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Speaker 2: What do you think I paid for my used elliptical

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Speaker 2: I bought fifteen years ago. It's a really good one.

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Speaker 2: It's actually from a gym, so it's the heavy duty

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Speaker 2: commercial quality sure like you use at the gym. Who's

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Speaker 2: freaking really really good. But I bought it used. Would

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Speaker 2: you have a guess what I probably paid for? It

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Speaker 2: knew when it was new, used when I bought it

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Speaker 2: from Craigslist. Five hundred bucks.

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Speaker 3: I was going to go seven hundred You think it

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Speaker 3: was a gym quality, Yeah, more than that, because I

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Speaker 3: bought one much more recently than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to think hundreds too low, like

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Speaker 3: twelve hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, might have been anyway, because I just moved it.

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Speaker 2: For see, I was living in that house, moved to

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Speaker 2: that house, moved to this house. This is the fourth

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Speaker 2: place I've had it in and I've I've used it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the total I've spent on moving it.

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Speaker 2: I was googling to see roughly what it costs. But

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Speaker 2: this is the fourth place I've moved it to, and

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Speaker 2: so because it weighs more than three hundred pounds, there's

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Speaker 2: a special price for that. So I paid a couple

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Speaker 2: of hundred bucks to have it moved. Again. The total

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Speaker 2: amount of time cumulative that I've spent on that elliptical

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Speaker 2: machine has got to be less than twenty minutes in

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Speaker 2: fifteen years. And fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you can get like a high dollar hooker for

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Speaker 3: a lower hourly rate than that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not worried about the price. I'm putting it

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Speaker 2: in the category of is this the stupidest craziest, least

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Speaker 2: sensical thing I've ever done in my life. And that's

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Speaker 2: a high bar, trust me.

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Speaker 4: They like, do you have a plan in life where

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Speaker 4: you're like, I'm gonna I'm gonna get on that thing

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Speaker 4: that's gonna be after work going home thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: I guess, Okay, I guess I do.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to get a good quality gym level used

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Speaker 3: elliptical for less than fifteen hundred dollars, Okay, I just

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Speaker 3: essentially what I remember.

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Speaker 2: I might have spent a thousand dollars on it, but

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Speaker 2: I've spent another thousand dollars moving it four times at

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Speaker 2: least and again cumulative over fifteen years. Twenty minutes, and

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Speaker 2: I'm probably on the high end. Use it or sell it.

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Speaker 3: In a minute and a half per year, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean use it or sell it.

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Speaker 2: You used it or sell it at what point? Now? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not. It's sort of become like a I don't know,

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Speaker 2: almost like a joke. Now.

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Speaker 4: I was one of those sorry folks that fell victim

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Speaker 4: to the Peloton during COVID the Peloton bikes, and I

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Speaker 4: used that thing twice and then it turned into a

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Speaker 4: get rid of this thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, Wow, that's funny.

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Speaker 3: I've used a peloton more than that at the gym,

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Speaker 3: but not for some time. The seat did not love

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Speaker 3: the seats, and I got a piece of gear. You

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Speaker 3: don't actually said yeah, where were we?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, give yourself two weeks.

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Speaker 3: And then get rid of the damn thing. Quit throwing

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Speaker 3: good money after bad. Although you say it's kind of

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Speaker 2: I keep thinking my kids might use it. Yes, Michael, No,

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Speaker 2: I say just dump it, just take it to the dump. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's definitely too nice. I would I would give it

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Speaker 3: Here's what you do. I got a brilliant idea. You

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Speaker 3: just you're in a store, you're walking down the street.

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Speaker 3: You come across a heavy set person and you say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I have an elliptical for you. You probably have bad knees,

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Speaker 2: right carrying that luggage around. Huh, You don't want to

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Speaker 2: run or want That's what that's great about the elliptical.

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Speaker 2: I all you have to do is pick it up.

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Speaker 2: As I'll walk up to and say, you're probably what

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Speaker 2: thirty three thirty four thirty four? What bmi? Yeah, probably

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Speaker 2: thirty four bmi? Wow, not analyptical. Yeah, go up and

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Speaker 2: put a measuring tape around their waist. Jeez, oh my god. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what there.

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Speaker 3: What's underrated by people who don't understand economies and markets

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Speaker 3: and that sort of thing is the concept of and

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Speaker 3: I don't know the technical term, but it's the infrastructure

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Speaker 3: to sell the ability to you know, obviously, take in

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Speaker 2: That's the obvious part. That's the easy part.

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Speaker 3: But to hold an inventory, to ship it, to deliver it,

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Speaker 3: to be a place where multiple buyers can come and

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Speaker 3: the price can be set by the free market, as

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Speaker 3: opposed to add, dude with an elliptical who wants to

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Speaker 3: get rid of it?

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Speaker 2: You are in such a weak Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I will tell you Facebook marketplace and offer up

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Speaker 4: as where I've gotten rid of both of my pieces

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Speaker 4: of exercise equipment that were large, and you can select

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's worked easily. So Joe and I both

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Speaker 2: had Nordic tracks twenty five years ago because we were

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Speaker 2: endorsing Nordic track Thank you Gladys. And it was the

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Speaker 2: and I use that one like I don't know, five minutes. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: when I went to move, I wasn't going to haul

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Speaker 2: Think I put an ad in the paper for it,

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Speaker 2: that's how long it was ago, and nobody was interested.

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Speaker 2: And then I asked people around and nobody was interested.

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Speaker 2: And then I took it to the good Will and

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Speaker 2: nobody would take it. You literally couldn't give it away.

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Speaker 2: I finally, out of frustration after dark, drove behind the

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Speaker 3: Oh, confess to felony littering exercise equipment just it's amazing

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Speaker 3: that they sell so much of it new. There are stores.

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Speaker 3: There's a store not far from here from the radio

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Speaker 3: sell stuff. Man, buy that you host.

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Speaker 2: You two hundred dollars to get rid of it. That's

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Speaker 2: my prediction. Probably right, I'll keep it. I'll keep it

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Speaker 2: in this house. Maybe next move I'll finally decide. You know.

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Speaker 2: One of the problems this makes me feel better by myself,

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Speaker 2: so maybe I'm just kidding myself. One of the reasons

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Speaker 2: I don't use it as much is I live someplace

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Speaker 2: think I'd rather go outside and do it. So I like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to Why you're not exercising on

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Speaker 2: Nice, right, Well, I am getting exercise all yeah. Or

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Speaker 2: I ride my bike just sure ambling down the streets,

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Speaker 2: walking into the donut shop, walking back out of the

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Speaker 2: donut shop, looking for somebody heavy to give your elliptical

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Speaker 2: to one other thing on the move in my crap

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Speaker 2: was I have so many things that I've moved that

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Speaker 2: like it's a like a kind of a bookshelf where

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Speaker 2: it's a lamp or whatever. Like I would never buy it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's crappy, and I don't even need it,

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Speaker 2: but I move it. It's just it's weird. The inertia

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Speaker 2: of stuff. I kept thinking about that merry condo woman

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Speaker 2: where you're supposed to hold up you hold up every

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Speaker 2: item and see if it makes your heart singing. If

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Speaker 2: it doesn't, you're supposed to throw it away, which makes

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Speaker 2: more sense than not. I got so many things. It's

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Speaker 3: Depends on your personality type and how you grew up too, right,

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Speaker 3: the throwing something away that's perfectly good would not happen

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Speaker 3: been familiar with spoiled, little rich kids who they would

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Speaker 3: not going to get rid of something that has value,

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Speaker 2: that are did you go through a painstakingly and pick

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Speaker 3: We we curated it like a museum. Two Revolutionary War

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Speaker 3: Get a couple of Civil War era and then you

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Speaker 2: It now every every Birthday card, Father's Day card that

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Speaker 2: I get in from my kids, I got all those

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Speaker 2: still in one spot. Those aren't going anywhere until I die.

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Speaker 2: No agreed, Ye are Strong?

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Speaker 3: So a couple of completely non political stories that I

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Speaker 3: found very interesting, both about the human brain, love love,

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Speaker 3: I love love. When you feel love, how does your

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Speaker 3: Finland set out to explore the neural basis of love,

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Speaker 2: it wherever you find all your podcasts. This was so funny.

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Speaker 3: over development and over densification.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we all want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so over densification is kind of funny.

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Speaker 2: So under the law, every state every eight.

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Speaker 3: Years, the state of cal Unicornea, which is of course

442
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Speaker 3: where realism goes to die, tells all cities how many

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Speaker 3: new homes they need to accommodate every eight years. In

444
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Speaker 3: the cycle before this one, Beverly Hills total was three,

445
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Speaker 3: an amount so miniskeule. Given the depths of California's housing

446
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: problems that it invited national attention. So in an effort

447
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 3: to combat widespread housing affordability, reduce carbon emissions, blah blah blah,

448
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Speaker 3: there have been a series of unrealistic laws passed in Calfornia.

449
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Speaker 3: No longer would wealthy enclaves get a pass, citing the

450
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Speaker 3: discriminatory effects of low density zoning laws and research showing

451
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Speaker 3: better economic and health outcomes for low income families that

452
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Speaker 3: can move to richer areas. So in the current period,

453
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Speaker 3: Beverly Hills target under the housing plan jumped to thirty

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Speaker 3: one hundred and four homes, So from what was it before?

455
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Speaker 3: Two three? So from three to thirty one hundred homes,

456
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Speaker 3: you've got to build them, and three quarters of them

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Speaker 3: have to be affordable to low and middle income residents.

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Speaker 2: High day, Yeah, how old, hey do that? Well?

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Speaker 3: So Beverly Hills, which of course has lots and lots

460
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Speaker 3: of super rich lawyers there and can can figure out

461
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Speaker 3: a way around these laws. Kept putting forth plans for

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Speaker 3: how they're going to provide, you know, thousands of new

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Speaker 3: affordable housing units, and the state has rejected five in

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Speaker 3: a row now, most recently in December, California Housing Department

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Speaker 3: officials said this city is overestimating how many of its

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Speaker 3: commercial properties could add residential development and criticize the plan

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Speaker 3: on fair housing grounds because it wasn't putting housing in

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Speaker 3: the cities wider and more affluent areas.

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Speaker 2: All right, I know this seems kind of dry to you.

470
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Speaker 2: Here's what I'm working up to.

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Speaker 3: The judge after they rejected the latest plan, pointed out

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Speaker 3: that Beverly Hills is counting on medical office buildings and

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Speaker 3: car dealerships to convert to housing, despite the city's own

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Speaker 3: concession that it's unlikely to happen. For instance, in their plan,

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Speaker 3: they set an Audie dealership on Wiltshire Boulevard that was

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Speaker 3: just renovated as a car dealership. It could be turned

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Speaker 3: into forty one apartments, and of.

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Speaker 2: Course you go to the Audi dealer and he's like,

479
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Speaker 2: what the hell are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: And so Beverly Hills is cooking up these utterly fictional

481
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Speaker 3: plans to the state. Yes, we're going to turn the

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Speaker 3: OUTI dealer into forty one affordable apartments.

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Speaker 2: And the I was gonna say, McDonald's, I don't suppose.

484
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Speaker 2: There's probably McDonald's in Beverly Hills. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But and of course this grocery store is going to

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Speaker 3: become three hundred units. And again you go to the

487
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Speaker 3: grocery store owner and they're like, I have no idea

488
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Speaker 3: what you're talking about. This is a profitable grocery store.

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Speaker 3: We have no plans to change it. And so the

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Speaker 3: super rich, who I guarantee you if you pulled them,

491
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Speaker 3: would be left of Obama, right, they'd be left of

492
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Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders. They haven't voted for an r in one

493
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Speaker 3: hundred and ten years, are doing are going to extraordinary

494
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Speaker 3: lengths to evade all of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: This is the sort of thing Tucker Carlson Noise used

496
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: to talk about that I was really on board with.

497
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: Is how a lot of your powerful lefties are in

498
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Speaker 2: favor of all these policies that don't affect them. They're

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Speaker 2: fine with it affecting everybody else, Like ninety nine point

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Speaker 2: nine percent of people just not that hop wrong we

501
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Speaker 2: don't want a legal immigration to get into our neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to have you know, low housing, income

503
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Speaker 2: housing in our neighborhood, but all of the rest of

504
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Speaker 2: the state should. I mean, it's classic socialism. Really, the

505
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: very people, the very top like all this equality. As

506
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Speaker 2: long as long as I get more than everybody else,

507
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Speaker 2: there should be plenty of equality beneath me, right right,

508
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Speaker 2: freaking maddening.

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Speaker 4: It's like when you see those Man on the Street

510
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Speaker 4: videos where the guy goes up to the people participating

511
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Speaker 4: in the Sanctuary City protest where everybody gets a home

512
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 4: and they're welcome and goes, okay, well let them come

513
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Speaker 4: to your house. I'm like, oh, well, I don't have room,

514
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Speaker 4: and no right, it's everybody else's problem.

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Speaker 3: I would love to see a list of Gavin Newsom's

516
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Speaker 3: top one hundred donors and then see a map of

517
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Speaker 3: their homes and how close any affordable housing is to them,

518
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Speaker 3: or even like a house that the median income earner

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Speaker 3: in California could afford. I'll bet it's like miles to

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Speaker 3: the nearest house that's under a million bucks.

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Speaker 2: I mean from yeah, well, I hate this sort of

522
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Speaker 2: law in general, but if you're going to let the

523
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Speaker 2: super wealthy and connected get away with not having to

524
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: obey it. It's like ten times worse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, there's plenty I disagree with Tucker

526
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Speaker 3: on these days, but that point he makes, it's what.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, who's uh Peggy Noonan.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about her editorial recently that was so good

529
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: about why Trump has as much support as he does,

530
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Speaker 3: and she's talking about the protected.

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Speaker 2: Class and the unprotected class.

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Speaker 3: You can unleash whatever stupid ass policies or decisions or

533
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Speaker 3: economic moves or whatever. The protected class isn't going to

534
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Speaker 3: suffer an iota. They'll be perfectly fine. And that's what

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Speaker 3: we're talking about here, the protected class that has gone

536
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Speaker 3: to lengths that are utterly comedic to make sure their

537
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Speaker 3: neighborhoods remain exclusive, civily enclaves of the super rich and powerful,

538
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: even while demanding the rest of us, you know, go

539
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: through whatever gyrations they demand to do the good that

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Speaker 3: they think on a happening.

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Speaker 2: Do they know how hypocritical they are when they are

542
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: on stage getting their oscar and talking about equality in

543
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Speaker 2: the downtrodden, But they won't let any lower income housing

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Speaker 2: in their neighborhood. I mean, do they realize that or

545
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Speaker 2: do they somehow do some mental gymnastics to get out

546
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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 3: I think, in my experience, including my personal experience inside

548
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Speaker 3: my own head, human beings have an unbelievable capacity to

549
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Speaker 3: shove something out.

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Speaker 2: Do they actually believe they're of like a different cast that.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't I think they Again, they have like a lurking guilt,

552
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: but they.

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Speaker 2: Keep it at bay or I donate so much to

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Speaker 2: charity that it's fine. That doesn't allow Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, and the up and property values would be absolutely catastrophic,

556
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Speaker 3: and you just you can't ask. I would not ask

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Speaker 3: somebody in you know, the San Fernando Valley, name your

558
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 3: you know, your your suburb. I would not ask somebody

559
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: to have that sort of burden personally. And and so then

560
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: they get to portray themselves as I'm I'm actually I'm

561
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Speaker 3: not standing up for me. I'm standing up for middle

562
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Speaker 3: class people who don't want to see so that it

563
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Speaker 3: needs to be done carefully. I'm in favor of affordable housing,

564
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Speaker 3: but it needs to be done in a way that's

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Speaker 3: smart and efficient. And and wait a minute, what else

566
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Speaker 3: would oh and recognizes environmental imperatives as right right, right right.

567
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Speaker 3: And we have a great deal of green space here

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Speaker 3: in Beverly Hills, and I employ so many people.

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Speaker 2: I employ gardeners and pool people and a grotto scrubber.

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Speaker 4: Jeez, grotto scrubber ever ruined the word grotto?

571
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Grotto's are no longer enjoyable.

572
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Speaker 4: You used to like to go to the Fisherman's Grotto

573
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: in San Francisco when it was still open.

574
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Speaker 2: Never again ruined. You get mildo and your mildew and

575
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Speaker 2: your grotto.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I swear, I swear all cross. Usually you're the

577
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Speaker 4: one that keeps the class in the operation. What are

578
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Speaker 4: you doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I've given up.

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583
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Speaker 2: So this song? Do enough people know the original song

585
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Speaker 2: for this to me? I guess we're assuming.

586
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Speaker 3: So it was a big and if you don't, you

587
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Speaker 3: know grab it.

588
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Speaker 2: It was about a kid going over to his friend's

589
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Speaker 2: house and he recognizes that his friend's mom is kind

590
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Speaker 2: of hot and he wishes he could get with her.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, specifically he's going over to his girlfriend's house.

592
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Speaker 3: Thing can I don't want to be with you, I

593
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Speaker 3: want to be with your mom short of and so

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Speaker 3: we've got that. I haven't heard this thing any other

595
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Speaker 3: setup required king.

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Speaker 4: Uh, this is it's basically talking about how now.

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Speaker 2: That we're older, this song is okay, gotcha? Okay? I

598
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Speaker 2: have so many quistions. Now for Stacy's mom.

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Speaker 4: Stacy's mom, why did she come out with just a twl.

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Speaker 2: That's a good push towel.

601
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: When she knew that he was gone and mow her grass,

602
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Speaker 4: low her grass.

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Speaker 2: Stacy's mom is like the people Chris Hansen with p

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Speaker 2: dancing with.

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Speaker 3: Growing up, it was a fantasy, but it's a little.

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Speaker 2: Different now than I'm thirty three.

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Speaker 3: Stacy's she put some clues so wrong, says something wrong.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty clever.

609
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Speaker 3: That's funny. I missed that one line in the middle

610
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Speaker 3: that you guys thought was so funny being called by

611
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Speaker 3: Chris Hanson, the guy who does the Predator.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is funny.

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Speaker 4: You're seeming like one of the people Chris Hansen would hatch.

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Speaker 2: Answered the catch. Oh that's beautiful. He goes on and

615
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Speaker 2: one of the things he goes.

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Speaker 4: Could you imagine if it was Stacy's dad, how bad this?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you're right. You got your daughter's teenage

618
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Speaker 2: boyfriend at the house. You don't come out and just

619
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Speaker 2: a towel and flaunt it. That makes you a weirdo.

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Speaker 2: It could be a felony that I'm thirty three seems

621
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Speaker 2: kind of weird. Something's wrong with Stacy's fall.

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Speaker 3: I always it's the thing I liked about Fountains of

623
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Speaker 3: Wayne was how they were willing to not take themselves

624
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Speaker 3: seriously at all, with like pooh ooh, ooh ooh.

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Speaker 2: Nobody nobody would sing that like.

626
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Speaker 3: Poo ooh ooh, no no, and then it's perfect, incredibly

627
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Speaker 3: well crafted pop music.

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Speaker 2: I mean really good. My son, my twelve year old's

629
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Speaker 2: favorite song from that album, he just loves it so much,

630
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Speaker 2: as that one about I'm gonna get my together.

631
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Speaker 3: Oh I can't live like this forever? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

632
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Speaker 3: Fountains of Wayne, May they flow forever in our hearts.

633
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Speaker 2: I was actually surprised, and then I'll be done talking

634
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Speaker 2: about Fountains wayn because I don't know how many people

635
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Speaker 2: know who that band is, but they have several songs,

636
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Speaker 2: quite a few songs that are about modern life, about

637
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Speaker 2: like the modern workplace. And I thought, Okay, that's gonna

638
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Speaker 2: become a thing because it's so relatable for young people,

639
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Speaker 2: you know, in their experiences with modern workplace. But it hasn't.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why, but I thought that would

641
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Speaker 2: become a genre of music, you know, just modern.

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Speaker 3: Cubicle life, cubicle rock. Yeah, that doesn't sound attractive. Wow, Well,

643
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: they have several great songs that are great about it.

644
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Speaker 4: But that's actually brilliant because think about the show The Office.

645
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Speaker 2: How that's coffee? Did that musically exactly?

646
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: Also known as cashier pop, dead end job?

647
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

648
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: What does bts? The Korean kids sing about love and

649
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: of course nobody's in nobody has sex in Korea, so

650
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Speaker 3: why bother right?

651
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Speaker 2: Crushes? They all have crushes and giggle about it, I guess,

652
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Speaker 2: but never actually get to see there. You know, they

653
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Speaker 2: never get to hit it like a CHAMPI if you

654
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yeah, which is tragic. Quick question

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