WEBVTT - August Trade Value Chart Changes | Dynasty Trade Block (Ep. 391) 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.840 Hello everybody, and welcome to the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast, 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:10.280 brought to you by League Tycoon, the Dynasty first fantasy 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.280 football platform. I'm Ryan Warmley, joined as I am on 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.440 the first Tuesday of every month on this fine discord 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.720 stages by Pat fitz Morris. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:19.639 It's how you're doing. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.200 Doing great, worm. It's great to have NFL training camps 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.720 open and a flot of news. Of course, we don't 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.480 like the injury news, but everything else. Man. Great to 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:30.800 have football back in our lives. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:32.640 Training camp is here. 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:37.960 Overreaction season is here, certainly, and as you mentioned, sadly, 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.279 the season of the unfortunate injuries that come before you 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.760 even get to the season, which are always I mean, 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.120 no injury is good, but that always feels extra painful 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.239 when it happens in the first week of August. So 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.040 we have seen some of that, off course impact our 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.120 rankings already, guys like Ricky Piersoll being sort of the 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.240 headliners there, Chris Brasel in terms of rookies thinking from 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.160 the Dynasty persive, So some. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:03.560 Unfortunate developments there. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.800 We're going to talk about whatever people want to talk 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:09.400 about here as they raise some questions on this stages. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.160 You can feel free to raise your hand if you're 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.240 in the audience listening, and we'll call you up in 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.360 the second half of the show and answer your questions 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.000 live on the air. You can of course always drop 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.600 your questions in the chat as well. It's usually pretty active, 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.400 so we'll get to those throughout the show as well. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.360 But Fits, as we usually do, we're going to start 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.120 off with our reaction to the latest update to the 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.119 trade value chart. You can search the Dynasty Trade Value 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.760 chart just on Google Fantasy Pros, or you can go 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.480 to fantasypros dot com navigate the site find it there 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.039 as well, and you can see all the updates. We 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.000 do it the first of every month, so we're sitting 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:44.959 here August fourth. This is just three days old, so 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.600 a very fresh set of updates here, as it has 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.280 been throughout a lot of the summer. And I do 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.880 say this pretty much every month. When we're not in season, 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.200 there isn't a ton of movement, right because we're not 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.160 seeing games being played or anything like that. The exception 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.680 might be some of the injury stuff going on. We'll 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.840 look through all the different positions here. We always start 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:09.920 with the quarterbacks. Fits again, not a ton going on 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.640 in terms of you know, the up and down. Here 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.679 one player that I feel like we haven't talked about, 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.360 and this isn't based on any kind of movement on 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.240 the latest chart. It's just somebody that I feel like 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.840 you and I haven't really talked about. What I've talked 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:22.799 about with ericson a lot I know you've talked about 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.720 in other shows. Is Trevor Lawrence. He finished so strongly 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.040 at the end of last season, you know, was the 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.800 highest scoring player from like in the second half of 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:36.440 the season, obviously had some insane weeks to finish off 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.600 the year. Sits here at QB nine in the rankings. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.959 He's actually tied with Patrick Mahomes at QB eight, and 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.760 he's four years younger than Mahomes. But he's surrounded by 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.360 other guys who are in that kind of same range 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.760 in the twenties. You know, Lawrence twenty six, Jalen Hurts 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.920 is right behind him at twenty seven. Purty and Nicks 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.040 are a couple spots later at twenty six apiece. So 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:59.320 kind of this range, does nine seem too high, too 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:00.320 low or just. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:00.960 Right to you? 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.080 Again, this is a collaborative effort to put together this chart, 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.080 so it's not just strictly your rankings. If you were 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.400 ranking Lawrence, where would he be in Do you think 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.960 year two with Liam Cohen is going to be a 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.799 step up from what we saw last year? Is gonna 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.760 be something in between the first half of last year 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:16.639 the second half last year. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.799 Where are you out on Trevor Lawrence Right now, I've. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.280 Got him QB eight. I have Patrick Mahomes QB ten. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:27.679 Last month's chart had Patrick mahomes worth. There was a 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.240 little bit of a gap between Mahomes and Trevor Lawrence, 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.160 and now we've got that gap bridged and they're both 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:40.320 sporting identical values. So I'm pro Trevor Lawrence. I think 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.480 what we saw once he digested the Liam Cohen offense 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:49.279 was really encouraging, and it was like twenty six points 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.320 fantasy points a game. I want to say, from like 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.200 week nine or week ten on. Now, granted he was 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.520 like getting one touchdown run a week during that stretch, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.920 don't expect that to continue. You don't know if he's 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.080 going to equal last year's I think nine touchdown runs. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.560 But what we did see as a passer was still 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:12.440 really encouraging. Best probably half season of his career as 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.560 a passer, and we like the weapons, were very confused 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.560 about this Jacksonville wide receiver corp on how to play 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.560 it for fantasy, But you know, in redraft, maybe the 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.440 easiest answers just to have Trevor Lawrence as your quarterback 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.080 and that's good. Like we know he's not short on weapons. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.880 Brian Thomas Junior really talented, still the guy who, although 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.720 he did it largely with Mac Jones, had that impressive 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.720 rookie season, Parker Washing and came on like Gangbasters late 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:43.800 last year. Jacoby Myers the ultimate reliable veteran. And then 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.000 Travis Hunter is this wild card who we know is 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.560 really talented. So a lot of weapons for Trevor Lawrence 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:54.440 to work with Liam Cohen one of the best offensive 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.520 mines in football. I think it took a while for 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.760 us to, you know, get excited about Trevor Lawrence. He 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.680 seemed like a tease for quite a while, but now 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.600 it seems like he's finally achieved lift off. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:12.560 Would you in a startup draft take Trevor Lawrence ahead, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.440 and obviously think he's super flex here with quarterback being 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.160 very valuable, would you take him ahead of you know, 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.920 JSN Pukunukua. I'm trying to look at the trade value 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.520 chart and find where amongst the non quarterbacks he would 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.520 fit in for you in a super flex startup draft. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.560 So obviously he wouldn't go in the top seven because 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.880 you have seven quarterbacks ahead of him. I think I 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.760 think I would probably assume Jamar Chase would be ahead 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.400 you know of him for you. Then you get into 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:39.160 like Bijon Gibbs, JSN Pooka. Where does he fit in 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.040 amongst those guys in a startup draft? 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:43.640 Second round value? 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:44.359 For me? 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:49.400 I think probably mid second round, kind of around the 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:54.480 spot that I would consider Drake, London, o'mari and Hampton 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.920 that sort of range. Does that sound right to you? 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.039 It sounds a little low to me. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:02.920 I think for me, if we're talking about him as 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.440 QB eight, then that sounds like something in the range 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.279 of more like the first pick of the second round 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.320 in my opinion. Again, you say those seven quarterbacks go ahead, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.040 you know, maybe Bejana Gibbs. I personally wouldn't take a 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.600 running back over him. That's just my philosophy. I totally 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.320 get why other people would. So I'll give you those 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.479 two and then those big three receivers. I think is 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.560 fine after that, though, Like if I'm staring in a 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.400 super flex startup, I'd probably rather have Lawrence than Aman 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.520 Ross Saint Brown. I mean, the trade value chart would 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.719 suggest that you should value Lawrence higher. You know, justin Jefferson, 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.520 CD Lamb. Those guys are twenty six, twenty seven years old. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.880 It's not like they have a full decade of elite 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.200 play left ahead of them the way a quarterback might. 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.920 So I think, like I'm probably closer to the one 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:50.600 two turn. I don't think he would get into the 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.960 first round for me, but like that thirteen fourteenth pick 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.480 or so, I think I'd probably be looking to take 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:57.000 him if he is. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.520 In fact, I haven't sat. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.120 Down and ranked my quarterbacks, but if if if you 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.240 work QB eight for me, for example, the way he 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.479 is for you, I think to me, I want the 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.280 eighth quarterback going off the board in that range. Now, 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.160 if other quarterbacks get pushed down because other people want 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.760 to go non quarterback even more aggressively than I would, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.560 then maybe I don't take him because I'm taking Herbert 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.800 instead or something like that. But if it plays according 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.760 to my rankings, I think he's closer to the turn 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.280 than he is to the middle part of the round. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.760 Yeah, I think he went two oh four in the 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:30.600 Dynasty startup we just did, so that's very close. Like, 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.680 that's very much within the range. I think he goes 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:39.360 somewhere from early early second, maybe even on the turn 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:43.240 one twelve two oh one to somewhere like two eight 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.600 two nine is probably as late as he lasts, and 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.960 I've got him about that to eight two nine. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.760 I do feel like and then, as a larger conversation 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.480 for the quarterbacks in general here before we move on 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.640 to the next position, I do feel like Lawrence and 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.960 then Hurts at ten are the last two quarterbacks where 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.840 I feel like I personally can really dream on You're 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.920 getting a value here where this guy could be in 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.120 that top five conversation a year from now. I think 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.880 everybody after them, Like, I'm really scared off of the 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.040 injury history with Jackson Dart brock Purty feels more high 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.200 floor than high ceiling. Maybe that's unfair to him, it's 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.480 just the way I feel about it, you know, bo Nix, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.600 I feel like is more you know, I'm more confident 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.360 because he's with Sean Payton than I am in him 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.440 the player Jordan Love another floor guy, maybe as opposed 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.840 to a ceiling, and then there's just uncertainty. You know, 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.240 we haven't seen it from Nana Mendoza. Cam Ward Prescott's 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.360 a little older GoF a little older So I feel 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.200 like if I'm looking for a guy who's not going 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.920 as a Tier one dynasty quarterback, but who has that 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.720 kind of upside, it feels like Lawrence at QB nine 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:44.880 and then hurts just if you know, if he continues 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:46.600 to get a bunch of rushing touchdowns every year at 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.760 QB ten or sort of the last two out of that, 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:50.760 I feel like fit in that bucket. So maybe that 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.120 makes me extra interested in getting one of them. If 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.679 I'm picking, you know, late in the first, early in 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.600 the second in a startup, so I have some degree 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.679 of upside to kind of match the guys who had 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:01.400 those early picks. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:02.120 Does that make sense? 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.160 It does? And I agree with you on that, I. 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.920 Think, Yeah, any other thoughts on the quarterbacks or can 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.520 we move on to two other positions? 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.600 Like I said, there's not a ton of movement right now. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.680 Like you said, not a ton of movement. Yeah, let's 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:14.760 move on to the running backs. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.440 Bijon and Gibbs have both been kind of doing the 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.880 hold in this training camp, and of course Bijon just 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.920 signed a big contract here in the last couple of days. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.760 As far as I've seen nothing from Gibbs yet, but 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.640 you know, we don't expect him to really miss time 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.480 or anything like that. Did that contract stuff like change 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.640 your opinion about their dynasty wrecking at all? Or is 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.439 it just that they were already the easy one and 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.480 two and that hasn't even been remotely touched. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.400 The easy one and two. I think the gap has 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.120 sort of closed in Dynasty between Bjon and Gibbs, and 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.520 in Redraft it seems like Gibbs is the preferred choice, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.640 at least among the rankers. I get it like. I 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:58.360 think Detroit has one of the easiest, if not the 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:04.640 easiest schedules in the league, and super clean start for Gibbs. 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.680 As far as Dynasty like, it's kind of almost splitting 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.000 hairs between the two guys. They're both really young and 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:15.160 both fabulous, and both contribute mightily as pass catchers, so 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.640 it is a tough call. I think it's totally fine 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.560 that they're separated by one value. Point in our chart. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.920 I want to do a thought exercise here for RB 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.199 three in Dynasty, and I hope this makes sense the 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.080 scenario I'm trying to describe. Let's pretend that you Pat 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.640 fitz Moors were in ten startup drafts, and in all 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.880 ten of these drafts you were required to take the 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.559 third running back off the board. How many of those 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.960 drafts would that third running back for you be Ashton genty? 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.600 How many times would you take Jeremiah Love? How many 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.760 times did you take o? Mary and Hampton? If there's 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.120 other names you want to throw in there, I'm looking 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:50.960 in the trade value chart. Those are the next three names, 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.640 and they're all comped very closely together. And the reason 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.080 I asked that is to sort of set the idea 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.440 of do you think Gent is the easy RB three, 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.720 which he is RB three in the trade value chart, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.800 and you'd take them all ten times? Do you think 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.600 you'd rather like kind of split your bet and put 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.560 some of those chips on Jeremila, put some of those 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.880 chips on Hampton, devon a Chan, whoever it is. How 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.120 would you sort of break out that if you had 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.600 to take RB three in ten different leagues? 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.480 That is a really interesting question. And the question I 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.640 think the biggest debate I have is like, do I 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:26.280 want one of those ten picks to be on O'maran Hampton. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.959 It would be no more than one, but do I 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.680 want it one? I think I'm just going six genty 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:36.240 four Love. That's how I want to play this. I 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:40.360 like Hampton, he could be fantastic. I just Gent was 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.840 always the better prospect, And even though Hampton has the 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:49.280 more desirable ecosystem right now, I feel good about the 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.560 trajectory of things with Clint Kubiak, and you know, Fernando 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.560 Mendoza soon to settle in as the quarterback in that offense. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.000 Presumably they're going to get a top drawer wide receiver 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:05.600 next year to kind of round out the starting lineup. Yeah, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.160 Gent was just such an elite prospect and Love is 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.600 kind of right on his heels, and I just don't 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.480 think Hampton is quite on that tier with those guys. 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.520 So I like genty a little more than Love as 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.679 a prospect. And you know, even though neither Gent nor 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:25.720 Love has the ecosystem Omarion Hampton has, I like Gent's 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.600 a little more than Love's at the moment. And yeah, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.080 six four is how I'd split it. How would you 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.200 split it if you were in the same position. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.680 So I think Love is actually the more interesting running 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.439 back here, more so than Hampton because obviously he's a 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.160 really good player, but a we haven't seen him do 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.640 at the NFL level yet and be like you talk about, well, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.560 Hampton's environment might be better than Gent's now, but long term, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:58.000 who knows Loves is the worst environment clearly, and that 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.360 he's the younger player, which we like, the worst environment 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.560 which we don't like, haven't seen him do it yet, like, 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.600 And it's hard for me to sort of parse between 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.520 how I feel about Gend and Love as individual prospects 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.480 coming in because they were both awesome and the clear 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.679 cut number one guys in their classes, so it's a 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.200 little hard to compare them to each other. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.520 Also stylistically they're. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.400 Different, So Love for me is like, I think he's 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:22.280 totally deserving of being RB four, but I just get 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.680 nervous seeing Arizona Cardinals next to his name, and I 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.800 know environment can change. I was a big I really 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.920 planted by flag on CJ. Stroud the year he came 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.960 out saying a good quarterback can make his environment better. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:34.840 Same thing with Drake May. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.760 Drake May was falling to like the seventh eighth pick 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.240 and some rookie drafts in his year because of the 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.160 Patriots landing spot. I'm like, and I remember saying on shows, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.360 the quarterback can make his environment look better. I don't 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:45.640 know if that's true of a running back. So I 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.400 get a lot more nervous with Love with his landing spot, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.200 and also like the fact that not only are the 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.680 Cardinals kind of a mess, but the division they're in, Like, 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.000 in what world are the Cardinals going to be competing 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.280 to a division title against Sean mcvay's or Mike McDonald's 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.760 Seahawks or Kyle Shanahan's Niners anytime soon? So it just 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.800 feels like there's gonna be a team that's losing a 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.480 lot of games in the foreseeable future. Having said that, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.960 Love is a really talented player, So for me, I 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.920 think I'm probably if I were breaking down that percentage 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:21.160 going something like, I think I would also go six 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.240 on genty. But then I think I would maybe do 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.440 like a it's either four and two or three three split, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.520 Like I see Love versus Hampton is pretty close because 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.160 Hampton's environment is so good right now. I'm really excited 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.720 about what twenty twenty six might look like for Amrian Hampton, 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.120 and I'm like, I think he's gonna have a better 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:45.800 year than Jeremiah Love, I'll put it that way. And 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.400 so then if we're sitting here a year from now, 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.240 these guys are both still really young. One of them 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.160 is coming off what I expect to be a great season, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.280 the other one maybe a bit of a frustrating season 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:54.200 given the environment. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.000 Then you know, I'm. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.560 Trying to kind of project ahead there a bit. But 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.480 I think I agree with you on genty sort of 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.400 six out of the ten, and then the other split 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.320 I more struggle on. I actually almost expected you, if 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.640 you'd weren't including Hampton, to do just a fifty to 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.560 fifty split between gent and Love. But I guess you 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.400 do just like genty a little bit better at the 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:12.000 very least. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:17.000 Yeah, And you know, I don't want to underestimate the 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:21.200 initial impact that Jeremiah Love could have because we have seen. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.040 I believe over the last eleven years, eight running backs 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.680 drafted with top twelve picks in the NFL draft, and 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.280 those eight running backs in their rookie years averaged I 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.200 think fourteen hundred like it was around fourteen hundred and 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:39.120 fifty yards from scrimmage and ten point nine touchdowns a season, 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.440 like they were all And this was a lot of 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.920 really good prospects. It was Ezekie Elliott, it was Jumior 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:48.120 Gabbs by John Robinson, Ashton Genti, Christian McCaffrey, Leonard four Nett, 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.080 couple of guys. I'm forgetting here, but and I know 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.360 that the Cardinals look like they're in terrible shape. Well, 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.560 the winning percentage of the teams that drafted those eight 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.760 running the previous years before they were drafted, the combined 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.160 winning percentage was thirty two percent. Like those teams looked 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.480 terrible too when they took those players, hence why they 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.400 were drafting early enough to get those guys. So maybe 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.640 Love just sort of defies what looks like a really 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.040 bad situation and still has a really good rookie year. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.360 And you know, this time of year from now, we're 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.880 I'm wondering whether he might be closer to Bijon Gibbs 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:26.880 than genty. You never know. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.120 I want to ask one more quick question on the 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:34.200 running back position. Jonathan Brooks on this chart is RB 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.320 twenty six. Are we maybe getting out a little too 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:42.560 far over our skis on the injury return optimism for 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.600 Brooks because I have been on board with the hype 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.080 and we talked about it early in the summer when 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.160 he was in like the RB forty range. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.160 This is somewhat of a redraft conversation as well. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.960 But you know, in Dynasty, I know he's still pretty young, 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.800 but multiple really really. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:16:59.800 Crushing knee injuries. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.080 We haven't seen him really do it at the NFL level, 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.240 and now we have him as almost in RB two 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.720 in Dynasty. That makes me nervous how strong he's being valued. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.520 And I wonder if maybe he should be lower than 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.280 Kyle Mnungai, who's one spot behind him, David Montgomery if 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.359 you're a win now team, who's two spots behind him. 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.879 Blake Korham Jalen Warren are the next two guys. Brooks 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.879 being ahead of those guys just makes me a little 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.400 bit nervous. I know our guy Bogman would maybe fight 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:31.879 for Zach Sharboney ahead of him. It's it raised my eyebrows, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.080 is what I'll say. What do you think about his ranking? 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:34.440 For you? 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.680 I've got him RB twenty eight. I've got him. I've 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:41.600 got Manangui twenty six, Korum twenty seven, Brooks twenty eight, 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:48.680 and then Sharboney, Montgomery Warren. So yeah, it's hard because 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.160 he's young, he was highly drafted, he was a really 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:56.800 good prospect. But this situation with two ac al tarrors 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:01.560 in the same knee within a span of thirteen months, Yeah, 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.560 you wonder if it's gonna be career shortening. You wonder 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.280 if the career will ever really get off the ground. 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:11.359 I mean, he's probably one more knee injury away from 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.840 that's it. So there's risk here for sure. But I 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.879 do feel like it's kind of a flat teer worm 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.320 like once we're sort of in that range where they're 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.920 probably you could hash it out with like twelve or 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.520 fifteen different running backs and what their value is. 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