1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: and Matt. It's a Wednesday here in Pittsburgh and uh, well, 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: the Steelers making a little bit of news on Tuesday 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: by hiring uh Frisman Jackson as their wide receivers coach 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: without every announcing that I kill you, it wouldn't be back. Yeah, 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: it's a little show. I was gonna try to run 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: that by. He was like, what's going on with Mike? 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know any news? There is that a mutual thing? 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: I I don't know. Um. I talked about this all 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: the time the media, I mean, commenting on coordinators the 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: head coaches is hard enough, let alone a new wide 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: receiver coach hiring. However, in Cleveland with him exactly. You 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: know what I know about Frisbane was he I spent 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: a are with them, with the Browns. It's not like 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna remember me or I would recognize him at 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: this point, but the coaches raved about him. I mean, 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: he got everything out of the talent that he was 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: given and was a really hard work or a very 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: cerebral player. He was a favorite among players and coaches 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: when I was there, back when he was a player 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: many years ago. Yeah, and also say this for people 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: wondering about his background. Um. He coached with Matt Candidate 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: in northern Illinois. In North Carolina State. He also worked 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: with running backs coach atdie Falker in North Carolina State. 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: His coaches in Cleveland. He was there when Bruce Arians 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator. He was there when Terry or 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: Robinsky was the wide receivers coach. Um, you know so, 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: and he was there several years with Terry Robiski interim 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: head coach when Butch got fired. When I was there, right, Um, 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: so Robinski is a very respected wide receivers coach. UM, 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: highly regarded. And so you know you're thinking, you know, 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: spending a few seasons with Terry Robiski, you might learn 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: a little something. That's a good point because I was 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: there with Terry. Again, they thought highly enough of Terry 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: to make him the interim head coach when I was 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: there when you fired. Um. Kind of a tough Southerner approach, 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: but really grabbed your attention, I'm sure. Frisman learned a 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: lot from him, and people wanted to remember. I mean 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: Robiski's son was a prospect as well. He's an Ohio 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: State guy that you know, did a little bit in 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: the league as well. So yeah, um, you know, so 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: you know it comes over from Matt Rules. Staff was 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: also with Rule at Baylor, Um coached in the NFL 46 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: previously with the Titans as well, and Mike Malarkey staff. 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: So there were a lot of ties there obviously with 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: that that Carolina Panthers organization right now with the Steelers 49 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: and the coaching with Mike Malarkey as well. Um, you 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: know the Bruce Arians connection. Uh, you know the connection 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: as other guys on the who are currently on the staff. 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: So for him running the rooneys and you know, right 53 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: right right, it makes sense. And I'll say this is 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: is an end of the roster guy who was making it. 55 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean he was never a star in the NFL. 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: Um you know, never uh, he was ever given anything. 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: He was never one of the top forty five players 58 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: on any roster that he was ever on. Right, got 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: safe to say I think he understood, he would probably 60 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: has a pretty good understanding of what it takes to 61 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: make it in the league. Um, you know, the special 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: team's aspect of things, how to how to put the 63 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: work in, as you said, you know, a hard worker. Um, 64 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: those are the things. It's almost like they hired Darius 65 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Heyward Bay without that, without Haywood Bay's high pro, high profile. 66 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: I should say, Um, you know he Hayward Bay was 67 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: a was a former first round draft pick. Well this 68 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: guy wasn't. This guy was a former college quarterback turned 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver turned you know, NFL wide receiver. I'm trying 70 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: to remember. I assume he did if when when I 71 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: was with Frisbane, if he played high percentage of special 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: teams or not. Was he a gunner or was he 73 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: a return er. He doesn't come across as the return 74 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: or jitterbuton type. But I'm sure he did some you know, 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: logged some special team snaps. I would imagine, Again, those 76 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: guys don't make the roster without it. That's a good point. 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's been a very young room, and as 78 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: an outsider, I kind of think that they've missed the 79 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Hayward Bay presents a little bit, you know, just to 80 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: be in the adult in the room, plape feel. And 81 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure Hilliard provided some of that as well. But 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, the Frisbane makes some sense here. Yeah. Um, 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: so that hires now in place, the Steelers have a 84 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: few more to make here. We're still waiting on the 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: announcement of Arrell Austin as as we taped the show 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: here on the Wednesday afternoon as the defensive coordinator. UM. 87 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: That would then leave an outside linebackers coach that would 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: then leave uh you know, the two line U spots 89 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: as well on Mike Tomlin staff. Assuming, assuming other guys 90 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: haven't been replaced or or not brought back and we 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: weren't told that to me is the most I'm that 92 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: doesn't happen that way. I'm kind of shocked by that, actually. 93 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: I you know, when when the news came out yesterday, 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: when the when the Steeler said on the press release, 95 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: I immediately started texting people. I'm like, did I miss 96 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: something here? Did I miss an announcement that I wasn't 97 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna be back? I got I got a little paranoid there. Um. 98 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: You know, so I was told that this came about 99 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: um rather quickly. Uh so you know obviously, uh, there 100 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: was talks, you know, there were you know, conversations were 101 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: had or you know, there was there was some kind 102 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: of meeting in the minds it was best to part ways. 103 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: But anyways, UM, it's Super Bowl weak and that GM 104 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: opening to well, there there is that and there the 105 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: Steelers are continuing to uh to talk to people about 106 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: that and that that is constantly changing here. But I 107 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: did want to talk about what's going to take place 108 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: Thursday night in Los Angeles, Matt and that's the NFL Honors, uh, 109 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: where they announced all the winners of the major awards 110 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: in the league's here and I thought we'd look at 111 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: at the NFL dot COM's list. They had their thirty 112 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: seven people who worked there for NFL dot Com and 113 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: in some form or fashion, UM do their votes on 114 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: who they think will win m v P, Defensive Player 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: of your Offensive Player there, all those all those different awards. 116 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: So I thought we'd go over their votes see if 117 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: we agree with those or if we disagree with with 118 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: where they're going with that. Again, these announcements will be 119 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: made at the at the Honors event at nine o'clock 120 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, so we're kind of getting a jump 121 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: on this here. But looking at the m v P 122 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: real quick before you do as usual, you and I 123 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: didn't rehearse us or plan this out. You know, it's 124 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: not our style, but it just so happens. Earliest morning, 125 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: I was on Ross Tucker's podcast and we did the 126 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: same thing, and we didn't we didn't look at other thoughts. 127 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: It was like, Matt, who do you think? And then 128 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: he gave me his guy and we kind of battled 129 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: it out. So that was a fun exercise. So I'm 130 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: on top of this right now. I like this conversation. Okay, 131 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: all right, So the winner with eight team votes on 132 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com Aaron Rodgers to vote, Yeah, that would 133 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: be my vote as well. Tom Brady got eight votes, 134 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup got too, and Matthew Stafford got one. Well, 135 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: first of all, we should preface this, and I assume 136 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: this is still the case, but this is a regular 137 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: season award, you know, so Stafford and Burrow and these 138 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: guys that have done well in the postseason should not 139 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: influence them. And I think the votes were in after 140 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: the final week of the regular season. Um Ross was 141 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: leaning more towards Brady, which I got. I thought Rogers 142 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: was a little more of a slam dunk. I just 143 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: thought there was less around him and everyone's harping on boy, 144 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: but he stinks in the playoffs. That doesn't matter, right, 145 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: This is the regular season award. He was the best 146 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: player in the league, right, pulling the curtain back. The 147 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: people who vote on this, the fifty voters for the 148 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: Associated pressness is an Associated Press award. They put their 149 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: vote in that week after the regular season has ended. Yeah, right, 150 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: so nothing that happens in the playoff matters. So I agree. 151 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: I think we both agree Aaron Rodgers is the is 152 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: the guy and should be the guy. There. Yeah, Offensive 153 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, this was a little more interesting 154 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: it is. I vote is Cooper Cup. I mean, you 155 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: have a historic wide receiver year, and as your frefaces, 156 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm hesitant to give Offensive Player of the Year 157 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: or a quarterback. I just think that they dominate envy. 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: They get to win the MVP award, right right, right? 159 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: So I think Cupp was the best offensive player that 160 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: wasn't a quarterback. He won the award. The votes here, 161 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: he gets votes. My vote would go to Jonathan Taylor, 162 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: and he was He finished second with two votes. Deebo 163 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: Samuel and Tom Brady tied for third. Okay, the Brady thing, 164 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean again, I'm a voting for a quarterback. You 165 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: missed your shot at the m d P. Yeah. I 166 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: just thought that that the if you took Jonathan Taylor 167 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: off of the out of that Colts offense, they had nothing. 168 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he was and he was dominant 169 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: over the last I don't know twelve games of the season. Uh, 170 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Cup had a great year. I get it, Um, but 171 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: he also played that seventeenth game and that factors into 172 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: me as well. Um, he was great this year. I'm 173 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to take anything away from him, but 174 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: I thought Taylor was as well. Um. I think there's 175 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: more focus from the Colt's opponents to take Taylor away 176 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: than there is Cup. You know, you remember Woods was 177 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: there for much of the year of than Beckham. They 178 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: have a formidable run game. I mean, it's harder to 179 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: focus on Cup. I'm glad Deebo Samuel at least got mentioned. 180 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: He wouldn't be my pick, but it just a tremendous year. 181 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: And along the Taylor lines, Derrick Henry was kind of 182 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: on that pace before injury, you know, so I just 183 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: want to throw him out there too. Yeah. I just 184 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: think you know, Taylor's if you're comparing Henry to Taylor. 185 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Taylor gives you more in the passing game too. Uh yeah, 186 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean he he's just he's just a nice, well 187 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: rounded player. Um. Moving on to Defensive Player of the Year, 188 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: This one, of course, has a lot of attention here 189 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, and um, I think, uh, I think we're 190 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: both on the same page on this one. I'm sure. 191 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: I mean t J would get my vote. However, I 192 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: do think there is an argument to say, in a 193 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's like fashion, it should just be Aaron Donald, 194 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he was no worse than he's 195 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: been any other year. He's maybe the best football player 196 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: on the planet. He's in his prime as an all 197 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: time great. But the numbers and the case for what 198 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: to me are stronger, They really are. Um, I will say, 199 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: and you know fans won't like hearing this, and they 200 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: didn't like when I said in a while back, but 201 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: Week twelve thirteen, Neighborhood, I would have given it the 202 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: Garrett over what but Garrett really floundered down the stretch. 203 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: I would I would. I just I mean, I thought, 204 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: what was just having a better year than Garrett? Period. Yeah, 205 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: I didn't because of the time missed, you know, but 206 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: it was closed at one point, and then you know, 207 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: Garrett Garrett essentially ended up missing the last four weeks 208 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: of the season even though he played. Yeah, he's not 209 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: even a conversation now, you know, right, that was a 210 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: difference to me. Their numbers were virtually the same, even 211 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: though what had missed some time. He was the more 212 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: disruptive player or the more productive player, I should say, 213 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: um per snap even when they were even when they 214 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: were twelve games into the season and what was what 215 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: was it ten games and Garrett was at twelve um 216 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: he was still beating he was still leading him in 217 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: total sacks. I know, I know, really since Jump Street, 218 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: what per snap was the most productive pass rusher in 219 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: the league? Oh yeah, I mean yeah yeah, uh he went. 220 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: He won the vote of the NFL dot Com media members. 221 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: Uh he got twenty votes. Aaron Donald got seven, Okay. 222 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa and Micah Parsons tied for third with one each. Okay. 223 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: Ross throughout Michael Parsons and said he would have voted 224 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: for what as well, And he made a good point 225 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: on Parsons, who I have a feeling we're gonna be 226 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: talking about here. In a minute, is they really stopped 227 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: rushing the passer with him the final month of the season. 228 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: You know, once they were healthy up front, he was 229 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: dropping into coverage an awful lot. Yeah, he would have 230 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: made a better case with more sacks and more pass 231 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: rush opportunities. I agree, I agree. But you know what 232 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: broke the sack record, which is kind of like leading 233 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: the leading Major League Baseball and home runs, you know, 234 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: and that's the that's the number that you know, you 235 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: can talk about it like nobody knows who the all 236 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: time intercept or who the single season interception leader is 237 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I covered a league and I couldn't 238 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: tell you who it is. I'm not positive. Um, you know, 239 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, every you know you can yeah, okay, people 240 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: know that. Um, sacks, Yeah, sack leaders. People know that. 241 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's a it's a high profile, uh statistic, 242 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: and you know what set the record, and you know 243 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: it was a phenomenal season. Twenty two and a half 244 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: sacks in fifteen games. Is is ridiculous. Offensive Rookie of 245 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: the year, Go ahead, last thing, I apologize that you 246 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: mentioned interceptions. The last thing I want to throw out. 247 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: There's some blad Digs didn't get any votes. Yeah, to me, 248 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: that means the panels pretty well informed, right, Yeah, I 249 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: mean you can't. You can't give up a thousand receiving yards, 250 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: right and win that award. I'm sorry, he just certainly 251 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: scanned offensive Rookie of the Year. Uh. Two guys got votes, 252 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase got twenty eight and Jalen Waddle 253 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: got one. I thought Matt Jones would have been the 254 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: one that got votes just because he's a quarterback's patriot. Um, 255 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: I too, I think we'd all vote for Chase. Waddle 256 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: was tremendous. Not as much of an impact though, I 257 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: mean many of his catches were I don't want to 258 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: say empty calories, but at the line of scrimmage, you know, 259 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's gonna be a tremendous player. 260 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: It's a good rookie class, including Nausea and Davante Smith, 261 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: and I think Javante Williams is gonna be a great player. 262 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: And I really think this quarterback class hasn't yet shown 263 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: its stripes. You know that Fields and Lands and Lawrence 264 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: are all have really bright futures. Still, UM, I am 265 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: a little surprised. Mac Jones didn't get a little love. 266 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: But Chase to me us the slam dunk. Well again, 267 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: this is this is the same thing that happens with 268 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: the m v P vote. You get one vote. Yeah, 269 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, so it's if it's a if it's a 270 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: situation like this. I mean, Chase finished to see the 271 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: regular season, his last couple of games from he had 272 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: monster games, and so that was fresh in everybody's mind. 273 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: And Jones started and it's badly and he ended badly. 274 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: That's what I was say. He just did, Yeah, struggled 275 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: down the stretch and and uh um, you know, really 276 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: pulled away that last month or yeah, I thought, I 277 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: thought Chase and Waddle He's to be played well down 278 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: the stretch as well, but not to the level of Chase. No, no, 279 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean he really separated himself. He looks like a 280 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: special player. Yeah, Defensive Rookie of the Year. This was 281 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: a unanimous selection. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I I don't 282 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't know who else you you would even consider. Again, 283 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't do much worked before I do any of 284 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: these podcasts, whether it's with you or whatever, because I'm 285 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: always say by football day every day, and I remember 286 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: and when I was this morning when I went on 287 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: with Ross. I'm thinking, I hope he doesn't ask me 288 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: whose second, Like I don't even know. I mean, of 289 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: course it's Michael Parsons. I'm like, Holland was a nice 290 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: player for Miami. Phillips was okay for them, Like, yeah, 291 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know. There were some some okay, some 292 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: guys had some decent games, you know, um, you know, 293 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: but it just wasn't to the level. I'm just looking 294 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: here at that at that draft. Um, you know, Je 295 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: got hurt um. You know, they were the other top 296 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: defensive players to In fact, they were the top two 297 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: defensive players taken everybody else ahead of them in the 298 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: first aid picture offensive players right right, So it wasn't 299 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: a great defensive draft at the top. Was even considered 300 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: the slam dut Number one. Yeah, Zaven Collins didn't play 301 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: a lot uh game and had forty eight tackles. You 302 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: know that's that's okay, Eric Stokes, I guess you could 303 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: say what was was pretty good. Um. The two Dolphins, 304 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: to me, I thought were in the conversation for number two. Yeah, Holland, 305 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, was would be there. Uhlari at eight 306 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: sacks this year. I didn't realize he ended up with 307 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: that man. He's a keeper. Yeah, I mean, so maybe 308 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: give him a little bit. But it's still not close. Yeah, yeah, 309 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm close. I mean what I think is interesting and well, 310 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, we'll do a lot of mock drafts and stuff, 311 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: as we already have. I've seen some people mocking linebackers 312 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: to Dallas, you know, a guy like well, they seem 313 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: to like to collect them. They do seem to try 314 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: to collect them. But you know, at to Ross's point, 315 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: would they be better served just saying, hey, Micah, you're 316 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: an edge rusher, now forget about everything else, or drafting 317 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: an edge rusher and letting Parsons be what they drafted 318 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: and to be right, right, I mean he's capable of 319 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: all the above, which is any of them? Yeah, I 320 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: think it might be. In fact, we did our our 321 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: mock draft for Steelers dot Com that will release next week. Yeah, 322 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: and that was my thinking with that position. I had 323 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: them taking an edge dresser, I'm not gonna say who yet, 324 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: just to allow them to kind of use Parsons as 325 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: a as a queen on the chessboard. Um, then you 326 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: still have the opportunity to rush him off the edge 327 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: if you want, or you can, you know, bring him 328 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: up the middle, let him, let him drop into coverage, 329 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: do the things that you drafted him to do. People 330 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: forget they put him at edge dresher because everybody else 331 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: got hurt. Yeah right, all right, he began his football 332 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: life as an edge rusher. But he's under developed there. 333 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: You know. Ross's point was, well, what if we can 334 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: just let him do that and develop past fresh moves 335 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: and counters with the sky's the limit and versatility is great. 336 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: But I think both of you, gut have a very 337 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: strong point of maybe do one or the other instead 338 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: of both, right right, Yeah, just again just having the 339 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: ability to to do different things with him as opposed 340 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: to uh Man. I just think he's a football player. 341 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: What I find interesting is I've already heard of this 342 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: draft cycle. A lot of analysts are like, well, who's 343 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: the next Michael Parsons. You know, I don't know that 344 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna be something you can just find left and right. 345 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: I think he's pretty unique. Yeah, he might be a unicorn. 346 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: Um that that's there's always that possibility. Comeback player of 347 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: the Year. This one to me, um, I I don't 348 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: know who they voted for, who do who would you 349 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: have voted for? Well, again, I had this conversation earlier 350 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: today and the two names I came up with, we're 351 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Burrow and Dak. And I preface it by saying, I 352 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: kind of don't like this award because what are you 353 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: coming back from? Is it always have to be an injury? 354 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes guys come back from a down year, which basically 355 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: is kind of a backhanded compliment, like you kind of 356 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: stunk last year and now you got back to being okay. 357 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: I gave it the borough and I didn't factor in 358 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: the postseason, and you know, I just thought that it 359 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: wasn't all wasn't himself post injury. You end up having 360 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: a calf and you know, he fought through them some things. 361 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: I expect Dak to look like that next year when 362 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: he's a little further removed from the injury. And Burrow's 363 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: injury was pretty substantial and it was late in the year. See, 364 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: I would have voted for Dak Prescott. And here's why. 365 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: What was Burrow coming back from? How can you become 366 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: back Player of the Year when you've only played ten 367 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: games in the NFL? Yeah right, all right? You know, yeah, 368 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: what is what's the baseline. I don't know we ever 369 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: saw it. Um, you know, people talking about, well he 370 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: came back so much stronger. In fact, you don't know 371 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: that for sure. Oh I don't know about that. Yeah, yeah, 372 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean he he could have been this He could 373 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: have been this guy all along. He just didn't have 374 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: the same talent around him last year. Um. You know, 375 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is is he played ten 376 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: games last year as a rookie, whereas Dak Prescott was 377 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: was an established NFL player, got hurt and came back 378 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: from that, hence being Comeback Player of the Year. And 379 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is supposed to factor in. Again, 380 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm not big on this award in general. But DA's 381 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: injury was gruesome, you know, Yeah, I mean it was 382 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: a scary one that you don't want your kids to 383 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: watch the injury like, so it carries a lot of weight. 384 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's many others, you know, like right right, 385 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: there's probably some offense offensive offensive lineman who never win 386 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: this kind of award because well they're not high profile players. 387 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: Right Again, I'm not big on this award. I mean, 388 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: I guess it's a good way to recognize someone that 389 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: overcame a hardship, but I don't know, I'm not big 390 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, uh, Coach of the Year. There were 391 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: three or three guys that got votes. Okay, it was 392 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of this was actually the this was the closest vote. 393 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: I went a little outside the box here, Like Ross 394 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: was shocked when I said Sean payton Um. And my 395 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: thought was kind of on a Tomlin vane was you 396 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: almost got the Saints to the postseason without a passing game, 397 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, you know, like that they could have easily 398 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: bottomed out with a low level coach, much like the Steelers, 399 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: you know a couple of times in the last couple 400 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: of years, you know, the non Roethlisberger year or either 401 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: Tomlin's in the hunt for this one even this year too. 402 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: To get that he would he wouldn't get any votes, 403 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: but he finished nine seven and one with this team 404 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: that was dead last. Stopping the run. Yeah, that was 405 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: what's fat offense running the football. I mean most of 406 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: the time when that when those kind of numbers happened 407 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: to a team, you go, you you're lucky to win 408 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: six games, right right right? I don't think people look 409 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: at coaching the year that way. Like who maximized what 410 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: they had and in a way, I even think Baltimore 411 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: is in that conversation, like if you're gonna overcome all 412 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: those things and at least be in the hunt late 413 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: in the year like the Saints. That's why I always 414 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: talk about that Tomlin Harror Bob pay level coach, Like 415 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: you can throw a lot of bad stuff at them 416 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: and they still can hover around five. They find a way. Um. 417 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: That being said, my vote would have gone to who 418 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: won the award according to the NFL dot Com voters, 419 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: Mike Rabel, Yeah, he did a lot of the same stuff. 420 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: I mean, he overcame the loss of of every you know, 421 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: when we went into the season, when the season started, 422 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at this. Look at this Titans offense. 423 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's Derrick Henry, it's Julio Jones. Just 424 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: it's it's Brown. Um, he didn't have those guys for 425 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: most of the year and fifty snaps together, and yet 426 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: they still had the number. They still the top record 427 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: in the a f C. Um Again, this is a 428 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: regular season award. I just I think he did an 429 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: outstanding job this year. Yeah, it was a strong case 430 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: for him, and I think he will win it. Um. 431 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: I also think that team has really taken on his 432 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: tough guy persona both sides of the ball. They're very, 433 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: very physical, both lines of scrimmage. Defense improved. UM. I 434 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: also think too, like Steelers played the Titans at one 435 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: point this year, and are the folks are listening? That 436 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: Titans team that the Steelers saw was really decimated and 437 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: the fact that that franchise got the first overall seat 438 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: in the a f C after watching that game is 439 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. Yeah. I mean they kept their head above water. Um, 440 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: winning just enough. I mean they beat the Rams, Uh, 441 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: they beat Kansas City, they beat Buffalo. I mean they 442 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: did some things this year. They had some great wins 443 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: and some terrible losses. They lost the Jets and I 444 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: think Houston. But yeah, absolutely, Zack helps a little bit too. Yeah, 445 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: Zack Taylor got thirteen votes to finish second and Matt 446 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: Lafleur got two votes to finish third. Okay, I'll take 447 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: Peyton over my two guys. Those two guys. Yeah, No, 448 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: I agree as Um. I agree as well. But that's 449 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: gonna do it for this segment. Um, We're gonna take 450 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: a break when Matt and I come back Uh. Lance 451 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: hear Line did a unlock draft. Like to talk about that. 452 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: Lansa works for the NFL dot com as well. We 453 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: will do that right after this. 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