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Speaker 1: Music saved me. I'm Lyn Hoffman, and our guest today

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Speaker 1: is a musician who sound feels like a warm embrace

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Speaker 1: after a long day, a burst of brass that tits

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Speaker 1: you right in the chest and says you're alive and

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Speaker 1: you are not alone. John Lampley, or Lamps, as he

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Speaker 1: just officially told me that people affectionately call him, is

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Speaker 1: a trumpeter, a singer songwriter who soundbridges jazz, soul and gospel,

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Speaker 1: and for over a decade he's been the commanding brass

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Speaker 1: voice in the house band on The Late Show with

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Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert, bringing groove, warmth and wit to millions night

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Speaker 1: after night on their little TV screens. Learning to play

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Speaker 1: the trumpet by ear, which by the way, is an

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Speaker 1: impressive feet all in of itself. He has built a

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Speaker 1: reputation as one of the most versatile brass players of

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Speaker 1: his generation, and his roots front deep. Growing up in Akron, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: where he attended church. That music in church taught him

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Speaker 1: the immense power of communal healing and intention and my

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Speaker 1: favorite word, his co founded that high energy band the

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Speaker 1: and now has stepped boldly into the spotlight with his beautiful,

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Speaker 1: uplifting debut, and I hope that I pronounce it correctly

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Speaker 1: and don't destroy it. Night Service Live at Lunatico, praised

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Speaker 1: by critics and celebrated far and wide. Did I say

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Speaker 1: that right?

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Speaker 2: That's perfect?

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: John is doing something deeply personal, by the way, with

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Speaker 1: this release, and he's taking the spirit and the joy

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Speaker 1: of their faith. And I'm so glad that he's here

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Speaker 1: today because this is a man whose story is exactly

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Speaker 1: what this show is all about. John Lampley is next

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Speaker 1: right here on Music Save Me, Music Saved Me. John Lampley,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Music Saving Me. It's so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 1: I've watched you on TV for years and now here

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Speaker 1: you are.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you so much for having me. I'm

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Speaker 3: very grateful to be here.

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Speaker 1: I am grateful to have you here. I've read about

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Speaker 1: how as a kid, it wasn't just the sound of

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Speaker 1: gospel music that got to you, it was that feeling

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Speaker 1: that created in people. Can you take us back to

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Speaker 1: that church in Akron, Ohio and describe what you were

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Speaker 1: witnessing that made you think I need to do this

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Speaker 1: the rest of my life.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. So.

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Speaker 3: I grew up going to first Apostolic Faith church, the

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Speaker 3: Faith Place on Easter Avenue in Akron, Ohio, and from

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Speaker 3: an early age I was surrounded by you know, not

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Speaker 3: ten siblings and they all had kids, and all my

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Speaker 3: where everybody was singing. There was gospel music at home

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Speaker 3: every Sunday. The music at church was incredible. But I

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Speaker 3: think the thing that really struck me was, you know,

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Speaker 3: understanding what was what and what I wanted to do

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Speaker 3: I love that. I I love that, and I want

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Speaker 2: And I think the older I got.

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Speaker 3: You know, started playing trumpet at church, started you know,

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Speaker 1: And feeding off of that, because that feeling it's just

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's really especially when.

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Speaker 1: It's communal like that, when it's everybody, so it's so

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think that, you know, I grew up

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Speaker 3: But even you walk into a Catholic mass mass, you

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Speaker 3: something about exactly what you said. There's this communal experience

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Speaker 3: You know, there's something that we all experience when we

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Speaker 3: I think that that's something that really all human beings

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously working with a band is communal too,

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Speaker 2: But something interesting.

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Speaker 1: Though not everyone I know wanted to be in that

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Speaker 3: what do you have to say given all of your

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Speaker 3: when I'm presenting this music or in producing this album,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's just a little it's taken a

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Speaker 3: like how are we playing this, or like what are

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Speaker 3: more I've been working on this project, the more vulnerable

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Speaker 3: music that I have to make is just as worthy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's safer in a group because you're all

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Speaker 1: So now you started playing piano at four years old. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you became primarily known for your trumpet playing. First

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Speaker 3: And so I had instruction on how to kind of like,

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Speaker 2: Yes, But if you know what you're.

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Speaker 1: Talking about and your right time, right talent, right opportunity,

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Speaker 1: That's such a great story.

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Speaker 4: Me podcast. Welcome back to the Music Saved Me Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Now, you spent years as a part of the house

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Speaker 3: I think that I learned so I have learned so

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Speaker 3: a musician, but as a human being. I think these

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Speaker 3: are you know, these are all things that I've learned

439
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Speaker 3: while being over there and that I'll take with me

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Speaker 3: for the rest of my life, not just in my

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Speaker 3: career of music, but in my you know, day to

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Speaker 3: day it just existing in the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good skills to have. And not that I'm partial

444
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Speaker 1: to musicians, but I do think that it's just a

445
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Speaker 1: tad harder for you guys to just out of the blue.

446
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Speaker 1: You got to like you're an extension of Steven and

447
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Speaker 1: if he says something and then you have to go

448
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Speaker 1: and create something on the spot live while you're taping.

449
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Speaker 1: That's hard. I mean, that's like really amazing, and you

450
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: have to really be an incredible unit to be able

451
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Speaker 1: to do that night after night. What I really want

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Speaker 1: to talk about now is your new stuff. Night Service.

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Speaker 1: It's your debut album, I'm Congratulations, and it essentially what

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Speaker 1: I thought was really cool. It recreates a church service

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Speaker 1: in a Brooklyn bar and it's open to everyone. That's

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Speaker 1: a bold and also very beautiful concept. Where did you

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Speaker 1: get the idea to do this and was there ever

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Speaker 1: a moment where you felt like maybe people wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: ready for something like this or were you prepared?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, for that first album, Night Service, it sprouted

461
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Speaker 3: from a residency. Basically, I started playing at this bar

462
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Speaker 3: every couple of months, and I wanted to create exactly

463
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Speaker 3: what you said, an experience that, you know, kind of

464
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Speaker 3: had the feel of the church that I grew up in,

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Speaker 3: but not necessarily like you would be sitting in a

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Speaker 3: church service. So you know, I was writing music kind

467
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Speaker 3: of with that feel to it, also inspired by jazz.

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Speaker 2: I was arranging.

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Speaker 3: Some of my favorite church songs are kind of like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I do a version of Grandma's Hands with

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Speaker 3: which is a Bill Withers song that is kind of

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Speaker 3: alluding to his own experience growing up with the grandmother

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Speaker 3: that was a very you know, religious church mother type woman,

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Speaker 3: and I think creating that residency was really important to

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Speaker 3: me in terms of figuring out how I wanted to

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Speaker 3: kind of present myself to the world. You know, I

477
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Speaker 3: think my faith and growing up listening to the music

478
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Speaker 3: that I grew up listening to was a huge part

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Speaker 3: of my artistry. But also I've experienced a lot of

480
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Speaker 3: other things and I wanted to figure out how to

481
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Speaker 3: kind of convey that in a way that brought people

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Speaker 3: joy and brought people together.

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Speaker 2: And the space Loue amazing. It's a venue in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: It's existed for a little over a decade, and it's

485
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Speaker 3: just like, I don't know, you know, some places are

486
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Speaker 3: magic and this place is literally magic.

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Speaker 2: And I we've been doing.

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Speaker 3: The residency for about two years and I was like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, this album just has to be live.

490
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Speaker 3: We're going to set up some microphones and we're going

491
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Speaker 3: to record this experience. And so when you listen to it,

492
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Speaker 3: you can hear people yelling, you can hear like the

493
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Speaker 3: glasses clinking, and you can really feel, you know, this

494
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Speaker 3: communal thing that I'm talking about when you listen to it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm extremely proud of this project. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: it feels like, you know, the best first swing of

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Speaker 3: like me as an artist, If that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: It's a home run. Yeah, you been speaking of home runs.

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Speaker 1: So this is your that's you on your own. But

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Speaker 1: you've also played with Stevie Wonder and Paul Simon and

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Speaker 1: Billy Joel, Gary Clark Jr. The list of people that

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Speaker 1: you've worked with and played with is really remarkable. I

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Speaker 1: was curious. The name of this show is music Save Me,

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Speaker 1: So I had to ask, is there been a moment

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Speaker 1: in your life, personally or professionally where music genuinely pulled

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Speaker 1: you through something where it wasn't just your job, it

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Speaker 1: was it was your lifeline.

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Speaker 3: I think about I lost my dad a little over

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Speaker 3: a decade ago, and I remember, you know, he'd been

510
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Speaker 3: sick for a while, so it wasn't sudden, and it

511
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Speaker 3: was kind of this steady decline, and I remember finding

512
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Speaker 3: such kind of peace and solace, not just from you know,

513
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Speaker 3: listening to you know, songs from artists that I love

514
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Speaker 3: well i'd be on a run, but also from being

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Speaker 3: on stage making music. You know, I did a lot

516
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Speaker 3: of touring over the time that he was getting sick,

517
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Speaker 3: and it felt like the two hours that I would

518
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Speaker 3: be on stage with whether it be Oar or Hunter

519
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Speaker 3: Tones or over at the Late or I mean this

520
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Speaker 3: was before the late shows, so you know, whatever en

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Speaker 3: city it would be, I would feel this, you know,

522
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Speaker 3: kind of I don't want to say escape, but almost

523
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Speaker 3: like all of the feelings that I was feeling from that,

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Speaker 3: you know, the disappointment, the anxiety, the fear of what

525
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Speaker 3: it would be like to live life without my dad.

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Speaker 3: I was able to kind of get all of that

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Speaker 3: out and share that through the horn, through the music,

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Speaker 3: not just with you know, the people that were on stage,

529
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Speaker 3: but also kind of with an audience who obviously a

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Speaker 3: lot of these audiences didn't know what I was going through,

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Speaker 3: but being able to perform and to play and exude

532
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Speaker 3: in that way was really really powerful for me during

533
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Speaker 3: that time. And I think that, you know, he's been

534
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Speaker 3: gone for a while now, but there are many moments

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Speaker 3: where I'll you know, while I'm playing, or I'll hear

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Speaker 3: a song that he used to listen to. Since he's

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Speaker 3: been gone, music has been something that allows me to

538
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Speaker 3: greet him in a way that sometimes feels sad but necessary,

539
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Speaker 3: but also grieve him in a way that is sometimes

540
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Speaker 3: very joyful. You know, on this next album that I'm

541
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Speaker 3: doing notes to self, I do a cover of the

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Speaker 3: Otis Writing song Sitting on the Dock of the Bay,

543
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Speaker 3: and that was one of his favorite songs. And my

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Speaker 3: dad could not sing a lick, but I loved hearing

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Speaker 3: him when that song would come on because you could

546
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Speaker 3: just sense that he loved it so much, and so

547
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Speaker 3: being able to produce this track into sing it, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited for the world to hear. But it's

549
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Speaker 3: also kind of been a really beautiful way to pay

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Speaker 3: homage to my dad and to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 3: feel close to him even now that he's gone. So

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Speaker 3: I think that that's a big piece of how I

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Speaker 3: would say music, you know, save me or has gotten

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Speaker 3: me through a.

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Speaker 2: Really tough time in my life. That makes sense, No,

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Speaker 2: it totally does.

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Speaker 1: And I bet dad was so proud of you, and

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Speaker 1: he got to see some of your successes, which is

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Speaker 1: equally as incredible because that you know, those are the

560
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Speaker 1: things you really want to have and I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: you at least had a little bit of that and

562
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Speaker 1: can still. Someone once told me this because I lost

563
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Speaker 1: my dad about twelve years ago as well, and it

564
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Speaker 1: was like the way you live your life is how

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Speaker 1: you give back to them and show them that you

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Speaker 1: paid attention.

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Speaker 2: And oh absolutely, I think.

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Speaker 3: You know, my mom and my dad are responsible for

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Speaker 3: everything that I am. You know, they when I chose

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Speaker 3: this path, they were really nervous because I grew up

571
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Speaker 3: in a small town and they were like, man, nobody

572
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Speaker 3: music makes any money.

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Speaker 2: How are you going to make a living.

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Speaker 1: You got to be a doctor or a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And you know, I was really frustrated about

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Speaker 3: that for a long time. But then you get a

577
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Speaker 3: little older and you realize it's like, the reason that

578
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Speaker 3: they're so upset is because they've poured their entire lives

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Speaker 3: into me. I was very fortunate to have two parents

580
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Speaker 3: that really invested in me, whether it be you know,

581
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Speaker 3: basketball games, baseball practice, all the and they came to

582
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Speaker 3: all the concerts. I was in the Ohio State University

583
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Speaker 3: marching band in college, and they drove to hours. It

584
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Speaker 3: came to every home football game, and that's just how

585
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Speaker 3: they were. And so of course they were, you know,

586
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Speaker 3: concerned that my life was going to go straight, but

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Speaker 3: I do. I'm so grateful that, you know, I've stayed

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Speaker 3: the course of being able to pursue this, and I

589
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Speaker 3: feel obviously, like, you know, how proud it's made my mom,

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Speaker 3: and even though he's not here, how proud my dad

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Speaker 3: is up there.

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Speaker 2: It's exactly what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, they pour all of that investment

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Speaker 3: into me, and everything that I go on to do

595
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Speaker 3: in my life and particularly you know are in my

596
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Speaker 3: music is a reflection of their sacrifice, you know, And

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Speaker 3: I'm that's one of the coolest things about making music

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Speaker 3: is that once you're making albums, specifically, once you record something,

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Speaker 3: it's forever and it's not just a reflection of you.

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Speaker 3: It's the reflection of everybody that has made you who

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Speaker 3: you are. And I think that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful legacy your new album work. Can everybody here?

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Speaker 1: When's it dropping? And where can people find you? And

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Speaker 1: all of that good stuff before I let you go?

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Speaker 3: So, my new album Notes to Self is coming out

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Speaker 3: June twenty sixth, but the first single from that album

607
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: is called Greener and it's going to be coming in March.

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Speaker 3: Easiest way to find me is on Instagram at John

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Speaker 3: Lampley Music with no h and also John Lampley dot

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Speaker 3: com and if you're tuning into the Laid Show. You

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Speaker 3: can catch me on TV until May.

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Speaker 1: Ooh it's countdown time.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, guess it's great.

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Speaker 1: Great, Well, you're going to launch into something even bigger.

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Speaker 1: I can tell. I already can tell. So I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to even watch the future for John Lampley. And

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Speaker 1: please make sure you come back and visit us again

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Speaker 1: on Music Save Me.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you so so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on and for sharing some pretty

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Speaker 1: important stuff. And you know, if we can just one

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Speaker 1: person hears it and it helps them in life, then

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Speaker 1: our job is done.

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Speaker 2: Our job is done. Amen to that.

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Speaker 1: I'm Buzznight and thanks for listening to Lynn Hoffman and

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