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Speaker 1: It's so amazing just being here at this time.

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Speaker 2: Right with these kinds of movements, we're resurrecting a really

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Speaker 2: the intersection of psychedelic mom, medicine, woman, and sacred home.

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Speaker 1: Because we can exist all at once. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and I'm Mela.

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Speaker 3: Happy Wednesday Andie Wednesday, Darling, how are you feeling.

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Speaker 4: I'm high, So there's that. That's always nice. I did

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Speaker 4: awaken bank this morning. I haven't really been smoking too

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you like smoke weed consistently all the time.

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Speaker 4: I think like your body.

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Speaker 3: Gets like too used to it, too used to it.

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Speaker 1: This could either go really good or really bad.

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Speaker 4: And let's be honest, because if you've been listening to

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Speaker 4: So we're just gonna not We're gonna put that energy

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Speaker 1: I think you're fine.

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Speaker 3: A while ago, I was measuring the time in which

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Speaker 1: Well now if you say so, then yeah, I be true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling you know what do you want to You're

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Speaker 3: gonna join me in some meal and moans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just gonna take some deep breaths and let

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Speaker 3: out some deep, delicious moans.

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Speaker 4: You ready, Yeah, if you're listening. Don't close your eyse

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Speaker 4: while driving. If you're not driving, but if you're on

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Speaker 1: A deep inhale.

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Speaker 3: An exhil passionate sexy moons. Doesn't that feel good? As

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Speaker 3: a matter of fact, I already rolled it backward. It's

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Speaker 3: M Okay, that's something fine, all right, come on, let's

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so good.

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Speaker 5: Let me say, oh, bitch, feeling good?

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Speaker 4: You know what taking breaks from weed is the jam.

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Speaker 4: It is the jam because when you come back you

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Speaker 1: So, thank you, friend, You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: All of the OG retreat members are like, oh I

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Speaker 3: remember this, I like.

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Speaker 1: This you remember that from the retreat, y'all we're.

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Speaker 3: Doing Hey, hi, good vibe tribe. We do a lot

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Speaker 3: of sensual moaning sound. Lots of sounds happen at the retreat.

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Speaker 4: That's just level one sound. There's actually probably like four

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Speaker 3: And but only towards like the end of the retreat

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Speaker 1: It's almost like it's an unlocking. It's like Mario Kart.

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Speaker 3: It is like an unlocking that happens, and by the

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Speaker 3: end we all get our call, like the tribal call.

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Speaker 4: And you, guys, if you get your final attunement, like

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Speaker 4: here you go, like there's an orchestra of moaning women.

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Speaker 1: It's really beautiful. You must be what happened sounds like

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Speaker 1: it's true.

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Speaker 3: You'd be surprised the amount of like unlocking that can

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Speaker 1: So I'm happy.

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Speaker 3: I'm really I think we should start like incorporating that

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Speaker 4: If you want to moan with us more. We did

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Speaker 4: just announce our next retreat in Sayulita, Mexico. We're taking

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Speaker 4: over an amazing beautiful property it's all ours, it's private,

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Speaker 4: it's ocean front. Every room, it's ocean view, it's all inclusive.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be doing lots of moaning, lots of dancing.

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Speaker 1: Lots of releasing, lots of healing, lots of relaxing and

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Speaker 3: Yes, lots of manifesting as a collective, and of course

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go check out a lot of beautiful places

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Speaker 4: The other day, Iri was just singing Eric Abaudu like

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Speaker 1: Ho I do because we can exist all at once.

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Speaker 2: like bam, slap in a face, Like she'll just tell

445
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 2: you like everything that's wrong. Sometimes it just be like

446
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: I'll help you clear it out all right now. And mushrooms,

447
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: I find that they worked with me in a really

448
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: gentle way. So I'm grateful for that because I need

449
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: a gentleness.

450
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: I always say that mushrooms are a gentle a gentle shift.

451
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: Yes, some of your baby, let me show you you're

452
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: fucking up. I saw that.

453
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 4: I know you. You talk and share a lot of

454
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 4: your expertise and healing and womb care, and I was

455
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 4: reading or I was looking at your paging.

456
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: We're talking about using.

457
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: Mushrooms and other herbs too during I guess walk going

458
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 4: into your moon or your period for those who don't

459
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 4: know what that is, mental cycle and using it and

460
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 4: using plant medicine to you know, walk your journey through

461
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 4: through that those days. Can you talk to us about

462
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 4: what kind of medicine you use or maybe even what

463
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 4: you would recommend that maybe more women should you know,

464
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 4: tap into.

465
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: Absolutely so Yeah, womb care is such a deep continuum

466
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: and like I'm answering, of course, but just laying the

467
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: go ahead. No, no, I was gonna say.

468
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 4: I know it's a big question too, because everyone's needs

469
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 4: in this in this space too are different.

470
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: That's exactly it.

471
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: And every question is there's so many nuances. There's so

472
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: many like a variety of factors. Like the people with

473
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: pcos are all so extremely different than each other. The

474
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 2: people dealing with endo are extremely different from each other.

475
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: But you know, even in the language that that we

476
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: utilize to talk about our relationship with plants, like I

477
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: use mushrooms, I use plants, it's like, well, is that

478
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: relationship you try to use your friends. So being in

479
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 2: relationship with some plants have like really changed the way

480
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: that people cycle, people connect with their menstruation, people can heal.

481
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: So for me, some of my choice plants that are

482
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: absolute amazing boom allies. I really work with amenagogues. Amenagogues

483
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: are plants that help you bleed. That's what a menagogue means.

484
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: It's like it means to support the flow of your mensus.

485
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: And so for a lot of people they're dealing most

486
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: of the folks that I deal with and talk to

487
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: are like, am I pregnant? I don't want to be pregnant,

488
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: Like can you help me? You know, my periods late

489
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: for whatever reason. And so amenagogues have become like an

490
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: avenue that I've kind of focused in because it's a need,

491
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: especially in a post ro v Wade world right now.

492
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: And not only are amenagogues helpful for assisting bleeding, but

493
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: also easing the process of bleeding. So there's also a

494
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: lot of people that are dealing with like cramps, heavy

495
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: men strums, or like PMS or these other symptoms of

496
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: the womb. So when you said, you know plants leading

497
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: into your menstruation, like this is the period, we really

498
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: like to work with plants that have amenagogue properties and

499
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: also can like ease flow and allow us to release

500
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: in an easeful way. So the choice ofmenagogue plants that

501
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: I like to lean on during these times are I

502
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: love to work with Angelica root don Que is the

503
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: traditional Chinese medicine word for this plant, and it's a

504
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: uterine contractant and it also is a uterine tonic, so

505
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: it helps your uterus to like remain strong and have

506
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: a regular hormonal balance, and so Angelica.

507
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: Root is a choice.

508
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: You can use it through all phases of your cycle,

509
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: but right before menstruation. It seems to be really helpful

510
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 2: for bringing on the menstruation, like when it's due, whether

511
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: you're pregnant or not, which is cool. Also, I really

512
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 2: like to work with things like I work with nervines

513
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: a lot, So Holy Basil tallsy tea. If you are

514
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: familiar with Tolsi, I've heard of Holy Basil. They're the same, Okay,

515
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: Tulsi and Holy Basil are the same. So people that

516
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: are dealing with pre menstal symptoms and they're kind of

517
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: like irritated, for example, there's a lot of different needs

518
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: during that time of the cycle. But nervines. A nervine

519
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: means to kind of like soften the experience of the

520
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: nervous system. And sometimes like people when they're getting really

521
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: agitated or irritated, they just need a little bit of

522
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: like a soft like support, just like yo, it's gonna

523
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: be okay. Don't need a stress, don't need to get anxious.

524
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: So Holy Basil is choice. Rose is also choice, and

525
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: rose mostly in that the way that Rose is open,

526
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: they kind of like unferl And so when we're thinking

527
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: about released and we're thinking about bleeding, it can be

528
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: like this unfurling. They were like, oh, okay, I'm just

529
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: gonna like let myself open as opposed.

530
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: To like straining to like like I want to push

531
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: my blood out. It's like stuffing tampons up your pussy. Girl. Yeah,

532
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: It's just like.

533
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 2: This is not the time to make the body want

534
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: to shut up, since the time to like allow the

535
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: body full expression.

536
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 4: And I think, like, I mean, as women, we've been

537
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: kind of shamed in ways around that. I mean, I

538
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: know some women, if you're listening, might might have only

539
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: used pads or whole life, and that some women are

540
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 4: like super tamponed up, like you know, never even considered

541
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: a pad. I was one of those women, Like, I

542
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: don't think I even I think I maybe wore pads

543
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 4: for like the first five or six months of me

544
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: having my menstrual cycle, and then I figured out, I learned,

545
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: I like figured out how to put tampon it, and

546
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: it was over for well, pads.

547
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: Feel gross, right, like the high and like made of plastic, right, And.

548
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: It's just you know, I think like sometime in the

549
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: last like two years, I stopped using tampons at all

550
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: and now like and then just becoming more I guess,

551
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 4: less ashamed of your period and more aware of it.

552
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: And it's so crazy because in the last I'd say,

553
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: like last year, I've been having a lot of conversations

554
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: with women about their periods, and I think it's become

555
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: more not so it's just something you kind of like,

556
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 4: like are ashamed about. And I feel like the more

557
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: that I talk about it, the more I'm aware of it.

558
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: And even the more education I get around the idea

559
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 4: of rest when you have your period, I just realized

560
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: I'm so much more like aware of like how I

561
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 4: feel during my period. Even this last period I had,

562
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: I was like clotting a lot, and like I was

563
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: just feeling really tired, and normally I wouldn't even associate

564
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 4: my period with why I'm tired. I'm just like, oh,

565
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 4: it must be like stressed out or something, or like,

566
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: you know, you're not associating the fact that you are.

567
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: Like releasing a ton of nutrients.

568
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 4: I would say hemorrhaging, but yeah, it's not it's not

569
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: a nice word to say.

570
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Either, Right, you're shedding an into metrial, Yeah, based in shame.

571
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: You're not hemorrhging. Girl, You're gonna survive. You're not going

572
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: to die, right.

573
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: Some people are, though, and I think that's actually important

574
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: to address, is that some people like are cycling in

575
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: a way that there's like a giant body dump that's happening,

576
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: and not every period needs to be heavy. Like they

577
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: say that the menstrual cycle is like the fifth vital sign.

578
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: Like looking at how often you menstruate and how heavily

579
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: and for how long can really give us an indication

580
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: of health. And so if someone is like filling up

581
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: like super jumbo tampons like four seven days straight or

582
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: something like, that's actually something we we might want to

583
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: look at and be like, can we bring in some

584
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: other plant allies for example black haw and black haw

585
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: was like used also in the South, and so for

586
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: women of the like African diaspora, like this is maybe

587
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: a plant that they would have come in contact with

588
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: and it softens, you know, contractions, It could stop an

589
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: abortion like in its tracks. So it like really releases

590
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: the edge on like the uterus and can soften cramps

591
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: and can like really slow down bleeding. So kenyaro, So

592
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: like plants can do so many things, and edge is liberations.

593
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: So if people are like, there's no shame in saying

594
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: like hemorrhaging, because that shit does happen, But it's not

595
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: to shame the person for experiencing it.

596
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: It's to use it as a sign.

597
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: It's to read it as a marker of health, and

598
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: plants can support a person coming into balance with.

599
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: Their own health and they're bleeding. Yeah, it's so crazy.

600
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: How like so early on we kind of know immediately

601
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: not it's like it's a hush hush say, it's not anything,

602
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: like it's nothing to necessarily be.

603
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: Still my peers.

604
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we celebrated as like fuck, you know, like

605
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: even I got my period and I told my dad

606
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: and he's like, what make it stop? I can, And

607
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: then I immediately the whole society immediately, I.

608
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: Was like, tampon.

609
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to like have to deal with this thing.

610
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: Like you know, if it's in, it's out, I don't

611
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: see it type thing. But I think people because we're

612
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: so shamed of it, and it's such like a hush

613
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: hush topic.

614
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: So early is that we like even as you're.

615
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: Discussing like developing relationships with herbs, developing even like you know,

616
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: in school, I'm in Tangard school, like developing relationships with elements,

617
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, like like I'm realizing the importance of like

618
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: the development of the relationship of like even the things

619
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: that we haven't.

620
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: Put a lot of emphasis on.

621
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: And I think it's so interesting because like if I

622
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: think about it, I for a long this is not

623
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: a popular statement, but like I would forget like I

624
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: was bleeding and I would just like be pantiless, and

625
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: then I'm like, oh, fuck, you know, like my first

626
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: instinct is not to stuff.

627
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: It or like to feel it. I talk about that.

628
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: And I was like there was like there wasn't a

629
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: word for that, because I was like, bitch, you were done.

630
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: You keep bleeding on the floor, Like could go put

631
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: something on, like this is like in my house. But

632
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: I started to notice that, like I was my body

633
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: didn't feel like I needed to be like like but

634
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 3: socially it was like if anyone was like, bitch, you're

635
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: drooping on the floor, it was only.

636
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: Something that I was aware.

637
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: Like I started to be like subconsciously aware of or

638
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: consciously aware of that I really didn't want to be

639
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: wearing these things. And then like we Erica got me

640
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: the body body what is that like of the panty

641
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: in the period Shout out to Manti Vaughn, but right now,

642
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: right and I was thinking about even what you're saying,

643
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: Like in the last two three years, you know, we

644
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: you know, we've come into contact with women that we're

645
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: having conversations about the mental and how you know, once

646
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: upon a time, everyone in the village would give the

647
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: whoever's on their period their prayers and they would go

648
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 3: away and only take like only take the small babies

649
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: that can, you know, like the kids go Everyone was

650
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: kind of in.

651
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: Like prayer mode.

652
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 3: Like we were like women were connecting with spirit and

653
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: with source and everyone because we.

654
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: Could do this thing together, you know, in these in

655
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: these red tents.

656
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: And then I'm thinking, like, as our show has progressed

657
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: and like we've strengthened our like we've become more aware

658
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: of certain things and like more bold and speaking about

659
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: things and talking to different educators and different people. It's

660
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: like we have been like awakened in ways and like

661
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: less shamed about like, yeah, I stopped taking breath control

662
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: last night, you know, you know, like fucking Nelly talking

663
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: about her moon, you know, and encouraging me to get

664
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: out of birth control. But it's like we've attracted a

665
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: lot of witches, you know, like in our circle, because

666
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: this is how that's how the world works. When you

667
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: put your vibration out, you get your people. So it's

668
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: just like the even the awakening, and you even saying

669
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: in the beginning the resurrecting, Like last week I changed

670
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: my bio and I was like resurrecting the wild women,

671
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: and then I like let it sit for seven days,

672
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: and I was like resurrecting.

673
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: People might get triggered by that and I change into

674
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: something else.

675
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: But I'm like, it's true, because this is information that

676
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: our bodies know, that our spirits know that we've visited before,

677
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: and they're familiar to us and we don't know why.

678
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: And if you're not careful, like that is some of

679
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: my people hippy ash shit, like I don't do that, girl,

680
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: But it's like, actually you do, and you've done it before,

681
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: and now it's time to remember, you know, like the

682
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: relationships with like energies and plants and your period, and

683
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: like the reawakening, the re emerging of that natural indigenous

684
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: human that we've been brainwashed away from the.

685
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: Earth relies on our blood, gives her blood. And let's

686
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: talk about menstrual harvesting. Let me talk about that. Yeah,

687
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: it's like phase one is free bleed. Two is giving

688
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: blood to the land.

689
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: No, it's and and also just yeah, how to how

690
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: to hold your mental blood?

691
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: How to capture e mental blood.

692
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: I used to really talk about this a lot on TikTok,

693
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: and TikTok's like, nah, you can not share your mental

694
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: blood on this latform anymore. It just looks like video down,

695
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: video down, video down. I was like, no more, I

696
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: need to see this because it's going away one way

697
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: or another. So does it want to be in a

698
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: tampon at a Walmart or do you want to have

699
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: access to your own body parts and be able to

700
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: have some agency around where it goes and what you

701
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: would like to do with it, because it's just not

702
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: biological waste and the like concept and the idea that

703
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 2: menstrual fluid is biological waste product comes from Hippocrates, comes

704
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: from a Greek scientist who was couldn't have been more

705
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: wrong about what menstruation was. It also comes from Aristotle,

706
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: who is seen as like the father of biology, and

707
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: he really believed that like women get like all stored

708
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: up with this mania and that the only way to

709
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: curate is to just like get pregnant or get married.

710
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: And so it's just like the whole society.

711
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: Was misogynistic, and our Western medical culture is like based

712
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: on hippocratic oaths, based around the frameworks laid out by

713
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: these Greek guys that just had no idea about like

714
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: the magic and the medicine and menstruation, and they stole

715
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: a lot of shit from ancient Egypt. Like we all

716
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: know that the Pythagorean theorem was like already laid out

717
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: in the Egyptian pyramids. So it's just like, bro, like

718
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 2: what are we even trying to do here? That whole

719
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: the Egyptian and Kmetic society had already laid out such

720
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: an incredible framework for like understanding the needs of the

721
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: bleeding body, so much so than in the Ebers Papyrus

722
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred BC, there was a recipe for abortion and

723
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: a gynecological aspect of its manual to like serve bleeding bodies.

724
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, you're gonna take everything, but you're

725
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 2: not even gonna take this vital piece of information about

726
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: menstrual blood. And so for the last twenty six hundred years,

727
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: we've been under the impression that menstrual blood is that

728
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: would power the woman.

729
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, of course they're not gonna take that.

730
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 4: That would definitely not empower and they're not gonna they're

731
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: not gonna hold onto my e either, which I was

732
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: like that like one of the shame us and make

733
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: us all feel weird even listening to this conversation. For

734
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: those that are listening and are like, oh my god,

735
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: they're talking about putting menstrual blood and period blood and

736
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: what are they doing?

737
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: What are they doing with our blood?

738
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: There's so and there's and there's so many benefits to

739
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: not just holding onto one's own menstrual blood and like

740
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: offering it to the land. But there are nutritional components

741
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: of menstrual blood. I mean, this is the original soil

742
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: from which the sperm or a.

743
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Seed will be implanted.

744
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: So think of like the uterine lighting as like the

745
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: rich soil of the earth essentially, and like all the

746
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: nutrients needed in order to nourish a life and support

747
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: it in its earliest phases, which seem to be the

748
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: most important, are are contained within. So that includes stem cells,

749
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: that includes over three hundred and twenty four different proteins

750
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: that are only found in mentural blood.

751
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: That the earth like just loves.

752
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: And when I say the earth, I mean literally the

753
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: microbiology in the soil, and so capturing mentual blood can

754
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: happen a lot of different ways. I'm currently bleeding and

755
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm using a sponge, So sponges are really important to me.

756
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: They feel a little bit more natural to me. They're

757
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: like really soft there. I know you're in the sponge

758
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: game too, but these are Mediterranean silky like cosmetic grade sponge,

759
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: so they're very very soft, and they're extremely absorbent and

760
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: like you just kind of stick them in and then

761
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: like pull them out. And I think also the conversation

762
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: of like our gross like, oh it's like mustural blood.

763
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: It's kind of messy, like gets on your fingers. But

764
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: how am I supposed to know the health of my

765
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: body if I can't even see the blood, Like I

766
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: need to see the color, the texture, smell it, like

767
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: get a really deep understanding for like what is within

768
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: my body. And the only way to know what's happening

769
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: in your uterus without medical equipment.

770
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Is to read your menstrual blood.

771
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: So the sponge is often what I use and then

772
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: I just rint it with water and squeeze into a bowl,

773
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: and I just have a beautiful bowl of like water

774
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: down mental blood that I can feed to my plants's fertilizer,

775
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: I can give to my garden. I can just leave

776
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: as an offering for the land. And I was taught

777
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: by a white sister of mine. Really early in my game.

778
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: I had tons of mentors, Like everything that I'm fucking

779
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: sharing right now is someone else taught me. And that's

780
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: like the beauty of the womb link because we don't

781
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: own any of this information.

782
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: This is like word of mouth. This is folk teaching.

783
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: Like we're just sitting in circle. We're in a pink

784
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: tent right now, you know, like teaching the womb wisdoms.

785
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: And this is how it was always shared. And she

786
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: said that.

787
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: When we remember to give our blood to the land,

788
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: the men will come back from war. The land is

789
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: going to receive it, one way or another. And so, Mestro,

790
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: blood is the only blood that is shed without violence.

791
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: So if we can tip the scales a little bit,

792
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: maybe we can tip the balance of violence in the world.

793
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: And it's like literally like quite literally like like harvesting

794
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: right back into the like to the world. It's like

795
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 3: community work from your body like in the physical realm,

796
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, and we think about the energetically, we think

797
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: about the shift, like the feminine like dominance that you know,

798
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: the resurrecting that's happening with the women, and like the

799
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: like we're resurrecting, and like the wild woman is like

800
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: re emerging and so like when you are physically pouring

801
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: yourself back into the world, and that is physically pouring

802
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: that but femininity like hey, yeah, wake up.

803
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are like encoding the land with our our dream,

804
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: our DNA.

805
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: And that's that's an important point. Actually, there's like an

806
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: old trick in gardening. So so my friends they like

807
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: grow cannabis and things. So I'd love to bring something

808
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: maney back into this conversation, but there's an old school

809
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: practice of putting seeds in the mouth. And so what

810
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: that does is it gives the seeds your DNA and

811
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: so when you go and plants and it grows.

812
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: It grows for you like before you come, That's what

813
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

814
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: So that the seeds are in your mouth, you plant

815
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: it and then it grows with your DNA in mind.

816
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: Because it's like entrenched in it. And so as breastfeeding mothers,

817
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: we know and have been hopefully taught that when babies

818
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: are suckling, their salivary glands are communicating to the breast,

819
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: to the body, and the body is now making milk

820
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: to fit their nutritional needs. How is the earth going

821
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: to know what we need if we're not sweating and

822
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: bleeding and pouring into it. So when we give the blood,

823
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: when we give our tears, when we give whatever we

824
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: want to give to the land, it's telling the earth like,

825
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: this is me, this.

826
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: Is what I an, this is what I need right now.

827
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: And I've had plants pop up in my garden that

828
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: I've been needed because I've been pouring out. And she's

829
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: reading like she's activating seeds that are fucking dormant just

830
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: because she can feel like what is needed in that DNA.

831
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: So this is part of this conversation of like also rematreation,

832
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: like rematreating psychedelics. So rematreation means like the action, the

833
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: everyday action of reinforcing our relationship to mother Earth, like

834
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: reinforcing like the divinity of the human family and all

835
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: the non human relatives with our place here on the

836
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 2: land and part of the colonization practice was to remove

837
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: people from land.

838
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: Oh have they and oh have they?

839
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: And so for us to come back to the land,

840
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: for us to give our blood back and you know,

841
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: give our placentas back after birth. That's something that we

842
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: are choosing to do. Like this is tying us so

843
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: intimately with the land. It's like we will die to

844
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: protect it because we are literally in the land.

845
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: Now.

846
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: I planted my placentae, I'm glory tree on top of it,

847
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: and like that was like that was just my first mind,

848
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: Like you're not gonna take all my like my all

849
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: my shit, Like I don't trust that you're gonna like.

850
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Like go to the medical waste anywhere. Well that's what

851
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: they said. They know, they know, they know the power

852
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: of we do they do ye.

853
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're using it for themselves. And I was like, no,

854
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: I brought my own container. I'll take that. And now

855
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 3: the tree is huge, it's like a huge tree and

856
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: it's been feeding off of that, and I didn't Like

857
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: that was just my first mind because I'm not gonna

858
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: send this off to get encapsulated, Like, but you're not

859
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: gonna take my ship in the freezer, like just plan.

860
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: To bring it down into the earth.

861
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I just like even thinking about,

862
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: you know, living in a country that has really taken

863
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: people and put them in a foreign place.

864
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I.

865
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: Often I've often thought about that, like how confusing for

866
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: the like I mean, it's apparent in our culture, you know,

867
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: like African American like history is so dark. But like

868
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: when you take someone's music, their culture, their religion, their

869
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: their sense of self, their you know, their pride, there

870
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 3: is so much confusion everything they're everything. You literally you

871
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: literally set off with people into like the abyss of

872
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: like white supremacy and pay like the patriarchy, and it's

873
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: like that's a very confusing you know. Obviously there's like

874
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: a state of confusion amongst the people. And we've seen

875
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: that in so many ways. And it's like it's interesting

876
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: what you're saying is because you don't necessarily have to

877
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: go back to.

878
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: The motherland to get that again.

879
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: But if we take the time to just connect to

880
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: the land anywhere, like we will start to like awaken

881
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: these things because we are genetically you know, like that

882
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: we're connected no matter what, no matter where.

883
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: We're our DNA is in the land yeah, a really

884
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: dope herbalist. Sorry, do you want to go and say

885
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: something first? A really dope herbalist, She taught me. She's

886
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: so cool too. We yeah, we were sitting in a

887
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: mushroom circle and then in the morning we do earth

888
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: based integration, so we like go back to the land

889
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: and like re situate ourselves in the earth. And she

890
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: came and she led like a really beautiful plant walk,

891
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: and she told all of us that the best way

892
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: to introduce yourself to a new piece of land is

893
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: to pee on it.

894
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: I was like, why do that shit? Anyway, I'm planting

895
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: my d all over the world. I knew I was

896
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: with land one way or another.

897
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: Was the and all of these things that connect us

898
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: are like seeing as savage, Like people look at you

899
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: with your blood on the ground, or like you peeing

900
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: outside be like ew, that's so like unproper, that's so like.

901
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: Savage, and it's like good, it can happen.

902
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 6: Good.

903
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm a human being. I'm a human animal. It's okay

904
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 2: to be a human.

905
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: A human animal. It's true. You were gonna say something

906
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: I forgot, Okay, Yeah, I have so much to say.

907
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm like defense conversation you know, it's even back to

908
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: the comment like even you know, me and Eric often

909
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: say even me and Erica often say like and I

910
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 3: did this, I did your thing the other day about

911
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: like the anatomy of the woman, like so many women

912
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: haven't even like looked at their vaginas, like you know,

913
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: like no one's ever told you go look.

914
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: At your vaginants, look like a rose. Like my mom

915
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: never told me to look at my vagin in the bear.

916
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: You know, it does. But you know, Erica did it

917
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: with her daughter, and I didn't think that the opportunity

918
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: hadn't really come up, but then recently it did. And

919
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: I was like, come here.

920
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: She's like what.

921
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: I was like, come here, and I closed to my

922
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: life with her, and I'm like, and I put a

923
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 3: mirror and I was like, have you ever looked at

924
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: you Dina? And she's like no, stop. I was like, no,

925
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: you should look at it, but you know, and she

926
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: was all like, okay, Mom, I'm like, you see, like

927
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: this is how you know how to wash it.

928
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: This is your outer laby, this is your inner laby.

929
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: This is like where you pee from.

930
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: You know. I'm like, no, you have to look at it.

931
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: So it's yours.

932
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: It's you. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

933
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, mommy has it, like you know, it looks

934
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: different and it's going to you know, evolve, but like.

935
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: So I has to clean correctly.

936
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: I was really excited to have this opportunity because Eric

937
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: had been done it, and I was like, when is.

938
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: It going to be my time? You have to make

939
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: the time.

940
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: But like this conversation us being feeling innately shamed about

941
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: our period, like you don't really like a period, or

942
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: like even for me now, like there's certain things like

943
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: people certainly like like you know that some things seem abrasive,

944
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like, why am I?

945
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: You know?

946
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 3: Because I love birth. I am a birth like consuming

947
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: bitch on YouTube. I showed my daughter like so much

948
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: natural birth. So she's like, I don't want to have

949
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: kids on this car life. But it's like that same

950
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: concept that you know, I always think, like how can

951
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: you really know your full self if you're afraid to

952
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: look at your.

953
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: Vagina in the mirror?

954
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: You know, like if you're not acknowledging, it's usually you're

955
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: not acknowledging your pleasure.

956
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: You're not acknowledging certain parts you have to.

957
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 4: Take it you have to like take a step further.

958
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, now the blood, Now what else? What

959
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: else that comes through? I was thinking about just I

960
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: think a lot of the shame, at least for girls

961
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: or young young girls when they get their period is

962
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 4: like that first time that.

963
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: They bleed through their like tants, or they bleed.

964
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 3: It's so or they bleed on the bed, or even

965
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: if you see it, like I've seen a tampon string

966
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: out of a bathing suit, that's just like mortifying. I

967
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: had my time string at a nude beach and I

968
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: was like, ah, I was like, but you're at a

969
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 3: nude beach.

970
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: Is terrified but no protection.

971
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: But I think about like those moments are really defining

972
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 4: for a young woman and also just you know how

973
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: the person, like how her parents reacts to it and

974
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: can totally change the trajectory of your And you know,

975
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: I've talked about this on the podcast about like my

976
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: first period experience and my mom. The first thing she

977
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: said was, first of all, there was panic. It was

978
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: on my eleventh birthday and I was a pool party

979
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 4: birthday of course, of course, and you know her like

980
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: I could see her trying to keep it cool. But

981
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 4: I was like anxious because I wasn't prepared for this.

982
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: I don't even think I knew what a period was like.

983
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: She had hid her period from me, so I didn't

984
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 4: know that it existed, and so there I was bleeding.

985
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: Why do moms do that?

986
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I don't they think they're

987
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: gonna warn you that you might fall off a bike,

988
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: but not that you're gonna bleed between your legs for

989
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 4: four days?

990
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck? Yeah, it seems basic, and.

991
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, I remember bleeding, and then you know, it

992
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, it was like almost like

993
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: like this hurry and clean up thing. I think this

994
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: is not like a slight to her at all, you know,

995
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: but there was that, and then it was like, oh,

996
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: now you can get pregnant, and I was like, whoa,

997
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: there's a lot of information, but I didn't even know

998
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 4: why the fuck I'm bleeding, you know. And so you know,

999
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 4: I think that there's a lot of shame wrapped around

1000
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: those first experiences with when you're a young girl, and

1001
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: then you know, as you mature and your period changes,

1002
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: and you know, even noticing this my last period, I

1003
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: was clouding, and I normally like my periods are pretty

1004
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 4: like easy, and so even because I'm so much more

1005
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 4: mindful and like something feels different.

1006
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: I feel more tired.

1007
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 4: And I was curious even this month, like what did

1008
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: I what's different in me? Like that is that this

1009
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 4: is like a shift and like I swear I had

1010
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 4: this like I had this like instinct to like go

1011
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: into the toilet and pick it up, and like I

1012
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: wanted to touch it, and I didn't do it because

1013
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 4: I was like that's.

1014
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: Fucking weird and I don't, but like why not? Like

1015
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: why not?

1016
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

1017
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Like it is of me I have.

1018
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: Like when it's something like sick and it's it's a

1019
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: little bit like there's been times where I have.

1020
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: Touched like like yeah, like like you know, like the

1021
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 4: toilet paper, but like have I ever touched it really

1022
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: really looked at it?

1023
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: Said what the fuck is it? Why is it this

1024
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: month and last month? Like you feeling the.

1025
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 4: Health of your womb totally, But like we talk about

1026
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: womb care so much on the internet. There's all these

1027
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 4: womb cares and all these different things, but there's still

1028
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: I think a lack of an avoidance that happens you

1029
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 4: want other people to handle your womb care like there's

1030
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: still this like lack of sovereignty over your womb. You

1031
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 4: want people to deal with it for you, even even

1032
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: in a holistic way. And you know, I think, like

1033
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 4: even me in my mind, you know, I'm not gonna lie.

1034
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: I saw your video where you were putting blood on

1035
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: your face. Thankfully that was just red paint, because I

1036
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: knew I was going to But I said, I had

1037
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: to ask myself, like so, like why is that weird?

1038
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: You know?

1039
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: And there's there is like a huge stigma around using

1040
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 4: what comes from our body for things. But we will

1041
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: fucking let a man that all over our face swallow

1042
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 4: it in five seconds, you know.

1043
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: Like to.

1044
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: Like give me smili put all my face and go

1045
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: and then go tell your friends.

1046
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 3: And then he meted out my face and but we're afraid.

1047
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: But I would never tell I have a little blood

1048
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 3: on my touch.

1049
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: My clot observed it. Like so this morning I went

1050
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: to my clots. Everything seems normal. I tested my NCA

1051
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: is not. Everything seems good.

1052
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 6: I was really healthy.

1053
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: Radical body literacy is just not as hot as being

1054
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 4: a fucking you know, being a point.

1055
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: Your sacred hotus and our bomb care together that's one

1056
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: no hierarchy.

1057
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: Well, and I'm just like, yo, can can men feel

1058
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: like as loving and as confident with like mental blood

1059
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: all over their face? I've hadn't I mean, I've.

1060
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 4: Met that are not scared of it, not scared of

1061
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: blood at all. And then I've had ones that are

1062
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 4: like I'll wait, like I don't want like this. And

1063
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 4: I've had literally a guys say like, isn't that your

1064
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 4: time to bleed? Like shouldn't you like go away?

1065
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: Go away? Basically do your do your like trying to

1066
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: tell me what the like intimacy is my thing right now?

1067
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: Like what do you mean telling me what I should

1068
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 4: be doing with my body?

1069
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna tell me just that you don't want

1070
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: to want to do that?

1071
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: They're scared, But you know what also, I don't know

1072
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: where I was we were watching but Orbert I was

1073
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: listening to, but they were saying that, you know, just

1074
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: like the power of mentional bud is like the highest

1075
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 3: level of like ritual that you can like participate in

1076
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: sex magic and blood magic.

1077
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, like and you could get both

1078
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: with having sex on your parents and.

1079
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: Exactly and I've done that, but like even you know,

1080
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: like me and Orlando's blood bond, which is like, I

1081
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: don't know whatever inspired me to allow some guy that

1082
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: I knew for a month to put blood on my

1083
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: chest from his initials, but ever since then we've been

1084
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 3: rocking hard, you know, so it works, you know, But

1085
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: that's what he's be careful of having period sex with people,

1086
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: like and just like respecting respecting the fluids that come

1087
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 3: of your body and like not just like throwing them away.

1088
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: And it comes with also just respecting the the sovereignty

1089
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: and the divinity of your existence. And I think that's

1090
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: that's like, that's also transitions, like the big words you

1091
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: used and you know, remembering you're the divine in your.

1092
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 4: Sag and theugen and theugen like blood is an enttheogenog.

1093
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like I feel like it's like a

1094
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: one of the ceremonies and you know, coming back to

1095
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: your own divinity and like being aware of the substances

1096
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: that you know, even like breast milk, like you know

1097
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 3: this what we secrete when we come, Like they're all

1098
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: sacred because they come from us and we were like

1099
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 3: divine goddess women.

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00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: We're just exuding elixirs of life. Yes from every orifis literally.

1101
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: I saw something on your page too about like how

1102
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 3: society should treat women that are bleeding. How should they

1103
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 3: treat us?

1104
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: Give us some damn rest, please, time off? Will work?

1105
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 4: Let us sleep, give us some food, give us some chill,

1106
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: Like I I really do feel like these women run

1107
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: businesses now.

1108
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: Are taking acknowledgment of this.

1109
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: But for the most part, like people working their nine

1110
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: to fives, they don't get time off or bleeding. There's

1111
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: no like, there's hardly even the mental health like time off.

1112
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: And then the.

1113
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: Maternity leave and extended family leave is a fucking atrocious

1114
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: in this country, So why would we even care about

1115
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: bleeding people?

1116
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: Definitely not caring about the bleeding people.

1117
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're barely even giving a shit about women who

1118
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: just gave birth.

1119
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: And that's also a part of the womb like the

1120
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 3: womb negligence that we're experience in society.

1121
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: Like even women don't feel.

1122
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 3: Empowered, don't know a lot about birth, so they're going

1123
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 3: into hospitals and just signing away like their whole rights,

1124
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 3: like do whatever. And then you come leave fucking cut

1125
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: open and you're wondering why because you gave that, Like

1126
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: we could disconnect from this part, and we're like, fucking,

1127
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with them and stuff it

1128
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: with tampons.

1129
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it to the doctor when it's time

1130
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: to birth.

1131
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: And like these are all like these are all times

1132
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: that are actually like rights of passage and and and

1133
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: like paths to source that if we had the tools,

1134
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 3: we could be tapping it into ourselves and to God.

1135
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: But we're so afraid of them because everyone said it's

1136
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: gross and weird that we just say like fuck it,

1137
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: you do it.

1138
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: I think these these divinities become really apparent when some

1139
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: people decide to build a relationship with Earth medicine, and

1140
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: in those experiences with Earth medicine.

1141
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: Like dive into their wombs.

1142
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: That's part of the care that I offer some people

1143
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: is like Yony steam we were talking about, there's so

1144
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: much that comes up during any steam that can come

1145
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: up during any steam, like maybe if you're not watching

1146
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 2: like a movie or whatever, but you know, it doesn't

1147
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: really matter. I just feel like people can like drop

1148
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: into their body, whether that's thoo dance, whether that's the

1149
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: Yoni steaming or like womb massage or bleeding time or

1150
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: being in postpartum, Like there are these times where you know,

1151
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: we can pull into our body a little bit and

1152
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: ask these questions of like what's going on.

1153
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: I want to massage myself, I want to feel myself.

1154
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: And to those experiences, I add mushrooms to those experiences

1155
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: where it's mushrooms have the capacity to bring us deeper

1156
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: into our bodies, So why not bring in these bodies

1157
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: practices and like reading our mental blood and being with

1158
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: our mental blood in incongruence with mushroombs. And I find

1159
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: that because mushrooms allow us like a non linear way

1160
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: of knowing something, it like brings us kind of to

1161
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: it can give us the image instead of the sentence

1162
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: like you're a bad person because of this. It like

1163
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: will show you or like demonstrate the feeling in your

1164
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: body that you get. And so when people like place

1165
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: hands on their womb and we're like in journey space

1166
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: and like we're sitting with our womb or we're like

1167
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: breathing and meditating or in my experience, I was going

1168
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: through it at home pregnancy release last year, and so

1169
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: while I was in my release process, I ate a

1170
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: gram of mushrooms because I was like, I really want

1171
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: to understand like why did I get pregnant and with who?

1172
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: And what does this release mean for me? Beyond the

1173
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: greater context of not right now, not this time. I'm

1174
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: like cosmically like what's the deal? What is the big

1175
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: lesson here? And I feel that mushrooms absolutely assisted me

1176
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: in like getting the gem, like the nugget of this

1177
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: is why you're going through this initiation right now, and

1178
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: this is the yes that the universe is allowing you

1179
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: to negotiate right now. It's not always like the no, no, no,

1180
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to get pregnant, no no no. It's

1181
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: like there's a teacher that talks about like tuning into

1182
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: the yes.

1183
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: What is the yes in the situations like.

1184
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 2: Yes, like I'm praying for life, I'm praying for another chance,

1185
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: like I'm praying for this lesson. Yes, I'm praying for

1186
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: the soul to be released back. And this can be

1187
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: a sacred process, and the mushrooms like reaffirming that divinity,

1188
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: reaffirming like the sex and the pregnancy releases and the

1189
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: breakups and those transitions like we know if we've talked

1190
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: about can be facilitated and made more like.

1191
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: A rite of passage. Ceremonial. Absolutely, I.

1192
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 4: Was I was just going to say, you know, on

1193
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 4: that note, I really I want to continue this conversation,

1194
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 4: but I want to continue it on Patreon because I

1195
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 4: think we're getting into like the nitty gritty of like

1196
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 4: a lot of like cool conversations that I think people

1197
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 4: are interested in. And you know, I know that you

1198
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 4: like when you're talking about you know, birth releases, like

1199
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 4: I think for those who do not know what that means,

1200
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: it means like at home abortions, right essentially, and that

1201
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: can be a really you know, difficult triggering topic for

1202
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 4: some people too, and and not knowing that they're not

1203
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 4: having the knowledge too around what that looks like and

1204
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: you actually having sovereignty over what that looks like and

1205
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 4: not being such a medicalized experience. And also I really

1206
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 4: want to talk to you about pregnancy and mushrooms, yeah, absolutely,

1207
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 4: which I think obviously is a super stigmatized, overly stigmatized topic.

1208
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1209
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: And obviously we gotta still dig into the sacred hoe.

1210
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, not done yet, absolutely, Yeah, aspects of the

1211
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: sacred Hoe, like preconception, conception, pregnancy, postpart and like it all,

1212
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: it's all within the sacre Hill archetype so like, and

1213
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: I haven't.

1214
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: I have so much of my business to tell. I

1215
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: have so many questions.

1216
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 4: So make sure you go and click the link of

1217
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 4: this episode description to hear the rest of this episode

1218
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 4: on Patreon. Make sure to go to Patreon or go

1219
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 4: to patreon dot com backslash Good Mom's Bad Choices to

1220
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: listen to the rest of this really interesting conversation with Mikayla.

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Speaker 1: Can I give to your gift?

1222
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 6: Yes?

1223
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: Please?

1224
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I heard might be in need of this

1225
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 4: both the sisters. So the sisters, how long have you

1226
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 4: not been on birth control? Probably since.

1227
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: Right after I had my daughters, like eight years. Wow.

1228
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm so excited for you to like come

1229
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: come back into your ovulatory cycles too, because that's gonna

1230
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like birth control, but it's really like

1231
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: ovulation suppression, and so you'll be ovulating really regularly, and

1232
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: so like your whole life is just gonna like catapult.

1233
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: So purple is for you. This is the Queen An's

1234
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: Lace tincture, and I want us to try it while

1235
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: we're here because it's really young passing it. Oh yeah,

1236
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: I won't make you bleed right now, but it's an implantation.

1237
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm already bleeding. I'm at the end of my toy. Good,

1238
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: okay bleed. No, no, no, she's good.

1239
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: It's this is an implantation inhibitors.

1240
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: They're the same. It's tan stured in tequila. It has

1241
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: a little.

1242
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: It has a little bit of cotton root bark syrup,

1243
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: so it's sweet and loving. Also cotton, there's a little

1244
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: bit in there. So go ahead and shake it up

1245
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: real good. And then what we like to pray is

1246
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: just like some intentions for our body. So we can

1247
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: shake and say or visualize right the desired outcome, which

1248
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: is to stay baby free for a little while longer,

1249
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: praying for release or whatever it is that feels right

1250
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: for you. And then you'll go ahead and open it,

1251
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: squeeze the top a little bit, and then drop it

1252
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: on the tongue or under, it doesn't matter that.

1253
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: Just like that and let it just sit in your

1254
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: mouth for a second and taste the tequila.

1255
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: This is Queen Ann's lace. She's a beautiful offering for

1256
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: your womb and your families. And to remember that there

1257
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: is a sacred yes in this negotiation, whether that's yes

1258
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: for medicine, yes for pregnancy, yes for pleasure. She can

1259
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: help us tune into our sacred Yes, so thank you

1260
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: so much for letting.

1261
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Me off for these tea both. Thank you absolutely, girl.

1262
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: I take shots of these.

1263
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: The reason I even have these for others is because

1264
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: I make five gallons a year.

1265
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: That's it, five gallons, one badge and.

1266
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 4: Then and then I keep it from my command to

1267
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: take these one exactly. So after seemen exposure exposure, yeah,

1268
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 4: you had, you had intimacy. That's my natural birth control guide.

1269
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 4: You get to scand that into your phone. Eighteen pages

1270
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 4: of education, free.

1271
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Books, videos, all this good shit. So that's yep, that'll

1272
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: take you to it. And so just education is liberation.

1273
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: And so a lot of people don't step into this

1274
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: path because they just don't know what's available. So just

1275
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: helping people to know that this is available, accessible and

1276
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: honestly not very expensive either. And really back to that literacy,

1277
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: back to like I can hold myself and my community

1278
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: can hold me too, is such a luscious and sexist feeling.

1279
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: I love this.

1280
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, and we'll definitely include the links to

1281
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 4: your shop and all of your offerings in this episode

1282
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 4: description before we get out of here. Two things do

1283
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 4: you have an affirmation that you can share with our tribe.

1284
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: I am the embodiment of my ancestors's wildest dreams.

1285
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 4: I am the embodiment of my ancestors' wildest dreams.

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01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 4: I resonate with that. I've had a few very clear

1288
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: moments in that feeling. I mean, this is one of them,

1289
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: but like very distinct moments, especially near water where that.

1290
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: Comes up for me.

1291
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and we did poor, not poor, We pulled the

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01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 4: page of Swords.

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01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 3: Page of Swords is new ideas, curiosity, thirst for knowledge,

1294
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 3: new ways of communicating.

1295
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: It's so interesting.

1296
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 3: We're communicating with the plans.

1297
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: That's right.

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01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 3: The Page of Swords is full of energy, passion, and enthusiasm.

1299
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 3: When this card shows up in a Tari reading, you're

1300
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 3: bursting with new ideas and plans for the future. You

1301
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 3: may be excited about starting a new project, pursuing a

1302
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: new approach, or learning something new. I am you have

1303
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 3: so much energy that you feel though you could do

1304
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 3: almost anything, and you can. You can have sovereignty over

1305
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 3: your body.

1306
01:02:54,800 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought that was like really, challenge, however, is

1307
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: whether you can keep it up.

1308
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 3: As with all pages, the beginning always looks promising, but

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Speaker 3: you need something else to follow through and keep up

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Speaker 3: the pace. The page of swords can often emerges when

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Speaker 3: you are exploring a new way of thinking, a new idea,

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Speaker 3: a new perspective, new knowledge, or a.

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Speaker 1: New technique like birth control.

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Speaker 3: You have a curious mind and a thirst for knowledge.

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Speaker 3: As you explore this fresh way of thinking, you're asking

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Speaker 3: lots of questions. Plans are you for me on gathering

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Speaker 3: as much information as possible? Gathering plants. You're also very

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Speaker 3: much in the exploratory phase and not mastery. You may

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Speaker 3: be prone to making mistakes along the way, but your

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Speaker 3: curiosity means that you are eager to learn from your

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Speaker 3: slip ups. As a sword fromanized communication, this page of

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Speaker 3: swords suggests that you are exploring a different way of

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Speaker 3: expressing yourself with others and communicating your ideas and opinions.

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Speaker 3: You may be drawn to public.

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Speaker 1: Speaking, what the book, writing a book.

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Speaker 3: Or a blog, starting a podcast, or more vocal on

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Speaker 3: social media. You're a natural communicator and ready to take

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Speaker 3: the next step to share your message with the world. Again,

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Speaker 3: this is an exploratory phase, so be open to new

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Speaker 3: ways of expressing yourself and discovering where your inner talent

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Speaker 3: lies love it.

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Speaker 1: I love that, and hopefully also for other people in

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Speaker 1: the audience too to be resonating with these messages, because

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Speaker 1: if this is new for people, I hope it like

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Speaker 1: encourages people to like still feel hungry. No, I think.

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Speaker 4: I think there's so much rich information in this space.

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Speaker 4: And if you, if you, if you didn't get to

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Speaker 4: tune into Patreon, I want to encourage you to because

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Speaker 4: we had a really beautiful conversation over there, and then

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Speaker 4: we really got to dig deep and really explore new

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Speaker 4: things that I'm really interested in learning more about. So

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Speaker 4: I'm really grateful that you've come on the show and

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Speaker 4: shared all your knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Is so knowledgeable. I know you're so smart. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I feel so happy that I have a friend that hey,

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Speaker 3: your off questions, you know, and it's.

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Speaker 4: Just like honing this toolbox, this toolbox that you know,

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Speaker 4: we feel like again we're putting these tools in other

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Speaker 4: people's hands when we have them. We have all the

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Speaker 4: things that we need right here in front of us.

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Speaker 4: We don't need to spend you know, thousands of dollars

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Speaker 4: on things that they're mimicking in nature, right and they're

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Speaker 4: like right here, absolutely, did you have a whorri that

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Speaker 4: you can share with us, a whole ass story about

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Speaker 4: hotel you sacred, tell you ah who stories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes when I'm in like the peak of orgasm,

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Speaker 2: I teleport mm or I have this like embodied experience

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Speaker 2: of kind of being in like a different space and time.

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Speaker 1: The brain does amazing things when you're orgasming.

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Speaker 2: So it's just like I have had visions in sex,

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Speaker 2: and so I'm thinking of two stories. One where I

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Speaker 2: was with a dear friend of mine who we had

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Speaker 2: this funny relationship and I didn't quite put my finger

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Speaker 2: on why, but when we had sex, it became really clear.

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Speaker 2: Or what would you rather hear about a teleport to

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Speaker 2: a past life experience that was actually proven to be true?

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Speaker 1: Oh that one sounds kind of cool like that.

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Speaker 2: So that was so I was actually sitting with mushrooms

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Speaker 2: and I was with my partner, my baby daddy now,

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Speaker 2: and we were intimate in my college space, my college apartment,

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Speaker 2: which was like a trip dome.

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Speaker 1: Like it had like a black light.

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Speaker 2: I had all these cold posters and is like the

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Speaker 2: you know, I guess stereotypical like tripping room, and so

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Speaker 2: all of that show was on it was just beautiful

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Speaker 2: lighting in there, and I was intimate with him and

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Speaker 2: I was like I was peeking. I was riding him,

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Speaker 2: and then I started like getting really emotional, like I

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm not going to see you again. I

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Speaker 2: don't know why I'm missing you so much, but you're

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Speaker 2: like right here, and I started holding him. I was like,

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01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: don't go, and he's like, I'm not going anywhere, and

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Speaker 2: I'm just like I then got brought back to an

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Speaker 2: experience where I was living on an island and he

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Speaker 2: was in like military gear and I looked at him

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Speaker 2: and he was leaving, and we had had this like

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Speaker 2: relationship while he was deployed or stationed like in my region,

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Speaker 2: and so I had this like big like release of

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Speaker 2: like the orgasm and also just this like I'm never

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Speaker 2: going to see him again. And so when I came down,

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Speaker 2: I told him. I was like, hey, I had this

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01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: really strange shift where I looked different and you looked different.

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Speaker 2: I was crying because like, you were leaving and I

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Speaker 2: was on an island.

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Speaker 1: I was on Hawaii. It was really clear.

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Speaker 2: I was on Hawaii and you were in military uniform

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Speaker 2: and you were leaving. And he's like that's so funny

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Speaker 2: because like my great grandfather was like stationed in Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: Like many generations before.

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Speaker 2: That, And I was like, I feel and ever since

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Speaker 2: I had first met him, like I felt like I'd

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Speaker 2: known him from somewhere as the day we met, the

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01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: night we met, I was like I know him from somewhere,

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01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: Like he's super familiar to me. And so me telling

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Speaker 2: him that, I was like, yeah, I have this weird

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01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: storyline with you that like you left after some point

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Speaker 2: and it was so sweet because he's like, well, I'm

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01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: not gonna leave right now, and like it was really dope.

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Speaker 2: It just like reaffirms to me that sometimes these like

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Speaker 2: hunches that we have or this like feeling of familiarity

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Speaker 2: with some folks, I really do believe a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of us are circling around in each other.

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Speaker 2: It was like over and over, and that orgasm is

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Speaker 2: a portal, and so I was like just brought to

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Speaker 2: the space where maybe at a certain time that his

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Speaker 2: family member and like myself or a family member of

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Speaker 2: mine might have had this actual exchange some time. Wow,

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Speaker 2: And oreasm brought me to that, And mushrooms brought me

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Speaker 2: to that too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mushrooms will really bring you to some like deeper

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Speaker 3: spiritual love and understanding of a motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, but thank you for sharing that with me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm grease. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Can you tell our audience where they can find you

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Speaker 3: and all your amazing information?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So my website is mush womb dot Love. I even

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Speaker 2: got my car license plate mush wom I'm.

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Speaker 1: So excited for this terminology.

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Speaker 2: And then my Instagram is Mama Dela Mico and also

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Speaker 2: my TikTok is Mama Dela Miko also, and I answer

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Speaker 2: all my dms. I love getting into, you know, people's questions.

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Speaker 2: I think that's where like the bulk of community care

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Speaker 2: comes from. Is like I'm a child of y'all who

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Speaker 2: answers like am I perginent or whatever? Like asking questions

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Speaker 2: to the internet. And I feel like now we can

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Speaker 2: ask like people, you know, directly from people that we

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Speaker 2: feel like we want to learn from. And it's so

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Speaker 2: cool to be in like a role where I can

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Speaker 2: just share what I know. So yeah, please, yeah, reach

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Speaker 2: out to me. Also, plant b and all of these

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Speaker 2: other good medicines like mental sea sponges I have access

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Speaker 2: to and I love to share with my community. I

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Speaker 2: also make in a monagogue tea that helps people bleed

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Speaker 2: when they want to, and I sell cotton root bark

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Speaker 2: capsules too, and so really like try to resource my

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Speaker 2: community because I remember when I was going through my shit,

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Speaker 2: like it's not readily accessible like right then and there.

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Speaker 2: So if people have it like well stocked in their space,

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Speaker 2: they'll never have to feel like they're in a rush

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Speaker 2: or in an emergency or when their friends need something,

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Speaker 2: they have it ready on hand. So I just want

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Speaker 2: to get this medicine into the right people's hands so

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Speaker 2: that we never feel like we are scrambling to get help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, helleljah, Yes, I love that. Well.

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Speaker 4: Thank you again, of course, and thank you guys for

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