Speaker 1: You're listening to Comedy Central.
Speaker 2: You're anti woke. I've been canceled enough to know that
Speaker 2: it don't kill you.
Speaker 3: Hey, here's Edition listeners. This is David Kibuka, a producer
Speaker 3: on the Daily Show. Every week we want to give
Speaker 3: you listeners, and here's Edition Extra. Today, I'm here with Charlemagne,
Speaker 3: the god host of The Breakfast Club and guest host
Speaker 3: for the Daily.
Speaker 1: Show, Kabooka David Kobuka.
Speaker 3: Firstly, Charlemagne, Yes, sir, I would like to say to
Speaker 3: the listeners out there, if you guys think that I
Speaker 3: am not reading well, I am doing this intentionally to
Speaker 3: prove that I am not an AI.
Speaker 1: You sound like a idol.
Speaker 4: All right, how are you doing, Charlemagne?
Speaker 1: I am blessed black and holly favored.
Speaker 3: How you doing, my brother, I'm blessed black and highly
Speaker 3: favored as well.
Speaker 1: Yespecially to be with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we're just here to talk about your experience
Speaker 3: that you you know, the week that you had. Do
Speaker 3: you have any overall first impressions that you would like
Speaker 3: to throw.
Speaker 2: Out there as far as television hosting a talk show,
Speaker 2: because I've done quite a few, and as far as
Speaker 2: TV is concerned, I've never been a part of a
Speaker 2: machine that has been this well oiled, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: the Daily Show is a system that you would kind
Speaker 2: of have to be like an idiot to mess this up,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, that's how great of
Speaker 2: a system this is. I'm literally blown away because I'm
Speaker 2: one of those people who I really like watching the
Speaker 2: process of things and to coming here at nine o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning watch you know, your whole team in
Speaker 2: the writer's room sitting there watching headlines like y'all are
Speaker 2: reading your morning paper or you know, watching your morning
Speaker 2: you know, cable news shows, and you know, laughing at
Speaker 2: the things that you're seeing coming up with these tapes,
Speaker 2: and then leaving from there and going into the next
Speaker 2: writer's room, which you know, where it's scaled down, where
Speaker 2: it's just you and you know, J and the showrunner
Speaker 2: a few other people, and it's just like breaking down, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to do this story, that story, that story.
Speaker 2: But then seeing everybody, all the writers just putting all
Speaker 2: of the takes in, It's like we just walked out
Speaker 2: of this room fifteen minutes ago, how was it thirty
Speaker 2: forty takes already? Right, So it was just like that
Speaker 2: then coming back and then you know, like stuff like
Speaker 2: rehearsals and the rewrite after rehearsals.
Speaker 1: I've just never been a part of a.
Speaker 2: Machine that was that well oiled and like meticulously you know,
Speaker 2: beat up, beat up, beat up, beat up, beat up
Speaker 2: a script until you got you know, exactly what you wanted.
Speaker 2: So it's been like really mind blowing for me and
Speaker 2: very eye opening for me in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean the show has been going for
Speaker 3: twenty five years, so I think that the length of
Speaker 3: time the show's air has given the opportunity to make
Speaker 3: it slicker and slicker. But I will say you are
Speaker 3: extremely slick, thank you. Like after the first day, I'm like,
Speaker 3: you are a professional. Remember even said to you.
Speaker 1: You whispered to me, you said, well you learn to
Speaker 1: read like that boy.
Speaker 4: Which is I'm like, how you are fully formed, you
Speaker 4: know what you're doing.
Speaker 2: I think that I have ideas and I have takes.
Speaker 2: I only disagree with you a little bit. I'm fully
Speaker 2: formed of what I want to say, not how I
Speaker 2: want to say it. Okay, I think, yeah, when you
Speaker 2: can sit down with a team and say this is
Speaker 2: the idea I have this is my my take on it, right,
Speaker 2: Like my take might be a line or a sentence,
Speaker 2: like you know, you know, like something simple as simple
Speaker 2: as hey, Joe Biden and Kamala hass are they still
Speaker 2: a winnable ticket?
Speaker 1: These are the reasons I don't think they are.
Speaker 2: And then y'all are able to take that and like
Speaker 2: crafted and formulated, and I think that's just man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all are well old machine.
Speaker 2: And it's funny you said that about the time, because
Speaker 2: I was saying that yesterday to my people. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't think you can get this kind of system
Speaker 2: without time. And the problem with a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: networks nowadays, they're not giving anybody time. Yeah, because you
Speaker 2: can have something good, you can have a good team,
Speaker 2: but you know, you got to give it time. Everybody
Speaker 2: wants immediate results, and you know, I don't think that's
Speaker 2: the way things are when you're trying to really cook
Speaker 2: up something good, like you have to give it time.
Speaker 3: I do agree with you in terms of the fact
Speaker 3: that time is a crucial ingredient to the success of
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: And you've been here, like what a decade, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Coming to a decade. So that's time in itself. A
Speaker 3: lot happened during your week in the world of the
Speaker 3: presidential candidates. Mike Pence entered his campaign, Dean Phillips challenged Biden,
Speaker 3: and then there was the run Dessantus shoe controversy. What
Speaker 3: do you think is the current states of both parties disarray?
Speaker 3: I think both parties have lost their way. Both parties
Speaker 3: have identities that neither one of them are living up to.
Speaker 3: I think that we're at a crucial point right now
Speaker 3: where democracy really is on the brink. But Democrats have
Speaker 3: said that so much that so like, ah, you just
Speaker 3: the boys and girls who cried wolf at this point.
Speaker 3: It's get a Democrat who cried wolf at this point,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's like, no, democracy is really on
Speaker 3: the brink. But what motivation are you giving the American
Speaker 3: people to go vote other than fear the time that
Speaker 3: we should actually literally, truly be afraid. Twenty twenty four
Speaker 3: is a time where none of us should want to
Speaker 3: sit home. But they have pushed that card so much
Speaker 3: that people aren't even like taking it serious anymore. And
Speaker 3: I fear that we live in a current society where
Speaker 3: if everything causes outraged and what's truly outrageous. Yes, And
Speaker 3: when you brought up to Ron DeSantis boots thing, that's
Speaker 3: a good example, right, because people turn things like that
Speaker 3: in the news, and it shouldn't be not with everything
Speaker 3: that's really truly going on in the world, like that
Speaker 3: shouldn't be something that we're talking about, Like who gives
Speaker 3: a damn about Ron just Stander's boots. It's funny for us,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, for radio shows and talk shows,
Speaker 3: but I'm talking about to the real world where people
Speaker 3: are out here starving, people aren't feeling safe, you know,
Speaker 3: like what is being offered you know to them? Yes,
Speaker 3: you know, And so I just think that, you know,
Speaker 3: like when you ask me what's the problem with both parties,
Speaker 3: I just say disarray. Like I think that I would
Speaker 3: love to see the Democrats move away from President Biden
Speaker 3: and implement some new energy. And I'd love to see
Speaker 3: Republicans move away from Donald Trump and implement some new energy.
Speaker 4: And this is part of your long story short that
Speaker 4: you did.
Speaker 2: Absolutely I want you to imagine the future. The year
Speaker 2: is twenty twenty four. Taylor Swift, as head coach of
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. Mitch McConnell has been frozen for
Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty seven consecutive days, and Joe Biden
Speaker 2: is up for reelection against a twice impeached, convicted felon.
Speaker 2: Democrats are clearly nervous about this election, and they should
Speaker 2: be because, Yeah, Biden has accomplished a lot, historic investments
Speaker 2: in green energy, record breaking job growth, and he even
Speaker 2: got a black woman on the Supreme Court. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean with a six y three conservative majority, and she's
Speaker 2: powerless there, but she at least got a free road.
Speaker 2: But despite Biden's record as president, it's still close, which
Speaker 2: is a hell of a thing. You think running against
Speaker 2: someone who has ninety one felony charges against them, who you.
Speaker 1: Already met, would be a pretty easy victory.
Speaker 2: So the question is how the actual is Joe Biden
Speaker 2: losing to Donald Trump. I have a theory and it's
Speaker 2: something I want to discuss more in Tonight's Long.
Speaker 1: Story Short twenty twenty four. You're gonna have three choices.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're gonna have you know, Donald Trump, who's the criminal. Yes,
Speaker 2: you have Joe Biden, who's the coward. I think all
Speaker 2: of the Democrats the cowards. And then you're gonna have
Speaker 2: the couch meaning people are going to stay home and
Speaker 2: sit on their couch, like voter apathy is going to
Speaker 2: be the biggest issue in twenty twenty four. People feeling
Speaker 2: like I don't care about that rematch, like I'm not
Speaker 2: going out to vote for either one of them. And
Speaker 2: you fool around and you know you have another Trump presidency, yes,
Speaker 2: and then what yes, you man go about a revenge tour.
Speaker 2: Remember when Drakes that I'm looking for revenge. You're gonna
Speaker 2: see Donald Trump. That Donald Trump revenge tour is going
Speaker 2: to be like when you know Biff got the Almanac
Speaker 2: and Back to the Future part two and went back
Speaker 2: the hillside and was making all the bets and was
Speaker 2: winning everything, but he ruined the whole the whole town.
Speaker 2: That's that's what Trump is going to do to America.
Speaker 2: He's gonna lock up all his political all his political opponents,
Speaker 2: anybody who has ever done Trump wrong. Like it's gonna
Speaker 2: be bad, yeah, bad, And you know we don't want that,
Speaker 2: but feels like we can't stop ourselves fro running right into.
Speaker 3: That, which goes into like your choice of guests, which
Speaker 3: seemed to be very you. You had a Republican guest,
Speaker 3: which the Daily Show is not known for having Republican
Speaker 3: guests for various reasons. You know, sometimes they don't want
Speaker 3: to come on or and why did you go with
Speaker 3: a Republican guest as a choice.
Speaker 2: Well, just looking for people I actually wanted to talk to.
Speaker 2: You know, Nancy Mace, as y'all saw on the show.
Speaker 2: You know, me and Nancy Mace attended the same high school.
Speaker 2: You know, we're like the same age. I think I'm
Speaker 2: like a year older. My mom and her mom both
Speaker 2: taught at Strafford High School and in South Carolina, Miss
Speaker 2: Mace and Miss McKelvey.
Speaker 1: She got kicked out, well, she dropped out.
Speaker 2: I got kicked out, and so you know, we met
Speaker 2: earlier this year, and I actually saw her on Bill
Speaker 2: Maher earlier this year. When I saw her on Bill Maher,
Speaker 2: I was like, I haven't heard a conservative speak like that,
Speaker 2: you know, I haven't heard a conservative challenging other conservative
Speaker 2: the way that she was. And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's from South Carolina. So I had no idea. I
Speaker 2: literally had no idea. And so when I started asking
Speaker 2: about her and you know, looking her up after the fact,
Speaker 2: you know, after I saw her on Bill Maher and
Speaker 2: then literally the next friday. This is how fate works.
Speaker 2: I saw her the next Friday at the Dave Chappelle show.
Speaker 2: She was in the back and her and Dave were
Speaker 2: kind of like arguing, you know, because soon as she
Speaker 2: says she was a conservative, Dave just you know, started
Speaker 2: telling her about the prophlemc he sees in the Conservative Party,
Speaker 2: and so it's like we connected then, and like, you know,
Speaker 2: me and my wife and her her husband went out
Speaker 2: that night with some of my friends and we just
Speaker 2: kicked it. So we've just been in constant communication since then.
Speaker 2: So I just felt like, yo, I'm doing the Daily Show,
Speaker 2: you know, why not pull up on me and you know,
Speaker 2: have the conversation. So it wasn't even like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: looking for a Republican. I was just thinking, oh, this
Speaker 2: is be an interesting guest. And then when we were
Speaker 2: in the meetings with the rest of the producers and
Speaker 2: I bought her up and they was like, oh, that's great.
Speaker 1: We never have Republicans on.
Speaker 2: So then I was like, well, hell, let's shoot for
Speaker 2: Nikki Haley too then, because you know, one thing I
Speaker 2: found interesting throughout my career was twenty Like the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty election when it was a whole host of Democrats
Speaker 2: running like it was, you know, everybody from Kamala Has
Speaker 2: to Corey Booker, the people to just all these people
Speaker 2: were running. They all came through the Breakfast Club. And
Speaker 2: you know, if you've been paying attention to the Breakfast
Speaker 2: Club this year, it's been kind of happening the same way,
Speaker 2: like a lot of the Republican presidential candidates have been
Speaker 2: coming through. And I have no problem talking to people
Speaker 2: that I don't agree with. I think that's what we
Speaker 2: should do. I think we should all sit down and
Speaker 2: have conversations with each other, regardless of what a person's
Speaker 2: political party is, regardless of a person's race is, you know,
Speaker 2: regardless what a person's religion is. But sit down and
Speaker 2: have the conversation. And so it just happened like that.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here like y'all they told me they don't
Speaker 2: really get Republicans. I'm like, oh, let's shoot for Nicki Haley.
Speaker 2: And I gave Nicki Haley some props on my show
Speaker 2: on the Breakfast Club a few weeks ago when she
Speaker 2: talked about the term limits and how she feels like,
Speaker 2: you know, you should have to step down after a
Speaker 2: certain age, and I was like, yo, I agree with her,
Speaker 2: And for whatever reason, me saying I agreed with her
Speaker 2: turned into Fox News when Nicki Haley was on, the
Speaker 2: guy on Fox News was like, did you know Charlamage,
Speaker 2: the god is a fan of yours? Like all I
Speaker 2: said was I agree with determin limit thing. That's just
Speaker 2: common sentence. I don't think politicians should have fans, Like
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of any politician. And when I
Speaker 2: saw that, I'm like, okay, let's have her on the
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. She already wanted to do the Breakfast Club,
Speaker 2: so I was just like yo, I just just threw
Speaker 2: it out there, like, let's try to get her on
Speaker 2: the Daily Show, and she decided she wanted to do it.
Speaker 4: You didn't go for any quote unquote Democrat guests.
Speaker 2: Nah, because I felt like I did a lot of
Speaker 2: that on my other shows on Comedy Central, you know,
Speaker 2: like I had Vice President Kamala Harrison and I had
Speaker 2: you know, said Richmond on like I had. I always
Speaker 2: did that, Like I felt like, you know, let's try
Speaker 2: something different, yeah, you know, it to make for a
Speaker 2: more interesting conversation. And I wanted to talk to people
Speaker 2: I hadn't spoke to before. Yes, you know, I've never
Speaker 2: interviewed either one of those individuals, Nancy Mace or Nikki Haley,
Speaker 2: which is very rare for me because I've been doing
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club for thirteen plus years. Like we've interviewed, damn it, everybody.
Speaker 2: I've never had a conversation with either one of them.
Speaker 2: And I think one of the most difficult things to
Speaker 2: do when you're coming from Breakfast Club a radio show
Speaker 2: where you have these conversations with people, is making every
Speaker 2: conversation new and interesting. It's easier to make conversations with
Speaker 2: politicians new and interesting because there's always something new going
Speaker 2: on with them. Yes, but I just felt like I've
Speaker 2: never spoken to either one of those individuals, so why
Speaker 2: not do it here on the Daily Show.
Speaker 3: What was your experience in terms of, like when you
Speaker 3: were on stage performing or like on set performing, because
Speaker 3: your choice of humors a little bit darker than maybe
Speaker 3: what we're used to, and you go for some of
Speaker 3: the holy cows in our audience.
Speaker 4: You didn't care about that.
Speaker 3: You were like, no, I'm doing what I'm doing, And
Speaker 3: you know, what was your experience when it came to that.
Speaker 2: Well, for me, funny is funny, And you know, I
Speaker 2: can't help it if I got a dark sense of humor.
Speaker 2: And I can't help it if the people here at
Speaker 2: the Daily Show also have dark senses of humor that
Speaker 2: they may not be able to express because the host
Speaker 2: they're using at the time doesn't want to. Because sometimes
Speaker 2: I'll be looking at the jokes that they write and
Speaker 2: I'm dying laughing, And.
Speaker 1: You know, to me, it's not even dark humor. It's
Speaker 1: just funny, yes, like that.
Speaker 2: The best humor is always that really edgy humor to me,
Speaker 2: you know, And it's not even to me, it's not
Speaker 2: even really that edgy. It's just like, oh, I can't
Speaker 2: believe he said that. Yeah, we need a short president anyway. Okay,
Speaker 2: people always talk about Napoleon complexes. Well, that guy ruled
Speaker 2: the entire continent. Abraham Lincoln was tall and he got
Speaker 2: shot in the head.
Speaker 4: So you tell me, you.
Speaker 1: Tell me who's more successful.
Speaker 2: Okay, But at least now I know why DeSantis is
Speaker 2: in that huge fight with Disney.
Speaker 1: It's not because of wokeness.
Speaker 2: It's because you got to be this tall to ride
Speaker 2: the magic teacups, you know what I mean. It's not
Speaker 2: like it's disrespecting anybody. It's not like it's putting anybody down.
Speaker 2: It might make you feel a little bit uncomfortable, but
Speaker 2: did you laugh. Yeah, we laughed. That's all that matters
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. Yeah, you know, And
Speaker 2: like I said, I think I said that this morning.
Speaker 2: I'm in the meeting and I'm looking at some of
Speaker 2: the jokes, y'all right, and I'm laughing, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I love that one, and I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all know what. I got a
Speaker 1: dogs into human It was like, we.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, we gathered after a certain amount of time.
Speaker 4: We gathered.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I'm not even doing that for shock value.
Speaker 2: Like the other thing I told you all earlier this week,
Speaker 2: like I'm not really the joke person.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not.
Speaker 3: That was then interesting thing that you said, I'm not
Speaker 3: really the joke person. But then you told a lot
Speaker 3: of jokes and we used a lot of jokes that
Speaker 3: you you.
Speaker 1: Said because I feel like they're not jokes.
Speaker 2: There are things I would say in conversation that people
Speaker 2: may laugh at, Like you know, it's not like a
Speaker 2: punchline thing, but you would.
Speaker 3: Say, this is my idea and then you would tell
Speaker 3: the joke with a punchline, and then we would be like,
Speaker 3: but that is a joke.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All my comedian friends tell me that all the time.
Speaker 2: They were like, yo, you know you do bitch, bro. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they say that to me all the time, been saying
Speaker 2: that to me for years, And I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: look at it like that, But I do love the
Speaker 2: way comedians and writers think. Okay, you know, I love
Speaker 2: the way that y'all are able to take ideas and
Speaker 2: structure them to wear because I feel like humor is
Speaker 2: what keeps people engaged. Yes, Like you can give people
Speaker 2: some medicine, some candy, some medicine, some candy, and I
Speaker 2: feel like that's how everybody here on the Daily Show, right,
Speaker 2: That's why I've always loved The Daily Show, whether it
Speaker 2: was John Stewart of Trouble, I've always loved it because
Speaker 2: you get medicine, you get candy, medicine, candy, And I mean, like,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's the way I like to deliver content.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, it was much appreciated because, as you say times,
Speaker 3: our sense of humor is darker than than you would expect.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I love it.
Speaker 2: I just think that we live in this era where
Speaker 2: we all pull ourselves back as not to offend. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not the cause outrage. And so it's like you
Speaker 2: got two kinds of people. Now, you got conscious people,
Speaker 2: which I believe we are, which you should be, Yes,
Speaker 2: you should be conscious, But then you have people who
Speaker 2: are purposely trying to push the line.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's not authentic. Yes, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: If like, if you wake up and you're saying yourself,
Speaker 2: how can I shock people today? How can I pisch
Speaker 2: people off the day? What am I going to say
Speaker 2: today that's going to get people in the uproar? That's
Speaker 2: that's fake to me, you know. But if you are
Speaker 2: conscious and you're willing to take the risk, that's the
Speaker 2: other thing, right, Like you have to be willing to
Speaker 2: take the risk of some of this documents.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that as long.
Speaker 2: As there's a great message attached to what it is
Speaker 2: we're taking the risk on. And if what we're taking
Speaker 2: the risk on is funny, yes, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: Yes, because you are you're anti woke, You're very you're anti.
Speaker 2: Woke, anti woke. I believe in consciousness. I believe it
Speaker 2: is being conscious. I think that some of these people
Speaker 2: are so woke that they need to take a nap.
Speaker 2: You know how when like you're tired, you don't think
Speaker 2: straight like you.
Speaker 1: Like you little foggy like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like, I think that some of these people have been
Speaker 2: awake a little little too long, because some of this.
Speaker 1: Stuff just gets really really ridiculous, you know.
Speaker 2: And also there's no like middle ground like you you know,
Speaker 2: we don't call these cups anymore. Yes we call them munks.
Speaker 2: Yes I still say cup. And now you want me
Speaker 2: just dead, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You want me just gone vanished from all of society,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And it's triggering because it reminds me of growing up
Speaker 2: Jehovah Witness when they would just fellowship you for quote
Speaker 2: unquote doing the wrong thing. And when they just fellowship you,
Speaker 2: they would announce that you were just fellowship and you
Speaker 2: come to the Kingdom Hall and nobody.
Speaker 1: Would speak to you. Wow.
Speaker 2: And so what that made a lie lot of people do,
Speaker 2: especially my pops, because my pops got this fellowship, he
Speaker 2: just stopped coming. Why would you come and deal with
Speaker 2: this abuse? And but on the on the entertainment side.
Speaker 2: What you've seen is a lot of people so called
Speaker 2: this fellowship. So they was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: not even coming to that party no more. I'm not
Speaker 2: going on no more auditions. I'm not trying to be
Speaker 2: in the industry no more. We got these youtubes, we
Speaker 2: got these social medias. I'm gonna be over here putting
Speaker 2: this content out over here. And so what ends up happening?
Speaker 2: They blow up. Now they're selling out arenas all over
Speaker 2: the world, and now the industry is like, how can
Speaker 2: we tap into what they're doing, you know? And now
Speaker 2: these people over here are like, I'm good, I'm cool
Speaker 2: on y'all. You know you should have you know, let
Speaker 2: us be risky and edgy and make all mistakes over
Speaker 2: there with y'all.
Speaker 1: Now we got it over here, we'll be fine. So
Speaker 1: y'all figure it out.
Speaker 2: But ask yourself, like when you look at you know,
Speaker 2: look at somebody like my man Andrew Scholtz, look at
Speaker 2: the the Shane Gillis's of the world, people like eighty
Speaker 2: five South Show, Jess Hilarious, like they overhear winning in
Speaker 2: the industry is trying to figure it out and tap
Speaker 2: into what they got going on. And then when you
Speaker 2: give these people opportunities like an eighty five South show
Speaker 2: on Netflix, what happens at number one on Netflix with
Speaker 2: a comedy special knocking off people like Black Mirror, and
Speaker 2: people looking like.
Speaker 1: Well, who are these guys? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, there's a whole culture who knows who these guys are.
Speaker 2: These are some guys who decided to say, Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be over here doing my thing. I'm gonna build
Speaker 2: my content space over here, and y'all gonna catch up later.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm seeing now. I'm seeing the whole
Speaker 2: industry trying to catch up with all of these people
Speaker 2: that they so called this fellowship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which was quite refreshing for us to have a
Speaker 3: person who is anti woke.
Speaker 2: You know, I've been canceled enough to know that it
Speaker 2: don't kill you. All right, I've been canceled enough to
Speaker 2: know it don't kill you.
Speaker 4: Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 3: Like because you do the breakfast clip in the morning
Speaker 3: and you would come in, uh direct after that, do
Speaker 3: you enjoy having that kind of because the breakfast club
Speaker 3: is a whole it's a whole career on its own.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then to come into this like, did you
Speaker 4: enjoy that?
Speaker 1: One hundred percent? Enjoyed it?
Speaker 2: You know, it's very time consuming, it's a commitment. You know,
Speaker 2: I've never done it daily show. All my shows that
Speaker 2: I did for MTV two in Comedy Central were weekly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a different ball game, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. The Breakfast Club is a daily
Speaker 2: morning show, so you create conversation and you see the
Speaker 2: chatter every day.
Speaker 1: But honestly, even though we.
Speaker 2: Talk to four million people, I think monthly, that's a
Speaker 2: whole different demographic.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know than the daily showing.
Speaker 2: On Breakfast Club, we're talking about everything hip hop and
Speaker 2: you know, of course from politics come in there, you know,
Speaker 2: pop culture. But daily show is like very very very
Speaker 2: politically driven.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I like that.
Speaker 2: I do like I like being a part of That's
Speaker 2: why I said, those are my interests, my interests of
Speaker 2: mental health and politics and hip hop, like, those are
Speaker 2: my interest as a human being. You know, that's the
Speaker 2: only thing I didn't get represented on the show this
Speaker 2: week because a couple of people that I wanted to
Speaker 2: have on, you know, had other engagements the mental health side, well, no,
Speaker 2: the hip hops o the hip hop side in my head,
Speaker 2: Rich Paul sort of he did.
Speaker 3: He represents the culture side, at least in my you know,
Speaker 3: like at least in my head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to get the city girls though.
Speaker 2: I wanted JT and Young Miami, like for real, for
Speaker 2: he had a hell out of comed Es Central's audience.
Speaker 2: That's what I want, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 2: wanted them to come in here and bring that three
Speaker 2: oh five floor, you know, That's what I wanted.
Speaker 1: I wanted them for Thursday. They were both in Miami though, cool.
Speaker 3: And like working with correspondents, I mean, you didn't get
Speaker 3: it wasn't it was every day you worked with the correspondent.
Speaker 4: How do you How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Loved it, loved it.
Speaker 2: The only show has some of the most diverse correspondents
Speaker 2: in the business.
Speaker 1: It was so fun.
Speaker 2: Man, were working with Ronnie Chang and does Heli Dick,
Speaker 2: you know, like it was just it was just great,
Speaker 2: like and that that was a part of the show
Speaker 2: that I wasn't expecting. And the reason I liked that
Speaker 2: part of the show cause when you get to that
Speaker 2: kind of part of the show, for me, a person
Speaker 2: who deals with a lot of anxiety and has to
Speaker 2: like really work himself up and get himself in the
Speaker 2: right mind state to go on there and perform like that.
Speaker 1: It's two things that relax me.
Speaker 2: The first time you make the audience laugh and when
Speaker 2: you get to that part with the correspondence, because you
Speaker 2: know you don't got to do no more to heavy.
Speaker 1: Lifting, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's always the hardest part because I know I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say something that's gonna make you think. Yes, I know
Speaker 2: I'm going to say something that's going to make you
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, I can see that point. It's always
Speaker 2: the laughter because I'm not a comedian, so it's always
Speaker 2: the laughter that you know, I'm not sure about.
Speaker 3: You keep saying you're not a comedian, but you are
Speaker 3: a fighting person. You do know that. But that's a
Speaker 3: natural conversation, like you know as much as I do.
Speaker 3: It's different when you just sitting around having a conversation
Speaker 3: and you saying some things to make people laugh. Yes,
Speaker 3: but it's different when you performing and you're this is
Speaker 3: it's an expectation.
Speaker 2: That's why I said, Man, being a stand up comic
Speaker 2: is the hardest job in the world. World to get
Speaker 2: on that stage and play one versus three hundred or
Speaker 2: in some cases one versus three thousand, one versus twenty thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the expectation is to make these people laugh.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You also, I mean, you know, you've done so much
Speaker 4: for black mental health.
Speaker 3: Yesterday I thought to myself, isn't it like odd or
Speaker 3: interesting that you chose a career that is full of anxiety?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: The crazy part is I've been dealing with anxiety my
Speaker 2: whole life. I didn't get clinically diagnosed until twenty ten,
Speaker 2: so my whole life, I had no idea what this was,
Speaker 2: you know, but I've always had to sink or swim mentality. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like okay going on stage, but you
Speaker 2: know it's so scrange sometimes you go on these I
Speaker 2: can go on stage and.
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2: It's weird, Like I can go on stage in front
Speaker 2: of people and if I'm prepared, I know, like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm cool with this. It's when you got to stand
Speaker 2: up and just speak like you know you have you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes you got a party like speeches, It's like, oh dang,
Speaker 2: ain't I don't have nothing to say to it.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, thank y'all, you know, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: That's it, you know. But when you're prepared, it's different.
Speaker 2: If I'm prepared, I'm cool. If I got to just
Speaker 2: go out there and say speech is like, uh, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Because with anxiety, I imagine you become a librarian or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean in terms of you decide, Okay, cool, I've
Speaker 3: got anxiety, but you're saying twenty ten, I got anxiety.
Speaker 4: Let me perform in front of three hundred people a night.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting though, now that I think about it,
Speaker 2: that is why I developed that performance of it all
Speaker 2: because I wanted to distract people from the fear that
Speaker 2: was inside of me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that they didn't know was there. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like a lot of times, and it's so
Speaker 2: funny because I can look at certain people now and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh, they just projected, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like that they really insecure because I was that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I can look and
Speaker 2: tell when somebody's really insecure, when they're really fearful. You know,
Speaker 2: and they try to do other things to deflect from
Speaker 2: what's really going on. That was me always, like I
Speaker 2: remember the first day I got dropped off at Memagia
Speaker 2: Elementary School. That was the first panic attack. I remember
Speaker 2: my mom, my mom. I'm talking like, y'all know what
Speaker 2: these places are. But in Charleston, South Carolina, my mom
Speaker 2: used to teach you at a place called Courtney Middle
Speaker 2: School downtown.
Speaker 1: And I went to Memoga Elementary.
Speaker 2: For like my first first grade and I remember her
Speaker 2: dropping me off at Memogia and I just cried like
Speaker 2: ball like that whole day. I don't even remember what
Speaker 2: made me calm down, you know. But then I remember
Speaker 2: being able to hold court in first grade. I remember
Speaker 2: being able to hold court like literally, you know. We're
Speaker 2: at recess and I'm sitting around telling some story and
Speaker 2: everybody was intrigued and engaged, and I just realized, like, yo,
Speaker 2: storytelling is you know what can deflect from whatever insecurity
Speaker 2: or anxiety or anything else that that that I'm feeling.
Speaker 2: And so that's something that I've always held on to.
Speaker 3: Oh so performing this week, and I mean in your life,
Speaker 3: but this week in particular, it's like a good thing.
Speaker 4: It like helped things out.
Speaker 2: With absolutely one hundred percent, you know, because like I said,
Speaker 2: y'all be in a well oil machine that y'all are
Speaker 2: me me always looking up to the Daily Show. I've
Speaker 2: always looked up to the Daily Show. Anybody that's ever
Speaker 2: worked with me on talk shows to tell you that,
Speaker 2: like you, you've all Daily Show has always been the
Speaker 2: bar for me.
Speaker 1: It's always been my muse.
Speaker 2: And so you know, sitting in that chair and you know,
Speaker 2: doing it and you people, you guys and women telling
Speaker 2: me I'm doing a good job and I can tell
Speaker 2: y'all not and I can tell y'all not blowing smoke
Speaker 2: up by ass, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like it made me. It made me feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can do this.
Speaker 2: And you know, and we're all lying on ourselves if
Speaker 2: we say we're not seeking validation, right, Like, are you
Speaker 2: like those pats on the back?
Speaker 1: You like those votes of confidence? You know?
Speaker 2: My problem with the world we live in now, we're
Speaker 2: seeking validation from things like social media. You're seeking validation
Speaker 2: from people that don't matter. You're seeking validation from people
Speaker 2: that don't even know you, they've never had any real
Speaker 2: world experience with you. I can listen to anybody in
Speaker 2: this room or anybody that works on this show, tell
Speaker 2: me something about me professionally this week, because y'all had
Speaker 2: the experience of doing it. That's a different ballgame. That's
Speaker 2: a different level of validation. That's the type of validation
Speaker 2: that gives you the actual security that you that you
Speaker 2: might be looking for. Well, I would say that this
Speaker 2: week you made us happy and you brought us a
Speaker 2: peace of mind.
Speaker 1: Man, thank you very much. That means the world.
Speaker 2: I always tell people wherever you show up at when
Speaker 2: you leave, all you want the people you worked with
Speaker 2: to say is that person was a pleasure.
Speaker 1: To work with.
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