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Speaker 1: What's up. It's lip service. I'm Antela Yee, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gigi Maguire, Jeordie jor.

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Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Well, we are so excited to have you. First of all,

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Speaker 1: so congratulations on everything. I feel like you're an honorary

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn person now too.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, I guess so if y'all.

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Speaker 1: Won't have me, oh no, we would love to have you.

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Speaker 1: It's an honor. But no, seriously, congratulations, like Ruth and

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Speaker 1: Boaz the movie on Netflix, thank you. I want to say,

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Speaker 1: did a phenomenal job. We'll get to that in a second.

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Speaker 1: And then of course your biggest job as a mom mom.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I can't believe it. Yes, yes, all

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Speaker 3: I am. It's so crazy, it's surreal. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I've read that you found out while you were

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Speaker 1: on set filming.

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Speaker 3: I did, like literally we had I don't know three

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Speaker 3: weeks of prep for this movie, and like, going into

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Speaker 3: the first week of actually shooting, I was like, I

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Speaker 3: feel a little strange. I'm waiting on my girl to

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Speaker 3: show up knocking at the door, you know, the monthly

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Speaker 3: was like, Okay, literally I feel like right when I

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Speaker 3: took the test and found out, I was like, I

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Speaker 3: just I got sick. Right then. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: it's really happening. But it was great though. I pushed through.

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Speaker 1: No, that's exciting. And by the way, couldn't tell it all.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, you know what. Thank God. She like had

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Speaker 3: some some turmoil to get through.

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Speaker 1: So I used us, You're like, I'm going through so

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Speaker 1: much and I gotta let me bring this on. Screw

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Speaker 1: with me.

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Speaker 3: Did a great job, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I remember talking to an actor and he was telling

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Speaker 1: me he was getting ready for a role and so

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Speaker 1: we were out and I was like, I got to

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Speaker 1: that I'm playing, I'm like disheveled. So he said that

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Speaker 1: the director told him like to like get drunk and

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Speaker 1: really like stay out all night. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a method. I mean, you really to get

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Speaker 3: what you're asking for them.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to do all that. Like what do

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Speaker 1: you channel though, Like when you're having scenes where you're emotional,

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Speaker 1: where you're because you had to have a lot of

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Speaker 1: emotion in the movie, Like what how do you manage

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Speaker 1: to do that where you're really like crying and looking upset.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I think for me, what what works best that

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Speaker 3: I find is just imagination, like just really trying to

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Speaker 3: put myself in the shoes of the character. A lot

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Speaker 3: screen we can resonate with, right, like someone passing or

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Speaker 3: you know, being mad, or like I was saying the

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Speaker 3: other day, stubbing your toe, like you know what that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, we became really familiar with you

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Speaker 1: from Empire also. That was a that was the whole time.

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Speaker 2: You had some bangers on there too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That was the whole time.

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Speaker 1: It was a whole long time.

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Speaker 3: It was a great time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and look at where you are now

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Speaker 1: and the fact that you can sing the way that

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Speaker 1: to you it felt like real emotion. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the mask I appreciate that. Well. You know, baby

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Speaker 3: Face wrote the record in the movie, and I think

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Speaker 3: he has that sparkle to him. Where he writes records

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Speaker 3: that we can all listen to many different artists that

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Speaker 1: He really can't write for anybody, yeah yeah, but for women.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he writes for women in particular. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how he taps into it. Babyface actually did

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Speaker 1: lip service Wench. Yes he did. Yes, Yes, it was

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Speaker 1: him and Arie Lennox together when he had that project

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Speaker 1: out with like all women on there. Okay, you know

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Speaker 1: what he said, I'll never forget this during the episode

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Speaker 1: because you know, Ari's like raw. He was like, he

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Speaker 3: So yep, yeah, I love that. I honestly, I asked

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Speaker 3: it's like a week. I wrote, Yeah, it's still a

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Speaker 3: day for him. But you know what's It's interesting because

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Speaker 3: and it's like, I feel like the greats really did,

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Speaker 3: the lyrics are so poetic. Maybe it's because he took

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Speaker 1: Even my hip hop, you see people just be punching

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Speaker 1: then punching. Also, the songs are so much shorter now,

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Speaker 1: that's true. Also, they're writing R and B songs with

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Speaker 1: no bridge. The raps only have two verses in a hook.

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Speaker 2: Like some people don't even have courses anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some people don't even have courses.

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Speaker 1: I saw somebody writing abo you. They were like, does

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Speaker 1: she sing for real? I'm like, yeah, she sings.

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Speaker 3: For real about this movie?

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Speaker 1: No general, because you're really an artist and sometimes people

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Speaker 1: look at it it's like she's acting. But you do

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Speaker 1: put out music in real life.

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Speaker 3: I do, and I have some projects out. I have

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Speaker 3: a project called Archives that's out it's an EP, and

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Speaker 3: also one that's flutter some singles, and I'm about to

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Speaker 3: drop some more music too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about some of it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I d f N.

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Speaker 1: Now, normally that means I don't know, But here what

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Speaker 1: this means is I don't fix niggas.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And you don't.

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Speaker 1: Relate to that raise your hand, white people, not even

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Speaker 3: It's so funny too, because I had a friend that

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Speaker 3: what's going on? It's some's some you see stuff happening

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, yeah about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that song is like a great song.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely about just like hey, like I feel like

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Speaker 3: like I feel like everyone can have issues. I don't

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Speaker 3: be perfect. But I think I'm more so saying like

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Speaker 3: if you don't know what you want, I can't do

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Speaker 3: anything for you. Right, got to keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: Well, you fixed that guy, Joey because when he sat

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Speaker 1: here on his couch, what happened? He was polyamorous. He

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Speaker 1: was not trying to see attention. Was that here? Yes?

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Speaker 1: That was he said, right there, And I had my

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Speaker 1: and I was like, and I said it. I was like,

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Speaker 3: And he was sitting there with his hoodie and.

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Speaker 1: Had mad guys in the comments like yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: and I'm with Joey and now look at y'all.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, listen. I was so caught off guard

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Speaker 3: because when we first started dating, I knew really nothing

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Speaker 3: on Two Distant Strangers and I was like, oh, you

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Speaker 3: to know that we were dating, oh my god, that's

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Speaker 3: all they talked about. You know what he has said?

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Speaker 2: I said, how did you handle that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was just kind of like, so, what

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Speaker 3: about this you from that was definitely before him? That

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Speaker 3: was definitely before him, But but it applies, I guess.

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Speaker 1: No, But you know, I love to see that though.

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Speaker 1: And I told him like, because I just had him

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for him to see this, you know.

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Speaker 1: When I saw that and seeing how like you guys

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Speaker 1: they're dating. Y'all looked like it was really having too

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I think that we just I

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Speaker 3: just really wanted to be like, hey, there's some things

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know what it's like. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of like what we held off for a second.

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Speaker 3: But we couldn't hold off too long, right.

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Speaker 1: Because people are going to see y'all, like on trips together, vacation.

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Speaker 2: How did y'all meet?

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Speaker 3: We actually met at a mutual friend's like birthday, but

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Speaker 3: we didn't hang out until probably a year after that.

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Speaker 1: He was feeling you at first, though I feel like

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Speaker 1: it was you. He was more like, I like her,

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think so I'll take it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Because I have to imagine in this business, it's not

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Speaker 1: easy to take somebody seriously too, right, because, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you had been in a long term public relationship, and

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Speaker 1: then you don't want to just jump into something. We're

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Speaker 1: not jump in, but you don't want to just do

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Speaker 1: and you've been with but then you know people do that,

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Speaker 1: they'll be like, oh, now, she's with this guy or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and so I have to imagine, like, for you, you were

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Speaker 1: I feel like women, because we know we get judged

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Speaker 1: How is it now? Because we all want that soft life,

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Speaker 1: we're good. We didn't have to necessary we weren't. We

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00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of money, but we didn't struggle.

435
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: Like but yeah, I think that when I used to

436
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 1: talk about not ever want to get married, I think

437
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: it was because I knew I wasn't going to marry

438
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: the person that I was with, So my mindset was

439
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: like it's never going to happen. It was like protecting

440
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: yourself because you didn't think it was going to happen.

441
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: Knew it wasn't going to happen there. Yeah, And I'm like,

442
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't care if we're stay together forever. I don't

443
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: see this being my husband. So I just would be like,

444
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to get married, but I do want

445
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: that experience. Yeah you want to, Yeah, I'll be there.

446
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

447
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: Now Soria, you are getting married, you're engaged. Did you

448
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: guys like set up anything yet? Do you have ideas

449
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: of like where when.

450
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 3: We've talked loosely talked about different things, but we don't

451
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 3: have anything locked in stone yet. We got engaged like

452
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: maybe like a month, a month, a month before I

453
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Speaker 3: give birth, So I think, yeah, I was. There was

454
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: so much going on with my with my delivery, and

455
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: I was just like shook about that and it's my

456
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: first time, you know, it's a very scary thing. And

457
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: this blessing happened, and this blessing happened, like oh my god,

458
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 3: I'm overwhelmed in the best way. But he definitely asked

459
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: me like, so what are you thinking? And I'm like,

460
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: let's just you know, we don't have to rush about this.

461
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 3: We've talked about it a couple of times. We're going

462
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 3: to revisit, he said.

463
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: He over communicates about everything.

464
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 3: I think the world knows that. Everybody's sending me his

465
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 3: little podcast.

466
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, but you have to communicate. And you

467
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: did share your experience. You had a see sec right,

468
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: and you had a doula also, right, And so I

469
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: just want to talk about that because this is I

470
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: think we talk about black maintental health care and everything.

471
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: I just love I love the fact. And I'm only

472
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: asking you because you were open about the experience or rest.

473
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pry in that way, but I just want

474
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: to talk to you about what that was like, because

475
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: we always hear stories about black matental health care, the

476
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: questions that we should be asking, what are these experiences like.

477
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Speaker 3: I can tell you that when I was in Georgia

478
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: and I found out I was pregnant, was treated very

479
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: different because I went to I went to the hospital

480
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 3: to just make sure everything was okay and to like

481
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: to get my vitals checked. I was very sick and

482
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: things like that, and I was treated very poorly there.

483
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: But when I got here too, Jersey and I started

484
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 3: to do more research because I've heard of all the

485
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: horror stories around the topic, especially for black women. And

486
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 3: I did the research and I started to figure out, Okay,

487
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: what is what do I want? What do I want

488
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: my birth to look like? And I think it's it

489
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: was just really important for me to be around someone

490
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: that I can trust. Obviously, we don't know the doctor right, like,

491
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: it's all just a scary situation. But I do my

492
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 3: research and I found this this doctor that's in Jersey,

493
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 3: I think she's in Union, and she practices basically like

494
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: water births and just births of where the mom makes

495
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 3: all the decisions. It's not the doctors and the nurses

496
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 3: making the decisions. And it's called a birthing center. Okay, yeah,

497
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 3: it's more holistic. They don't they don't. There's no medicine available,

498
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: so if you want, yeah, so you're signing up to

499
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: do like one hundred percent natural, but you get like,

500
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: obviously there's there's emergency protocols if you do need to

501
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: be transferred. They're professionals, the real real doctors doulas obviously

502
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: are welcome. You can make the space how you want to.

503
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: You can light candles, what however you wanted to look

504
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: And I was just really I was really enticed by that.

505
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: I felt like that was the most calming like and

506
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring my child into like a very

507
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 3: calm like energy and welcoming in love. And I think

508
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: that was my that was my goal. But when you're pregnant,

509
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: you never know what's going to happen. So he was

510
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 3: breached most of my pregnancy, and so I had to

511
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: have a cesarean, but I still had my doctor, so

512
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: it was literally the best. Still, it was still the

513
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 3: best experience.

514
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: It's good. I'm glad you did your research and knew that, like,

515
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: you had options, things to do, and you were able

516
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: to make those decisions. And even if it is like

517
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: a situation where it may not go the way that

518
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: in your head you had it planned, you know, you

519
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: felt like you did the best that you could do

520
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: and had somebody speaking for you. You know, also that

521
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: was on your side.

522
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I don't have to worry about that when

523
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: it comes to Javon though Joey it's his real name,

524
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: But I don't have to worry about that when it

525
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: comes to him. He's he's speaking of.

526
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: She asked me questions like yep, in the in the room,

527
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, so well, she asked a question, just let

528
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: me do that.

529
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: His doctor like, did you eat?

530
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm like it.

531
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 3: He's like, na she ain't.

532
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: Now, So back to Ruth and bow As. I want

533
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: to ask you this. Another theme from the movie is

534
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: originally you did not get along with the mother, right

535
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: the boyfriend that oh yes, y yes, Naomi. So originally

536
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: that didn't happen, and that can be difficult in a

537
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: relationship where somebody's mom like doesn't get along with you

538
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: or doesn't like you. In your lifetime, have you ever

539
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: dated somebody and did not get along with like their mom,

540
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: or have have you ever had like funny weird.

541
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, one time, and it was very interesting because I

542
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: feel like people that I've dated or you know, met

543
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: ther moms, even if it wasn't like that deep serious

544
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: or whatever, Yes, who.

545
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: Don't like me?

546
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: What did I do?

547
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: Was's boy?

548
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I feel like sometimes they get a little

549
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: you know, jealousy.

550
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right.

551
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: That's what the mom was telling me. How she said no,

552
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: she was given that energy and I was just trying

553
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: to figure it out, and I'm like, all right, I

554
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on here? Unfortunately?

555
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: What about your parents liking people like.

556
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, my dad only meant probably one or

557
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: two of the people I've dated, and two being Joey,

558
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, he loves he loves Joey. I think my

559
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 3: parents are very like my parents are very young. Let

560
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: me just note that my mom and my dad had

561
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: me at sixteen seventeen, so yeah, so we're like now

562
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: that I'm getting older and ages more relative, it's like

563
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: they're the homies. Like they're just very understanding. Yeah, it's different,

564
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 3: like I don't get the same, Like they don't judge me,

565
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: like I think how maybe other parents, I don't know.

566
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: We just have a different parental like relationship.

567
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: They must be so proud.

568
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: We're like best friends. Yeah, but like you got to

569
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 3: listen to them.

570
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: One of my girlfriends, Yeah, we really talk like that.

571
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be like, girl, why do you not see

572
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 3: your phone work?

573
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: That's a great I like that though, because they have

574
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: to feel so proud, because I think sometimes people could

575
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: be really judgmental of that. Absolutely, so they wouldn't be

576
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: like so much like you went through a lot.

577
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: As teenage parents that you guys get everything thrown at you,

578
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: the stereotypes, the whispers, the talking, you know, and so

579
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: I think, now I know they're very proud of me,

580
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: and I'm so glad to kind of be their champion

581
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: in that way.

582
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: Now, Jordan has anybody's parents every not like you.

583
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, hesitation probably like my most significant relationship. He well,

584
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: he and his mom didn't get along, and that to

585
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: me was a red flag until I met her, and.

586
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa was a lot.

587
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was intense, she was a lot, and he

588
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: was adopted. So I just felt like there was this

589
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 4: a very interesting dynamic of possession and it was like

590
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 4: I was intruding on that.

591
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: Weird.

592
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a little eerie, creepy weird.

593
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, didn't affect your relationship.

594
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, Like I didn't go over there.

595
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 4: He wouldn't really say when he was coming to see

596
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 4: me or anything like that.

597
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was definitely tough.

598
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: Was this young I'm sorry, look.

599
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like we dated podcast he too, twenty four,

600
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: so it was a long time.

601
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: It was a long time.

602
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: She had never warm up to you.

603
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: I mean towards I mean towards the end. We were

604
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 4: grown you know, so I think it was different. There

605
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: was nothing she could really say, but he was still

606
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: living there.

607
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: What yeah, at home, at home, at home.

608
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, she'd have been to that part.

609
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: I mean, that was a very tultuous relationship. But yeah,

610
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: we were not feeling each other.

611
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: What about ugi? Anybody's parents not like you, Not that

612
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: I know of, but probably so, because you know, we

613
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: don't always know everything, haide it from you. I think

614
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: I only had one boyfriend whose parents didn't like me,

615
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: and it was when I was in high school, and

616
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: they were like, first of all, he was Jamaican, and

617
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: anytime I would call the house, his parents would be like,

618
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: he's not here and just hang up on me before

619
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: I could even let that say anything, right, they seem right.

620
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: And then and then if they did, like speak, they

621
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: would be like, did you just call her? Hang up?

622
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: And I would be like no, but I should have day.

623
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: But he was. They were mean to everyone like he

624
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: I would be when I would go over his house.

625
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: He lived in like the basement, you know how back

626
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: then so and his parents were upstairs like they did

627
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: not talk to him. They would literally go to Jamaica

628
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: for the whole summer and leave him in the house,

629
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: like starving, I'd be like a bagel we're.

630
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: Talking about because I neglect.

631
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just because we were in high school. It

632
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: was wild, but I could not. But that's just how

633
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: they were, Like they just were not even nice to him.

634
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: So all right, now, another thing I want to talk about,

635
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: since we're talking about Ruth and boa As on Netflix,

636
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: is posting everything on social media. There's a part and

637
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: I know this is going to happen, you know, where

638
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: you get posted online performing it goes viral and you're

639
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: like take it down and you got to watch the

640
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: movie to see exactly why that happens. But do you

641
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: think we live in a like does it get annoying

642
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: sometimes for you being who you are and everything that

643
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: happens gets like posted online.

644
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes pretty much. Yeah, But you know it just

645
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: makes me that much more mindful of like the times

646
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: that we're in and how much my influence is being

647
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: looked at or like, you know, I want to I

648
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: don't want to say study, but yeah, being looked at,

649
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: because it puts me back into the seat of like, okay,

650
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: have purpose because I never want to be just doing

651
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: anyal whatever, Like I really do want to promote and

652
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: like be kind of like mindful of the message that

653
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: I'm I'm putting out there. And when I do get

654
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: posted for whatever reason, I'm like, oh, okay, dang, they

655
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: care about that. I didn't even think that they would

656
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: pick that.

657
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: Up, like, dang, I can't have an argument. I got

658
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: an argument with my boyfriend in the club the other day.

659
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: I left because I was like everybody was looking and

660
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: I was trying my hardest not to go back and forth,

661
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: but I was like, this ain't gonna look good if

662
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: somebody's like I Like, I got right in at uber

663
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: and left because I was like he was not listening.

664
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: He was like he kept telling me take accountability because

665
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, what are you talking about, Like,

666
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: calm it down. So I literally left, and I was

667
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm not going to embarrass myself

668
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: now I'm posted. It looked like this, and I know

669
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: we'll be fine later.

670
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: Why are you laughing at She's like I was smart.

671
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: She's like I stayed and argued, but sometimes you don't know.

672
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: We were both kind of like, wow, we didn't know

673
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: that we had Pamper Rounds was giving and it was

674
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: like all the storylines I'm like, yo, this is crazy,

675
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: as real as it felt and as it was, I'm

676
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: just like the fact that people were coming up with

677
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: with argument headlines or like, well this is this is

678
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: a lot.

679
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: So what was the craziest headline that came from that disagreement?

680
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: Oh, in the comments, I can't even remember it, to

681
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: be honest, I think maybe like I think maybe they

682
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: were like, this is for a movie, but this is

683
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 3: giving a lot to do the movie. But I'll take it.

684
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do think we just in such a

685
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: time when like people are posting every damn thing, like

686
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: everybody got to be mindful of who could be watching.

687
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: That's why I already don't like to argue outside in public.

688
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't even like to argue period.

689
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: I was about to say, who do you ever argument?

690
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: I know I can't see it.

691
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not really like that if anything, and this

692
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 1: might not be good either, I like shut down. If

693
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: I'm upset, I just will be like I can't hear you,

694
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: and I will actually tell you, like I don't want

695
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: to talk about it until I'm not mad, and I

696
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: to tell right, because you don't want to say something

697
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: that not maybe you regret, but that you know, is

698
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: going to hurt that person feeling you speaking out of

699
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: your emotions instead of really you know, So if that's

700
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: actually a good strategy for it for you or a

701
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: person who's like the softest person and the nicest person

702
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: that I know, for you, get soft gg I mean

703
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: soft like like see like we know not to try

704
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: because you're from Brooklyn, but soft like you're so gentle,

705
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: like you're so like I'm very mindful of people's feelings alive,

706
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: like I try to make sure even like in talking

707
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: to people, I try not to say anything. Look, we

708
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: have a good time, We're going to do our job.

709
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: But I don't ever want to be I don't want

710
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: people to walk away feeling bad, and so I will

711
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: say that like that's part of the mission of everything

712
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: we do. I want you to be like, I had

713
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: a good.

714
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: Time, great time, you know, it's good. That's good. So

715
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: I love that.

716
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: So when you found out you were having a son,

717
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: how did you feel, Oh.

718
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: I was elated. I've always wanted a boy I have.

719
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's just I'm just I don't know, I

720
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: just feel like a boy. Mom. And then Joey has

721
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: a daughter, and so he also wanted a boy, and

722
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: so when we found out, we literally jumped and over

723
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: the table. I was like, whoa. We were very excited.

724
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: So you want to have more children?

725
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: I would love to, honestly, it's just it's takes a

726
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: village and it's a lot of managing. So get a

727
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: couple more a couple more jobs, a few more years.

728
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: When you think about some more jobs, like what else

729
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: do you have on the plate? I know Ruth and

730
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: Boaz is out or you know when this comes out,

731
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: this is out, but like, what else is going on? Like,

732
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: because I know you also have to take time to

733
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: be a mother.

734
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's it's kind of

735
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: like this pushing pool. Because I love, like I said,

736
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: I feel like I thrive when I'm when I'm kind

737
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: of like when I'm working. I like to be creative

738
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: and I love I'm a person that loves the work.

739
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: I actually love the work. I love figuring it out

740
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: and making seeing it to the end and being like, wow,

741
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: this is a great finished product. But with that being said,

742
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: there is like mommy guilt that I feel right now.

743
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: And I know that it'll get easier and better over time.

744
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: But more projects are coming there's some projects that kind

745
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: of like are starting to bubble, and I can't really

746
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: talk about anything. Nothing's really official. But yeah, there's a

747
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: couple of different projects that I'm like, okay, like this

748
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: would be really really cool and they want me to

749
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: be a part of them. So I'm looking forward.

750
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: To those and music and music.

751
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: So I actually put out a record by the way, faithful.

752
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: From can we stop for one second? Just acknowledge the

753
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: fact that you are singing a song that the legends

754
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: Babyface Road. Not many people can say that. I just

755
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: want to pause for a second there. Literally, that's amazing.

756
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you pinched me a moment, thank you, And

757
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: I really love the song. It has this like country feel.

758
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: It's like the production is really cool. I really loved

759
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: the record for real. And right next to that record

760
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: you'll see on whatever platform you stream from, I'll put

761
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: out a record called pds O. It's called putting That

762
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: Shit On and it's for my girllies. So I want

763
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: you to I want you to listen to this song

764
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: and I feel like it's such a fun song and

765
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: literally during fashion Week, I've been posting it so much fun. Ah,

766
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: this is my first time out the house in like

767
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: four months. Okay, so you outside, but.

768
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: You look so good. Was that a worry for you?

769
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: Because you know, people talk about like the quote unquote

770
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: snap back, but it's also take your time and do

771
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: what you need. But it felt like for you, I

772
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: mean very easy for you to just was it because

773
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't. I don't know.

774
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: It was hard.

775
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: Okay, well made, well.

776
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: Thank you. I think there was. There was a lot

777
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 3: of moments in the dark, right Like by the time

778
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: I was kind of like showing myself again, it had

779
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: been a few months. So but I can say I

780
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: can say that I am grateful for the snapback for sure.

781
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: And I love the little baby weight that my son

782
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 3: gave me because I've always been a super small patigue

783
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: girl and I'm like, I don't feel none of my clothes.

784
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: I love it, and so I'm enjoying that part of it.

785
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: And Kiki Key told me, grud it's gonna go away.

786
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 3: I said, no, I just just got it. I feel

787
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: like a woman.

788
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: How is your okay, I got it? Is so funny.

789
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: How is like your How did you feel while you

790
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: were pregnant, like when it came to being intimate, were

791
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: you feeling more like or were you like, I don't

792
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: feel like it.

793
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: I think I was pretty much the same until the

794
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: end because I was just your body just is like

795
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 3: I'm ready to like get get this out of me. Yes,

796
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: and so it just gets a little like just a

797
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: little uncomfortable. But that's pretty much the same actually.

798
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: Because I've heard stories people that like, when you were pregnant,

799
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: when you think you were hornier, I had sex up

800
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: unto the very end. They said, that's good too. I

801
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: think the I think the last time I had sex

802
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: prior to going into labor and delivererty delivery was maybe like.

803
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 2: Two weeks before.

804
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he wasn't playing.

805
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: We was doing it. What was my favorite? This? H

806
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: look the belly on then.

807
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: That was the belly gotta just come over here. That's

808
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: so funny because when we were we were in the

809
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: birthing classes too. We took the classes together and they

810
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: started to talk about those things too, because you're like

811
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: prepping for birth, so all of the couples are like,

812
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: no one wants to ask what everyone wants to ask, like,

813
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: so what about sex?

814
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, do it more?

815
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: You're like good And I'm sure he was not good

816
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: I wanted.

817
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: But then afterwards they're like, but afterwards six weeks and

818
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,479
Speaker 3: all the guys was like.

819
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: Six weeks, that is not that bag, you know. But

820
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: sometimes guys are scared the thing. He'll look to have

821
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: you while you're pregnant because they feel like it's gonna

822
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: hit the baby. No one's that big, you're not going

823
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: to have.

824
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: It's not how the anatomy. But they don't know that,

825
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: you know, as much as they be with people you

826
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: think they would.

827
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: Okay, they don't know. So let me ask you this.

828
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: You know, do you think you're gonna have? Like, is

829
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: this a Brooklyn baby? Joey said, yes, But do you

830
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: think you're gonna raise your son in Brooklyn?

831
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: In brook I mean for Jersey? I know you yeah,

832
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, he's definitely East Coast baby for sure.

833
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Do you like that?

834
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: Like?

835
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: I love that for him. I love that I'm a

836
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: West Coast baby.

837
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: I know that's what's sow.

838
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: But but you know, I actually really do love it.

839
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: I think I think I love the energy here. I

840
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: love the energy of the people, the men too, Like

841
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: I love Joey's whole aura aura and how he is,

842
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, And so I I really appreciate it. Yeah, Okay,

843
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm down for it. Okay, now this something happens. Drying

844
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: to ask you, all right, Empire, do you still keep

845
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: in touch with anybody from Empire? You know what I do.

846
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: There's a few people actually that I was like really

847
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: close with towards the end. Not towards the end. I'm

848
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: gonna just say like we kind of got like new

849
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: characters over the years, so Tyron to excuse me, I'm

850
00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: super was super close to then Caitlin and Ryan and

851
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: a couple of different people. I haven't seen them in

852
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: a while. Now I feel like in this in this

853
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: new chapter of my life, especially living here, I think

854
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: a lot of them still live, like in La or Chicago,

855
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: because we shot in Chicago, so I go.

856
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: To Chicago on Monday.

857
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: I love Chicago. It has such a special place in

858
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 3: my heart. But since COVID, honestly, I haven't seen many people,

859
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: but we do keep in contact, Like I'll check in

860
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: on people, they'll check in on me.

861
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: What about rush Air? Have you spoken to him? Have not?

862
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: Have you felt like should I reach out to him?

863
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: I honestly he It's so crazy because we were obviously

864
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: like that was he was my lifeline on the show,

865
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: like our our storyline was why I was still on

866
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: the show for a long time. And I had to

867
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 3: work with him a lot, but we weren't We weren't

868
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: that close.

869
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: Okay.

870
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 3: I think he's it was work and he's always kind

871
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: of been in his own world, in his own lane.

872
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 3: You know. He wasn't very like penetratable like as far

873
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: as like you know, like a relationship with him. So

874
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 3: I always wish him the best and I always prayed

875
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: for him because I don't know what that is going

876
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: on for him. I see all the headlines too, you

877
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And I see everything and I'm

878
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: just like, damn.

879
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: Because he's super talented. So I thought like he was

880
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: one that.

881
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: Was like a natural yeah things. Yeah, because even even

882
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: when he did the New Edition story, loved doing that.

883
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he killed it.

884
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

885
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: I want him to get back on track, yeah, because

886
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: I do feel like everybody is like has the ability

887
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: to be able to inspect. That is one thing I

888
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: will say about Hollywood because look, even with Jesse Smallett,

889
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: he's managed to get back. You know, he had all

890
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: kinds of drama going on, but he kept it pushing

891
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: sometimes you keep it pushing, you keep working. Yeah, you

892
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: know you do. What you gotta do is the people

893
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: who will believe you will believe you. The people who

894
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: won't just won't. You can fortunately face with anybody anything.

895
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: So that's what I just have to ask you that

896
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: because I know you guys were like dating on the show,

897
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, I wonder if.

898
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: They were actually close and in real life.

899
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: I know.

900
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: Then now another person you recently channeled was Aliyah, and

901
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: everybody was like, if there's another Aliyah like bio for anything,

902
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: then you.

903
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: And I tell you I thought I was her when

904
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: I I have like old pictures of my pants sect everything,

905
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: I used to listen to all the songs they used

906
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: to heard the songs in my room, Like I really thought.

907
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: So it was really cool. I got that opportunity and

908
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 3: I would love love of Love to play her. And

909
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm not super big on like I guess biopics only

910
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: because it's so like I just feel like you have

911
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 3: to have that that biopic that's for you. I love

912
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: like Angela Bassett, Do you know what I'm saying? Like

913
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to just be any Yeah, So like

914
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: when when that when you can really, and I feel

915
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: like Aliah is one of those for me, and I

916
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: want to really.

917
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: Don't you think I could see that?

918
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could see that.

919
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: I could see that.

920
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I lovely and you know, if if it

921
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: were to be something, but I would really want her

922
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: family to be in front of that because there's a

923
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: lot around right kind of appropriating people and their families

924
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: not being involved, and that would make me feel uneasy.

925
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good though. You don't feel like a Hollywood

926
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: type of person at all, you know, talking to you,

927
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: because I mean really you're kind of like a you

928
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: were kind of like a I guess, would you say,

929
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: a child star? Not that young, but this happened for

930
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: you kind of.

931
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: I was nineteen, Yeah.

932
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, your your breakout role was such a huge hit. Yeah,

933
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: Like The Empire was that shell when it was I

934
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: was done a couple of episodes.

935
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah you were. I didn't see you though hard I

936
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: see him in the park.

937
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: It was like, and let me tell you something. I

938
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: respect how y'all do that? Because I was only on

939
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: there for like a minute and I had to film

940
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: like day. I was like, this is ridiculous. How do

941
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: y'all do this? Like people don't understand how much work

942
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: it is. It ain't like the cameras. Will you do

943
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: the scene and then you leave a lot of Tyler

944
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: Perry and then he takes that.

945
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 3: We had so many like artists and you know on

946
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: the show, a lot of people, yeah, everybody. Yeah, And

947
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: that's the main thing. Like a lot of especially music

948
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 3: artists will come on the show and.

949
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: Be like it's at all day. I take all day.

950
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: And even acting my scene was over, I still had

951
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: to be there because I'm like in the background. So

952
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: now I got to stay there for like doing nothing,

953
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just sitting there for like

954
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: two No, it was it was like four hours. I

955
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: was exhausted and I wasn't even doing ship. I was like,

956
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: this is crazy test TV. So I give it up

957
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: to you because that is like that job is a

958
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: real job. People may think that acting is like you're

959
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: just going.

960
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: And just know right, not at all.

961
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: What did you think you.

962
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: Were going to do if you didn't do this.

963
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I would definitely still be creative. I love skincare.

964
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 3: I would be a makeup artist and hairstyles for the stars.

965
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I would be.

966
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: Doing I would be doing somebody's skincare, I would be

967
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: having my own. I used to I think, yeah, I

968
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: used to think about having like my own spat things

969
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: like that. I've always kind of just been into like

970
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 3: you should still space, yeah, the.

971
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: Glow, get through your own.

972
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: I really have a passion for care line. That's something

973
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: that's calling you.

974
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: Good for you absolutely absolutely, and you.

975
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: Ask me, guys, when you when you're into that and

976
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: make you a guy into it too.

977
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I've given him plenty officials. I took all the

978
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: credit for the glow, okay.

979
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: And the other thing is they sometimes use that very

980
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: expensive product and they don't know that it's expensive products.

981
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: In my face, you got to know.

982
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: So much, so much, just so much, and then they

983
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: don't replace it because you guys will use like bar

984
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: soap on their feet.

985
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely if that, yeah.

986
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we got to use that everything.

987
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: I'm so into the details. I'm like, so instead of

988
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: making someone feel bad, I just kind of be like,

989
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: sit down, let me give you a facial because I

990
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: didn't see you wash your face.

991
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: Pull out the sea the hot sour. I want to

992
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: get you all right, it's about to get your steps

993
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: to the stage.

994
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 3: And now look you look at you side. You got

995
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: all his facial products.

996
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, you have your own little routine.

997
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: You'd be like, what happened to my good lotion?

998
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: Had my lip bomb? Like I'm gonna need that bad.

999
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: But listen, is there anything you want to make sure

1000
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: that we know that you have going on? Because you

1001
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: know Ruth and Boaz is out. Make sure y'all check

1002
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: that out on Netflix. We all had an opportunity to

1003
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: see it. You guys are gonna love it. This singing

1004
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: is phenomenal, That acting is phenomenal. The curly hair, let's

1005
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: get into that because I've been trying to make sure

1006
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, I've been trying to be all natural, and

1007
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: I did really enjoy her hair, her curly hairstyle yours.

1008
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: Thank you and looking at your her, so I'm like, yes,

1009
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: this is what they were going for, Like this really natural,

1010
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: like just go with the flow, crashing like yeah, not

1011
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: like overly done. They didn't want her to. They wanted

1012
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: her to feel very like a girl that you know,

1013
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: you know, and so I really appreciate that. And like

1014
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 3: I was telling you guys before we started, they really

1015
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: took time on the wig and like custom made the

1016
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: wig and like made sure it was a big thing

1017
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 3: about this hair. We tell y'all it looked good. They

1018
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: really know what I.

1019
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: Want to know what they're doing with it.

1020
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: They got it. Yeah, listen, they got to send you

1021
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: that wigi.

1022
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 3: Okay, that beautiful custom.

1023
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: You would really like give it a look, you know,

1024
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: really very pretty.

1025
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: It was very pretty, very delicate too. It was it

1026
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 3: was the finest wig I've ever Yeah.

1027
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: I was like, well, things like that can't be duplicated, right,

1028
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: and who else had that fit on? Right?

1029
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 2: It's that I don't know.

1030
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, so so the skincare line is going

1031
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: to be coming soon, I feel like absolutely okay, and

1032
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: especially when you have a baby, and you know, that's

1033
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: how Jessica Elvis started honest trying to trying to find

1034
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: products that was suitable, safe, and I I really am

1035
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: that person.

1036
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: Like if you follow me, follow me on Snapchat at

1037
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: Soria Love l Ov. I really get into like my

1038
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: skincare and I talk about different things and I've even

1039
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: posted different skincare stuff because I'm just super passionate about it.

1040
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: And I'm really into like the homeopathic way to which

1041
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: is like things in your house, like there's like tea tree,

1042
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: and there's sugar, and there's lemon and honey coconut. There's

1043
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: things that you can kind of like whip up that

1044
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: kind of that serve you. And sometimes I really feel

1045
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: like some of the chemicals are a bit harsh, especially

1046
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: for black and brown skin. So we have to remember

1047
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 3: that part of it. So yeah, don't get me.

1048
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 2: I feel like that's.

1049
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: All right. And anything else besides that, and.

1050
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yes music, I'm dropping some music soon. PDSO is

1051
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: out now.

1052
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: And yes, and you see yourself going on tour.

1053
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: I would love to. Let me tell you. I got

1054
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 3: an opportunity to go on tour with Tianna Taylor before,

1055
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: like years ago, and I couldn't do it because the

1056
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 3: Empire schedule. But you know it's cool because timing right,

1057
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: it's going to come back around and it's going to

1058
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: be perfect.

1059
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: If you need a DJ, I got you.

1060
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: I love that. It has to be hard to have

1061
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: to tearing stuff down because it's schedule issues. Yeah, that

1062
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: has to be one of the hunting things when you

1063
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: have like an opportunity and you're like, but I gotta

1064
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: do this here.

1065
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah literally, so, But but I would say that I'm

1066
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: also getting into my production hat. I'm me and my

1067
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: friend Brittany Wynbush. She's actually here in Brooklyn. We are

1068
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: I'm producing a nonscripted show. So it's a food and

1069
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: wine show. We would love to have you on an episode. Actually, okay,

1070
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: I can jump right.

1071
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: It's not a problem.

1072
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: It's it's it's a black girl that's dressed flies. She's

1073
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: going around the city and she's taking you into these

1074
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 3: really nice, sophisticated places, but making it asking all the

1075
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: questions that we may be afraid to ask or we

1076
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: may be embarrassed to ask. Okay, And when this started,

1077
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: just really quick. This started from a conversation that we

1078
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 3: actually had. So I'm actually alert allergic to oranges. Yeah,

1079
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: not all citrus, but for some reasoner pineapple orange.

1080
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it is to acidic, yes.

1081
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 3: Same, so I'm allergic to that. So we sat down

1082
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 3: for lunch one day and she's like ordering the wine.

1083
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: She knows so much about wine, so I'm learning from her,

1084
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: and she's like, yeah, we'll have the orange wine and

1085
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: then the waiter leaves. Of course, I wait till the

1086
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: waiter leaves and I'm like, girl orange, and she's like,

1087
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 3: oh no, there's no oranges.

1088
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: In it.

1089
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: And then at that moment, I was like, oh, and

1090
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 3: she's like, no, it's orange because the skin is left

1091
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: on the grapes and so from the contact of the

1092
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: skin being crushed, it creates the color. Hello. So in

1093
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: that moment something happened. It was very divine and I said,

1094
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is a show. And that was

1095
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 3: last year. So we've been kind of like coming up

1096
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 3: with these different episodes and trying to get it picked

1097
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 3: up for a year now, and we're finally at this

1098
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: place where we're gonna go actually with our girl, Kiki

1099
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: Palmer okay on key TV, So we're going to do

1100
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: like small segments on her platform. So I'm really excited for.

1101
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you gotta come. So I'm hosting the

1102
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: cookout with chefjj oh okay, and that's going to be

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00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: in New York on at So we're eighteen. But you know,

1104
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: Chef JJ owns Field Trip, a whole bunch of different restaurants.

1105
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Speaker 1: He's like a James Beard chef, and so if you're

1106
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: in town, you got to come to the cookout because

1107
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: you'll be all of the you know, all of the

1108
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: black chefs and everything in the city and he's got

1109
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: like an amazing event put together, so we need to

1110
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 1: love you to love like a food festival.

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Speaker 2: So she also loves connecting people.

1112
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: I do I think he would be good for you

1113
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: because yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll be helped. He has he

1114
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: actually has a cooking show on Cleo TV.

1115
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Speaker 3: So oh nice.

1116
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that might be something that's a good you know.

1117
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all about kind of just like representation and

1118
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 3: like we want to go to black owned wine vineyards.

1119
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 3: We want to do and sit down with black Somalier's

1120
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 3: and like we wanted to show that there's there's more

1121
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 3: out here.

1122
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, cool, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, Sirraya, thank you so much for joining us.

1124
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: This was fun having you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

1126
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're like a you know, Brooklyn person.

1127
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: Now she's definitely adopted you.

1128
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 3: She adopted me today.

1129
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have officially been ignited.

1130
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Speaker 1: It's Lift Service Hall of Fame.