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Speaker 2: What do you think I paid for my used elliptical
Speaker 2: I bought fifteen years ago. It's a really good one.
Speaker 2: It's actually from a gym, so it's the heavy duty
Speaker 2: commercial quality sure like you use at the gym. Who's
Speaker 2: freaking really really good. But I bought it used. Would
Speaker 2: you have a guess what I probably paid for? It
Speaker 2: knew when it was new, used when I bought it
Speaker 2: from Craigslist. Five hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: I was going to go seven hundred You think it
Speaker 3: was a gym quality, Yeah, more than that, because I
Speaker 3: bought one much more recently than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: I was just trying to think hundreds too low, like
Speaker 3: twelve hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, might have been anyway, because I just moved it.
Speaker 2: For see, I was living in that house, moved to
Speaker 2: that house, moved to this house. This is the fourth
Speaker 2: place I've had it in and I've I've used it.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the total I've spent on moving it.
Speaker 2: I was googling to see roughly what it costs. But
Speaker 2: this is the fourth place I've moved it to, and
Speaker 2: so because it weighs more than three hundred pounds, there's
Speaker 2: a special price for that. So I paid a couple
Speaker 2: of hundred bucks to have it moved. Again. The total
Speaker 2: amount of time cumulative that I've spent on that elliptical
Speaker 2: machine has got to be less than twenty minutes in
Speaker 2: fifteen years. And fifteen years.
Speaker 3: Wow, you can get like a high dollar hooker for
Speaker 3: a lower hourly rate than that.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not worried about the price. I'm putting it
Speaker 2: in the category of is this the stupidest craziest, least
Speaker 2: sensical thing I've ever done in my life. And that's
Speaker 2: a high bar, trust me.
Speaker 4: They like, do you have a plan in life where
Speaker 4: you're like, I'm gonna I'm gonna get on that thing
Speaker 4: that's gonna be after work going home thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: I guess, Okay, I guess I do.
Speaker 3: It's hard to get a good quality gym level used
Speaker 3: elliptical for less than fifteen hundred dollars, Okay, I just
Speaker 3: essentially what I remember.
Speaker 2: I might have spent a thousand dollars on it, but
Speaker 2: I've spent another thousand dollars moving it four times at
Speaker 2: least and again cumulative over fifteen years. Twenty minutes, and
Speaker 2: I'm probably on the high end. Use it or sell it.
Speaker 3: In a minute and a half per year, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean use it or sell it.
Speaker 2: You used it or sell it at what point? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not. It's sort of become like a I don't know,
Speaker 2: almost like a joke. Now.
Speaker 4: I was one of those sorry folks that fell victim
Speaker 4: to the Peloton during COVID the Peloton bikes, and I
Speaker 4: used that thing twice and then it turned into a
Speaker 4: really nice clothing rack, and I was like, I gotta
Speaker 4: get rid of this thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Wow, that's funny.
Speaker 3: I've used a peloton more than that at the gym,
Speaker 3: but not for some time. The seat did not love
Speaker 3: the seats, and I got a piece of gear. You
Speaker 3: don't actually said yeah, where were we?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, give yourself two weeks.
Speaker 3: And then get rid of the damn thing. Quit throwing
Speaker 3: good money after bad. Although you say it's kind of
Speaker 3: become almost a family, it's kind of be an heirloom
Speaker 3: of futility a Charlie Brownish.
Speaker 2: I keep thinking my kids might use it. Yes, Michael, No,
Speaker 2: I say just dump it, just take it to the dump. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's definitely too nice. I would I would give it
Speaker 2: to a family or something before I take it to
Speaker 2: the dump, because it's a great piece of equipment. It
Speaker 2: really really is high quality, really good one.
Speaker 3: Here's what you do. I got a brilliant idea. You
Speaker 3: just you're in a store, you're walking down the street.
Speaker 3: You come across a heavy set person and you say, hey,
Speaker 3: I noticed you're pretty porky.
Speaker 2: I have an elliptical for you. You probably have bad knees,
Speaker 2: right carrying that luggage around. Huh, You don't want to
Speaker 2: run or want That's what that's great about the elliptical.
Speaker 2: I all you have to do is pick it up.
Speaker 2: As I'll walk up to and say, you're probably what
Speaker 2: thirty three thirty four thirty four? What bmi? Yeah, probably
Speaker 2: thirty four bmi? Wow, not analyptical. Yeah, go up and
Speaker 2: put a measuring tape around their waist. Jeez, oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what there.
Speaker 3: What's underrated by people who don't understand economies and markets
Speaker 3: and that sort of thing is the concept of and
Speaker 3: I don't know the technical term, but it's the infrastructure
Speaker 3: to sell the ability to you know, obviously, take in
Speaker 3: money and give out a product.
Speaker 2: That's the obvious part. That's the easy part.
Speaker 3: But to hold an inventory, to ship it, to deliver it,
Speaker 3: to be a place where multiple buyers can come and
Speaker 3: the price can be set by the free market, as
Speaker 3: opposed to add, dude with an elliptical who wants to
Speaker 3: get rid of it?
Speaker 2: You are in such a weak Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I will tell you Facebook marketplace and offer up
Speaker 4: as where I've gotten rid of both of my pieces
Speaker 4: of exercise equipment that were large, and you can select
Speaker 4: by pickup only.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's worked easily. So Joe and I both
Speaker 2: had Nordic tracks twenty five years ago because we were
Speaker 2: endorsing Nordic track Thank you Gladys. And it was the
Speaker 2: nicest Nordic tracks they made, so they're kind of expensive,
Speaker 2: and I use that one like I don't know, five minutes. Anyway,
Speaker 2: when I went to move, I wasn't going to haul
Speaker 2: that across the country.
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 2: Think I put an ad in the paper for it,
Speaker 2: that's how long it was ago, and nobody was interested.
Speaker 2: And then I asked people around and nobody was interested.
Speaker 2: And then I took it to the good Will and
Speaker 2: they said look over there, and in the corner they
Speaker 2: had like fifteen Norder tracks. Said we're not taking any
Speaker 2: more tracks. And I tried. I drove around with that
Speaker 2: thing in the back of my truck to different good
Speaker 2: Wills and various those kinds of places, Salvation Army, and
Speaker 2: nobody would take it. You literally couldn't give it away.
Speaker 2: I finally, out of frustration after dark, drove behind the
Speaker 2: good Will, pushed it out of the back of my
Speaker 2: truck and drove off. Wow.
Speaker 3: Oh, confess to felony littering exercise equipment just it's amazing
Speaker 3: that they sell so much of it new. There are stores.
Speaker 3: There's a store not far from here from the radio
Speaker 3: station that sells that stuff new all the time. May
Speaker 3: been in business for a long time, so they must
Speaker 3: sell stuff. Man, buy that you host.
Speaker 2: You two hundred dollars to get rid of it. That's
Speaker 2: my prediction. Probably right, I'll keep it. I'll keep it
Speaker 2: in this house. Maybe next move I'll finally decide. You know.
Speaker 2: One of the problems this makes me feel better by myself,
Speaker 2: so maybe I'm just kidding myself. One of the reasons
Speaker 2: I don't use it as much is I live someplace
Speaker 2: northern California where the climate is so good. I always
Speaker 2: think I'd rather go outside and do it. So I like,
Speaker 2: I walk a half hour forty five minutes almost every
Speaker 2: single night. But the weather's perfect, so I'm gonna go outside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to Why you're not exercising on
Speaker 3: that thing because the weather's so.
Speaker 2: Nice, right, Well, I am getting exercise all yeah. Or
Speaker 2: I ride my bike just sure ambling down the streets,
Speaker 2: walking into the donut shop, walking back out of the
Speaker 2: donut shop, looking for somebody heavy to give your elliptical
Speaker 2: to one other thing on the move in my crap
Speaker 2: was I have so many things that I've moved that
Speaker 2: like it's a like a kind of a bookshelf where
Speaker 2: it's a lamp or whatever. Like I would never buy it.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's crappy, and I don't even need it,
Speaker 2: but I move it. It's just it's weird. The inertia
Speaker 2: of stuff. I kept thinking about that merry condo woman
Speaker 2: and the the what did she call that whole thing
Speaker 2: where you're supposed to hold up you hold up every
Speaker 2: item and see if it makes your heart singing. If
Speaker 2: it doesn't, you're supposed to throw it away, which makes
Speaker 2: more sense than not. I got so many things. It's
Speaker 2: just like I would never purchase this if somebody offered
Speaker 2: it to me in the street, I wouldn't say yes.
Speaker 2: But I have it, and I move it from house
Speaker 2: to house. What is that? It's weird. Yeah, the inertia
Speaker 2: of stuff or things that belong I don't even know
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 3: Depends on your personality type and how you grew up too, right,
Speaker 3: the throwing something away that's perfectly good would not happen
Speaker 3: in my house as a kid, all right, exactly I've
Speaker 3: been familiar with spoiled, little rich kids who they would
Speaker 3: waste crap or get rid of crap or whatever. I
Speaker 3: mean anything to them. It's an odd It's like the
Speaker 3: flip side of a good quality. Like you say, you're
Speaker 3: not going to get rid of something that has value,
Speaker 3: that's usable. You're gonna use it until it's crap and
Speaker 3: then you'll replace it.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know. Hanson asked the question, is a dad,
Speaker 2: how many boxes of kids artwork do I have? I
Speaker 2: got several, not very big boxes, because you know, it
Speaker 2: doesn't make a lot of space, but I got quite
Speaker 2: a big kids art work through the years. I always
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go through those one at a time someday,
Speaker 2: and maybe I will or maybe I won't. What did
Speaker 2: you do finally? You still have that? Or down to
Speaker 2: one box per kid? Okay? And the flat plastic boxes
Speaker 2: that are did you go through a painstakingly and pick
Speaker 2: out your favorite stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We we curated it like a museum. Two Revolutionary War
Speaker 3: soldier uniforms is plenty.
Speaker 2: We don't need thirteen, and let's.
Speaker 3: Get a couple of Civil War era and then you
Speaker 3: know it's kind of curated.
Speaker 2: It now every every Birthday card, Father's Day card that
Speaker 2: I get in from my kids, I got all those
Speaker 2: still in one spot. Those aren't going anywhere until I die.
Speaker 2: No agreed, Ye are Strong?
Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3: So a couple of completely non political stories that I
Speaker 3: found very interesting, both about the human brain, love love,
Speaker 3: I love love. When you feel love, how does your
Speaker 3: brain light up? It was funny that I came across
Speaker 3: this because just the other day I was chatting with
Speaker 3: my daughter video chatting. I love her to my bones,
Speaker 3: and she's a pretty girl. But of course my feeling
Speaker 3: for her is completely different than that for my wife,
Speaker 3: for instance, which is different for my feeling for my dog,
Speaker 3: which is different from my feeling for music, which I love.
Speaker 3: And I was contemplating this, and lo and behold, here
Speaker 3: this comes out. Your researchers at a prominent university in
Speaker 3: Finland set out to explore the neural basis of love,
Speaker 3: and they came up with six different types romantic love,
Speaker 3: parental love, love, love for friends, love for strangers whatever
Speaker 3: that means, love for pets, and love for nature.
Speaker 2: Have you ever read Love in the Time of Cholera
Speaker 2: by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. That's I think I did. That's
Speaker 2: the whole premise of the book, and it was written
Speaker 2: very long time ago. But just he gets a crush
Speaker 2: on this girl when he's in grade school and then
Speaker 2: goes clear to their elderly. All the different stages of
Speaker 2: the different ways he loved this person, and it's really interesting. Yeah, wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: I read that years and years ago.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Their findings, published in Cerebral Cortex, suggested while all
Speaker 3: forms of love share a fair amount of overlap in
Speaker 3: your neural pathways, there are distinct differences in how our
Speaker 3: brains process these various types of affection, which is not
Speaker 3: that you know, revelatory. It's not shocking or anything. But
Speaker 3: as we understand the brain more and more and can
Speaker 3: see it and measure what it's doing more and more,
Speaker 3: I just I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. And I had a conversation I
Speaker 2: guess this would be well, it could be love and sex,
Speaker 2: But conversation with my son yesterday. We're talking about somebody
Speaker 2: and I said, I don't know, is that person you know,
Speaker 2: sixteen or twenty three? I can't tell the difference. And
Speaker 2: at this point in my life, and I said, oh,
Speaker 2: but that's an I think that's an evolutionary thing. It's so,
Speaker 2: you know, more, seventy year old guys aren't hitting on
Speaker 2: twenty year old women. You can't tell a child from
Speaker 2: a twenty five year old, So you just kind of
Speaker 2: stay away from that whole area of age for the
Speaker 2: most part, not entirely, you know, exceptions of billionaires and whatnot,
Speaker 2: But I think for the most part, they're all children
Speaker 2: to me. Now, even you know, people in the early twenties,
Speaker 2: so who are arguably grown women, Yeah, who are grown up.
Speaker 2: But I think it just keeps you away. I think
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a bit of a gripe with that,
Speaker 3: but we don't really have time. You know what, instead
Speaker 3: of rushing through the next neurological study, I came across
Speaker 3: that I found really really interesting.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do it next segment. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Part of what you're talking about, I think is cultural
Speaker 3: the way people dress and act and wear makeup and stuff,
Speaker 3: which has.
Speaker 2: Changed very much.
Speaker 3: You just you would not see a middle schooler back
Speaker 3: in the day dressed in a provocative way wearing makeup
Speaker 3: has ever happened.
Speaker 2: Or even a high school kid not that not you know,
Speaker 2: not too many decades ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would say, just from a strictly biological
Speaker 3: point of view, I think a male would just look
Speaker 3: at a female and say of reproductive age or not
Speaker 3: of reproductive age on a purely cave men, I don't
Speaker 3: suggest we run our society like that.
Speaker 2: So you think it's cultural that keeps me away from
Speaker 2: most men as they get older, away from that younger cent.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's complicated. I don't know. Striaking question,
Speaker 2: I don't actually know the answer to that mentioned badminton
Speaker 2: reminded me yesterday when I was out of gym class
Speaker 2: was like this for you when you were in school,
Speaker 2: or you Michael or U Katie. But back when I
Speaker 2: was younger and in school gym class they were so
Speaker 2: into like the rules of various games. We spend a
Speaker 2: lot of shire, like learning to play volleyball and the
Speaker 2: rules and stuff like that. I remember learning to play
Speaker 2: badminton and the rules of badminton and just all these
Speaker 2: different things. And my son pe this year at the
Speaker 2: grade level he's in right now, it's all like they
Speaker 2: go into the gym and work out, like you have
Speaker 2: a gym membership and you learn how to do that,
Speaker 2: or stretching or stuff like that. That seems like a
Speaker 2: way better idea. A lifelong understanding of this is a
Speaker 2: habit you should form. This is how you do it
Speaker 2: and do it the rest of your life. Weightlifting and
Speaker 2: stretching and stuff. As opposed to.
Speaker 3: Learning the rules of badminton, oh I disagree completely. Learning
Speaker 3: how to play games that will keep you fit for
Speaker 3: a lifetime.
Speaker 2: Is that what you've been doing. You've been playing badminton
Speaker 2: your whole life to stay in shape. Played a lot.
Speaker 2: He couldn't have picked up volleyball at some point quite easily. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you hit the ball back and forth in that. If
Speaker 2: it hits a ground, it's a point. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: Am I allowed to catch it and throw it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, I got it. I thought that's awesome that he's
Speaker 2: learned about you know, how many reps, how many sets?
Speaker 2: You know, spreading out the different parts of your body.
Speaker 2: That is kind of cold, way handier. Don't we have
Speaker 2: time for both? Probably?
Speaker 3: Or what?
Speaker 2: Maybe? Why is it all arn nothing with you?
Speaker 4: When I when I was in high school, weightlifting was
Speaker 4: an elective, so that was like a special class you
Speaker 4: could take. But it would have been way more beneficial
Speaker 4: to just have that VPE right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the very least. Yeah, you pe three times
Speaker 2: a week. You're getting into the gym three times a week.
Speaker 2: Seems like a great idea for a teenager. Can I
Speaker 2: wear earbuds so you're thing? You get you to be
Speaker 2: able to listen to music? Well, yeah, what's your workout?
Speaker 2: Always hated? You're probably classical music your type? Listening to
Speaker 2: string quartets? Yes, o yoma, especially if it's leg day
Speaker 2: as it's different stuff.
Speaker 4: I can't work out without headphones.
Speaker 2: At the gym. I got the listening to the news.
Speaker 3: I can't because I'm constantly rewinding because I realized I
Speaker 3: was focused on the number of reps or whatever, and
Speaker 3: I just missed what Charlie Cook just said or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Jake Tapper on while I'm doing my
Speaker 2: get my swool on. You know my used to smoke
Speaker 2: in the van. She would sit in this van and
Speaker 2: smoke while we ran there with him. Non sit in
Speaker 2: his van.
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, run, I'll be burning darts in my van
Speaker 3: if you need me.
Speaker 2: Ten more years of this before I can retire. With
Speaker 2: my picture.
Speaker 3: I think he had turning lung darts Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: I think I word fast. Don't you think it's a
Speaker 2: little odd? Absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind.
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Speaker 2: it wherever you find all your podcasts. This was so funny.
Speaker 3: I've been wanting to bring this to the radio show,
Speaker 3: but I just haven't gotten around to it. It's a
Speaker 3: story that is ostensibly about a judge in Beverly Hills
Speaker 3: who got pissed off that they're not cooperating with the
Speaker 3: state's laws for affordable housing. And the headline is in
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills, no kitchen remodels or pool grottos, as judge
Speaker 3: orders building moratorium over lack of affordable housing. Essentially, he
Speaker 3: blocked the city from issuing any building permits for anything,
Speaker 3: no matter how necessary or silly or mundane or whatever,
Speaker 3: until they approved a sufficient blueprint for affordable housing.
Speaker 2: So I got a nice piece of property, I got
Speaker 2: a lot of money, but a judge's saying, you don't
Speaker 2: need a grotto until we have more housed poor people rights.
Speaker 3: Expand your garage, or remodel your kitchen or put.
Speaker 2: In a pool or anything. Wow, that's what it's done. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now that's freedom the property I own. Somehow me taking
Speaker 2: my money and getting a grotto next to my pool
Speaker 2: has anything to do with poor people getting more housing.
Speaker 2: That is really a weird world you live in. Well,
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 3: Clearly an activist judge who's taking politics into his own
Speaker 3: hands and trying to make a point. And it's it's
Speaker 3: in terms of property rights. It's an absolute nightmare, absolute nightmare.
Speaker 3: That's just a terrible way to look at the world though.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just you. If somebody I don't even
Speaker 2: know gets a nicer stuff that makes me less happy,
Speaker 2: that's just weird. I think it's just leverage.
Speaker 3: It's purely leverage, and it's it's indefensible, I think. But
Speaker 3: if I were going to defend it, I would hit
Speaker 3: you with the rest of the story. Okay, can the
Speaker 3: late Paul Harvey sue me for that or his or
Speaker 3: his kin folk? That was parody anyway, So they quote
Speaker 3: various people about how outrageous it is and the rest
Speaker 3: of it. But then they get into that Beverly Hills
Speaker 3: where entreprene and entertainers from Jeff Bezos to Leonardo DiCaprio
Speaker 3: and Taylor swift own mansions, opulent hotels attract well heeled visitors,
Speaker 3: and glamorous boutiques make rodeo dry blah.
Speaker 2: Blah blah shopping blah blah blah, and.
Speaker 3: So okay, great. We all know that, but I hadn't realized.
Speaker 3: I'm only dimly aware of the fact that there's a
Speaker 3: fifty year old state law that requires local governments to
Speaker 3: plan for a growing population and allow people of all
Speaker 3: incomes to live in every community. It's like an anti
Speaker 3: Nimby law not in my backyard, passed in nineteen seventy ish,
Speaker 3: seventy five ish to make sure that the growing population
Speaker 3: would be a would be accommodated everywhere in California, and
Speaker 3: like rich Enclaves couldn't keep people out.
Speaker 2: Maybe you like that idea, maybe you don't.
Speaker 3: But Beverly Hill's efforts to invade that are hilarious, hilarious,
Speaker 3: And that's.
Speaker 2: The part of the article.
Speaker 3: I'm glad I read the whole thing, because you'd never
Speaker 3: know it from the first you know, quite a few paragraphs.
Speaker 3: So in nineteen seventy the population in Beverly Hills was
Speaker 3: thirty three thousand, four hundred thirty three thousand, four hundred.
Speaker 3: Today it is thirty two thousand and four hundred, so
Speaker 3: it's declined by a thousand people. Over the same period,
Speaker 3: the number of California residents has nearly has doubled to
Speaker 3: nearly forty million people. So while the population of California
Speaker 3: has doubled, Beverly Hills found a way to kick outdred
Speaker 3: one thousand people and become even more exclusive.
Speaker 2: I didn't know Beverly Hills itself was that small. And aside,
Speaker 2: having just read the Charlie Chaplin autobiography, his good friend
Speaker 2: Douglas Fairbanks, famous actor, had a ranch there, and he
Speaker 2: go out to Douglas Fairbanks ranch and they would ride horses.
Speaker 2: They love being in Beverly Hills because it was so
Speaker 2: far from Los Angeles and the roads were so bad,
Speaker 2: just one rutted dirt road that nobody would come out
Speaker 2: there to visit. So they are all alone. Isn't that
Speaker 2: interesting to picture? Yeah? Near early twentieth century.
Speaker 3: And who was who was the actor I read about?
Speaker 3: He was kind of Fred McMurray. I think it was
Speaker 3: who was the dad on my three sons? And you know,
Speaker 3: he'd play the stiff, upstanding, stoic guy in movies, or
Speaker 3: maybe a cowboy or something like that. But here was
Speaker 3: his fine actor, but not a big star. But I
Speaker 3: think it was him, and don't assue me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 3: But he said, wow, La Metro seems to be grown
Speaker 3: out in this direction.
Speaker 2: I'll bet it'd be a good investment.
Speaker 3: To buy a load of land out in Beverly Hills
Speaker 3: and San Fernando Valley wherever it was.
Speaker 2: And he became like mind bogglingly wealthy through that.
Speaker 3: And was like an institution in that area, just because
Speaker 3: he had foresight about real estate.
Speaker 2: Anyway, so we've gotten a little off track, but it
Speaker 2: does matter who cares.
Speaker 3: So anyway, they have been incredibly effective at having no
Speaker 3: population growth.
Speaker 2: No poor people know.
Speaker 3: Nothing, in defiance of all state law, says Thomas White,
Speaker 3: chair of the Municipal League, a sixty year old civic organization.
Speaker 3: We have intentionally created a desirable environment by deliberately avoiding
Speaker 3: over development and over densification.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we all want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so over densification is kind of funny.
Speaker 2: So under the law, every state every eight.
Speaker 3: Years, the state of cal Unicornea, which is of course
Speaker 3: where realism goes to die, tells all cities how many
Speaker 3: new homes they need to accommodate every eight years. In
Speaker 3: the cycle before this one, Beverly Hills total was three,
Speaker 3: an amount so miniskeule. Given the depths of California's housing
Speaker 3: problems that it invited national attention. So in an effort
Speaker 3: to combat widespread housing affordability, reduce carbon emissions, blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: there have been a series of unrealistic laws passed in Calfornia.
Speaker 3: No longer would wealthy enclaves get a pass, citing the
Speaker 3: discriminatory effects of low density zoning laws and research showing
Speaker 3: better economic and health outcomes for low income families that
Speaker 3: can move to richer areas. So in the current period,
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills target under the housing plan jumped to thirty
Speaker 3: one hundred and four homes, So from what was it before?
Speaker 3: Two three? So from three to thirty one hundred homes,
Speaker 3: you've got to build them, and three quarters of them
Speaker 3: have to be affordable to low and middle income residents.
Speaker 2: High day, Yeah, how old, hey do that? Well?
Speaker 3: So Beverly Hills, which of course has lots and lots
Speaker 3: of super rich lawyers there and can can figure out
Speaker 3: a way around these laws. Kept putting forth plans for
Speaker 3: how they're going to provide, you know, thousands of new
Speaker 3: affordable housing units, and the state has rejected five in
Speaker 3: a row now, most recently in December, California Housing Department
Speaker 3: officials said this city is overestimating how many of its
Speaker 3: commercial properties could add residential development and criticize the plan
Speaker 3: on fair housing grounds because it wasn't putting housing in
Speaker 3: the cities wider and more affluent areas.
Speaker 2: All right, I know this seems kind of dry to you.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm working up to.
Speaker 3: The judge after they rejected the latest plan, pointed out
Speaker 3: that Beverly Hills is counting on medical office buildings and
Speaker 3: car dealerships to convert to housing, despite the city's own
Speaker 3: concession that it's unlikely to happen. For instance, in their plan,
Speaker 3: they set an Audie dealership on Wiltshire Boulevard that was
Speaker 3: just renovated as a car dealership. It could be turned
Speaker 3: into forty one apartments, and of.
Speaker 2: Course you go to the Audi dealer and he's like,
Speaker 2: what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 3: And so Beverly Hills is cooking up these utterly fictional
Speaker 3: plans to the state. Yes, we're going to turn the
Speaker 3: OUTI dealer into forty one affordable apartments.
Speaker 2: And the I was gonna say, McDonald's, I don't suppose.
Speaker 2: There's probably McDonald's in Beverly Hills. I don't know.
Speaker 3: But and of course this grocery store is going to
Speaker 3: become three hundred units. And again you go to the
Speaker 3: grocery store owner and they're like, I have no idea
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. This is a profitable grocery store.
Speaker 3: We have no plans to change it. And so the
Speaker 3: super rich, who I guarantee you if you pulled them,
Speaker 3: would be left of Obama, right, they'd be left of
Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders. They haven't voted for an r in one
Speaker 3: hundred and ten years, are doing are going to extraordinary
Speaker 3: lengths to evade all of this stuff.
Speaker 2: This is the sort of thing Tucker Carlson Noise used
Speaker 2: to talk about that I was really on board with.
Speaker 2: Is how a lot of your powerful lefties are in
Speaker 2: favor of all these policies that don't affect them. They're
Speaker 2: fine with it affecting everybody else, Like ninety nine point
Speaker 2: nine percent of people just not that hop wrong we
Speaker 2: don't want a legal immigration to get into our neighborhood.
Speaker 2: We don't want to have you know, low housing, income
Speaker 2: housing in our neighborhood, but all of the rest of
Speaker 2: the state should. I mean, it's classic socialism. Really, the
Speaker 2: very people, the very top like all this equality. As
Speaker 2: long as long as I get more than everybody else,
Speaker 2: there should be plenty of equality beneath me, right right,
Speaker 2: freaking maddening.
Speaker 4: It's like when you see those Man on the Street
Speaker 4: videos where the guy goes up to the people participating
Speaker 4: in the Sanctuary City protest where everybody gets a home
Speaker 4: and they're welcome and goes, okay, well let them come
Speaker 4: to your house. I'm like, oh, well, I don't have room,
Speaker 4: and no right, it's everybody else's problem.
Speaker 3: I would love to see a list of Gavin Newsom's
Speaker 3: top one hundred donors and then see a map of
Speaker 3: their homes and how close any affordable housing is to them,
Speaker 3: or even like a house that the median income earner
Speaker 3: in California could afford. I'll bet it's like miles to
Speaker 3: the nearest house that's under a million bucks.
Speaker 2: I mean from yeah, well, I hate this sort of
Speaker 2: law in general, but if you're going to let the
Speaker 2: super wealthy and connected get away with not having to
Speaker 2: obey it. It's like ten times worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, there's plenty I disagree with Tucker
Speaker 3: on these days, but that point he makes, it's what.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, who's uh Peggy Noonan.
Speaker 3: We're talking about her editorial recently that was so good
Speaker 3: about why Trump has as much support as he does,
Speaker 3: and she's talking about the protected.
Speaker 2: Class and the unprotected class.
Speaker 3: You can unleash whatever stupid ass policies or decisions or
Speaker 3: economic moves or whatever. The protected class isn't going to
Speaker 3: suffer an iota. They'll be perfectly fine. And that's what
Speaker 3: we're talking about here, the protected class that has gone
Speaker 3: to lengths that are utterly comedic to make sure their
Speaker 3: neighborhoods remain exclusive, civily enclaves of the super rich and powerful,
Speaker 3: even while demanding the rest of us, you know, go
Speaker 3: through whatever gyrations they demand to do the good that
Speaker 3: they think on a happening.
Speaker 2: Do they know how hypocritical they are when they are
Speaker 2: on stage getting their oscar and talking about equality in
Speaker 2: the downtrodden, But they won't let any lower income housing
Speaker 2: in their neighborhood. I mean, do they realize that or
Speaker 2: do they somehow do some mental gymnastics to get out
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 3: I think, in my experience, including my personal experience inside
Speaker 3: my own head, human beings have an unbelievable capacity to
Speaker 3: shove something out.
Speaker 2: Do they actually believe they're of like a different cast that.
Speaker 3: Doesn't I think they Again, they have like a lurking guilt,
Speaker 3: but they.
Speaker 2: Keep it at bay or I donate so much to
Speaker 2: charity that it's fine. That doesn't allow Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and the up and property values would be absolutely catastrophic,
Speaker 3: and you just you can't ask. I would not ask
Speaker 3: somebody in you know, the San Fernando Valley, name your
Speaker 3: you know, your your suburb. I would not ask somebody
Speaker 3: to have that sort of burden personally. And and so then
Speaker 3: they get to portray themselves as I'm I'm actually I'm
Speaker 3: not standing up for me. I'm standing up for middle
Speaker 3: class people who don't want to see so that it
Speaker 3: needs to be done carefully. I'm in favor of affordable housing,
Speaker 3: but it needs to be done in a way that's
Speaker 3: smart and efficient. And and wait a minute, what else
Speaker 3: would oh and recognizes environmental imperatives as right right, right right.
Speaker 3: And we have a great deal of green space here
Speaker 3: in Beverly Hills, and I employ so many people.
Speaker 2: I employ gardeners and pool people and a grotto scrubber.
Speaker 4: Jeez, grotto scrubber ever ruined the word grotto?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Grotto's are no longer enjoyable.
Speaker 4: You used to like to go to the Fisherman's Grotto
Speaker 4: in San Francisco when it was still open.
Speaker 2: Never again ruined. You get mildo and your mildew and
Speaker 2: your grotto.
Speaker 4: Oh, I swear, I swear all cross. Usually you're the
Speaker 4: one that keeps the class in the operation. What are
Speaker 4: you doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I've given up.
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Speaker 2: So this song? Do enough people know the original song
Speaker 2: for this to me? I guess we're assuming.
Speaker 3: So it was a big and if you don't, you
Speaker 3: know grab it.
Speaker 2: It was about a kid going over to his friend's
Speaker 2: house and he recognizes that his friend's mom is kind
Speaker 2: of hot and he wishes he could get with her.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, specifically he's going over to his girlfriend's house.
Speaker 3: Thing can I don't want to be with you, I
Speaker 3: want to be with your mom short of and so
Speaker 3: we've got that. I haven't heard this thing any other
Speaker 3: setup required king.
Speaker 4: Uh, this is it's basically talking about how now.
Speaker 2: That we're older, this song is okay, gotcha? Okay? I
Speaker 2: have so many quistions. Now for Stacy's mom.
Speaker 4: Stacy's mom, why did she come out with just a twl.
Speaker 2: That's a good push towel.
Speaker 4: When she knew that he was gone and mow her grass,
Speaker 4: low her grass.
Speaker 2: Stacy's mom is like the people Chris Hansen with p
Speaker 2: dancing with.
Speaker 3: Growing up, it was a fantasy, but it's a little.
Speaker 2: Different now than I'm thirty three.
Speaker 3: Stacy's she put some clues so wrong, says something wrong.
Speaker 2: That's pretty clever.
Speaker 3: That's funny. I missed that one line in the middle
Speaker 3: that you guys thought was so funny being called by
Speaker 3: Chris Hanson, the guy who does the Predator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is funny.
Speaker 4: You're seeming like one of the people Chris Hansen would hatch.
Speaker 2: Answered the catch. Oh that's beautiful. He goes on and
Speaker 2: one of the things he goes.
Speaker 4: Could you imagine if it was Stacy's dad, how bad this?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you're right. You got your daughter's teenage
Speaker 2: boyfriend at the house. You don't come out and just
Speaker 2: a towel and flaunt it. That makes you a weirdo.
Speaker 2: It could be a felony that I'm thirty three seems
Speaker 2: kind of weird. Something's wrong with Stacy's fall.
Speaker 3: I always it's the thing I liked about Fountains of
Speaker 3: Wayne was how they were willing to not take themselves
Speaker 3: seriously at all, with like pooh ooh, ooh ooh.
Speaker 2: Nobody nobody would sing that like.
Speaker 3: Poo ooh ooh, no no, and then it's perfect, incredibly
Speaker 3: well crafted pop music.
Speaker 2: I mean really good. My son, my twelve year old's
Speaker 2: favorite song from that album, he just loves it so much,
Speaker 2: as that one about I'm gonna get my together.
Speaker 3: Oh I can't live like this forever? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Fountains of Wayne, May they flow forever in our hearts.
Speaker 2: I was actually surprised, and then I'll be done talking
Speaker 2: about Fountains wayn because I don't know how many people
Speaker 2: know who that band is, but they have several songs,
Speaker 2: quite a few songs that are about modern life, about
Speaker 2: like the modern workplace. And I thought, Okay, that's gonna
Speaker 2: become a thing because it's so relatable for young people,
Speaker 2: you know, in their experiences with modern workplace. But it hasn't.
Speaker 2: And I don't know why, but I thought that would
Speaker 2: become a genre of music, you know, just modern.
Speaker 3: Cubicle life, cubicle rock. Yeah, that doesn't sound attractive. Wow, Well,
Speaker 3: they have several great songs that are great about it.
Speaker 4: But that's actually brilliant because think about the show The Office.
Speaker 2: How that's coffee? Did that musically exactly?
Speaker 3: Also known as cashier pop, dead end job?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What does bts? The Korean kids sing about love and
Speaker 3: of course nobody's in nobody has sex in Korea, so
Speaker 3: why bother right?
Speaker 2: Crushes? They all have crushes and giggle about it, I guess,
Speaker 2: but never actually get to see there. You know, they
Speaker 2: never get to hit it like a CHAMPI if you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yeah, which is tragic. Quick question
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