1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Heuret for this Wednesday, the eighth 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: of March in London. Coming up today March Madness, five 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: weeks after the Fed slowed the pace of hikes, Powell 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: hints at a re acceleration the benefits of breaking the 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: glass ceiling, the seven trillion dollar potential dividend from closing 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: the gender gap in leadership, giving business a break. Hunt 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: considers tax and centers to spury UK investment, Go green 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: or go home. Google's brain melts and hr in two 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty characters or less, those of the stories 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: we're looking at in today's papers. I'm James Walcock. Plus, 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: it turns out money does buy you happiness, and you'll 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: need to earn half a million dollars a year before 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: you each a platter. That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: Daybreak Europe, the Business news you need to start your 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: day in just one fifteen minute podcast on Apple, Spotify, 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app and everywhere you get your podcasts. 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Stephen Carroll and I'm Caroline Heitke. Here 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: all the stories that we're following today, Higher, faster, longer. 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: That's the message from Jerome Powell speaking to lawmakers on 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. The Federal Reserve chair was unexpectedly hawkish in 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: his outlook. The latest economic data have come in stronger 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: than expected, which suggests that the ultimate level of interest 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: rates is likely to be higher and previously anticipated. If 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: the totality of the data were to indicate that faster 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: tightening is warranted, we'd be prepared to increase the pace 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: of rate hikes. Pale's comments come after the Fed opted 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: to slow the pace of rate hikes last month with 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: a quarter point increase. Reacting to the news, traders increased 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: bets on a half point hike at the next FOMC meeting. 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Powell will appear in Congress again later today now. Billionaire 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: investor Ken Griffin responded two Powell's comments, saying that the 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: setup for a US WITH session is now unfolding. Speaking 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg, the founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities, so 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: had this advice for the head of the Federal Reserve. 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: If I could tell one thing to the chairman, I 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: would tell him to say last I would just be 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: writing a message. We're going to put the inflations you 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: need back in the bottle. We're going to do what 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: it takes to make that happen, and we're going to 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: raise rates consistently until we see very clear evidence that 41 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: we put this behind us. Because every time they take 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: the foot off the break where the market perceives are 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: taking the foot off the break and the job's not done, 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: they make their work even harder. Griffin also told Bloomberg's 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: Philippe Markets that controlling inflation with rate hikes is like 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: having quote surgery with a dull knife. He added that 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Americans had been stung by traumatic levels of inflation last year. 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Closing the gender pay gap and increasing the number of 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: women in the labor force could raise global economic activity 50 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: by as much as seven trillion dollars, according to research 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: from Moody's Analytics. Their study, published on International Women's Day, 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: highlights how limited and patchy progress has been an elevating 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: women in the workplace over the past decade. Achieving gender 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: equality is the goal at the heart of the UN's 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Sustainable Development Goals that member states agreed to achieve by 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: twenty thirty. Now, President Xijingping has unveiled a sweeping overhaul 57 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: of China's bureaucracy. The plan includes more oversight of China's 58 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: financial system and restructuring the Ministry of Science and Technology. 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: Blum Bog's chief North Asia correspondence Stephen Engel, explains why 60 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Beijing is making the changes now. There's lots of rhetoric, 61 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: lots of blaming target at the United States, but this 62 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: is a new China. They realize there is a bifurcation 63 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: happening here and they need to be prepared for the 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: next century, if you will, of self reliance. Stephen Angele 65 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: reports that the revamp comes as the United States ramps 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: up measures to prevent China from obtaining advanced technology. Here 67 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: in the UK, the Chancellor Jeremy Hunt is considering plans 68 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: to help capital investment in order to boost economic growth 69 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: in Britain, sources Bloomberg. The Chancellor is considering plans to 70 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: replace super deductions with extra tax relief on investments, bending 71 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's un Parts reports. It was one of us she 72 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: Slack's flagship policies as chancellor, but his investments super deductions 73 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: are set to expire at the end of this month. 74 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: It's a double blow for business, coming on the same 75 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: day that corporation tax is set to jump from nineteen 76 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: to twenty five percent. Bloomberg has learned that Hunt is 77 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: reviewing options to replace the business tax relief in his 78 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: budget next Wednesday. The Chancellor's challenge is to find a 79 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: way to boost Britain's woeful business investments with little slack 80 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: in the public finances in London, Immune Partsinbog day Break 81 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: Europe and just finally to some corporate news this morning, 82 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: Elon Musk says that Twitter may break even on a 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: cash flow basis in the second quarter of this year, 84 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: and has they shot it even going positive? That story 85 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: now from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellets, speaking at On Morgan's Stanley 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: conference in San Francis School, Musk the company has been 87 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: working on making it's advertising more relevant. Musk, who bought 88 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: Twitter last year for forty four billion dollars, emphasize that 89 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: Twitter's debt burden after the deal is quite high and 90 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: the cost of servicing the debt is around one and 91 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: a half billion dollars annually, about equivalent to its current 92 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: cash burn rate. Musk said, with all the attention Twitter gets, 93 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: its quote startling how little money it makes in New York. 94 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, and we'll have more on 95 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Twitter in today's paper review. Well, those 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: are our top stories this morning, Carolina is a headline 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: caught my eye in the chail this morning. It turns 98 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: out that money does buy happiness, at least up to 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: half a million dollars. Did you have to tell me 100 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: or listeners that I don't think so? But no, Look, 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: in all seriousness, this is a new study, a survey 102 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: of more than thirty three thousand people living in the 103 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: US that's been published, and basically it contradicts a now 104 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: really famous paper in twenty ten by the economists Angust 105 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: Deton and psychologists and others where they said that if 106 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: you get to a certain income level, then your happiness platters. 107 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: It was like sixty seventy thousand pounds something like that. 108 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Apparently this has now been debunked. It's not true. Was 109 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: there such inflation though? It's just like the sixty or 110 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars sort of half a mill exactly. Time 111 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: certainly has moved on. But look, I mean, it's interesting 112 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: to kind of see this idea. Obviously, there's the income 113 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: level at which you know you're worried about much more 114 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: basic paints than you know, be able to pay your bills. 115 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: But certainly the point over that to see where people 116 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: money does seem to increase people's steadily incrementally. It does 117 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: apparently make you feel better, more contented. Anyway, there are 118 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: news you can use this morning, absolutely right better. Using 119 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: the skills in time of women though in OECD countries 120 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: can raise global economic activity by approximately seven percent. That 121 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: was the bit of news that we brought to you earlier, 122 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: according to Moody's analytics, and there later research on of 123 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: course International Women's Day. But the stagnant gender pay gap 124 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: and the lack of women getting inter management roles in 125 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: the past decade does mean that i w D Day 126 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: feels perhaps are less enthusiastic than it has done in 127 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: the past. Joining us now to discuss is Amanda Pullinger, 128 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: who is the chief executive of a hundred Women in Finance. 129 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: Good morning, Amanda, Thank you so much for joining us, 130 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: bright and early in the studio, Very bright and early 131 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: to be here. Ye good to see you. The gender 132 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: pay gap, the lack of women in leadership, the damage 133 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: of the pandemic years to women's careers. I'm interested to 134 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: understand how your members, and there are many more than 135 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: a hundred of them. How your members are now thinking 136 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: about their careers. So I'm the CEO of a global association. 137 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: We are now in thirty two locations across five continents, 138 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: so I do have a kind of global perspective on this, 139 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: and surprisingly, maybe not surprisingly, a lot of the issues 140 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: are the same around the world. There are some interesting differences, 141 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: but by and large, you know, the same challenges exist 142 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: that have very often existed. But I think what we're 143 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: really focused on is how do how do we create progress? 144 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: Right There's been a lot of talk about the lack 145 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: of and certainly if we look at numbers like what 146 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: percentage of the world's fund managers are women, it's about 147 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: ten percent to Cross Alternatives and long only mutual. That 148 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: hasn't changed for twenty thirty years. So we're really focused 149 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: on saying what can we do to change that? And 150 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: the first thing that I think we need to do 151 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: is to focus on those women who are in those roles. 152 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: Make those women visible, because if we're going to try 153 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: and to change the demographics of our industry, we have 154 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: to change the perception of what an expert looks like. 155 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, right now, many people perceive the investment role 156 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: in particular as being a male role. So let's change 157 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: that perception so that we can not only change the 158 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: perception of the general public, but also the next generation 159 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: of women coming into those roles. So concretely, how do 160 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: we do that? I mean, if you know your organizations 161 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: go as is, thirty percent of senior investment professionals to 162 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: be women and thirty percent of executive committee members to 163 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: be women by twenty forty. Is that not ambitious enough? 164 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Should we be looking for something higher than that? Really 165 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: interesting and there's been a lot of debate, but should 166 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: it be fifty percent? I want to set a goal 167 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: that's realistic, and the reality is getting from ten percent 168 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: to thirty percent even in twenty years, takes all sorts 169 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: of different initiatives, right. It takes bringing in the next generation, 170 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: inspiring the next generation of women to look at investing 171 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: in a positive way. It takes the industry making very 172 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: concrete decisions. It takes women saying yes to being on 173 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: your show, for example, and being out there. So I 174 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: think it's I think thirty percent is very doable by 175 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: twenty forty. Would I like it to be quicker? Yeah, 176 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: but I think by setting a longer term goal and 177 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: starting now being deliberate, I do believe it's possible. Last 178 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: night we had our London Gala and we gave awards 179 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: to firms in the industry who are making progress. And 180 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: what's exciting is if you're deliberate, if DI initiatives are 181 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: driven from the top, not given to ADI department, if 182 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: those firms are putting in place initiatives internal and external, 183 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: we are seeing progress. Aberdeen won the award and they 184 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: are getting close to that thirty percent level both executive 185 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: committee and in terms of their senior investment professionals. But 186 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: look on international Women's there. I think partly why there 187 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: does seem to be concern is that actually, you know, 188 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: the goal of thirty percent that's been around for a decade, 189 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: actually in gestation for like twenty years, So there is 190 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,359 Speaker 1: deep disappointment and skepticism around whether these goals are achievable, 191 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: especially when there are not actual targets. So I kind 192 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: of want to understand whether you think that there needs 193 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: to be a more muscular approach, I mean more than 194 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: just visibility in persuasion actual targets. And again, like the 195 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: Moody's research goes back to you have to have policies 196 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: of flexible working, of affordable childcare, of paid maternity paternity 197 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: leave to drive change. Do you think there need to 198 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: be more goals? So, look, I think there are three 199 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: things in play. I think there are social norms around 200 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: the world that are still playing into whether or not 201 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: highly educated women who have a family should be working 202 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, you know, amongst our members, particularly 203 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: places like Germany and Switzerland, it is still really tough 204 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: to be a working mother in those societies. You contrast 205 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: that to somewhere like Nigeria, where forty percent of the 206 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: CEOs in our industry are women and forty center the 207 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: chairs of boards or women, where social norms, believe it 208 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: or not are slightly different. So there's a social norm 209 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: element of this. There's also the culture within a firm. 210 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: But what I would say is we can't necessarily as 211 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: women control those things. What we can do, and what 212 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: we're doing as an organization is helping women find others 213 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: who are like them, really working together to support each other. 214 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: You know, visibility changes people's perception. And when I talk 215 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: to female fund managers, that's my big message is don't 216 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: think that just by sitting there, working hard and performing, 217 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: someone's going to notice you. Right, That's not how you 218 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: build your business. You have to be out there. But 219 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a simple solution. I'm saying, let's 220 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: try a lot of different things and let's, you know, 221 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: let's then learn from those initiatives and double down on 222 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: those that work. Are you optimistic? I am optimistic, and 223 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic because I've seen the applications that are coming 224 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: in from firms who are truly moving the needle, who 225 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: are saying, yes, this is something that's going to come 226 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: from the top, this is long term, this is not 227 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: a fad. We are focused on these issues and there's 228 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: some really innovative initiatives coming out which we hope to 229 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: publish for the industry so that those firms, many firms 230 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: are struggling out there, let's help them with the solutions, 231 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: and then there isn't an excuse if we provide you 232 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: with a bunch of solutions, there's no excuse to say 233 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: we can't do this. Amanda, lovely to have you in 234 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: the studio with us on International Women's Day, really great 235 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: to hear your views. Visibility. Well, I'm glad you mentioned 236 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: that Amandipudenter, CEO of one hundred women in finance, joining 237 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: us here live on Blue Black Radio. Up next, Go Greener, 238 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Go home, Google's brain melt and hr in two hundred 239 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: and eighty characters or fewer. Now the paper review on 240 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Blue Bird day Break Europe. The news you need to 241 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: know from today's papers. James Wilcocket is with us for 242 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: more on those stories. I'm slightly worried if I've just 243 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: made a grammatical area. There is the two hundred and 244 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: eighty characters are less two dating characters are fewer. Anyway, 245 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: let's talk about the pots papers are leading on this morning. 246 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: A couple of the meeting on the migration bill, where 247 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: you see an ex Press conference promising to tackle migration. James, 248 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: let's start with the times they are looking at. A 249 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: warning from the Institute of Directors this morning. I mean 250 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: on grammar. Stephen. I always say Stephen is always right 251 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: as my policy, but no, the idea of it is. 252 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: But in this case the idea of conductors. A survey 253 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: of eight hundred and sixty leading business people and eight 254 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: out of ten supported subsidies to combat climate change and 255 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: compete with the EU and the US. I mean, we 256 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: talked about shelseyo Wealth for one on Monday on our 257 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: program here is saying a similar thing. And it's something 258 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg have been reporting for quite some time. This large 259 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty nine million billion dollar boost making 260 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: some energy companies consider moving to the is something Todd 261 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: Gillespie and Bloomberg has been reporting on EDP, one of 262 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: Europe's largest renewable energy companies, implying to build more wind 263 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: turbines in America. And the big question is where does 264 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: the UK fit into these sort of big amounts of 265 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: money being spent. Those who speak to business tell me 266 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: one big fear is that the UK's and stasis right 267 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: now as it waits for the next election. And we 268 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: have that scoop overnight we mentioned in the bulletin about 269 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: business relief. Now, beyond taxes encouraging investment, does the UK 270 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: government have the capacity to spend? And that is what 271 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: the iod are really concerned about this morning. Yeah, okay, 272 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: I think that's very interesting. Yeah, the warning from businesses 273 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: as we do tick down to budget day on the 274 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: fifteenth of March, James, there's a story in The Independent 275 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: about Elon Musk firing someone. Why is this new? I mean, 276 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: I can see why you'd be skeptical, Caroline. We have 277 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: been covering this story about him taking over Twitter for 278 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: a very long time now, and he's overseen firing of 279 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: roughly two thirds of Twitter's seven thousand fired employees since 280 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: he took over. And what makes this interesting as and 281 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: also emblematic of how he has completely shaken up this 282 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: company is halle Thor left soon. A senior director who's 283 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: designed firm Una was brought by Twitter in twenty twenty one, 284 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: tweeted Elone the other day saying, am I fired? It's 285 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: been nine days since I've been locked out. HR have 286 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: not been in touch. Do I still have a job? 287 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: Musk then publicly discussed his job and also his disability 288 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: with a third party on Twitter. Now that is potentially 289 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: a breach of the Americans with Disabilities Act, which mandates 290 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: that US employees should not publicly be disclosing their employees 291 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: disability status. Then add to that that Hallie is the 292 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: former Iceland Person of the Year twenty twenty two. The 293 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: reason being is when Twitter bought his design firm because 294 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: of his disability, he asked for it to be paid 295 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: in wages, and he is one of Iceland's top ten taxpayers. 296 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: He paid forty six percent of his salary tax and 297 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: you can only imagine what but that salary is because 298 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: the buyout was in salaries. So this is where this 299 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: gets money to be interesting for Leon Musk. By terminating 300 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: his contract and confirming and is terminated, there is a 301 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: question of the rest of the salary involved in the 302 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: buyout that Musk may have to pay. So this is 303 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: financially a big problem for Musk. It looks potentially difficult 304 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: from an HR perspective, and it all comes what also 305 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: just look looks terrible in so many ways, doesn't it. 306 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: And it all comes while Twitter is recovering from its 307 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: second outage in less than a week, and so it 308 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: is all adding up to a very difficult picture for 309 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: the CEO. And I will say Musk did apologize on Twitter, 310 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: which is also a rare one for him who's known 311 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: for sort of often doubling down on quite controversial Stanfords. Okay, James, 312 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: let's turn next to a story from Dave Jones, a 313 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: deep dive on here Microsoft and chat GPT beats Google 314 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: on the AI race, and briefly, Stephen this is simple. 315 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: People are talking about bink. The fact that people are 316 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: talking about bing again says it all. And what has 317 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: happened here is Microsoft have with chat GPT changed the game. 318 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean we have noticed it. We did a Bloomberg 319 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: interview with Citizel's Ken Griffin just the other day, who 320 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: is in process for negotiating enterprise as wide license to 321 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: use open as chat GPT tool. So what dal Jones 322 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: have done, I've done a deep dive and found out 323 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: that Google actually had similar kinds of tools in the 324 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: works as early as two years ago, but they got 325 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: held up in development. And so it's interesting look at 326 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: how potentially this race was one that Google lost rather 327 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: than Microsoft one. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. You're a 328 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: morning brief on the stories making news from London to 329 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: Wall Streets and beyond. Look for us on your podcast 330 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: speed every morning on Apples, Spotify and anywhere else you 331 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 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