WEBVTT - Diddy Latest: What Happens to all that money?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Thursday, July tenth, and didty he

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<v Speaker 1>got a key to the city and now he had

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<v Speaker 1>to give it back. Howard University gave him an honorary degree.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to give that back to But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to get back his four hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar fortune. And with that, everybody, welcome to this Didy

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<v Speaker 1>update episode of Amy and TJ. Rose. We talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it was such a big win for him in the

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<v Speaker 1>courtroom with that verdict. That verdict gave him a very

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<v Speaker 1>big win in his finances.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct because had he been convicted of the more

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<v Speaker 2>serious charges sex trafficking and of course those that Rico charge,

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<v Speaker 2>racketeering and conspiracy, the Feds would then have been able

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<v Speaker 2>to justify seizing every piece of property that was used

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<v Speaker 2>while committing those crimes, including his mansions, including his private

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<v Speaker 2>plane where there were alleged incidents happening, including pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>everything he owns to transport and participate in his life,

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<v Speaker 2>because that would have been a part of his criminal enterprise.

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<v Speaker 3>You can argue, Rose that that's everything, every bit of

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<v Speaker 3>bad boy, every bit of his business, is every bit

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<v Speaker 3>of everything you were reaping benefits all of this was

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<v Speaker 3>a whole organization working and they could go after that money.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't piece it together at the time because I

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<v Speaker 1>think most of us were thinking about verdict and jail time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is enormous for Sean Combs to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to hold on to assets, a huge fortune. Look, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into some of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>is going out. Money is not coming in as quickly

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<v Speaker 1>or at all or at all. And again, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>weird to think. Yes, so much was lost during his trial,

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<v Speaker 1>and so many victims and so much pain, But financially speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>this was enormous for him to hear not guilty on racketeering.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true because this was one of the wealthiest black

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<v Speaker 2>men in the world, fair to say, certainly in this country,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was so much at stake, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>facing losing his freedom but also everything he had earned

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<v Speaker 2>throughout his life, perhaps that he wanted to pass on

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<v Speaker 2>to his children and their children. They talked about. The

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<v Speaker 2>prosecution talked about him having an enterprise, and that a

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<v Speaker 2>criminal enterprise, and that was certainly not believed necessarily by

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<v Speaker 2>the jury or a lot of folks who were listening.

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<v Speaker 2>But he did have an empire, so to speak. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he was called a music mogul.

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<v Speaker 1>And it all started, of course with music. You go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the nineties, a lot of people didn't maybe

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<v Speaker 1>initially know the name Puffy or p Diddy, but Notorious

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<v Speaker 1>Vig Biggie Smalls. Like, even if you didn't know his music,

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<v Speaker 1>which most people do, you still remembered how he was killed,

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<v Speaker 1>how Tupac was killed. Right, he was such a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the culture. You know him did he was right

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<v Speaker 1>behind him producing those albums and pushing and pushing and

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<v Speaker 1>pushing one of the biggest stars hip hop has. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's where it started. But Robes he took hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>and music and hits, and then he built an empire.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why we call him a mogal. Now had

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<v Speaker 1>he had a long list of things that he was successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it wasn't just Bad Boy records, but he also

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<v Speaker 2>had Remember the clothing line Sean John that was everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I still see it sometimes on the

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<v Speaker 2>streets of New York. He had a television network, Revolt TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Network, based down in Atlanta. I remember going by that

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<v Speaker 1>place before. I had friends that worked there.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely heard about his alcohol companies right, Sarrak vodka daily

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<v Speaker 2>on Tequila Soirak I'm more familiar with and those that

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<v Speaker 2>got those, Yeah, and just I was just looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the ads. Actually he no longer is a part of

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<v Speaker 2>them or affiliated with them, but it's very sexy, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very European and he was certainly a big promoter of

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<v Speaker 2>it until all of this. And I didn't know this,

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<v Speaker 2>but he had a water company, Aqua Hydrate.

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<v Speaker 1>Alkaline water company, owned it with Mark, I believe, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they ended up building it up, selling it for

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<v Speaker 1>a mint and still had shares in it. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing great. And look, don't take our word for it.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who keep up with these numbers. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a regular at Forbes. He was on list after list,

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<v Speaker 1>year after year, and as recently rose as two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't that long ago. He was still making the

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<v Speaker 1>list as one of the most well paid celebrities.

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<v Speaker 2>In this country, highest earning celebrities. He made the list

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<v Speaker 2>on two thousand, but I'm sorry. He made some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>incredible lists after that. On Forbes five back in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>the richest in Hip hop eight hundred and twenty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how much. Forbes said he was worth in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>and that put him.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one on the list of hip hop earners that year,

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<v Speaker 1>that above who else, Doctor Dre. I think jay Z

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<v Speaker 1>was number two. I think Kanye is on the list

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<v Speaker 1>to keep going through. I think now, I mean Drake

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<v Speaker 1>was getting going at that point. Those are the name

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<v Speaker 1>some of the biggest names, and he was number one

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<v Speaker 1>on top.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the all number one twenty nineteen. He was reportedly

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<v Speaker 2>worth seven hundred and forty million. That's what you keep

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<v Speaker 2>hearing people refer back to. And most folks say he

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<v Speaker 2>was well on his way to billionaire status. And I

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<v Speaker 2>believe there were folks within the Combs camp who said,

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<v Speaker 2>before all of this happened, before the allegations first surfaced

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<v Speaker 2>from Cassie, he had a billion I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was ever proven, but they definitely said he was a

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<v Speaker 2>billionaire when that lawsuit came about just what a year

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<v Speaker 2>and a half ago, thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a year and a half ago. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing well. If he's not on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the music industry anymore, in the past couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>he was still doing well. The latest estimates had his

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<v Speaker 1>value at least at trial time, if you will, at

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<v Speaker 1>around four hundred million dollars. So that's what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about him going into this trial, if you will, if

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<v Speaker 1>you believe the estimates, he was sitting on about four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars. So lawsuit start getting dropped, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie's lawsuit drops.

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<v Speaker 2>He settles that one twenty million dollars out of pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Start doing some math there, twenty million dollars out of

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<v Speaker 1>pocket and nobody knows what these civil lawsuits, how that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go down. But that's a lot of lawyers, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of lawyers.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you aren't paying out, even if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>even reach a settlement and you make them go away,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still paying your lawyers to handle each and every

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<v Speaker 2>one of those lawsuits. And this is actually a true statement.

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<v Speaker 2>When you google and you try to find out just

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<v Speaker 2>how many civil lawsuits there are now against Diddy, it's

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<v Speaker 2>too many to count. I don't know that anyone has

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<v Speaker 2>an accurate number, that's but dozens and dozens is what

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<v Speaker 2>people typically are reporting. But that's kind of insane when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it. There are so many lawsuits against you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're all in the millions, and there are

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<v Speaker 2>too many to count.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's lawyers. Forget the settlements that might come, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's lawyers. There isn't even an estimate of how much

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<v Speaker 1>that can cost him. So he's sitting on four hundred million.

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<v Speaker 1>It's minus twenty for Cassie. Now, how much does his

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<v Speaker 1>defense team cost? The best in the business? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>eight of them? I think, working NonStop for you since

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot even imagine how much. I know how much

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<v Speaker 2>the little bit of lawyers fees that I had to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for a couple of days worth of work, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was seven figures, So I can't imagine what is

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<v Speaker 2>it one hundred million dollars now I'm discussing, No, but

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<v Speaker 2>at least at least fifty million, twenty five million.

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<v Speaker 1>They well, the estimates of the experts out there say

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<v Speaker 1>it's at least eight figures. Obviously in the eight figures,

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<v Speaker 1>but ten fifteen is where they land. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that sound high? Does it sound low? That's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there were so many lawyers too, with all big

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<v Speaker 2>names and big firms and pair.

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<v Speaker 1>Of legals, and that everybody's working around the clot you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, it worked. Whatever he spent, it was worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was worth it. It was an investment in his freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So money isn't coming necessarily back in music though

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<v Speaker 1>he is still and has been making it for the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of years. If you have not noticed, Diddy

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<v Speaker 1>has put out I guess a critically acclaimed or at

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<v Speaker 1>least Grammy nominated album just in the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty three love album Off the Grid Grammy nominated,

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<v Speaker 2>and as a part of that whole process he had

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't realize this jenomena, the Age of Pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a part of that, and she actually was

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<v Speaker 2>nominated as well. The same year twenty twenty three, he

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<v Speaker 2>had two Grammy nominations.

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<v Speaker 1>So they don't have a lot, at least on the

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<v Speaker 1>slate of bad Boy artists. You can't name it to

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<v Speaker 1>have big projects or have big tours of doing anything

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<v Speaker 1>big at this point. But bad Boy is still operational

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<v Speaker 1>as of two years ago, put out two albums that actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Were critically acclaimed.

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<v Speaker 1>We're critically acclaimed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>That does not mean necessarily that bad Boy Enter two

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<v Speaker 1>is bawling at this point, but his streaming music is everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, his own stuff, but he's a producer on

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<v Speaker 1>so much. He's just so present all over in streaming

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<v Speaker 1>and robes, at least at this point most I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not disappearing from the streaming sites.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. In fact, this was an interesting tidbit.

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<v Speaker 2>His music saw a twenty percent boost in US streaming

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<v Speaker 2>between April and May of twenty twenty five. Why then, hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's so interesting. Apparently, if you're making headlines, even

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<v Speaker 2>for all the bad, worst reasons, you can imagine people

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<v Speaker 2>are interested and click on your music and listen to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is exactly what happened. In fact, an article

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<v Speaker 2>said that you actually could watch the numbers, the streaming

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<v Speaker 2>numbers jump when key moments were happening in the trial.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout the trial in May, so when Cassie testified, they said, boom,

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<v Speaker 2>they saw a spike in his music. When Kid Cutty testified,

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<v Speaker 2>spike probably in both of theiric music. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>completely tied to headlines and interest in people going on

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<v Speaker 2>and saying, let me take a listen to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we admit I've listened to Cassie songs in the

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<v Speaker 1>past two three months and I haven't listened to a

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie song in years probably, So whatever that is, it

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<v Speaker 1>just gets to you and you just automatically start listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I start listening to lyrics differently too, because now

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly they don't sound the same to me. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>been interesting. I think there's some sort of interest in

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<v Speaker 2>that too, Like what was he saying? Was he telling

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<v Speaker 2>us what he was doing? Was he was he acting

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<v Speaker 2>like he was someone else? Or is the person who

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<v Speaker 2>we're hearing all about behind the scenes from a sexual

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<v Speaker 2>standpoint not that different from the guy who's singing those lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds different. We had some stuff on. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sound like the Diddy. We no, no, we now.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, but I will say, but people are fickle. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't stick with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny enough.

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<v Speaker 2>This last month in June, you know, when the trial

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of waiting and interest it got a little

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<v Speaker 2>more boring with connecting the dots and people who were

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<v Speaker 2>testifying about things other than baby oil and freak offs.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a five to ten percent decrease in downloads

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<v Speaker 2>from the months before, so people were like, eh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>over it.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen though that there has he's taken a

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<v Speaker 1>hit necessarily like a backlash, you willga.

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<v Speaker 2>No, quite the opposite. No, not. In fact, if you

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<v Speaker 2>say they were a twenty percent jump in April and

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<v Speaker 2>May and they're only dropped five or ten percent in June,

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<v Speaker 2>they're still up from before.

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<v Speaker 1>Since his arrest, and says the Cassie video, even I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember doing stories about people running. They some brands

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<v Speaker 1>were running from him. But I don't remember listeners or

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<v Speaker 1>stories about his streaming or have huge dips or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't know if it ever happened with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean we've had this conversation plenty when other

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<v Speaker 2>artists have been charged with heinous crimes, from Michael Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>to who's the most recent, Smokey Robinson. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think people actually probably start listening more, they start getting fascinated,

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<v Speaker 2>they're reminded by it. And yes, some people, of course

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be turned off by it and never

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<v Speaker 2>listen to them again. But I don't think that's most people.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most people do the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do with that? And I'm doing We've

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<v Speaker 1>done it subconsciously. I don't even I'm looking a wow

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty percent jump. What are people thinking? Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about myself. I do the same damn thing. This

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<v Speaker 1>morning we were reporting on allegations against Smokey Robinson. We

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<v Speaker 1>played nothing but Smokey Robinson songs probably that morning just

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<v Speaker 1>cut like subconsciously, it just came on.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently we're just like everyone else, because it shows very

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<v Speaker 2>clearly that that is indeed what people do. It's true

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what, that's just I think human nature.

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<v Speaker 2>And what about did he sun putting out music?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it King Comb's King Kombs Never Stop and it

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<v Speaker 1>had the song? Did he free on it? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that could read. This is the timing and poor

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<v Speaker 1>taste and seeming to take advantage of a moment. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to put something out and express himself as

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<v Speaker 1>Dad's life is on the line. But yeah, that's out now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I did find it interesting that the project that King

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<v Speaker 2>Combs and Yay Kanye released together was released by do

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<v Speaker 2>you know this company? Goodfellas Entertainment. I just thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was oh so ironic given how they were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>convict Didy on racketeering and conspiracy charges normally reserved for

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<v Speaker 2>members of the mafia or mob. So just the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Goodfella's entertainment released that just wasn't lost on me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I could you piecing it all together? Well, folks, stay

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<v Speaker 1>with us. We got a couple more things to piece

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<v Speaker 1>together here, Sean John, You remember that clothing line. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be everywhere for a long time. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you one place you certainly won't find it.

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<v Speaker 1>When retailer says uh uh no more and reco what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly is that? And how has he now been saved

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<v Speaker 1>from losing his four hundred million dollars? All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about did he's music. We've talked about his

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<v Speaker 1>estimated worth. We've talked about streaming numbers. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>what he is losing, if you will. Robes, we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Sarrac and d Leon, his liquor companies. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he did. He's not involved with Sarac anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No. They He actually got into a legal dispute. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel like he was being fairly represented, and so

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<v Speaker 2>as a part of that legal dispute and was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the settlement, he gave over the rights to

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<v Speaker 2>both of those liquors. So they're still going strong, but

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<v Speaker 2>just zero affiliation with Ditty anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was everywhere promoting that for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and that thing took off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, allegations that he wasn't given the same support

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<v Speaker 2>as other celebrities and that he was only being used

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<v Speaker 2>basically to make an appearance of diversity versus actually making

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<v Speaker 2>an investment in diversity. So he was very upset about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it worked because I was all about the rock

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<v Speaker 1>locker and some of those flavors for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>He also has Sean John the clothing line. Now this

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Sean. This was an early one that people got

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<v Speaker 1>away from when the Cassie video came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I definitely stopped seeing that really very often, but

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<v Speaker 2>specifically Macy's. Yes, cut ties with him and just it basically,

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<v Speaker 2>what do they say, it's on pause? They didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>say it's over dormant. It's dormant that I used on pause.

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<v Speaker 2>But so perhaps they're hoping it could come back. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was all the rage in the ninety I just

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<v Speaker 2>was it the oughts? Is that what we call it?

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<v Speaker 2>The two thousands? Yeah, I'm trying at the aughts. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's where I saw so many Sean John

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<v Speaker 2>clothing everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It was everywhere, and I haven't seen it lately, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of going away. So he doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>throat music industry, he doesn't have a thriving liquor industry anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have a thriving clothing line anymore. So what

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<v Speaker 1>does did? He does? He is able to hold onto

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<v Speaker 1>his money. But again we keep saying Rico, Rico, Rico, Rico.

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<v Speaker 1>Racketeer influenced corrupt organizations is what that stands for. And

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<v Speaker 1>again it was specifically created to go after mob bosses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's particularly created so the guy at the bottom running

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<v Speaker 1>on the street doing the bidding of the guy at

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<v Speaker 1>the top, Well, the guy at the bottom isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>only one that's going to get in trouble. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy at the top. That is essentially what RICO is.

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<v Speaker 1>You're running an enterprise, okay, did he has not been

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<v Speaker 1>found guilty of running an enterprise and robes This was

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<v Speaker 1>everything because a big part of RICO, they have specific

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<v Speaker 1>laws attached to them that they forfeit your loss. Correct

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<v Speaker 1>that right can take your shit.

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<v Speaker 2>They can take it all because they say if it

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<v Speaker 2>was either used in the criminal process or whatever crimes

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<v Speaker 2>to your community, it was a part of that transportation, entertainment, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything was happening in any of those properties that

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<v Speaker 2>you owned, that they could then be seized. And also

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<v Speaker 2>if any of your profits that you gleaned from having

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<v Speaker 2>or been committing criminal acts, if you're using that to

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<v Speaker 2>purchase things, they can take that away from you as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know all, I only know this from watching

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<v Speaker 2>mob movies, and you know, the wives of like, all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, their homes are being that's accurate, taken away,

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<v Speaker 2>their cars are being taken there. They're trying to hide

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<v Speaker 2>their jewelry. This is what movie was that was it?

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<v Speaker 2>The Godfather trying to hide things that the government won't

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<v Speaker 2>take it. That's how I'm like, yeah, you're right, that

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<v Speaker 2>does happen.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're right, And I watch mob documentaries and that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how it goes down on those as well. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they will take everything. They're going to go after everything

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<v Speaker 1>with robes. This is interesting. Now they could go after

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<v Speaker 1>something of his that he used in prostitution. The law is,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't fly.

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<v Speaker 2>Them to him, but he flew Cassie and Jane on

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<v Speaker 2>those planes, which were a part of the prostitution.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he didn't get charged with sex trafficking, but.

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<v Speaker 1>That plane, Oh oh no, this doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't doesn't know it's only the male. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know for a prostitution they could because we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>how this goes. But there have been legal experts who

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<v Speaker 2>believe the prosecution is going to try and have his

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<v Speaker 2>past deeds that he admitted be considered in sentencing. So

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they could also consider past deeds that

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<v Speaker 2>he admitted, including domestic violence or any of the above,

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<v Speaker 2>if those happened in any of his properties, could they

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<v Speaker 2>then go after those properties?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it worth it to them at this point? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they think they might be seeking more justice, or they

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<v Speaker 1>might be saying, do we need to take another l

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<v Speaker 1>We've already stretched ourselves and see where God is? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do this again and get more egg

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<v Speaker 1>on our face? Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>We shall see, but I'm sure at the very least

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<v Speaker 2>it does look like from most financial experts, most legal

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<v Speaker 2>experts will say that not only did did he dodge

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<v Speaker 2>a huge basically a huge bullet in terms of his freedom,

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<v Speaker 2>but he also dodged a huge financial one as well.