1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,039 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I appreciate 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us as we are 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: rolling through the Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of stories to react to. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Talked about the super Bowl, which I'm sure over one 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: hundred million of you watched. Maybe we can have some fun, Buck. 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: We agree that Kendrick Lamar was awful. I think he 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: was the worst super Bowl halftime performer I've ever seen. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: But do you have a couple of artists that you 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: would like to see? Maybe we can have some fun 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: a little bit later. People can think about it. You 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: can let us know who you think would be good, 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: who hasn't already performed. In other words, new people potentially 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: perform at the super Bowl. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: I would rather had them just roll out the rolling Stones. 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: I don't care if any oxygen tanks and you know, 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: walkers to get out there. Anything other than what we 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: saw last night would have been really good. It was bad, 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: we'll get into that. 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: But you really kind of hit on something that I 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: think is so significant, and it is Trump is getting 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: major opposition for things that are not particularly partisan in nature. 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: In other words, if I said to you, Hey, the 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: federal government. 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: Has a lot of fraud in it. 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Don't you think we should uncover that fraud and use 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars more efficiently and effectively. It's probably an eighty 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: ninety percent agreement out there whether you're a Democrat, Republican, 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: or an independent. Yet, because Trump has baited his critics 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: into a reflexive anti Trump perspective, there are now a 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: lot of people who've said that they we should do 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: everything that Trump has been doing, that we should be 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: doing that, And now they're saying, oh, no, no, no, this 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: is a bad idea, including Mark Cuban, who was a 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: prominent Kamala supporter whose brain is broken. But in twenty seventeen, 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban said something that I think a lot of 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: you would agree with. That is there's about thirty percent 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: of the federal government that's unnecessary. Now he says, it's 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: scary what Elon and Trump are doing. But just a 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: few years ago, this is what billionaire Kamala supporter former 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: owner of the Dallas Mavericks, Mark Cuban had to say. 42 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: Listen, as a libertarian, I think we can reduce employment 43 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: in government by at least the third, reduce the overhead 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: and administration as that much or more so that we 45 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: can offer more two services for our citizens. And so 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: when it comes down to it, where I tend to 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: disagree with everybody, and this is a libertarian, I mean, 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: I'm happy to push down the size of government, and 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: I'm happy to make work on making government more efficient 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: because then more money can pass through and help to 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: people who need it, and that's what needs to change. 52 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So I agree with Mark Cuban circa twenty seventeen 53 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: buck analogy for you, something that is very popular I 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: think in general. Let's say that your neighborhood had an 55 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: issue with people who were drinking heavily at a local 56 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: bar and then driving through your neighborhood at high rates 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: of speed, putting kids other people in the neighborhood in danger. 58 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: If the police set up a dui checkpoint to try 59 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: to catch people who were drinking too heavily at that 60 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: bar and then speeding through a neighborhood, and you were 61 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: super opposed to the dui checkpoint, it would be a 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: sign that you might be one of the guys who's 63 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: drinking heavily in the bar and you're afraid of getting caught. 64 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: How is that not the case here? 65 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: If you are opposed to the rooting out of fraud, 66 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: this seems like a very Okham's Razor like example. 67 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: For me, it's. 68 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Probably a sign that you yourself are profiting and or engaged 69 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: in the fraud. And this feels like such a huge 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: political win for Trump that Democrats have once again reflexively 71 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: opposed common sense. 72 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: I think there's also the just the tribal political my team, 73 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: your team. And also I can't admit that you're right 74 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: even though it's clear you're right, because that would mean 75 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: that I'm wrong. And these are very basic human psychological 76 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: stumbling blocks that And this is the same thing with masking. 77 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: It was the same thing with COVID lockdowns. It was 78 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: the same thing with a whole well, pretty much the 79 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: entirety of the Democrat program for the last decade, you know, 80 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: the trans stuff, everything, it's you're wrong, but you don't 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: want todmit you're wrong. And I think that Mark Cuban, 82 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: to the degree that anybody should really care, I mean, 83 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: I think Mark Cuban won the lottery and then bought 84 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: a sports team, and ever since then we've had to 85 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: pretend like he's really smart. I know he didn't actually 86 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: win the lottery, but selling a company that effectively crashed 87 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: into almost nothing very soon after he sold it during 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: the dot com boom. Luck is a very big thing 89 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: in life, and I think he got very financially lucky. 90 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: And then anybody who bought a decent NBA team and 91 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: put money into it because they had tons of money, 92 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: I think has done very well as well. So I 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 2: don't really, I don't know. I'm not surprised that he's 94 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: saying things that are as contradictory and kind of just 95 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: wimpy now as he is, because he's been doing this 96 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: for a while now. I can't understand what the motivation is. 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: But I've just never found him to be particularly impressive 98 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: or insightful. I mean, that guy Scott Galloway, who's supposed 99 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: to be speak he's kind of the closest thing the 100 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: Democrats have to a left wing Jordan Peterson, I think 101 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: at some level like he speaks about the challenges of men, 102 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: and he speaks about, you know, how being a guy 103 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: these days is tough. And he has this phrase like 104 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: porscha polygamy, because if you're a super successful guy, you 105 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: can have twenty girlfriends. But for a lot of guys 106 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: who are just doing what they're supposed to do, they 107 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: have a tough time finding a mate. You know all this, 108 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: But he's also a loon and an anti Trump guy 109 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: and won't speak honestly about the trans issues and all 110 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: these other things that are the reason that Democrats lose 111 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: so badly with men and are losing so badly with men. 112 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: So these are people that you know, the clay. They 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: have social content, they have social ties that they want 114 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: to continue to have. So they're not going to speak 115 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: honestly and truthfully about what they're finding or what is 116 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: so obvious I think. And you know, Mark Cuban's just 117 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: kind of a billionaire whimp. I don't know, there's plenty 118 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: of running around. He's not quite as bad as George Soros, 119 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: so he's got that going for him, which is nice. 120 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: You get the idea though, that it would be one thing, 121 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: like I understand why people are opposed to Trump on 122 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: birthright citizenship, like I agree with him, but it is 123 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: a contentious issue that the Supreme Court is going to 124 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: have to examine. And so the idea that Democrats would say, 125 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, we have a different interpretation 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: of what the fourteenth Amendment actually means. What does it 127 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: mean to be under jurisdiction of legal jurisdiction of this 128 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: there's also just an argument that when the government has 129 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: been doing something for a long time, it creates an 130 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: expectation that what the government doing must be right. And 131 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: so I'm not I don't think that that's a good 132 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: legal argument, but I'm just saying, this is the human nature, 133 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: this is how it's wine, that why the marketplace would 134 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: actually lead to conflict on that. But what it seems 135 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: to me Trump has done is he has basically co 136 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,119 Speaker 1: opted common sense that is not particularly partisan. I mean, 137 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: men pretending to be women in women's sports is a 138 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: great example of this. But I would argue trying to 139 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: find fraud that's being led buck by a Biden voter 140 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty like they're trying to turn Elon Musk into, 141 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, some right wing zealot. He legitimately voted against 142 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Trump twice prior to twenty twenty four. 143 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: This is why I've talked about it before in the 144 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: religious context, but I mean within Islam, there's apostasy. Is 145 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: is considered a very serious a very serious sin, very 146 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: serious crime. There should be punished. Actually depends on who 147 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: you talk to, but the Jihatis think it should be 148 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 2: punished with death. And one of the reasons that group 149 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: identity has to be so incredibly, you know, actively policing 150 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: apostates is that if you look at this, who is 151 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: a bigger danger to Democrats right now? Somebody like me 152 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: who has been making I mean put aside like the 153 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: Elon super famous with hundreds of billions of dollars, but 154 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: just anybody who has been making these arguments for twenty years. Yeah, sure, 155 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: being right is important, but what really freaks them out? 156 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: And having been right a long time I think deserves 157 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: the respect of those who have been recently red pilled. 158 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: That's another conversation. It's like, why were you guys right 159 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 2: the whole time? I just figured this out. But if 160 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: you're looking at power and politics, people who have switched 161 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: over who used to be on team Democrat. That's got 162 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: to make them really because they can point at somebody 163 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: like me and a lot of you who are listening 164 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: and say, oh, he's always been a right wing zealo. 165 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: He's always been a right wing extremist. But when you 166 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: look at somebody like an Elon Musk. To Clay's point, 167 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: this is a guy. How crazy can he really be 168 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: when he was voting in the Democrat sense? How you know, 169 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: right wing? Insane can he be when he was a 170 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: Democrat until about five minutes ago? And then he just 171 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 2: finally came to the conclusion based on new data, the 172 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: Democrats are insane and that their ideas don't work, and 173 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: their ideas make the country poorer and more miserable and 174 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: more dangerous and less free. Well that's what really worries them, 175 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: because you know, yeah, we're in this country that feels 176 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: very fifty to fifty when the elections actually happened. You know, 177 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: if we get to a sixty to forty country, that 178 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the Democrats have a whole new 179 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: future to consider, as in the political wilderness, and so 180 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: they the people switching over. I think our particular dro 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: a particular hatred from Democrats because of that. I judges 182 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: the others. 183 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: I just I was joking, like my wife was talking 184 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: about this the other day, just like one of the 185 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: funniest things is the idea that Elon Musk is gonna 186 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: like steal your information. Elon Musk, who's worth two hundred 187 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: and fifty t a billion dollars, is going to be 188 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: doing investigations into your forty six thousand dollars a year, uh, 189 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, tax return to somehow, somehow profited by the way, 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: if he wanted to give you advice, I think it 191 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: would probably be great advice. But this idea that somehow 192 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: your information is in danger from Elon Musk is one 193 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: of the most ridiculous things out there. I'd rather Elon 194 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: have my information personally than the government. 195 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you look at like Google has how many 196 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: of you you know, and be honest with yourself, did 197 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: you have? Google has like your passwords stored and has 198 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: your bank info and has everything? And there's others. Oh 199 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: my gosh, it's so scared. What's Google? Google's a trillion 200 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: dollar company. Like they don't need to They're not going 201 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: to start siphoning money out of like the ten thousand 202 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: dollars that somebody has saved up, right, Like this is 203 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: this is a crazy idea. But and I know this 204 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: is why you're bringing up I totally agree with your 205 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: laws conversation because I've been having the same conversation with 206 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: my brothers and friends of mine down here in Florida. 207 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: They're just going to try to scare people about this. 208 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: They'll do anything. We haven't talked about the judges yet, 209 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: which we need to talk about. Yeah, and Clay, I 210 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: want to hear your take on it, because this is 211 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: gonna this is gonna cause a constitutional crisis when judges 212 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: think when one random federal judge thinks that he or 213 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: she can all of a sudden override the president on 214 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: issues of like staffing and functioning the executive branch based 215 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: on what then based on they don't like it. We 216 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: should talk about it. But them saying that Elon Musk 217 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: can't be trusted with your with your treasure, with like 218 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: your treasury payment information. As an individual, we trust Elon. 219 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: I mean if Elon Musk decided to screw over America 220 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: and give the most sensitive aerospace and defense technology in 221 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: the world to China, like we would be in a 222 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: world of hurt because he could do it. I mean, 223 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: it would be treason. But the point is, or you know, 224 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: it would be betraying his country. But I'm just saying, 225 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: this is a guy that we actually de facto trust 226 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: with really sensitive stuff, not how much money some NGO 227 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: with a bunch of pink haired weirdos who don't actually 228 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: do anything we're getting from their friends in the DC swamp. 229 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: I actually think Elon deserves incredible commendation for caring so much. 230 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's basically just giving of his time and 231 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 1: genius to the American taxpayer to try to make the 232 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: government more efficient. I don't really know that he benefits, 233 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: like on an individual level, anywhere near the amount of 234 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: time he's spending on this. 235 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: This is really simple, Clay, right, you can just break 236 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: it down this way. Is fraud in government spending bad? 237 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: We get people to answer that question. Is there anyone 238 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: that you can think of who realistically has a better 239 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: skill set and ability to find what the heck is 240 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: going on here than Elon Musk running multiple trillions of 241 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: dollars worth of companies and corporations that he has built. 242 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: The answer, I think is also again very clear. So 243 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: everything else is noise. It's either fraud is bad and 244 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: Elon is the best man for the job, or you're 245 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: just you're just spewing nonsense. Because the Democrats are sick 246 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: of being made to look like fools and liars, which 247 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: is what they really are. I mean, this is why 248 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: you have Chuck Schumer dancing around and others looking like 249 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: such jokes. And this is why the analogy of influencing 250 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: the law and trying to be involved in that and 251 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: you being concerned about the law being enforced is probably 252 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: a sign that you are engaged in behavior you shouldn't be. 253 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 2: We'll take some of your calls, will break that down 254 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: for you more. After more than a year of war 255 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: and terror in Israel, great demand for basic humanitarian aid, 256 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has continued to 257 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: support those in the Holy Land facing the lingering horrors 258 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: of war and those who are in desperate need. Right now, 259 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: Your ongoing monthly gift of forty five dollars will provide 260 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: critically needed aid to communities in the North and South 261 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: devastated by the ongoing war there. 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That's one word, SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. 269 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: You can also call eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ. 270 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: That's eight eight eight four eight eight. If CJ. Stories 271 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you unite 272 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: us all each day. Spend time with Clay and by 273 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: find them. 274 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: On the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 275 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We've got a call here. 276 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: Let's take some more calls. 277 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: Well. 278 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: Eight hundred two A two two eight A two Diane 279 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: in Upstate, New York. What's going on? Diane? 280 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: Hello, fellas, listen. I have a couple of notations here, 281 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: and I also have two relevant questions for you fellas 282 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: to explore. The first thing is about all of this 283 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: corrupt money flying out of our hands. Let us not 284 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: be so naive as to think, oh, we're going to 285 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: win the people over. No, no, okay, it is up 286 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: to their governments to take care of their people and 287 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: all their little niche nonsense. Okay, let us not forget 288 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 4: that there's lots of kickbacks that go to politicians, and 289 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: we see that especially during campaign season. What we need 290 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 4: to know is who is okaying all of these funds 291 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: flying out the window. And again let's not forget that 292 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: the Whinsky doesn't even know where half the money is. 293 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: I want invoices, I want to see everything. What the 294 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: American people go through around tax time is unbelievable. But 295 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: we have to go through now the cartels that have 296 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: been bringing everything across the border. We also need to 297 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: look at those politicians and those who say, oh the 298 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: border is closed, Oh it's safe, really okay, We need 299 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: to examine their financials and we are talking about offshore 300 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: banking accounts, etc. However, cash and gold mister Menndez of 301 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: New Jersey, he knows how to get it dropped off 302 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: on his front porch. Now here is a question, one 303 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: of the questions, who owns our debt? My understanding over 304 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: the years is China d Ming Dingden. All they have 305 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: to do is come a knocking to collect. Oh you 306 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: can't pay, okay, we'll take your resources. All the oil 307 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: that Biden stopped drilling. Do you think that he got 308 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: paid for nothing? China has got big eyeballs when it 309 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 4: comes to our resources. My problem with mister Borgum, who 310 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: is now Secretary of the Interior. He allowed China to 311 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 4: waltz into North Dakota and surround the military base. He 312 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: needs to clean up the slops by taking that land 313 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: back by eminent domain. Kick them out. They not only 314 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: lose their money, but we get them out of us. 315 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. We're about to come up 316 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: on the break here. What I would say in general 317 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: is China owns a lot of our debt. Lots of 318 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: foreign countries own a lot of our debt. One of 319 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: the ways that we are decreasing America's overall global power 320 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: is by becoming so indebted and allowing our chief adversaries 321 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: to control in any way our ability. The fact that 322 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: we're paying interest to China is not a good thing 323 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: for the United States. I'm surprised we don't talk about 324 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: it more. 325 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: US Navy Lieutenant Bradley Foster's story defines dedication and service 326 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: to country. 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Clay Travis 342 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: and buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 343 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. 344 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: I do think we need to continue to hammer. 345 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: That's exactly how radical the idea of trying to budget 346 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: in a reasonable, rational way. The crazy fraud that has 347 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: been uncovered inside of the United States government. The idea 348 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: that this is in some way political in nature is 349 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: I think democrats telling on themselves, but also understand what 350 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: the resistance is. Even you mentioned him a little bit earlier, 351 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: Scott Galloway is a fairly intelligent guy. He says that 352 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: the members of DOGE, that is, Department of Government Efficiency, 353 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: Elon's minions. I've heard them called the musketeers whatever you 354 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: want to call them inside of the government, that they 355 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: should be arrested because this is a coup. Listen to 356 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: this take and understand how crazy it really is. 357 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 5: I want to know who their names are. I'm want 358 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 5: to see democratic governor saying I'm going to do everything 359 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: i can in my power to use the full faith 360 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 5: in to the letter of the law to put you 361 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 5: folks in prison. I think what you're doing is trespassing. 362 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 5: I think this is a coup. And be clear, just 363 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: because the new insurrectionist who was elected, I don't believe 364 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 5: this is legal, and I'm going to hold the people 365 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: accountable who are trespassing and part of a coup accountable 366 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 5: to just sit back and say this is horrible and 367 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 5: this is unlawful. We need to go gangster here and say, look, 368 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: we are not negotiating around this stuff. 369 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: This is illegal, this is a coup. 370 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 5: This is the unlawful seizure of power. 371 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: Why Buck, I just this guy's a reasonably intelligent guy, 372 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: very smart even I've read several of his books. How 373 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: has a coup ever been used to reduce I said 374 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: this last week, and it's like became a talking point. 375 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: Dictatorships typically don't take away the size of government or 376 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: reduce the power of government. If it's a coup to 377 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: make government more efficient, then I think we should all 378 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: be supporting a coup and the idea that these I 379 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: should be arrested for making virtually no money and just 380 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: trying to uncover fraud. This is important. We have whistleblowers, Buck, 381 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: who basically the entire basis of the whistleblower statute. 382 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: Is to reward people who come forward. 383 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: And share instances of fraud with payment for all of 384 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: the money they save. If anything, I would say this 385 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: is somewhat analogous to a whistleblower type comment because we 386 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: have all these brilliant guys, they're almost all young men, 387 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: going through government expenditures and uncovering aspects of our tax 388 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 1: dollars that are being wasted. These gys are heroes, far 389 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: from being worthy of arrest, which is crazy, But I 390 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: do think you guys need to hear the arguments that 391 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: are coming. 392 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: Out, Clay. It is long understood that the president this 393 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: is kind of a big deal to be the president. 394 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: I know that the Libs are still very sad because 395 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: the president is once again Donald Trump. But the president's 396 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 2: a pretty big job with a lot of powers. And 397 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: maybe they've forgotten that because they had a dementia patient 398 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: posing as a president for four years while a bunch 399 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: of you know, Beta mail cry babies were pulling the 400 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: strings on him like a puppet in the White House. 401 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: But you can actually have somebody with ideas and decision 402 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: making and real authority doing stuff, and that is what 403 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is doing. And I would just note that 404 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: we have this this now kind of recent media tradition 405 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: of referring to certain people as czars. Right, you refer to, oh, 406 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, there was that guy who was the 407 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: Obama car czar when they were doing the whole GM 408 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: bailout thing. Right. And the president is allowed to appoint 409 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: special employees who are given presidential authority to work on 410 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: tasks that are within the constitutional purview of the president. 411 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: So for somebody who is at least ostensibly to your 412 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: point intelligent and NYU professor, that actually doesn't mean you're intelligent, 413 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: but whatever. To say that these guys should be arrested 414 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: for trespassing, that's a very bad idea. And any body 415 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: who would do such a thing would be impeding federal authority, 416 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: which as we know, Democrats have a very clear history 417 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: of you're impeding a federal proceeding, you should go to 418 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: prison for like five years, right, I mean, so, I'm 419 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: sorry that they don't like the reality. But the reality 420 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: is the president can do what he is doing with 421 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 2: regard to the appointment of Elon Musk and others as 422 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: special advisory employees or whatever you want to call them. 423 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: This has been going on for many many administrations. They 424 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: had no problem with it before. The real problem they 425 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: have is Trump is doing something that they should have 426 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: done if they were serious about getting fraud out of 427 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: the government. The bigger problem is the fraud mostly goes 428 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: to their friends and buddies, and we all know that 429 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: now and we're finding out more and more of that. 430 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: And that is the part of it, the grift, the graft. 431 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: That's the part of it that I think is so 432 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: upsetting to the Democrat establishment because what we're seeing is 433 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: they had created a system in DC where by the 434 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: election was just kind of a temporary whatever. If a 435 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: Republican wins, there's a permanent government that gets to spend 436 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: the money it wants, do what it wants, and stop 437 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: anyone from reforming it. Trump has come in this time 438 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: and said that's actually not the way this is supposed 439 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: to go, and it's not the way it will go 440 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 2: now that I have my say, and they can cry 441 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: about it, but the Libs are wrong. The Constitution gives 442 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: him this authority. 443 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Also the other aspect here, and we haven't talked about 444 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: it very much, but I do think it's significant. We 445 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: told you this would happen. Federal district court judges are 446 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: going to do everything they can to keep Trump from 447 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: being able to enact his policies. This judge's ruling that 448 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: is trying to stop some of what Doge is doing. 449 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: Buck. 450 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: It's four pages, it has almost no legal sounding. In fact, 451 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: it is one federal judge. And again I will give 452 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: credit where there is massive amounts of legal uncertainty. We 453 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: told you again using birthright citizenship, this is going to 454 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: have to go through the entire court system until this 455 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: gets to the Supreme Court, we won't know what the 456 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: law on the fourteenth Amendment is. We do know that 457 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: the president has the right to choose the people who 458 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: work inside of the executive branch. Now, if you want 459 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: to argue, hey, these people can't be fired, and you 460 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: want to get into a labor and employment dispute, that 461 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: is a more interesting argument. But the idea that one 462 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: federal district court judge can undo the entire powers of 463 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: the United States President is actually pretty staggering in. 464 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 2: A case like this New York judge Paul Engelmeyer. Now 465 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: we're talking about the Mike Senator Mike Lee has called 466 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: it a judicial coup, and that is what it feels 467 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: like right now. You have random federal judges. And this 468 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: should also be hat tip my friend Sean Davis reporting 469 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: this out. The Supreme Court is a coequal branch of government. 470 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: The federal the federal judges, those are creations of Congress. 471 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: That's a whole other thing. Okay, So Congress is like, yeah, 472 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: we need all these federal judges to uh to interpret 473 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: federal law as part of that enforcement and as part 474 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: of that component of the government. But anyway, the judge 475 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: Engelmeyer has forbidden even the Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessen, from 476 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: accessing Department of Treasury data. I just want everyone to 477 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: let that just simmer for a second. There a federal 478 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: judge sitting in New York, a partisan hack, has said 479 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: the Treasury secretary does not have full access to Treasury 480 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: Department data. Now, I can just put this in a 481 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: different context. Imagine if a federal judge said the CIA 482 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: director does not have full access to everything within the CIA. Ever, 483 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: would realize, well, that's insane, right. What's maybe even more 484 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: insane that the Treasury director does not have a Treasury 485 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: secretary does not have access to this. These are the 486 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: kinds of arguments. This is the petty, childish no, you 487 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: can't do the things the constitution says you can do 488 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: because we don't like it, and why don't they like it? Clay, 489 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: bring us back to this Elon share that HHS had 490 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: canceled sixty two contracts worth one hundred and eighty two 491 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: million dollars. Clay, all of that was for this is 492 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: what doos's doing administrative expenses. I can tell you this 493 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: the one hundred and eighty million dollars that was being 494 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: distributed from HHS for admin costs. Those are going to 495 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: Democrat voters, Democrat donors, Democrat power overwhelmingly, probably ninety percent 496 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: plus of it, maybe one hundred percent of it. 497 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: This is why they're ticked off. I think that's one 498 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: hundred percent true. And this is where the real opposition 499 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: to Trump is coming. It's not from a Democrat because 500 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: there is no eloquent voice to oppose much of what 501 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: he's doing. It's going to come from the courts. And 502 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: so understand the reason why Trump has to move so 503 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: fast is because there's going to be massive interruptions from 504 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: the courts and they're going to hold everything up. We 505 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: need to get Ron Johnson on later this week to 506 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: talk about the larger budget battles that are going on. 507 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: I was with. 508 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: The Speaker of the House, who we can get on 509 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: again soon, Mike Johnson on Sunday on the Super Bowl 510 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: field and he was talking with Shannon Breem about what 511 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: the overall timeline is going to be to get all 512 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: these deals done. But a big part of this, understand 513 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: is how far into the future are we setting what 514 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: the tax rates are going to be and how do 515 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: you manage to balance all this off setting cost. And again, 516 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: I just I would ask you, and I know there's 517 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: tons of you out there listening to us right now, 518 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: how has it become political to want to eliminate fraud 519 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: from the United States government? I will say, did you 520 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: see the interview Margaret Brennan did with the anonymous federal worker, Buck, 521 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: government employee who was whining about how how suddenly they 522 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: worried about their job security. I'm sorry everyone in America 523 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: who doesn't have the luxury of having a government job 524 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: lives with the constant fear that you might lose your job. 525 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: I have no sympathy for some sniveling, overpaid government employee 526 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: who was trying to oppose Trump's agenda suddenly having to think, 527 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: oh maybe I won't keep my job. And Buck, if 528 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: they if we thought they didn't have good jobs, they 529 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: offered to pay them through September and let them find 530 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: new jobs, and almost no one took the opportunity to 531 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: go find a new job. 532 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: I bet this is what I've explained. You know, this 533 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: one kind of viral because I was because again I 534 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: was in the federal government, and one of the big 535 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: incentives for federal employment for people is the forever job, 536 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: and if you're risk averse, you have a forever. I 537 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: had people in the CIA, I will tell you this, 538 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: and the CIA, at least then there were some badasses, 539 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: legitimately badasses running around me. Sean Ryan, I mean, you know, 540 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: you look at some of these guys who've come forward now, 541 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Cee. I had some pretty awesome 542 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: people working there. You know, Sean does a great podcast. 543 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of you've seen any he talks 544 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: about this stuff. CIA hads some badasses. It's a pretty 545 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: lean and mean part of the federal government. But when 546 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: I told them that I was considering a couple of 547 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: my sin of advisors and senior people that I was 548 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: going to leave and actually do media, they were like, 549 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: that's insane. Like you're making you're making six figures. It's cool, 550 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: and you're never gonna have to worry about a paycheck 551 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: for the rest of your life. Like, why would you 552 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: ever leave that? Right? And that was the mentality, because 553 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 2: in media, you get fired and you don't get renewed, 554 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: and companies shut down and things are scary, and like, 555 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: that's all true, that's. 556 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: True of almost everybody in the private sector. So again, 557 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: I bet a third of you that are listening to 558 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: us today, if you got told hey, i'll pay you 559 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: through September, but you have to go find a new job. 560 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: I bet a third of you would say, yeah, that's 561 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: a pretty good deal. I'll take that offer. What is 562 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: it like twenty thousand of the two million some such 563 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: have been when I. 564 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: Was right, I said this before it happened. I said 565 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: you're going to get less than one percent. The administration 566 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: was saying five to ten percent. Because the administration has 567 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: a lot of private sector people working in it who 568 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: see this in that lens. I know about the forever 569 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: job mentality and the forever it's very hard to get people. 570 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: It's like an addiction. I have healthcare, and I can 571 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: pay my bills forever. I never have to think about 572 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: it again. You can't. You can't beat that. 573 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's almost impossible to get fired, even for wrongdoings. 574 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: You have a lot of protections. Again, I don't have 575 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: any sympathy because we're paying for all those people. But 576 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: I do, and I look, if there's two million federal employees, 577 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: a million of you are probably doing great work. That 578 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: means a million of you are just sucking on the 579 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: government teep and taking advantage of a cushy job that 580 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: you can't find in the real world. 581 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: And one of the judges, I think it was the 582 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: one and I got trying to keep up with all 583 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: these hashtag resistance judges with the one in Massachusetts and 584 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: Boston who said that you can't uh, well, then know 585 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: there's a couple of these things. Judge Carl Nichols has 586 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: a temporary restraining order saying you can't put us AID 587 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: employees on administrative leave and as the president, you can't 588 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: tell them to come home from overseas. Another judge has 589 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: said that you're not allowed to offer the buyout to 590 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: federal employees. These judges think they run the country. Yes, 591 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: this is insane. We should, we should, we should get 592 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: into more of this because this is going to be 593 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: a huge This is their only hope in their minds 594 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: to stop Trump. They just have judges make up stuff 595 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: as they Judges do crazy things that you know, they're 596 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: all Obama appointees and Biden appointees. We'll get into this rapid. 597 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: Radios walkie talkies are amazing and so many of you 598 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: have been using them and seeing how convenient they are, 599 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: how much they prepare you for, you know, an unexpected 600 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: future in case you need to have comms going when 601 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: things get rough wherever you are. 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The 633 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: what do you do? 634 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: Is a question I just jumped into mentions a lot 635 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: of people saying, Okay, what do you do? You have 636 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: to appeal a federal district court judge decision on some level, 637 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: typically to a circuit court level, and it takes a 638 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: long time for the circuit court often to rule understand 639 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: what's going on here. This is just a delayed because 640 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: I know it sounds crazy, but they know that they 641 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: only have four years of Trump. And this is why, Buck, 642 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: I think it's so important for everybody out there. As 643 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: much good as you may believe Trump is doing, and 644 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: we think he's doing a lot No president in four 645 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: years can fix much of what's wrong with our government. 646 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: We've got to stack multiple administrations together in order to 647 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: really fix the cultural rot that exists right now, and 648 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: also put more judges in who are more likely to 649 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: be constitutionalists and understand presidential power at its most basic level. 650 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: So that's an answer in a roundabout fashion that a 651 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: lot of people are asking about these judges. 652 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: Yes, and I think that this is a return to 653 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: I've been saying that the hashtag resistance judges, because that's 654 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: what they were calling them initially in Trump's first term. 655 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 2: The whole plan was just have the judges, and a 656 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: lot of it was coming out of the Ninth Circuit, 657 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: you know, which includes California. Have these federal judges just 658 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 2: slow down, slow down Trump, because the Democrats otherwise they've 659 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: got nothing right now, They've got no they've got ineffective countermessaging. 660 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 2: They don't have the levers of government to stop this. 661 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: All they have are judges. It's really almost the equivalent 662 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 2: clay of filing frivolous lawsuits to try to bury somebody 663 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: in paperwork when they're actually right and you're wrong. You know, 664 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: this is what they're doing. Except it's judges. It's not 665 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: some sketchy plaintiff's attorney or something. So it's gonna be 666 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: a fight. We'll see. But the fact that you have 667 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: judges stepping in to try to slow down Trump and 668 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: that's the best they got is also a reminder that 669 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: the winning has been amazing lately and the Democrats are 670 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 2: on their heels, which is good for everybody.