Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky.
Speaker 2: I'm really sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait
Speaker 2: a minute, I said, I runs dress. P Hey boo,
Speaker 2: it's me Roz. I have got back. Gunner Death Wrench
Speaker 2: on the show today. Gunner, who you may know from
Speaker 2: Project Runway. He was on Project Runway All Stars. He
Speaker 2: has made costumes for some of the biggest names in showbiz,
Speaker 2: and he's also mega famous on TikTok Gunner's back. Gunner
Speaker 2: has also told me maybe the scariest story I've heard
Speaker 2: in my entire life. And if you haven't heard it,
Speaker 2: please do yourself a favor and go back and listen
Speaker 2: to when Gunner was on the show the first time.
Speaker 2: It was early on. It was originally on July eighteenth
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen. But hey, the story does not expire.
Speaker 2: It is still terrifying and we talk about it a
Speaker 2: lot today. So check that out. Hey, you know what
Speaker 2: else is going on in the news. You may have
Speaker 2: heard another one of my favorite guests of all time,
Speaker 2: Cassandra Peterson, has a new book that just came out
Speaker 2: and it arrived in the mail. I cannot wait to
Speaker 2: read it. It is called Yours Cruelly Alvirah Memoirs of
Speaker 2: the Mistress of the Dark. I can't wait. You also
Speaker 2: may have heard she's made headlines with it because she
Speaker 2: has come out about her relationship with a woman the
Speaker 2: past nineteen years. And I'm so excited for her, and ugh,
Speaker 2: she's just she's my idol. She is my number one idol,
Speaker 2: and I cannot believe that she has been on this podcast. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I thought in this intro today I would tell you
Speaker 2: guys about, you know, some of the hot topics in
Speaker 2: the paranormal world. I always love that when I'm reporting
Speaker 2: the news in terms of the paranormal, I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: someone's got to talk about it. Why not be me?
Speaker 2: Why not be us? I love this shit. So the
Speaker 2: first thing I wanted to talk about was Harry Enton
Speaker 2: from CNN has done some digging around about people's beliefs
Speaker 2: in the paranormal and what he has found is that
Speaker 2: forty six percent of Americans believe in ghosts today compared
Speaker 2: to eleven percent forty years ago. So it says Americans'
Speaker 2: beliefs in ghosts has skyrocketed four hundred percent since the
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies. I blame the exorcist. Well, I mean the
Speaker 2: Exorcist that was I think early mid seventies. It's probably
Speaker 2: almost fifty years ago. But still so many movies the
Speaker 2: past forty years have come out, and I think, I
Speaker 2: just think it's movies. I think movies have affected people's
Speaker 2: beliefs on this stuff. I think the Poltergeist was, you know,
Speaker 2: really big in the eighties. Of course, the Conjuring movies,
Speaker 2: movies like that framed this as based on a true story.
Speaker 2: So I think that that adds validity for a lot
Speaker 2: of people on this topic. And TV shows, paranormal TV
Speaker 2: shows as well, the paranormal To my knowledge, what I
Speaker 2: hear a lot from people about paranormal TV is probably
Speaker 2: like the first like big show that really talked about
Speaker 2: this stuff a lot was called In Search of which
Speaker 2: was hosted by Leonard Nieboy Leonard Nimoy from Star Trek,
Speaker 2: and that was late seventies, early eighties ish, and then
Speaker 2: of course Unsolved Mysteries and then just a slew once
Speaker 2: we hit the early two thousands. So many paranormal TV
Speaker 2: shows that have been on, you know, of course ghost
Speaker 2: Hunters and you know, Ghost Adventures and all these shows
Speaker 2: that have been on over the years. I think that
Speaker 2: that that's now in people's homes. It's like it's entertainment.
Speaker 2: It's just a part of life. So I think that
Speaker 2: it's that and I love to hear it. Hey, it
Speaker 2: keeps me in business. I'm always shocked when people tell
Speaker 2: me that they love listening to the show, but they
Speaker 2: don't believe in ghosts. You know that happened. People tell
Speaker 2: me that. I will have people, or sometimes I'll have
Speaker 2: couples tell me that they that one of them will
Speaker 2: be like, oh, we love your show. She believes in it,
Speaker 2: or he believes in it, or they believe it. I
Speaker 2: don't believe in it, but you know it's fun. Hey, listen,
Speaker 2: if I can entertain you guys, if you guys enjoy
Speaker 2: these stories that you hear on the show. I'm not
Speaker 2: here to tell you what's real and what's not, but
Speaker 2: you know it's real. So forty six percent of Americans
Speaker 2: believe in this shit. I'd be really curious to know
Speaker 2: what that is worldwide. I don't know, but you know,
Speaker 2: my favorite TV show of all time, Celebrity ghost Stories.
Speaker 2: They would always say at the beginning of the episode.
Speaker 2: Seventy five percent of Americans believe that there are events
Speaker 2: that take place that cannot be explained. Over half of
Speaker 2: these people believe they have experienced paranormal events themselves, So
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a lot of math going on here.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about any of that. But I'm
Speaker 2: happy to hear that people believe in this stuff. But
Speaker 2: also I'm fine with people not believing in this stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what I'm even saying here.
Speaker 2: I'm just reporting the hard hitting news. I am the
Speaker 2: Diane Sawyer of the paranormal world, after all, and I'm
Speaker 2: just here to do my job. Something helps. I saw
Speaker 2: that was posted on cheat cheat dot com. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's the original place where this was reported
Speaker 2: or not, but it says Jennifer Coolidge, who I love
Speaker 2: Jeffer Coolidge. Everyone loves Jennifer Coolidge. I mean, everyone loves
Speaker 2: Jennifer Coolidge. She's just the greatest. And to make her
Speaker 2: even better, says Jennifer, Coolidge revealed that she actually wants
Speaker 2: to see a ghost in her house, and apparently her
Speaker 2: house in New Orleans is haunted. Since two thousand and five,
Speaker 2: she has lived half the year in New Orleans or
Speaker 2: New Orleans. The house was built in eighteen sixty seven
Speaker 2: in the Lower Garden district. It is a classic Greek
Speaker 2: revival with iconic columns and heavy cast iron gate. Sophia
Speaker 2: Coppola's movie The Beguiled filmed most of the interior shots
Speaker 2: at Coolidge's house, says. Guests have reported that her house
Speaker 2: is haunted her White Lotus co star Connie Britton, who
Speaker 2: I love White Lotus and I love Connie Britain, says.
Speaker 2: She has described a time that she visited on a
Speaker 2: night when Coolidge said that these spirits were strong. I'm
Speaker 2: just imagining Jennifer Coolidge telling Connie Britain they're having a
Speaker 2: little slumber party, and I can just picture Jennifer Coolidge,
Speaker 2: the spirits are strong here tonight be careful, Connie, good night.
Speaker 2: I'm not good at impressions, says. Though she never saw
Speaker 2: a ghost, Britain admitted that the house felt haunted. Wait
Speaker 2: a minute, that reminds me, Actually, Connie Britton. One time
Speaker 2: I stumbled upon Wait, I'm gonna google this right now,
Speaker 2: because Connie Brittain had a ghost story number of years
Speaker 2: ago that happened in New Orleans. I thought, one second,
Speaker 2: let's see here, ps if you ever get to hang
Speaker 2: out with Connie Britton, I highly recommend doing it if
Speaker 2: you get the opportunity, because I did it one time
Speaker 2: with my best friend Sam Pancake, who is friends with her,
Speaker 2: and she is a delight here. It is okay wait.
Speaker 2: This is on Express dot co dot UK. She was
Speaker 2: shooting a film in New Orleans. This is in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: She rented a house which turned out to be haunted.
Speaker 2: She explains, we would sort of hear things bumping around.
Speaker 2: One night, I woke up and I thought I heard
Speaker 2: my son in the other room. I started to go
Speaker 2: back to sleep, and I just jolted up and I
Speaker 2: got out of my room and my friend was carrying
Speaker 2: my son up the stairs with him. He was screaming
Speaker 2: and crying, and I'm like, what's going on? And he says,
Speaker 2: I don't want to go back in there. I don't
Speaker 2: want to see those boys in my room. I was
Speaker 2: freaking out. But the scariest part about it was the
Speaker 2: way my son was looking at me. His eyes were
Speaker 2: just wide, and he was like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: go back in there with those boys. Get those boys out,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, it's okay. Meanwhile, I'm shaking. Of course,
Speaker 2: I did not sleep the rest of the night. My
Speaker 2: son did and he ended up being fine, and we
Speaker 2: ended up staying who are the boys? Okay? Anyway, back
Speaker 2: to this story from Jennifer Coolidge's Haunted House, Superstore, actors
Speaker 2: Nico Santo's I know, Nico Santo's and Ben Feldman had
Speaker 2: another story. You can't use the downstairs bathroom be because
Speaker 2: the ghost of a little girl is in there, so
Speaker 2: you have to go upstairs to the bathroom next to
Speaker 2: the room for her kimonos, Feldman said. Coolidge says she
Speaker 2: frequently hears stories like this one after people visit her home,
Speaker 2: and it says that she has said, I've heard people say, oh,
Speaker 2: there was an old sea captain sitting at the piano,
Speaker 2: and I've had people say there was a little girl
Speaker 2: bouncing a ball down the stairs. Though Coolidge says she
Speaker 2: feels a presence in her house, she's not sure it's
Speaker 2: a full ghost. I've lived there for fifteen years or something,
Speaker 2: and I've never seen a ghost in the house. It
Speaker 2: has a presence, the house has a feeling in it,
Speaker 2: but I've never seen one, but she wishes she had
Speaker 2: seen one. It says every year she hosts a giant
Speaker 2: Halloween party. Oh my god, that is so lovely. She
Speaker 2: has the ghost of an old sea captain and a
Speaker 2: little girl in her house in New Orleans obsessed. Okay,
Speaker 2: so guys, I can't wait to share my upcoming episodes
Speaker 2: with you all. I do have Michelle Bell and coming back,
Speaker 2: who I reference in today's episode. I also have an
Speaker 2: exciting one where I'm gonna be talking about UFOs with
Speaker 2: somebody from a new UFO TV show you may have
Speaker 2: heard about. I've got a TV star coming up. I've
Speaker 2: got listener episodes coming up. Of course, if you want
Speaker 2: to be on a listener episode, please send me an
Speaker 2: email to ghosted by rosatgmail dot com with the subject
Speaker 2: line listener episode and also on Patreon this week Patreon
Speaker 2: dot com slash rosdres fales. I thought I would show
Speaker 2: you my crystal collection and tell you my thoughts on
Speaker 2: crystals because I also talk about crystals today with Gunner
Speaker 2: death Ridge. If you want to hear a little bit
Speaker 2: more from my conversation with Gunner good Patron dot com
Speaker 2: slash rosdres fales on my second tier this week, I
Speaker 2: asked him about various paranormal phenomenas, including the Mothman and
Speaker 2: past lives, of which he has a lot to say about,
Speaker 2: and you know that kind of stuff, So go check
Speaker 2: it out. All right, here's me talking again with my
Speaker 2: friend Gunner death Ridge, on with the show. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I am joined by return guest Gunner death Ridge. Hello,
Speaker 2: Hello world, how are you? I'm so good. I'm so
Speaker 2: happy that you've you have the time to come talk
Speaker 2: to me because you are so busy and I don't
Speaker 2: even know if you were I don't even know if
Speaker 2: TikTok was out the last time you were here.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't either, but I will always
Speaker 1: take a moment out of my day for you.
Speaker 2: Ah, thank you. You're now this a giant TikTok star
Speaker 2: on top of all the other things that you do,
Speaker 2: and I'm so happy to see it.
Speaker 1: I'm now the epitome of bless this mess, everyone's favorite
Speaker 1: Southern staying.
Speaker 2: I you know what I was thinking as I watch
Speaker 2: your videos. You always have the crystals, are you? Are
Speaker 2: you like a crystal? Are you a crystal quick crystal witch?
Speaker 1: You know I have to say, I'm I do love them.
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of them. It started with not
Speaker 1: wanting to pin my stuff down and the most like
Speaker 1: tangible thing for me at the moment where all these
Speaker 1: crystals that we had, I don't want a ton of
Speaker 1: thought into the full energy that crystals have. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to like take away from anyone else's beliefs in that,
Speaker 1: but like for me personally, I just find them really
Speaker 1: aesthetically pleasing, uh huh, and they do their jobs, so
Speaker 1: it's just an easy thing to keep around, right.
Speaker 2: So is that how it started? Like you, you just
Speaker 2: thought they looked pretty, so you bought a few, and
Speaker 2: then yeah, well we had.
Speaker 1: A few laying around. But I mean yeah, because when
Speaker 1: I started out, I was like, well, I guess I
Speaker 1: should paint my nails. And then I was like, well
Speaker 1: I guess I should start wearing rings, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, well, let's just use crystals the way I'm
Speaker 1: down with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my thing with crystals, I mean, I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not like a hundred percent convinced that a crystal has
Speaker 2: like all this power, you know, I personally don't know
Speaker 2: that I believe that. But whenever somebody tells me that
Speaker 2: a crystal will keep away demons or a crystal will
Speaker 2: make me more motivated or I don't know anything. I'm like, okay, well, okay,
Speaker 2: you sold me. You know, I'll buy it.
Speaker 1: The idea of it is really nice, right, Like I
Speaker 1: love it. I'm like, yes, this is a fixed all
Speaker 1: for me. I don't I think in my I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is a really sweet gesture and if it happens, amazing,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to count it out. But I'm also
Speaker 1: not going to like put all my eggs in the
Speaker 1: basket of hoping that crystal can get rid of my demons.
Speaker 2: Oh I know. Do you have people that comment on
Speaker 2: your videos and are like, oh you use that crystal
Speaker 2: for this reason.
Speaker 1: Or constantly actually like my favorite comment and I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but on YouTube it's become a thing. People
Speaker 1: will literally in all caps just comment crystal witch, which
Speaker 1: I always read with my Southern accent and it makes
Speaker 1: me laugh out loud. But yes, there are definitely the
Speaker 1: people that identify the crystals and they're like, are you
Speaker 1: are you charging your fabric? And I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm just cutting it right.
Speaker 2: Now, charging your fabric. Oh my god. See that's something
Speaker 2: that you could an element you could add to it
Speaker 2: is saying like, this dress was supercharged with amethyst, and
Speaker 2: because of that, it gives you protection and power and strength.
Speaker 1: You know what, Maybe it does.
Speaker 2: That's the right.
Speaker 1: Maybe that is a good selling point.
Speaker 2: Maybe the crystals help with the views and the success
Speaker 2: of your videos. Who knows.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not counting anything else.
Speaker 2: Poor crystals. I sit here and I kind of joke
Speaker 2: about them, but they're probably the reason that I have
Speaker 2: anything good in my life. I love them. I have
Speaker 2: so many. I have probably fifty crystals around this house,
Speaker 2: but I at the same time don't really. Most of
Speaker 2: it is because I think they're pretty.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm the same exact way. I actually just had
Speaker 1: this conversation on my vacation with my best friend and
Speaker 1: we were gathering them on the beach like beachcombing, and
Speaker 1: we were both just like, you think this is real?
Speaker 1: And she was like, I don't know, but we should
Speaker 1: take some home anyway. Yeah, what's the hurt? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: what damage does it?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 1: None? They're beautiful and if they weren't great, and if
Speaker 1: they don't, they'll weigh down My patterns all.
Speaker 2: The same exactly, And they're pretty and they're pretty well
Speaker 2: you have. I've told me maybe my favorite ghost story
Speaker 2: that I've ever heard on this podcast. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't like to ever. That's why I say maybe my favorite,
Speaker 2: because I never want I like every ghost story that's
Speaker 2: on this show. But every time I do interviews promoting
Speaker 2: this show, people say they asked me, what's your favorite?
Speaker 2: What's the best ghost story you've ever heard? Like which
Speaker 2: episode should somebody listen to for the first time if
Speaker 2: they've never heard the show? And I always tell them
Speaker 2: your episode because mainly because of the dream story, that's
Speaker 2: the one in particular that has messed me up for
Speaker 2: the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: So that's been like a long time ago. Have you
Speaker 1: had anybody else have similar I mean, you've talked to
Speaker 1: quite a few people since that conversation, Like, has anyone
Speaker 1: else experienced anything else like that?
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I brought it up to somebody that I
Speaker 2: idolize who Her name is Michelle Bellanjay and she is
Speaker 2: a world renowned occult expert, and she's also an incredible
Speaker 2: psychic medium, and she wears a lot of hats, and
Speaker 2: she's actually about to be on this podcast either next
Speaker 2: week or in a couple weeks. A couple weeks she's
Speaker 2: on anyway, she I go to her to answer every
Speaker 2: question I have because somehow she knows about at least
Speaker 2: she knows about it. You know, who knows the answers
Speaker 2: to any of this stuff. But I told her that
Speaker 2: story and she goes, oh, yeah, it's called psychic dream walking.
Speaker 2: I read a book about it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like just casually a thing like that,
Speaker 1: psychic dream walking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well I did some more researching on this,
Speaker 2: and again, if people want to know even more, you
Speaker 2: can look up Michelle Bellanjay's book about psychic dream walking.
Speaker 2: It's on her website Michelle Bellanjay dot com. But okay,
Speaker 2: so I went to this website called Psychicgurus dot org
Speaker 2: and they talk about out how to enter someone's dream
Speaker 2: through dream walking.
Speaker 1: Should I read you this? There's stuffs. I have chills. Yes,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to know.
Speaker 2: So what I understand about this psychic dream walking thing
Speaker 2: is that it can be a beautiful thing. You know,
Speaker 2: when I think about if you're like in a long
Speaker 2: distance ninety day fiance kind of relationship and you want
Speaker 2: to be with your person, if you follow these steps,
Speaker 2: I think you can kind of meet each other in
Speaker 2: your dreams and do whatever it is that you need
Speaker 2: to do in your dreams together.
Speaker 1: That's a really wild way to use that.
Speaker 2: Actually, well, I think that's ideally what is supposed to happen,
Speaker 2: because from my understanding, the way that it works, or
Speaker 2: the believed way that it's supposed to work, is that
Speaker 2: both people are supposed to be consenting. So you're supposed
Speaker 2: to But that's when people all also do it in
Speaker 2: a malevolent way, and they prey on people, and they
Speaker 2: try to get in your dreams for whatever reason, and
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's to brainwash you, or you know,
Speaker 2: some somehow get in your brain, you know, get in
Speaker 2: your dreams, get in your thoughts. Sometimes I think it's
Speaker 2: even like to hook up with you, you know, like
Speaker 2: in your dreams. Like I think people do it for
Speaker 2: a lot of creepy reasons. But you can also shield
Speaker 2: yourself from it as well.
Speaker 1: All share that part. What's that I said? That's really
Speaker 1: the important part, right is how do you Because that
Speaker 1: one really messed with me for a little while.
Speaker 2: It messes with me. You telling me that story has
Speaker 2: messed with me, and it's one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: I am like, I need to know about this, and
Speaker 2: I now I think so much of it is putting
Speaker 2: up a wall. I mean, you obviously didn't know about
Speaker 2: this phenomenon when it happened to you. I baby, yeah,
Speaker 2: And so I think most people just don't think about
Speaker 2: psychic attacks or things like that, and so they don't
Speaker 2: know how to put up a wall.
Speaker 1: And you know, this makes me think of that the
Speaker 1: scene and the Craft where they're literally taunting Sarah in
Speaker 1: her in her dreams and she can't tell what's a
Speaker 1: dream and what's not. So like for me, that is
Speaker 1: like the worst case scenario of that happening.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean I at this point, anyone listening to this,
Speaker 2: if you think you're gonna be entering my dreams, you're not.
Speaker 2: Don't even try. I have I have a very, I
Speaker 2: have crystals, I have a bouncer at the door. Your
Speaker 2: name is not on the list unless you're Gunnar. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know who this is. But this
Speaker 2: guy Damiano, who's the lead singer of this band called
Speaker 2: monosc He's he's on the list.
Speaker 1: He's on the list. All I know he I followed
Speaker 1: him on Instagram for so long and then when they
Speaker 1: went on your own vision. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's who this is. And then it just you know,
Speaker 1: spiraled for me. So I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's hot. And then you hear the
Speaker 2: singing and you're like, okay this and then you see
Speaker 2: the performance and it's a whole different story. So he
Speaker 2: could be on the list anyone else. Sorry, you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to enter my dreams. Okay, so let me can
Speaker 2: I read you how to do this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: According to psycha Gurus dot org. Okay, so there's five steps.
Speaker 2: Step one, prepare properly. First, you need to state a
Speaker 2: clear purpose. This can be through a planning. This could
Speaker 2: be through planning a ritual to go along with your attempt,
Speaker 2: or by meditating and focusing the energy needed. A clear
Speaker 2: understanding and focus will help you immensely in accomplishing your goals.
Speaker 2: Seek out a sacred space to go through the process uninterrupted. So,
Speaker 2: I mean it's very much a meditative kind of a thing.
Speaker 2: It's like meditating and syncing up with somebody else's kind
Speaker 2: of the key to Oh totally all of this stuff.
Speaker 2: All of this stuff is like, you know, setting intentions
Speaker 2: and also you know, I think it's similarly how you
Speaker 2: shield stuff like this. I think. Okay, So step two
Speaker 2: is set your thoughts on your target. Oh I don't
Speaker 2: like it. See when when you say on your target
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 1: Like takes her to a new level.
Speaker 2: I know. Okay, So let the person whose dreams you
Speaker 2: are trying to occupy enter your thoughts. Remember that your
Speaker 2: efforts will have a much higher chance of success if
Speaker 2: they are in on this plan. If you're able to
Speaker 2: synchronize the timing, there will be a level of focus
Speaker 2: and increased meaning. This will allow you to fact check
Speaker 2: after the process is over. If you don't remember it,
Speaker 2: then you have a lot more practice to do so. Again, Like,
Speaker 2: I think it's usually consensual. So you, like, you and
Speaker 2: your lover, your friend or whatever, you do this and
Speaker 2: then you check in later and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: that was crazy, you know what I mean? Like, I
Speaker 2: think it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're definitely supposed to like resonate together, I think,
Speaker 1: But like.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the kind of thing that you're
Speaker 2: supposed to share on a ghost podcast and be like
Speaker 2: it was the scariest thing ever. It's supposed to be, Like,
Speaker 2: wasn't that beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I mean now that we know
Speaker 1: what it is, maybe there will be a little new
Speaker 1: generation of ghost babies out there and that are having
Speaker 1: fun experiences with it, because you can definitely have fun
Speaker 1: with this if you could master that, right right, Imagine
Speaker 1: the Shenanigans.
Speaker 2: Oh, imagine the Shenanigans. I know. And it's not unlike
Speaker 2: astral projection. Do you know about that?
Speaker 1: I do, but like to be honest with you, if
Speaker 1: I start really breaking down when it is like, my
Speaker 1: brain disassociates a little bit and I'm like, I'll just
Speaker 1: think about that later. Yeah, it's so complicated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's and I think that learning how to
Speaker 2: do it is again kind of similar to this. U.
Speaker 2: I don't know, this is just slightly different. Okay. So
Speaker 2: then you meditate on your target Okay, kind of the
Speaker 2: same sort of thing. Meditate with their face. Meditate with
Speaker 2: their face using a photo in your mind's eye. Okay,
Speaker 2: put yourself in their point of view and think about
Speaker 2: their feelings without imposing your own thoughts. Align yourself with
Speaker 2: the energy they have so they can build a psychic bridge. Okay.
Speaker 2: Number four, drift off without losing your thoughts on them,
Speaker 2: allow yourself to fall into sleep, holding onto the sensation
Speaker 2: of being your target person. Repeat affirmations like I am
Speaker 2: crossing into his or her dreams, I am about to fall,
Speaker 2: I'm about to enter his, her, or their dreams. Number five,
Speaker 2: practice lucid dreaming. Lucid dreaming allows you to be aware
Speaker 2: that you are dreaming. When you do this in your dreams,
Speaker 2: then you are able to consciously enter another person's dream
Speaker 2: by saying here's her name or focusing on a familiar
Speaker 2: portal that holds meaning to them, you can enter their dreams.
Speaker 2: All right, that's what it says.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love to lucid dreams. So I feel
Speaker 1: like that's the only step that I'm comfortable with in
Speaker 1: that I'm more of a victim than I am, like
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur in the dream sharing experience.
Speaker 2: Right now, Oh my god, I'm sorry. Am I bringing
Speaker 2: up Like is this traumatic to bring up?
Speaker 1: No? No, but my brain everything else minus the lucid
Speaker 1: dream of my brain's like, we'll talk about that. We'll
Speaker 1: get to that later.
Speaker 2: I know. I know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun though, like to just imagine it.
Speaker 2: It's fun to think about. But I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: interested in trying it.
Speaker 1: I mean, dreams are weird anyway, because it's this kind
Speaker 1: of space where you slip away for a second. You
Speaker 1: don't but you do. Like I had my first like
Speaker 1: what I would consider a sleep paralysis recently, which I
Speaker 1: didn't love. It was very scary, But it wasn't like
Speaker 1: there wasn't like a little girl in the corner or anything.
Speaker 1: I just was awake and I couldn't move and it
Speaker 1: was very frightening. And so I think dreams are just
Speaker 1: like I think I'm susceptible to it. Like I think
Speaker 1: if I were to focus on this, I could probably
Speaker 1: accomplish this. Oh I'm sure, Like obviously my brain is
Speaker 1: already like kind of willing to go there. I think
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes I should just let it.
Speaker 2: Well, So when you had sleep paralysis, did it feel
Speaker 2: like a paranormal thing to you in any other sense,
Speaker 2: like any did you have any feelings that felt like, ooh,
Speaker 2: there's another presence here.
Speaker 1: Kind of you know, it was weird. It was the
Speaker 1: most ordinary day. I was taking a nap on my couch,
Speaker 1: which I like never get a chance to do. And
Speaker 1: I mean when I don't know if I felt like
Speaker 1: there was someone in the room, but I definitely felt
Speaker 1: like there was something not letting me wake up, you know,
Speaker 1: like it was weird because I didn't really I feel
Speaker 1: like there was somebody else in the room. I just
Speaker 1: like it felt very unnatural that I could not wake up,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is not right, and so
Speaker 1: like it was like an instant panic thing. So it
Speaker 1: kind of set the tone for the whole thing really poorly. Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was just it was a very
Speaker 1: strange feeling, I think because it felt so physical and
Speaker 1: less mental, if that makes sense. Like physically I could
Speaker 1: not wake up, but mentally I was awake. So it
Speaker 1: was this like weird thing where my brain and my
Speaker 1: body were separate for a moment. Is what it felt
Speaker 1: like to me.
Speaker 2: Oh, were you sleeping on your back or your stomach?
Speaker 1: I was on my back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how that will do it.
Speaker 1: My god. Well, so now I'm like, well, is that
Speaker 1: like anatomically something that happens or is that like you know,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people experience sleep proassis, even
Speaker 1: if they don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: Oh totally. But every time I ask people, I say,
Speaker 2: stomach are back, and most of the time they say
Speaker 2: they sleep on their back. Okay, So, Gunner, has anything
Speaker 2: else paranormal happened to you since we last spoke, because
Speaker 2: I know you're haunted. Your apartment is slightly haunted, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Weird things definitely happen in here. I noticed it with
Speaker 1: our cats a lot. But so since we have last chat,
Speaker 1: my grandmother, who I was very close with, has crossed
Speaker 1: over into some realm. I don't know if she's crossed
Speaker 1: over into her final realm or anything. But one thing
Speaker 1: that we had recently watched the documentary Surviving Death and
Speaker 1: on Netflix, right, yes, And like I don't you know,
Speaker 1: a documentary can be spun any kind of direction, like
Speaker 1: they can kind of cite it anyway. But I felt
Speaker 1: like it was a really kind of like transparent portrayal
Speaker 1: of what people experience. Rather than it being like trying
Speaker 1: to persuade you. It was kind of just like, this
Speaker 1: is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yes, That's what I'm always trying to do too. It's
Speaker 2: just like your stories, here's what people have to say.
Speaker 2: You make up on your own terms, what is real
Speaker 2: and what isn't and whatever.
Speaker 1: So I spent a lot of the documentary. It focused
Speaker 1: on the medium ship and you know, that is something
Speaker 1: that I've never I've never talked to a medium. I've
Speaker 1: never like had it an interaction bit to be honest,
Speaker 1: I've never had anybody crossover that I was close with
Speaker 1: until recently with my grandmother. So that's definitely something that
Speaker 1: they always talk about the documentary. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: the first like eighteen months is when they're trying to
Speaker 1: show you signs and they're trying to like show their presence.
Speaker 1: So I've been really really kind of keeping an eye
Speaker 1: out for things, and there have been some strange things
Speaker 1: like I just notice that my cats will be weird,
Speaker 1: like playing like almost like they're on their hind legs,
Speaker 1: like at something in the corner, and then like the
Speaker 1: lights will start blinking. But then I ask for the sign.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, if it's you, like, do it again,
Speaker 1: like I'm not afraid do it again, and then I
Speaker 1: won't get it. So I'm like Grass being at Straws
Speaker 1: here because I'd love to have some kind of interaction
Speaker 1: because I'm not afraid to have that interaction, especially if
Speaker 1: it's someone like her that I trust like with everything,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's like been the biggest thing is
Speaker 1: I'm searching for a sign right now, is like how
Speaker 1: do I kind of get this presence to kind of
Speaker 1: make its way into my life? And like how do
Speaker 1: I open the door for that? And So I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting that you're about to talk to a medium
Speaker 1: because that's I think an adventure. I'm about to start
Speaker 1: exploring myself.
Speaker 2: Also, Oh, absolutely you should if that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you have do you have an understanding
Speaker 2: based on you know, watching that documentary or just in
Speaker 2: general of what you think how you think that might work,
Speaker 2: because like sometimes, of course I don't. I don't know
Speaker 2: how any of this stuff works, but.
Speaker 1: I I believe it. Do I believe what medium shit?
Speaker 2: I do? I just I think I think they're just
Speaker 2: it's like Wi Fi or something like. They have to
Speaker 2: have a strong connection, and I think sometimes it's just
Speaker 2: not there, but sometimes I think it can be. I've
Speaker 2: talked to a lot of people that have been to
Speaker 2: the Hollywood medium Tyler Henry. I've talked to people that
Speaker 2: have been to the Long Island Medium, and they're like,
Speaker 2: she got me, she got me good.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what my grandmother lived and breathed for.
Speaker 1: Teresa Caputo, Oh, my god, reach out to her.
Speaker 2: If she were.
Speaker 1: Gonna come to anybody, it would be Teresa Caputo.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that has to happen.
Speaker 1: Do you think she would answer me? Like, I don't
Speaker 1: ours I would honestly pay whatever, Like I mean, I
Speaker 1: do have an understanding of what the process is like.
Speaker 1: And I also very much so understand that there's a
Speaker 1: world where there is no connection that I can make there.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like kind of a fun thing
Speaker 1: where it's like I I think that if she were
Speaker 1: to come through for anyone, it would really be there's
Speaker 1: a kabudo.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, but you know, I wonder so like you know,
Speaker 2: you see a little sign and then you want it
Speaker 2: to happen again. That's when it's like, I don't know how.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that works. Like I wonder if
Speaker 2: it's like I think some people believe it has to
Speaker 2: do with how how much strength they have, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, Like, oh I can I
Speaker 2: just pictured myself being in spirit and being like okay,
Speaker 2: I just like move something and then you're like do
Speaker 2: it again. You're like, oh I can't. I can only
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I mean, I choo. It's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, it is one of those things where it's
Speaker 1: like I think you there's no scientific proof, which I
Speaker 1: think is what so many people require to really like
Speaker 1: delve into something. Yeah, but I mean I I am
Speaker 1: a whimsical enough human being to where I think I
Speaker 1: could have fun with it and not have expectations. And
Speaker 1: if I get something great that comes out of it,
Speaker 1: then like amazing, and like I'll cling to that forever.
Speaker 1: But I'm also like thankfully and I like to feel
Speaker 1: this way about every relationship in my life. Like I
Speaker 1: say what I'm feeling and what I'm thinking when i'm
Speaker 1: thinking it. So there's really nothing unsaid with me. And
Speaker 1: so if I get something from somebody that's crossed over
Speaker 1: that I really cared about, I would like to think
Speaker 1: that there's nothing that's trying to validate our relationships. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of trying to say, hey, you know, And
Speaker 1: so for me, it would just kind of be like
Speaker 1: this like fun little little gift. I mean, I'd probably
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, get really upset in a
Speaker 1: good way. Yeah, I would definitely give the reaction that
Speaker 1: they're looking for if I got something, but I don't
Speaker 1: have expectations, but I want I'm also just curious to.
Speaker 2: Know, you know, totally. Yeah, I mean being open to it,
Speaker 2: I think is probably a good thing. But again, not
Speaker 2: having expectation it is probably really good. I've heard here's
Speaker 2: one thing that I tend to believe, but my mind
Speaker 2: is always open to other ideas. But I've heard from
Speaker 2: a few psychics that like the difference between spirit or
Speaker 2: I mean, this is all a matter of semantics, but
Speaker 2: like you know, there's sometimes people pass and they pass
Speaker 2: at peace, and they go on to wherever they go
Speaker 2: on to next, and they have the power to then
Speaker 2: visit at will or who knows how it works, but
Speaker 2: they can come back, Whereas a ghost is somebody that
Speaker 2: didn't die at peace, at peace and they're stuck and
Speaker 2: they're like lingering around, you know.
Speaker 1: And I mean, you almost can't believe in one without
Speaker 1: the other though.
Speaker 2: Right right in a way, I mean, I feel that
Speaker 2: most ghost stories that I hear, when people get down
Speaker 2: to the bottom of why they think that that why
Speaker 2: they think there's a ghost there, and who they think
Speaker 2: it is, a lot of times it's somebody died tragically,
Speaker 2: it's somebody loved this house and they can't leave it
Speaker 2: and they don't want to see anyone remodel it, or
Speaker 2: you know, it's like some kind of not so happy thing,
Speaker 2: Whereas I think a lot of times people just pass
Speaker 2: and there they're at peace with it, and I think
Speaker 2: it's a good thing that they're not lingering around.
Speaker 1: I mean, I completely agree with that, because I think that, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I would hate to think that people that
Speaker 1: I cared about were lingering around sometimes. I've been thinking
Speaker 1: about the concept of COVID lately and how many people
Speaker 1: have passed, Like, is there like an influx? Is there
Speaker 1: like a waiting room where they're all like, you know,
Speaker 1: backed up trying to figure out where people go right now?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, are you about to.
Speaker 1: Get flooded with emails from people? You know, like it's
Speaker 1: the world is going through this kind of like mass
Speaker 1: It's a mass death right now. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that I think are having this kind of
Speaker 1: inner thought in are questioning, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, my grandfather died a couple months ago and
Speaker 2: he I mean, my family like believes in this stuff,
Speaker 2: and we feel like we've noticed a few signs, just
Speaker 2: like a couple of things that are just sort of hey,
Speaker 2: I'm good, kind of a you know, a little thing.
Speaker 2: I think at his funeral there was something happened in
Speaker 2: the sky that was pretty incredible. I wasn't there. I
Speaker 2: can't remember what they told me, but some kind of
Speaker 2: rainbow sprouted or something right away or stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and I had like a moment this movie that I'm
Speaker 2: going to be in that's like kind of similar storyline
Speaker 2: to him in some ways. It like finally was released,
Speaker 2: like on the day that the day he died, like
Speaker 2: the Deadline article came out about it, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: and we shot this into twenty eighteen, and so I
Speaker 2: was kind of like, I'm taking that as a sign.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you there are definitely signs when
Speaker 1: you look for them, even if like we're self fulfilling them,
Speaker 1: I still feel like they're there. I mean, and that
Speaker 1: is the human experience, right, It's like, is this real
Speaker 1: or is it me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or is it both?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all it's all a good thing. Wait, So,
Speaker 2: but I want to hear more about this haunted apartment
Speaker 2: of yours because last time you told me that the
Speaker 2: TV channel changes.
Speaker 1: Still does kind of still does kind of lately I've
Speaker 1: been having the mystery of flickering lights that kind of
Speaker 1: follow me from room to room, Like, for instance, the
Speaker 1: one in my bedroom has been flickering, so I'd turn
Speaker 1: it off and i'd walk into my living room in
Speaker 1: one of the ones in my living room would be flickering.
Speaker 1: So that's when I was like being followed. And I
Speaker 1: feel like that was like, maybe this is my grandmother,
Speaker 1: because that's been a very recent thing that's happened. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and so like, and it's not like that, it's just weird.
Speaker 1: I watch them kind of dance around the apartment like
Speaker 1: Stranger Things style sometimes, but it's like fleeting. It's not
Speaker 1: like an ongoing like one on a rider, like banging
Speaker 1: on the walls with paint and like you know, Christmas light.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like casual. I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: weird sometimes, you just know. And like lately I just
Speaker 1: kind of know the doors be slamming, like little things
Speaker 1: like that, just odd little things enough to where I
Speaker 1: know that this is not a place where we're alone
Speaker 1: in it. I mean, this building has been here. It's
Speaker 1: one of the first buildings on Franklin Avenue, which is
Speaker 1: like a really old road in.
Speaker 2: La No Docks yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not because I'm not going to you know,
Speaker 1: be here that long. But it's just a really old building.
Speaker 1: So it's just I know that it's definitely haunted. Like
Speaker 1: even my next door neighbors talk about it.
Speaker 2: Well, all of Hollywood is haunted, and specifically like Hollywood
Speaker 2: Boulevard area, like the you know, strip area or whatever
Speaker 2: of Hollywood Boulevard is so haunted. I was actually, I
Speaker 2: mean I know about probably twenty haunted places down there.
Speaker 2: But then I recently saw the TV show Ghost Adventures
Speaker 2: went to Hollywood Toy and Costume. Do you know that place?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, I feel like, yes, that's that
Speaker 2: to me is drag Queen needs a prop and the
Speaker 2: gig is in two hours. It's like, uh, you got
Speaker 2: to run to go get a fake cigar or something like.
Speaker 2: It's like they've got they've got tons of little props
Speaker 2: and oh I need a fake mustache. We got to
Speaker 2: run down to Hollywood Toy and Costume and that place
Speaker 2: is like super haunted and they've caught things on camera.
Speaker 1: You know. I think that in those places too, when
Speaker 1: there's actual camera footage, it's really crazy to see because
Speaker 1: it's like you do see stuff on camera?
Speaker 2: Would you set up cameras in your place? Oh god,
Speaker 2: I don't know, because what if you do see something
Speaker 2: and you live there.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing is, I don't think I would be
Speaker 1: able to stay, you know, like if I saw something
Speaker 1: like actually moving around in here, like, no, thank you.
Speaker 2: Isn't your closet creepy? Yes?
Speaker 1: It sure is. I that light is on and off
Speaker 1: at its leisure all the time in my closet, and
Speaker 1: it's you got to pull the string to do it. Actually,
Speaker 1: like the other night when I was sleeping, it was
Speaker 1: like maybe two or three am. I had just gone
Speaker 1: to bed after drinking, so you know, you wake up
Speaker 1: and you're thirsty in the middle of the night. But
Speaker 1: as I look up, I heard the close heard the
Speaker 1: light click in the closet and turn on, and I
Speaker 1: was like, not right now, bitch, No, Like wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you handle it. Yeah, Like you know, like the string
Speaker 1: you hear you hear the string light that in the
Speaker 1: light goes on.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, So you you have like one of
Speaker 2: those long like a long string that somebody pulls. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so someone not of this world pulls that thing down
Speaker 2: and it turns on.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't.
Speaker 2: I didn't do it, Gunnar. You this is what happens
Speaker 2: when you have the scariest dream ghost story of all
Speaker 2: time that something like that is no longer the like,
Speaker 2: that's like one of the scariest things I can think.
Speaker 2: Really the way you nonchalantly, I'm like, yeah, I just
Speaker 2: hear it turn on. That is so scary. That would
Speaker 2: take fource. That's not like a glitch.
Speaker 1: But I mean, don't I think moving electricity also takes force. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: like insane things. I actually like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: tell this is not my story, but I was kind
Speaker 1: of just having I just went on vacation with my
Speaker 1: best friend and so she's from the Northwest and she
Speaker 1: has one of the scarier like ghost stories from her
Speaker 1: mom that I had personally heard about a very famous
Speaker 1: boat captain from the eighteen hundreds that was assassinated on
Speaker 1: this island up there. It's like a very scariest story.
Speaker 1: But ever since then, I've kind of been thinking because
Speaker 1: they caught something on camera, like on a polaroid camera,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, what would I capture on camera
Speaker 1: in my apartment.
Speaker 2: It's worth a try. Here's what you need to do.
Speaker 2: You need to find out when Teresa Kaputo is in LA,
Speaker 2: have her come over to your home, figure out who's
Speaker 2: in there, and then have her also radio.
Speaker 1: I wonder what a reading with Teresa Kapudo cost. I
Speaker 1: really don't know, but I certainly have imagine it's cheap.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. But she does have a podcast, and
Speaker 2: she has people call her and she has guests on
Speaker 2: and she could absolutely read you.
Speaker 1: I wonder how famous I have to be to get
Speaker 1: her to let me on her podcast.
Speaker 2: You're famous enough?
Speaker 1: I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: Wait. Can I read you a story somebody sent me?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, this one comes from Alisa, And have you seen
Speaker 2: Candy Man.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I don't do wealth scary movies, so
Speaker 1: like all kind of halfway watch them and like work,
Speaker 1: you know, so I don't have to like really get scared.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, is this gonna scay if I tell you
Speaker 2: a scary story?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, No, okay, So Lisa writes, since the remake is
Speaker 2: coming out, here's my story about how I actually had
Speaker 2: something unexplained to happen after watching the nineteen ninety two
Speaker 2: version as a young teen. Despite the whole Bloody Mary
Speaker 2: thing scaring me since I was in third grade. One night,
Speaker 2: after watching Candy Man alone as a young teen, I
Speaker 2: decided to try it out for fun. After all, it
Speaker 2: was just a stupid horror movie, unlike that Bloody Mary story. Right. Wait,
Speaker 2: pauls Gunnard, do you know about this Like with candy Man,
Speaker 2: you say his name five times and then he appears.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like Bloody Mary. But yes, to
Speaker 1: be in front of the mirror, yeah, yes, okay, So
Speaker 1: on my way to bed, I stopped in front of
Speaker 1: the mirror in set at the back of a nook
Speaker 1: which held some lamps and plants.
Speaker 2: I quickly reeded the words candy Man, candy Man, candy
Speaker 2: Man as I stared at my face reflected in the
Speaker 2: dimly lit mirror. Nothing happened, of course, and I made
Speaker 2: my way to bed. Lying on my back in the dark,
Speaker 2: I suddenly became very sleepy. Sounds perfectly normal, but I'd
Speaker 2: had insomnia most of my life at that point, and
Speaker 2: I never fell asleep without at least lying there for
Speaker 2: an hour or more. It was strange, unexpected. It was
Speaker 2: a strange, unexpected wave of sleepiness all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I heard a very loud thump against the one halla
Speaker 2: wall in my room, the one connected to the bathroom,
Speaker 2: which at the time no one was in. It sounded
Speaker 2: like a very heavy object, like say, a very heavy
Speaker 2: metal hook, slammed against that wall and then drug its
Speaker 2: way down. I've lived in that house for years at
Speaker 2: that point, and I had never heard anything like that. Also,
Speaker 2: I wasn't prone to hearing sounds that weren't actually there.
Speaker 2: I was definitely fully awake, despite being suddenly tired, but
Speaker 2: I wasn't in that state between sleep and awake wherein
Speaker 2: people are likely to experience hypnogogic hallucinations. I remember thinking,
Speaker 2: I just hope he waits till I'm asleep to kill me.
Speaker 2: Oh God. I immediately pass out, and of course awoke
Speaker 2: the next day, just fine. I know there'd be various
Speaker 2: explanations to this, but from my end, I know I
Speaker 2: didn't dream or hallucinate it. Many years later, I'd also
Speaker 2: learned that in some cases where people experience the paranormal,
Speaker 2: they become suddenly inexplicably sleepy and will fall asleep immediately
Speaker 2: despite experiencing something that should scare you awake. My theory
Speaker 2: is we'd had several paranormal and unexplained things happen in
Speaker 2: that house, and I think it was something that was
Speaker 2: already there deciding to mess with me. I don't believe
Speaker 2: Candy man is real, nor Bloody Marry. I do think,
Speaker 2: as Nietzsche said, when you stare into the abyss, the
Speaker 2: abyss stares back at you.
Speaker 1: Mysterious.
Speaker 2: I also think that after you see a scary movie,
Speaker 2: you're in like a spooked out state of mind. Like
Speaker 2: all those images, especially Candy Mane, which is very gruesome
Speaker 2: imagery that is like now in your brain, and so
Speaker 2: you're kind of on alert, you're kind of spook. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times I've seen a
Speaker 2: horror movie and then I tiptoe around home.
Speaker 1: It just stain your brain.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it puts you in that that mindset. But
Speaker 2: then you know there's people that believe that like demons
Speaker 2: or dark energies. They they're totally horny for fear. I
Speaker 2: don't know how to put it there. There, they create
Speaker 2: on it people's fear. They're just like looking for it
Speaker 2: at all times. And so if somebody sees a scary
Speaker 2: movie and now they're in a state of fear. Maybe
Speaker 2: these energies are like that one. And so when people
Speaker 2: are like, oh, paranormal activity, like I saw it and
Speaker 2: then this crazy thing happened, It's like maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, do we really know? I mean maybe once
Speaker 1: it's planted in your minds is maybe there's some self
Speaker 1: fulfilling bit of that, you know, like where you're like
Speaker 1: so susceptible to it that you're open to receiving some
Speaker 1: kind of contact or push or nudge.
Speaker 2: Well, or it could all just be in your mind
Speaker 2: or the demons want you to they're doing like reverse
Speaker 2: psychology where they're like, oh, this person's gonna think that
Speaker 2: this is all in their mind, because why would something
Speaker 2: like this happen. That's too good to be true. This
Speaker 2: is when I'll prey on them.
Speaker 1: If there's a little counsel of demons waiting for a
Speaker 1: good moment to pray on me, I'm gonna be real upset.
Speaker 2: Well, you got the crystals, believe in the crystals I've got.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'll do a little circle of them around me.
Speaker 1: I'm open to if y'all want me to feature your
Speaker 1: crystals in my videos and protect me. I'm open to
Speaker 1: that too.
Speaker 2: There you go. Well, see, there is something called I
Speaker 2: think it's called ct top tromancy, which is something that's
Speaker 2: been around for forever, which is people looking into mirrors
Speaker 2: or crystal balls and uh, looking into the future or
Speaker 2: getting messages from the other side. Did you ever do
Speaker 2: bloody Mary?
Speaker 1: We did? Actually, my next door neighbor is When I
Speaker 1: was a kid, their grandmother's house was super freaky, like
Speaker 1: their grandfather had died in the house and so like
Speaker 1: things would move around the doors and things would be open.
Speaker 1: Like I was really young when we would go over there,
Speaker 1: but they were really into doing bloody Mary in the house.
Speaker 1: So we did that a lot, and I was always
Speaker 1: like nervous diarrhea in the corner of praying.
Speaker 2: True, did anything happen?
Speaker 1: You know, Like not that I really remember, but I
Speaker 1: just remember being so afraid while we were doing it,
Speaker 1: and thinking this is really wrong. I can't believe I'm
Speaker 1: letting them talk me into this again. Hey, I'm a
Speaker 1: very afraid child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well same, I still am. Connor. Do you want
Speaker 2: to hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's time for EVP or ev Please do you
Speaker 2: remember what an EVP is I do. I do, Yeah,
Speaker 2: electronic voice phenomenal. So I go to YouTube. I find
Speaker 2: people that believe they've captured ghost voices, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: play it for you and they'll give you some options.
Speaker 2: So tell me what you hear. This first one is
Speaker 2: from Claire Mark Chords or Cordez. I'm not sure how
Speaker 2: you say it, but it's at a place that I
Speaker 2: know you've been, Waverly Hills Sanatorium southwestern Louisville. That is
Speaker 2: one of the classic haunted locations of the world. What
Speaker 2: is this ghost saying? Jills?
Speaker 1: Because I wasn't ready for it.
Speaker 2: There is a lot of background noise, but there's like
Speaker 2: a whispery voice in there. You're paid again, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It always sounds like stranger.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's some options. Is it a That one is sweet?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Is it I'm trying to sleep some cranky ghost. That's like,
Speaker 2: get out of hair with your ghost ending equipment?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: See someone better sweep you clean up this mess? This
Speaker 2: might be a haunted abandoned sanatorium, but at least keep
Speaker 2: it tiny.
Speaker 1: People want it to be number two so bad?
Speaker 2: Or is it just like nothing at all? It's just
Speaker 2: somebody walking and shuffling their feet.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a voice in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me play it again.
Speaker 1: God, you know what I want to say.
Speaker 2: It's number C number see number C. So someone better sweep,
Speaker 2: someone better sweep. Okay, let me play it again. They
Speaker 2: believe it says that one is sweet ew. I don't
Speaker 2: like that we played again now that we know that
Speaker 2: I can kind of hear it. I definitely hear it.
Speaker 2: I definitely hear like a sleep at the end. Okay,
Speaker 2: here's one more. This one is from SPIRIT, which stands
Speaker 2: for Sydney Paranormal Incident Research Investigation Team.
Speaker 1: Get a girl, we love an anagram.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm assuming that that's Sydney, Australia. It doesn't really
Speaker 2: say where it is besides that it's a private house.
Speaker 2: Now a little warning. There's like a beeping in this
Speaker 2: little SoundBite. It's probably some kind of paranormal equipment that's
Speaker 2: making a beeping sound. But there's also a voice. Okay,
Speaker 2: here we go. Did he hear it? Me play it again?
Speaker 1: What are the options?
Speaker 2: Okay? Is it a for YouTube? They're like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give you a ghost voice for YouTube? Is it b
Speaker 2: I feel it too, is it C beauty or D
Speaker 2: big booty? All right, let me play it again. Okay.
Speaker 1: At first I thought it was saying I'm wet, and
Speaker 1: now I think it sounds like mint. So what are
Speaker 1: the options again? Like, play it again and listen to
Speaker 1: don't hear the word mint.
Speaker 2: I'm here. Well, I know what it is, so all
Speaker 2: I can hear is what it is. Okay, Well what
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 1: What is it? Beauty?
Speaker 2: Let me play again?
Speaker 1: Play it again? I don't know. I think they're ordering
Speaker 1: mint ice cream from beyond from beyond mint please?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess that's what I got.
Speaker 1: Is the ghost is at the dentist asking which flavor
Speaker 1: of toothpaste mint?
Speaker 2: Mint?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 2: I hear booty. Okay, Well, gunner, I guess that's uh,
Speaker 2: that's it for this time.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope I gave you everything you wanted more.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope that you go to a psychic and
Speaker 2: you know it sounds like you want to go to
Speaker 2: a psych medium. Yeah I do, and let me know
Speaker 2: how that goes. Yeah, we'll have a little recap, please. Well,
Speaker 2: can you tell everyone where to find you and all
Speaker 2: that stuff?
Speaker 1: Yes? So I'm on YouTube and TikTok and Instagram, and
Speaker 1: it's just my name, Gunner g u n n R.
Speaker 1: My last name is death Ridge. It's spelled like death
Speaker 1: e rage h.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm just making dresses and fun content and just
Speaker 1: condensing it down into sixty second bite sized portions so
Speaker 1: you can enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I love it well, Gunner, Thank.
Speaker 1: You, Angish, thank you so much for having me back
Speaker 1: for your little spooky hour.
Speaker 2: Thank you Gunner death Ridge. And if you want to
Speaker 2: hear a little bit more good at patreon dot com,
Speaker 2: slash rosdres Fales and you can hear me talking to
Speaker 2: Gunner on my second tier Patreon where we uh talk
Speaker 2: about various paranormal phenomenas like past lives, mothman, haunted dolls,
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And you can watch a
Speaker 2: video of me talking about crystals there. Hey you guys subscribed.
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Speaker 2: all the things, all the places, all the stuff, you
Speaker 2: know all of it. If you haven't seen Gunner's TikTok,
Speaker 2: it's pretty incredible. I mean, the things that Gunner can
Speaker 2: do with some fabric absolutely insane. It's mesmerizing the way
Speaker 2: that he edits it and just his work in general.
Speaker 2: Can't speak more highly of Gunner. So I'm so grateful
Speaker 2: for him to be on this show this week, and
Speaker 2: go back and listen to the first time he was on,
Speaker 2: because it'll keep you up at night. All Right. I
Speaker 2: love you all, both living and dead. But if I
Speaker 2: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came back.
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