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Speaker 1: So what's what's the dating sem like for cherylnder Wood.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, let's play the role accent as now.

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Speaker 1: As now, my name is Shenon.

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Speaker 2: I know you. All I got to do is take

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Speaker 2: these muscle relaxes. I don't know why you even think

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Speaker 2: you need to tell me, y'all got, I'm already taking

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Speaker 2: my clothes. I've even gotten the car, just missing, nagging

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Speaker 2: on the curve.

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Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, pet price,

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Speaker 3: one slice, got the brolic geist, the swap all my life.

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Speaker 3: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, the drowning,

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Speaker 3: all my life, sacrifice, hustle, peg Price, one.

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Speaker 2: Slice, got the brolic Geist, the squat all my life.

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Speaker 3: I've been grinding all my life.

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Speaker 4: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I

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Speaker 4: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propride of

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Speaker 4: Club shashe Today we're at the Beautiful eight Lounge at

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Speaker 4: Resource World, Las Vegas, stopping by for conversation on the

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Speaker 4: drink Today. It's one of America's most love television personalities.

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Speaker 4: She's broken barriers as a comedian for over thirty five years.

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Speaker 4: Daytime Emmy and NAACP Image Award winning television host. A

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Speaker 4: talented actress, a hilarious performer and entertainer. Sought after public speaker,

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Speaker 4: multi talented media personality, an ACCLAIM executive producer, prolific writer,

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Speaker 4: savvy businesswoman and successful entrepreneur. Multifaceted philanthropists. A member of

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Speaker 4: the Arkansas Black Hall of Fame. A proud Diamond life

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Speaker 4: member of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority. One of one of

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Speaker 4: the most entertaining acts around. A legendary comedian, the one,

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Speaker 4: the only.

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Speaker 2: Sheryl Underwood and why if Queen Mary Jane, my damn

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Speaker 2: frantis now his What you thought? What's gonna happen on

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Speaker 2: your show? This is Club Charlotte. Ye o. You sat

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Speaker 2: in the car in Denver. Yes, I'm gonna tell the story, Riker,

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Speaker 2: when you came on the top, you walking out when

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Speaker 2: the flowers looking all dashing, and I was like, this

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Speaker 2: is the same dude I was trying to pull in

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Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety three Yeah man, Yeah, this you want

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Speaker 2: to tell you tell it?

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I saw her on Death Comedy on a Comic View

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Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety two. Uh huh, and she was performing

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Speaker 4: in Denver me and a couple of my teammates went

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Speaker 4: to the days like, man, Seryl Leanna was performing. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: she funny is I said, let's go check out. So

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Speaker 4: we go check out. And so at the end of

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Speaker 4: the show, it's late. I mean, I think I saw

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Speaker 4: I saw the light show, and I say, man, you

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Speaker 4: know I want to go back here to me. It's like,

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Speaker 4: do you do she know you'ays like nah, she don't

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Speaker 4: know me. But she's like, okay. So they knock on

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Speaker 4: the door, you come in. I introduced my saying, but hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm shying shop. She's like, and I know who you are.

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Speaker 1: You got to ride.

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Speaker 2: You ain't got to do all that for Nowaday's propride Plusha.

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Speaker 2: He don't know how to say no more. But that's

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Speaker 2: all right. When we was in the car, yeah, because

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Speaker 2: we was in the car.

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Speaker 1: He's in the car.

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Speaker 2: You ain't telling the story right, hold on.

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Speaker 4: It was it was late and she's like, okay, I'm

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Speaker 4: going back. I said, you know what, I'll give you

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Speaker 4: the way to the whole hell. She get out, He'll like,

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Speaker 4: oh nah, and you finished talking to me. I was like, listen,

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Speaker 4: he ain't telling it right. Let me tell you what

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Speaker 4: Risley happened. So you walked up to me, big sexy

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Speaker 4: ass black nigga. Matter of fact, what you need to do?

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Speaker 4: Put some lotion on your ash.

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Speaker 2: Air's hand right here? Yeay knuckles looking like Wesley Snap,

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Speaker 2: get it together, bot. You're too rich to be looking

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Speaker 2: at ashing two darskin nigroes wearing glasses. Don't need to

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Speaker 1: I'm done.

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Speaker 2: You are, yeah, you as listen, you better know it.

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Speaker 2: So here's what happened. So I'm looking at you as

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Speaker 2: So then you said, well, what would you like to

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Speaker 2: I would like to go on the carriage rock. You

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Speaker 2: said I will take you. I said, hold on, let

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Speaker 2: And he's supposed to remember that, yes, And so you

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Speaker 2: come on, if you're gonna go, and I go, who

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Can we just make we got it a relationship?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: You talking to me like we've been together for years,

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Speaker 2: because you gonna come on if you want.

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Speaker 1: To go, and if you go, I'm going. I gotta

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Speaker 1: go to work in the morning. I ain't got all night.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And so the women go, you know he's calling you,

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Speaker 2: he said. I said, I don't give up. I've been

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Speaker 2: Cheryl under Will long before. So then we get in

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Speaker 1: All all that. We talked for about two hours.

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Speaker 2: Sure did, and we became.

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Speaker 1: Good number until this day.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Every time, if I'm somewhere and she's there, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: find a way to connect. Absolutely, she's been this Cheryl,

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Speaker 4: Yes since I met her in nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm very proud of you and what you

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Speaker 2: have achieved. The question I have for you is what

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Speaker 2: the is in the cognac to make these dudes come

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Speaker 2: each other? When did men start gossiping shunning? What is

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Speaker 2: in this show that make people tell stories? First of all,

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Speaker 2: let click on it cause two country negroes trigger brown liquor.

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Speaker 2: Isn't America great?

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable?

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Well, see, I like sip, mind you like choke

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Speaker 2: yours down. I was trying to build cosby you one night,

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Speaker 2: but you wouldn't go for it. I said, I said,

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Speaker 2: I don't drink, Gone drinking, y'all, don't drink, gone drinking,

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Speaker 2: the button because because I'm too savvy for that. Listen, ladies,

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Speaker 2: every red light ain't no smoke detecting. You gotta know

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Speaker 2: about dudes. You gotta look under the bed. You gotta

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Speaker 2: seeing the people in the closet. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I came to talk to you. Now there's three more

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Speaker 2: are we supposed to be talking about? Move my lotion

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Speaker 2: What Let me ask you a question. What is in

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Speaker 4: Think the fact is that they want to get this

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Speaker 4: and they don't. They wanted a safe space that they

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Speaker 2: What I love is no women come on here beefing

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Speaker 2: like these news, which I think is very entertaining. But

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Speaker 2: I have said in my comedy show The Mix and

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Speaker 2: Mingle to a twenty twenty five, if we could get

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Speaker 2: Great Confessions to vote, we would be in a different

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Speaker 1: You would.

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Speaker 2: So I need you to use your platform to encourage

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Speaker 2: good things.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I notice that you kind of throw it out there

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Speaker 1: No, No, we toad to begin, we toss. Okay, we

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Speaker 4: If they want to pour a little bit more, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't pour them anymore. Yeah, they want to talk, I.

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Speaker 2: Let them talk, and you let them just talk the

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Speaker 2: way they talk. Yes, but don't you think it's well

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Speaker 2: for me. I'm glad it's no females doing this. I'm

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Speaker 1: I really had a whole lot.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get more, trying to get.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get some more.

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Speaker 2: I think to be great. Come in and Dale got

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Speaker 2: long stories me and some more long stories. You heard

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Speaker 2: about when I accidentally died.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get you. We're gonna get to get it down.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to let me do my jobs.

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Speaker 2: Do your John.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's start off with this.

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Speaker 2: What is it true.

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Speaker 1: That you started off as a lingerie model in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what we were calling it. It was lingerie model.

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Speaker 2: It's a tavern off Stony Island. I answered the ad.

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Speaker 2: what happens is you put on the lingerirate you my

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Speaker 2: and then the guys they like it. They'll tip you

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Speaker 1: Hell? Talk about your lodgerie.

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Speaker 2: I just got off CBS.

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Speaker 5: Can you com me.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get back on daytime.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing now?

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Speaker 2: I was not stripping, I was not surfboarding. I was

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Speaker 2: not I don't have that kind of skill, that strength.

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Speaker 4: What they call it now. Okay, five for the twenty

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Speaker 2: No, they was paying for me to keep it on

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Speaker 2: because I was horrible. That's what happened. I was horrible.

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Speaker 2: That's when I knew I was funny, because God, lets

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Speaker 2: you know what, you're not supposed to be. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: think I'm over here doing it, doing it, doing it,

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Speaker 2: This is what you need money for school. Them hood

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Speaker 2: good at it. That's why if you have sex with me,

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Speaker 2: it better be lights off. And what Eddie Murphy saying

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Speaker 2: the movie, can you make it darker? Because I do

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Speaker 2: not show you certain things people think because of the

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Speaker 2: type of comedy I do, it's very sexual and profaned

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Speaker 2: that I'm just throwing it out there that I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm really kind of reserved, you know. But

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Speaker 2: I was doing that to pay my way through school.

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Speaker 4: So that's true because I hear that a lot of times,

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Speaker 4: that like, I'm only doing this to pay my way

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Speaker 2: Well, I only had a few days to do it

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Speaker 2: because I just got it. And that's what happened, and

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Speaker 2: that's why I had to get into comedy. And then

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Speaker 2: me what, I didn't kiss him. He kissed me.

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Speaker 1: Why did you tell him?

435
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 3: Though?

436
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 4: They say, Look, there's gonna be a situation that I

437
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 4: did very well in my set and a friend of

438
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 4: mine he came and he you know, he gave me

439
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Speaker 4: a kiss.

440
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,959
Speaker 2: I didn't think Jamie and there was gonna leave it

441
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 2: in the footage. I thought it was congratulates. I thought

442
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 2: it would have been me. They left it in the footage,

443
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 2: so I didn't see it. I don't watch me after

444
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 2: it's you know, edited and everything, because I was like, oh,

445
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 2: they took out the joke about the frog and the diaper.

446
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 2: You know I don't do that. So when they left

447
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: it in there, and then what bothered me is you

448
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 2: didn't ask me anything. You just told me. Why do

449
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 2: strong athletic men get upset about the littlest thing. You

450
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 2: win a damn super Bowl, it's all over you.

451
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be mad, but I don't mean he

452
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 1: toung them down.

453
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if you want to you can. Matter of fact,

454
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 2: I need for you to tag in because I'm not

455
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: doing all this work. Tag in, come out, get this.

456
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 2: When I said, come on, get this long stroke because

457
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. I'm gonna go outside and make sandwiches.

458
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: Cause you look like you're gonna be hungry, I said this.

459
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: I'm over there, massages and shoulders. You can handle this, girl.

460
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it this crowning every night. You're gonna

461
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 2: do it. Come on there. If you and I was married,

462
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 2: If let's say you and I was married, and you

463
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: wanted to what would be the freakest thing you would

464
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: want to do? Because I know you freaking I ain't real.

465
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 4: Left freaking shut up public. I would like to thought

466
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 4: of being caught, but not being caught. So the problem

467
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 4: of somebody walking by and actually seeing me?

468
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 2: Oh you voyeuristic? You want somebody to see you?

469
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

470
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: Okay? Would you want to do a fivesome? You and

471
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 2: four women?

472
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: No? Why? One on one?

473
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Speaker 2: No wonder. I dodged the bullets that night because I

474
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: wasn't taking all of that. No, when you got up

475
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: the car, I said, yine, damn, and then I said

476
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Speaker 2: thank you Jesus. And then when you was like, well,

477
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go home and go to bed. I was like, whoa,

478
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: because I wasn't taking all that, because you know I'm short,

479
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: you know yo big blocking out the moon. I was like, oh,

480
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. I wasn't taking all of that.

481
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: If all you women that want to have sex with

482
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483
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Speaker 1: Jack Springer, were you on James Springer?

511
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: Yes?

512
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: I was Springer.

513
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: So I used to do this, do jokes about my complexion.

514
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: Now people say, well, why do you talk about the

515
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 2: way you look? Why do you talk about because self

516
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: depreciation in comedy is a standard to talk about yourself.

517
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: I really don't like to talk about people because people

518
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: get their feelings. They do, you know, they get the

519
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 2: feelings hurt. But I will talk about people generally. But

520
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: then at that time, I was talking about being darker skinned.

521
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: You and I both had this same conversation. Yes we

522
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: are pretty black, am I? Right? Body look all one color.

523
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: If you lay down on the table right now, you're

524
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: gonna disappell because your body is all one color. Right.

525
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: So I was doing jokes like that. So then someone said,

526
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: would you come on, Jerry Springer, We're gonna talk about

527
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: light skinned dit versus dark skin dit. And me and

528
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: my sister went on there because you know, we all

529
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: have that in our family. One of us is this,

530
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: one of us is that. And it was a great

531
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: experience and it taught me how to do TV because

532
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: I was hitting them jokes. I was hitting them jokes,

533
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: and that's how I got a reputation to be on TV.

534
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: And if it wasn't for Jerry Springer's appearance and the view,

535
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 2: if it wasn't for the view, I don't think I

536
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: would have landed on the Talk because they may not

537
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 2: have seen me or may have felt because my comedy

538
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: is so adult that I couldn't do daytime TV.

539
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 4: When did you find out you could get on stage?

540
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: And you know what, I can actually make a career.

541
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 4: I can make a living doing this.

542
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: When I got paid for it, I can do it.

543
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: That's right, I can do it. And you know, first

544
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: you get a little bit of money, get enough money

545
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: to fill your gas tank up. And I remember working

546
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: at Republic Insurance in North Hollywood in California, and I

547
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: was an underwriter. So I would work my eight to

548
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: five job, keep my club closing the trunk of the car,

549
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: go drive and do a gig and sometimes drive to

550
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: three different cities in southern California that night, and then

551
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: come back to the job, sleep in my car and

552
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: go to work. But that's what a college education did

553
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: for me. But a street sensibility, that grind, that hustle

554
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: is what made me do it, what made I have

555
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: to succeed, even getting on Deaf Comedy Jam. I was

556
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: trying to get on Deaf Comedy Jam and they heard

557
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: about me, but I was performing under two names, my

558
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: maiden name and my married name, so I think they

559
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: thought it was two different people. So by the time

560
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: my husband dies and I moved to Los Angeles, I'm

561
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: still trying to get on the show. And me and

562
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: another comedian, Andre, we drove to New York. We missed

563
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: the audition at the Peppermint. By in an hour, the

564
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: Peppermint had closed, and I remember we came back. My

565
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: cousin Baby Doll and my other cousin, Ernest Lee took

566
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: me to the Peppermint Lounge and my cousin Baby Doll

567
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: worked for a hush production. That's Melvine Moore's a company

568
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: management company with Freddie Jackson and them. So we get there.

569
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: I think I'm a bomb because Marvin Dixon gets up

570
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: and you know, he does that Jamaican dance. Our girl

571
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: tears the room apart. Bill Vellamie brings me up and

572
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: they tell me to do seven minutes. I think I

573
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: ended up doing because I think I drank about the

574
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: triple shot of gin me triple shot meat, and I

575
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: just went on autopilot and I did ten minutes of

576
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: political humor and ten minutes of sexual spiritual humor and

577
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: got a stand inovation. And that's when I got Apollo,

578
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: Comedy Hour, Uptown and Death County Jam same day, same night.

579
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 4: You mentioned about all the Okay, you're working eight, you're

580
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 4: working eight to five, You kept your clothing, the car.

581
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: You go do a gig, you drive the different cities

582
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: than you do the other gigs. You sleep in your car,

583
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: You're highly educated, you got multiple degrees the grind. A

584
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 4: lot of people don't want to grind like that, especially man.

585
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: Somebody just need to give me a job. I got

586
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: all these degrees. But that wasn't your thought process. You like, Hey,

587
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: I'm a grind. I'm gonna make it even though I

588
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 4: have all these degrees. Yes, I know the grind. I

589
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: know what it takes.

590
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm grinding right now. The talk is off the air.

591
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: But I want to take that experience to produce content movies,

592
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: unscripted everything, TV shows. But you got to have that

593
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: grind because you're gonna get no more than you get. Yes, yes,

594
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: And people are depending on me. My sister depends on

595
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: My disabled sister is depending on me. So I gotta

596
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: make this work. Where does she go if something happens

597
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: to me? Now? Would I like to have a man

598
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: by my side that helped me build and run this empire? Hell? Yeah?

599
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: But the average man, And this is what we hear,

600
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: you're intimidating. I don't know, no true man, No hard

601
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: leg dude is intimidated by a five to two woman

602
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: that talk for a living. Am I right?

603
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: No?

604
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: Okay? Why Am I not right?

605
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying you're right because he shouldn't be

606
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: because he has his own. Why is he intimidated by

607
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: what you're doing?

608
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 2: And he don't have to have his own. He can

609
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: work at the damn gas station. I know I'm gonna

610
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: get free gas and honeymothers and all kinds if my

611
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: man work at the gas.

612
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: But here's the thing.

613
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: What the way we were brought up, uh huh is

614
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: that the man takes care of the house.

615
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: The woman doesn't take care of the man.

616
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: I don't probably you grew up in Arkansas, for no

617
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 4: mistaken I grew up in Georgia, Yes, And every situation

618
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: that I saw is that the man, my uncle, my grandfather,

619
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 4: everybody that I knew, the man ran the house. The

620
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: man took care of everything. And so to have it

621
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: the flip side, I don't know a lot of times

622
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: men ego and their pride.

623
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: Well, here's what my dad told me. He said, listen, son,

624
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: he said, you're gonna have a problem because a man

625
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: goes to work Monday through Friday, get his check and

626
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: want to take his gal out for dinner or a

627
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: movie or something, and go to church on Sunday, you

628
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: will be working those days. But if a man truly,

629
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: truly looks beyond that and see what we can build,

630
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: young or old, what you can build with a woman

631
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: by your side that understands I'm that when I'm working,

632
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: When I come home, I'm going to fix the meal.

633
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fix your plate. I don't eat before a

634
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: man eat. I did not eat before my father ate.

635
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: A lot of women go, you stupid as fuck. No,

636
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: that's just the way I was raised. Respect for a man.

637
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: And if you are a real man, you will understand.

638
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm not out in these streets doing nothing. I'm not

639
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: going to different cities doing nothing. What I want is

640
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: a man by my side that will help me build.

641
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm looking for for. And I think

642
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: there's a man. There are men out there that I

643
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: think would be with me. The only thing is if

644
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: you're if you think that's what I am, If you

645
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: think I'm argumentative because I'm so good at what I

646
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: do on stage, then get to know me. That's the

647
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: biggest problem. We don't get to know each other. And

648
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: then I think sometimes as women, we so used to

649
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: being a man and a woman in our relationship that.

650
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: We don't got to fall back and just be the one.

651
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: There you go, and I know how to make a sandwich.

652
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: You want to change on your sandwiches? What you need?

653
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: What you need? I know what to do. I want

654
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: to pick up the dry cleaning. I want to do

655
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: what I saw my my mama, mama who raised me

656
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: and who was married to my father. I want to

657
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: do what they do. I want to be the wife

658
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: while I go out and slay a dragon. We back

659
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: to back on slaying these dragons. That's what I want.

660
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: So how can I find it? And who are you? All? Right? Now?

661
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: Don't I have a toe free number?

662
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: What we're gonna put put one.

663
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: Up at the end of the show. That's why the

664
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: tour is called the Mix and Mingle Tour, because I

665
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: want people to mix me. There are a lot of

666
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: lonely people out there, but you know who's lonely the

667
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: most men, Men who don't want to take the chance

668
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: of getting to know a woman and saying that's that's

669
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: my girl. That's what I'm looking for, you know, So

670
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: why not? And if you can take me without a

671
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: wig and makeup because I look like George Jefferson, whatever

672
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: if you could take that, if you can take the

673
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: fact that all I want to do is watch the news.

674
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: I watch sports all day long. I watch news all

675
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: day long. I watch old movies all day long. But

676
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what I need to do as a

677
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: wife and a woman that love you. But I work

678
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: around guys, ain't nothing happening to it. I don't I

679
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: pay what God damn is that? You think I'm this dude? Well, yeah,

680
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: call and get it. Go, get it, Get this Bundy,

681
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: get this bunny your job. It's not over come. Get

682
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: this funny son. She it's not as bad as she things.

683
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: Cause usually I tell people, I tell, you know, ask

684
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: me when we get to dating. We need to talk

685
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: about dating. And maybe I'm doing it wrong. Maybe that's

686
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: where I'm you think, because I will tell a man,

687
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: you know, whether I'm giving up some ass or I

688
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: will tell him you know, it's it's not gonna be

689
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: as great as you think. I got one good move,

690
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: one good one good. No, I got one and a

691
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: half one and a half. I do one thing very well. Yeah,

692
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: where are you frying?

693
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: I hain't Friday, cause.

694
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: You could have had it, but your hands jumped out

695
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: the car, like jumped out of the car like he

696
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: was on the Duke's hals or something. You didn't jump

697
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: out the car fast midnight. I gotta go to White

698
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: You was gonna sleep wherever you was. I'm gonna drop you.

699
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: I was. I got one good move. I'm gonna drop

700
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: him that night, like.

701
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm old school shot. You don't do that

702
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: on the first date.

703
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: On the first night, we had been talking from one

704
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: night to the next night. You said that you men

705
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: to night, so it was two nights. It was two nights.

706
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: You need to pay a tens. I had a strategy, ladies,

707
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: I had I'm gonna talking all the way until he

708
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: got too sleepy to drive. That's it.

709
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: What do you remember your first time on stage?

710
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: First? You mean paid as a comedian or just on.

711
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, first paid? Your first gig?

712
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Oh, probably was the humming Bird in Chicago. But I

713
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: have been doing comedy everywhere. I've been doing comedy. In

714
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: high school, I was the rally commissioner at Wada High

715
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: Castle Air Force Base and I somehow fdangled my way

716
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: into being the rally commissioner and there were big productions.

717
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: That's when I knew I wanted to produce content. We

718
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: as the Falcons, we weren't winning the game, you know.

719
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: Merced Monsell at high school was always beating us. The

720
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: Bears was always beating the Falcons. But the rallies were

721
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: low attended events. When I became rally commissioner, everybody was

722
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: getting up early in the morning to come to reps

723
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: because I was doing comedy. I had music in it, dancing.

724
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: I had at least five hundred people in a gym

725
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: wow every Friday when we had games. So that's when

726
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: I knew I could produce and it was funny. My principal,

727
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 2: mister CJ. Gross, he said, you know, you're very, very funny.

728
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: Don't let these young people pull you down the road

729
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: of blue adult comedy. In my mind, I was thinking,

730
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: it's too late, missus Grove, because I'm already there. I'm

731
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: already there because who I loved in comedy, the Richard Prior,

732
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: you know, the Pigmy Markhams, you know the comics that

733
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: I loved and wanted to be like. I want to

734
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: be Gregory Richerd Prior, but I wanted to be some

735
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: of those comics that I want to be able to

736
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: talk about anything anyway with a language that the street

737
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: will understand and bring people together at the same time,

738
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: even if you disagree with.

739
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Me Middle Comedy Search, Yes, how did you get discovered

740
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: for that?

741
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: We heard that there was a competition and they didn't

742
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: normally you don't have a lot of females in the competition.

743
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: And I remember that was where I met Damon Walliams

744
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 2: okay and great mentor for me, and he was trying

745
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: to produce a sitcom for me to be in. And

746
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: all the males who understood what I was trying to do,

747
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: they always encouraged me. When people say, well, do you

748
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: think it was hard for you because it was a female,

749
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 2: No harder than it was for anybody else. You had

750
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: to be funny. Did I think that it was gonna

751
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: be an easy way? It wasn't an easy way for

752
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: a lot of people, ask Kevin Hart. Wasn't easy for him?

753
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: Asked Steve Harvey. Wasn't easy for him? Asked Seder, asked

754
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: Chris Tucker? Was it easy? When you get the opportunity,

755
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: you gotta be ready for the opportunity. So getting the

756
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: Miller Lite Comedy Search, even though I did not win,

757
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: I placed enough to be respected. So if you look

758
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: at the history of comedy. The great comics sometimes do

759
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: not win comedy competitions. They may place, or they may

760
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: come in dead last, and it gives them that drive

761
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: to go or I'm a come back. I was in

762
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: the Berry of Black Comedy competition, I think three years

763
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: in a row. I placed in the top five three

764
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: years in a row, and I was told that a

765
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: woman will never win it. Okay, cool, I ain't got

766
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: to win it. All I need to do is win

767
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: over the audience.

768
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: And that's that's what you're trying to win. That's right now,

769
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: the competition.

770
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: If I win the audience, they're gonna come see me

771
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 4: at a later day and time somewhere.

772
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: Oh, I like to win competition. When we want an

773
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: Emmy on the top. I was like, oh, yeah, that's

774
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. When we won the NAACP Award,

775
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: I was happy about that. Winning competitions is it's the

776
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: cherry on top of It's just like you win in

777
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Yes, it's the cherry on top.

778
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: Of everything, the validation of all your heart.

779
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, that's right.

780
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: But in nineteen eighty nine, you were you were the

781
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 4: first female finalists for the Miller like comedy search.

782
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, what do you remember most about that experience?

783
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: Because you said, although you didn't win, you got some

784
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: great mentorshare from Damon Waym's. But it drove you because

785
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: you had won the audience, Because even though you didn't win,

786
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: you felt you won the audience that at a later

787
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: day and time, when you got your own thing, they

788
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: gonna come see.

789
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 2: Sheryl loved win absolute and the fact that I could

790
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: bring men in women together. In the beginning, I was

791
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: telling so much, so many sexual jokes. Women was popping

792
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: out of my show, like the Great Pumpkin. I'm not

793
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: done that, no man, Well that's why your man looking

794
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: up here at me. And I ain't the finest broad

795
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: in the world, but I'm the most focused. I'm gonna

796
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: do what you don't do. Well. While this is a

797
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: part of my personality, it is the type of material

798
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: I love to do. Adult comedy. To me, you have

799
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: to be a really good comic that can come from

800
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: adult comedy to clean comedy. Clean comes if you look

801
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: at What's what's the guy named Bob Saggin, Bob Saggan

802
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: and I when he was alive. God rest is so

803
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: good dude, But we would talk about adult material being

804
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: in daytime, us being in daytime and family stuff. But

805
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: the most fun is to tell an adult sexual joke.

806
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: Why because there's only two maybe three ways that has

807
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: sex for if you really creative and short on the

808
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: five too, it's only a few ways to do it,

809
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: but to be able to talk about it humorously and

810
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: make everybody laugh. See, I'm doing political material, but what

811
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: brings the audience together sexual relationship material.

812
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: And that's what doesn't Bernie mac Adell Gibbing said, you

813
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 4: the entertainer will also participant in the middle like comedy search,

814
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: did you have did you have interaction with those absolutely?

815
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Adele and uh And on the

816
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: West side. I think they did a round of the

817
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: Milla like comedy search in Roses and she was like,

818
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: I want to do what you do. And I remember

819
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: that night because I was going through things in my

820
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: marriage that night. But I always knew my father said,

821
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: nobody cares about what you're going through in your life.

822
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: You are the entertainment that they paid to see. So

823
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: swallow all of that and get your you hear me say, swallow,

824
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: swallow and get yourself together. So that night. I remember

825
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: meeting Adele. She said she wanted to do it. I said,

826
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: do you they can't steal you, they can't steal your life,

827
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: and don't let nobody tell you you cannot do it.

828
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: And people say, well, what do you feel about other

829
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: female comics. I want us all to win and succeed.

830
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: I want us all to make movies. I want us

831
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: to do sitcoms. I want us to open the door

832
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: for each other. Monique is one of the greatest actors,

833
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: not actress. In my book actur what that did in press?

834
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: Listen to me, Listen to lady. When I saw her,

835
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: I said, I want to fight you so bad because everything, yes,

836
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: but everything I had gone through in my life, molestations, rape,

837
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: everything that I could see that person, you know, and

838
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: I've been around that person, I've lived. But that girl

839
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: is such a talented that woman, it's such a talented

840
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: act tour. When you're talking about the skill of some more,

841
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: the skill of Adele, the skill of Tiffany hattis the

842
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: skill of all female But why are we not making movies?

843
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: Why aren't the guys that can do it, Kevin can produce,

844
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: Why aren't they producing us together in something and we've

845
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: got to put aside any differences that we have for

846
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: the greater good of us getting a bag for our families,

847
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: our mortgages, our children, going through college, our retirement. We

848
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: need to come together, right, Bernie.

849
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 4: Mac your legend. Everybody speaks nothing but highly. He's held

850
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 4: in the highest high absolut regards.

851
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

852
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: What do you remember about your interacting with Bernie.

853
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: I knew Bernie when we called him blue because he

854
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: was so black. He was blue, and he was friends

855
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 2: with the Navius Cobb on the street that we lived

856
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: on in Chicago. She lived across the street from us.

857
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 2: And he was always a family man, integrity, a good guy.

858
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: He was like the father figure to us, like the

859
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: older brother figure he was. And he would ask, sure,

860
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: why you don't dress up on stad? I said, listen,

861
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: let me tell you something. If these jokes ain't funny,

862
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: it don't matter what I'm wearing. Right. So, but I

863
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Speaker 2: would always takes a vice and counselor. I'm kind of feisty,

864
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: you know. I say, I am my mother's daughter and

865
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: my father's son, so I'm gonna talk back to you

866
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: because that's what Mama did, you know. But Bernie was

867
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: the kind of guy that if he felt he could

868
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: help you get that joke tighter or advance your career.

869
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: He was that guy. And maybe I'm kind of I

870
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: don't know if you're this way too. I'm kind of reclusive.

871
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: Would you say I'm gregarious when I need to be gregarious?

872
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: But most of the time, I'm private and I'm reclusive.

873
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: I tell people, I explain myself to people like this,

874
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: I'm the mouse, outgoing introvert you're gonna meet.

875
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: There is me too, me too. You're not gonna know

876
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: too much about me. You may have shaken hands with

877
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: somebody I dealt with, and I'm not gonna disrespect you

878
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: or him. You know, I just don't. You know. I

879
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: talked for a living, but I don't talk about everything.

880
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: Def Comedy Jail. That was the pinnacle.

881
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 4: Martin and so many of the comedians that we see today,

882
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 4: they got their start there.

883
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: Yes, do you remember much about that?

884
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: I remember driving to New York, staying with my cousin

885
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: Ernest Lee and my cousin Christina, and going after I

886
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: got Deaf Comedy Jam, they ask could you stay over

887
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: and do death comedy Jam? And when I they said

888
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: they would give me some money because I didn't have

889
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: any clothes. So what you see me wearing that little

890
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: bitty orange shirt and them stretched pants and them boots,

891
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: them superhero boots that I was wearing. That is what

892
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: I wore to drive from Los Angeles to New York

893
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: because I couldn't find clothes. And what money they'd give me.

894
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: You know, when you don't know a city, you don't

895
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: know where to go, down to the alley, down to

896
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: the you know, the place to get a five dollars

897
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: shirt and some ten dollars slacks. You know what I'm saying.

898
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: So what I'm wearing is what I'm wearing. And then

899
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: I remember they would do the walk through. But when

900
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: I came to do the walk through, I could hear

901
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: people whispering, that's her, that's her. That's the girl that

902
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: torew up ever met. That's her. That's her. So we

903
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: get there and Martin is reading the reading the script

904
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: on what they're gonna say, and so, uh, they asked you,

905
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: what was your first joke was your last joke? And

906
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: I think my first joke was two drinks no either,

907
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: business ain't need to suck more and uh yeah, yeah, uh,

908
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: and it was two jokes, first joke, last joke, and

909
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: everybody was laughing. They was like snickering, and then I said,

910
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: I said Martin, I said, miss Lawrence because I had

911
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: seen him perform. I've watched him do a show in Chicago.

912
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: Adelle gibbings Martin Lawrence and Chris Rock one of the

913
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: greatest shows I've ever seen. Right, So I said Martin,

914
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: I said, can you just change? Because they had me

915
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: from Chicago, I said, can you just change? I live

916
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles now, and he was like, okay, cool.

917
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: And so it was asked of me why, and I said,

918
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: because if a promoter is looking for me to book me,

919
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: I need him to know where I am because I'm

920
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: always about my money, right, I'm always about my business.

921
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm about my paper. And I had to learn that

922
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: night pacing so because I was gunning them jokes, pow

923
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Speaker 2: pow pow power, but I was gunning them so hard

924
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: that people have to take a time to breathe. And

925
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: once you learn that technical skill of how to do

926
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: a TV show set, then you can you can always

927
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: clean it up. So when I did showtime at the

928
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Speaker 2: Polo or, they was getting ready to Bullard system and

929
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: I had the flu when I did show time at

930
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Speaker 2: the Polo, but I was determined, you are not going

931
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: to boo me. I'm going to get to these jokes.

932
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: So by the time I get to the things that

933
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: I've done where my set wasn't great, it didn't bother me.

934
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: When I did Indecision ninety six with Bill Maher, they

935
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Speaker 2: wanted me to only talk about being a black Republican,

936
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: But there's jokes above and below that that you have

937
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: to do. So I love the fact that my career

938
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: is always a work in progress even now. Even now,

939
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: the Sheryl Underwood legend is what fused me to always

940
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Speaker 2: be a good comic and understand what to say any

941
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Speaker 2: given Sunday, Ye, any given stage time. You may not

942
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Speaker 2: get them that day, but you better have some jokes

943
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 2: that always bring them back to you. So deaf comedy

944
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Speaker 2: jam And that was also the first time that they

945
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: told me I couldn't take my person on stage.

946
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Speaker 4: Yeah, to tell people, you explained to me, I kind

947
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948
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949
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955
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956
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: But if you spend all your money on that, you

957
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,800
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958
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Speaker 2: If I get one good income text check, my car

959
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00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: sure my sister has twenty four hour care?

961
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Speaker 1: Right?

962
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: So I can adore my size. This is a synthetic

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Speaker 2: and I want to make some more of it. Two.

968
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Speaker 2: But you asked me the question about the purse. Really

969
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Speaker 2: it was a feeling of not just security. But when

970
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Speaker 2: I finish what I'm doing, I'm gonna walk out of

971
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Speaker 2: the venue. I saw Richard Lewis when he was alive,

972
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: great comic. He would only come into the club when

973
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Speaker 2: it was time for him to perform. You know, I

974
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Speaker 2: watch all comics. Mitch Harberg, Oh my god, in love

975
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Speaker 2: with Mitch Harberg, thought I was going to marry him.

976
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: I watch all comics to study them, to study their greatness.

977
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Speaker 2: Marshall warfare. She had a skill that I wanted to

978
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Speaker 2: learn how to do. So, when you're talking about telling jokes, yeah,

979
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Speaker 2: the joke is, why do you carry your person on stage?

980
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Speaker 2: Because white folks still any rate? End is a show enough?

981
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: Take two or three. That's a joke. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: It's a joke. And the and the second joke that

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Speaker 1: You got the gig, the comic view, you were the host?

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I had lost it. Yeah, Remember I had

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Speaker 2: lost it. I think two times? Did I lose it

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Speaker 2: are you against female comments? No, I support female commiss

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1030
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,160
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1031
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: didn't believe that these Sheryl Underwood could do a clean set.

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Speaker 2: They didn't believe it. They didn't believe the material that

1033
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Speaker 2: I was doing. I was out there telling o J.

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00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 2: Simpson jokes long before anybody else. I was telling God

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Speaker 2: Rest his Soul Kobe Bryant jokes, but I was telling

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1039
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Speaker 2: telling these jokes from a different position. I wasn't trying

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Speaker 2: knew that I wanted that humor to come off, and

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Speaker 2: I put it in the direction I felt that it

1043
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Speaker 2: should go. It wasn't all about him. It was all

1044
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Speaker 2: about a setup, you know. And those jokes were getting

1045
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: standing ovations O J. Simpsons jokes because we really wasn't

1046
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,280
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1049
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Speaker 2: Crump need to do a movie and a talk show

1050
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: because both of y'all some thick tongue intellectuals.

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Speaker 4: Big got that money though he ain't got no money,

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Speaker 2: cry with a thick tongue, and then y'all grew up

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Speaker 2: tongue just to thick. Make a lot of money. That

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Speaker 1: I might look at that, look into you thinkuld be

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Speaker 1: an actor?

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00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: Hey, oh yeah, hell yeah? You know what I like

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Speaker 2: for Okay, one thing I don't do devil worship. That's

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Speaker 2: why I'm not an actor. Now people say you act.

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Speaker 2: I was in beauty shop and I almost didn't get that.

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Speaker 2: I almost didn't get that. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: We had heard that they were looking for as Cheryl

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Speaker 1: Well, that why I get sure a little bit.

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Speaker 2: That's what I said. Right, So I got my happy

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Speaker 2: went in and auditioned and got the job. And matter

1073
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: of fact, it was Sherry Shepherd, who you know, she

1074
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 2: knew how to do movies. And one day I went

1075
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: to her trailer and I just burst into tears, and

1076
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: she said, what's wrong? I said, everything I'm trying to do.

1077
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: Either they've given it to somebody else or they don't

1078
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: want to do it with me. I said, I don't

1079
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: know how long I can do this. Maybe I need

1080
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: to go teach school. And we both got on our

1081
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 2: knees and she prayed for me that day, and that's

1082
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: when we went out to do the scenes. And you

1083
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: remembers monkey bread because I was catfish reader with a

1084
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: monkey bread and it made everybody laugh, and Queen Latifa said, Okay,

1085
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: you can keep doing that, and then they kept writing

1086
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: a bigger and bigger part for me. And that's how

1087
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: I get it.

1088
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 4: You negotiated comic they was getting one thousand dollars instead

1089
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: of one hundred and fifty. Why did you feel why

1090
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: did you feel you need at that moment? This was

1091
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 4: what Cheryl Underwood needed to do.

1092
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: We had heard that there was discussion I think it

1093
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: was Comedy Central with the white comics, and in these

1094
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: meetings there were black comics going, well what about comic

1095
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: view And being in a Greek letter organization, we know

1096
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: parliamentary procedure, we know meeting structure, and so when we

1097
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: went to the meeting, they said, well, you black people

1098
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: handle that, right, So we okay, we're going to handle that.

1099
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: And in the discussions we put together our committees, we

1100
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: reviewed laws, you know, see, that's why a college education

1101
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: and if you went to an HBCU, you really got

1102
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: a good education. You got life and education and culture.

1103
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: So those of us that were in Greek letter organizations

1104
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: and went to college and in HBCUs, we came together

1105
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 2: to form a sub unofficial subcommittee. So when it came

1106
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: time for certain things, and we had Tim Allen signing

1107
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: our petition in variety, Jay Leno, we had the comics

1108
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 2: backing a big time comics backing us when all we

1109
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: wanted it to be fair. But there was one thing,

1110
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: one line I said, I will not cross. We will

1111
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: not pick it Bob Johnson at BT, we will not

1112
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: do that. We will not give them the photo opportunity

1113
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: of us against another black man, right or wrong. I

1114
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: just didn't feel that that was the right thing to do,

1115
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: and I felt that he would do the right thing,

1116
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: and he did.

1117
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: Wow, people run up on stage fighting.

1118
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: Comedian ms Pass said he the fault comedians before were

1119
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 4: are you? I mean somebody has anybody ever run up

1120
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: on stage on you got mad to you saying something

1121
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 4: during your set?

1122
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: Has anybody else got.

1123
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: I was in Monrovia, California, and you know, I didn't

1124
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: know what kind of location Monrovia was. This is the

1125
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: kind of location that you don't see a lot of

1126
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 2: us in. You know what I'm saying. This was long

1127
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: before Trump was making America great. This was long before

1128
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: So I was booked to do a gig. I did

1129
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: the gig, and I guess some white man didn't like

1130
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: what I was talking about, and he threw a beer

1131
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: at my head and it passed my head and busted

1132
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: on the wild and it was beer splattered everywhere. But

1133
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you where a well placed joke goes.

1134
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: I was telling so many good sexual jokes. Other white

1135
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: boys whooped that dude's ass. What yeah this and then

1136
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: went finish your shot. Good comedy is still good comedy

1137
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: if you would just let us get to it. There

1138
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: are people that disagree with me on my political stances,

1139
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: or they may think that the show is too sexual.

1140
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: But once you walk into a nightclub, a comedy club,

1141
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm doing Harris. I want to do all casinos. I

1142
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: want to do all comedy clubs, not just for the

1143
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: money before the career. And so when you come into

1144
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: a nightclub experience, my job is to move food and

1145
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: drinks and entertain and not let people get up and

1146
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: walk out, so I will instinctively scan the audience to

1147
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 2: see what's going on. That's why I have two male

1148
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: acts with me, Kyle Irby and Mike Washington. Why because

1149
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't want a man to come into my show

1150
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: and go it's you go, it's an hour and a half.

1151
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: A niggas, ain't. That's not what my show is about.

1152
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: It is a love fest. It is a party. It

1153
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 2: is a house party. It's me talking like we talk,

1154
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and having a good time.

1155
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: And then at the end, guys get up. You can

1156
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: walk across the stage and you might win my money.

1157
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: That's why we mixing and mingling. But I will say this,

1158
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: the people who have been upset with my show, I've

1159
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: tried to polish my performance to a point where you go,

1160
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: wait on me. Something in my set. You're going to

1161
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: enjoy it. Just wait on me. Hold on, and do

1162
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: I need to buy you a drink? Because I was

1163
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: lighting white women up. I would lightening them back is up.

1164
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 2: And I saw you talking to Donnelle Rawlings about uh

1165
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: does he date them? Is that what he doing?

1166
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: I think so?

1167
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: You think? So?

1168
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: I think that's I don't know.

1169
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 4: I don't I think that she might be she might

1170
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 4: be like Latino or Hispanic or something like that.

1171
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: That's what about. That's brown. That's brown. That's brown on

1172
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: both sides, black and brown. But my thing is, I

1173
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: think we should let our men date whoever they want

1174
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: to date. If that's what you like.

1175
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like who liked me?

1176
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: That's me. That's that's how I feel when I was

1177
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 2: dating white men. Do you think I sought them out? No,

1178
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 2: white men want to date the darkest of us because

1179
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 2: they feel like that's the uncut, that's the bombs right.

1180
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that's what I want to love.

1181
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: I mean in dating them, it was a feeling that

1182
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: I had, but I wanted to be with who wanted

1183
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: to be with me?

1184
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what's wrong with that?

1185
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 2: I would say there is something wrong when it only

1186
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: goes to the bedroom. Why do you only like me sexually?

1187
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: If you might like me intellectually and sexually. And I've

1188
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 2: been in situations where white men, well, I'm taking you

1189
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: to the country club, and you're gonna go to country club.

1190
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to country club with you.

1191
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: Why I meet you at to nineteenth whole, I'm gonna

1192
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit down. You know what I'm talking about.

1193
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: I play golf to enjoy the course. I'm not a

1194
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: great golfer. I just want I hit it where it land.

1195
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: If I really get my game together, I can do

1196
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: pretty good. But I don't really play golf to talk

1197
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: to people. I play golf to enjoy the course. But

1198
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: if you taking me to the country club just to

1199
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: show how liberal or progressive you are, that was an

1200
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: uncomfortable feeling for me. So if you were a Latin

1201
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: man who was in love with me, I've had a

1202
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: lot of crushes in my life, Latin men, white men,

1203
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: Asian men, all kind of men, black men. But that's

1204
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: what I love. That's what I think understands me, understands

1205
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: when things don't go well. But I've sampled everything God

1206
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: had made on the buffet of love. But I'm not

1207
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: against our men eating outside of the race. What I'm

1208
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: against is when you down us to uplift somebody else.

1209
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: And that's why I was telling those jokes, where you

1210
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: get the worst that you can find. But I can't

1211
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: be what I am. I'm too talkative, I'm too ambitious,

1212
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm too strong. I gained five pounds for me. But

1213
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: you get with Becky that that's two sizes of me.

1214
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: And you remember, what's what's the show? Where is Maury?

1215
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: Listen to me? It's always a brother on there. Well,

1216
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: what if these are not your cho alone? They look

1217
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: like me and look, they got my eye, they got

1218
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: my nose. And this girl is the worst of the

1219
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: worst of the world. If you gonna get one of them,

1220
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: get Taylor Swell, don't get the worst one. I'm not

1221
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: against you white girls pulling our man, but some of

1222
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: these girls, I just want to look at a brother

1223
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: and go, I see it. I see right, that's right,

1224
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: that's that absolutely right. Get her together, put this on

1225
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: a treadmill, do something hen of the East, vestibals, or

1226
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: don't get the worst or the worst and then throw

1227
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: it in my face. That's what I don't like, and

1228
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: I don't think most black women like that either.

1229
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, if you if I had

1230
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: to say, okay, Cheryl, give me your gold comedians, it

1231
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 4: could be male men or women, give me your four

1232
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 4: comedians that you would consider Mount Rushmore.

1233
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Too many of the name and because of my personality,

1234
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: Why she didn't name this person why she didn't, well,

1235
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't really have. First of all, you're gonna have

1236
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: to have a bigger it's got to be a mountain range.

1237
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: It can't be a just four motherfuckers on a mountain

1238
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: because there's too many of us that are too good

1239
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: for too many time periods. When you talk about moms,

1240
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: maybe one of the greatest female comedians that made people

1241
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: feel good about all those adult jokes she was telling.

1242
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: But then you put up against Whoopi Goldberg, who was

1243
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: to me, her dialogue was so amazing, her ability to

1244
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: go in and out of characters so amazing. But I

1245
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: don't want anybody feel like somebody more because I can't

1246
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: do what Sherry Shepherd do that. And I'm sorry girl,

1247
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: because I know there's some comedians don't like to be

1248
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: called bitch, but I got to give your propers And

1249
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: speaking of that, Mellie Camacho one of the greatest comedians

1250
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, Hope Flood greatest comedians I've ever seen.

1251
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: There's too many out there the name and we haven't

1252
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: gotten our shot. So that's why I want to produce

1253
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: something that gives people their shot. Who would have thought

1254
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: somebody would have called me to be on daytime TV,

1255
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: and I'm a nightclub performer and I'll be there from

1256
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: season two to season fifteen of The Talk on CBS,

1257
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: the most conservative network. All we need is to shot.

1258
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: So an answer to your question, there are too many

1259
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: great comics that you see, these comics and we've been

1260
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: sitting around with each other. You know how hard it is.

1261
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: Not the choke laughing at Jamie Fox when he gets

1262
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: on a roll, and all of us have been friends,

1263
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: but then we talk about it when we showed a

1264
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: pitch of him with the Jerry Curl. That's comedians getting together.

1265
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: You know. So I really couldn't name you know who

1266
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: would be my time?

1267
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, are you mentioned Whope, flood

1268
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 4: yourself and some more and a Dell Gibbings and chocolate?

1269
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 4: So many of the young I remember so many of

1270
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 4: the women comedians back in the nineties. Yes, are they

1271
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: an upcoming crop of new women comedians?

1272
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: I think all these young ladies on social media, they

1273
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: got a one comic call, don't call me a white girl.

1274
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: I think this got a line. I ain't gonna say

1275
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: it because I want you all to hear it out

1276
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: of her mouth that I was hosting a show in

1277
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania and when she dropped that line on the people,

1278
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: I ran out and tackled up because it was such

1279
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: a good line. I'm a technical comic. I will listen

1280
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: to somebody sayingle damn, I wish I had wrote that,

1281
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So there are some great

1282
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: female comics. But also, you need time. You can write

1283
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: jokes every day, you can't polish every day. You need

1284
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: stage time. You need to understand why those of us

1285
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 2: that were doing adult comedy were doing adult comedy. And

1286
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: don't separate. Don't say well, this is a clean comedy.

1287
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: This are you a good comic? Right? And then they

1288
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: are comedic actors who who are decent stand ups. That's

1289
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 2: why I'm not gonna name names. They know who they are.

1290
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: You're a decent stand up, but you're a great comedic actor.

1291
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 4: So don't that that can act and be funny, be

1292
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 4: funny in front of the camera as opposed to getting

1293
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 4: up there and just it's just you and an audience.

1294
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely, And I'm gonna tell you something. When people say, like,

1295
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why earthquake has not been put in

1296
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: a position to do a redold of Safford and Son.

1297
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 2: I would be an ask them and they and they

1298
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: all you're doing is picking up junk. Right, you can

1299
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: do that today, Dale Higley, great comic, George Jefferson. Today,

1300
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: you can do these things. Now. Why is it that

1301
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: they get to reboot everything and we don't. You can

1302
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: do Uh, that's my mama. You can do what's happening now,

1303
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: which is nothing but COOLi I you can do this today.

1304
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: We need the opportunity to do it. And there's some

1305
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: great comedic actors, but we need the directors. We need

1306
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: the producers to be able to take what we're already

1307
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: doing in our head. See a stand up comic is

1308
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: the writer, producer, director in their head right, and the performer.

1309
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 2: We just need to be able to be produced in

1310
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: a way where we're confident in what you're doing. Because

1311
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: I already know what I can do for myself. How

1312
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: do I get confident enough to do it on screen

1313
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: and not want to turn to the audience? And that's

1314
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: where your cameras are. You're acting with the person, you're

1315
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: reacting to the person, and I know what you're thinking

1316
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: out there. You can be an actor. You saw me

1317
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: and I got the hook up. You know, damn well,

1318
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 2: I have no business. But that was master P. And

1319
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a story about that too. AJ Johnson

1320
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: got rest of so little ant Men and we have

1321
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: good friends. Right. So he's talking about master P. You

1322
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: got this movie right? And so I was taking care

1323
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: of my sister and I couldn't find a caregiver and everything,

1324
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: so I had to go to the audience. I took

1325
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: my sisters to the odds, you know, dislab with people.

1326
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: She in a hot car, so she fighting, pulling everything,

1327
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: pulling hair. After I said, you're gonna sit your ass

1328
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: right down here so I can go up here and

1329
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: get this job right. So I get up there and

1330
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: there's a line and everything, and I said, listen, I

1331
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: need to do this right now. I said, who the

1332
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: het is master P? Now I don't know who he is,

1333
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: I said, who master P? So he's me? I said,

1334
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 2: what the no, no, no, no, that ain't no lyric DJ

1335
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: Quick Kumo, d them lyricist, those rappers, producers, everything is that.

1336
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: So he's laughing because I'm talking to him the way

1337
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 2: I'm talking to him, and they write a whole new

1338
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: part for me to do this, and that's the second

1339
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: time is happening. The first time it happened. I was

1340
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 2: performing in the Mailrose Improv and I was there to

1341
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: showcase for Brandon Tartakoff when he was alive, and Brandon

1342
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: tartakov is who how Eddie Murphy and Okay? So I'm

1343
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: there to showcase for him and he tells me, I

1344
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: see you walking in on the scene in the sitcom,

1345
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: throwing up the joke and walking out like Marla Gibbs.

1346
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: See you're talking about a comedic actor, great woman, right,

1347
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, you really do that. So

1348
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: when it's my turn to get on stage, I get

1349
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: on stage and I see Annette Benning and Warren Baby

1350
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: sending in the audience. So I start telling these jokes

1351
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: about Bugsy you know is right when she threw that

1352
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: astray at his head, I said, you black, I said,

1353
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: only a real sister throw them from an ashtray with

1354
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: a lit cigarette, and that it's here. So I'm telling

1355
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: all these great jokes. So one Baby comes out making

1356
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: a movie, gives me all his information. I want you

1357
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: to come have a meeting with me. I'm making a movie.

1358
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: I want you in it. Now. How many times have

1359
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: we heard that? Boys and girls. So I go, all right,

1360
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: So I take the information, and something led me to

1361
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: call him, and he goes, I want you to come

1362
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: and drive up on Ma Holland. You know I'm not

1363
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: the greatest drive in the world. You know, so, because

1364
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: if you don't shift right, you're gonna roll all the

1365
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 2: way back down hall Am I right? So I go

1366
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 2: to the meeting. We're talking what I thought was a

1367
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: fifteen minute general meeting. We end up talking about four

1368
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: or five hours. Like me and you did in the car,

1369
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: we end up talking for five hours about politics. I'm

1370
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: a registered Republican who is really a conservative Democrat. He

1371
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: is a liberal Democrat. We're talking, but he's remembering things

1372
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: that I'm telling him and he's adding them to his script.

1373
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: So we're talking. Then the part that they wanted me

1374
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: to play. I think I was supposed to curse in

1375
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: a church. I did not know. You're not supposed to

1376
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: tell the casting director I'm not doing that.

1377
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: No, you can't do that. Okay.

1378
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: Why am I not supposed to tell them that, Shina, Because.

1379
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: They're the one that's gonna get you the job.

1380
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry. I fear God more than I fear man. God,

1381
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: don't know him down here doing a movie. God looking

1382
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: down going what you know? Why is she in my

1383
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: house cussing? Right? So I told him I wasn't gonna

1384
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: do it. I said, I'm not gonna do it, I said,

1385
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: And no self respecting black person would be cursing in

1386
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 2: their neighborhood church. I curse in the parking lot, but

1387
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm not cursing in the sanctuary. It's not going to happen.

1388
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: So they write apart from me, they write a whole

1389
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: different part from me, where the white dude. I think

1390
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: his name is Oliver Platt. He's an actor. He's supposed

1391
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: to bump into I think he was in a Time

1392
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 2: to Kill with Matthew mcconnat. Okay, So he bumps into

1393
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: my arm, and I'm supposed to say break yourself food,

1394
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: which I don't know who came up with break yourself?

1395
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't know the street okay, So did he? Did

1396
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: he come up with it?

1397
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: He's the first person I heard.

1398
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: Is it really okay? Didn't me?

1399
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: Maybe Smokey said it?

1400
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: It's okay? Does it break yourself?

1401
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: Break yourself post?

1402
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: Okay? So he that's the line I'm supposed to say.

1403
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: But I can't get it out the way they want

1404
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: me to say it. I keep saying, excuse me, so

1405
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: because that's the way I was raised. It's supposed to

1406
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: be an after hours, private black club with some white

1407
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: people in it, so obviously you must be guessed of

1408
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: somebody in this club. So Warren Baby, directing you know,

1409
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: he goes, cut, Cheryl, I need you to talk the

1410
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 2: way you normally talk. I said, what is that? And

1411
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: he said, I need you to be more animated. I

1412
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: said really, and he said, I need you to be

1413
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: more profane. Why. I said, you believe that black people

1414
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: only settle their differences with profane language and the animation.

1415
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: I said that that's not true. Now remember now all

1416
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: of the extras are black, right, So they all looking

1417
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: at the looking on the ground like, oh my god,

1418
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 2: this is talking back to Warren Baby. I said, I'm sorry,

1419
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 2: that's that's not how to go. If he bumps into

1420
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: my arm, knocks my drink on my hand, I would

1421
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: expect him to replace it with a higher level on

1422
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: the shelf top shelf drank. So people are trying not

1423
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: to laugh. So one baby goes, but what if I

1424
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: called your mother? I said, what, what'd you say. He said,

1425
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: what if I called your mother and he names my mother? Oh,

1426
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: he names mamay.

1427
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 4: I bet you got the I bet you got in

1428
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 4: the character these Listen, I said, listen, I laid that mother.

1429
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: My god, I said, I don't give up about splitting

1430
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: the grass? Raise what did Bonnie and Clyde? But I said,

1431
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: if you ever say my mother's name and in a

1432
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: sentence ever again, I'm gonna jump across this camera and

1433
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: whoop your ass. And he goes, I need you to

1434
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: do that right now action, And that's when I did.

1435
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: That's when I did it, and we became friends, and

1436
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: we became friends.

1437
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: That day you did radio with Steve Harvey. What was

1438
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: that experience? Like?

1439
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 2: Well, really, how I started was Tom Joyner? Oh really yeah?

1440
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 2: It was Tom Joyner that gave me one of my

1441
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: first consistent radio jobs. And then I wanted to I

1442
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: want to do radio, Like if we really do a

1443
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: podcast together, I want to merge it with terrestrial radio.

1444
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 2: I do not believe you can do anything without radio,

1445
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 2: because black people do not believe that Jesus is coming

1446
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: back until they hit it black ray, Am I right?

1447
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: And it's still in your car and it's still in

1448
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: your homes. And I believe that we can do some

1449
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: good merging podcasting with radio to build that audience. So

1450
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 2: Tom Joiner gives me a job. Then Rashan mcd on

1451
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: Steve Harvey say, okay, why don't you come work over

1452
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 2: here with us and I go where the money is.

1453
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: It's no dislike of anybody, no dislike. Matter of fact,

1454
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: would you be willing to bring your podcast on the

1455
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: fantastic voyage that Tom joined a cruise? Would you want

1456
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 2: to so we can benefit some HBCUs. I'm just asking you.

1457
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: Would you you ask me for real?

1458
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm asking you for real? Would you consider it?

1459
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 2: Would you consider it?

1460
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: Because I thought were going out on the cruise.

1461
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: I think, I know, I don't know. Let me find it.

1462
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: Can be on zoo while y'all on the cruise.

1463
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: Why are you scattered water?

1464
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1465
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: Well I could tell your ash Helen had then had

1466
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 2: over you. Bet it's somebody. Why don't you ask.

1467
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: You star that water? Here?

1468
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: You scattered being on the boat? Well, why don't you

1469
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 2: get on the Why don't you get on the first

1470
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: part in New Orleans and do it from there and

1471
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: then you can go home? Okay, Okay, Well, I'll tell

1472
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: you what. I'll find the cities. Let's see we can

1473
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: make it work. But I will tell you this, Tom

1474
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: Joyner being a radio man, and I wanted to do radio,

1475
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: but they don't. I don't see them. The only girl

1476
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: that I see doing I think Cafe Mocha is doing it.

1477
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: There's some other sisters that are doing radio, but I

1478
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: don't see them leading their own show in a way

1479
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: that you see the guys. Addie mcgrire is the only

1480
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: one that I see doing it, and I'm so proud

1481
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 2: of her. But I want to do what Ricky.

1482
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,799
Speaker 1: And DL okay.

1483
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: I want to lead lead a show. But on the

1484
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: other hand, Steve Harvey gave me those opportunities, all that

1485
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: footage from the Hoodie Awards. I was gonna get past

1486
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: the SAP. I thought I would be a great first lady.

1487
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: I give him drinking cussin at least in your presence, brother,

1488
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: you know. But I wanted to do those different things.

1489
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: But what you see is the opportunity that people really respect.

1490
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 2: And it was Steve Harvey. When I thought somebody was

1491
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: playing on my phone and I did not believe that

1492
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 2: it was CBS calling me for an interview for.

1493
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: The job Prank by Kevin Hart Steve Joe.

1494
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 2: I called, they asked us every number I had and

1495
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 2: stopped playing on my mo This thing was like, you

1496
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: might want to call him back, It might be CBS,

1497
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: and he was right, and he was right. So I

1498
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: never want us to be pitted against each other, but

1499
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 2: I do want us to help each other. We should

1500
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,879
Speaker 2: be doing cooking shows, we should be doing sports panels,

1501
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: we should be doing everything because we're funny and we're

1502
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: smart and we can do it all.

1503
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 4: Beauty Shop, it was Queen the Tea for theyll Givings,

1504
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 4: Lord Hayes, Sherry Shepherd.

1505
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,919
Speaker 1: Because Lord Hayes, wouldn't she on? Yes, Miss Laard.

1506
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 2: Okay and toll Up Death Comedy.

1507
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 4: Mr Lisa Simms, Omar Hedrick, Lisa Ray, Octavia Spencer bird Man.

1509
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: How was that experience?

1510
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: It was a great experience to watch a great producing,

1511
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 2: you know, to watch Queen thea Ta for pull that

1512
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: together with her team, and to watch us as an ensemble.

1513
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: Alisia Silverstone, the girl that was saying clueless. Yes, that

1514
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 2: was funniest. I don't know what. It was a really

1515
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: good experience in one of my first movies, between a

1516
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: beauty Shop, I got the hook up two can play

1517
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 2: that game. Vivica Fox gave me a lot of jobs too,

1518
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: And I really loved being in Beauty Shop because they

1519
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 2: let me add lib. But I also could understand the

1520
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: parameters of the script. What I try to do. The

1521
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 2: one thing that I was taught was do what's written

1522
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 2: on the page first, and then ask them can I

1523
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: show you something? And then stay within the parameters of

1524
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 2: the script because if you add live so far away,

1525
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: then the other actors can't say they line or do

1526
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: what they want to do. That's why I want to produce.

1527
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: I want to produce. I have gospel playscripts. I have

1528
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: people that I pay. I'll write the idea, they'll write

1529
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 2: the script. Because I want to put people to work.

1530
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: We can do it like Tyler is doing it. You know,

1531
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: Tyler got the studio. Come on, let's all work together

1532
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 2: and help each other. There's enough money out there for

1533
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: all of us. So that's what Beauty Shop really poured

1534
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: into me. Why don't we work together more because you

1535
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: want to see them, You want to see them from

1536
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: the people. Because he won't if he was just if

1537
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: he would just give get a taste, a little taste.

1538
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: I would come to work early. No, I'm just kidding. Well,

1539
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: why don't you and I work again? No?

1540
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: Why don't? Why don't we want? Oh?

1541
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 2: Nigga? I thought, I'm sorry about you? Man? Why we

1542
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 2: like me and you don't we that we got work together?

1543
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 1: Because whatever in your life gonna be mad?

1544
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: Why is she here?

1545
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: That's what.

1546
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 2: That's what's gonna happen. I think that I think we

1547
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: have the money. Uh, we have the pull and the influence.

1548
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: Back when they were making what they call black Explortation fail,

1549
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: Sweet Back, Come On, Mad Baddest movie, and uh, the

1550
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: MAC was really about some brothers up in Oakland run

1551
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: a club called Sweet Jimmy's. We can do that again, Superfly.

1552
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: We can do that again and have a soundtrack and

1553
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't take a lot of money. One thing I

1554
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: would ask everybody to do. Don't come in and try

1555
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: to make the money. Make up the money that you

1556
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 2: haven't gotten. You're gonna price us out right. We have

1557
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 2: to understand as a business, do the movie and take

1558
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 2: the percentage right, promote the movie. We can make a

1559
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 2: movie in six weeks. But if we come together, the writers,

1560
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: the producers, the hairstylist everything. We can fry the chicken

1561
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 2: for the craft service, do what we need to do.

1562
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: And if we do that and our movies are making money,

1563
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,959
Speaker 2: they will invest in us again because it's about commerce.

1564
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: And I think we can change that narrative. And I

1565
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 2: know you can because you took a little show Club Chase.

1566
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: She and I'm calling it a little show because it

1567
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: wasn't as big as it was. And then here comes

1568
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 2: Kat Williams. I remember Cat when he was Kat and

1569
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: a hat, and let me tell you, look, Kat Williams. Third,

1570
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 2: while we're talking. I remember Cat when he was Kat

1571
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: and the hat, doing the jokes about the short dude

1572
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: in the car and all that stuff. We knew he

1573
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: was funny then. And I had got the host job

1574
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: for Comic View and Cat Williams performance. I think it

1575
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: was me, Kat and Michael Caryer, and I think Mike

1576
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: Washington was on that show. We have the comedy connection.

1577
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: I think it was in Greenbelt, Maryland. If I'm not mistaken,

1578
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: I stay corrected. I watched Cat Williams do, I said,

1579
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: I called Steven Hill, I said, get here as fast

1580
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 2: as you can. I have watched something great. Wow. They

1581
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: said what is it. Cat Williams is destroying a room

1582
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: and I cannot follow him. Now, I got courage. I

1583
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: did what I needed to do that night. But what

1584
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: I saw was something special, I said. And so Stephen

1585
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 2: gets there and he's looking at it. He's dying, laughing.

1586
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: I said, I need that guy on my season of

1587
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 2: Comic View, and he was like, well, why would you

1588
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: do that? I said, cause he's going to be big

1589
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: and he's special and this is his shot and everything propelled.

1590
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: He was already doing great stuff, but everything propelled. I

1591
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: just want us to if we disagree, agree in private. Yes,

1592
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and you can tell your

1593
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 2: version of the story. I'm telling my versions of the stories.

1594
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: But you notice that I'm editing myself because I'm not

1595
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: going to do it at the expense of someone's self esteem.

1596
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Kat did that. I'm just saying I

1597
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 2: knew Cat which was gonna be special because I saw

1598
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: it in him, and I was willing to step back.

1599
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 2: You gotta know when you can't follow something, you gotta

1600
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: know it. That's why I hold you that.

1601
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: I got to hook up, and I got the hook

1602
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: up too. Master p. You mentioned John Witherspoon.

1603
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 2: I love master P. I love Master P. Great business man,

1604
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: very very smart. Always gave me an opportunity. You know

1605
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: who else gave me an opportunity? Did Uncle Luke?

1606
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: Really?

1607
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: Yes? When I was first doing really really raw raw materials,

1608
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: not like my stuff, I ain't wrong now, but this

1609
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 2: is where I was policing really yeah. Yeah, And he said, Cheryl,

1610
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 2: I want you to you know, recourse some material for

1611
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: us and put it out there. And you notice something

1612
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: in all the stuff that's going on with the sexuality,

1613
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: you know, and gambling people and everything who name is

1614
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 2: not in it. Uncle lou he started it, but he

1615
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 2: didn't do it. He didn't cross that line. He didn't

1616
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: cross that line. It may have been a party atmosphere, yes,

1617
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: but he didn't do things. Power corrupts, and we have

1618
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: got to start protecting each other and don't do that shit.

1619
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: When you football player, did they still give you a handler,

1620
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: a person that kept you out of trouble when you

1621
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 2: first got in the league.

1622
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: No?

1623
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 4: No, I mean you know, we used to have these

1624
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 4: videos where they say, well, you know, obviously you can't

1625
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 4: gamble and be careful who you associate with. But I

1626
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 4: was very very fortunate that I had an older brother

1627
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: that was in the league that could guide me in Yes,

1628
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 4: that could guide me and let me know, Okay, bro,

1629
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 4: this is this is how you need to do it.

1630
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: This is what you need to do. Everybody doesn't handle that.

1631
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you know, Cheryl,

1632
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 4: you know, grown men is gonna do what grown men

1633
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 4: do because it's kind of like you have a financial

1634
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 4: vis and he might say, Cheryl, you don't need to

1635
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 4: do this. What is your is Eryl's money, and Cheryl

1636
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 4: takes the money and do. All he can do is advice.

1637
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: Advice and council. But why do you have them if

1638
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 2: you don't take advice and counsel. I'm gonna shout out

1639
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: my business man. The later returner, I like to thank you.

1640
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: I thought he was black because he had a whole

1641
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 2: name on his card. It was Lawrence J. Turner. I said,

1642
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: the brothers is doing They attorney, they financial plannet. I

1643
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 2: walk in a little too it, dude. I was like, well,

1644
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 2: what's up, grow my If you can show me that

1645
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: you know what you're talking about, I have a saying

1646
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 2: don't wake up in the middle of surgery talking to

1647
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: the surgeon let people do what they gonna do. If

1648
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna take advice and council, take advice and council exactly.

1649
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 2: But sometimes you get so much money and power that

1650
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 2: you start to do things and people are afraid to

1651
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 2: tell you. Don't do that. You know, and don't record this?

1652
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 2: What is what the recording of the documentation of And

1653
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this. I grew up in Chicago.

1654
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 2: I was running these streets. We knew r. Kelly And

1655
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 2: it's a lot of stuff that we know about people.

1656
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 2: But how do we save someone from themselves? And how

1657
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 2: do we teach? With great fame comes great responsibility, right,

1658
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 2: and money and power, and if you treat it right,

1659
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 2: God will give you more. You don't have to do

1660
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: this wild stuff that you're doing, and you don't have

1661
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 2: to take it out on people. People say, well, money change.

1662
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 2: People know, money makes you more.

1663
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: You are, That's that is right. I mean you are

1664
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: who you are.

1665
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. I've walked up on I bucked up on

1666
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 2: a lot of dudes and they be like, na, sir,

1667
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: you're a good girl. I'm like, I'm glad you think

1668
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: that right. I'm gonna circle this bar one more time

1669
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 2: and if you still hear when I come back, so

1670
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: on a pop fit right, and if you buy you

1671
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: this drink, let's go right. But like you said, you

1672
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: have choice. But there's gotta be somebody there, especially these

1673
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: young boys. It could destroy their life. That's why I

1674
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: have a sports initiative Young boys. Young is three years

1675
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 2: old learning different sports but also getting the education. But

1676
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 2: we need you men to come back into these boys'

1677
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: lives so they will unders you have somebody to talk to.

1678
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: You have big brothers out there, and don't put everything

1679
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 2: on social media. All your street soldiers out there holding

1680
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 2: all the money up. The irs is watching and they

1681
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: waiting on you. And if you had a PPP long

1682
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: and now you and jail, but ain't nobody else in jail?

1683
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 2: Come on, man, we can do this better. What else

1684
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 2: you want to ask?

1685
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 4: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

1686
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 4: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

1687
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 4: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

1688
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 4: simply go back to Club Shay profile and I'll see

1689
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 4: you there