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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right's still alive on a reaction Monday edition to

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Speaker 2: plead the Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. He is

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Speaker 2: the great z. It is typically the half half happiest

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Speaker 2: time of the year. No joy in Mudville, though, Buddy,

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Speaker 2: not not only a loss, and there's some bright spots,

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Speaker 2: but you know it's the devastating injury to quin Shawn Judkins.

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Speaker 3: Is the kind of the story here as we pick

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Speaker 3: things up on a Monday.

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Speaker 4: Silver Lining and we'll hear from Kevin Stefanski later on

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Speaker 4: silver Lining, is that there was no knee damage and

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Speaker 4: so and it was horrific. It kind of like took

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Speaker 4: my breath away, and it brought me back from a

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Speaker 4: memory standpoint to the Nick Chubb injury that happened in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 4: where once you saw it and in this case, I

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Speaker 4: was able I saw it a little bit more in

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Speaker 4: real time than obviously in the Nick Chubb one where

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Speaker 4: you just kind of say, oh my god, and you

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Speaker 4: know this is this is bad and unfortunately kind of

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Speaker 4: in the same spot of the field where we lost

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Speaker 4: Jwan Jones for the year and you knew right away

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Speaker 4: and his foot was not going the direction the foot

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Speaker 4: was supposed to be going.

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Speaker 5: As far as my understanding of the anatomy.

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Speaker 4: Is, and if there's a silver lining, it's the fact

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Speaker 4: that it's broken bones and disokayed ankle and that is

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Speaker 4: a much shorter recovery time and a much better prognosis

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Speaker 4: and time to return to one hundred percent than it

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Speaker 4: would have been an acl or an achilles or ligaments,

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Speaker 4: you know, tendons, things of that nature. So I guess

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Speaker 4: that's the bright spot. It's sad that his season ends.

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Speaker 4: He was, I thought, having a very nice game and yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was just it's just another one. It's like another

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Speaker 4: one bites the dust, you know when you think about

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Speaker 4: for this team, like some of the guys that were

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Speaker 4: and I mean Malie Collins's loss has been felt in

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Speaker 4: just a no major fashion, you know, the losses of

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Speaker 4: Posik Teller, although I think loluh Whooper's played well. So

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Speaker 4: I'll say, you know, Teller Conklin, Dwan Jones have been

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Speaker 4: felt epically. No Denzel Ward out there certainly has been

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Speaker 4: felt in a big way for the Cleveland Browns. And

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Speaker 4: it's just it's tough, man. This has been a brutal,

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Speaker 4: brutal stretch of injuries. And that one to Quinn Sean,

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Speaker 4: you know, because he's a young guy, he's you know

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Speaker 4: right now what you're looking for in these last few games,

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Speaker 4: like who's the core?

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Speaker 6: That's it?

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Speaker 5: And he certainly is in the core.

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Speaker 4: Like you'd say, you know, you got on on offense,

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Speaker 4: you know, a couple of guys that are certainly I

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Speaker 4: think in your core going forward. He certainly would have

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Speaker 4: been first among them at the running back position. But

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Speaker 4: you know, now we're talking about a team that potentially

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Speaker 4: I Dylan Samson's not ready to go, is going to

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Speaker 4: be you know, without their top three running backs going

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Speaker 4: into the season. We are without so many guys on

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Speaker 4: the defensive line, we're without you know, last week we

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Speaker 4: played without our preseason top four cornerbacks on the roster.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it's been tough, but you hate to see

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Speaker 5: it for quinch On.

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Speaker 4: I you what I was mostly I'm like, finally we're

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Speaker 4: getting him this, get involved in the passing game. And

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Speaker 4: he had the one where Shad Door threw it a

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Speaker 4: little before he's ready off of his shoulder pad and

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Speaker 4: he's obviously I think that just can't become a turnover.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he should have caught it, but that

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Speaker 4: you just that.

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Speaker 5: One can't become a turnover.

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Speaker 4: But you know you're getting him going, You're finding ways

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Speaker 4: because you know, I was watching the game. One of

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Speaker 4: the things I said during the badcast, I don't know

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Speaker 4: if this is one you were in the car or not,

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Speaker 4: but in the first half, in particular, it felt like

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Speaker 4: their running game and our running game were being played.

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Speaker 5: In different sports.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like James Cook had one hundred yards and he

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Speaker 4: was he was five to eight yards downfield four he

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Speaker 4: was touched on every carry, and then quinch On is

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Speaker 4: running into walls. Yeah, It's like, how is this the

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Speaker 4: same sport?

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Speaker 2: That and that's that's the thing that I think makes

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Speaker 2: Would Quinn schun end up with a little over eight

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Speaker 4: That, He's gonna end a season two hundred and thirty carries,

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Speaker 4: eight hundred and twenty seven yards, seven touchdowns, three point

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Speaker 4: six yards a carry on the ground, twenty six catches,

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Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy won, nine hundred and ninety eight yards,

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Speaker 4: just too shy of a thousand from scrimmage, seven total touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: which leads the team. And of course he didn't have

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Speaker 4: a training camp, he didn't have no he d right

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that sucks is because it was he

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Speaker 2: was one of the If you did not watch this

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Speaker 2: of the football community probably didn't because we've been out

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Speaker 2: of it for a very long time. But if you

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Speaker 2: didn't watch this this team all year, you weren't aware

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Speaker 2: of what he's up against from an offensive line, protection,

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Speaker 2: You look at those stats, you're and be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he's fine. No, he's a stud. The kid was a stud,

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Speaker 2: And it's just a matter of you had that stat

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Speaker 2: it's just one of those things where like that statistical

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Speaker 4: Again, and I gave the SAT and now I can

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Speaker 5: And we'll do just a quick bit of math here.

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Speaker 4: So, for example, we know that in this game, James Cook,

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Speaker 5: Okay, so do the math.

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Speaker 4: So that's six hundred and nineteen yards before contact, right,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. Basically his entire game begats, this was

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Speaker 4: before contact. This is These are the Pro Football Focus numbers. Yep,

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Speaker 4: quin Shawn, I've got to find them here, quinshin is

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Speaker 4: eight hundred and twenty seven yards and seven hundred and

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Speaker 5: Two yards or no? Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Is what you said?

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Speaker 3: Ninety two?

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Speaker 4: Yep, ninety two, yeah two versus six hundred and nineteen

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Speaker 2: So like if you didn't watch our games and you're

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Speaker 2: from the NFL at large, you might say, well, he

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Speaker 2: was fine. No, he was not and in the words

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Speaker 2: of Kevin Stefanski from like two months ago, the.

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Speaker 5: Kids have stud Yep, he's stud yep. That's the way

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Speaker 2: And so you know, you'd love to get the win,

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Speaker 2: but what we really you know, you want to be

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Speaker 2: You want to see or continue to elevate. And he

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Speaker 2: had some really bright moments in this one, and then

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Speaker 2: everything built in. And now you've lost a key pillar

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Speaker 2: to that in quin Shawn Judkins. Now he'll be back,

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Speaker 2: and that's great and the prognosis to your point, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is far better news than I had feared when

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Speaker 3: Saw reaction to it. But at the same time, it's

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Speaker 3: a bummer man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah he could.

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Speaker 4: I mean, in theory he could be back for you know,

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Speaker 4: mini camp and OTAs. Yeah, now that's in play. So

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Speaker 4: that's great news. He'll certainly be ready for training camp

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Speaker 4: and ready to go next year. So your dad is

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Speaker 4: fantastic news on Quinchhon's But you think about kind of

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Speaker 4: your big four rookies. You know, as I look at him,

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Speaker 4: Shador who you know, we're seeing good things and and

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Speaker 4: certainly things to work on. And I think, let me

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Speaker 4: just say, I believe that he's in operating under one

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Speaker 4: of the most difficult environments for a young quarterback period. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you've got Carson who follows up his career high fourteen

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Speaker 4: way to being the defensive work of the year. Oh,

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Speaker 4: he got a sack in this game as well.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 5: By the way, that was one of the over runners.

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Speaker 5: I really think.

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Speaker 4: I think it was a separation, separate separation Sunday that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I feel pretty good about it.

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Speaker 4: I got on that. We got the total there are.

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Speaker 3: You think he did well on the differences?

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Speaker 4: And then obviously Harold Fannin has another just great game

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Speaker 4: in terms of not only did he catch a touchdown

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Speaker 4: He ran for a touchdown as well in this game.

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Speaker 4: And you know, and then you had quin Shawn who's

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Speaker 4: now injured. But Carson and Fannon are looking as good

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Speaker 4: as anybody, and people say, big four, where's Mason Graham

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Speaker 4: done something necessarily that he hasn't had a game.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: It certainly Shoulder had the Tennessee game, which was a

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Speaker 4: historic game for a rookie. Only he and Joe Burrow

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Speaker 4: had a game like that in their entire rookie season,

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Speaker 4: So we want to see it. I do feel badly

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Speaker 4: for Mason credited with his first sack. It would been

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Speaker 4: his first full sack of the season. Instead it gets

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Speaker 4: taken away and it ends up being a half a

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Speaker 5: For Alex Right just having a very nice season there.

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Speaker 4: Miles, though, did get the half sack, no tackles for

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Speaker 4: lost this game, and they not only did they run

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Speaker 4: every play away from him on past situations, they ran

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Speaker 4: every run away from him too because they were not

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Speaker 4: allowed to be involved in this game.

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Speaker 2: No, And I think Pittsburgh will do the same thing

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Speaker 2: on Sundays. So if you're Jim Schwartz. What can you

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Speaker 2: do to make sure that this happens, Because if like

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Speaker 2: Buffalo wasn't playing around, Pittsburgh is definitely not going to

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Speaker 2: be giving you anything. I mean, that'll take dumb luck.

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Speaker 2: If you're able to do it against the Steelers, they

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Speaker 2: won't run anything your way. Rogers doesn't hold onto it

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Speaker 2: at all. The only scenario I could see where it

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Speaker 5: But their plan will be to avoid him like the play, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But he ran for a career high forty nine yards

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Speaker 4: He doesn't enough attempts to qualify yet, but he is

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Speaker 4: he has been. I think there's enough there that you

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Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and give everything to him. Let's get

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Speaker 4: let's see what happens. I think he's shown enough to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's he's certainly.

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Speaker 2: What I think is cool about him week in and

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Speaker 2: I think there's all of that.

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Speaker 2: The thing too with this, with all of these rookies

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Speaker 3: Mean it's some of it. It's out of necessity.

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Speaker 2: You are relying upon all of these rookies to do

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Speaker 4: No, But if you were able to stack this draft

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Speaker 4: one of the nicknames coming out. Liam Cohen can flat

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Speaker 5: It's clear.

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Speaker 4: And he's got an edge to him that was not

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Speaker 3: Who isn't true sport right now?

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Speaker 4: People are but at the same time, we've got I

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Speaker 5: They were, but they're large largely the rest of it

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Speaker 2: The got hurt, didn't finish, he didn't finished. That kid

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the game, well, the Steelers Lions game

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Speaker 4: Those are the kind of the games of teams of

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Speaker 4: Philly was a Carolina I'm sorry. Tampa was a good game, yep,

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Speaker 3: And then the Patriots last night.

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Speaker 2: it's just going to be who can be closest to healthy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but they don't.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of malt we talked about sometimes when you

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Speaker 4: they not either make a trade for or go out

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a question where like you'd love to hear

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Speaker 5: Who didn't perform to the level that you thought that

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Speaker 2: Did you was your bet that Hey, the way that

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Speaker 2: this cap is waving is we're just gonna have to

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Speaker 2: kind of punt on receiver right now.

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Speaker 3: But like you're in it.

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Speaker 4: People used to get mad at the Packers for not

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Speaker 4: getting another's here, and they had DeVonta Adams.

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Speaker 5: Like, as long as you have that guy, have one dude?

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Speaker 4: Yes, they do not have it. They do not have

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Speaker 4: a dude. James Cook is the dude.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: And it reminded me when I was watching the Lions

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Speaker 2: lose yesterday to Pittsburgh. Remember that the Dan Campbell presser.

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Speaker 2: Was it two years ago they lost in the NFC

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Speaker 2: Championship game to San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, way, he went for unfourt to down like five

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Speaker 5: times and did not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he goes and he was He said, you

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Speaker 2: just don't know if we can get back here. And

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Speaker 2: at the time he said that, you're saying to yourself, well,

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Speaker 2: of course you are.

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Speaker 5: Look at you're the.

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Speaker 2: Youngest, one of the youngest teams in the league, Like

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Speaker 2: everyone's in their prime. You have all these picks from

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Speaker 2: the Rams, like, of course you're going to be back

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Speaker 2: in this thing. Well, they're going to miss the playoffs

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not a f.

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Speaker 2: Yet, but they're gonna And the reality is, you don't know.

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Speaker 2: And they were in a real super Bowl window. Yep,

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Speaker 2: they had a window.

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Speaker 5: But they had injuries last year, they had injuries this year.

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Speaker 4: Last year probably was the real shot or maybe a

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Speaker 4: little bit better management the year when they're in San

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Speaker 4: Francisco those.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that you just don't know how fleeting it is.

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Speaker 5: It's so hard. Look at the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely played in the Super Bowl. There were five minutes

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Speaker 4: from what winning the Super Bowl to they're in a

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Speaker 4: little bit just right now. Joe Burrow certainly had fun

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Speaker 4: yesterday and looked darn good playing. But it's wild. But

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Speaker 4: speaking of real quickly, what was your thought on the

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Speaker 4: ending of that Detroit game?

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Speaker 3: Uh? So, you know me, I'm a big like a

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Speaker 3: cap on legend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big spirit of the rule guy.

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Speaker 5: Yep, as opposed to as it should be. Absolutely yeah, So.

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Speaker 2: Do I think that offensive past interference in that moment

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Speaker 2: would have being called as necessary? No, I would rather

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Speaker 2: had it just play itself out. By the book, is

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Speaker 2: that offensiveast interference? Yeah, but it probably happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I know what happens all the time, and

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Speaker 2: it's not called. It was called there because it happened

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Speaker 2: right in front of the umpire and he threw it

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Speaker 2: after he caught it.

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Speaker 4: By the way, which was weird because he did it

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Speaker 4: after he caught it was clear he wasn't getting into

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Speaker 4: the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was also clear that Like so, I

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Speaker 2: wish it wasn't of it. I wish it could have been.

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Speaker 2: Now obviously a personal animus towards Pittsburgh, so incredible way

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Speaker 2: for them to lose, So that factors into it too.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time I thought I probably just

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Speaker 2: would have let it play out. But what I thought

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Speaker 2: was even more egregious even than that, is when the

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Speaker 2: referee got on the mic and said touchdown and then

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Speaker 2: backpedaled it. The first thing has to be there's offensive

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Speaker 2: pass interference on the play, the game is over. That's

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Speaker 2: how you do it. You don't say it's a touchdown

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Speaker 2: on the field and then the place goes nuts. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: one knows what the hell's going on. It was so

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Speaker 2: cruel what they did to Detroit just say, we have offense.

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Speaker 2: The lagas were offensive pass interference the games.

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Speaker 5: That's again no time left on the clock, so that's

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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 2: Was it pass interference offensively? Yeah, but I probably would

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Speaker 2: have been fine them not calling it.

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Speaker 5: No, come on, it's in the red zone. It's at

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Speaker 5: the end of the game.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 4: The one they called on the easy touchdown when there

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Speaker 4: was basically a clear block because remember they scored on

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Speaker 4: wasn't it first.

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Speaker 5: Down that they scored on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that one was OPI I mean it was a

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Speaker 4: pick play, you know, and appreciate the hustle.

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Speaker 5: It is a good, good try, but that's what.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You also had one. The Steelers had one too early.

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Speaker 5: They did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And there was the one last night with Booty

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Speaker 2: that that was crazy.

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Speaker 9: In the Ravens game, we had one. Like Ciliana and

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Speaker 9: I were just talking about it grounding not grounding safety

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Speaker 9: while we were in break.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah with Josh. Yeah, what did they.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sorry they announced it in break that

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Speaker 4: it was a safety and then they come back. So

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Speaker 4: first it wasn't a safety. It was just down at

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Speaker 4: the one, intentional grounding down the one. Yeah, then they

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Speaker 4: announced we're in commercial. They announced that it's a safety,

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Speaker 4: and the bills go nuts, and then they say per review,

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Speaker 4: it's not a safety.

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Speaker 3: Sold off off.

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Speaker 5: The field because they said safety.

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Speaker 10: And then they went back, what's a crazy during the

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Speaker 10: break like forty seconds.

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Speaker 2: All right, so in the break because I'm I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm at watching television, So in the break they.

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Speaker 3: Ruled it a safety.

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Speaker 4: So they went from it not being a safety, so

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Speaker 4: it had to have been buzzed down.

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Speaker 5: Hey, actually this is a safety.

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Speaker 4: So they announced it to safety and then literally thirty

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Speaker 4: seconds later like actually no replay says it's not a safety.

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Speaker 10: So there were three different calls, three different calls, and

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Speaker 10: went to break with one, and then during break there

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Speaker 10: were two more calls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah my gosh, yeah, yeah, So who's over ruling it's

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Speaker 2: a great question.

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Speaker 3: The second the safety call.

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Speaker 10: The same guy that wouldn't throw out DK metcalf. I'm kidding,

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Speaker 10: there is no man behind the curtain.

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Speaker 7: I didn't understand it.

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Speaker 5: Court.

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Speaker 4: By the way football, they're not allowed to do anything

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Speaker 4: that became Metcalf in game.

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Speaker 2: Well the other thing on that not that and again

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Speaker 2: but like, did you see the second angle?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't like the first angle.

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Speaker 2: It looks like he does this, and then there's the

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Speaker 2: second angle where he grabs him by the shirt and

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Speaker 2: pulls him down. And apparently this guy's been doing this

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Speaker 2: like this is but I don't know why he lets.

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Speaker 3: Him even get into his headspace. Why why are you?

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Speaker 3: Why are you going over the field?

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Speaker 9: Why are you not?

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Speaker 4: So he said that he saw somebody with a four

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Speaker 4: jersey call him over, and he went over there. And

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Speaker 4: according to the guy, and this is via the Detroit

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Speaker 4: Free Press, the guy said that he called DK by

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Speaker 4: his full government name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this guy's like a comedian guy. He's like

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Speaker 2: supposed this guy, this Detroit guy, who did this.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Some other people i've heard, they've said that there were

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Speaker 4: things I don't know, that the guy's a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a wild man. But nonetheless and that instead of

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Speaker 4: calling him DK, that made him do I don't know.

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Speaker 5: The whole thing just seems bizarre, but not a good idea, No, no, no,

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Speaker 5: not at all, not at all. At least, nobody threw

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Speaker 5: a a beer cup at him.

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Speaker 3: Just thank god. Alice at the Palace Malice Part two.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, when someone called you by your government in the

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Speaker 10: stands in Detroit, Nathan, thank god that you didn't go

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Speaker 10: over there and grab that guy by his hair.

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Speaker 5: I would have been justified. And that was not my

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Speaker 5: government name, Kingsley, I thought it was.

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Speaker 9: I'd have thought it was.

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Speaker 5: You're giving you this story.

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Speaker 9: You could give a name as in kings.

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Speaker 5: My I do know the story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not on his best day.

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Speaker 3: All right, kids?

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Speaker 7: All right, injury update.

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Speaker 11: Like I told you guys, quinch Seawan, he'll get surgery

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Speaker 11: this week up here. Expect him to make full recovery.

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Speaker 11: And like we talked about last night, knowing the kid,

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Speaker 11: he'll he'll bounce back better than ever. So disappointed for him,

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Speaker 11: but he'll He's in good hands and he will bounce back.

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Speaker 11: Like we talked about the game last night, I just

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Speaker 11: felt like in these games versus good football teams, you're

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Speaker 11: going to be in in a battle and you got

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Speaker 11: to come through.

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Speaker 7: In the end, and we did not. That's the frustrating part.

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Speaker 11: Obviously there's good things throughout a game like that, but

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Speaker 11: disappointed to not be able to finish in that fourth

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Speaker 11: quarter based on where we were. But with that, I'll

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Speaker 11: take any questions.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Kevin, did Quinnchan have any knee damage? I thought

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Speaker 12: there's some early reporting that he might be evaluated for there, No, sir, okay.

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Speaker 12: And then with Sugar the completion percentage is much better yesterday,

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Speaker 12: and I know he talked about that a lot last week.

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Speaker 12: What did you see being the key to the improvement there?

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Speaker 11: I think every one of these games are different, Scott,

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Speaker 11: and how you have to play the position and what

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Speaker 11: the what the defense is giving you. It's just so

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Speaker 11: it's so different week to week. I thought he made

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Speaker 11: really good decisions throughout the game. You know, you're going

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Speaker 11: to have your plays that there throws down the field,

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Speaker 11: and if they're not there, you check it down and

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Speaker 11: you can make good yards.

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Speaker 7: So I thought, by large, good decisions.

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Speaker 13: Thanks, hey, Kevin. When Shadeau is analyzing his own performance yesterday,

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Speaker 13: he said that maybe there's times when he should have

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Speaker 13: gotten rid of the ball sooner. Is that one of

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Speaker 13: the more difficult steps for ordered back to making his progress?

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Speaker 11: I think all of it is. It's a process, and

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Speaker 11: you certainly progress with each one of these tests that

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Speaker 11: you get in each one of these moments and defenses

665
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Speaker 11: that you go against. And there are things that every

666
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Speaker 11: single player is working on throughout their season, Techniques that

667
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Speaker 11: they're working on, fundamentals that they're working on. That's no

668
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Speaker 11: different for a young quarterback. I think Shador has made

669
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Speaker 11: strides in a bunch of areas. Are there plays and

670
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Speaker 11: times and things he can do better, Absolutely, and that's

671
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Speaker 11: why he's working. That's why he's working so hard.

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Speaker 13: He is talking in particularly about that fourth and to play.

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Speaker 13: When you watch that back today, did you see that, Yeah,

674
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Speaker 13: maybe he could have gotten throwing the ball held the fan.

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Speaker 11: And we'll learn from every single one of those plays

676
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Speaker 11: and obviously feel good about him in those moments. He'll

677
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Speaker 11: come through. We came up short yesterday as a football team.

678
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Speaker 11: But I have all the faith in the world and

679
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Speaker 11: should do or I have all the faith in the

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Speaker 11: world and our players in those moments.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Kevin, I know you were asked about them last

682
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Speaker 14: night too, but just what does it say that once

683
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Speaker 14: quin Shawn had to leave with that injury, the role

684
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Speaker 14: that travy on It and Rocket were able to step

685
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Speaker 14: into the things they were able to do on the field.

686
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I was really pleased with those guys, and you

687
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Speaker 11: know they've been with us now for you know, Rockets

688
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 11: been with us for a bit here. Obviously got Trevon

689
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Speaker 11: back a couple of weeks back, but he was with us,

690
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 11: So both guys really understand what we're doing with our schemes.

691
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Speaker 11: I thought they both had really good moments. Rocket had

692
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Speaker 11: a couple hard yards in there where he ran between

693
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Speaker 11: the tackles, kept his legs moving. Obviously, Tramion made some

694
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Speaker 11: plays in the past game as well. So we're counting

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Speaker 11: on those guys, and we'll be counting on this week

696
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Speaker 11: as well.

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Speaker 15: Hey, Kevin, since it's day twenty one on DeShawn, just

698
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Speaker 15: any update whether he'll be activated at a roster or

699
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Speaker 15: he just remains on IR the rest of the year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no update today.

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Speaker 11: I believe the window expires tomorrow, Joe, so I'll have

702
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Speaker 11: an update for you guys.

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Speaker 15: Tomorrow, okay, And then just what's the progress on Dylan

704
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Speaker 15: so far and how do you kind of see maybe

705
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Speaker 15: the depth chart on running back shaking out the next

706
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Speaker 15: couple weeks.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Dylan Samson continues to get better by the day.

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Speaker 11: We'll see what that looks like for this week. We'll

709
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Speaker 11: take an information, but feel good about the guys that

710
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Speaker 11: we have and they'll be ready to step up.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 15: And then just last thing, Shador and his scrambling ability

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Speaker 15: and I know he finishes, but just what did you

714
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Speaker 15: think about the scrambles, but also just a peace of

715
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Speaker 15: mind too with taking the slides and everything when it

716
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Speaker 15: was available instead of taking hits.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, those were huge plays in that ballgame.

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Speaker 11: We talked during the week about we thought there may

719
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Speaker 11: be some moments that he'll be able to tucket and.

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Speaker 7: Go, and I thought he did a nice job early.

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Speaker 11: There was the one where kind of bouncing around the pocket,

722
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Speaker 11: had two hands on the ball, then went forward and

723
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Speaker 11: made a huge play. Another time they were playing man

724
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Speaker 11: and everything kind of flushed out in front of him,

725
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Speaker 11: went vertical, made.

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Speaker 7: A huge play.

727
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Speaker 11: So those are very very real yards, a tough dynamic

728
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Speaker 11: for a defense to have to defend the quarterback when

729
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Speaker 11: he tucks it and can go, So that's all part

730
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Speaker 11: of his game obviously. Then you want to make sure

731
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Speaker 11: that your quarterback's being smart at the end of those runs,

732
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Speaker 11: to make sure that he's taking care of himself as well.

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Speaker 16: Kevin, Now that Judkins surgery has been scheduled and this

734
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Speaker 16: injury diagnosed, what is the timetable would he be ready

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Speaker 16: for or training camp or September or Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I don't have an update on that, Tony, I'll update

737
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Speaker 7: you guys.

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Speaker 6: Went appropriate, okay.

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Speaker 16: And the other thing was, even though Shador's completion percentage

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Speaker 16: improved and your third down conversion rate improved, kind.

741
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Speaker 6: Of lost the long ball in all of this.

742
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Speaker 16: So was that by that's a necessity or just the

743
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Speaker 16: way the game went or.

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Speaker 11: What that's Yeah, I think when you watch it, you

745
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Speaker 11: always go into a game understanding the defense that you're

746
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Speaker 11: playing and the things that they do that maybe include

747
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Speaker 11: you from taking some of those plays. Doesn't mean you

748
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Speaker 11: don't call them and take them when they're there, but

749
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Speaker 11: I'd say you have to go into every game understanding

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Speaker 11: that the defense has a plan of attack and have

751
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Speaker 11: to take what they give you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Kevin, wondering what did you see on film in

753
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Speaker 8: regards to some of the batted passes, and then also

754
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Speaker 8: on the first interception that went off Quinn Shun's hands,

755
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Speaker 8: it looked like it was thrown a little bit behind

756
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Speaker 8: him and just wondering if that's how you saw that.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'd say, listen, we're always looking to be as

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Speaker 11: precise as we can in the past game.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes tip balls are a part of this game. Like

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Speaker 7: I mentioned to.

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Speaker 11: You guys yesterday, we have Shelby Harris is outstanding at

762
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Speaker 11: that on our side of seeing when the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: Getting ready to get rid of the ball. So we'll

764
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Speaker 7: learn from those.

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Speaker 11: I think as a coach you always want to teach

766
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Speaker 11: off of those and say what hey, maybe you can

767
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Speaker 11: be better with your eyes, maybe you can be better

768
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Speaker 11: with your feet, those type of things. Maybe it's wait

769
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Speaker 11: for another window to throw it in. But you just

770
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Speaker 11: learn from all those.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Kevin, there's a specific play Shooter was talking about

772
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Speaker 12: after the game. He thought it was on the last

773
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Speaker 12: drive and he said there's a vertical through route and

774
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Speaker 12: then he was going to go to the dagger and

775
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Speaker 12: the mic kind of peeled off, so he didn't throw

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Speaker 12: it there. So first of all, did you see it

777
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Speaker 12: the same way? And then is that just part of

778
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Speaker 12: the whole process because he said then he needed to

779
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Speaker 12: get to check down quicker, but he didn't on that play.

780
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Speaker 12: So you just kind of take me through that. And

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Speaker 12: is that just when you talk about the progress he's

782
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Speaker 12: making this whole rookie season.

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Speaker 11: Is that an example that well, I think you really

784
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Speaker 11: could take every play as a coach and Shador as

785
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Speaker 11: a player. You could take every play and get on

786
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Speaker 11: the board and talk about all of it. And there's

787
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Speaker 11: so much that goes into it. There's so much nuance

788
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 11: that goes into it. And then you got to tip

789
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Speaker 11: your cap. Sometimes the defense makes a play. So those

790
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Speaker 11: situations we will learn from all of us, sharudor all

791
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Speaker 11: of our young players, learning from some of these situations

792
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Speaker 11: that you get put in and learn from the defenses

793
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Speaker 11: you're going against, learn from when it may be time

794
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 11: to throw it away, when it may be time to

795
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 11: take take the underneath play. All those things I think

796
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 11: add up, and certainly late in those ball games, those

797
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 11: are the moments that we're going to learn from so

798
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Speaker 11: we can be better the next time they roll around.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Kevin just wondering what will be a point of

800
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Speaker 8: emphasis for shardor for this week against the Steelers. Will

801
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Speaker 8: it be I mean, I'm sure that protecting the ball

802
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Speaker 8: is always paramount for you guys, But what would you

803
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Speaker 8: say you're going to be looking for in this sixth

804
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Speaker 8: start for him?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's going to be building off of

806
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Speaker 11: all the things that we're doing right now, mary kay,

807
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 11: and the really good things that we're doing. And then

808
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 11: it's going to be a matter of understanding this defense,

809
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 11: this Pittsburgh defense, which is different than the team we

810
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 11: played before. Obviously should order not play in the first

811
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 11: Pittsburgh game, so first time versus that group. So you

812
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Speaker 11: really have to spend a lot of time this week

813
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 11: getting to know this defensive front.

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Speaker 7: They're coverages, those type of things. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: games again will be the three divisional opponents, then Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: New Orleans.

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Speaker 7: There you go.

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Speaker 3: There's your fun.

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Speaker 5: Uh Temple, you might have to come on the road

841
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Speaker 5: this year.

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Speaker 3: Dude, New Orleans would pique my interest.

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00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: I do love that New Orleans, Tampa, and Nashville. I

844
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: could plus the Big Apple. There's absolutely nothing I want

845
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Speaker 4: to do in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 5: I would go to.

847
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Speaker 2: I would go to New Orleans. I could do Temple. Yes,

848
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: Nashville is always fun, and then twice to the Big

849
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Speaker 2: Apple with the Giants and Jets.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'd take this up.

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Speaker 2: This is a solid, solid road slate. It's yeah, you guys,

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Speaker 2: and you're not looking for you guys. No Westies, No,

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00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: no West Coast. He's real quick trip.

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Speaker 5: Now London Jacksonville could be a London game.

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Speaker 9: I think New Orleans could potentially be.

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Speaker 3: That in London. Why would you go back there?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 9: No, like maybe somewhere else over in Europe?

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Speaker 2: Oh, do we know where those locations are? I know Munich,

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Speaker 2: but is there anything.

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Speaker 9: I think there's actually a game in Paris.

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Speaker 3: Gabe Perry, Yeah, Munich would be cool.

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Speaker 5: I'd rather be one of the New York games. I don't

864
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Speaker 5: need to go to New York twice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that, especially last time was we

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Speaker 4: had a great meal with Miss Kaye, but a disaster

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Speaker 4: travel that was in.

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Speaker 5: The midst of the oh yeah, had all that crazy craziness. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: this is good.

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Speaker 3: Don't take New Orleans away from US. No.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty seven will have US in Scottsdale.

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Speaker 3: Oh now you're back.

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Speaker 4: It will have US in Los Angeles for the Chargers,

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Speaker 4: and it will have US West in San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: For the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: All there, yeap, Wow.

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Speaker 9: Peter's are starting saving your money. We're coming for scholarship.

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Speaker 5: That's works.

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Speaker 9: I think you have that.

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00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 5: I think I think he would say, you start saving

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Speaker 5: your money.

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Speaker 9: Gibe.

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Speaker 2: Uh, there you go by the Marque home game non

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Speaker 2: non division none zero There really isn't Houston little Yeah,

885
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: but I mean the division games well, no, the division

886
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: games speak to themselves. But like Indie, Houston, Atlanta, Carolina, Vegas.

887
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: That's Carolina's obviously not Carolina's played.

888
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: But what I mean is no like traditional draws, No,

889
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: San Francisco's, no Green Bays, no Chicago's, no, none of

890
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: those ones that did the You.

891
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 9: Don't have a Buffalo Dallwy.

892
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 4: Seven twenty seven you'll get, I know, from the NFC West.

893
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 5: You'll get the Rams in Seattle. Yeah, Stafford's still kicking.

894
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: Could be dak by them what if they do it

895
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: another way?

896
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: Two more years of Stafford.

897
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: Then you pivot to Dak and how he's just always

898
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: in the business of taking it's like thirty years old,

899
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: and then getting.

900
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: What if that's where Joe Burrow ends up when he

901
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: gets forces his way out of Cincinnati.

902
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 3: Boy, that'd be a spot for him.

903
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 9: It's fine by me.

904
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: It's out of the AF, all right.

905
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: What was your one big takeaway from Saturday or Sunday's games?

906
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: And of course we'll do one thought tomorrow.

907
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: I think that the most stupid, one of the more

908
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: stupifying things I've ever seen, was what happened with Chicago

909
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: on Saturday night and the college football was a disaster.

910
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: Of course it was afternoon games. It's so stupid. Yeah,

911
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: it's not even those group of five teams fault. There

912
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: really aren't. There aren't twelve teams worthy of this. If

913
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: Alabama's not worthy of this, Oklahoma shouldn't be in this,

914
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: None of them should be.

915
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 5: It's it's too many. Was that game It would have

916
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: been a better game.

917
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: For sure, it would have.

918
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: But like, they're not worthy of it either. Bama's got

919
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: three losses. You shouldn't be playing for national title.

920
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 5: With three losses, it's not fine.

921
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was so I was. I was all

922
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: into it. The blood Bobcats one against Montana on Saturday.

923
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 9: Which is a beating.

924
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 5: We were live live texting.

925
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was at a game and I'm like, I

926
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: need you to keep me updated. You were very kind

927
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: and able to do so, so that was good. They

928
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: got some separation.

929
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 5: It was a beating. Well it got a little nervy

930
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 5: and then beating, then a beating.

931
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: It's like a boxing match where you like you you

932
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 4: were about to knock him out. They have a little

933
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 4: flurry of offense and then you just like.

934
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: But too for the Bears to score on a throw

935
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: that the first one before the onside kick, where it

936
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: looked to me like he was throwing it to the

937
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: third row. It's kind of like the catch believable. I

938
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: the original angle of it. I thought he threw it

939
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: out of the stadium and somehow that dude caught it

940
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: and there.

941
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: Was nobody on and that guy is like, who's right?

942
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: And he caught it? And then we're an on side kicks.

943
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: How do you not catch that?

944
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 3: Smokes dude that's talking about the.

945
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 17: Six packers who watched the ball roll by them before.

946
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 17: But that's what they're first to do. The catch like that,

947
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 17: you have one. He was nervous, he was you could

948
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 17: see the even the way you moved.

949
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: Nobody ever recovers those things. And then so to do

950
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: that come about green Bay? Go back to was it

951
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: was it in Seattle?

952
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 7: Oh?

953
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah.

954
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 5: They're haunted by it, they really are.

955
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: So that was that was like the overwhelming and then

956
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: that flip because green Bay never loses in Chicago, and

957
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: even though they didn't have Bryce love they for most

958
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: of the game, they still were there to win it,

959
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: and Chicago stole it and it felt.

960
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: Like a month.

961
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: And in Chicago it's a little bit like us in

962
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty when they won all those close games.

963
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 5: Yep, usually that reverts a little. It's not a year

964
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 5: to year sustained.

965
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: It's definitely not.

966
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 5: They've got the mojo right now.

967
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 7: They do.

968
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that that would have been my number one.

969
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: So my takeaway from uh Saturday is Saturday Night Live.

970
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw they did a oh

971
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: I saw it home alone sketched unbelievable. That is one

972
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: of the funniest, most insanely distur being things ever, but

973
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: also addresses I think a huge plot hole, like we

974
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: didn't see a sea of dismantling of the whole thing,

975
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: and so it would make sense that when they came

976
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: into the house at that point that a lot of

977
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: what he had put in place would have still been

978
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: in place as far as the booby traps go.

979
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 3: How old is Kevin supposed.

980
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 9: To be in that?

981
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: I think was he nine?

982
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 4: I was gonna say between seven and eleven, So nine's

983
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: right in the middle. Kevin McAllister thwarts PESHI the Wet bandits.

984
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 5: All right, he's eight, okay.

985
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So that means that he is almost two years

986
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: younger than Bootsy currently is. While he's doing all the

987
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: booby traps and all of the stuff. Even on the

988
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: one in a billion chance that he could create all

989
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: of that healthscape, there is zero percent chance he's cleaning

990
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: any of it up, any of.

991
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: It, none of it.

992
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: I can't get Bootsy to throw away a wrapper, and

993
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: you're telling me that they're gonna he's gonna clean up carnage.

994
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: He doesn't even know when they're coming back. He is

995
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: no idea like rest. It's not like, oh Mom's coming

996
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: back tomorrow morning. Nobody knows anybody's he's fine. He'd probably

997
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: be sitting there, yes, being.

998
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: Like carnage everywhere, Like is he sleeping he's got obviously,

999
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: Like by the way, like the he just gets he's

1000
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: just staying at home again.

1001
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: Like no ones like, hey, let's find a relative. Nobody right,

1002
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: No cops have come.

1003
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: Kids been through a harrowing experience, like let's get him

1004
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: to a relative.

1005
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 5: No, just go back to go back to bed.

1006
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not seen this.

1007
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 9: He's really on Wednesday, but they didn't show Wednesday night.

1008
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very good.

1009
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 5: That was very That would have been an unbelievable alternate ending. Yeah,

1010
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 5: would have been a little disturbing for children. Well, it's

1011
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 5: also I feel like goes kind of in play.

1012
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. That was great.

1013
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: That was good.

1014
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: It was very good for me.

1015
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 5: Big takeaway Trevor Lawrence.

1016
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: He looked two weeks in a row, like might be

1017
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 2: he looked great last week two the dude.

1018
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 5: That he was supposed to be.

1019
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 4: And if Trevor Lawrence is all of a sudden the

1020
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 4: dude that he was supposed to be, they absolutely can

1021
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 4: win it.

1022
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1023
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely, they were a team. They were the one team

1024
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: that I wasn't sure of. Here's Trevor Lawrence's last. In

1025
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: his last four games, he has thrown for an average

1026
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 4: I'd say probably about two seventy five. He has thrown

1027
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 4: twelve touchdowns, no picks, rushed for two more touchdowns. He's

1028
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 4: been unbelievable. His rating has been one eleven, one, five, seven, fifteen. Yeah,

1029
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 4: these guys playing out of his mind, out of his mind.

1030
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been great. Yeah, Yeah, it was there.

1031
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: There were enough out there, enough fun games out there,

1032
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 2: intermixed with a lot of bad ones. But the top

1033
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: of it was still very very strong. One's six in

1034
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: a row, by the way they have.

1035
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1036
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: The other thing I would say that is a number

1037
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: one take takeaway from me based on what I witnessed

1038
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: Friday night into Saturday by the end of the afternoon,

1039
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: is that the playmaker operates with tiger blood.

1040
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 5: There's okay, that's the proper takeaway from Saturday.

1041
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: There we were chatting, have you did you see Michael

1042
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: Irvin Friday night at the Jake Paul I should call

1043
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 2: it the Anthony Joshua fight.

1044
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 9: He had himself. He had himself a nice little thirty

1045
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 9: six hour stretch.

1046
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what he is sixty years old. If

1047
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: I'm in I'm a man, I'm forty. If I stay

1048
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: up an hour late, it affects me for two days.

1049
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 5: This dude.

1050
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: Is Tony Montana on Friday night in Miami, and then

1051
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: he's Taylor Shared and in College station on on st. Saturday,

1052
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: just dripping sweat, bouncing off things, interrupting coach postgame press conferences.

1053
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 5: Hitting him on his cheek like in the middle of

1054
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 5: the prep post.

1055
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: It was on the live on field interview.

1056
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, dripping sweat.

1057
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: Have you seen clips of him on all fours on

1058
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: the sideline like a rocking like a rabbit dog and be.

1059
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 5: Like he's sixty slat years old.

1060
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: In trash cans or bill I don't know. It was

1061
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: a winebert a bourbon. I don't know what it was

1062
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 4: he was in. Yeah, that just you can't operate.

1063
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 5: He can, he can.

1064
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: It's tiger blood. There's no other way to describe it.

1065
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 5: That's right. It is winning.

1066
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 7: I will.

1067
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 9: I would like to invite him to the night before

1068
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 9: Cincinnati down at O'Malley's in the alley, come live with us.

1069
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if you I respect your

1070
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: ability to handle yourself Gibe.

1071
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if you could hang with him.

1072
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 9: I don't know people who could play on Sunday.

1073
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody.

1074
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 4: We need to have that video in our system so that,

1075
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: like right now, we can just play the video from

1076
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: when I got to talk to him in La so

1077
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: that it's ready.

1078
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 5: It's ready, so you can just hear him cut that

1079
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 5: pro just hear him cut it.

1080
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: Unbelievable in the middle of the locker room. I will

1081
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: say this. The cameraman on Texas A and M Miami knew

1082
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 2: what they were doing. There were several little Easter eggs,

1083
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Speaker 2: if you will, for the people.

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Speaker 5: For the people was bus Burger directing it?

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Time for your great clips. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be great call of the game, heroes. Here is Harold

1106
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 2: Fannon Junior's thirteen yarder from Shaudure.

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Speaker 18: Eighth play of the drive, Browns first and ten. On

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00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 18: the thirteen the Bills Fannin motions into the backfield. Shouldre

1109
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 18: play fake rolls out to the right. Shoudre throws on

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00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 18: the ron. Fannin has it touchedown touchdown Browns right down

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00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 18: the field. Shouldre Sanders thirteen yard scored a Harold Fannit

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Speaker 18: at its six.

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00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 5: Nothing put that.

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00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 4: Opening script in a frame because it was absolutely perfect

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00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 4: for Tommy Reese right there. They had the Bills in

1116
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: a blender using misdirection, the double reverse, the play.

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00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 5: Action boot leg.

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00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 4: What an efficient start, one of the best offensive drives

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00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: I think we've seen this year from the Cleveland Browns.

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00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 5: As they get down and into the end zone.

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00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 4: Eight plays sixty nine yards or four for four thirty

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00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: seven and a touchdown fan and two for twenty four

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Speaker 4: and the score.

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Speaker 18: My voice cracked there a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, it's a beautiful thing.

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00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: Excitement that was I heard that one in we were

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00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 2: just leaving and I heard that That call is the

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Speaker 2: one that I heard as I was I was leaving out.

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00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: It was the tat call of that script. And I

1130
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: went and reback and watched it, and it is. It

1131
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: was a It was picture perfect. It was It was

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00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: every possible way that anything you'd want to drive to

1133
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: look like a start a game.

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00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: It was just easy, you know, and we really we

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00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: didn't have another third down after the first one, and

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00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 4: that very the early opening sequence and just incredible. And

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00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 4: that was showed kind of what we can do on schedule,

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00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 4: what we can do in the flow, and it says that,

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00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 4: you know, they put together a perfect plan for the

1140
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: Bills defense. Now things Obviously the Bills were able to

1141
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 4: stiffen up, and the sad part was when the Browns

1142
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: had a chance, I think really to kind of get

1143
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 4: rolling in this game.

1144
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 5: That's the Bill's first three drives all were.

1145
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: Touchdowns, and they're all long drives and you know, explosive drives,

1146
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: and so you'd never got the opportunity to really go

1147
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: in there and take care of business the way that

1148
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 4: you wanted to. But that was a great, great start.

1149
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: Should or look completely in control, and that's the thing

1150
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: that's where I'm at right now. And what I like

1151
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 4: about it is that you know he is in control

1152
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: at times, and you're seeing progress in terms of understanding

1153
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 4: and operating this offense. And so I really think that,

1154
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 4: you know, you only have two more games, a tough,

1155
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 4: a tough Steelers game, and then I think the Bengals

1156
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: game could be a lot of fun, could be a

1157
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: lot of fireworks if we can, you know, try to

1158
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: go a little toe for toe with them score in

1159
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: the football. But you've seen some good things. You want

1160
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 4: to see more. We got to take care of football.

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00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: I think he really has to work on kind of

1162
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 4: as I said, those arm angles on those kind of

1163
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 4: short passes around the defensive line, because that's gotten him

1164
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: into some troubles.

1165
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 5: But that opening drive was it was beautiful.

1166
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 7: Yeah it was.

1167
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 5: John Keats said, what's that?

1168
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 7: Do you know what?

1169
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 5: John Keats said, No, not in this point of reference,

1170
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 5: I don't. A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

1171
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 5: John Keats said that, John Keats, that's my man, you

1172
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 5: know that right? You don't know that white man can't jump.

1173
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: I have not seen white men can't jump, I would

1174
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: say in uh, probably thirty years.

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00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: That's it's never on.

1176
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: Wesley Snipe's sidekick, who was in I want to say,

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00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 4: A Different World.

1178
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 5: Is that what that show is called?

1179
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, that guy is yeah with the flip.

1180
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 5: Up when he hits the shot, and oh yeah yeah.

1181
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: The thing of beauty is a joy forever. John Keats

1182
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 5: said that Keats, that's what.

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00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: Keats, that's what man. No, that's one that I have

1184
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: not seen that. When's the last time you saw it?

1185
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 7: Not?

1186
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 5: I that line though, as always that you always have

1187
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 5: that inanity. Love that line.

1188
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah you never, you never. That movie's never in. It's never.

1189
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 5: I wonder why, because I've seen it. It's fed to me

1190
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 5: on a stream.

1191
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: We're talking about it now, so I will be fed

1192
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: to us, But like I haven't seen stream, I haven't

1193
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: seen it on cable.

1194
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 5: SPEs is great.

1195
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Woody's phenomenal as the flawed the hero. You've got

1196
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 4: a bunch of great bigcare and then Rosie Press is.

1197
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: Like really is and also abundantly clear that Woody Harrelson

1198
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: would wipe the floor with Wesley Snipes and basketball. Wesley

1199
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: of Wesley Snipes might be the worst basketball playing basketball

1200
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: player since Michael J.

1201
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 3: Fox and Team Wolf.

1202
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 5: Well, a lot and a lot of the stuff that's

1203
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 5: in there is not him.

1204
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: It's not him.

1205
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: No, no.

1206
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: When he has to shoot it though, and it's on him,

1207
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: and the way he shoots, you're like, yeah.

1208
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 5: No, wood he doesn't have a pretty shot, but he

1209
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 5: could tell. It's kind of like it.

1210
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: I think he's like the Sandman. I think he's like

1211
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: the Sandman. I think he probably played a lot. And

1212
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: that the other thing that was beautiful about that age shorts,

1213
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: I think what was beautiful about guys that age and

1214
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: you know, guys our age. We're a little younger than

1215
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: those cats, but like nobody like fixed your shot, you shot,

1216
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: how you shot, you shout how you shot. Now all

1217
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: the kids have basically the same shot because it's the

1218
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: same amount of people who are who are.

1219
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 5: Who are teaching it, and so it's all looks the same.

1220
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 4: But back then you could every bird shot was totally unique.

1221
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: Bill cart right at a crazy one Duckworth.

1222
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, lots lots of crazy ones.

1223
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 4: Here, good shooters had, like Reggie Miller shot is no

1224
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 4: more of a cross today than they have you now?

1225
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, yeah, Now everything's aligned and it's everything's

1226
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: the step shot.

1227
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1228
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: That that kind of changed all.

1229
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 5: Of a lot stuff.

1230
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. One NFL update from the day. The Chiefs have

1231
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: a late afternoon press conference and announcing their move to

1232
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: the state of Kansas. So Kansas City is on the

1233
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: border Missouri and Kansas. I'm not as familiar with that area,

1234
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: driven through it once. It's right on the border.

1235
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 3: It's right on the border.

1236
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 4: On the O City, and I know, like the Kansas

1237
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 4: City Chiefs, it feels to me like even though Kansas

1238
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: City can be in Missouri, it should be in Kansas.

1239
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 5: Pretty wild that they didn't just make Kansas City in

1240
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 5: Kansas feels like they should have probably should.

1241
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: Have just done it that way. Mike my whole New youth.

1242
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: I assumed it was, of course, yeah, I assumed that

1243
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: it was.

1244
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 4: That would be like saying that we were like the

1245
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 4: Nevada city something, but it was actually in California.

1246
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 5: Like, what do you mean? Why is it not in

1247
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 5: Why is it not in Nevada?

1248
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: All right?

1249
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 5: Oklahoma City is in Oklahoma? New York continues to be in.

1250
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 3: Missouri is in New York. Yes, absolutely, that's the one.

1251
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 5: How many states?

1252
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: How many cities are there that are named the state

1253
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: name city?

1254
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: There's probably more than There's a Montana city, but it's tiny.

1255
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: There's an Ohio city obviously, right, more a neighborhood.

1256
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 5: But I'm talking for like a big, big city.

1257
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: It's not many. You don't see it very often.

1258
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 5: It's being the other state. It is called the Missouri city.

1259
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, get it right.

1260
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 5: Problem solved. We got a Monday night or tonight. We

1261
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 5: will get to that.

1262
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,080
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Speaker 3: We got a Monday night er.

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00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, by the way, we were on the cusp of

1275
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 5: having a big week.

1276
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: It was right there.

1277
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 5: It was right there.

1278
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 4: Really, the the Green Bay Chicago one was that you

1279
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 4: felt you felt good about that the whole time.

1280
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 5: But we saw have a chance of posters.

1281
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 4: We have a chance to get to ten wins each Yeah,

1282
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 4: this week with the Niners nor.

1283
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 9: My day.

1284
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 4: I was so pumped to get the hot beef too,

1285
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 4: so pumped, like pretty jacked over the moon.

1286
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see this.

1287
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 5: Like I can't wait to call you, tell me out.

1288
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 5: I've never cooked wag you before. I got them, Like

1289
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 5: he's all jacked up. Niners, huge agreed Niners.

1290
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: Ram, I think they smoke them. You're starting at quarterback

1291
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: for Indianapolis Philip Rivers. It's unbelievable.

1292
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 9: If I'm correct too, loses the Chargers, the Bills, and

1293
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 9: I think the Jags all get in tonight. There's like

1294
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 9: three teams that are in if the Colts lose Man.

1295
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: So the television networks are praying that Phil Rivers can

1296
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: somehow handle it, yeah and find a way to get

1297
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: a win. It's actually he's not going to get hit

1298
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: because he gets it out well. But they don't pass

1299
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: rush either, so he's not going to get hit. But

1300
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: they're also they can't make a play down the field.

1301
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: So and the way that the Niners offense is humming

1302
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: right now, I'm with you.

1303
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: I think I think the Niners go comfortable, comfortable comfort

1304
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: in this one.

1305
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: So that will be uh, you have that one tonight

1306
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: to look forward to, and then we're onto uh Steelers

1307
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: week around here and and an NFL last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 9: We have availability tomorrow.

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00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: What was that Tomorrow?

1310
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 9: Everything moves up that way they can have Thursday off.

1311
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice, yes, nice?

1312
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 5: This week bring me kabaliya.

1313
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 4: Boy, you want kalib we get talk wrestling.

1314
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: Here you go.

1315
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 9: I can try great.

1316
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: So both of us are on the Niners.

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00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,240
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Speaker 2: And welcome into the Joe Thomas half hour of the program.

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Speaker 2: Here Best the Great Hoff has joined us. He is

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Speaker 2: the Meet Santa. He has meat sticks for everybody, and

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Speaker 2: he joins us.

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Speaker 5: Now Meet Sanna is delivered.

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Speaker 2: Meets is delivered in a big there's meat offs that

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Speaker 2: are happening and winning winning overwhelmingly saying it's too much winning.

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Speaker 5: It's too much winning, it's so much, so much winning.

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Speaker 2: It's all dubs from Hall of Fame beef and unfortunately

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about it win.

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Speaker 3: But I did want to.

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm gliss.

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Speaker 3: We can do it the best we can. It's a

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Speaker 3: Monday going into a holiday.

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Speaker 2: I do think this is the takeaway from the biggest

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Speaker 2: takeaway from me from this game is what happened to

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Speaker 2: Quinn shot and you've been in those spots. And I

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Speaker 2: am always in awe of how you guys, when you

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Speaker 2: have something like that happen, can play the next play.

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Speaker 5: And I guess you're just conditioned to it. But it's

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Speaker 5: a remarkable thing.

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Speaker 2: How do you handle as a professional athlete when you

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Speaker 2: see something that horrific and then in thirty seconds you

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Speaker 2: got to go play.

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Speaker 6: It's really challenging. It's one of the hardest parts of

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Speaker 6: playing football, but it's something that you've been trained since

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Speaker 6: the day you started playing. And actually, it's funny you

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Speaker 6: mentioned that because the week after I retired, or I

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Speaker 6: was done playing before I retired, but my career was

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Speaker 6: basically over at that point. Didn't know it, but it was.

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Speaker 6: And I wrote an article with Monday Mo Quarterback, which

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Speaker 6: I'm not even sure if they're around anymore, but and

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Speaker 6: the article was titled move the drill because from the

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Speaker 6: moment you start playing football, what happens, right you're doing

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Speaker 6: nine on seven, you're one on one pass pro somebody

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Speaker 6: goes down bad injury. Everyone's looking at him. Everybody has

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Speaker 6: that feeling in their stomach of oh no, I hope

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Speaker 6: he's okay, what's going on? Trainers are going over there,

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Speaker 6: and instead of you know, doing the humanity thing that

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Speaker 6: you normally do on the playground, everyone gathers around. Hey,

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Speaker 6: are you okay? Let me help you out. What is

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Speaker 6: the coach bark? He blows the whistlep bit, move the

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Speaker 6: drill and you just move over. And then life goes

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Speaker 6: on and the game keeps going, the train keeps going

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Speaker 6: down the tracks, and it's the cold, hard reality of

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Speaker 6: the game of football. But it's something that you learn

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Speaker 6: at a very early age that hey, you know what,

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Speaker 6: when we line back up and the next play starts,

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Speaker 6: you got to be able to wipe everything that happened

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Speaker 6: before then, and you got to give all the focus

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Speaker 6: that you have in your body and your mind on

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Speaker 6: that next play, because you know what, there's a lot

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Speaker 6: of lives on the line again when we go and

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Speaker 6: play this violent game on the very next step up.

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Speaker 6: And so I think it is something that you do

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Speaker 6: learn very early in the game of football. It's never easy.

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Speaker 6: And certainly seeing one of your young stars and Quinchan

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Speaker 6: laying there in a lot of pain, and they didn't

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Speaker 6: even show the replay. Zee, I'm not sure if you

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Speaker 6: saw the replay back yet from the TV copy, but

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Speaker 6: they wouldn't even show it because they said it was

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Speaker 6: so bad. So I still haven't seen what happened. I

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Speaker 6: guess I don't really need to, uh after no, just

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Speaker 6: hearing the report, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean from where I was in the booths because the

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Speaker 4: play was going on, and I was just kind of

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Speaker 4: looking at quinche On and you said earlier, like when

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Speaker 4: you see him kind of hit the ground, and I

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Speaker 4: kind of looked at his leg and I think I said,

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Speaker 4: oh God on the broad because I go his foot

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Speaker 4: is pointed the wrong way, and so I knew at

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Speaker 4: that point that that was not going to be a

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Speaker 4: good outcome. And it's it's brutal. I mean, we watched,

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Speaker 4: we talked so much. We love that Cowboys documentary so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and they show the clip of wasn't it Jimmy Johnson

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Speaker 4: when the guy got hurt. He's like, get him off

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Speaker 4: my field.

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Speaker 3: Get him off my field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, You're just like, it's just it's savage, but he goes.

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Speaker 4: I think it would just be hard in a moment

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Speaker 4: like that where you see something like that, and we

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Speaker 4: had it unfortunately with Nick Chubb and Pittsburg where it

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Speaker 4: was just one of those where everybody immediately knows, like

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Speaker 4: because you can look at it, you're like, this if

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Speaker 4: not how the anatomy works, I don't. I'm not surprised

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Speaker 4: that people can get in line up and play it's all.

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Speaker 4: What's amazing to me is that there isn't a change

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Speaker 4: in the style of play, because it would I'd imagine

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Speaker 4: what makes you confront your football mortality in such a

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Speaker 4: real way that you'd be thinking, Man, I got to

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Speaker 4: protect myself with the second. I've heard you and countless

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Speaker 4: others say it, if you play to not get hurt,

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Speaker 4: that's when you get hurt.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, you have to play one hundred percent and give

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Speaker 6: everything you've got on every play, because it's when you're

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Speaker 6: not doing that that the pile's falling on the back

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Speaker 6: of your legs because you're not moving your man out

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Speaker 6: of the hole, or you're not going all in on

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Speaker 6: that tackle. You're kind of, you know, pretty battering the

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Speaker 6: feet and getting ready to try to make a careful tackle,

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Speaker 6: and then somebody else comes and flies in there, and

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Speaker 6: then you get hit and you're not bracing and you're

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Speaker 6: also your mind is not moving at the speed it

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Speaker 6: needs to when you're not playing at full speed, right,

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Speaker 6: you need your reactions your mind to be able to

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Speaker 6: be able to absorb everything that's happening around you and

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Speaker 6: make these ultra lightning quick reactions to be able to

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Speaker 6: avoid injuries that happen on every play. Like how many

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Speaker 6: times are you seeing a guy who's just about to

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Speaker 6: get his legs knocked out from under him and the

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Speaker 6: cleat pops up and he twists his body in the

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Speaker 6: right direction. I mean, you subconsciously do that as a

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Speaker 6: football player, and it's just those skills that you've learned

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Speaker 6: throughout the years on how to protect yourself, and you're

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Speaker 6: not even thinking about it, and it has to happen

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Speaker 6: at such a quick little interval that the only way

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Speaker 6: you can do that is if you're playing at full

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Speaker 6: speed and your brain is moving as fast as it

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Speaker 6: possibly can to be able to avoid those things over

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Speaker 6: and over again. But I think it's the beauty of

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Speaker 6: how the brain works. You know, the great Bob Wiley

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Speaker 6: taught me a lot about the neurons and the connections

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Speaker 6: that you're making. And for your entire football career. It

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Speaker 6: happens in practice. You play a play, you go back

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Speaker 6: to the hoddle immediately snap in as soon as that

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Speaker 6: quarterback walks into theuddle, and he tells you that play,

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Speaker 6: and you're thinking about what did he say, What do

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Speaker 6: I need to do? What do I need to prepared for?

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Speaker 6: And what is the defense potentially going to do to

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Speaker 6: me that could change what I have to do? And

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Speaker 6: so I think it's just that process, in that routine

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Speaker 6: that you've done so many times in your life that

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Speaker 6: allows you to get back in the huddle and then

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Speaker 6: play the game the exact same way you did, even

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Speaker 6: though your brother just experienced a very very graphic injury

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Speaker 6: that ended his season and you're saying, well, crap, what

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Speaker 6: if that happens to me? But you can't have that mentality.

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Speaker 6: And I think it's it's one of the challenging things,

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Speaker 6: but it's one of the things that define you as

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Speaker 6: a professional football player.

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Speaker 4: And I know that the next evolution for the NFL

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Speaker 4: is to go to eighteen games. How are we going

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Speaker 4: to keep this league going in the back half of seasons?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you look at the injuries we're gonna as

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Speaker 4: it goes into this week, and maybe maybe Dylan Samson

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Speaker 4: will be okay, but we're going to go into this

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Speaker 4: week with you know, a running back that we just

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Speaker 4: signed two weeks ago, and Rockett Sanders who was an

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Speaker 4: undrafted free agent that we got from the Charge who

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Speaker 4: played in Week one and hadn't played since. We've got

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Speaker 4: cornerbacks that are playing on our team right now off

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Speaker 4: the streets. We literally have defensive tackles who are off

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Speaker 4: the streets. And the Chargers saw Mohurston there and Aiden

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Speaker 4: Huntington and Mason Graham and Shelby on the sideline. They're like,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna go hurry up so you can't sub yep,

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Speaker 4: and they ran right up the middle literally five I

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Speaker 4: think it was like five plays in a row, and

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Speaker 4: it was the parting of the seas. We've got quarterback

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Speaker 4: matchups now where we have. I don't know how many

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Speaker 4: teams are onto their third quarterback. I know we're technically

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Speaker 4: onto our third quarterback, but kind of by choice more

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Speaker 4: than by necessity. But you're gonna have in Kansas City

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Speaker 4: who was going to miss the payoffs, they're gonna be

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Speaker 4: playing their third quarterback. You're at the third quarterback with Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: You've got you know, the Christmas Day slate, we were

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Speaker 4: talking about the quarterback matchups.

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Speaker 5: There isn't one.

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Speaker 4: There isn't one game where both teams still have their

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Speaker 4: starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: No, no, look at what I mean.

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Speaker 2: The Lions team that was out there last night. Oh,

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Speaker 2: their defense is and that's two years in a row

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Speaker 2: for them. I just don't understand. I mean, it's too

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Speaker 2: much off. It's too much, it's too much. Too many injuries, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I mean every team across the league

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Speaker 2: thinking the same thing.

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Speaker 6: You know. I was talking to my buddy at church

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Speaker 6: the other days, a Vikings fan. He's telling me about

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Speaker 6: all the injuries they got, you know, the Bears, Like,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't matter who you are. At this point of

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Speaker 6: the season, you're really banged up. And unfortunately, you add

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Speaker 6: more games, you're gonna have more injuries. And this was

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Speaker 6: one of the things that they talked about with the

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Speaker 6: last CBA when we were talking about going to seventeen

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Speaker 6: and eighteen games. Is like having legit load management, where

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Speaker 6: you have eighteen games and you have to pick which

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Speaker 6: sixteen your guys are gonna play. I hate that approach.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's good for the game. But I

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Speaker 6: think it's pretty clear that more games is more revenue,

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Speaker 6: and that's the direction the ownership wants to go. And

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Speaker 6: I just don't know how you have a good product

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Speaker 6: at the end of the season with the number of

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Speaker 6: injuries you just get playing football. It's just the nature

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Speaker 6: of the game.

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Speaker 4: Do you think And this is just me like thinking

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Speaker 4: out loud, because at the end of the day, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna go to eighteen.

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Speaker 5: Heck, at this point, why not just go to twenty?

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Speaker 4: And just hear me out when I say this, because

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Speaker 4: the preseason games are kind of wastes in some sense,

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Speaker 4: now sure, and like would it matter to the boy

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Speaker 4: if you knew and they have enough teams in the

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Speaker 4: league to be able to do this where we saw

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Speaker 4: that in the week where you had six teams on

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Speaker 4: a bye, you had Thursday window, you had I think

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Speaker 4: a Saturday, a Sunday, a Monday. You can still get

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Speaker 4: enough stuff. You had three on Thanksgiving. We get three

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Speaker 4: games on Thursday and games on Saturday, games on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: a game on Monday. But where you play would it

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Speaker 4: matter to your body if you were if you knew

1535
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 4: after every five games that you got a week off

1536
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 4: as opposed to going you know, eight one, eight or

1537
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 4: eight one nine. You know, kind of like we did

1538
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 4: this year that if everybody in the league was like

1539
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 4: five weeks on and you could kind of stagger it,

1540
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 4: but five weeks on and you could have sixteen teams

1541
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: off one week, so everybody, No, you'd never played more

1542
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: than six games at a time, five or six games

1543
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 4: week off, five or six games week off, five or

1544
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 4: six games week off and then the final five into

1545
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 4: the playoffs.

1546
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 5: Would that help the body or.

1547
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 4: Is it just it's actually the number of actual games

1548
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 4: that matter more than the rest. Getting natural breaks every quarter,

1549
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 4: I think.

1550
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 6: It would help the mind a little bit, knowing that,

1551
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 6: like you're kind of playing little segments of the season

1552
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 6: and then you're always getting a break. I think it

1553
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 6: would help with the nagging injuries, you know, like the hamstrings,

1554
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 6: the soft issues, those things that you can kind of

1555
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 6: come back from in a few weeks or hey, if

1556
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 6: you give yourself a little bit more time, right, you're

1557
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 6: going to be back to almost one hundred percent and

1558
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 6: then you're not going to reinjure it. But I think

1559
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 6: the biggest issue is just those catastrophic injuries like what

1560
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 6: we saw with quin Sean Right. It's those injuries where

1561
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 6: the season's over bang right there. That add up the

1562
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 6: most towards the end of the season, because you know,

1563
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 6: a couple happened in Week one, and then you have

1564
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 6: a couple maybe towards the middle quarter of the season,

1565
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, it just adds up

1566
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 6: and all your stars are banged up. But I think

1567
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 6: really the better approach rather than going to eighteen games,

1568
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 6: and this is something that I've been advocating for a

1569
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 6: long time because I think it's good for the players,

1570
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 6: it's good for the fans, and you know, it makes

1571
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 6: more money for the league, is instead of adding more games,

1572
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 6: let's add two bye weeks that are for everybody, and

1573
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 6: it's staggered like you mentioned, so you actually have more

1574
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 6: weeks of football your team and your players don't have

1575
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 6: to play more games, but you just extend the season

1576
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 6: by another week or two because you do throw those

1577
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 6: bye weeks in there. And players love it. Hey, we

1578
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 6: get paid in our bye week. That's a good thing, right.

1579
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 6: The league's loving it, the networks are loving it because

1580
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 6: they're getting more weeks of football, but you're not actually

1581
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 6: putting more games out there where you're going to have

1582
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 6: more of these season ending ir type injuries.

1583
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: That's good idea.

1584
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just feels like you're getting the last couple

1585
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 2: of weeks here where it is rough putting these matchups together,

1586
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: and some of these games, some of these teams that

1587
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 2: are being trotted out there, they're just such a shell

1588
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 2: of what they were intended to be. And it's the

1589
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: survival of the try to stay and field a team

1590
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: and go play a game in the National football It

1591
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: did not seem like it's good. Let's talk a little

1592
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 2: bit about this game on Sunday aside from the quinche

1593
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: on part of it. It featured and I was listening

1594
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: on the call with you and Andrew z as we

1595
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: were on our way back from basketball, and I think

1596
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: you were right. I went and watched it. It's the

1597
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: best drive that we've had all year. Was the opening

1598
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: drive of this game. It was sensational. It's kind of

1599
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 2: everything that you wanted. Inevitably, Buffalo was able to hold sway.

1600
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: When you watch a game like hoff, how do you

1601
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 2: define success for this Browns team on a given Sunday

1602
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 2: like the one we had yesterday.

1603
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 6: Well, a little bit of staying healthy, which unfortunately we

1604
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 6: weren't able to do. But specifically thinking about, all right,

1605
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 6: what are the things we're trying to accomplish down the stretch, right,

1606
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 6: we want guys to play hard, we want guys to

1607
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 6: make improvement and general improvement from a performance standpoint, but

1608
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 6: also growth as a player, right, and growth within the system.

1609
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 6: And I think you saw that from Shador. I think

1610
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 6: it was really exciting watching him complete the first eight

1611
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 6: passes and that first drive going down, scoring that touchdown,

1612
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 6: making good decisions, showing some toughness through that pinky injury,

1613
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 6: showing mobility, the ability to say, like, I'm going to

1614
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 6: make a play here, I'm going to get this first

1615
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 6: down with my legs. Like that was all really really good,

1616
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 6: and I think it gave you a lot of reasons

1617
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 6: for hope watching Shador, because when you think about, all right,

1618
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 6: what does the first drive of the game mean to me,

1619
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 6: it usually means all right, like, how good was our

1620
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 6: game plan and how good were we with figuring out

1621
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 6: the tendencies of what the defense is going to show

1622
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 6: up at the beginning of the game and how do

1623
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 6: we attack it? Right? But then it's also like, what

1624
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 6: was my quarterback able to take from the meetings and

1625
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 6: the practice during the week and apply it to game

1626
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 6: day because basically this is the second or third time

1627
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 6: you're going through this script and this drive. It's the

1628
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 6: first time, of course against the opponent and playing live football,

1629
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 6: but you're doing this several times during the week, including

1630
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,440
Speaker 6: the day before the game, where you're getting an opportunity

1631
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 6: to walk through, to jog through what you're going to see.

1632
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 6: And I think it's a great indicator of an ability

1633
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 6: to learn, to be able to apply what you're taking

1634
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 6: from film and from practice and showing it up on Sundays.

1635
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 6: And so that was a really really bright sign for

1636
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 6: me when I saw that opening drive with Shador. I

1637
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 6: saw the great accuracy completing all those passes in a

1638
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 6: row and the decision making. So I think optimistically it

1639
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 6: was a really really nice step in the right direction

1640
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 6: for Shador in that sense. And really, I mean, other

1641
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 6: than Miles getting the sack record, which is why all

1642
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 6: Browns fans are still cheering and they're still interested, Like,

1643
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 6: we want to see Chador develop. We want him to

1644
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 6: be able to grab that job as the starting quarterback

1645
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 6: for next year and then start to build around him.

1646
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 6: But he's got to prove it and he's got to

1647
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 6: show that steady improvement like he did this week.

1648
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 4: How do you deal with And I think as the

1649
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 4: game went on for Shador, where it became very difficult,

1650
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 4: especially in obvious passing situations, is that they were consistently

1651
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 4: able to get home with four and the tackles were

1652
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 4: having a really difficult time with Joey Bosa and Greg

1653
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 4: Russeau and so now you've got seven in coverage. They

1654
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 4: were clearly taking away the deep ball. I mean, they

1655
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 4: were too high a lot of this game. And I

1656
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 4: just feel like it got tough for Shador. What what's

1657
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 4: going on with our tackle play? Because right now it

1658
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 4: feels like that to me? Is you know as you

1659
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 4: look into next year and say, got two ones? Yeah,

1660
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 4: I think Shador's shown at least enough that you could

1661
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 4: say to yourself, let's give it a year and see

1662
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 4: what it really looks like. If we do everything we

1663
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 4: can catered for him, he gets every rep because we

1664
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 4: need we need tackles, we need receive yep, we need

1665
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. But what were you seeing from

1666
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 4: our tackles because I thought it was a very tough,

1667
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 4: tough performance.

1668
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, they're just too soft on the edges and when

1669
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 6: you're collapsing the pocket from the outside like that. There's

1670
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 6: just no space to move within the pocket. And you

1671
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 6: mentioned the coverage. When you're getting home with four, you

1672
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 6: got a lot of dudes in coverage. There's not a

1673
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 6: lot of space, there's not a lot of windows, there's

1674
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 6: not a lot of like easy throws, easy completions, and

1675
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 6: Chadur just doesn't have that comfort level, I think, just

1676
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 6: yet to be able to throw it in there in

1677
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 6: a tight window. You know, we saw it a little

1678
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 6: bit at the beginning of the game, but I think

1679
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 6: a lot of times you end up seeing that check down,

1680
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 6: which is a good answer if they are playing a

1681
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 6: lot of coverage and you don't feel great about forcing

1682
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 6: the ball down the field, but you know they're going

1683
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 6: to start taking that away too, and so you got

1684
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 6: to find different ways to attack them. But when your

1685
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 6: tackles are getting pushed back, your pocket's compressed. Now your

1686
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 6: quarterback who maybe is going to want to try to

1687
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 6: find some space and escape and do the playmaking things

1688
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 6: that Chadur has shown in college that made him a

1689
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 6: fan favorite and that he's shown here in his short

1690
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 6: time in Cleveland. But it's really hard to do that

1691
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 6: because there's no space like your guards. We always say

1692
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 6: the guards are responsible for the firmness of the front

1693
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 6: of the pocket for a quarterback to be able to

1694
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 6: step up, and then the tackles are responsible for the

1695
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 6: width of the pocket and the death. And so if

1696
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 6: you don't have that width and the death, you're in

1697
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 6: trouble because everything squeezes down really really fast, and unless

1698
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 6: you're a Josh Allen six' sixth, guy that's really hard

1699
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 6: to take. Down there's really not a whole lot of

1700
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 6: operation space in, there and you're putting them behind the

1701
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 6: eight ball to try to throw the ball against the

1702
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 6: defense like that when your protection is so.

1703
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 4: Soft they did a pretty good JO i, MEAN i

1704
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 4: thought he made some plays with his legs that were

1705
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 4: excellent and even got out of some where you thought

1706
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 4: for sure that play when he was going down and

1707
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 4: he got out of.

1708
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 2: IT i just think it's so hard BECAUSE i, mean

1709
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 2: he took some bad, sacks you, know towards the.

1710
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: End it's hard to.

1711
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: Know, LIKE i just think it's very difficult to evaluate

1712
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: these guys these time of years and these type of

1713
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: circumstances because none of it clean right that the protection isn't.

1714
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: CLEAN i mean just, LOOK i, mean the chief hasn't

1715
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: played in, forever like you don't have what you now nobody.

1716
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,560
Speaker 2: Does but you're trying to make decisions like franchise decisions

1717
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 2: at the most important position in all of, sport and

1718
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: we've got this runway of games to watch him. Play

1719
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: and it's, like, boy how do you? KNOW i, mean

1720
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: that's not our no, teller, NO i know going same

1721
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: thing is going on with Like Jackson dart with The,

1722
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: giants like they don't have.

1723
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 3: Anybody, either.

1724
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 2: Nobody IT'S i don't know how you can identify if

1725
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: a kid's doing something well or not in THIS.

1726
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 4: I think he's shown enough the. GLIMPSES i think you're

1727
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 4: looking for. GLIMPSES i think it's gonna be hard to

1728
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 4: maintain it for sixty. Minutes BUT i thought we saw

1729
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 4: some glimpses in here that we're that were pretty.

1730
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 6: Good you're grading everything on a. CURVE i, mean unless

1731
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 6: you're in those meeting, rooms you don't know what the

1732
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 6: coaching is From Kevin stefanski To. Shador you don't know

1733
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 6: what it's like from the offensive, coordinator quarterback. Coach but

1734
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 6: those are the things that he'll be evaluated on, right

1735
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 6: and us as, fans we have no, idea but they

1736
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 6: know in those meetings, like, hey this is what we

1737
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 6: asked him to, do this is where we wanted his

1738
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 6: eyes to, be this is where we were asking his.

1739
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 6: Footwork and if the pocket's collapsing and he's not able

1740
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 6: to get to his second or third read and the

1741
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 6: first read is not, open and the defense and the

1742
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 6: secondary is closing those windows tightly Like buffalo, Does like

1743
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 6: you just have to grade him on basically what you've

1744
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 6: told him to. Do and we talked about this a week.

1745
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 6: Ago it is. Tough there's not a lot of easy

1746
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 6: things and easy throws out there when you're not getting

1747
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 6: the protection you. Need but you just have to look at, all,

1748
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 6: right what do we ask him to? Do and then

1749
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 6: was he able to do that until the point that

1750
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 6: the pocket broke? Down AND i think without being in that,

1751
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 6: room it's hard to know, exactly BUT i think he

1752
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 6: did a great job of. IT i, mean it seems

1753
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 6: like other than those things that you, mentioned you, know

1754
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 6: starting to take, sacks which really is more of in my,

1755
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 6: opinion like he didn't feel comfortable throwing into tight. Windows

1756
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 6: there was no easy answers to throw the football down the,

1757
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 6: field and so he was really sort of in that

1758
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 6: tough moment where he didn't really know exactly what to.

1759
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 6: Do and then typically you do fall back on some

1760
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 6: of those bad habits of trying to escape out of

1761
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 6: the back of the pocket or holding onto it too.

1762
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 6: Long but it's a tough situation when you're trying to

1763
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 6: come back from a, deficit right you need to make some.

1764
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 6: Plays so holding onto the ball sometimes is the right

1765
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 6: answer in those situations because you've got to find a

1766
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 6: way to extend the play and throw the football down the,

1767
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 6: field and if it's not available within the pocket and

1768
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 6: then your pocket. Collapses you, know you can't really put

1769
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 6: the blame solely on him for taking those sacks because it's, like,

1770
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 6: well did you want me to throw the interception nobody was,

1771
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 6: open or did you want me to try to make a?

1772
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 6: Play WHICH i did and you, know Unfortunately i'm Not

1773
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 6: Michael vick back, there BUT i did my best and

1774
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 6: it didn't work. Out so we're going to get better from.

1775
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 4: It and it's also been you, know we have our

1776
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 4: wide receivers in this. Game you got three for twelve

1777
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 4: From judy one for eight From Cedric, tillman you got

1778
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 4: two for eleven From Malchi, corley and you've got one

1779
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 4: of the great stat anomalies of all. Time Isaiah. Bond zero,

1780
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 4: targets zero catches and twenty one receiving yards because on

1781
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 4: that end around to, him it was actually a, shovel

1782
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 4: so it counts as a, pass and then he's the

1783
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 4: one who gets credit for the yards because he took that. Pass,

1784
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 4: so by the, Way Isaiah bond is up to now

1785
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 4: over nineteen yards a catch because he's got twenty yards

1786
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 4: twenty yards on that one with yards for. Nothing but

1787
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 4: we got to get our receivers. Go but part of

1788
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 4: that is, time and part of that is comfort and

1789
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 4: all of those. Things it's just you, know you look

1790
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 4: at this team and you, say The bills are a

1791
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 4: team that feels like they can come out of THE

1792
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 4: afc right and and maybe they have too many. Flaws

1793
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 4: maybe we saw some of that in this. One but you,

1794
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 4: know we're again AND i hate to bring it, up

1795
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 4: but a bad snap pulled situation from a field goal

1796
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 4: that had we made that field goal at the end

1797
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 4: of the first, half it's tied at the end of the.

1798
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 2: Game we're at the point now though with that where

1799
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: that's every wee we expected every, week so like if

1800
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't, happen it's like.

1801
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: Celebrated that's what we.

1802
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: Want clean special. Teams, yay we haven't had that all.

1803
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: SEASON i mean that's Been that's who we. ARE i,

1804
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 2: mean you've got two games.

1805
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 5: Left this is this is, Yeah, yeah that is who we.

1806
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 3: Are, yeah all, right let's do the The Trench.

1807
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 2: Report it's brought to you by a big fit the

1808
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,959
Speaker 2: matches made for more crafted In, cleveland just like Our browns.

1809
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 2: Man we got two games to Get miles this sack,

1810
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 2: Off like we got what can? They what can you?

1811
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 2: DO i mean it's like the last thing that we

1812
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: got to get done this year is get this done for.

1813
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: Him i'd love to do it this. Weekend he Gets

1814
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 2: pittsburgh at. Home what can they? Do and it's not

1815
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 2: gonna be. Easy rogers gets it out of his hand

1816
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 2: in about an eighth of a second most of the. Time,

1817
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: now how do you how how can they make sure

1818
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: that this Happens?

1819
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 6: Sunday that's gonna be. TOUGH i was pissed at The

1820
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 6: Buffalo bills Because miles is always getting a lot of extra.

1821
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 6: Attention but it seems like he's getting even more attention

1822
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 6: because these teams are, saying, no we don't want him

1823
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 6: to set the record AGAINST. US i mean there was

1824
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 6: a lot of.

1825
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 5: Times, YES i think that is a. PROBLEM i think

1826
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 5: that's an.

1827
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 3: Issue what's that they?

1828
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 4: Ran first of, all they doubled him or tripled him

1829
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 4: every single, play every single, play and every pocket was

1830
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 4: moving to the, right AND i was kind of watching

1831
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 4: it being, like are we gonna ever put him on

1832
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 4: the other, side or let's run a nickel blitz off that,

1833
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 4: side so that as soon as he's trying to break

1834
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 4: contain to the, right he's running into a blitzer because

1835
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 4: they Were the only Time miles got close on that

1836
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 4: one play was when he held. It he, looked he,

1837
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 4: looked he went back like it was only they weren't

1838
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 4: even really throwing.

1839
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 5: The ball a lot.

1840
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 4: Either right, There guy's gonna be a hard time right.

1841
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 4: Down they weren't throwing it a, lot and if they,

1842
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 4: did it was either out. Quick at one, point twelve

1843
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 4: of his he had twelve, Attempts six of them were

1844
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 4: catch and throws and the others were other than the

1845
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 4: one where he was close and got that half a,

1846
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 4: sack which is a wild scoring, situation but everything else

1847
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 4: was a sprint out, right like.

1848
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 5: Running away from. Him they tried to make it go

1849
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:29,959
Speaker 5: all the way around.

1850
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: The horn And pittsburgh could do the same. Thing they

1851
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: definitely don't want it. Against that's not happen against The Watt.

1852
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: Is everybody talks.

1853
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 5: About it being Stray hans record and he did set,

1854
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 5: it but T. J watt did tie. Him, yeah they're

1855
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 5: not getting so what can you?

1856
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 6: Do, YEAH i mean it was, tough like the one.

1857
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 6: TIME i, Mean Dean dawkins is A Pro Bowl he's

1858
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 6: a great left. Tackle And miles put his head down

1859
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 6: and this was WHEN i think at the point in

1860
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 6: the game where they had readjusted that like weird almost

1861
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 6: safety that they split the sack Between miles And Mason,

1862
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 6: graham and then it was, Like, Okay miles needs one

1863
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 6: sack and he sets he breaks the. Record he sets

1864
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 6: the new record twenty three. Sacks AND i don't know

1865
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 6: if he knew on the sideline because it was like

1866
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 6: they put turbo mode on him because he put his

1867
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 6: head down and did a bull rush LIKE i don't

1868
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 6: Think i've ever seen before except for out In spain

1869
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 6: when they do the running the. BULLS i, mean this

1870
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 6: thing was, Brutal LIKE i would have cried if he

1871
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,839
Speaker 6: did that to, me and my helmet would have. Shattered

1872
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 6: he put his head down and put his hands Into

1873
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 6: Dean dawkins's chest and lifted a three hundred and thirty

1874
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 6: pounds man up and threw him into the quarterback to

1875
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 6: the point Where dion was on his tippy toes grabbed

1876
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 6: the back Of miles's helmet and flipped it off. Ripped

1877
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 6: on the, Telecast miles is just looking at the ref,

1878
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 6: going are you kidding? Me are you watching?

1879
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 7: This?

1880
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, no you look, laughing you.

1881
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 6: Know AND i give him credit for not like dwelling

1882
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 6: on that one moment and being distracted from another opportunity

1883
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 6: because he has been held his entire, career so he's

1884
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 6: got to be used to not having the refs throw

1885
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 6: the penalty. Flag but in that, MOMENT i was just Like,

1886
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 6: jesus like what more can he? Do like he had

1887
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 6: his helmet ripped off and he threw the tackle into the.

1888
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 6: Quarterback of, Course Josh allen ran the hell out of

1889
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 6: there because he knew what was, Happening but, really the

1890
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 6: whole Game Dean dawkins And David edwards were double teaming,

1891
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 6: him And david's a good left. Guard like that's six

1892
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty pounds of human resource to one, person

1893
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 6: and they still weren't able to block him because Because

1894
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 6: Josh allen still was running out of the pocket to the.

1895
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 6: Right SO i, mean it's just gonna have to be

1896
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 6: good luck to have that happen against The steelers where

1897
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 6: for some Reason aaron just hangs out to the football

1898
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 6: and like starts to scramble around and runs right into

1899
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 6: him because they are not going to allow him to

1900
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 6: be even double. TEAM i, mean he's gonna get chipped

1901
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 6: and double team on every play he got.

1902
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 4: Chipped and, then as you, Said Dion dawkins a four

1903
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,879
Speaker 4: Time Pro Bowl now that's not something that The steelers,

1904
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 4: have because what they started to try to do Was

1905
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 4: dawkins would kind of get him going up the field

1906
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 4: outside and then his Second miles tried to break it back.

1907
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 4: Inside that guard looked like he wasn't there and would

1908
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 4: come sprint and just like basically hit.

1909
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 5: It Like i've Seen joel do that with YOU.

1910
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: I remember years, ago and that's when You, unfortunately that's

1911
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 4: like he got rocked a couple times because that guy's

1912
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 4: coming with a running start just to hit.

1913
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 6: Him, YEAH i mean it's Gonna we would try to

1914
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 6: do that against your better defensive ends that we're trying

1915
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 6: to bull rush a, lot, right because it kind of

1916
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 6: discourages the bull rush because they Know i'm going to

1917
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 6: bull rush this tackle And i'm gonna start moving him.

1918
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 6: Back But i'm very vulnerable now BECAUSE i got two

1919
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 6: hands in his chest and my ribs are very available

1920
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 6: to that left guard to come over and take a

1921
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 6: big chomp out of those barbecue ribs right, there and it.

1922
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 6: Hurts and you've got a big man at guard who's

1923
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 6: got a five or six yard head start to sprint

1924
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 6: as fast as he can and put his helt right

1925
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 6: into your rib. Cage like it discourages the bull rush pretty,

1926
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 6: quickly and so we would try to dial up a

1927
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 6: few of those protections early on in the game when

1928
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 6: you knew you were going to get a four man

1929
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 6: rush and you knew that this was a big bull rush,

1930
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 6: guy and we want to kind of send a message.

1931
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 6: Early BUT i mean they were doing it the whole

1932
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 6: game because they had no. Choice you have no choice

1933
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 6: when you're going Against. Miles there's there's nobody on Planet

1934
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 6: earth that's ever walked that could block him. Consistently it's

1935
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 6: just not. Possible he's just on that type of a superhuman.

1936
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 6: Level is there anything That shorts can?

1937
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 5: DO i was surprised we didn't move them.

1938
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 6: Back that's that's what they're gonna. DO i hope they

1939
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 6: do that Against pittsburgh because if you line them up

1940
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 6: in one spot over the left, TACKLE i mean they're

1941
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 6: going to have a plan for. That but line them

1942
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 6: up over the, guard move them. Around let let them

1943
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 6: kind of play the game where just, say, Hey, miles

1944
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 6: line up wherever you want and then substitute and switch.

1945
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 6: Somebody so we have contained and we have the gaps.

1946
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 6: Covered but just lining them up over the left tackle

1947
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 6: is not going to. Work they got to move them.

1948
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 5: Around they got the.

1949
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 6: Blits a few GUYS i think and Stunt, miles and you,

1950
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 6: know you see a lot of times when they're running

1951
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 6: games and stunts Incideber miles can kind of get free

1952
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,480
Speaker 6: and find a one on one because they're switching assignments

1953
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 6: by running those stunts on the line of.

1954
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 4: Scrimmage because at that wide, nine if he's out on

1955
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 4: that WIDE knighte just create it. Creates it's a long

1956
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 4: way to the. QUARTERBACK i know you're shortening the angle

1957
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 4: in the sense that you're getting, wider but if they're

1958
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 4: running away from you and you're that you, know already

1959
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 4: five yards, out like it's it's. HARD i want him

1960
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 4: to get. IT i know first you're exactly. Right it's

1961
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 4: gonna have to be one Where rogers first read isn't.

1962
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 4: There he pulls it down and before he can even

1963
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 4: do anything, else it's. Boom he's just getting.

1964
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 6: Crushed, yeah and.

1965
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 2: It feels like it's one where we're GONNA i, mean

1966
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: if we got a lead and got them to play

1967
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 2: off a, rhythm that would be a racial in a big,

1968
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 2: way because if they get to play in their, way

1969
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: then they're never Gonna he's not gonna hold.

1970
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 5: It he's just not gonna hold the ball for. It

1971
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 5: he's he's gonna. Dick they're gonna to go. Back so

1972
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 5: we went and when we played, there we didn't Sack rogers.

1973
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 2: Once, well for the longest part of this, year he's Got,

1974
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: yeah for the longest part of this, year he's been getting,

1975
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: it getting it out of his hands faster anybody in the.

1976
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: LEAGUE i haven't looked at it in the last three

1977
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 2: weeks or, so but that's how it had been for

1978
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: the longest point he has been.

1979
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 4: Sacked so it was zero against, us and then he's

1980
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 4: had in the last few, weeks said three three three

1981
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 4: one one zero three, two so that would be the

1982
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 4: last eight.

1983
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 5: Games he's had.

1984
01:25:56,040 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 4: Three, three, three nine ten eleven sixty to a game

1985
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 4: on average over the last. Eight SO hopefu there's some opportunity. There.

1986
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: Uhh if it Is christmas this, week what's on the

1987
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 2: what's on the menu for For christmas?

1988
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 6: Dinner, well we Had christmas dinner at my sister's last

1989
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 6: night and my brother in law cooked up one of

1990
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 6: Those hall of fame beef full blood wogg you prime

1991
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:22,839
Speaker 6: ribs with the however MASTER z recipe. WAS i almost.

1992
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 6: Swore it was so. Good it almost made, swear AND

1993
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 6: i don't think she's ever. Sworn we Had Grandma martini's was.

1994
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 6: There march said it was the best prime rib she's

1995
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 6: ever had in her. Life SO i gotta thank DOCTOR

1996
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 6: z for the amazing souvie. Recipe it was on. Point it.

1997
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 6: Was it was so good because you know sometimes when

1998
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 6: you do a medium rare prime, rib it has a

1999
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 6: little chewiness when you get into that center of that prime.

2000
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 6: Rib not this, one, baby it was like butter all

2001
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 6: the way. Through it just melted right in your. Mouth

2002
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 6: and then you have that amazing cap that gets us,

2003
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 6: seared and it gets that rosemary and that garlic and

2004
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 6: that crust and forms with that delicious fat on the.

2005
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 6: OUTSIDE i, mean people fighting each, other even the little

2006
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 6: children were fighting for those end caps that were just

2007
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 6: covered at that Cross. Man it was unlike everything Anything

2008
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 6: i'd ever had in my entire. Life it was so.

2009
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 6: Good so how do we follow that? UP i don't.

2010
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 6: KNOW i don't think we eat. ANYTHING i think we

2011
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 6: just fast all the way now till The New years.

2012
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 9: Old there was.

2013
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 6: It i'm and that'd be the last MEAL i had

2014
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 6: of the entire year of twenty twenty.

2015
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 3: Five Hof what is your your favorite gift you ever

2016
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 3: got as a?

2017
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 6: KID i think it was twelve AND i got a

2018
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 6: boombox with a dual cassette, deck which allowed me to,

2019
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 6: dub you, know and to make mixtapes by you, know

2020
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 6: recording on one and then you'd play it and then.

2021
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 6: Uh it was the best. GIFT i Think i've never

2022
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 6: had probably more joy for A christmas or really any

2023
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 6: gift in my life than that moment because it unlocked

2024
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 6: the universe of music to me and the ability to

2025
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 6: take songs THAT i was recording THAT i listened to

2026
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 6: on the radio and make those amazing mixtapes THAT i

2027
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 6: could listen, to you, know before sporting events or As

2028
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 6: i'm outside in the driveway shooting hoops at night With

2029
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 6: michael because it's ten below zero In. Wisconsin it was.

2030
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 6: Amazing i'd love to hear what you guys have as

2031
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 6: as your favorite gift, ever because that one is One

2032
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 6: i'll never ever.

2033
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 5: Forget and you're leaving out a.

2034
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 4: PART i imagine young twelve year old haff you, know

2035
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 4: may have had started to the attention of the Fair,

2036
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 4: sex and kids today don't know the joy of making

2037
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 4: a mixtape for a young lady and bestowing it upon.

2038
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 4: Her and that Was, yeah that was a Great it

2039
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 4: was a big part of the wooing process back. Then,

2040
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 4: yeah when he pulled out a. Mixtape, yeah you.

2041
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 3: May be on the, fence but maybe take a little

2042
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 3: bit now and now you're in.

2043
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 5: NOW i would say my favorite WAS i REMEMBER i

2044
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 5: got A.

2045
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 3: I got THE X.

2046
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 5: Wing it was like a big.

2047
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 4: Old stars swing From Star wars WHEN i was VERY

2048
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 4: i was, young AND i was, LIKE i wanted that

2049
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 4: thing and it was, awesome and THEN i was bummed

2050
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 4: because THEN i put you it came with the battle

2051
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 4: decals so that you knew like it had been shot

2052
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 4: a little. Bit but then you couldn't take those decals

2053
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 4: so they. Stayed SO i was, LIKE i kind of

2054
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 4: wanted it back to be pristine.

2055
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 2: AGAIN i had A i can't remember how OLD i,

2056
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: was ten or, ELEVEN i got THE uss, flag THE

2057
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: G I joe aircraft.

2058
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 3: Carrier, OH i got that, thing maybe ten or.

2059
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 2: Eleven there's still remnants of it at my dad's place

2060
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: for the remnants at. Best but that was a big

2061
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 2: one AND i didn't realize it was a rare thing

2062
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: at that. Time But i've talked about it in recent

2063
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 2: years of people LIKE i can't believe you had, That,

2064
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't, know just got.

2065
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 3: LUCKY i don't know what it.

2066
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 4: WAS rosq would be able to break down, Exait he's,

2067
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 4: said old toy Collect oh, yeah oh yeah.

2068
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah the Old.

2069
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 5: Yeah so that was a good. One the Old Saint

2070
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 5: nick took care of me on that. One well listen.

2071
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 5: Off Merry christmas to you and your, family, buddy all the.

2072
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: Best we'll be visiting with you soon as the Meat

2073
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 2: santa Bids ado On holiday. Week that was A Joe

2074
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: thomas half hour of the, program and that Was Cleveland Browns.

2075
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: Daily thank you so much for Listening Cleveland Browns, daily

2076
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: eight FIFTY Espn.

2077
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,799
Speaker 1: Cleveland you've been listening To Cleveland Browns, daily a production

2078
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 1: of The Cleveland browns and eight FIFTY Espn cleveland And

2079
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 13: Don't Talk, To don't tun