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Speaker 1: it going? As they would say in Russia, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I got a Russian phrase book when I was a

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Speaker 1: And I learned, and I learned ski. Do you speak English?

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Speaker 1: That's useful? And uh. And if someone asked, Puski, do

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Speaker 1: it was about seventeen languages long, and yeah, Russian was

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Speaker 1: I majored in English already spoke exactly. Well, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show, and happy New Year everybody. Yeah, coming

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Speaker 1: up on the whole brand new thing where everything changes

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Speaker 1: a terrible time to reinvent yourself. I agree, it's not

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Speaker 1: That's a great time to sort of setting new a

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Speaker 1: if it's hard for you this time of year, try

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Speaker 1: she went from bloody revenge to born again reverence. Please, hey,

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Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. Prince Igor the First,

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Speaker 1: And welcome back to the show, my pritties, My pritties.

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Speaker 1: wicked witch of the West, my britties, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: somewhere like, oh this is very good, delicious. Because the

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00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: Drevelans got plastered and once they were too tipsy to

422
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: know any better, she ordered her followers to slaughter them,

423
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: and according to the primary chronicle quote one about herself

424
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: egging on her retinue to the massacre of the Drevelans,

425
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: it claims that five thousand dreve LANs were killed this night.

426
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: She's walking around like that was a great stab, Volodia.

427
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: Let us try it again on this guy, but this

428
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: time it is crotched. Then is hard? Oh my god? Yeah,

429
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: she was having a grand old time part of the

430
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: most entertaining funeral kievrews had ever seen a lot more funerals,

431
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, after that funeral, in what they say,

432
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: one funeral begets five thousand more old Russians saying. Yeah,

433
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: her movie is four funerals and the funeral for one

434
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: funeral and five thousand funerals. That's her. That's her. So

435
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: Olga's body counts pretty high at this point. Okay, you'd

436
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: think maybe she felt like her first for revenge was

437
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: finally slack, but no, she is still not through with

438
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: these dreve LANs. She head on back to Kiev to

439
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: get her army together for a proper funk about. She's

440
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: like this time you're gonna know I'm coming in why.

441
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: And her initial attack went really, really well. They won handily.

442
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: They drove all the dreve Leans back to their cities,

443
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: and all those cities pledged loyalty to Kievan Rich. Sure,

444
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: like this girl is crazy, Okay, yeah, they're like, listen,

445
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: we lost parent square. Here's your stuff. Please leave me alone.

446
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm so scared of you. I will not come over. No,

447
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: thank you. She's like, ken, I the do a message.

448
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: Please don't. Anytime you send me a message, something terrible happened.

449
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: She like tries to give someone something nice. Here's a

450
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: nice loaf of bread, and they're like, I don't want

451
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: to touch it. Poison there's a bomb in it. I

452
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: don't know. Definitely. So that all went great. And then

453
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: she marched on the capital city, Escortostin, and laid siege

454
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: to it. And this was not as easily done. Olga's

455
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: army and the dread Lands were in a standoff that

456
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: lasted a full year. Well, and obviously that was not

457
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: going to work for Olga. Right, She's not trying to

458
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: sit around for years. So she put her twisted mind

459
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: to work and thought of a trick to play on

460
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: the Dan. She sent them a message they should never

461
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: accept a message. Never accept a message. She sent them

462
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: a message saying, quote, why do you persist in holding out?

463
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: All of your cities have surrendered to me and submitted

464
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: to tribute, so that the inhabitants now cultivate their fields

465
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: and they're lands in peace. But you had the rather

466
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: tide of hunger without submitting to tribute. And the dread

467
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: Leans were like, actually, we would submit to tribute, but

468
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: we feel like you're still mad about the whole ripping

469
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: your husband and half thing, and you're just gonna kill us.

470
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: Fooled me twice, burned me, locked me in a bathhouse

471
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: and burn it down. Shame on uh, kill five thousand

472
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: of us drunk his hail after after a funeral, Shame

473
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: on me again a lot again, got a lot of

474
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: shames on me lately. I feel like I've had enough,

475
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: and August like, oh no, I have no fear. When

476
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: I murdered all your diplomats, and then when I murdered

477
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: a bunch more during my husband's funeral, remember that. Well, anyway,

478
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: that was plenty for me. I'm all good now, no worries.

479
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: And if the Drevelans really were ready to pay up.

480
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: She said, the tribute must be three pigeons and three

481
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: sparrows from each house. Okay, it's like an o G

482
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: twelve days of message. And she's like, send me twenty

483
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: eight birds now, and the travelins history is greatest fools.

484
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: We're like, hey, she said, she's done. She said enough,

485
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: We're good. She's happy. This is great. If there's one

486
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: thing I know about bloodthirsty killers, it's that eventually they've

487
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: had enough. So instead of massacring us or letting us

488
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: starve inside our capital, or asking for an enormous tribute

489
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: that would totally impoverish us, all she wants is some birds.

490
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: Like this is great, Man Tad's we got birds for days,

491
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: nothing to worry about. So every house in is Grosston

492
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: sent their six birds to Olga and they probably went

493
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: to bed feeling safe for the first time in a

494
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: year because the standoff was over. But they were fooled. Surprise, surprise,

495
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: what Here's here's here's August twisted plan. This time. She

496
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: she takes up all these birds, and she has her

497
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: army take every bird, and they would tie like a

498
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: long string and at the end of it was a

499
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: piece of sulfur with like a cloth wrapped around it.

500
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: This was tied to the bird's leg and that night

501
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: they set the sulfur on fire, and then they set

502
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: the birds free. The birds are freaking out. They've got

503
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: like a piece of fire tied to their legs, so

504
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: they're flying their asses back home. They all go back

505
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: to where they came from, and every sparrow and pigeon

506
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: returned to their nests in is Grosston setting everything in

507
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: the city on fire. Primary chronicle says, quote, there was

508
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: not a house that was not consumed, and it was

509
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: impossible to extinguish the flames because all the houses caught

510
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: fire at once. As plans go, this is hell a

511
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: diabolical nuts. And of course some Drevelans were able to

512
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: flee once they realized, oh everything's burning, and I've or

513
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: get the hell out of here. But Olga she ain't

514
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: no full She had her soldiers lying in wait outside

515
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: the city and they just either executed or captured everyone

516
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: who went running, and you know, took the took the

517
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: prisoners as slaves for Olga's followers, and any Trevelin left

518
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: over after this devastating attack was allowed to pay tribute

519
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: and she's like, and you're welcome. She went back to

520
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: Kiev triumphant. The revenge scheme here is so insane, Like

521
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: she was literally like, you killed one of us, so

522
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: now all day all your birds are dead, all your

523
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: houses did, and all your people did. I don't want

524
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: to hear another fucking thing about it, dreve Lean. Ever, again,

525
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: she came for the birds, she came for everything. And

526
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: so Olga continued to rule kievan Russ because her son

527
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: was still too young to do it himself. So she

528
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: instituted some changes. She established boundary post trading hosts, hunting

529
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: areas and towns across the empire, which kind of was

530
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: like the first time anyone was marking their territory in

531
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: this permanent way. You know, she was establishing real boundaries.

532
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: She also changed the process of peugia, which was how

533
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: rulers collected the tributes from their various subjugated nations. Byzantine

534
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: sources relate that the regent would leave the capital in

535
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: the winter, they traveled the empire and collect cash, goods

536
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: and slaves as tributes until they returned to the capital

537
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: in April, and that happened every year. But Igor had

538
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: shown unnecessary greed by demanding additional tributes from the Dreblans,

539
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: and naturally, after he was torn into olda was a

540
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: little less interested in the old ways of doing s

541
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: like to work out too well for you, those room

542
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: for improvement, so she appointed her own officials to do

543
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: that collecting for her, kind of like tax collectors. And

544
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense to me because it's like

545
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: the bureaucrat goes to the dread Lands and it's like,

546
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: give me a tribute and they kill him. That doesn't

547
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: really put the kingdom at risk. We got tons more bureaucrats.

548
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: We'll just keep plenty of them. Yeah, we got bodies

549
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: for days. We don't have, you know, princes for days.

550
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: So it actually that put them in in danger of

551
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: a coup, you know. Again, they were like, if we

552
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: Mary Olga, now it's dread Leans are in charge of

553
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: the right freaking place, um, and a bureaucrat that wouldn't

554
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: work out. Also, a bureaucrat unlike Igor wouldn't have a

555
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: personal connection to these tributes, so maybe would not get

556
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: but hurt halfway home and turned around and they get

557
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: brutally murdered. She's like, anyway, I feel like, this is

558
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna work out great. She's like, if anybody's getting ripped

559
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: in half, it ain't gonna be me. Yeah, it's gonna

560
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: be some patsy, Yeah, some idiot. Yeah. And this is

561
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: considered the first legal reform recorded in Eastern Europe. Pretty cool.

562
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: She also dodged multiple marriage proposals to save the power

563
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: of the throne her son. So it wasn't like there's

564
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: no more romance to this story. It was just romance

565
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: that she was shooting down left and right. And at

566
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: some point Olga became interested in this idea of Christianity.

567
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: This religious fervor would eventually get her a meeting with

568
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: Emperor constant In the seventh of Constantinople, and it would

569
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: also put her at odds with her son, and eventually

570
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: this would change the entire country of Russia. So let's

571
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: find out more about that right after this. Everyone, that

572
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: means welcome back there you go, probably terribly pronounced sorry Russia. Well.

573
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: Sometime in the nine fifties, Olga traveled to Constantinople to

574
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: meet with constant In the seventh, who apparently was very

575
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: taken with her. He found her quote fair of countenance

576
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: and wise as well pretty and smart. This is another

577
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: hello weise. He told her that she was quote worthy

578
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: to reign with him in his city according to the

579
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: primary chronicle, which may have meant that he was interested

580
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: in marrying her, possibly just to gain power over the

581
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: Kievan Russ. But Olga was you know, she was more

582
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: savvy than these emperors, these old Stadgy boys, these old

583
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: She was fresh, she was smart, she was ruthless, and

584
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: she loved to murder. She wanted to be baptized, but

585
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: she also wanted to maintain her political independence and keep

586
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: her country out of the Byzantine Empire. So she told

587
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: Constantine that she was still pagan and she wanted to

588
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: convert and be baptized by the emperor himself. After he

589
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: baptized her with the name Helena, he proposed marriage, but

590
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: she said, oh, oh no, oh, we can't do that.

591
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: Look it says right here, church law says that a

592
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: godfather can't marry his god daughter. That would be spiritual incest. Oh, sorry,

593
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: should have read that first. I guess she is. You know,

594
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: we should really pay more attention when we make decisions.

595
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: And Constantine replied, quote, Olga, you have outwitted me. He

596
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: knew that he was like, you that ship first, that's

597
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: why you asked for me, you sneaky wench. But he

598
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: he seemed to respect it. He had no hard feelings.

599
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: He gave her a bunch of gifts of gold, silver,

600
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: silks and vases, and he let her go home. He

601
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: still called her his daughter, so they always had this

602
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: cute thing. Oh daughter, Remember when I proposed to you,

603
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: oh father, I do remember. It was very creepy. This

604
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: is a very different godfather, your classic godfather. Um. Here

605
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: again we meet with a little bit of historical controversy. Um.

606
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: Some people have argued that this is our friend nest

607
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: Or the Monk, having a little fun in his primary

608
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: chronicle and making ship up, kind of like Leo the Deacon.

609
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: He just wanted better story. So he's like, how about

610
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: if she outwitted Constantine? Because Olga was definitely baptized by

611
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: Constantine in seven and apparently at that time he already

612
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: had an empress, so it's would be very unusual for

613
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: him to be proposing marriage to someone else. There's also

614
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: indications that she was actually already baptized in Kiev in

615
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: and this was like a second baptism. Well, speculation station

616
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: what if she was already baptized, and she just pretended

617
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: she wasn't justice so he wasn't even really technically spiritually

618
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: her godfather true. And she was like, but you are,

619
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: so what does he doodle? Yeah, that's probably maybe maybe. Look,

620
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: it's a fun story. I like to believe the fun

621
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: story is in history. I know that's especially when it

622
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: doesn't matter now it really Yeah, no one is alive

623
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: to be hurt by these rumors. So I think it's

624
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: a fun story, and I'm I'm personally I'm going to

625
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: decide it's true. I heard it here first. But her baptism,

626
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: whenever it did happen, it marked an important historic turning

627
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: point for the region. Olga went home a Christian, though

628
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: not the first Christian introduce by any means. Igor's court

629
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: had several Christians in five but Olga was the most

630
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: powerful person introduced to convert, and like many Christians, she

631
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: was also ready to proselytize and start converting others. She

632
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: started naturally with her son Swiateslav, but he was totally

633
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: not into it. Uh. He was a soldier and he

634
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: wasn't really particularly interested in doing the administration work of

635
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: ruling a nation. But he was very interested in expanding it,

636
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: and he spent pretty much all his time battling with

637
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: neighboring states with his company of warriors or through Zina Throa.

638
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: It sounds so much more like it is threatening, Yeah,

639
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: war like if I if, I I hope they chanted,

640
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: I hope a bunch of army of soldiers stomped up

641
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: and went, slammed their spears down. Went. Apparently it means company,

642
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: so that would be funny. In English company, you're like,

643
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: are you talking about the musical theater show? I love

644
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: that show? Oh my god, are you guys about to

645
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: do it? Now? Let me get some power, whereas an

646
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: army of musical theater people are way more likely to

647
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: walk up and stomp and I'll chant the name of

648
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: their show in Unison. That's so true, much less intimidating,

649
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: very non threatening. But the primary chronicle says that he

650
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: didn't bring any wagons or kettles with him, or even

651
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: a tent. When he was traveling with the Rusina. He

652
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: would spread out a horse blanket and lay his head

653
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: on his saddle, just like everyone else. He thought that

654
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: the other soldiers would make fun of him if he

655
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: became a christian He was very into like being on

656
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: their level and making sure everybody thought he was cool,

657
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: and he didn't want to lose their respect. That was

658
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: that was totally the most important thing to him. I mean, well,

659
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: and if you're commanding an army, they don't respect you exactly.

660
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: We all know how that turns out. And it's you

661
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: did and it was very you know, to to the

662
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: manly soldiers at the time, it was very darky to

663
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: convert to Christianity. So Olga was like, but if you

664
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: do it, they'll do it because you're leader, so everybody

665
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: will be Christian and it'll be the cool thing to do,

666
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, be a trendsetter. Yeah, use your influence and

667
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: make them all converted. But he was you know, you

668
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: know boys. He was like, mom, you don't understand, like

669
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: these guys would never convert, and if I do, they'll

670
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: call me a mama's boy. But you know, Olga, she

671
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: wasn't having it. She like she totally youth passed her

672
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: her chair, turned it around back where its sat down,

673
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 1: and said, you know who else was a mama's boy?

674
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. And then some fun pop music started to play,

675
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: so you knew it was school, but that did not work.

676
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: Suyatoslav was not down to clown with Christianity. It didn't

677
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: matter how many fun dance numbers she came up with, whatever,

678
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: So he stayed a pagan. But thanks to her influence,

679
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: he did say that he would not persecute any Christians

680
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: or anybody who converted to sanity, and that was a

681
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: pretty significant concession at the time. And despite a lack

682
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: of interest and sometimes outright hostility from her people, Olga

683
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: built churches in Kiev and other cities, and she did

684
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: get some people to convert. She even went to the

685
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: Holy Roman Emperor Otto in ninety nine and asked him

686
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: to appoint a bishop and priests in Ruce so that

687
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: they'd be like part of, you know, the whole Christian system.

688
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: And she was, you know, she's up to her tricks

689
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: again with this idea, because she kind of thought that

690
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: the Byzantine priests would convert more people in Ruth if

691
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: they had a little competition from the West, like they'd

692
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, we want to make more Christians

693
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: than they get. So if they come in with Roman people,

694
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: maybe little lack fire under their ass. They put like

695
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: two little thermometers up on a corkboard. But two years later,

696
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: when the bishop and priests finally got to Kievan Ruce,

697
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: they were quickly expelled by pagan allies of Sviatoslav and

698
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: they went back to Rome without having made much headway,

699
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: kind of empty handed. No souls for the lord, sorry,

700
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: but those Viadeslav had taken over by this point. As

701
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: we said, he wasn't really very interested in administrating, so

702
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: while he was out on countless military campaigns Olga remained

703
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: in Kiev with her grandchildren, still with her hand on

704
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: the wheel. Oh yes, you go ahead, son, you go

705
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: play in your little army battles. I will handle things here.

706
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if Olga was my mother, and

707
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: I'd be like, mother, have You've been doing such a

708
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: good job? But why would I take the way from here?

709
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: You fill out at a bit paperwork. I go out

710
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: in my bang a sword together. It'll be great. Try

711
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: not to murder too many people while I'm gone. But

712
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: if you do, oh well, I trust your judgment. They

713
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: had it coming. It reminds me very much of Emperor

714
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: Kara Kala, who we talked about in our episode about

715
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: the Empress Ella Gabilis, who also left his mom in

716
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: charge when he went off to war and stuff. Isn't

717
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: that funny? These men were like, yeah, feeding people, keeping

718
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: the ship off the street. Paperwork, Thanks mom, can you

719
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: do my paperwork? I want to go play Battle Wars? Basically,

720
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: But while Olga was at the helm and sat Slav

721
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: was off defeating Bulgarian ruler Boris the Second and occupying

722
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: all of northern Bulgaria, the Byzantine Empire bribed the Pashinigs

723
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: to lay siege to Kiev. Ruce's allies beat back the army,

724
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: and Olga wrote a reproachful letter to Siato Slav, probably

725
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: saying something like, oh you're you know, you're out there

726
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: fighting with Bulgaria and meanwhile the Bysantines are making a

727
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: fool out of you in your own back yard. She's like,

728
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: come on, I said, fighter to the entire city of Escosta.

729
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: I didn't do that just for you. Go to play

730
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: games and and have your ass shown here. Back home,

731
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: get the dinner's ringing the dinner bell, Come home now

732
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: this way past. You're defending the city. Time. So he

733
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: hot footed it back to Kiev and soundly defeated the

734
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: passion Eggs, and they did continue to threaten Kiev, but

735
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: at least he showed him what's what. Yeah, But then

736
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: he decided that he wanted to move the capital from

737
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: Kiev to peru Levitz, which is the center of the empire,

738
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: because it had this great potential to become a trading hub.

739
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: He explained that, to plets quote, all the richest flow gold, silks,

740
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: wine and various fruits from Greece, silver and horses from

741
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: Hungary and Bohemia, and from Ruth's spurs, wax, honey and slaves.

742
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: But Olga, who was in poor health, pleaded with him

743
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: to delay his move until she died, which was only

744
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: three days later, so she basically made it through this siege,

745
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: got him to come home, and then perished essentially, and

746
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: Sviatoslav wept for her, of course, as his mother, And

747
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: even though he didn't really respect her religion, he did

748
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: respect her dying wishes to have a priest prey over

749
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: her body instead of throwing the traditional pagan funeral feasts.

750
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: And I wonder if she was kind of like you know,

751
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: I when I threw for Igor. Nothing could compare I

752
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: think it. Any party would be flat after that, So

753
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: let's just go with a regular one. Son Marita Flowers

754
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: and then all the time that she spent with her

755
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: grandchildren that paid off too, because although Olga wasn't able

756
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: to convert Bruce to Christianity in her lifetime, her grandson

757
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: Vladimir came to power in Night After you know, classic

758
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: power achieving stuff, like some good old fashioned fratricide. He

759
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: was forced to flee to Scandinavia and then he got

760
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: a collab going with Norway and they all came back

761
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: and took the throne for him, and then he converted

762
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: to Christianity and made it the national religion. So he's

763
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: thinking about Grandma and her religion and was like, you know,

764
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: that worked out pretty well for me. I actually saw

765
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: in in a ted ed talk by Alex Gendler that

766
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: Vladimir considered many religions. He had his people go out

767
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: and explore all these nearby religions to see it was

768
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: time to change and they want to do to something else.

769
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: And they came back and told him about Islam and

770
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: he was like, this sounds pretty good. And they said

771
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: and also alcohol is forbidden and he said, nope, never mind,

772
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: this is ruth and all we drink. Yeah. I don't

773
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. So that's pretty much how

774
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: he settled on Christianity on grandma's old religion. That's so funny,

775
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: But it was thanks to Olga's proselytizing influence that the

776
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: Russian Orthodox Church exists at all. So in fifteen forty seven,

777
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: six hundred years after her death, they made Olga a saint,

778
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: the patron saint of widows and converts. Yeah, so if

779
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: you're a widow and you've decided to lay seeds to

780
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: the whole city and burn a bunch of people alive,

781
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: make sure to send some prayers to Olga that all

782
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: your plans go perfectly. They were like, let's not make

783
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: her the patron saying of birds or thatched roof cottages.

784
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is Olga trogdor? Olga is the bernonder

785
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: bernd the countryside. Oh man, I hope some of you

786
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: are too young to get that joke. I know, right,

787
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was the website though. Wow, Wow,

788
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: what an insane story. Do you think after killing all

789
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: of those people, that she heard about Christianity and was like,

790
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: oh really, So I'll have to do is say oh,

791
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I did that, And then I get

792
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: to go to paradise. This is great news for me.

793
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: He said, I just tell you and you forgive me.

794
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Like, oh, sometimes I have to

795
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: say a hail Mary. Oh okay, I guess so cool.

796
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: And then I can do this over and over again.

797
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: I just keep coming back. If I killed five thousand

798
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: more people, I just have to tell you, right, And

799
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: God said, okay, you're good. This is pretty good for me. Religion, everything,

800
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: and we can drink. We can drink right, okay, Well,

801
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: in fact, there's wine in the church. This is perfect

802
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: for us. You know. You can start to see the

803
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: appeal for someone like Olga. Wow. Yeah, like I need

804
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: the power of forgiveness in my life. I don't have

805
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: any for you, but I'd like some for myself. Maybe. Afterwards,

806
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: she's like, you know, I have grown a lot since

807
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: those days. I'm Christian. Now I forgive you. I try

808
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: to give you. That's one of those stories. I love that.

809
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: It's not the romance is not the story. It's the instigator,

810
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: you know. It was. It was her her husband's execution

811
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: that got her all riled up. She was pissed, and

812
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: she was pissed obviously. I mean, who knows how she

813
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: felt about him as a fifteen year old for this

814
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: sixty five year old man, but but she certainly took

815
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: it personally. It was a wrong done to her, to

816
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: her home and her country. And she said, I've got

817
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: some ideas, and I'll tell you what. You give a

818
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: teenage girl that much power and she will lay waste

819
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: to entire civilizations. Like she was only seventeen, eighteen years

820
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: old when she did all this to the dread Leans,

821
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: like she's just a kid. Yeah, And she was like,

822
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: you know what, not only am I going to kill

823
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: the ship out of all but I'm going to do

824
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: it in the most creative, fucked up ways that I

825
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: can think of, because you'll be fucking with this birch tree.

826
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: And you thought you thought that you found the most brutal,

827
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: but guess what, I'm also very creative. You know, when

828
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: you're at that age, you're just your your imagination is

829
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: really running mild. It's a really magical time should really

830
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: be discovering yourself. And I think she discovered some things

831
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: about herself. She did some very important things. Wow. Yeah,

832
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: she was just really canny and savvy, like even later

833
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: on in life, being like mmm, let me think about

834
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: how to get these priests more interested in my people

835
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: and converting my people, or like you see, you know,

836
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: like she just had. She's tricksy. She is tricksy. And

837
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: I wonder too, Like like you said, we don't know

838
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Speaker 1: if she cared particularly for Igor or not. So I

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Speaker 1: wonder if she took it as a personal insults like

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Speaker 1: if she was like y'all think really, y'all think you

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Speaker 1: could just send me a letter and I'll just come

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Speaker 1: on trip on over and marry your prince and whatever,

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Speaker 1: like you really thought that. Okay, okay, let me learn

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Speaker 1: you a little something about Kiev. I'm going to teach

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Speaker 1: you a lesson that no one will be around her,

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Speaker 1: I know, but they'll remember it that they will sing

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Speaker 1: songs of my revenge for generation. Yeah. Yeah. Also fascinating

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Speaker 1: to me. It really Now I'm not a Christian person myself,

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Speaker 1: but like we said, it really does show the power

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Speaker 1: of forgiveness because this woman brutally slaughtered countless people and

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Speaker 1: now she's a saint. She is she has the same

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Speaker 1: title as Mother Teresa. Yeah. Yeah, what a what a turn,

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Speaker 1: I know, I mean, I kind of love it, though

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Speaker 1: it's hard to root for a murderer like that. I

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Speaker 1: guess she's really but it's so diabolical, and I guess

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Speaker 1: it is kind of funny to think about them being

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Speaker 1: so arrogant, like, oh, we'll just tell her to marry

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Speaker 1: our guys and it'll be no big deal, and then

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Speaker 1: her being just turning the table so hard on them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of awesome while also being not cool. It's

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Speaker 1: just distant enough, you know, right. And imagine if she

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Speaker 1: had not changed to Christianity. I wonder if Amor would

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Speaker 1: have taken a different and the Russia would not be Christians,

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Speaker 1: Like if it would be Islamic or whatever, I don't know, Shinto,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, right, that'd be still funny. A Buddhist Russia.

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Speaker 1: What would that be like? I don't know if it'd

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Speaker 1: be funny, but it would be different. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Buddhism and Russia, and I'm not getting a

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Speaker 1: comedic vibe. I guess not. Well. I hope that this

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Speaker 1: episode gives you the determination and the fire to take

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Speaker 1: into the new year. You need to, you know, really, right,

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Speaker 1: Some wrongs really change some minds. Um try not to

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Speaker 1: burn anyone's village down, but just take the the energy

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Speaker 1: that Olga had maybe in with you to the new year.

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Speaker 1: M minus the violence, just the determination. Yeah. Or you know,

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Speaker 1: if you've done some terrible things in your past, there's

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Speaker 1: possibly a way to turn a corner and still be

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Speaker 1: cool and become a saint sender years after you die.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. That's what we learned from did and I

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Speaker 1: think it's a great, great lesson to close out the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who you could call it a lesson. Sure, there's something

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Speaker 1: I will say. Um. I heard this of this story

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Speaker 1: from a great episode of Noble Blood, which is another

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Speaker 1: great yeah Danish Wartz Wartz, Aaron Minky right, very good show.

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Speaker 1: And then my mother Janice also reached out, like a

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Speaker 1: few months ago, you should do this lady Olga, she's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So I want to say thanks, Mom. That was a

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Speaker 1: good I already had her because of that episode. I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, this lady went nuts after her husband died.

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Speaker 1: I'm still glad to get as a as a suggestion,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to listen to that Noble Blood because

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Speaker 1: Dana tells a good story. She does. I like her

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Speaker 1: a lot. She's got such a good voice. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: good writing and hilarious on Twitter. Yah. Um, so that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I hope you all enjoyed this one. Let us know

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Speaker 1: what you thought, of course, not like ending out the

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Speaker 1: year with some bloody revenge exactly. So reach out to us.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what you thought, um, tell us about your year,

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Speaker 1: tell us what you what you think about moving forward

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Speaker 1: into two, and share your stories of revenge with us.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll read them on the air and we can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see you again. Of course, you can email

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Speaker 1: us Romance at i heeart media dot com right or

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Speaker 1: we're on Twitter and Instagram. I'm at Dianamite boom and

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Speaker 1: I'm at Oh great, it's Eli and the show is

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Speaker 1: at ridic Romance. Thank you again for listening. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for spending a good chunk of this year with us.

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Speaker 1: We got many more episodes to come in the coming year,

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Speaker 1: and we will see you next week, next year, even

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Speaker 1: well next year next year. All right, I'll have a

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Speaker 1: good one bye, so long, friends, it's time to go.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so listening to our show. Tell your friends name

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Speaker 1: was Uncle Sandez. To listen to our show ridiculous, Well,

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