he ran a really little
Speaker 1: Night's Little design. And I've seen Randall Kyle run this
Speaker 1: play in Green Bay where he motions all the way outside,
Speaker 1: stops at the wing, and then comes all the way
Speaker 1: back across, and then Rogers hits him for that thing.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you've got all the trash inside.
Speaker 1: He's the defenders stuck, and now you got a guy
Speaker 1: better run after the catch guy. And that's that's where
Speaker 1: I think a little bit more creative for me, don't
Speaker 1: throw the ball to Dalton Schultz and he lumbers around
Speaker 1: for you know, it's a it's a play that could
Speaker 1: have gone for twenty five yards, but it goes for
Speaker 1: for ten because you got a kind of a lumbery guy.
Speaker 1: Get it the ball to a back or a or
Speaker 1: a receiver that can run after catch, that can run
Speaker 1: after catch and get you a bigger gain on the play,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people think, because Kellen Moore is young, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have this sky sky Wars offense, Star Wars, Star Wars, Skywars.
Speaker 1: I saw that movie too, Sky Sky nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: I wish can't could hear that right now? God bless him.
Speaker 1: Yeah he might be listening. He might be somebody else
Speaker 1: out there should be listening every morning at nine o'clock.
Speaker 1: There a lot of two tight end offense too, And
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin is incorporated to this deal. And I think
Speaker 1: it's a neat deal because Blake Jarwin has shown he
Speaker 1: can get downfield, which will open up good eyes. So
Speaker 1: uh yeah, don't don't think that they're there. This is
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty five offense. You know, this is back
Speaker 1: to two tight ends, which just gets back to a
Speaker 1: lot of people were concerned with Whitten, who are Witten
Speaker 1: critics that yeah, you can't get him off the field,
Speaker 1: you know, and that sort of thing. But they're gonna
Speaker 1: have the two tight end formation just like they've had
Speaker 1: in the past. And so and then what you hope
Speaker 1: is Jarwin can block also like he got better? Has
Speaker 1: he gotten better at it? We'll start finding out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, So last night Jerry Jones did his little
Speaker 1: TV car wash and went very well for Bill. I
Speaker 1: got to at least listen to that one. Oh you did, Bill?
Speaker 1: You weren't there for when it happened? Were you or
Speaker 1: were you? He was hiding behind the trash can anywhere? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Oh so you don't have direct TV or no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're they're they're limiting my Ranger games. Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 1: aside from that Jerry breaking down. But but but the
Speaker 1: reason I brought that up is that CBS is not
Speaker 1: being carried by at a tu verse and direct TV
Speaker 1: right now. Um, you know the I thought the well,
Speaker 1: I'll let you also say what you thought. The most
Speaker 1: interesting thing from Jerry was. But in regard to Zeke Uh.
Speaker 1: He brought up the fact that even though my question
Speaker 1: to him, you have limited time, you got with six
Speaker 1: minutes six minutes, and by the way, there's no time
Speaker 1: to stop watch exactly so, because what they do is
Speaker 1: they had all four local Dallas Boards stations at San
Speaker 1: Antonio stations do it so. I mean, Jerry was sitting
Speaker 1: there at the gazebo area here at the residents end
Speaker 1: for an hour straight just talking to a car wash
Speaker 1: of different sportscasters that came through. I was the fourth
Speaker 1: end line. See, there's no real chance for follow ups
Speaker 1: if you want to get every topic in that you
Speaker 1: want in six minutes with Jerry. But the interesting thing
Speaker 1: I thought with Zeke, the question I asked him was,
Speaker 1: is Zeke to this Cowboys team what Emmett was to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys team of the nineties. And he took it
Speaker 1: and ran with it. As far as the Super Bowl goes,
Speaker 1: right off the bat well the differences. Emmett won a
Speaker 1: super Bowl, multiple Super Bowls. One of the things though,
Speaker 1: that I thought found most interesting in his answer in
Speaker 1: regards to the negotiations with the Zeke team is that
Speaker 1: it's been proven over time that you don't have to
Speaker 1: have a rushing champion to win a super Bowl. He
Speaker 1: did point that out prominently after he pointed out that
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith was the first NFL rushing champion to win
Speaker 1: a super Bowight, he was the first NFL rushing champion
Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl, And he was rather emphatic
Speaker 1: what he said that. But he said, but it's been
Speaker 1: proven over time that you do not need a rushing
Speaker 1: champion to win a super Bowl. And his point is
Speaker 1: we're building a super Bowl team, and when we allocate
Speaker 1: funds to all these players, we have to have enough
Speaker 1: money to field an entire team. Didn't we question the
Speaker 1: selection of Zeke Elliott three four years ago? No? No,
Speaker 1: why not? Why not? I don't question it because he's
Speaker 1: such a good guys watched him perform these last three years.
Speaker 1: Then why not extend him. They will extend him, but
Speaker 1: not probably for we don't know what they're asking for sure, right, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, And man, that's what Jerry's point was.
Speaker 1: I think it wasn't the point you don't need a
Speaker 1: star running back. It was we need other things too.
Speaker 1: I can't just be the I'm on board. I'm on board.
Speaker 1: This is I'm one of the guys who'd like to
Speaker 1: see Zeke get into So what what you need to
Speaker 1: find out is what are they asking for? Okay, this
Speaker 1: this is the This is turning into the same discussion
Speaker 1: we had with DeMarcus Lawrence. It's the same thing. There's
Speaker 1: an end pass. Well, we don't really know how far
Speaker 1: apart they are, right, And and then it comes to
Speaker 1: your point like, yeah, Jerry did allude to uh was
Speaker 1: he's got a plan in place right to avoid a
Speaker 1: a holdout that will last into the regular season. Okay,
Speaker 1: and that's good. That's good because I'm with Brian. They
Speaker 1: need to resign. I lost my tranth. Where I was
Speaker 1: going was in terms of DeMarcus wanted a certain amount.
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones' point was, look, we're trying, like to what
Speaker 1: you said, Bill, we're trying to build a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: We need to spread it around. And the law said,
Speaker 1: that's not my problem. It's not my problem problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm been to two Pro Bowls. Yeah, And Zeke's argument,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to him right now, but his argument
Speaker 1: is I should probably be a three time rushing champ
Speaker 1: right now. I'm the best back in the NFL. So
Speaker 1: how do you how do you meet in the middle? Now,
Speaker 1: Lawrence and the Cowboys eventually did, but there's an impass
Speaker 1: right now based on market. To your point, they'll meet
Speaker 1: in the middle. They will meet, but right now, yeah,
Speaker 1: but if they but if if this turned into something,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear you say that he had a plan,
Speaker 1: because if this is going to turn into Zeke being
Speaker 1: stubborn and hold out the entire ye, then now you're
Speaker 1: in a situation and you're absolutely I'm just saying as
Speaker 1: far as team building, I'm with you, Mickey did as
Speaker 1: many great players as you can. This has turned into
Speaker 1: it's it's a great situation to have, but it's also
Speaker 1: a curse. You have to sign all these guys, and
Speaker 1: all these guys do make Pro Bowls and are all
Speaker 1: pro and do help you win football games. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, though, if it's a situation where your attitude
Speaker 1: is we've won super Bowls without it's proven it. You know,
Speaker 1: a great running back is not the recipe. If you're
Speaker 1: if that's our attitude, then you should have drafted someone else.
Speaker 1: You should have said, Okay, we could take a good
Speaker 1: running back, not a great running back at four. We
Speaker 1: could take a good running back at at fifty seven
Speaker 1: or at sixty two or at whatever. I don't question
Speaker 1: it to answer your question, Brian, because I'm glad they
Speaker 1: drafted Yeah, because because one, he is the best back
Speaker 1: in the league. Arguably he's he's living, he's lived up
Speaker 1: to that Moniker or that draft status number two. At
Speaker 1: the time, why they drafted him. The shape of the
Speaker 1: roster was to help an aging Tony Romo question, and
Speaker 1: your defense was not at close to the level it
Speaker 1: is right now. They wanted to milk the clock basically
Speaker 1: and play keepaway that way, and he was perfect for
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. And you know, he's still
Speaker 1: kind of the foundation of what they're doing offensively. I
Speaker 1: imagine when he gets back, it'll get done. You wonder
Speaker 1: if there is a compromise position on a shorter term
Speaker 1: contract of that can get him. I'm starting to hear
Speaker 1: that around the league talking to people at night, that
Speaker 1: these guys that are looking for contracts are looking for
Speaker 1: shorter term deals because of the CBA, because the unknown
Speaker 1: of the CBA, And so if guys are taking shorter
Speaker 1: term deals, Rob, you're the NBA guy here, we've seen
Speaker 1: guys take shorter contracts to get the free agency quicker.
Speaker 1: They signed what one or two year deals or something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, or anticipating a cap spike exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of guys around the league that
Speaker 1: are thinking that, Okay, the new collective bargaining agreement is
Speaker 1: going to be there's going to be a big jump,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be caught behind that jump.
Speaker 1: So maybe by what you're saying, there is to make Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's instead of a six year deal, there's a two
Speaker 1: three year deal that you could kind of work on
Speaker 1: to get to the next level. But I'm guessing a
Speaker 1: running back wants that long term deal. Yeah, I would say,
Speaker 1: there's no question. I mean, we had a great mail
Speaker 1: bad question yesterday about that, which should should running backs
Speaker 1: because of the way they're devalued as they say, And
Speaker 1: I'm not one of the de valuers. I think a
Speaker 1: running back is huge, hugely important if that's a right
Speaker 1: word describe a running back. But the question was should
Speaker 1: running backs get more guaranteed money in their first couple
Speaker 1: of years here deal? But how do you do that? Well?
Speaker 1: My answer is a great thought, but my thought My
Speaker 1: answer was, how do you determine what's the most punishing position.
Speaker 1: You could say it's running back, but linebackers would say, oh,
Speaker 1: it's us. Yeah, you know, we're in a car crash
Speaker 1: every every day, you know. So it's interesting because because
Speaker 1: that is the prevailing thoughts, right, is it firsts first
Speaker 1: round runbacks? Or do you have to prove your worth
Speaker 1: after the first year to get that and get that bump? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I mean that it was
Speaker 1: a good question. I thought. If you look at Zeke, though,
Speaker 1: if you give him a three year deal that means
Speaker 1: he plays through twenty four and twenty five and twenty six.
Speaker 1: The last thing you want to do is a running
Speaker 1: back is hit free agency at tw seven. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, you would rather say, okay, I made
Speaker 1: it to twenty nine and okay if I don't, but
Speaker 1: I got my money. They're just gonna have to guarantee
Speaker 1: him enough money that he says, I'll take all that
Speaker 1: and I won't worry about the end number. The end
Speaker 1: number is insignificant. It's how much guarantee money you get,
Speaker 1: and maybe you guarantee the whole thing. If that's the
Speaker 1: way to do the quarter. Yeah, yeah, I give you
Speaker 1: four four years for fifty million, and you say, okay,
Speaker 1: and it's all guaranteed. Yeah, that's pretty good because he
Speaker 1: is girls was guaranteed. I got to look that up. Oh,
Speaker 1: I just know that it was fourteen something per year,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I got a guarantee on and
Speaker 1: he right now, right now, if if they just came
Speaker 1: back and played between the money he would make this
Speaker 1: year next year and two friends chise tags, he would
Speaker 1: be guaranteed forty four million over four years. Now, that's
Speaker 1: only eleven million a year. You're gonna have to up that,
Speaker 1: but it's guaranteed, it's guaranteed. Todd Gurley's is forty five
Speaker 1: guaranteed four year. His is four years, fifty seven and
Speaker 1: a half million dollars signed a year ago at this
Speaker 1: time and guaranteed. It's signing was twenty one nine total
Speaker 1: guarantee forty five million, right, So okay, And you don't
Speaker 1: know what the back end of the base salaries are.
Speaker 1: And again they have to adhere to the thirty percent
Speaker 1: rule on the base salaries. And that complicates this thing
Speaker 1: because you can't hide it all in a couple of
Speaker 1: years there's the back end of the base salary. It's
Speaker 1: at his last year twenty twenty three is seven point
Speaker 1: four million with a five million dollar roster bonus. So
Speaker 1: that's twelve million basically on its last year. Because to
Speaker 1: your point about isn't Demarcus's first year base pretty low?
Speaker 1: It's one point five million, and then it goes to
Speaker 1: sixteen next year. Well, you can't do that between twenty
Speaker 1: twenty and twenty twenty one, right, right, So that's where
Speaker 1: you're getting that if the structure is important too, and
Speaker 1: you hope the agent understands what the structure part of
Speaker 1: this is because unless there is a new CBA before
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, then and again it runs through twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: But if they don't get ahead of it, then you
Speaker 1: got to adhere to that thirty percent rule. Are we
Speaker 1: more worried about Zeke's off the field or his health
Speaker 1: in a long term deal? I think naturally you are
Speaker 1: more concerned about the health of a running back. But
Speaker 1: it was proven here with Emmett that a running back
Speaker 1: can stay healthy and yeah, yeah, and Zeke has shown
Speaker 1: so far that he is healthy as can be. It appears,
Speaker 1: has not missed a game new injury correct, And I
Speaker 1: think that guys like Eddie George that played ten years,
Speaker 1: you know, productive backs and stuff like that, I think
Speaker 1: I'm more I would be more worried if I was
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan or the front office. I think I'd
Speaker 1: be more worried about the off field than I would
Speaker 1: the health myself. Right, but think about it, the really
Speaker 1: good running backs, like not just a running back, I
Speaker 1: mean the top level running backs. Usually they're not bothered
Speaker 1: by injury. They're not right, They're not you don't see
Speaker 1: a light. But with No, he had issues, don't Hopefully
Speaker 1: nobody in my room can hear me. Curly had knee
Speaker 1: problems before, right, That's why he lasted as long as
Speaker 1: he did in the draft because of the knee problems
Speaker 1: at Georgia. And he had already had had his knees
Speaker 1: operated on. So you got to take that into considering A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he should have been. He should have been one of
Speaker 1: my one of my favorite. If you gave me a
Speaker 1: Tracey between him and Zeke, I take I take Girly now,
Speaker 1: even okay, even with the injury coming out of school. No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying right now, oh no, no, no, I would
Speaker 1: take I would take Sea, but coming out of college,
Speaker 1: I was watching it too. Yeah, to your point, Brian,
Speaker 1: back in the offseason earlier, when when the Vegas thing happened, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Jones has said that's not affecting these negotiations. But
Speaker 1: you're saying just the possibility of something else coming up
Speaker 1: in the future that could see. That's where I would
Speaker 1: but see, Rob and I were at the Combine and
Speaker 1: Stephen talked about this very thing, about this contract and
Speaker 1: he mentioned girly you know, and if you're listening, you're going, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is where we're at now. Again, Mickey, you've been
Speaker 1: here doing this a thousand years. You've heard the Joneses
Speaker 1: say things, and they've done another. I mean, I get
Speaker 1: that that's part of it. But that got my attention
Speaker 1: to know. The day that we were at the Combine,
Speaker 1: we said, Okay, if that's where it's going to start,
Speaker 1: which's words it's gonna start. Yeah, And so now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're thinking, Okay, Mickey's coming up with
Speaker 1: a really good plan of Garrett Tea and stuff, trying
Speaker 1: to get that theme somewhere between ten and eleven million
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Well, that's not girly, that's something that's
Speaker 1: something else and I think it was it Charles Robinson
Speaker 1: for Yah, who had a story yesterday that and this
Speaker 1: is all sourced, you know, and a lot of it's
Speaker 1: around the league information that that teams with good backs
Speaker 1: are trying to reset that market. Yeah, not have it
Speaker 1: started fourteen plus. But that's easier said than done. When
Speaker 1: you're Zeke and you're saying, well, i've been to you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a three time rushing champ, possibly had I not
Speaker 1: been suspended six they look, they look at the deal
Speaker 1: that Kevin Dimoff did in Los Angeles and less sneat
Speaker 1: as a bad one, and they're trying to reset it
Speaker 1: to really what Freeman at with Atlanta. Freeman it was
Speaker 1: like eight million. Maybe it's it's you know, for a Zeke,
Speaker 1: it's got to be more than that. No, but but
Speaker 1: but they're they're thinking about it's everybody's saying, wow, that's
Speaker 1: got to that's a terrible deal. But that's not that's
Speaker 1: not the agents. That's not their fault. The rams are
Speaker 1: the ones that did that deal. And remember what Jerry's
Speaker 1: longest answer was, oh yeah on Friday, Yeah, no question,
Speaker 1: this is us, no question. We don't have the Rams,
Speaker 1: have the Raiders or the Eagles with the Wins deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so that's you know, that's the bottom line. And
Speaker 1: it seems like they're holding strong to it because I
Speaker 1: guarantee you that's what's going on with Melvin Gordon now
Speaker 1: with the Chargers. He's looking at Girly and saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm your guy now I want to be paid like that. Well,
Speaker 1: we have seen in history though, with the Dez Bryant deal.
Speaker 1: Was it the Marius Thomas that once Dez Bryant got
Speaker 1: his deal, the Marus Thomas signed for basically the same
Speaker 1: number right behind him. So we could say that we're
Speaker 1: not looking. But when those numbers come across out of
Speaker 1: Pacifica's desk or Stephen Jones's desk and they go, huh,
Speaker 1: that's a creative way to do that. Okay, let's let's
Speaker 1: try this plan. Right. One of the things they may
Speaker 1: be looking at also on Girly's deal where it was
Speaker 1: a bad deal, is the timing of it by doing it,
Speaker 1: by doing it with two years left on sure the deal,
Speaker 1: which is situations different than what the Cowboys cabsolute. All right,
Speaker 1: So how confident. Is Jerry that a deck deal We'll
Speaker 1: get done very soon. We explore that and much more
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Speaker 1: I was watching those before coming out here. When did
Speaker 1: those started? Like a couple of days before, three days
Speaker 1: three days before? I was watching? Yeah, good, they air
Speaker 1: after the games game show. Now tonight there's no Ranger
Speaker 1: game and so I don't know, we don't want to
Speaker 1: be early. Yeah, I have no idea when that would
Speaker 1: be eight o'clock or so check it out. And by
Speaker 1: the way, we ought to thank you. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: knew Mickey would be on this. Vicky is on Divot
Speaker 1: Patrol himself, and the and the divot patrol is out
Speaker 1: there replacing divots out on the field. Well they're putting
Speaker 1: sand in the in the that's replacing divots. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like the golf course, right, that's ving range after I
Speaker 1: walked down it. So there you have it. That's the
Speaker 1: latest from Cowboys Camp. Cowboys will be out on the
Speaker 1: feed old when will it be at an hour from now?
Speaker 1: Ten forty five? Yeah, Special teams practices twelve twelve forty
Speaker 1: five Dallas time. Yeah. Absolutely, where the special teams walk through. Yes,
Speaker 1: sorry I keep pointing at you. Sean Lee involved a
Speaker 1: special team, John Lee personal protector said he and also
Speaker 1: right guard. So he's lining up next to the deep snapper, ye,
Speaker 1: protecting and then going down trying to make tackles now,
Speaker 1: not with the first team, right but for depth purposes
Speaker 1: in case they need him. Yeah, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he kind of volunteered and said, okay, well many snaps,
Speaker 1: so you got to have depth. And so he's doing
Speaker 1: both of those right now and he hadn't done it
Speaker 1: since his second year in the league. Special teams. The's
Speaker 1: a lot of Tony Pollard too, You're trying to get
Speaker 1: him incorporated. They're mixing in with some ones. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean, you know that has to be
Speaker 1: Darius Jackson every every day here while Zeke's gone. Can
Speaker 1: add one other thing about Sean Lee. Did you hear
Speaker 1: what he said yesterday about reporting the camp? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: he flew back from California, where he already was taking
Speaker 1: a little not too far from here. He flew back
Speaker 1: to Dallas so he could fly back to California with
Speaker 1: his team because that's a special moment, and this is
Speaker 1: his tenth year and that's just kind of how he
Speaker 1: is man that I thought that was took all this
Speaker 1: stuff not logistically sound, but you know that's what he
Speaker 1: wants to do because I flew I flew home to
Speaker 1: fly back, and yeah, that's that's the essence. And if
Speaker 1: he had been watching our Cowboys training camp update on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Southwest, you to learn about that on Friday,
Speaker 1: So there's another reason to check out. You didn't have
Speaker 1: to wait till Sunday. Yeah, but you would. Sham was
Speaker 1: all over it, but you would not have heard Sean
Speaker 1: talking about it like wet him practice. He was great
Speaker 1: talking about it, right and just talking about it's this
Speaker 1: is about building a team and it starts, well, it
Speaker 1: starts in the off season. That anybody was on Friday,
Speaker 1: they but it starts the interview happened yesterday. No, it
Speaker 1: happened with us on Friday, Mickey, for the love of God,
Speaker 1: all right, we heard from the guy himself yesterday. Well
Speaker 1: we heard from him on Friday. That was my point.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to wait till Sunday. So but he
Speaker 1: was talking about the fact that hey, you're on that flight,
Speaker 1: you're talking trash with your teammates. This is about building
Speaker 1: a team, and you haven't seen your teammates for five
Speaker 1: weeks for the most part, you know, uh, and so
Speaker 1: this is a chance to reconnect and it's all a
Speaker 1: part of the whole process, the journey that they hope
Speaker 1: will wind up. We're super Bowl this year, Miami, Miami.
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn reminded us that yesterday I would like to
Speaker 1: return to Miami in the Super Bowl. Robert Quinn an
Speaker 1: interesting talk too. Yeah, he kind of said, Hey, the
Speaker 1: question was asked about the super Bowl. That's how we
Speaker 1: were reminded it was in Miami. He basically said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're all trying to get to one place that's a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. That's all from Yeah, somebody said, hey, you
Speaker 1: think out the season season. He goes, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: it's all about getting to the Super Bow. It's all
Speaker 1: about getting to Miami. I'm starting to hear that a
Speaker 1: little bit more among people in the organization. You know,
Speaker 1: about championships and podiums and super Bowls and stuff. That
Speaker 1: always kind of been something in the It was kind
Speaker 1: of a little secret, you know that you really didn't
Speaker 1: talk whole heck of a lot about but some people
Speaker 1: in prominent places are kind of talking about more. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. That's a good thing. Expectations and
Speaker 1: not to drink the kool aid. But look at the roster.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you know right now, the NFL network
Speaker 1: every night is revealing the next ten on the NFL
Speaker 1: Top one hundred is voted on by the players, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will have eight players on that list, which
Speaker 1: is the highest of any team in the league. The
Speaker 1: only one that we don't know where he ranks is Zeke.
Speaker 1: They're into the top thirty now and Zeke somewhere in
Speaker 1: the top thirty hadn't been revealed yet. But you make
Speaker 1: the top of Dack is not in the top one hundred.
Speaker 1: On defense, it was Byron Jones, Layton Vander esh Alan
Speaker 1: Smith and DeMarcus Lawrence. And on offense you got Zeke,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Zach and Amari Yeah yeah, And those the offensive
Speaker 1: players are all on the top sixty four I think
Speaker 1: Cooper was sixty four or something or sixty one, something
Speaker 1: like that. And the defensive players the highest one's Lawrence
Speaker 1: at forty five. But when you think about look at
Speaker 1: this roster, you got those eight players and that's not
Speaker 1: even including Travis Frederick or former Pro Bowl right Jason Witten,
Speaker 1: eleven time Pro Bowler. We'll see what level he's playing
Speaker 1: at as he plays this year. Dacks have been in
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, Randall Cobbs been in the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: and Robert Quinn's been in the Pro Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 1: so there's there's five more players, which goes to Jerry's
Speaker 1: point about I have a list, you gotta pay all
Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, that's why it's hard to empty the
Speaker 1: bank just for one player, and not just the top guys,
Speaker 1: but just the overall depth on paper looks really good.
Speaker 1: I was talking Rod Marinelli about that yesterday. I asked him,
Speaker 1: is this the deepest group you've had on your d line?
Speaker 1: He said yes, and he said there's really you get
Speaker 1: past Lawrence and maybe Quinn, and there's really there's very
Speaker 1: minimal difference between the first team to the third team
Speaker 1: on your defensive line. And you got I mean, you're
Speaker 1: sixteen guys and you got to cut it down to
Speaker 1: eight to ten. That's gonna be really interesting, all right, Jerry.
Speaker 1: In one of the interviews I saw that was posted
Speaker 1: online with the San Antonio Station went so far as
Speaker 1: to say I was trying to get him to say this,
Speaker 1: and it maybe maybe I listed off all these players
Speaker 1: and this in the San Antonio station did the interview
Speaker 1: right after me, and even time to think about time
Speaker 1: to think about it, I think, and he actually said
Speaker 1: in that interview that I think we've got the best
Speaker 1: roster maybe ever, which I think he got, got a
Speaker 1: little carried away, got a little carried away the century,
Speaker 1: emit this century maybe ever as in so I didn't
Speaker 1: hear the whole context of it. Maybe the question was,
Speaker 1: since you coming to Oxnard whatever, I don't know, we
Speaker 1: might have to go back to ninety three was pretty good.
Speaker 1: That's where he got a little. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: was a green band, got my ass kicked a bunch.
Speaker 1: Ninety three and ninety four might have been their their
Speaker 1: best rosters. Yeah, I don't even though they didn't go
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, I don't disagree with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that at all. San franciscot a
Speaker 1: pretty good roster too, they did, sure did. Yeah, sud Uh.
Speaker 1: Jerry came right out and said that they're gonna get
Speaker 1: the contract done. He didn't say win, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: get done. I think that's fairly obvious. And you think
Speaker 1: that'll happen during camp. They'll get a Mari done. You know,
Speaker 1: if they get a Mari done first, that opens up
Speaker 1: more room on the on the cap for this year
Speaker 1: because he's counting fourteen million. And if if they can
Speaker 1: do the deal like they did with DeMarcus, then that
Speaker 1: they salary this year will be pretty low. And and
Speaker 1: and instead of all fourteen million counting even if he
Speaker 1: counted against the cap four team. I mean, they can
Speaker 1: reduce the pro rated by the pro rated signing bonus. So, uh,
Speaker 1: that one, if they get that done, then it creates
Speaker 1: more room. I was dead wrong. I thought Dak was
Speaker 1: going to get done before training camp. Yeah I was.
Speaker 1: I was. I had that feeling like it, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: making progress, he's here every day kind of you know
Speaker 1: that kind of They weren't even taught. I didn't get
Speaker 1: that vibe, but they weren't it seeking. It seemed like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there weren't. It wasn't close. But this is the time.
Speaker 1: This is the time. Stephen Jones likes to get here
Speaker 1: and roll his sleeves up, and it always seems like
Speaker 1: at least one guy gets done, but you could talk
Speaker 1: to wouldn't speak was here, Maybe they could talk to him.
Speaker 1: See that. I guess my feeling because if Dak was
Speaker 1: because that one was going to be the domino that
Speaker 1: got all the other ones. I think when the reason
Speaker 1: I know that Zeke his holdout is not about Dak.
Speaker 1: It's more about like a maori. You know. He we
Speaker 1: talked about the seat at the table thing. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: were saying to me, it's like he just wants to
Speaker 1: be recognized one of the guys, and and his camp
Speaker 1: knows that Dak is going to needs to get done.
Speaker 1: I think if Dad gets done, then you'll see the Amari.
Speaker 1: Then maybe you'll see the z I think I think
Speaker 1: it's the opposite. I think if Dak's deal gets done first,
Speaker 1: that will get every because to me, that takes a
Speaker 1: big chunk of the pot. And now, now, if you're
Speaker 1: the agent, you're sitting there thinking, if we're gonna get money,
Speaker 1: we gotta go. Now, we're gonna we gotta get before
Speaker 1: this thing. That's why poor Byron Jones is getting squeezed. Well,
Speaker 1: Steven's already said he made a comment and I don't
Speaker 1: know when it was, but it was either the Mini
Speaker 1: camp or the OTA. Everybody know. He said about when
Speaker 1: he was asked about Byron Jones, he said, I think
Speaker 1: we would like to see that, yeah, meaning that one
Speaker 1: year deal order. Can we see that again from him
Speaker 1: before we extend him. But when you look at Dak's deal,
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna count two million against the cap
Speaker 1: this year. If you signed him the deal, it ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be two million this year, no, So you got
Speaker 1: to take that in consideration. They did have talks with
Speaker 1: with Jones's camp during the combine, Byron's camp. But he's
Speaker 1: coming off he's coming off the hip surgery. They think
Speaker 1: he's ready for a week one. But I guess maybe
Speaker 1: you're saying maybe it's a little like the d Law thing,
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm season do it again and then
Speaker 1: we'll talk. Yeah, okay, and that's only one year for
Speaker 1: him at corner, right, I mean, but he was originally
Speaker 1: in that group of guys that yeah, they kept throwing
Speaker 1: his name in. Yeah. But when Steven I heard Steven
Speaker 1: say that, I was like, oh, okay, that's probably not
Speaker 1: a bad plan. Um. Oh and by the way, where
Speaker 1: you were talking about special teams, I was I was
Speaker 1: going to throw this in there. Uh, they let both
Speaker 1: kickers kick already. Ye, Redfinn went yesterday. He made five
Speaker 1: of six. How do you say? Or where the red
Speaker 1: where the red fern grows? Mick, there's an r in there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is, Come on, Mick, let's go. We're here. It's
Speaker 1: just to remember it's where the red fern grows. We
Speaker 1: said we were gonna chart all this this year. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna not gonna not pay attention to kicking. This
Speaker 1: says r E D f E. M it's Casey with
Speaker 1: a k red far in. Well, this says m. Here,
Speaker 1: let me see that. Check his check his vision. No,
Speaker 1: it's red fern. Look there's a big font. It's that's
Speaker 1: an r N. That isn't m right, okay, thank you
Speaker 1: very much. It's this is the taste of our life
Speaker 1: with him. He won't ever admit he's wrong. What do
Speaker 1: you think? That's what it says? Somebody else's fault Yep,
Speaker 1: all right, So did you chart the kicks five for six?
Speaker 1: Five or six for red fern and five for six
Speaker 1: for so we haven't tie right now, right, yeah, although
Speaker 1: at least his uh myers missed hit the right up right,
Speaker 1: and it was a pretty stiff win too, right, Yeah, ball,
Speaker 1: the ball looked like my driving day. Yeah yeah, if
Speaker 1: if if Mahr is gonna miss a kick, it's typical
Speaker 1: of what he's gonna miss. It's gonna start, gonna go
Speaker 1: to the it's gonna go to the right, it's gonna
Speaker 1: go right at the upright. It's either gonna go over
Speaker 1: or inside or hit the upright. What's exactly what he did?
Speaker 1: What was the distance on that one? Last one? So
Speaker 1: it's probably I didn't see where Casey's miss. Okay, speaking
Speaker 1: of the kickers, So you think they'll kick today special teams?
Speaker 1: Probably not because they won't have Probably LP gets a
Speaker 1: day off, all right, so we'll see. All right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna toss to break when we can. But I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: how about the decision last year, Dan Bailey versus Brett Maher.
Speaker 1: It was bald, but it was an accurate one, right,
Speaker 1: exactly as long as Mare is stronger down to stretch
Speaker 1: this year any well, even even don't take into account, right,
Speaker 1: don't take into account any thing beyond right now, even
Speaker 1: just for a last year, that was the right decision
Speaker 1: to make. As it turned out because Bailey struggled in
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Speaker 1: I need to get that too, Bob. We can use
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Speaker 1: We all have roommates, right, yeah, can help me out
Speaker 1: with that. Maicky you help him out with that? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no thanks, I'm good. Um. It was an award winning
Speaker 1: show until that moment. Two quick things Casey read for
Speaker 1: nice and legible in the media, Guy red Fern, Well,
Speaker 1: why did I look at the roster and Brian if
Speaker 1: you made the announcement on the show that about your
Speaker 1: your hair decision. Oh, I didn't know we needed it
Speaker 1: to go into that. Okay, I'm not cutting I'm not
Speaker 1: cutting my hair for the rest of Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I remember you saying that. And we're not making much
Speaker 1: prognos either. That's what I'm saying, and you know, we're
Speaker 1: seeing five months of time. I can't wait, and I
Speaker 1: could look like Bozo the Clown. You remember Bozo where
Speaker 1: his hair was going that way. Yeah, very well, this
Speaker 1: thing I'm looking forward to most about this season. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you know there's been approve so I'm all boy. You
Speaker 1: know George Dunham at the tickets getting a mohawk. He
Speaker 1: lost the bet. He lost a bet at when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were three and five. I guess last year. Uh,
Speaker 1: he made a bet that Jason Garrett wouldn't be back
Speaker 1: for this year or something like that. He lost let bet,
Speaker 1: And so I think it's the week of the season opener.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make a big to do about it, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna get him. He's gonna have a mohawk all
Speaker 1: season long. We're gonna do it out Oh you're not
Speaker 1: gonna do it out here? No, No, it's back, Yes
Speaker 1: we do. Yeah, he's a former Cowboy. Pa. Guys there,
Speaker 1: I lost my mustache in training camp losing a bet,
Speaker 1: did you really? Nineteen ninety, Jesse Solomon was holding out
Speaker 1: on his contract and I talked to him. Uh, the
Speaker 1: night player steurge Or night before and he said, uh,
Speaker 1: he said, I'm showing up tomorrow. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: how do I How do I know that? And I said,
Speaker 1: because you've been saying you're gonna show up. He goes,
Speaker 1: I've got the ticket right here in my hand. I'm
Speaker 1: showing up tomorrow. So I got in an argument and
Speaker 1: I made a bet that he will be here tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And of course he didn't show up. Oh so on
Speaker 1: Dale Hanson Sports Special on Sunday Night, I shaved off
Speaker 1: my mustache. Encourage you to watch. Well, I can't change
Speaker 1: the story. And that's what we cowboys, and that's how
Speaker 1: we do in this country. Right, we change our history
Speaker 1: because we didn't like it doesn't fit not that's true, right,
Speaker 1: that's true. And we tried to, Uh, we tried to.
Speaker 1: We tried to convince the bartender at the hotel we
Speaker 1: were staying for the week because we were in San Diego.
Speaker 1: They practiced there for a week. Uh to she looked
Speaker 1: just like the Nazema girl. It was fair a faucet
Speaker 1: and we were gonna have her do it. And she
Speaker 1: didn't trust that. She didn't believe we were telling the truth.
Speaker 1: Of course, not talk to you for ten minutes, you'd
Speaker 1: see that somebody else was trying to convince her, not me.
Speaker 1: All right, Rob, I need that media guide for one moment, please, yes, sir? Okay.
Speaker 1: The cover of the Cowboys media guide for this year
Speaker 1: about a quarter behind this year, not a quarter there
Speaker 1: it is Marcus Lawrence. Tank Lawrence is on the cover
Speaker 1: of the media guide. And by the way, I mentioned
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones did the Little car Wash interviews, Well the
Speaker 1: one hundred five million dollars man also did it at
Speaker 1: the gazebo last night after the Jerry interviews, and so
Speaker 1: I brought a media guide with me to the first
Speaker 1: question I asked DeMarcus is have you seen this? And
Speaker 1: I could not believe it. He had not seen the
Speaker 1: media guide and seen him on the cover, and what
Speaker 1: was his reaction? He looked at it and he looked pleased,
Speaker 1: but he said, I wish they would have photoshopped it
Speaker 1: to make my biceps bigger. In my opinion, it looks
Speaker 1: like it already is photoshopped. His biceps are so big. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when's the last defensive player for the Cowboys and spen
Speaker 1: on the cover of me. I was going to look
Speaker 1: that up and I did. Maybe DeMarcus Ware. I have
Speaker 1: to go back and where the quarterback or the owner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's Juneer with this a star if that's coming
Speaker 1: off and five and eleven season, they had three straight
Speaker 1: to star media guides back in the early ots for
Speaker 1: now highest paid player in the history of the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: right right. Not worried about him, right, not worried about
Speaker 1: him at all, but getting ready before that Wednesday before
Speaker 1: the Giants game kind of a thing. He'll be ready.
Speaker 1: All indications from Stephen Jones said week one, how many
Speaker 1: questions did you get about what's he gonna do with
Speaker 1: all his money? Um? I'm not sure. I didn't stay
Speaker 1: for all the interviews six yeah, yeah, um. You know,
Speaker 1: but in talking with it, when you really look dig
Speaker 1: into his background and just where he came from a
Speaker 1: small town in South Carolina, and and really about his
Speaker 1: parents and how they instilled a work ethic in him
Speaker 1: where you know, all the other kids were, all the
Speaker 1: other kids were off doing whatever, and they made him
Speaker 1: do chores around the house. I mean heavy dude, heavy
Speaker 1: lifting stuff all from South Carolina to Boise, Idaho. That
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that takes a lot because usually
Speaker 1: you know, if you do have a mom and dad,
Speaker 1: that's kind of honous. And maybe he said I gotta
Speaker 1: get out of here. Maybe that's what he said. But
Speaker 1: he wasn't highly recruited, yeah, coming out, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying though, the fact that he did. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you do you make those trips where you know, you
Speaker 1: end up in some really strange places in your life,
Speaker 1: but it helps you get to that next level. And
Speaker 1: that's I think Boise. We've seen what Boyse has done
Speaker 1: as far as the number of players not just here
Speaker 1: but around the league that they And the other thing
Speaker 1: with him is he he admits that he didn't take
Speaker 1: academics seriously. So he actually made a stop at Butler
Speaker 1: Community College in Kansas on his way to Boise. And
Speaker 1: I think it was after that he was He did
Speaker 1: have offers from big schools closer to home, but he
Speaker 1: decided to go too. He was he was nearly halfway there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he made it to Kansas. And well the same thing
Speaker 1: with DeMarcus ware right, he has to go to Troy
Speaker 1: because he wasn't a defensive end. He was a title
Speaker 1: well and yeah, and it's right, and he was like
Speaker 1: a two hundred and ten pound. He played tight end
Speaker 1: and defensive end in high school two hundred and ten pounds,
Speaker 1: and I think DeMarcus Ware was one hundred ninety five
Speaker 1: pound UH wide receiver slash linebacker or whatever. He was
Speaker 1: at Troy in Troy, Alabama. You know. Yeah. But the
Speaker 1: other thing about this is all of us here if
Speaker 1: we were on the cover of a media guide for
Speaker 1: whatever team that we played for. Don't you think we
Speaker 1: know about it? Oh? Don't you think it? You? And
Speaker 1: there's things they're away from the team they see more
Speaker 1: than anything else. Is the UH program, the game program
Speaker 1: because they put them. They put them in their lockers
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and when they get in there early and
Speaker 1: they get nothing to do, they read the program. You
Speaker 1: know what I got. I got called out about something like,
Speaker 1: go where in the world would you have seen there?
Speaker 1: I read it before the game Scouting report, scouting report, Yeah,
Speaker 1: getting your iPad you read I've done a Mickey's Quick
Speaker 1: Things comment, I've done Opponents Scouting Report, and guys I
Speaker 1: know around the league have read it and said, man,
Speaker 1: you got our team right. And I've had a couple say, man,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? That kind of thing. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they read those a little scouting. But think about it.
Speaker 1: I mean they were that didn't come out to a
Speaker 1: couple of days before we left, right they're finishing them.
Speaker 1: Snag told him that he was going to be on
Speaker 1: the media guy. He probably you know, he's probably looked
Speaker 1: at a media guy. Don't even know what it was. Um,
Speaker 1: you should have got him to sign it autographs, which
Speaker 1: is criteria. I don't do autographs anyway. The only time
Speaker 1: I've ever done autographs was one time when I was
Speaker 1: a Rangers broadcaster and the first brought Ranger game I
Speaker 1: ever did, Warren Newson hit a I was at Tiger Stadium.
Speaker 1: Warn Nuson hits a foul ball that almost decapitated me.
Speaker 1: It came back into the press box and it whizzed
Speaker 1: by my right ear and knocked the air conditioning the
Speaker 1: thermostat off the wall behind me at Tigers Stadium. And
Speaker 1: I kept that baseball. I kept that baseball throughout the
Speaker 1: entire season. We're checking out of the team hotel, our
Speaker 1: last road trip of the year, and low to hold.
Speaker 1: Warn Nusson is in front of me checking out of
Speaker 1: the hotel. I got it out of my briefcase and
Speaker 1: said Warren, and I haven't asked for an autograph from
Speaker 1: a player since I was eight years old? Will you
Speaker 1: sign this for me? And I still almost killed me
Speaker 1: the first Major League baseball game I ever broadcast in
Speaker 1: my life. Very good, yea. You know. The other thing
Speaker 1: though on this these professional athletes are wired so differently
Speaker 1: than the rest of mankind, and they have so much
Speaker 1: more on their in their vision than what I would
Speaker 1: be like if you know, it was a big deal
Speaker 1: for me when I was in high school, you know,
Speaker 1: getting some honor as a high school basketball player, our courier, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: all district or whatever it might be. It's nothing to them,
Speaker 1: you know. They don't care about to take a picture
Speaker 1: and put it on it. Now they do care. They
Speaker 1: do care if their Madden rating is eighty nine. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because all their buddies play the game too, and they're like,
Speaker 1: what the hell's up with that? And he's got a
Speaker 1: point on that too. You on Instagram? No, alright, on Twitter,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know how to do it, all right,
Speaker 1: So or what you put on it? We got pads
Speaker 1: on today? Yes, okay, what are we looking for? As
Speaker 1: we donned the pads for the first time. You think
Speaker 1: they're gonna let the lineman go at each other's first day?
Speaker 1: Sure offense, Travis Frederick would start there. Yeah, let's start there.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Travis Fredick. Think they'll let them do it.
Speaker 1: I hope, so, I hope. So. Need to check on
Speaker 1: that between practices, but yeah, I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: they would like to think that. Travis, for he's been
Speaker 1: doing all the other stuff. You know, Garrett said, full
Speaker 1: going and we'll kind of see how it goes. He feels, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you got Antoine Woods back in there playing,
Speaker 1: you know. And by the way, three hundred and three pounds.
Speaker 1: He lost the weight that Marinelli told him to lose, right,
Speaker 1: And when I talked to Rod yesterday and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could actually see has some definition of muscle in
Speaker 1: his arm. It's not just flabbing around. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I lost thirty pounds in the last year and a
Speaker 1: half and I got no definition the thing that Frederick,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's something that we're gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: need to keep an eye on. How about Connor Williams
Speaker 1: being three hundred and twenty pounds now he's three Connor Williams. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm not going I saw him and Zach Martin accurate.
Speaker 1: I saw him and Zach Martin walking off the field
Speaker 1: together yesterday, and there wasn't a whole lot of different
Speaker 1: Connor looks like a different guy. Connor Williams is a
Speaker 1: completely different guy. So yeah, keep an eye on keep
Speaker 1: an eye on Connor Williams at left guard. Now, I'll
Speaker 1: just echo what Rod said yesterday. He wants to see
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn and Tyron Smith's that's another good I want
Speaker 1: to see that too. Yeah, what what are you doing? This?
Speaker 1: Roster had him at three ten? All right, throw it away?
Speaker 1: Throw it away. Can't spell things, you do it down.
Speaker 1: Who's going to pick up that trash? Dak Prescott will.
Speaker 1: Somebody's getting paid, Dak Prescott will come by and pick
Speaker 1: up that trash because that's what Dak does does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't sure. I disagree with that. I'm helping the
Speaker 1: economy out. Okay, I'll pick it up then, I'll all right,
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