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Speaker 3: A man that can't comfortably say this bitch was really

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Speaker 3: being inappropriate with me and writing anything like Nike A

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Speaker 2: That's actually how I got on the show. That's perfectly

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Speaker 3: So welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica

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Speaker 3: and I'm Mila. Happy Wednesday, Happy hump Day family. How

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Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? I am I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great.

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Speaker 3: You know, I feel like as I get older, you

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Speaker 3: like I can do it, and then there's always these

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: I just had a realization, what, Mela, what you are

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Speaker 3: I never equated it to that because I've all, like

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Speaker 3: like a Mother God. Like Mother God. It's fucking psycho

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Sorry, don't abandon your family like Mother God and

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Speaker 2: I'm great, I'm good to be here with y'all. This is,

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Speaker 1: So perfect, you look comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Lean him back and shit, we'll be friends. That's my

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Speaker 5: Trump's the sex coach.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me see you, let me see your demographic,

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Speaker 1: How did you? Why?

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Speaker 3: Mike's a very handsome man. There's only like two niggas

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah sure, and then it just don't look good

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Speaker 3: That's true. A man that can't comfortably say this bitch

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Speaker 2: That's actually how I got on the show. Tell us

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Speaker 1: I was like, I went from hoe into I'm a husband.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was never really trying to be a who.

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Speaker 4: I resonate with this, believe what our whole show is

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Speaker 7: About five years that was fun, but now three hundred

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Speaker 4: Hey, we were there, you know, turned on and I

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what life is, just a bunch of errors.

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Speaker 2: No, so like the husband switch turner. I was deployed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little and like blaming shit and like

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Speaker 1: Wait, so tell me how you got on.

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Speaker 2: Oh my bad, my bad, my bad bad. So I

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Speaker 4: I don't say that you had had enough of these hoes.

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Speaker 4: They just wanted to fuck?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Ever, No, that's one hundred percent false. Like you know,

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Speaker 3: But what made you feel.

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Speaker 4: Like they just wanted to They were like text you

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Speaker 2: No, I think they were trying to get in serious conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think that that that's that's just what they wanted

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Speaker 2: can we do more than just fucking? Like I don't

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Speaker 3: That it was I really I really enjoy hearing a

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Speaker 1: So then from there they then your friend said you

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Speaker 2: Hell no, He was laughing his a off. He was like,

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Speaker 2: what man that can get pussy? That ain't no girls

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Speaker 2: why would you say that, bro, you because he's not

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about the helmie.

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Speaker 1: Right there, but he ain't getting pussy, like you.

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Speaker 3: Not there yet?

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Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, you know what I mean. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: who even goes on Facebook? No more? A Facebook message

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Speaker 2: and it was like applying for the show. And I

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Speaker 1: It was just like it sounds like it was off

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Speaker 2: He was looking for love, but I wasn't, like I

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Speaker 2: I ain't got time for you. I ain't got time

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Speaker 3: Had you watched the show at that point?

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Speaker 2: Never?

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Speaker 5: Okay, never?

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Speaker 2: I never I heard of this show.

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Speaker 5: I was like, there's mostly been only white women.

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Speaker 2: It was zero. I watched zero episodes, And at that

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Speaker 2: He's the goat host of the show, right, he was

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Speaker 1: But has it been around twenty years?

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Speaker 2: It's been around since one.

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Speaker 1: It has been around that long. We're in high school.

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Speaker 1: The fuck.

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Speaker 2: It has been around since O one. But no, I

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Speaker 2: That's just how I knew it was a white show.

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Speaker 2: But I was why not?

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Speaker 3: Were you like one of two black guys or something

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Speaker 1: Maybe three?

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Speaker 2: It's a good question. I think. I think after the

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Speaker 1: How long did you How long did you last?

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Speaker 1: Mate?

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Speaker 2: I got sent home. There's a thing to call hometowns

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Speaker 3: But you you opted to go home?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: No, tell you inside scoop.

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Speaker 2: They they I got I got sent home. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: He got sent home, Jamila, Okay, mouth, Okay.

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Speaker 3: His mom told him, don't come home. No, who can't

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Speaker 5: Don't bring a non black woman home. Let me translate.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, you know what I find if it's

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Speaker 4: curious about this to me? And you know, how how

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Speaker 4: old were you when you were on the Bachelor one?

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Speaker 4: You were tired of these hosts texting you? But then

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Speaker 1: But it is kind of.

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Speaker 4: A different mentality going in, like they're not they know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think about it like this, like if

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Speaker 2: y'all max, probably six, right, unless they ask me exactly

447
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 2: who my type is. Right, So let's say six women

448
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 2: right from a sexual and just looks perspective, and then

449
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Speaker 2: out of those six women get oh that think things

450
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,680
Speaker 2: like ten eleven weeks, twelve weeks to get to know her,

451
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 2: for her to get to know me, And so I

452
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,199
Speaker 2: think it's it's more than just a meat market, I think.

453
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,239
Speaker 2: But I mean, I ain't gonna lie to you, like

454
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 2: when you get off the show, or will you go

455
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,760
Speaker 2: on Bachelor in Paradise. Bachelor of Paradise is what you're

456
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Speaker 2: talking about.

457
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Speaker 1: You did that one too, I did.

458
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Peanut Gallery over there.

459
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 5: There's never been a black bachelor.

460
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 2: There has Yeah there was, yeah.

461
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 5: One time in twenty years. Once in twenty years.

462
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, once in twenty will be in twenty twenty four,

463
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 2: once in twenty three years. Yeah, it's crazy.

464
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 3: I can see being a Bachelor.

465
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Speaker 4: I mean it's it is such a phenomenon, like I

466
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 4: like the kind of loyalty these contents, like as you

467
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,880
Speaker 4: as a contestant, and like the Bachelorette, like the fans.

468
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 1: There's like such super fans.

469
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 4: I mean there's podcasts literally just just about the Bachelor,

470
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 4: and they kill it, like they get crazy.

471
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 2: He listened to Black Girls One Road, shut Out.

472
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they kill it.

473
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 3: Like there's such a there's such a huge market.

474
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: I think at one point that show, that franchise was

475
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 2: the second biggest unscripted television show in America behind Shark Tank.

476
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 2: And so yeah, the show is huge. I mean going

477
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,199
Speaker 2: to other countries and getting recognized is pretty cool, Like

478
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 2: I never thought that would happen. So it's a big show.

479
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 4: So then from there, how how did you get from

480
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 4: there into sex coaching and wanting to be a sexologist

481
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 4: and like, were you always interested in sex?

482
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Speaker 3: And like, yeah, I mean not, Okay, that's a stupid question.

483
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 3: Were you always interested in I guess coaching, coaching, leading

484
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Speaker 3: in the sex industry.

485
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Speaker 2: So what's funny is that I remember I was in

486
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 2: I was eighteen, and I told my homie shout out

487
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 2: Jay caused me. I was like, bro, I'm thinking about, like,

488
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 2: what if I became a doctor of sex. I really

489
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: I remember saying that at eighteen. I was like, look,

490
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have money, my wife gonna be uh good,

491
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: she gonna be feeling good because I'm gonna be sexual.

492
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Speaker 2: What it would also have a mindset to understand some

493
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 2: things from a mental aspect. I said, well, mama gonna

494
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 2: be hapy because I'm a doctor. Like I really thought

495
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: about all these different aspects of that, and then you know,

496
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: obviously life goes on, and then I just came back

497
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: into the field for a few reasons.

498
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Speaker 1: How old were you when you lost your virginity.

499
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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever said it.

500
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Speaker 5: Eleven was a girl older than you?

501
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, significantly.

502
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Speaker 2: What's significant at eleven? Like yeah, so yeah, she was four.

503
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Speaker 1: Nineteen, w we gotta go find her.

504
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Speaker 3: That's not that's that's pedophilia.

505
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Speaker 5: It is okay, is your nanny like a girl in

506
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Speaker 5: the neighborhood.

507
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Speaker 2: But I remember when I was five years old. Yes,

508
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: women do stuff too, for sure. When I was five

509
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: years old, my babysitter, like yeah, like fondle. It was

510
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: like I remember, I was in Germany, were playing hide

511
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: and go seek, and I came upstairs and she was

512
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: naked on the bed and like, so yeah, there's definitely

513
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 2: moments that I think helped me to become a sexologist,

514
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 2: to understand and to work through my own emotional wounds,

515
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: and to really I got into the field, like will

516
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 2: ultimately put it, because there's like four things. But the

517
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: last straw, I guess was when I didn't know what

518
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: to do in the situation my X we had a miscarriage,

519
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 2: and so I was like, I don't want to be

520
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: a dumb dude. I don't cheat, and we weren't having sex,

521
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: and so it was like that shit was piecing me

522
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: off right, and I didn't know what to do. But

523
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 2: I didn't know I was ignorant. The time, I didn't

524
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 2: know how to because we could talk about my son

525
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: and say how bad guys are, right, But it's two

526
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: sides to a story, and it's two sides to a relationship,

527
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: and it's two brains in a relationship unless you're in

528
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: a throuble, right, then it's three or more. And so

529
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 2: like I didn't know how to. I didn't understand that

530
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: what if she's not conveying something that nothing is not there? Right,

531
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Speaker 2: It's like and this is where you know, you got

532
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: to convey how you feel because is like your partner

533
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: isn't a mind reader. But at the same time, I

534
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: want it to be better to be able to pick

535
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: up on social keys, to be able to pick up

536
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: on just a little just small things.

537
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really happy that you just, you know, called

538
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 3: a spade a spade. I think a lot of a

539
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: lot of men, there's so much ego, and there's so

540
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 3: much patriarchy, and there's so much fucked up rhetoric around men,

541
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: like masculinity and femininity, and like with how that shows

542
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: up that a lot of men that I know have

543
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: lost their virginity really early to women that are significantly

544
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 3: older that are it's it's like it's it's it's molestation

545
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: or you know, really rape, and they don't equate it

546
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 3: as such as trauma because they're like thinking that they're

547
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: the young man, like the man of some sort, or

548
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: they're just like because they're a man, that that's not

549
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 3: a real thing. And so they are carrying this trauma,

550
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: unhealed trauma and not even processing or recognizing how it

551
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 3: relates to how they treat women or how they show

552
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 3: up or like even man not recognizing that like damn,

553
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: I don't know shit about how I can support this

554
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: woman or what like what this looks like. And then

555
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: they just they're okay with that. They keep moving through

556
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: the world with that, you know, that perception like just

557
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: I guess it's mostly just like compartmentalizing and am in

558
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: a way that like, well, this doesn't mean that and

559
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 3: just moving forward. And I think that like if any

560
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: meno is into this right now, or women who have

561
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: partners that have experienced things like that and they like

562
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: blow it off or you know, sweep it under their carpet,

563
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: like it's really time to start understanding like yourself in

564
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 3: a way that recognizes trauma is trauma or else you

565
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: cannot process it and you cannot heal from it, and

566
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: you'll project those those you know, that that form of

567
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: abuse onto other people.

568
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Speaker 5: Even if it's not just like that, you know.

569
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Speaker 3: And I think it's just such a it's so fucked

570
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: up that we live in this world that kind of

571
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 3: makes it okay for boys to like have these these

572
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Speaker 3: sexual experiences with people significantly older than them, and they

573
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Speaker 3: don't really we just don't really talk about it as

574
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: what it is.

575
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Speaker 2: I think that's a part of the issue right there,

576
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: is that we in our society talk about how niggas

577
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: ain't shit, and I agree, niggas ain't shit a lot

578
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: of the times, right, But what we don't hardly ever

579
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: talk about is that at some bitches ain't shit either,

580
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: and so like, but that aspect, since we can't have

581
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: that conversation, right, A lot of men just compartmentalize things

582
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: and just put that down. But women do the same thing,

583
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: put stuff down, compartmentalize fawning, right, and so therefore you

584
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: got both people just like a cycle. It's a fucking cycle,

585
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: and so like that's what it is. And so I

586
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 2: wanted to kind of stop that.

587
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Speaker 4: I can't help but think that like because I too,

588
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 4: have met a lot of men that have been raped

589
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 4: or molested in their childhood and they won't.

590
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Speaker 1: They have a hard time calling it that.

591
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Speaker 4: And I think, I wonder maybe you can shed some

592
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Speaker 4: light on this because I'm not a man, but I

593
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: feel like rape, well two, I to have to say

594
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: that out loud somehow that becomes part of your identity.

595
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: And if and like a man getting raped, I want

596
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 4: to say, feels like a feminine problem because so many

597
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 4: women experience this, so it they almost feel like it

598
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 4: feminizes them in some way, like they're a little like

599
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: they're bitch, you know, like they and so, And because

600
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: they don't acknowledge it as so they try to empower

601
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 4: themselves and say, oh, yeah, I fought my babysitter when

602
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: I was twelve and she was twenty two, you know,

603
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: and it was like I was that nick. It was experience,

604
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 4: because to say I was raped feels emasculating.

605
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Speaker 1: Emasculating.

606
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, words matter, words matter? Where's matter? Right?

607
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: So Like I'm wondering if it's that word in particular

608
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 4: that doesn't allow men to really acknowledge. I mean, I'm

609
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 4: sure it's more than that, but I wonder I'll so

610
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 4: if that word, in particular, as it pertains to a man,

611
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: makes them feel like we weak or like, ah, that's

612
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: not what happened. I can't relate to that. Well, and

613
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: don't get raped, But think.

614
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: About the word rape in general. I'm gonna have to

615
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: put a trigger rinny on this episode, but just in general,

616
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 3: even for women.

617
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Speaker 5: I've been raped, and it took me a long.

618
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: Time to say that that word, particularly because it felt

619
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: aggressive and not that it had to be a part

620
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: of my identity, but that that was too heavy of

621
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: a burden to put on somebody. Like even if someone

622
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: has forced themselves on a woman, a woman's not gonna

623
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: be like it's you're a rapist, you raped me. It's

624
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: like it almost feels like I can't say that, you

625
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like I can't say that, Like

626
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: I won't say that because most women, let's be real,

627
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: like get raped by people they know, you know, and

628
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: like it just feels like this heavy, this heavy like

629
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: sentence to put on someone, like it's such a huge accusation.

630
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: Even if it is what it is, you're not going

631
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: to like say that. And so I think it's a

632
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: heavy word, but like it triggers men with women so differently,

633
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 3: you know, because I do think it makes men feel

634
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: like in some ways weak, and I think women too,

635
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: But for women it's just more scary to be like

636
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: the woman who made that accusation.

637
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it's just like an automatic thing, like

638
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: you're born a man, you're born a woman, therefore you

639
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: think this way. I think it's just the conditionings we

640
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: have a society, one hundred percent, Like I grew up

641
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: in a you know environment in Dallas and where being

642
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: light skinned going to big t and like niggas want

643
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: to test me, you know what I mean, just because

644
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: of the melanin in my skin, right, And I think

645
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: the same thing when we talk about, you know, taking

646
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: advantage of someone like, it's the the culture around it,

647
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: truly what it is. I think that when you mentioned

648
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: the word feminine, I think that even the way we

649
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: think of it is incorrect in terms of male female.

650
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: We all have this within us, right, and so I

651
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: think of a person who has both qualities, and I

652
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: think Kanye West has both qualities right truly and lives

653
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: both sides of that to be able to have a

654
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: plan to make that shit happen, but then also to

655
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: be creative as fucking then just to sit with what's

656
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: going on. And so I think that my girl and

657
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: I talk about this often in terms of what we

658
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: see as a man right, the ability to have both truly,

659
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: like the marriage of the two, Like to be able.

660
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 5: To the feminine and the masculine.

661
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be able to be a nigga. Don't mean

662
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: like that don't mean you are not hard. That don't

663
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: mean that you were queer of some sort. That just

664
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 2: means like you able to speak on your shit and

665
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: then stand up and stand on that. Right. I think

666
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: that that, I think truly that makes us stronger. You

667
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: feel me like we talking about what strength? Did you

668
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: mentioned the word weak mealer? Right? That makes you stronger?

669
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: Male or female? Right?

670
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: So, like growing up, I'm curious about your upbringing and

671
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: just your history with sex, Like with sex something that

672
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 4: your parents talk to you about or was it something

673
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: that you kind of had to like do your own

674
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: due diligence on, Like did you able to talk to

675
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: your parents about sex at all or like how to

676
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: have good sex? Or I mean probably not, that's the reach.

677
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: But like you're from Texas, my dad is from Texas.

678
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 4: I don't talk about that yp of shit. But yeah,

679
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: I'm just curious, like, did you have that kind of

680
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 4: openness in your in your bringing?

681
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: Not at all, I would say. I remember one time

682
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: I think my mom called me looking call me looking

683
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: at like a Playboy magazine of some sort, right, and

684
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: then she got mad at me or whatever, and my

685
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: grandma was like, at least he's reading Never.

686
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Granny, I never get that.

687
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: Shut out, so you feel me?

688
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: And then not at least he's reading the pictures, Granny,

689
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: you know you feel me.

690
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: It was words in it, but uh, you know what

691
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: is a wreck? Right? You know you don't know if

692
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: we talk about the country were talking about, and so like,

693
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: there wasn't I remember mom when I was like eleven,

694
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen, maybe she sent me she gave me a

695
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: pamphlet of like how to look at your testicles or

696
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: whatever it is, make sure they straight. And that was

697
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: really about it. Oh and then my aunt I remember

698
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: her saying one time she said, because I got caught

699
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: watching porn or something, and she said, uh, he got

700
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: to learn from somewhere.

701
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: Oh no, ye.

702
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: Would you say there was like one six?

703
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 4: Because I feel like, because now you work in this

704
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 4: space and it's you know, like tantra specifically, it's it's

705
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: it's like for a straight black man from Texas, I'm

706
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: not being a what do you call yourself geographically discriminative.

707
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: I'm just curious because like that's such a I don't

708
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 4: want to say it's not a wild practice.

709
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: What's the word I'm looking for?

710
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 5: Foreign It's not.

711
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: It's taboo. It's not traditional for a black person period.

712
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: We think anything outside of Christianity is the devil.

713
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Buddhism, Like, how.

714
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: Do you go from not having you know, any sort

715
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: of like guidance per se then to this space like

716
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: was there? Because a lot of times I do find

717
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: that men that are sexually explorative and very open usually

718
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: there's like that one partner that like bust them open

719
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: and that one woman that like opened them up. Was

720
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: that is that the case for you or was it

721
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: kind of just like a journey of like an un

722
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: like um blossoming.

723
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't think nobody had to bust me open.

724
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: I was just I came out, for lack of a

725
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: better word.

726
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: I came out ready. But yeah, I didn't have that

727
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: experience the work I was with somebody who just turned

728
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: me out per se.

729
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to turn you out, but just like

730
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: opened your mind sexually for you to just be open.

731
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: No, so like I'm not I'm from Texas, but I

732
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: live around the world from from child up right living

733
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: in Europe, which definitely opens your eyes up. And then

734
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: as a young man I went back to Europe and

735
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: later for five years. And so I grew up Christian

736
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: in Black Church. But I think one of the dopest

737
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 2: things that you could do is explore for you and

738
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: be authentically you. And so my grandma and I just

739
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: talked about this too. She was She's very Christian. It

740
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: was like, Mike, my man can't jack off or whatever,

741
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: or he can't you know what I mean.

742
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, you mean like your grandmother.

743
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like.

744
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: She's telling you about her partner.

745
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: No, I had to like open it up right because

746
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: she we don't have that relationship, but she respects what

747
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: I do, and I respect her as a human and

748
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: a woman and a sexually liberated individual. And I was like, well,

749
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: don't you want him to last longer? Don't you want

750
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: him to be able to know what to do and

751
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: you know, be it there for you? And then like

752
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: we're just having conversations, and she kind of like, oh, okay, okay,

753
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: you know, and so like you could be a Christian

754
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: and still be a and receive lots and lots of

755
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: pleasure sexually and give less. Of course, I know, I'm

756
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: with you. I give you.

757
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: I was more so saying like, you know, I know

758
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: the practices that you guys are doing in Tantra are like,

759
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: you know, if for someone who's not who hasn't begun

760
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 4: to kind of journey into that's would be like.

761
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: What the fuck are y'all doing over there? You know

762
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: I think this, I'm sorry that cuts you off.

763
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: No, I always say, it's like level from where we

764
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: are is like starting off at level.

765
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: Ten and I and I would say, and I told

766
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: Erica this too. I'm like, I'm a pretty open bitch.

767
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: You know, I'm pretty open as a you know, regular

768
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: listener may know. But there were points in this process

769
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: where I was like, this is very interesting because it

770
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: is it's lineage based. We're learning like practices and meditations

771
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: that are thousands of years old, and it's very foreign.

772
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 5: If someone if I like, you got to ease.

773
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 3: People in, but like I what I really like, Well,

774
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: there's only a handful of black kids, like students in

775
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: our cohort. But also like I think that me and

776
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: Mike have talked a lot a lot about this, but

777
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: even back to what we were saying about the masculinity,

778
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: I think that there's been like a heavy cloak over

779
00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: society's eyes, particularly for Black people because slavery. But there's

780
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: this idea for men. I want you to listen closely, gentlemen,

781
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: there's this there's this false idea of masculinity for men,

782
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 3: and I think it was the best like kool aid

783
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: they could have given the men, because they're with most

784
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: men or alpha men, how they act out in their

785
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: masculinity is so far from masculine. It's it's it's like

786
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: they've so they're so confused that in fact, the most

787
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: masculine man is able and willing to invite in his

788
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: feminine traits because then there's balance. And even for Black

789
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: women it's been we've been like we've been villainized because

790
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: we are masculine. And even for black men, like well,

791
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 3: that's why I date white women because Black women are

792
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: too masculine. And it's not that we're too masculine, it's

793
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: that we are we're able to swing on the pen,

794
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: you know, swing back and forth on the pendulum for

795
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: what we need. But the truth, the truth is for

796
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: both parties, we need to have balance and to be feminine,

797
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: I need to be able to fucking fuck you up.

798
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: You need to know I'm not to be fucked with

799
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: because I have cubs and I have family and I

800
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: have to go get the paper and I can take

801
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: care of myself.

802
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 5: And there's also for men.

803
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: You have to be able to cry and acknowledge your

804
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 3: issues and like all these things and be self reflective

805
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 3: and that's actually a masculine man. And to have control

806
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: and discipline over yourself, not to cheat, and to be faithful.

807
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: And niggas are so men. When I say niggas, I

808
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: mean men. Just for those who are just joining us,

809
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: we say niggas and it could mean many things. But

810
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: but you know, I just think that men have this

811
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: idea that you have to like pound your chest fuck

812
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: as many bitches as you can, and that is what

813
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: a masculine man is. And it's so far from the

814
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: truth because you know, in the words a geezy, but

815
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: it's true. If I'm a woman or a man of

816
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: my word, he lied, he did lie. I'm sure he

817
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: did lie because he obviously cheated. But when Jenny said

818
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: I cheated, listen, I wasn't saying Jenny was wrong.

819
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure Geez probably fucked around.

820
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: He was trying to get with fucking me along. I

821
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: would be too, he said, let me get in this.

822
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 3: I would be too.

823
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't see it.

824
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: I want to say something to that.

825
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: Don't want you to finish your thought yea, but okay,

826
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: my thoughts be long.

827
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I get long winded.

828
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 5: I get high.

829
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: That's the problem.

830
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 5: So I just think that.

831
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: There's this huge, this huge confusion in our culture and

832
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: even for women too, thinking that that's what masculinity means.

833
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: Or if fucking Drake paints his nails yellow, he's sassy

834
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: or whatever the weird shit you know, you wear this

835
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: outfit or you wear the man person, like that's the

836
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: least of the everybody's work, Like how are you holding down?

837
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: How are you holding me down? And how am I

838
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: holding you down? And I just think like it's the

839
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: balance of both. We both have to have equal parts.

840
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: But particularly me and Mike have talked about this for

841
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: like what we have gone, you know, gone through this

842
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: process is two year process of completing this program is

843
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: really for our people. And of course I'm here for everybody.

844
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: I'm a people person, and you know, like we're all

845
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: pink on the inside.

846
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 5: What never, no, whatever.

847
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: But the point is.

848
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: I had a very weird visual when you're saying.

849
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: When we open up this flesh box.

850
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: All these words all flash box.

851
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a flashbox. Essentially we're being just a

852
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: flesh suit.

853
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: Flesh suit. I got that.

854
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: I got that from somebody. It is though essentially we

855
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: are we are, we are souls just utilizing this body

856
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: so we can touch and feel in this lifetime, you

857
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But like, I think, particularly like

858
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: for black people, our sexuality and our pleasure and our

859
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: idea of masculine and feminine has has been so far

860
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: off because we've been suppressed for so long in so

861
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: many ways that like this work is extremely important for

862
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: us to like kind of spread the word of the

863
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 3: good words because I just think, you know, you asked Mike,

864
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 3: like how do you get into this that someone busts

865
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 3: him open like a bitch or something.

866
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 5: But I just think, like if.

867
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: If you just take twenty minutes to just have common

868
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: sense man or woman and you're like, let me just

869
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: be better, Let me just be better. Let me just

870
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: be a good person and respect the person I'm with

871
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: and get to understand the other opposite sex more, just

872
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: because that's a part of coexisting in the world. Then

873
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: you kind of want to evolve, and you know, like

874
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: that's just like it's just like a white person benefiting

875
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: from white privilege. You know, like some white people just

876
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: don't believe versism exists anymore because get over it. It's like,

877
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: of course you're not going to tell this bitch because

878
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: this bitch is benefiting from the fucking paradigm being fucked up.

879
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 3: So it's just like men. If men can get away

880
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: with bitches being afraid to say rape women, knowing that

881
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: women are going to keep their secrets, and they've been

882
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: able to get away with being this fake version of masculine,

883
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: they're not going to then like opts for the equal

884
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: rights because they.

885
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 5: Know they benefit from this system that exists.

886
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, I was I was like, I was just

887
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: gonna speak to the fact that I think that at

888
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: times men actually do want to be expressive and their

889
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: feminine talking. When I say fit, I'm spickly talking about

890
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: strictly talking about expressive of emotions emotions, right, you feel me,

891
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: whether it be sexual emotions or angry emotions, you feel me,

892
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: or sad emotions. But you know these stories I heard,

893
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 2: I mean stories I've seen myself and from the homies

894
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: that when they try to speak to their women, or

895
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: speak to women in general, they get shunned. You feel

896
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: me like, oh, you're a bitch, you crying like that

897
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. Or you you're doing that,

898
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: you're dressing like this, or whatever the case may be. Right,

899
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: and so therefore it's also hardening us from like elementary school,

900
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: you feel me like, So it's it's if if a

901
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: man tries to cry in front of me and he

902
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: gets shut down trauma, you think he gonna do that again,

903
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And so like, I'm not

904
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: saying that that's all me in, but there's an asp

905
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: that I don't think that conversation you had either.

906
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: What do you think women can do to support their

907
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: man's vulnerability? More like what I'm I'm hearing that, like,

908
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 4: you know, the mistake that women make is you know,

909
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 4: like because sometimes I probably have been part of this

910
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: because sometimes I don't I have this well. He was

911
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 4: kind of crazy though, but I didn't understand his emotions,

912
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 4: so he would cry and be like, what the fuck

913
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 4: are you crying for? Like this doesn't make any sense?

914
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: Are you manipulating me?

915
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: That answer?

916
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: But but I probably did cause him more trauma because

917
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 4: of that. But but I didn't start it, you know,

918
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 4: I didn't.

919
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: Start I just added to it.

920
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: Okay, but I didn't start that trauma to crazy from

921
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: the beginning. But I but I guess, uh, yeah, what

922
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: is what can a woman do? Maybe if maybe like

923
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: someone who's listening right now, maybe they know, like, you

924
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: know what I did shut my man down? How do

925
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: I fix that? How do I what do I do

926
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: to make a man feel safe?

927
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: Like?

928
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: What is what is elementary that maybe we don't get

929
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 4: as women.

930
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: If a woman were to say to her partner after

931
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: after kind of like coming at him for showing his emotion,

932
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 2: I would say, for example, not when he doing his thing,

933
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: you feel me, whether that be playing the game, watching

934
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: watching the game, or doing whatever the case right, but

935
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: like tone, timing and turf matters, and so I would say,

936
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: you get that out the way, and then it's like, hey,

937
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: beg I felt I felt weirded out because I haven't

938
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: seen this before, and so I did this whatever this

939
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: is right, and then that man is probably going to

940
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: feel that you're showing some form of respect towards him

941
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: because you're being vulnerable yourself. And this is why it's

942
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: not even a man woman thing. It's just like a

943
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: one thing you feel me. And so if those type

944
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: of conversations were he be had, I think it'll be

945
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: a lot less uh money go into these uh dating apps.

946
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: So I should get off the dating app.

947
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: I ain't say that now shit.

948
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 3: Evolved people need to be with evolved people. If you are,

949
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: that's a.

950
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: Good dating app.

951
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: Claim to fame the Tantric dating app evolved evolved people.

952
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: How do you vet them?

953
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: When you say, have y'all talked about that? When you

954
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: say tantra like how you got to like decipher this ship?

955
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: You know what I haven't, because you know what I

956
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: realized too. When I'm talking to like people honestly in

957
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: my community, like mostly my friends, no one, I guess

958
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: people everyone assumes it just has so strictly to do

959
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: with sex. But I don't think anyone has really any clue,

960
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: so I don't have to go deep. But I know,

961
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: like Tantra neo Tantra that's like big white communities or

962
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 3: big in the Western world, is solely based in sex.

963
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of bad raps for what that means.

964
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 3: It's like people fucking their clients on a massage table.

965
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: There's like all types of levels of how people like

966
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: under the skies of Tantra. And I think that, like

967
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: I've been really diligent about saying that it's a lineage based,

968
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: like a lineage based like what we've how how we've

969
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: been inducted into is lineage base, and it's been practiced

970
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: for thousands of years. You know. It's this form of yoga.

971
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: It's it's a form of Buddhism that doesn't separate, doesn't

972
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: shy away from a part of a very big part

973
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: of us, which is sexuality. We are literally a whole mind, body, spirit,

974
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: an alignment of like healing all of those all of

975
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: those things and not just shying away from the sexual parts.

976
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: And it's like like religion generally does That's what I say, Like,

977
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: you know, religion doesn't really tell you it's bad.

978
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: This is not that type of thing.

979
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: It's a practice that is whole encompassing and tech teaches

980
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: you how to like use pleasure as medicine. So I

981
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: mean I don't I I haven't really like led with

982
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 3: it's not solely sex, but I probably should start.

983
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: That was great.

984
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: I love the way you spoke with how do you

985
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: speak about it.

986
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: Healing? I say that all your biases that you have,

987
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: all your conditions, that you have, all your uh, the

988
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: way that you see the world, we help to to

989
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: erode that and get you back to your full self,

990
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: your fulfilling yoga, you know, I say, yoga of us,

991
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: of nervousness and regulation.

992
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: So what you have to do to get on the

993
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: Evolved Dating app is first you have to complete me

994
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: and Mike's course. Complete the course, the ninety day course.

995
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: You can be then vetted into the system.

996
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: And then yes that's a good months bad choices, of

997
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: course you I got that.

998
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 4: Then we need to look you in the eyes, make

999
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 4: sure you're not fucking nuts.

1000
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: Only come here when you want to do function like

1001
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 3: just start for the first five years over on Hinge

1002
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: like me and Erica did, and then when you're ready

1003
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: and you realize there's nothing out there, you can come

1004
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: over to the Evolved that I.

1005
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: Definitely wasn't on the apps like that. I really wasn't.

1006
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 5: How did you meet your girl?

1007
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: My homeboy actually hollered at her at the club, but

1008
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: she stood up and like her height kept going to

1009
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: his height and.

1010
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: Stop, You're like, get out of here. No I was.

1011
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: I wasn't even there though, and so like he tried

1012
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: to like this is what I was told sold from

1013
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: both of them. He tried to like dance with her whatever,

1014
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: and she said she tried to spend, but she couldn't.

1015
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 4: Like, oh no, she had a duck.

1016
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: Up, you know what. She was like, you nice, but

1017
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: I can't do it. And so then you know, he

1018
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: put me on.

1019
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: So this was later. This didn't all happen in one

1020
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: moment in the club.

1021
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: No, this was, like I guess, in a weekend. He was.

1022
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: It ain't gonna work out somebody on the date.

1023
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: He well, that's beautiful. Look at that. I love one

1024
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: man can do that for one another.

1025
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: See, I think, so I do, Like I think that

1026
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: we showed in our own ways you feel, I mean, yeah,

1027
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: we do. We can get a lot better though.

1028
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1029
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 4: So I'm single and I I'm still learning how to

1030
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 4: date properly because I don't know what that means anymore?

1031
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: What tips do you.

1032
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: Have how do to date properly?

1033
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: What tips do.

1034
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: You have for someone who For me, I'm celibate right

1035
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 4: now and I don't plan on having sex, but I've

1036
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: been having like these really interesting interactions with intimacy, but

1037
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 4: not like physical intimacy with someone where like I'm in

1038
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 4: their energy and we both obviously share like this attraction

1039
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 4: to one another, but we're not acting on it, and

1040
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: so it's like kind of like building this Like I

1041
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 4: don't know, it's like.

1042
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: Energy between us. But I guess my question is like.

1043
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: How what is not? What is? If I'm what is

1044
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: like you're being celebtate right now and then having that

1045
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: energy building? How is that coming true in your life?

1046
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: What do you feel is coming out from that?

1047
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1048
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like it's healing something in

1049
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: me that I felt like was like taken from me

1050
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 4: in ways like that I don't actually have to give

1051
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: my body to someone in order to I don't know,

1052
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 4: like feel intimacy really like to feel and I wouldn't

1053
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 4: even say love because I know that, but like it's

1054
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: more like this intimacy that I felt like my partner

1055
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 4: lived across the country, so there was already like this

1056
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: gap in our intimacy anyway, and so like when we

1057
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 4: were together, like I craved it so much, like we

1058
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 4: like you.

1059
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 1: Know, when you're away from someone for so long.

1060
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: Like so I'd had these like really intense moments of

1061
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 4: intimacy that felt like otherworldly because not well because I

1062
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 4: think we also had chemistry, but all so because of

1063
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 4: like that that longing. And now in this situation, it's

1064
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: kind of the same, but it's healthier longing.

1065
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 6: You know.

1066
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 4: It's not like, oh, you're not here and I'm longing

1067
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: for you, or like, you know, are you cheating on me?

1068
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: Like and I'm like I need to be near you.

1069
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1070
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: It's more of like a I don't know, like building

1071
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 4: some sort of like safety around the intimacy.

1072
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: That's good. I mean you feel comfortable with that. Y'all

1073
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: going It sounds like y'all going into your space.

1074
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, this is not my pace. It's my

1075
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: pace right now.

1076
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: You're trying something new, Okay, that's what it is.

1077
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: It's been good.

1078
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 4: It's been challenging, but it's been fulfilling. Like I don't

1079
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: have any big desire to change to like move faster

1080
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 4: or forward, you know, I mean, but now I lost

1081
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 4: my train of thought because I had a question about dating,

1082
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 4: and now I don't know what it is.

1083
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: You know, I think it's in New Year and you're

1084
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: still in in How do you call it cuffing season

1085
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: while your girls been out of the game a long time?

1086
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 5: How do you call it cuffing season?

1087
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: She said, it's still cold?

1088
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 5: And I think that.

1089
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: What I hear like people are tired, you know what

1090
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I think women are confused. I know

1091
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: a lot of sane, sexual, cool, successful single women who

1092
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 3: genuinely deserve like good partnership, you know, like this is

1093
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 3: my wife, so we go together, you know, basically minus sex,

1094
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: like basically everything except sex. And I think that what

1095
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: women for women who are trying to date. Seriously, what

1096
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: do you think or like five things men like women

1097
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: get wrong in dating?

1098
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: I think that, like how you just explained y'all's beautiful relationship,

1099
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: I think that when you are in an intimate relationship

1100
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: with a person, like the person that you love, like

1101
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: in love with, I think that person has a unique

1102
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: way of pulling out the emotional wounds within you. And

1103
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: so I think it becomes different with that person versus

1104
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: like y'all as friends or home ever the case, whoever

1105
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: the relationship may be. So I think that it's different

1106
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: per relationship. A person could be amazing, terrific love by all,

1107
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: but then with their partner and they bring out something

1108
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: different in them. And so I think those are the

1109
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 2: things I think in regards to women, but just people again,

1110
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: men and women both like working on your shit, taking accountability,

1111
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: even accountability when it's like something that took place that

1112
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: wasn't your fault, but you've been attached to that for

1113
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: too long, Like go over that attachment, right, And so

1114
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: I think that would be a few right there. That's

1115
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: three right there.

1116
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: I think I wonder if, like, do you think that

1117
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: women who are like very forthcoming about what their intentions are,

1118
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: is that like a mistake that women make? Because I

1119
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,479
Speaker 4: feel like that's how I've led in the past, and

1120
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's served me or hasn't served me.

1121
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I feel like because like niggas

1122
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: will lie and say, yeah, I'm ready for a committed relationship,

1123
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 4: So like does it even matter to say that or

1124
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 4: does that turn you off? Like if a woman came

1125
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: to you and said, hey, listen, I don't know what

1126
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: you're doing like second date, like or maybe even first date.

1127
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 4: And I was like, hey, so listen, I really enjoyed

1128
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: this this date. I want to let you know like

1129
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: I'm dating with intention. I'm not really interested in, you know,

1130
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: casual dating.

1131
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?

1132
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: I think two ways. The first way, it's like if

1133
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: you're a salesman. Right, let's say you work I used

1134
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: to work in Dialer's Ladies shoes department. Right, I've done

1135
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: a lot of different type of sales jobs, right, And

1136
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: as good salesman, they're going to pick up on what

1137
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: you want and they gonna know how to pivot to

1138
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: what you want, right. And so I think in dating

1139
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: a lot of times like if a person tells you

1140
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: I want this, this, and this, if they're a bad individual,

1141
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: they're gonna take advantage of that that and that you

1142
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: feel me and so so you shouldn't tell them. No,

1143
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you shouldn't have, just saying that that's

1144
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: a fuck up nigga right there. You feel me like

1145
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: if that were to be the case. But it's like

1146
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: a if you're dealing with an immature individual and you're

1147
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: just very forthcoming, and that person does you wrong. I

1148
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: think they just let you know that they're not for

1149
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: you in a quicker old fashion, in a quicker way.

1150
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: But at the same time, do I think that let

1151
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: me not skirt around the question to be direct two ways.

1152
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: One is per person basis, but then two, I do

1153
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: think that it's a it's a it's a dance, it's

1154
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: a given take. The dance doesn't start with yeah, you

1155
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: feel me, you can't. If we about a dance, you

1156
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: don't just grab my hand and just do the whole thing.

1157
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: You guys been partying all day.

1158
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: You're like, so listen, I'm like, only dating intentions as

1159
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: a woman, I've had I've had niggas tell me that

1160
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: on dates and immediately I was like, oh, nigga's crazy.

1161
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 5: Like even if I was into.

1162
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: It, I would immediately run. Orlando said this to me

1163
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: one time, one time around mushrooms. We have known each

1164
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: other like a pretty good amount of time, and he

1165
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: was like, what are we doing here? And I was

1166
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: like what.

1167
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's not a good time.

1168
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: Though it wasn't a good time, but also like I

1169
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 3: I I think I have issues with commitment in general.

1170
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: But also I even met Steve harvey fucking book where

1171
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 3: he told everybody terrible advice as if he's a master

1172
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: of fucking dating. Whoa, and everybody took it and he

1173
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: made millions of dollars. But like he's like, tell someone

1174
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 3: on the first date, which you want. I think it's

1175
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: cool to be like, yeah, I do want to be married,

1176
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: but yeah I do want kids, Like this is like

1177
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 3: this is my intention, but like I'm not telling someone

1178
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 3: the first date just so you know.

1179
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: Like that's the Yeah, it's the intention.

1180
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 4: Like the attitude, you know, your last name, like, oh,

1181
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 4: that's a mistake that some woman make, because I feel

1182
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 4: like I feel like women have been fed that information

1183
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: as well.

1184
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 3: Steve Harvey, which I don't know why you took Steve

1185
00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: Harvey's advice.

1186
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 5: He is not the dating master, but.

1187
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 3: Neither one of them because she's dating his ass he

1188
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: weren't to pay for years.

1189
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: I just had a realization they are trying to make

1190
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 4: Lori Harvey like a dating.

1191
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: Expert, aren't they? Have you been seeing this on the internet?

1192
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: It just all hit me because she's a regular, are they.

1193
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: They're like I've seen like a few place to her.

1194
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: She's smart, she'd go into sex ology.

1195
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 4: There's somehow they're like changing the narrative around, like because

1196
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 4: typically a woman, especially a black woman, dating like multiple

1197
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 4: celebrities in like a period of like two years, she'd

1198
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 4: be a hoe. But Steve Harvey ain't playing that ship

1199
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 4: with his.

1200
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 5: Daughter pr Campaign.

1201
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 4: Well, I think that they have crafted away or she

1202
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 4: has been smart in the way that she's talked about

1203
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 4: her relationships where I don't know if you've heard anything

1204
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: she said. It's not like she said anything like profound.

1205
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 4: She was just like, you know, if it doesn't serve you,

1206
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: like don't don't stay or whatever, like women deserve to

1207
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 4: be treated like goddesses, you know, Like that'sic shit. But

1208
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: I just realized, Sorry, I just had this epiphany. I'm like,

1209
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 4: oh my god, she are they trying to coin her

1210
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 4: as like a dainty expert LORI Harvey probably pay for.

1211
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: Because Steve Harvey coined himself as a dating.

1212
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: Expert, which I don't know. That's what I'm saying. The

1213
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: bitches who went like listen to him, like the same

1214
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 3: thing with the Kevin Samuel's nigga, you have to question,

1215
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: why are you asking this man for this advice if

1216
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 3: you were asking seeking Like, I know we need male perspective,

1217
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: and I know we have vastly different perspectives, so I

1218
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 3: understand having insight on each other's perspective, but also like why,

1219
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 3: like certain people just can't give me dating advice because

1220
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 3: you're not even on my level.

1221
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 5: And I think that's where women fuck up too.

1222
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: Is like even for us, women like us who talk

1223
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 3: candidly on the internet about sex, have a lot of

1224
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: fun and have cucumbers in people's mouths at live shows,

1225
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: and it could be depicted a lot of ways, and

1226
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: I think for a lot of men, it's intimidating and

1227
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: there's a label that it's associated with a certain type

1228
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: of woman. So I know, like I'm not gonna date

1229
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 3: a regular like a pastor. You know, he's probably not

1230
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: gonna want to date me. And maybe, but like the

1231
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: truth is, like you, I think you should lead with

1232
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: who the fuck you are authentically and then don't expect

1233
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: don't try and fit a fucking uh like a watermelon

1234
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: inside of orange and be like why isn't it working?

1235
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, It's just like you you

1236
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: have my.

1237
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 2: Mom theme about watermelon going.

1238
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: Into I'm high.

1239
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you could break it up, cut

1240
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: it up evasicially, just won't let it go. That's her.

1241
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: You won't love me, will respond to me.

1242
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: No watermelon lobido trick. Put cut up an entire watermelon

1243
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: and put a coconut water in there, you know, like

1244
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: mix that up and blend that up.

1245
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 3: He really believes in this because he said this to me.

1246
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 4: Man, it makes you like horning watermelon coconut like not.

1247
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: Just the deray apartment, Like, get get up in there,

1248
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: you feel me. Yeah, get the green as well, get

1249
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: not the green outside. I'm something the white the white white. Okay, interesting, ladies, Well,

1250
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: I mean here's things about that too. You gotta stop.

1251
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: You gonna stop what coming? You stop ejaculating.

1252
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: It's to stop ejaculating.

1253
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't mean he gotta stop orgasm, just separating that.

1254
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: To preserving life force energy or right, you don't come.

1255
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: I didn't say that.

1256
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 6: What the fun said, I.

1257
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: Recommend the ship and not do it yourself, because I.

1258
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: Do do myself, but not one hundred percent of the.

1259
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: No, I just twitch.

1260
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying to hear what you. I was trying to

1261
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: hear you. I was talking. I wanted to hear you.

1262
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: Could you. I want to make sure and say what.

1263
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 4: You said, when you have sex with your girlfriend, you

1264
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: don't nut every time? Like if you can not, I

1265
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: don't think you're like I know, sometimes you just don't.

1266
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: You know, you won't nut, But like, do you intentionally

1267
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 4: not nut at this point in time?

1268
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course he's a t Yeah he does nut

1269
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 3: something I doesn't.

1270
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: I do, I do. But then there's also tons.

1271
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 5: Of word what does that have to do with him?

1272
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: I'm he's talking about like that men should preserve their nuts.

1273
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm asking if he does that too, Like, if that's

1274
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: what he's doing, I'm.

1275
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: Saying, as a man in this practice, he's absolutely not

1276
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 3: nutting one hundred percent of the time he's having sex. Okay,

1277
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: that's a part of the practice.

1278
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I'm asking him because you're not his penis.

1279
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm his song at Sisters.

1280
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: I know exactly what he's doing.

1281
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 5: I know his practice, I know what.

1282
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,479
Speaker 3: He knows, so I know he's not Mike's my friend.

1283
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 3: So we've spent a week in fucking Mexico talking about

1284
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: strange things like preserving life for his energy.

1285
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I say about the time, Yeah, I was just

1286
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 4: asking because I was curious to know what Mike's answer

1287
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 4: was going to be.

1288
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: I you know, I think that if people feel like

1289
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 3: they hear that it feels so appalling to not nut

1290
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: because even me, I have a breeding kink I want

1291
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: to see come and I think like it's so it

1292
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: feels like alarming, Like what do you mean you don't

1293
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: want me to nut? You know, like I think men,

1294
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: I think that's like something has to like slowly, slowly

1295
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: like put on somebody, because I think everyone's immediate response

1296
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: is hell no, yeah.

1297
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 4: I mean well, I think that everyone also has different

1298
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 4: practices and how they practice tantra. Some men, like I

1299
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 4: think about Sting like he was one of the first

1300
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: celebrities that really started talking about semen retention and he

1301
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 4: wasn't coming for years, like so I don't know how long,

1302
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 4: Like how deep in the.

1303
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: Practice are you? Are you not? That was my question,

1304
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: like are you not nutting at all right now?

1305
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 4: Like because some people like that that's what they do

1306
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: and they preserve it for whatever it is that they're

1307
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 4: waiting for that.

1308
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: Question speak is like are you really are you really

1309
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: doing your practice over there? Money?

1310
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: That's not what I was at now.

1311
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: That's why I was like, why are you attacking me.

1312
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 5: In tangent words?

1313
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: That's like you're not No.

1314
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 4: I was just asking because like I don't know, like

1315
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 4: everyone you know, in any practice, you go through phases

1316
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 4: where you're.

1317
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: Doing that intensely. You're just sprinkling it into your practice.

1318
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: It's not it's not a phase. It's a part of life.

1319
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: So it isn't an error, It isn't a chapter. This

1320
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: is the book. And so there are times to where

1321
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: I definitely do ejaculate, but then there are times of

1322
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: where I don't, and so and so when you.

1323
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 4: Do that, when you do ejaculate, it is like even

1324
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 4: more pleasurable.

1325
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: Right, pleasurable, stronger, more in general semen. But then depletion

1326
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: entiedness is even more.

1327
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 3: So you feel more depleted as you've practiced it more.

1328
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: Like because if I'm going like, let's say I go

1329
01:01:45,160 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: at right and then really ship but you out it out. No,

1330
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: So like if I go thirty days without and then

1331
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: having lots and lots and lots of sexual activity, like

1332
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: it's different if you don't have no sense. That's why

1333
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: I look at you that way, because the question is

1334
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: so multifaceted if you're talking about individual that doesn't know,

1335
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: but also they're not having sexual or activity a lot,

1336
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: that's completely different versus someone who has a lot of

1337
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: sexual activity and still is not nutting. And so I

1338
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: don't know why I said it so funny.

1339
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: Women need to not do Women also need to practice

1340
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: this now because we don't ejaculate, so we're not like,

1341
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 3: so what it requires a band to create? Semen like

1342
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: that the life essence, like literally the blood, it's imagine,

1343
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: it's it's to make, it's to procreate. So it's taking

1344
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: all the best from all of your organs. And so

1345
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 3: it's depleting him every time he does it. But for women,

1346
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: we don't nut like that, so it doesn't it's not

1347
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: the same thing. But it's such a it's such a

1348
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: part of the lineage that we practice that. Like I

1349
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 3: told him, like I haven't really taught Orlando like I should,

1350
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 3: and so every time he nets, I feel like, so

1351
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: I feel guilt because I understand. I understand now, like

1352
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 3: what that actually means, and I'm like, oh god, I

1353
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 3: gotta do better because my kids are being.

1354
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 5: Wasted inside me for no reason.

1355
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's it's a deep, deep spiritual practice.

1356
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 3: And I think once you understand the spiritual side of it,

1357
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 3: then like the sexual side automatically evolves and like grows.

1358
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I've learned a lot today. Guys.

1359
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 3: I'm happy that he's here because I'm trying to talk

1360
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: to all my friends about it, and they're just like,

1361
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's medicine.

1362
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: No, we just gotta start appreciating. And then they just

1363
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: be like one day they gonna come at you and

1364
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: be like me, La, something different, it was goodie, And

1365
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 2: then and then their ears are opened up.

1366
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,919
Speaker 3: A little more. I'm passionate about I'm passionate about it.

1367
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: Mike.

1368
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 4: Do you have an affirmation that you can share with

1369
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 4: her our tribe?

1370
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: Do have affirmation to share with the drive les ask

1371
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: our guests?

1372
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 4: Then maybe you have something that's I don't know, maybe trick,

1373
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 4: maybe or maybe not.

1374
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: Okay, It's simple. When you ever have a thought that

1375
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: you don't like, or I thought that you've been on,

1376
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 2: you've been holding off for too long and it's not

1377
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: a good thought, just have positive thought, positive speech, positive action.

1378
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: There you go. That's simple.

1379
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: Positive thought, positive speech, positive action. Good mine, good one.

1380
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 3: I like that we pulled a card Okay, I think

1381
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: I've gotten this one recently.

1382
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: I've got that with a lot of trauma. Okay.

1383
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 3: It says heartbreak, emotional pain, sorrow, grief, hurt.

1384
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 4: That's right, that's what I pulled it?

1385
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: Was it upright?

1386
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: Mic?

1387
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 3: Maybe this is for someone in the collective. Well. The

1388
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 3: three of the words turns up in a taroor reading,

1389
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: it signals that you are feeling deeply hurt and disappointed.

1390
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 3: Your heart has been pierced by the sharp blades of

1391
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: others hurtful words, actions, and intentions, and they have inflicted

1392
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 3: intense emotions of pain, sadness, grief, and heartbreak. These events

1393
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: are unexpected and come out of the blue, making them

1394
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: even more painful. The three of swords is also about

1395
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: an emotional release when you have suffered a major setback

1396
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: or loss, now's an excellent time to have a good cry.

1397
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 3: Expressing your sadness is part of the cleansing process, and

1398
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: letting it all out will help you move on to

1399
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 3: better times. Allow yourself the opportunity to experience these emotions

1400
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 3: no matter how painful. Cry, shout, or scream at the

1401
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 3: top of your lungs. Do whatever it takes to express

1402
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 3: your anger or pain. As this will help you emotion

1403
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: your emotions flow through you and out of you. However,

1404
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: it is essential that you continue to focus on the

1405
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 3: path ahead. You may run the risk of becoming so

1406
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: absorbed in the emotions swirling around you that you lose

1407
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: sight of the need to just let go and move on.

1408
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: I think that I have a fifteen step process to

1409
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: becoming the main un becoming, and I just finished three steps,

1410
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: and so I think that that is the dying of

1411
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: that owed me and growing into the new me.

1412
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not even then, it's just being this

1413
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 3: time of the year, but I feel like I resonate

1414
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 3: with that too. I don't know if it's just like

1415
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 3: graduating and going through like that initiation and like he

1416
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 3: I had a like intense release and it was extremely

1417
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: emotional and vulnerable in school during testing, which I literally

1418
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 3: was talking shit about, like they were talking about last testing,

1419
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 3: and like somebody started just having some kind of crazy

1420
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: screen like she had to stop testing, and I was like,

1421
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: what in the fucking what would ever permit someone to

1422
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 3: be screaming during testing? And then it just so happened

1423
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: that I was a bitch screaming and crying during testing

1424
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 3: and my dear friend Mike was here supporting me through it,

1425
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: and it was it felt like such a heavy release,

1426
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: but it also felt extremely intentional, and I felt myself

1427
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: tell myself like, don't brush over this, don't make it.

1428
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 3: I was. I felt there's a point I wanted to

1429
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 3: like make a joke and like keep going, and I

1430
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: had to tell inside of myself be like, don't do that.

1431
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 3: Just sit here for a minute. And because I was

1432
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 3: at school and I had the tools to like even

1433
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 3: give it a voice and say like what do you

1434
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: need from me right now? And that that awareness to

1435
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 3: move through it and transmute it, like days later even

1436
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 3: till now, I feel like it's uh.

1437
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: It was.

1438
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 3: It was. It was like there was things that happened

1439
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: that woke me up in ways that were super necessary.

1440
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: And so I just think, like, maybe you're feeling the

1441
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 3: same way.

1442
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, I think when you talk about your friends,

1443
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: they'd be like, bitch, what the fuck? Like when you

1444
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: talk about this stuff, I think a lot of people

1445
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: are just numbing. When your numb, you don't even you

1446
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: have no recollection of what is you feel me, And

1447
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: so I think it's all about just being us and

1448
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: becoming in that person and so for me in regards

1449
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: to the Three Swords, Yeah, it's just a lot of

1450
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: a lot of clarity, a lot of gain, wisdom, a

1451
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: lot of I'm a different man, so I think that

1452
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: you know I'm no longer Mike Larry with the homies.

1453
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: Just call me right.

1454
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: Where you know.

1455
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm just Mike Johnson.

1456
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 3: Was speaking about Deep Tantra and sex. Did you bring

1457
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,839
Speaker 3: a horri for ust Mike Johnson?

1458
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 5: Mike Johnson, I know you have some.

1459
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 3: Horror coming to the stage. Mike Johnson. No, I think

1460
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 3: we'll be our stripper in Dallas.

1461
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: I mean that in the best way possible. Don't be offended.

1462
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 3: I mean it's the name of a star star baby

1463
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 3: with me.

1464
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: Do I got a horror story, a horrible story?

1465
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 3: No, it could be good. Some horror stories are good.

1466
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, horror story. Mm hmm. I'm glad it's

1467
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: me and not my homies up here talking about me.

1468
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: H what horror story do I have? Horrible story? Do

1469
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 2: I have? There was once a point in time in

1470
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: my life when I was at a certain location, uh,

1471
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: when I was way way younger, that like it was

1472
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: really bad because it was like a group of women

1473
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: that took a picture. There was a certain percentage that

1474
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: I had relations.

1475
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: With they were all in one picture.

1476
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, multiple times in that period of my life. And

1477
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: so yeah, it was a horrible story. I said that

1478
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 2: the most discreta you took.

1479
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 4: You saw a picture and you had been with most

1480
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 4: of the women in the picture, like.

1481
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:42,440
Speaker 5: A group of friends.

1482
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was just like a thing, and so

1483
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 2: I had to change that. It was a period of

1484
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 2: my life. I'll say like this as I'll say, it was.

1485
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 4: Two years of my You're getting very I'm trying to

1486
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 4: decode what the you're saying pouring outside close girl friends.

1487
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: No, So, like I was in I was in Portugal

1488
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 2: at the time.

1489
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: Particular location, I was living.

1490
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: In Portrage at the time. I was on a military base.

1491
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

1492
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: Uh And it's only like six hundred people on that base, okay.

1493
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: And so therefore, you know, if you're obviously cut down

1494
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: from that the people that fet your group, obviously, I mean,

1495
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: it was it was just bad. It was like it

1496
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 2: was just a lot it was running through the base.

1497
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: It was like a lot of it was like a

1498
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: lot of.

1499
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,919
Speaker 3: Percent Is there a lot of sex happening on military basis?

1500
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 4: Hell?

1501
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like.

1502
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 2: Es, yes, yeah, it's people that get deployed.

1503
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's like the perfect a lot of

1504
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 4: only fans, people in the army that are like you

1505
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 4: can get maybe like they put I don't know, masks

1506
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 4: on or something.

1507
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: Wait, am I the only person who ever considered that

1508
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: there's crazy organs.

1509
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 4: It's like it's a bunch of boys and girls on them,

1510
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 4: like a camp camping out together for months.

1511
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 2: Okay, it is not just like that.

1512
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 3: There's always some there's always some dark ship that happened

1513
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 3: too to the women, like there's always some strange there's always.

1514
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: The more men than women. I know.

1515
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 3: So I don't know that even seems like a good environment.

1516
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: Honestly, a lot more especially in the Navy.

1517
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 4: I don't think it's hard to have, you know, had

1518
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 4: your pick of the litter when there's mostly there's not

1519
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 4: a lot of women, and I would assume, right, you.

1520
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 2: Know, this is the elevator version of me. I'm not

1521
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: going to even respond to that.

1522
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: You really want to say the old me want to

1523
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Speaker 3: say something, but I'm yeah, I feel like you have

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Speaker 3: more better horries than that. But I'm gonna let just

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Speaker 3: like be shy I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go on Patreon and really spill

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Speaker 1: the tea, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, patre So it could be thirty thousand less people

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Speaker 3: in our business. That might be better. Well, maybe we'll

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Speaker 3: do a little after dark real quick. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: coming to hang out with us, Mike. I'm so happy

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Speaker 3: to finally see you in the United States. Right in

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01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: civilian worlds usually at a tantric.

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Speaker 2: Buba Mosquitos and.

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Speaker 5: Writing a lot of.

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Speaker 3: That sounded weird, But tell the people where they can

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Speaker 3: find you.

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Speaker 2: If you care to have a conversation, or care to

1539
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 2: have something to say, get it off your chest, or

1540
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 2: just have some advice, you can go to filling scene

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01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 2: dot com. We have a newsletters to where you can

1542
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 2: write in and we have experts in the field doctors,

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Speaker 2: clinical therapists, and sexologists to respond to you.

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Speaker 4: Amazing and you guys, you know where to find us.

1545
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 4: But more importantly, we're going on tour and we have

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Speaker 4: some shows coming up and we're so excited to bring

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Speaker 4: our Confessions of a Good Mom to you.

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Speaker 1: We're going to.

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Speaker 3: Philly, Dallas, DC, New York, So, Charlotte, Houston.

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Speaker 1: And there's one more.

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Speaker 3: I can't you said for DC Philly, Philly, New York

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Speaker 3: at Atlanta, Elena.

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Speaker 4: So make sure you click the link in this episode description.

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Speaker 4: Get your tickets before they sell out. It's going to

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Speaker 4: be sexy, we have surprises. We're gonna be there. It's

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Speaker 4: gonna be fun. Bring your lover, bring your partner, come alone,

1557
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Speaker 4: find a friend, join our discord, make friends there, because

1558
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Speaker 4: that's how a lot of the tribe connect before the show.

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01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 4: They link up in the discord and then none of

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Speaker 4: them know each other. Then they all leave as best friends.

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Speaker 4: So click the link in this episode description. Come see

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Speaker 4: us on tour, join our discord and Patreon.

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Speaker 1: And is that it?

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Speaker 3: That's it?

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Speaker 6: Love, I love you, Just move me hop.

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Speaker 3: Elana j Solo Bala record the Lalos and Elasi. They asked, hmm,