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While Southwest, we'll just 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:46.479 start forwarding your mail. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.960 So you flew the other day, Katie, and you said 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.560 you had some complaints we were going to bring up 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.560 on the podcast. We haven't yet. What was your is 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.000 there a short version of this, or do you need 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:58.000 the whole podcast for that? 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.920 I don't need the whole podcast, but it's a it's 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:02.240 a little bit of a longer story. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:02.560 It was. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:07.400 Well, if you want it now, I can give it 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.480 to you now. I was flying to visit my parents 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.200 in Boise. So I flew out of Sacramento and was 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:17.440 headed to Boise, where dense fog is common. We were 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.280 fifty feet off the ground and all of a sudden, 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:22.960 I just feel the plane start to go right back up. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.600 So we were about to land, and then we just 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.880 start going right back up. Mind you, the entire time 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.000 this is happening, the woman sitting next to me is 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:35.280 hammer drunk, oh boy, hammer and. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.000 Talking like this, leaning over my lap. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.639 She put her drink on my tray table. I was ready, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:46.000 it was, it was. It was above and beyond and. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.760 Happy drunk, chatty drunk. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.760 Can't be drunk, chatty drunk, singing at the top of 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.280 her lungs with her headphones in. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.680 Drunk wow wow. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.120 When the when the flight attendant came by to take 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.600 all the trash, you know, before they land, she wouldn't 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.320 give him her cocktail. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:08.760 Cause she wasn't done yet right, and so was drink 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.040 or drink of choice? 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.480 It was it was some I don't know it was 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.000 hard liquor, but it was not something I was fast. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.200 Eddie is that'sh. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:18.960 That's a deep Bettye vodka? 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.560 Maybe yeah, I think it was Eddie vodka something like that. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.480 So I get to enjoy more time with this woman 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.920 because we went back up into the sky and the 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.560 flight attendant comes on over and says, we saw some 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:40.240 unexpected fog. We're gonna have to go refuel in Eugene, Oregon. Witches, yeah, 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.840 it's forty five minutes to an hour in the opposite 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:44.440 direction of where I'm trying to get. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.000 So we adventure that way. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.720 No more beverages, no water, no snacks, no alcohol because 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:52.520 it was all gone. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:53.800 Apparently you could. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.480 Have landed where you were a celebrity because we're on 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.320 kug y n Oh. 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.600 We did land and we sat there for an hour 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:00.640 and any. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.240 Letters one too many letters, kun k there you go. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.680 So yeah, we sat there for about an hour and 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.560 a half they quote unquote. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.960 Refuel and a half, yeah, because they had to wait. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.200 For the fuel person to get there. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.320 Meanwhile, this woman, it's like the alcohol was just really 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.240 starting to seep into our system because it was getting 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:19.440 worse and worse. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.080 You know, I got to rewind just briefly, so you 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.400 were you were within fifty feet of land. That sucks, 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:31.839 but but there wasn't enough fuel to circle a couple 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:32.520 of times. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.520 Or see, I'm calling bull s on this one because 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:37.960 when we landed in Eugene. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.120 So you think the pilot's got a side piece in Oregon, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:40.880 is what you're thinking. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:45.400 I think that the pilot who just so happened to 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.280 be a she could not land the plane in the 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:52.120 fog and freaked out, what I think, because they were 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.880 there were a lot of apologies going on as she 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.200 was leaving the plane, and then a new pilot came on. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.920 She had a d appointment in Eugene. As I try 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.680 heard that term for the first time the other day. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.960 She she had a. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:06.680 What de appointment? 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.040 I'm using abbreviation, but I heard somebody use that term 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.400 in casual conversation like that's a thing. Maybe it's a 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:13.200 thing with the young people. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.839 I don't know. Yeah, she was tend to get some 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.080 loving from a fella. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:17.520 Is that? 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:18.320 Oh lord? 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.960 Yeah, she was gonna go get the d. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.720 Close your eyes and set this jumbo down. All right, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.400 we're close enough, we appear to be close to Boise. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.760 Let's this is what you gotta say. You gotta say. 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.120 We're gonna give you the option. We'll be fifty feet 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.000 off the ground if you want to roll out the 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:34.480 door and just take your chances. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.000 Otherwise we're going to Eugene. 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:37.840 So I might I want to jump out and just 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.600 don't roll for a while. I'll be okay, and then 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.360 I'll get up my feet dous myself off. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.920 When we were sitting there, I've never come so close 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.640 to pulling the emergency hatch and just going down that slide, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:47.400 I was, I. 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:47.960 Was over it. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:49.920 Did they keep you on the plane the whole time? Yep, 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:56.000 that's the part that I understand. And Tim Sanders and 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.839 I talked about airlines last time he was on his 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.080 whole thing was they're the safest they've ever been. And 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.920 I'm my argument is make them this much less safe, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.719 since I'm not the least bit worried about them crashing. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:12.200 If it's going to improve the whole airline thing and 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:17.239 the current system they've got where they don't get dinged 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:22.239 for uh late takeoffs or landings or this sort of stuff. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.239 If they keep you on the plane is a bad system. 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.760 Let me off the freaking plaine. I understand things happen sometime, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.719 but let me off the damn plane. The keeping you 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.160 on the plane is torture. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.920 M Yeah. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.839 And after the fiasco, we were sitting on the on 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.320 the tarmac waiting to take off again. They get us refueled. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.719 We get in the air and the drunk woman she 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.599 had fallen asleep for a little bit, so I thought 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:47.120 we were safe. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.000 She woke back up as a as a lifelong drunk, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.560 that is the worst. Once you've yeah, yeah, you had 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.359 your you had your your buzz going. You'd peaked it 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.360 just for landing, and then you're gonna keep it going 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.480 where and you get home or whatever, and it's now 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.960 it's now. Now you're past the side where it's just 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.640 you feel sick and your head hurts, and oh that's 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:05.200 the worst. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:05.520 Yeah. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.320 See, I thought that it was over, but she woke 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:08.960 up peaked. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.160 She was still right all the way in it. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.600 She asked me if we were in Boise about three 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.480 hundred and eighty six times, and then she put her 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:20.960 headphones back in and proceeeded to wrap and drop thirteen 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:21.720 n bombs. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.440 Wow, yoh? 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:29.440 Was this a person a POC or a cool Nope? 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.040 She was just a white brunette lady. How old boy, 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.520 that's bold mid forties maybe. And she had you know, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.160 the claw nails and she was clicking them. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.480 The whole time. I uld never do that again. Yeah, 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.920 that was often just you doing that there. Yeah. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:50.440 So we landed, and I promised everyone that I love 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.520 that I'm taking horseback whenever I travel ever. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.520 Whatever it takes, all those things that you mentioned about her, 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.000 I think the clicking the nails is the one that 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.560 would have driven me to she was. 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.200 She was just everything awful. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.080 Trying to look on an emergency door so I can 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.640 be arrested by the TSA just to get away from her. Yeah. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.080 I find the wrapping along and dropping in bombs to 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.720 be quite extraordinary. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.120 What were the other passengers doing? The guy in front 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.720 of us was black. I was like, oh, wow, is 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.280 this gonna be Wow? Did he ever turn around like yo, 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:23.040 what's the deal here? 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.920 He turned around and looked at her like each time 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.520 that it happened, but didn't say anything. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:28.200 Wow. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.920 That's because he was probably a reasonable song said sunk idiot. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:35.920 I sware. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:37.400 I thought she was going to get us deep planed 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.120 and Eugene, though, you know, they one person acts up 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.080 and then they get everybody off the plane and it 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:46.080 turns into all I thought that was coming to well. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.920 The air waitresses flying planes as they should know. I 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.880 was going to say to the pilots, not know how 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.920 miserable it is to be in a plane for an 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.000 hour and a half when you could be walking around 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.640 in an airport. I've done it for longer than I 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.679 did it for three hours once at Burbank. It's just 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.400 it's just horrible. 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.760 Sitting in everybody jammed in the summer. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.720 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no fresh air in the 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.880 line for the bathroom gets long, and the bathroom gets 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.840 filled up and they won't they don't send the cart 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:14.440 out usually. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:19.280 It's just it's horrible, full flight. Baby's crying the whole nine. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.839 So yeah, all Oj said was ain't nobody leaving this room? 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:24.719 And they got him for kidnapping. 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.640 To keep you on a damn airplane for hours and 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.080 say if you get off, we're gonna arrest you. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.840 Come on and again, Yeah, it's got it's got to 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.760 do with stupid regulations. And rules that I just wish 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.199 they would change so it didn't. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.800 Have to happen. I have the wrong incentives and distances. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.560 I understand the logistics of completely unloading the plane, then 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.440 loading you again, trying to find everybody and make sure 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.800 everybody is who they don't. You got to run the 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.160 boarding passes again and all that stuff. I get it, 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:52.120 But you got to figure it out. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know Pete boot edge 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.760 Edge is working on that right now. And I don't 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.960 know how I feel about that because it's in fear. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.360 Are you a free market where he could compete and 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:07.319 but it doesn't seem to be barrier of entry? Is 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.360 too expensive for for somebody to get in? 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:09.679 Is that? 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.840 I mean at some point you're not a free market 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:12.760 because of that, aren't you? 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.720 Boot Edge Edge edge Edge? 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:20.520 They say, will he vanish from the national political landscape 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:21.480 or is he. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.320 One of the rock stars to be nominee in twenty 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.360 eight on what basis? 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.240 He's a good because he's known and he's a pleasant 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.800 looking fella. He's a he's a good talker, he's good 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.960 in an interview and that sort of thing. Our politics 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.079 is so stupid. Well, I have no doubt about that. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:42.720 Boot edge edge right edge edge. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.319 Katie, was this plain full? You could have moved? 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.120 It was a one hundred percent full flight. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.079 Why don't almost every flight I'm on is very rarely. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:52.760 I'm not on a. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.360 Flight that's not one hundred percent full anymore? Why don't 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.280 more people drinkers bring on the little bottles? I know 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.240 they make the announce every time that you're not allowed 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:02.559 to do that, But how they're gonna catch me? 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:03.520 Right? 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.600 Or a pepsi? I wait one minute for the person 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.760 to walk, go in, I pour my pepsi? Does that 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.920 happen a lot among drinkers? I don't drink, so I 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.040 don't know, be a lot cheaper. 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:15.960 Sure, Yeah, I don't. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:21.200 You can't get liquid through security, well, you little. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.200 You'd have to buy it once you're inside the Yeah, 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.400 but you can buy it when you're inside the whatever 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.000 you call it past security right there? 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:29.160 Yeah, the terminal. Yeah. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.640 Just of crimes that I don't have a moral problem with. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.719 That'd be one of them. If my passenger gets out 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.120 a little bottle and pours it in their coke to 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.560 save themselves eleven dollars on their drink. 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.640 I don't No, I don't care as long as they 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.199 don't like start singing along and rapping and. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:47.760 Clicking your nails. Oh oh, that's so awful. Not awful. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.520 Try that, Try that for about five hours. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:12:01.600 Guys, Armstrong and Getty shot. 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.360 We're living in a skinny Oprah world again. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.079 We've been living in Oprah's world for many decades now, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.520 and sometimes it's fat Oprah world and sometimes it's skinny 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:10.960 Oprah world. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:11.959 And she's skinny again. 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:14.880 You know how old Oprah is? Off the top of 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:19.120 your head. How old's Oprah Winfrey sixty? She's seventy years old. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.680 I didn't realize that. But anyway, she had some special 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.840 last night about weight loss. She quit weight Watchers last week. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.559 She's been a weight Watchers on the board and spokesman 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.440 for decades, and she quit because she wanted to do 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.559 this special that aired last night and be able to 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.160 talk openly about anything weight related and not have a 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.959 conflict to interest with the company she works for. Because 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.560 she's now on some of those drugs. She won't say 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.000 if it's those Zembaker, Wagovia or which one, but she's 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.920 on one of them to lose her weight. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.000 And what was the other thing I was gonna mention 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.520 weight weight loss. She's skinny again, and she's seventy years old, 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.920 and she oh, I thought this was kind of funny. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.640 She was on Jimmy Kimmel the other night and he asked, 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.880 did you cryed when you told them you were leaving Wetwatchers? 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.400 She said no, but they almost did. 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:14.160 I'll bet they did, losing their most important, biggest spokesperson. Anyway, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.199 here's a little oprah from her special last night. 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:20.160 I guess I took on the shame that the world 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.240 gave to me for twenty five years. Making fun of 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:27.280 my weight was National Sport nineteen ninety. I saw myself 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.440 on the cover of TV guides Best and Worst Dressless, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.560 and I remember thinking, oh, look, there I am on 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:32.960 the cover. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.679 Mister Blackwell, the taste maker of. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:40.679 The time, called me bumpy, lumpy and downright dumpy. I 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.720 was ridiculed on every late night talk show for twenty 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.240 five years and tabloid covers for twenty five years. So 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.720 in an effort to combat all the shame, I starved 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.760 myself for nearly five months and then wheeled out that 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.240 wagon a fat and after losing sixty seven pounds on 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:02.640 liquid diet, the net today I started to gain it back. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.360 Yeah, that's what she's talking about, is the whole yo 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.600 yo thing, or you lose it and then you gain back, 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.439 often more than you lost. And how that's common for people. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.679 I don't wonder her point is there, though. 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:15.000 So. 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.920 People ridiculed you for being fat, and so you're not 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.440 going with the I felt the shame, So you're not 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.000 going with this. So I'm just accepting who I am. 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.720 You're going with the I tried a different drug since 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.080 weight Watchers didn't work anymore. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.480 Now I'm skinnykin and happy. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.440 So I'm not exactly sure how that fits in with 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:34.600 what you just said. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:40.240 Well, her overall point is that obesity is a medical condition. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.280 We need to remove the shame from it and treat 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:44.720 it as a medical condition. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.400 I wonder if she's about to one of these companies 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.240 is about to announce her as the spokesperson like she 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.120 did weight Watchers forever. I mean, she's a hell a 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.320 smart business woman. She realizes. I mean, weight Watchers was 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.680 the thing that and slim fast back in the day, 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.240 But the thing now is Ozimpia and the GOVA or 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.680 whatever the name of those things are close enough. That's 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.040 the hot thing. Now she might she might immediately be 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.200 uh the face of that or the butt of that, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:13.800 if you will, I will not. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:20.720 I completely believe that she her thing is business, business success, 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.120 that that's what animates her. I can't imagine if I 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.520 had her money giving a single moment's thought to cutting 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:32.320 another deal for anything. But that's obviously who she is, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.560 so I guess that's possible. 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.640 I also think she has a conscience. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.040 I think she's brilliant, But I also think she cares 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.160 about certain issues, and I think she wants to be 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.840 a crusader for Like I said, this is a medical issue, 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:46.720 not a shamed thing. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.000 Let's treat it as such. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.280 I don't know, is it. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.320 Do people feel ashamed? I mean, like I I, I 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:56.880 don't know. I don't. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.680 I don't if I feel ashamed. I mean, it's maddening 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.720 the lack of self control and seeing the result on 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:05.240 the scale. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:06.840 I don't know if I feel ashamed about it. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:13.640 But people embarrassment about being seriously overweight, Yeah. 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:13.960 Some. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.280 It's depressing that the fact you get that whole set 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:24.040 point and thing that we've discussed before. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:25.440 I don't know. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.360 I wonder if this is going to be a new 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.880 chapter in the whole weight thing nationwide, everybody's gonna guarantee it. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.680 You think it's Do you think we're into a new era? 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.760 Yeah? I think they are still well. 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.480 I know they're still doing the math, and doctors and 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:43.080 epidemiologists and physicists and truck drivers whatever are all putting 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.120 their heads together and try to figure out, Okay, if 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.320 we have these people on these drugs, which are quite 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.920 expensive now but that'll probably come down, how much does 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:56.280 that save going forward in diabetes care, heart disease care, 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:01.320 heart attacks and strokes, joint wearing out joints. I've had 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.119 a couple of joints where out of this arthritis, not weight, 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:09.720 but it's expensive. So yeah, I think I don't know 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.440 if it's going to change a little or a lot, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.280 but it'll definitely change the way weight is dealt with now. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:15.919 I wonder if like half of us will be on 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.520 one of those drugs in five years, certainly could be. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.240 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:27.240 And if only more could be done preventing kids from 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.639 becoming obese, Yeah, that's another challenge. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.720 Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty show. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.879 There was a great editorial in the Wall Street Journal 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:48.360 by a bloke by the name of Brad McDowell who 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:52.800 said DEI got me sacked from my nursing job. It 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.040 didn't matter that my critical Facebook posts made no reference 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.520 to the hospital I worked. And he says, it's fine 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.040 to oppose DEI as long as you keep it to yourself. 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.720 The moment you speak out, you have a target on 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.560 your back. He made the mistake of questioning DEI on 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.600 his personal social media account again that had no indication 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.679 of employment whatsoever. The hospital where I worked fired me 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.439 within days. Now, this guy was not just a nurse. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.520 He's been in the profession for a very long time. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:24.520 He's a nursing supervisor. He was a big part of 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:29.680 the whole nursing department at the Meritis Medical Center in Hagerstown, Maryland. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.399 Like many states, Maryland has been foisting DEI courses on 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.960 medical pros for several years. Since twenty twenty two, it's 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.920 required that all healthcare professionals take implicit bias training, which 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.600 of course is Neo Marxist training in critical race theory, 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.600 and they go in. He goes into the history of 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.959 it a little bit. But I took the first session 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:49.400 of the course in July twenty three. 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.359 This is going to sound familiar to a lot of you. 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.120 I was bombarded with evidence free claims that implicit bias 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.879 has caused a crisis of maternal mortality in black women. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.359 The course ignored the complex actors that contribute to higher 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.800 black maternal mortality, including comorbidities, while defining any death from 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.280 any cause after a year of giving birth as maternal 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:13.200 mortality a logical stretch at best. Overall, the course implied 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.879 that white nurses like me are killing Black mothers. I 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.280 was supposed to internalize this message and somehow apply it 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:19.719 to the management of my team. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.360 Yeah, even if you bought it, what were you supposed 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:23.600 to do? 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.719 Then? In January, Meritis sent me materials for another DEI 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.720 course for hospital leaders. The material asserted, among other things, 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.000 that the US is quote built on an ideology of 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.120