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Speaker 2: So you flew the other day, Katie, and you said
Speaker 2: you had some complaints we were going to bring up
Speaker 2: on the podcast. We haven't yet. What was your is
Speaker 2: there a short version of this, or do you need
Speaker 2: the whole podcast for that?
Speaker 6: I don't need the whole podcast, but it's a it's
Speaker 6: a little bit of a longer story.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 6: Well, if you want it now, I can give it
Speaker 6: to you now. I was flying to visit my parents
Speaker 6: in Boise. So I flew out of Sacramento and was
Speaker 6: headed to Boise, where dense fog is common. We were
Speaker 6: fifty feet off the ground and all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: I just feel the plane start to go right back up.
Speaker 6: So we were about to land, and then we just
Speaker 6: start going right back up. Mind you, the entire time
Speaker 6: this is happening, the woman sitting next to me is
Speaker 6: hammer drunk, oh boy, hammer and.
Speaker 7: Talking like this, leaning over my lap.
Speaker 6: She put her drink on my tray table. I was ready,
Speaker 6: it was, it was. It was above and beyond and.
Speaker 3: Happy drunk, chatty drunk.
Speaker 6: Can't be drunk, chatty drunk, singing at the top of
Speaker 6: her lungs with her headphones in.
Speaker 3: Drunk wow wow.
Speaker 6: When the when the flight attendant came by to take
Speaker 6: all the trash, you know, before they land, she wouldn't
Speaker 6: give him her cocktail.
Speaker 3: Cause she wasn't done yet right, and so was drink
Speaker 3: or drink of choice?
Speaker 6: It was it was some I don't know it was
Speaker 6: hard liquor, but it was not something I was fast.
Speaker 7: Eddie is that'sh.
Speaker 3: That's a deep Bettye vodka?
Speaker 6: Maybe yeah, I think it was Eddie vodka something like that.
Speaker 6: So I get to enjoy more time with this woman
Speaker 6: because we went back up into the sky and the
Speaker 6: flight attendant comes on over and says, we saw some
Speaker 6: unexpected fog. We're gonna have to go refuel in Eugene, Oregon. Witches, yeah,
Speaker 6: it's forty five minutes to an hour in the opposite
Speaker 6: direction of where I'm trying to get.
Speaker 7: So we adventure that way.
Speaker 6: No more beverages, no water, no snacks, no alcohol because
Speaker 6: it was all gone.
Speaker 3: Apparently you could.
Speaker 2: Have landed where you were a celebrity because we're on
Speaker 2: kug y n Oh.
Speaker 6: We did land and we sat there for an hour
Speaker 6: and any.
Speaker 2: Letters one too many letters, kun k there you go.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we sat there for about an hour and
Speaker 6: a half they quote unquote.
Speaker 2: Refuel and a half, yeah, because they had to wait.
Speaker 3: For the fuel person to get there.
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, this woman, it's like the alcohol was just really
Speaker 6: starting to seep into our system because it was getting
Speaker 6: worse and worse.
Speaker 4: You know, I got to rewind just briefly, so you
Speaker 4: were you were within fifty feet of land. That sucks,
Speaker 4: but but there wasn't enough fuel to circle a couple
Speaker 4: of times.
Speaker 6: Or see, I'm calling bull s on this one because
Speaker 6: when we landed in Eugene.
Speaker 2: So you think the pilot's got a side piece in Oregon,
Speaker 2: is what you're thinking.
Speaker 6: I think that the pilot who just so happened to
Speaker 6: be a she could not land the plane in the
Speaker 6: fog and freaked out, what I think, because they were
Speaker 6: there were a lot of apologies going on as she
Speaker 6: was leaving the plane, and then a new pilot came on.
Speaker 2: She had a d appointment in Eugene. As I try
Speaker 2: heard that term for the first time the other day.
Speaker 7: She she had a.
Speaker 3: What de appointment?
Speaker 2: I'm using abbreviation, but I heard somebody use that term
Speaker 2: in casual conversation like that's a thing. Maybe it's a
Speaker 2: thing with the young people.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, she was tend to get some
Speaker 3: loving from a fella.
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 3: Oh lord?
Speaker 7: Yeah, she was gonna go get the d.
Speaker 4: Close your eyes and set this jumbo down. All right,
Speaker 4: we're close enough, we appear to be close to Boise.
Speaker 4: Let's this is what you gotta say. You gotta say.
Speaker 4: We're gonna give you the option. We'll be fifty feet
Speaker 4: off the ground if you want to roll out the
Speaker 4: door and just take your chances.
Speaker 3: Otherwise we're going to Eugene.
Speaker 2: So I might I want to jump out and just
Speaker 2: don't roll for a while. I'll be okay, and then
Speaker 2: I'll get up my feet dous myself off.
Speaker 6: When we were sitting there, I've never come so close
Speaker 6: to pulling the emergency hatch and just going down that slide,
Speaker 6: I was, I.
Speaker 3: Was over it.
Speaker 2: Did they keep you on the plane the whole time? Yep,
Speaker 2: that's the part that I understand. And Tim Sanders and
Speaker 2: I talked about airlines last time he was on his
Speaker 2: whole thing was they're the safest they've ever been. And
Speaker 2: I'm my argument is make them this much less safe,
Speaker 2: since I'm not the least bit worried about them crashing.
Speaker 2: If it's going to improve the whole airline thing and
Speaker 2: the current system they've got where they don't get dinged
Speaker 2: for uh late takeoffs or landings or this sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: If they keep you on the plane is a bad system.
Speaker 2: Let me off the freaking plaine. I understand things happen sometime,
Speaker 2: but let me off the damn plane. The keeping you
Speaker 2: on the plane is torture.
Speaker 7: M Yeah.
Speaker 6: And after the fiasco, we were sitting on the on
Speaker 6: the tarmac waiting to take off again. They get us refueled.
Speaker 6: We get in the air and the drunk woman she
Speaker 6: had fallen asleep for a little bit, so I thought
Speaker 6: we were safe.
Speaker 2: She woke back up as a as a lifelong drunk,
Speaker 2: that is the worst. Once you've yeah, yeah, you had
Speaker 2: your you had your your buzz going. You'd peaked it
Speaker 2: just for landing, and then you're gonna keep it going
Speaker 2: where and you get home or whatever, and it's now
Speaker 2: it's now. Now you're past the side where it's just
Speaker 2: you feel sick and your head hurts, and oh that's
Speaker 2: the worst.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: See, I thought that it was over, but she woke
Speaker 7: up peaked.
Speaker 3: She was still right all the way in it.
Speaker 6: She asked me if we were in Boise about three
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty six times, and then she put her
Speaker 6: headphones back in and proceeeded to wrap and drop thirteen
Speaker 6: n bombs.
Speaker 3: Wow, yoh?
Speaker 6: Was this a person a POC or a cool Nope?
Speaker 6: She was just a white brunette lady. How old boy,
Speaker 6: that's bold mid forties maybe. And she had you know,
Speaker 6: the claw nails and she was clicking them.
Speaker 3: The whole time. I uld never do that again. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was often just you doing that there. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So we landed, and I promised everyone that I love
Speaker 6: that I'm taking horseback whenever I travel ever.
Speaker 2: Whatever it takes, all those things that you mentioned about her,
Speaker 2: I think the clicking the nails is the one that
Speaker 2: would have driven me to she was.
Speaker 7: She was just everything awful.
Speaker 2: Trying to look on an emergency door so I can
Speaker 2: be arrested by the TSA just to get away from her. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I find the wrapping along and dropping in bombs to
Speaker 4: be quite extraordinary.
Speaker 3: What were the other passengers doing? The guy in front
Speaker 3: of us was black. I was like, oh, wow, is
Speaker 3: this gonna be Wow? Did he ever turn around like yo,
Speaker 3: what's the deal here?
Speaker 6: He turned around and looked at her like each time
Speaker 6: that it happened, but didn't say anything.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: That's because he was probably a reasonable song said sunk idiot.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I sware.
Speaker 6: I thought she was going to get us deep planed
Speaker 6: and Eugene, though, you know, they one person acts up
Speaker 6: and then they get everybody off the plane and it
Speaker 6: turns into all I thought that was coming to well.
Speaker 2: The air waitresses flying planes as they should know. I
Speaker 2: was going to say to the pilots, not know how
Speaker 2: miserable it is to be in a plane for an
Speaker 2: hour and a half when you could be walking around
Speaker 2: in an airport. I've done it for longer than I
Speaker 2: did it for three hours once at Burbank. It's just
Speaker 2: it's just horrible.
Speaker 3: Sitting in everybody jammed in the summer.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no fresh air in the
Speaker 2: line for the bathroom gets long, and the bathroom gets
Speaker 2: filled up and they won't they don't send the cart
Speaker 2: out usually.
Speaker 6: It's just it's horrible, full flight. Baby's crying the whole nine.
Speaker 6: So yeah, all Oj said was ain't nobody leaving this room?
Speaker 6: And they got him for kidnapping.
Speaker 4: To keep you on a damn airplane for hours and
Speaker 4: say if you get off, we're gonna arrest you.
Speaker 2: Come on and again, Yeah, it's got it's got to
Speaker 2: do with stupid regulations. And rules that I just wish
Speaker 2: they would change so it didn't.
Speaker 3: Have to happen. I have the wrong incentives and distances.
Speaker 4: I understand the logistics of completely unloading the plane, then
Speaker 4: loading you again, trying to find everybody and make sure
Speaker 4: everybody is who they don't. You got to run the
Speaker 4: boarding passes again and all that stuff. I get it,
Speaker 4: But you got to figure it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know Pete boot edge
Speaker 2: Edge is working on that right now. And I don't
Speaker 2: know how I feel about that because it's in fear.
Speaker 2: Are you a free market where he could compete and
Speaker 2: but it doesn't seem to be barrier of entry? Is
Speaker 2: too expensive for for somebody to get in?
Speaker 8: Is that?
Speaker 2: I mean at some point you're not a free market
Speaker 2: because of that, aren't you?
Speaker 3: Boot Edge Edge edge Edge?
Speaker 4: They say, will he vanish from the national political landscape
Speaker 4: or is he.
Speaker 2: One of the rock stars to be nominee in twenty
Speaker 2: eight on what basis?
Speaker 3: He's a good because he's known and he's a pleasant
Speaker 3: looking fella. He's a he's a good talker, he's good
Speaker 3: in an interview and that sort of thing. Our politics
Speaker 3: is so stupid. Well, I have no doubt about that.
Speaker 7: Boot edge edge right edge edge.
Speaker 3: Katie, was this plain full? You could have moved?
Speaker 7: It was a one hundred percent full flight.
Speaker 2: Why don't almost every flight I'm on is very rarely.
Speaker 3: I'm not on a.
Speaker 2: Flight that's not one hundred percent full anymore? Why don't
Speaker 2: more people drinkers bring on the little bottles? I know
Speaker 2: they make the announce every time that you're not allowed
Speaker 2: to do that, But how they're gonna catch me?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Or a pepsi? I wait one minute for the person
Speaker 2: to walk, go in, I pour my pepsi? Does that
Speaker 2: happen a lot among drinkers? I don't drink, so I
Speaker 2: don't know, be a lot cheaper.
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: You can't get liquid through security, well, you little.
Speaker 2: You'd have to buy it once you're inside the Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you can buy it when you're inside the whatever
Speaker 2: you call it past security right there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the terminal. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just of crimes that I don't have a moral problem with.
Speaker 2: That'd be one of them. If my passenger gets out
Speaker 2: a little bottle and pours it in their coke to
Speaker 2: save themselves eleven dollars on their drink.
Speaker 4: I don't No, I don't care as long as they
Speaker 4: don't like start singing along and rapping and.
Speaker 3: Clicking your nails. Oh oh, that's so awful. Not awful.
Speaker 7: Try that, Try that for about five hours.
Speaker 8: Guys, Armstrong and Getty shot.
Speaker 3: We're living in a skinny Oprah world again.
Speaker 2: We've been living in Oprah's world for many decades now,
Speaker 2: and sometimes it's fat Oprah world and sometimes it's skinny
Speaker 2: Oprah world.
Speaker 3: And she's skinny again.
Speaker 2: You know how old Oprah is? Off the top of
Speaker 2: your head. How old's Oprah Winfrey sixty? She's seventy years old.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. But anyway, she had some special
Speaker 2: last night about weight loss. She quit weight Watchers last week.
Speaker 2: She's been a weight Watchers on the board and spokesman
Speaker 2: for decades, and she quit because she wanted to do
Speaker 2: this special that aired last night and be able to
Speaker 2: talk openly about anything weight related and not have a
Speaker 2: conflict to interest with the company she works for. Because
Speaker 2: she's now on some of those drugs. She won't say
Speaker 2: if it's those Zembaker, Wagovia or which one, but she's
Speaker 2: on one of them to lose her weight.
Speaker 3: And what was the other thing I was gonna mention
Speaker 3: weight weight loss. She's skinny again, and she's seventy years old,
Speaker 3: and she oh, I thought this was kind of funny.
Speaker 2: She was on Jimmy Kimmel the other night and he asked,
Speaker 2: did you cryed when you told them you were leaving Wetwatchers?
Speaker 3: She said no, but they almost did.
Speaker 2: I'll bet they did, losing their most important, biggest spokesperson. Anyway,
Speaker 2: here's a little oprah from her special last night.
Speaker 9: I guess I took on the shame that the world
Speaker 9: gave to me for twenty five years. Making fun of
Speaker 9: my weight was National Sport nineteen ninety. I saw myself
Speaker 9: on the cover of TV guides Best and Worst Dressless,
Speaker 9: and I remember thinking, oh, look, there I am on
Speaker 9: the cover.
Speaker 3: Mister Blackwell, the taste maker of.
Speaker 9: The time, called me bumpy, lumpy and downright dumpy. I
Speaker 9: was ridiculed on every late night talk show for twenty
Speaker 9: five years and tabloid covers for twenty five years. So
Speaker 9: in an effort to combat all the shame, I starved
Speaker 9: myself for nearly five months and then wheeled out that
Speaker 9: wagon a fat and after losing sixty seven pounds on
Speaker 9: liquid diet, the net today I started to gain it back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what she's talking about, is the whole yo
Speaker 2: yo thing, or you lose it and then you gain back,
Speaker 2: often more than you lost. And how that's common for people.
Speaker 2: I don't wonder her point is there, though.
Speaker 8: So.
Speaker 2: People ridiculed you for being fat, and so you're not
Speaker 2: going with the I felt the shame, So you're not
Speaker 2: going with this. So I'm just accepting who I am.
Speaker 2: You're going with the I tried a different drug since
Speaker 2: weight Watchers didn't work anymore.
Speaker 3: Now I'm skinnykin and happy.
Speaker 2: So I'm not exactly sure how that fits in with
Speaker 2: what you just said.
Speaker 4: Well, her overall point is that obesity is a medical condition.
Speaker 4: We need to remove the shame from it and treat
Speaker 4: it as a medical condition.
Speaker 2: I wonder if she's about to one of these companies
Speaker 2: is about to announce her as the spokesperson like she
Speaker 2: did weight Watchers forever. I mean, she's a hell a
Speaker 2: smart business woman. She realizes. I mean, weight Watchers was
Speaker 2: the thing that and slim fast back in the day,
Speaker 2: But the thing now is Ozimpia and the GOVA or
Speaker 2: whatever the name of those things are close enough. That's
Speaker 2: the hot thing. Now she might she might immediately be
Speaker 2: uh the face of that or the butt of that,
Speaker 2: if you will, I will not.
Speaker 4: I completely believe that she her thing is business, business success,
Speaker 4: that that's what animates her. I can't imagine if I
Speaker 4: had her money giving a single moment's thought to cutting
Speaker 4: another deal for anything. But that's obviously who she is,
Speaker 4: so I guess that's possible.
Speaker 3: I also think she has a conscience.
Speaker 4: I think she's brilliant, But I also think she cares
Speaker 4: about certain issues, and I think she wants to be
Speaker 4: a crusader for Like I said, this is a medical issue,
Speaker 4: not a shamed thing.
Speaker 3: Let's treat it as such.
Speaker 4: I don't know, is it.
Speaker 3: Do people feel ashamed? I mean, like I I, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't if I feel ashamed. I mean, it's maddening
Speaker 2: the lack of self control and seeing the result on
Speaker 2: the scale.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I feel ashamed about it.
Speaker 4: But people embarrassment about being seriously overweight, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Some.
Speaker 2: It's depressing that the fact you get that whole set
Speaker 2: point and thing that we've discussed before.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is going to be a new
Speaker 2: chapter in the whole weight thing nationwide, everybody's gonna guarantee it.
Speaker 2: You think it's Do you think we're into a new era?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think they are still well.
Speaker 4: I know they're still doing the math, and doctors and
Speaker 4: epidemiologists and physicists and truck drivers whatever are all putting
Speaker 4: their heads together and try to figure out, Okay, if
Speaker 4: we have these people on these drugs, which are quite
Speaker 4: expensive now but that'll probably come down, how much does
Speaker 4: that save going forward in diabetes care, heart disease care,
Speaker 4: heart attacks and strokes, joint wearing out joints. I've had
Speaker 4: a couple of joints where out of this arthritis, not weight,
Speaker 4: but it's expensive. So yeah, I think I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's going to change a little or a lot,
Speaker 4: but it'll definitely change the way weight is dealt with now.
Speaker 2: I wonder if like half of us will be on
Speaker 2: one of those drugs in five years, certainly could be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And if only more could be done preventing kids from
Speaker 4: becoming obese, Yeah, that's another challenge.
Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty show.
Speaker 4: There was a great editorial in the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 4: by a bloke by the name of Brad McDowell who
Speaker 4: said DEI got me sacked from my nursing job. It
Speaker 4: didn't matter that my critical Facebook posts made no reference
Speaker 4: to the hospital I worked. And he says, it's fine
Speaker 4: to oppose DEI as long as you keep it to yourself.
Speaker 4: The moment you speak out, you have a target on
Speaker 4: your back. He made the mistake of questioning DEI on
Speaker 4: his personal social media account again that had no indication
Speaker 4: of employment whatsoever. The hospital where I worked fired me
Speaker 4: within days. Now, this guy was not just a nurse.
Speaker 4: He's been in the profession for a very long time.
Speaker 4: He's a nursing supervisor. He was a big part of
Speaker 4: the whole nursing department at the Meritis Medical Center in Hagerstown, Maryland.
Speaker 4: Like many states, Maryland has been foisting DEI courses on
Speaker 4: medical pros for several years. Since twenty twenty two, it's
Speaker 4: required that all healthcare professionals take implicit bias training, which
Speaker 4: of course is Neo Marxist training in critical race theory,
Speaker 4: and they go in. He goes into the history of
Speaker 4: it a little bit. But I took the first session
Speaker 4: of the course in July twenty three.
Speaker 3: This is going to sound familiar to a lot of you.
Speaker 4: I was bombarded with evidence free claims that implicit bias
Speaker 4: has caused a crisis of maternal mortality in black women.
Speaker 4: The course ignored the complex actors that contribute to higher
Speaker 4: black maternal mortality, including comorbidities, while defining any death from
Speaker 4: any cause after a year of giving birth as maternal
Speaker 4: mortality a logical stretch at best. Overall, the course implied
Speaker 4: that white nurses like me are killing Black mothers. I
Speaker 4: was supposed to internalize this message and somehow apply it
Speaker 4: to the management of my team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even if you bought it, what were you supposed
Speaker 3: to do?
Speaker 4: Then? In January, Meritis sent me materials for another DEI
Speaker 4: course for hospital leaders. The material asserted, among other things,
Speaker 4: that the US is quote built on an ideology of
Speaker 4: white supremacy that justifies policies, practices, and structures which results
Speaker 4: in social arrangements of subordination from color through power and
Speaker 4: white privilege.
Speaker 2: Man, I gotta tell you, I wouldn't walk away from
Speaker 2: my job over this, but it would be pretty hard
Speaker 2: to sit down and have to sign off on the
Speaker 2: United States is built on white supremacy f you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the fraudulent racist clap trap fraud garbage of Ebram
Speaker 4: x Kendy in the whole critical race theory.
Speaker 3: Folks.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's unbelievable that this is actually occurring, where you
Speaker 2: have to sit there and listen to somebody tell you
Speaker 2: the United States has built in white supremacy. You have
Speaker 2: to swallow that to keep your job. That's it, and
Speaker 2: you have to repeat it to me. You have to
Speaker 2: admit it to keep your job.
Speaker 3: I don't think I could say it out loud.
Speaker 4: Get on your knees. This is a struggle session. Repeat
Speaker 4: the Communist manifesto or you'll be beaten. Anyway, so this
Speaker 4: guy says, I quickly decided I did. I wouldn't spread
Speaker 4: these hateful messages to the nurses under my supervision.
Speaker 3: I did not attend the course and wasn't punished for it.
Speaker 4: Weeks later received an email instructing me to a register
Speaker 4: for an in person in implicit biot. He declined to
Speaker 4: do so again, but the mounting politicization of the workforce
Speaker 4: workplace frustrated me. So on September seventh, here you go,
Speaker 4: this is the fireable offense. I posted what I thought
Speaker 4: was an innocuous message to my Facebook page quote. No
Speaker 4: employer has the right to invade the unconscious spaces of
Speaker 4: its employees' minds in an attempt to reprogram into thinking
Speaker 4: certain ways. If your employer signs you up for unconscious
Speaker 4: bias aka implicit bias training, then they are doing exactly that.
Speaker 4: His page doesn't link him Emeritus. He didn't mention the
Speaker 4: hospital by name, didn't even mention a hospital.
Speaker 3: I didn't even mention the courses either.
Speaker 4: All I did, he writes, was criticized the idea that
Speaker 4: people should be forced to accept a hateful worldview. That
Speaker 4: was my mistake speaking out publicly, and he was dragged
Speaker 4: into a meeting.
Speaker 3: It was pretty clear he was on the ropes.
Speaker 4: And then at the second meeting, Meritis vice president of
Speaker 4: Team Member Services Scott sells that he handed down my sentence.
Speaker 4: He provided me with a document that cited my post
Speaker 4: and referred to other posts that quote.
Speaker 3: Could be reasonably viewed as offensive or were misleading or false.
Speaker 2: Wow, just the idea at all of being called in
Speaker 2: at your work and them saying we've got a couple
Speaker 2: of your Twitter posts or Facebook posts we'd like to
Speaker 2: show you here geez, that alone is wow. Unless I
Speaker 2: specifically name the business and say they're committing crimes or something,
Speaker 2: What the hell? Why are you even looking at my Facebook?
Speaker 4: So in a meeting where he was fired, he writes,
Speaker 4: emeritus representative repeatedly said I had waded into a touchy subject.
Speaker 3: That's a quote. You waited that into a touchy subject.
Speaker 3: You're the one who waded into a touchy subject. Exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're flying his wing man. You're like the Blue Angels.
Speaker 4: He says, That's exactly my point. DEI is inherently divisive
Speaker 4: and discriminatory to boot. No hospital or medical provider should
Speaker 4: touch something so touchy, much less fire someone for daring
Speaker 4: to question it. I hope this guy gets fifty job offers.
Speaker 4: I really do, I immediately.
Speaker 2: I always have trouble with this, with with suing for
Speaker 2: getting fired, because I think it's way too hard to
Speaker 2: fire people. In the modern world. It should be easier
Speaker 2: to fire. But so does he have any sort of
Speaker 2: case for wrongful termination?
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about Maryland employment. I suspect very
Speaker 4: strong heat. Does that'll be interesting to see, I wonder?
Speaker 4: And then in a related story, and this just absolutely
Speaker 4: gladdens my heart. A group of sixteen college athletes have
Speaker 4: launched a lawsuit against the nc double A for allowing
Speaker 4: transathletes to compete against them and being forced to use
Speaker 4: male locker room with transgender swimmer Leah Thomas, who still
Speaker 4: has quote full male genitalia. The sixteen female litigants are
Speaker 4: charging that the NCUBA quote committed institutionalized cheating and discrimination
Speaker 4: by supporting and attempting to include Thomas. It alleges that
Speaker 4: up to three hundred college women were forced to use
Speaker 4: the same locker rooms and showering facilities that Thomas used
Speaker 4: during his time on the women's swim team at the
Speaker 4: University of Pennsylvania. That's so crazy. We will look back. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm looking like I don't need to look back. A
Speaker 4: lot of people will look back on this era with
Speaker 4: jaw agape and astonishment that people could be led so
Speaker 4: far afield by the clap trap of the radical gender
Speaker 4: theory crowd.
Speaker 2: But if you're like a nineteen year old girl swimmer,
Speaker 2: and I know this is happening in high schools too underage,
Speaker 2: but just some nineteen year old girl and in the
Speaker 2: locker room, you're just supposed to accept that naked schlong
Speaker 2: over there, Well that's a woman. Oh okay, Well, even
Speaker 2: if you buy that argument that it's a woman, I'm
Speaker 2: still looking at a man's unit like two feet away
Speaker 2: from me.
Speaker 3: It's not eul.
Speaker 4: Well, and back to the communist struggle sessions. That is
Speaker 4: precisely the sort of thing they used to break your spirit.
Speaker 4: Look at that fully intact man and say that's a woman.
Speaker 3: It's not a woman. Say it, Say that's a woman.
Speaker 3: And when you say, all right, that's a woman, they
Speaker 3: know they've broken you.
Speaker 2: So I got a headline from the Washington Post for
Speaker 2: you before we take a quick break.
Speaker 3: I think I think I know where you're going to
Speaker 3: be on this.
Speaker 2: Four years after the toilet paper shortage of twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: bday converts say they're never going back.
Speaker 3: You're a be data. I'm I'm ob original bidet. I
Speaker 3: don't know if I've ever used a bidet. I don't
Speaker 3: think I have.
Speaker 4: Not a bidet goes by that. I don't praise that technology.
Speaker 4: Jack a beday a day keeps the something or other away.
Speaker 3: I don't know what. Well, it's comfort probably best not
Speaker 3: to mention. But so what what?
Speaker 2: What are we are? Your top two selling points of
Speaker 2: the bidet cleanliness Really Okay, so you think it's more comfort, Well,
Speaker 2: this is such an I know I'm not comfortable.
Speaker 4: With this conversation because it will inevitably get into toity talking.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna want the show to be there. How can
Speaker 3: I'm not going there? So we're talking. If we end
Speaker 3: up there, I guess you took us there.
Speaker 4: Oh that's like saying I want to talk about pitching,
Speaker 4: but not baseball.
Speaker 3: What the hell are you talking about.
Speaker 2: I've never used a bedet, and I didn't know what
Speaker 2: the selling point was, or the upside or the why
Speaker 2: why switch from what I've been doing for my whole life?
Speaker 4: If I'm on vacation, I can't wait to get home.
Speaker 4: Really for the gentle comfort of my bathroom equipment?
Speaker 3: Is it warm water? Depends you have settings? Wow, adjust
Speaker 3: it to your comfort.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what a bidet probably sounds like.
Speaker 2: Let's try, Michael, Okay, maybe I'll look into it.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for houses right now.
Speaker 2: Maybe I get there, I'll put that on my list
Speaker 2: of things that's got to have to car garagea end
Speaker 2: of a day.
Speaker 4: So I'm hoping This is the end of the discussion,
Speaker 4: So I'll throw this in now. You don't need an
Speaker 4: actual bidet. You just need one of those bidet toilet
Speaker 4: seat refitting thingies.
Speaker 3: They work great. Okay. You can spend fifty bucks and
Speaker 3: you climb up on the exactly you climb up on
Speaker 3: the sink. Squat like it, you know, squatter. No, No,
Speaker 3: I'll look into that home depot or someplace and I
Speaker 3: can install it myself. You could start there, yes, okay, cool.
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Speaker 10: As I mentioned last week, I went out and bought
Speaker 10: bigger dress shirts because I was tired of the embarrassment
Speaker 10: of the shirts that used to fit pulling apart in
Speaker 10: the center where the buttons are so that my skin showed.
Speaker 2: I had to start wearing an undershirt because my skin
Speaker 2: would show where my shirt was pulled apart. Because I
Speaker 2: don't fit in the shirt anymore, so I just went
Speaker 2: ahead and bought bigger shirts. I didn't want to cave
Speaker 2: into buying bigger shirts because it's a bit of a surrender,
Speaker 2: but I had been thinking for six months, well, I
Speaker 2: just got to get back on the track here eating wise,
Speaker 2: and then I'll get back into those shirts.
Speaker 3: Let's not go nuts and buy new shirts. But I
Speaker 3: just gave up. And having given up, i'd eating a
Speaker 3: donut and a cookie today.
Speaker 2: But there is something going on with obesity, I definitely
Speaker 2: believe now.
Speaker 3: I don't know where you are on this, but part
Speaker 3: of it is choice and lifestyle, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: We eat more and more crap than we ever used to,
Speaker 2: were less active than we were before. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: just no doubt about that. We eat out all the time,
Speaker 2: but processed food. There's lots of bad choices that we're making.
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure many people could get as big
Speaker 2: as a lot of the really big people are forty
Speaker 2: years ago. Know if you could have done it, if
Speaker 2: you tried, And man, I hear you talking, Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: something going on. There's so maybe it is not. This
Speaker 2: is the sort of thing I would have mocked in
Speaker 2: previous years, but now they're saying do not call people obese.
Speaker 2: Call them people suffering with obesity like it's a thing,
Speaker 2: like it's high blood pressure or liver disease. You have obesity,
Speaker 2: that person has obesity. I don't know if that's the
Speaker 2: right term, but there's something going on. If you go
Speaker 2: to a Walmart or I don't know, in all you
Speaker 2: be fay, the number of people in there that are
Speaker 2: like four hundred pounds is shocking.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of that verbal ju jitsu gets
Speaker 4: a little tiresome and is silly at times. Call them
Speaker 4: a person experiencing temporarily addressed addresslessness, I mean, instead of
Speaker 4: saying the homeless. On the other hand, I wouldn't call
Speaker 4: somebody with cancer, cancery or you know, like they're a
Speaker 4: sort of person.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then I'll go through a couple of things in
Speaker 3: the right bill rights.
Speaker 2: But before you start to be concerned that I've gone soft,
Speaker 2: which I have if you poke your finger in my middle,
Speaker 2: but like, uh, in terms of my approach, I will
Speaker 2: become much more hard asked here toward the end of
Speaker 2: this because the example they use in the newspaper I
Speaker 2: think is just ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Oh, something to look forward to. But the bill of rights.
Speaker 2: The eight rights outlined in the declaration would include the
Speaker 2: right to accurate, clear, trusted and accessible information.
Speaker 3: Do we not have that? Now? The right to how
Speaker 3: would what does that mean mean? How would you enforce it? Well?
Speaker 2: This would Well, I'll save the most troubling one for
Speaker 2: the end. The rights is all mumbo jumbo back to you.
Speaker 3: That's clever.
Speaker 2: The right to accessible obesity treatment and settings that allow
Speaker 2: for privacy using equipment and scans that are made for
Speaker 2: people of that size. That's the idea that they don't
Speaker 2: take you to the zoo to away you. They got
Speaker 2: a scale right handle it there so you don't have to,
Speaker 2: you know, get loaded up. They pick you up with
Speaker 2: the big tarp. They put you in a flatbed truck,
Speaker 2: they drive you down the highway.
Speaker 4: They shouldn't have to coat you with Chrisco to get
Speaker 4: you in the MRI machine.
Speaker 2: But they use the examples of chairs that are big
Speaker 2: enough for people to sit on, blood pressure cuffs that
Speaker 2: are big enough, that sort of thing. Okay, at some point,
Speaker 2: you just got to meet people where they are sure.
Speaker 2: I mean you got to just to admit where we
Speaker 2: are and a bunch of other things. But here's the
Speaker 2: one that how would you enforce it? And I don't
Speaker 2: think this is going in the right direction. The right
Speaker 2: to respect? How are you going to put in the
Speaker 2: Bill of Rights with force of law the right to respect?
Speaker 2: And here's the example they give in the USA today.
Speaker 2: Here's a woman. It doesn't say how overright she was,
Speaker 2: but she must have been really overweight because she lost
Speaker 2: seventy pounds before she went in to the doctor, and
Speaker 2: the doctor told her she really needs to lose weight.
Speaker 2: But she tells the story of going in with her
Speaker 2: hip pain. She'd already lost seventy pounds with a great
Speaker 2: deal of work and feeling better than she'd felt in
Speaker 2: a long time. But she goes in to see the
Speaker 2: specialist with her hip pain, and the first thing the
Speaker 2: specialist says, looking at her, says, you need to lose
Speaker 2: some weight. I didn't have the courage to say. And
Speaker 2: then she started crying, and she said, I didn't have
Speaker 2: the courage to say. I'm crying because you're being such
Speaker 2: a jerk. And then the USA Today goes about how
Speaker 2: people are treated like this all the time. If you're
Speaker 2: really really overweight and you go to the hip pain
Speaker 2: specialist or the knee guy or the ankle guy. They
Speaker 2: got to be able to say you should lose some weight,
Speaker 2: don't they.
Speaker 4: The idea that that's disrespectful is bizarre to me as
Speaker 4: a guy, I can tell you practically the precise weight
Speaker 4: at least till now, and it could get worse that
Speaker 4: I have to be under or else my blood pressure goes.
Speaker 3: Up to levels that are unacceptable. It's a weight thing.
Speaker 4: And the idea that it's disrespectful for my doctor to
Speaker 4: point that out to me is again, it's beyond and wise.
Speaker 3: It's bizarre. I can't believe somebody would assert that.
Speaker 2: Well, they go on with many paragraphs in the USA
Speaker 2: today and people having to suffer that sort of indignity
Speaker 2: every single day.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna do.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna do any of us any favors if
Speaker 2: the doctor keeps the most likely cause of our problems
Speaker 2: to himself and acts like it's something else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, what a troubling notion. That whole fat acceptance
Speaker 4: movement and this sounds like it's at least allied with
Speaker 4: it is just it's unsupportable by logic or medical necessity.
Speaker 3: No, I'm mockery or or you know, assailing people for
Speaker 3: their lack of control in a medical setting or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, nobody would want that, of course, but I
Speaker 4: don't get the sense that that's happening. If you sit
Speaker 4: on a chair and it breaks, I understand your embarrassment
Speaker 4: and perhaps physical anguish, but I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is just trying to hard.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure where I come down on the whole
Speaker 2: chair thing. I don't know about a right. Rights are
Speaker 2: a right to this? Come on, if you have a
Speaker 2: lot of patients who are this wide, and I'm holding
Speaker 2: my arms way apart because a lot of people are
Speaker 2: that wide, then what are you doing with the chair
Speaker 2: that's this wide? Where are they supposed to sit? I mean,
Speaker 2: let's just again meet people where they are. You got
Speaker 2: lots of patients, their asses this big, and you got
Speaker 2: a chair this big. Just seems odd to me. But again,
Speaker 2: I don't know about a bill of rights. You know,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't move when you walk across a room or
Speaker 2: anything like that.
Speaker 3: But Michael, what's a what's a food?
Speaker 4: Oh wait a second, this is a little mad libby,
Speaker 4: But what's what's a food that starts with G?
Speaker 3: Extra points? If it's gr.
Speaker 7: Gummy bears, guacam Holy, gummy bears.
Speaker 2: No wonder you have diabetes. Your first thought is gummy bears. Wow,
Speaker 2: you're a grown ass man.
Speaker 3: Huh, here's your h Granola? What Katie? Katie? Granola? Green beans?
Speaker 4: Green?
Speaker 2: Green beans is a goblin. I'm with you, Michael. I
Speaker 2: would to come up with something for me before I
Speaker 2: had to come up with green beans.
Speaker 4: I like walking on all right, So here's your uh,
Speaker 4: here's your obesity Bill of Rights and why reinvented completely.
Speaker 3: Let's go on. Let's base it on our current bill
Speaker 3: of rights.
Speaker 4: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of rotisseries,
Speaker 4: or prohibiting the free eclaire thereof, or bridging the freedom
Speaker 4: of spatulas or of the pizza, or the right of
Speaker 4: the people to peace empily barbecue, and to position the
Speaker 4: government for redress of guacamole.
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