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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's off the edge of me, your host,

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Speaker 1: Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 2: I'm super excited because when I'm in off season, I'm

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Speaker 2: eating what I want.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm sort of slowly headed.

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Speaker 2: Towards offensive lineman territory of egregious way over. You know,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about it, but it's not about me. It's

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Speaker 2: not about you know, off the edge of the podcast

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Speaker 2: because honestly, it's just a vehicle where I get to

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Speaker 2: talk to my really good friends across the league. We

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Speaker 2: get to talk good ball. We gotta talk about, you know,

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Speaker 2: how our days going, how our life is going. You know,

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Speaker 2: the season that we're putting together. Like this guy Eric Armstad,

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Speaker 2: who has put together so many different years together as

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Speaker 2: an and as an edge, as a d tackle, a

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Speaker 2: man who you really can't put in a position, eleven

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Speaker 2: seasons deep, seventeenth overall from the twenty fifteenth draft class.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got his own podcast called Third and Long.

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Speaker 2: A defensive lineman out of Oregon currently with the jack Huars.

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Speaker 2: You know who who had a top tier defense this year?

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Speaker 2: Comeing and my guy Eric Armstead, Oh my bat, Walter

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Speaker 2: Payton man the year we're winning Pro.

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Speaker 1: Bowler what's up, Bro, Appreciate you having me on the show.

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Speaker 1: Big fan of the show. Love what you do with

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Speaker 1: your with your brand and with your platform. Bro, So

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Speaker 1: it's honor to join you. Man. Yeah, you know, we

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Speaker 1: sort of got the same hair hairstyle right now. You

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Speaker 1: you know, I d m J. I was like, Bro,

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Speaker 1: you you got some you'r aesthetic as bipolar. Bro. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you be going for each and every

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Speaker 1: all season, but hey, a minimum schizophreny of me, Bro.

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Speaker 1: I like this one though. I'm not gonna lie. This

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Speaker 1: one's smooth.

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Speaker 2: Hey, bro, you know, I'm just I'm in my life.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to be the best soccer player. I could

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Speaker 2: be FIFA World Cup coming up. I'm trying to blend there,

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Speaker 2: you know, getting no service, you know, I'm really just

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Speaker 2: trying to feel my best Dominican player.

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Speaker 1: I could be. No. This one's smooth. This I feel

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Speaker 1: like this one of your your better ones. It definitely

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Speaker 1: make you look a lot younger, which is which is

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Speaker 1: a good thing. As we are, you know, as you know,

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Speaker 1: and they're trying to throw age out there quick. He's

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Speaker 2: Feel phenomenal, you know how do you feel about after

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Speaker 2: at the end of this season? You know, every season

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Speaker 2: has its ups and downs. Every season you're like, dang,

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Speaker 2: I feel good this year, or damn, it's gonna take

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Speaker 1: I actually feel great. It's probably the best I felt

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Speaker 1: To be honest, body feels good, body feels great. To

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, decided to have a healthy off season,

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Speaker 1: to training and looking forward to you know, another great

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, how you feel, man, I feel phenomenal? Uh.

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Speaker 2: In my mind, I was like, yo, I wish I

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Speaker 2: Now I started playing pick aball literally two days after.

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Speaker 2: I can't even put up out there tequila, and I

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Speaker 1: Now that's what's up. I felt. I don't know, bro,

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Speaker 2: This is the first time I've even never I've never

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Speaker 2: We got a little ten piece and a biscuit. Tell

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Speaker 2: Chase Young win news at the night And I played

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Speaker 2: I told Chase, you know, i'd be like, I'd be

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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I say. I said, Hey, I said,

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Speaker 2: playing at Lanta last game. That boy said, let's stop

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Speaker 2: I said, the world might have messed up because now

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Speaker 1: What happened with y'all? Though? I feel like y'allre playing

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Speaker 1: really good football down the stretch. Yeah. Yeah, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: I said, damn said, we got young quarterback. We're trying

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Speaker 2: I see how you know Cardinals always start off hot.

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Speaker 2: Winning is not something you just fall into. It's it's

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Speaker 2: five years, brother, we know.

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Speaker 2: Bruell me tell me tell me about the researchers y'all

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Speaker 2: Bro started watching it, I was sort of exciting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, like like any season, ups

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Speaker 1: like I feel like it always starts there. You can't

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Speaker 1: gotta stop the run to have fun. Bro. So definitely

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Speaker 1: some guys you know all pro Devin Lloyd went crazy

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Speaker 1: He got that speed to power that people are not like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Bro, it'd be it'd be it'd be crazy.

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Speaker 2: Hell ya, So you feel like that's one of you

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Speaker 2: I mean you know, that just brings believe me to

426
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 2: my next question, like, when is it that you were

427
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 2: able to buy into uh to go in as as

428
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 2: a head coach.

429
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean I bought it. I bought him from the

430
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 1: very dump. You know. When we hired him, he did

431
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 1: something that a head coach and I had never seen do.

432
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: Like the first couple of days with him getting hired,

433
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: me and Josh hens Allen went to dinner with him

434
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: to kick it with him and just meet him, and

435
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this is this is really cool,

436
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: Like to have an opportunity to you know, get to

437
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: know your coach on more of a personal level and

438
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 1: that that was a point of the emphasis for him

439
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: and he wanted to do that too. So from the

440
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, from the jump, it was like let's go,

441
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like we got things to

442
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: get turned around, and there was a new new vibe

443
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 1: in the building and everyone was, you know, trying to

444
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: get it done together in facts. Yeah many you know

445
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: that that helps you build him the next year as well.

446
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: You go thirteen to four, confidence high for next year. Yeah,

447
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: with with with going with you know with that too,

448
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, higher expectations as well too, so you know,

449
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: the work just getting started, higher expectations. You're not gonna

450
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: surprise people anymore, you know all that comes with it.

451
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: People are know you're a good team, but there's you know,

452
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: a lot more to do. We'll be right back. Let's

453
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: pivot to the main you know, main week coming up

454
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: after after this week, it'll be the super Bowl week,

455
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, uh.

456
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: Back in the back in the Bay, which isn't the

457
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: most well organized super Bowl to begin with. Yes, it's

458
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: Santa Clara, Santa Clara, so it's really not a part

459
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: of the Bay. But they're gonna say it's the baby

460
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 2: say in San Francisco, but it's gonna it's gonna be

461
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 2: some events in Oakland.

462
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some Vince in San Francisco.

463
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some events in like San Jose, and

464
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: they're gonna try and make some events in Santa Clair.

465
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: Like it's too spread out, too spread out, and the

466
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl is there too. I wanted to talk to

467
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: you about this, bro. I like that. Yeah, it's cool.

468
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: But do you know they they stopped doing alternates for

469
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: O line d Lin? Is that what happened? Yes?

470
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: Bro?

471
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: Who like who like falling? If nobody goes, they just don't.

472
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: They just don't, no one.

473
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: Oh, so what happens if if two guys like you,

474
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: so like de Marcus Lawrence going to Super Bowl?

475
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: Who feels no, they just play a seven or seven game?

476
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, who decided that? Who decided the alternate? So quarterbacks?

477
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: Can you can have the fifty fifth? There's a there's

478
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: alternates for every position except old line d Lin. We

479
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: got we gotta just we gotta talk about that, Yeah,

480
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: we gotta. I did not know that.

481
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: I was wondering who the alternates were going down?

482
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: There isn't that's there is no bro. I was like,

483
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: who decided that? So we gotta have we gotta have

484
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: some discussions, man, no doubt. Cool, Bro, I'm looking at it.

485
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, like, if we just look at stats alone,

486
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: I was like, bro Like, but okay, that's that's definitely something.

487
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: How do you not have alternates that at the most

488
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: important position not named quarterback?

489
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know how. Well, yeah,

490
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: we gotta have some discussions with that, because that's not cool.

491
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 1: But you know you were talking about uh super a

492
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: week and all that. But I'm excited. I'm gonna be

493
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: out there. I know you're gonna be out there too.

494
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: We get to lead up. You still got you still

495
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: got the crib out in the bay or you sald

496
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: that thing. Nah. I had a house in Sack for

497
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: a couple of years, but since since sold that. You know,

498
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: you guys set up get you in Florida, taxis man,

499
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: I got I got a house here. I left here.

500
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 1: I lived here and least offices and this is me now,

501
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: okay this I will be here all right. So we

502
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: talked about let's talk about Seattle. We both played them.

503
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: I played them and I looked up in the first

504
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: quarter it was they was twenty one up in all

505
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: the type of way.

506
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: I said, Oh, I said twenty eight, I said. I

507
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: said wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. I said, wait.

508
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: We didn't have a chance to fight back, fight back

509
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: in every game I've been I said, yo, like, there's

510
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: three plays that we needed back. We would have won

511
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: the game. See we played Seattle, I said, bro, we

512
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: have seventeen things go wrong.

513
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: That was the that was the r for us.

514
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: Oh that was he We was fighting from from second

515
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 2: quarter on like, oh, we made it look good at

516
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: the end, ish, but we were Finally, I said, bro,

517
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: that's not how it's.

518
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: Supposed to go. Fight back. Put your hands up, do something,

519
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: do something. I'm looking at looking like this, could y'all

520
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: fight that? I want to pass out a good team.

521
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: Our game went a little differently. They beat this by eight,

522
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: but I will say like they controlled. They did control

523
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: the game. The defense played very well. You know, we

524
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: stopped their run game. They didn't run the ball on

525
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: us at all. But Sam Donald made some big plays.

526
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: They got in big people, you know, taking shots down

527
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: the field. JSN I think went crazy. I think he

528
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: had about one seventy versus US. So even though we

529
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: stopped the run, you know, they got the raid. Yeah,

530
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of an air raid. So

531
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: they got a good team, man, very they don't have.

532
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: Looking at their team, it's like there's no holes really,

533
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's no holes in the roster. They're all

534
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: you know, even some of the positions that may not

535
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: be as good, like, they're still solid and sound and

536
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: so good team. Uh. You know, they definitely play playoff

537
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: type football. They want to run the football, protect the football,

538
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: and play good defense. And when you can play good defense,

539
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback and you can run the football

540
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: and the quarterback don't turn it over. That's a recipe

541
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: for success. And then also you add in Sam Donald

542
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: is talented, talented enough to take over games as well too,

543
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: and and and take shots down the field. So yeah,

544
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: they got a they got a very very good team.

545
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: Man.

546
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: Playing against them, it was I was like, Okay, I

547
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: see why, you know, this is one of the better

548
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: teams in the league. That was early in the season,

549
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: but I was like, man, it's a it's a very

550
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: good team. And that defense playing phenomenal, uh, playmakers at

551
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: all at every level, and The thing I think that

552
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: sticks out to me about their defense is their overall speed,

553
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: Like they play fast, they look fast, they play fast,

554
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: and that playing fast, as you know, on defense, covers

555
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: up a lot of mistakes, no doubt. I say that

556
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: that front seven is crazy, but the back is fire to.

557
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: Your weakest position is linebacker, and Ernest Jones the fourth

558
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: is not weak.

559
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: I think Ernest might have been All Pro this year.

560
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: He again, Yeah, hey, corners is going crazy. Safety's going crazy.

561
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: That's your only like linebackers. Just no, he's bulling.

562
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: Then you got you got three dudes in the in

563
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: the back end. That's for three or lower. Yeah, for sure.

564
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: Wool Wooling. He ran with a spooning ran like four

565
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: to three. And then number three the rookie, he's he's

566
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: going I don't want to butcher his name. He's super

567
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: fast and.

568
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: He popped up the screen. I see him cover two

569
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: thirds of the field. I said, I said, he's a rookie.

570
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: I said, wait, oh yeah, they got I played him.

571
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: I said, I had to think about this. I was

572
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: over were worried about the office. I started looking at

573
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: the said that defense is cold. Yeah, Nick, Nick, Sure

574
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: there we go.

575
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, nick nick nick out, they're going crazy, No, going crazy,

576
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: for sure. I think he might be up for a

577
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: defensive Rookie of the Year. That makes sense.

578
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, that makes that makes sense. The boy's talented,

579
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: all right. So that's that's Seattle side.

580
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: I got a good team. I'm not going to Seattle

581
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: got a great team.

582
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: Look when I looked at it, I said, the only

583
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: team that might pose a problem to the Rams was Seattle.

584
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: They beat him a couple weeks before. I said, it's

585
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: hard to beat team two teams in a row. That

586
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: was my only rationale because on paper, I said, I say,

587
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: you say Pooka, you say I'd say, you know JS

588
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: and you can you say Davante, You said Cooper Cup

589
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: Like they had answers at every position.

590
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: You know, Kyle Williams. Okay, you got Kenny Walker.

591
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: You know, He's the only thing I said, Okay, And

592
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: I said, Matt Stafford is arguably going to be a

593
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: top five, top ten quarterback of all time soon enough,

594
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: if he's not already there.

595
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and probably encroaching on top in top four area. Now, yeah, Matt,

596
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, He's he got out of it. He got

597
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: out of Detroit and done.

598
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: Leveled up, level up, And I said, I said, you know,

599
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know if Sam Donald could match

600
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: his play.

601
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: I was dead wrong. Sam Donald was out there dicing

602
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: things up. Donald was cooking, bro. He said, you want

603
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: to throw for three hundred me two? Sam? One of

604
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: them like Baker Mayfield. Man, they got chip on their shoulder.

605
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: They changed the whole narrative. I was a teammate with Sam,

606
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: he was. He was on our team and the Niners

607
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. Yeah, and I think Party maybe

608
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: got hurt one or two games that year. Sam came

609
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: in did his thing. It was like, you know, we

610
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: were all very comfortable having Sam, like if something happened

611
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: to Party. We were very comfortable winning football games with

612
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. And he's done nothing but shown shown that

613
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: since since leaving the Niners. He went to the Vikings.

614
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: This is second two years in a row, fourteen and three. Yeah.

615
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Not a lot of quarterbacks doing that for for different teams.

616
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: Man, he saw I saw the Minnesota Vikings and they said, yeah,

617
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: but we got this JJ JJ McCarthy And.

618
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, treat him like, treat him like a brother.

619
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Love Jordan Love. You know what I'm saying, like they

620
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: put him, put him in school for a couple of

621
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: years and then make him bomb.

622
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: But they they dealed him out, and Seattle was like, yo,

623
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: we like winners. And Sam Donald has done his part too,

624
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: and now they're in the in the super Bowl, and

625
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: so now let's talk about Patriot because all we've done

626
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: is hyped up Seattle, which I know who I think

627
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 2: is gonna win.

628
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Here's a light.

629
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot to hype about the Patriots too. Day

630
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: is going crazy. But let's ten get real about this, right, Patriots.

631
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: Drake Drake May May, whatever the name is. Yeah, Drake

632
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: May is out there spinning right.

633
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: Was all season? Yep, a little bit. I mean their

634
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: their offense hasn't been as prolific in the in the

635
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: playoffs quite honestly. But but that I mean, you're in

636
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Hey, the job done.

637
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: He threw for what ninety yards last game and it

638
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: was a blizzard that came in, but the first half

639
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: wasn't a blizzard.

640
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you uses his feet when when when he needs

641
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Speaker 1: to A surprisingly fast man. I played against him last year. Complete, well,

642
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: the whole organization is a complete three sixty They were

643
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: last year yeah, you talk about us going from four

644
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: and thirteen to thirteen and four Super Bowl. They went

645
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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl with you know, with their turnaround.

646
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: So but I think the big thing that I see

647
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Speaker 1: with the Patriots is they had a lot of cap

648
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Speaker 1: space this all season, and they they they hit on

649
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: them free agencies, no doubt. And what I'm and I

650
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't really watched them all year, you know. No,

651
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of crossover film with some

652
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: teams we played, but I haven't watched like a TV

653
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: game and stuff, so I really wasn't paying attention. But

654
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Speaker 1: then I'm watching the game, I'm like, man, they got

655
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis, what sor Gonzales? What? Now? They got lockdown corners.

656
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Then you go to the defensive line. They got they

657
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: got They got mil Williams from Christian Barmore, Chase On

658
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: trading for him real quick and come here crazy. I'm like,

659
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Then they signed Harold Landry in free agency. You go

660
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball, they got Stefan Diggs,

661
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: Morgan Moses, you know, to help reassure that office of line.

662
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: Steps Morgan Moses offensive tackle mm hmm, Office of Tackle.

663
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: You know, what I mean, I'll be trying to go

664
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Speaker 2: out my way and not to the office of lineman.

665
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Speaker 2: So you threw that one out there. That's what they drafted.

666
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Speaker 1: Will Campbell, you do it, you yeah, but you do

667
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Speaker 1: anything you can and respect them to disrespect every time.

668
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Speaker 1: Every time.

669
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Speaker 2: Bro, what if they got they're not looking and they

670
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Speaker 2: got their shoe.

671
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Speaker 1: I do got an off script question for you because

672
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Speaker 1: I wanted to know it and I can't even I

673
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Speaker 1: don't know why I can't remember his name, his face,

674
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Speaker 1: But you know the uh trucking with the Boys that

675
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: y'all was on ESPN. What's the office line? And needs

676
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Speaker 1: to play for the tights Busting with the boys Taylor

677
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Speaker 1: lu Wan Okay, So in that when you know you

678
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: said what you said about the office line, and.

679
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Go ahead repeat it that there is athletic that's where

680
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: you end up athlete.

681
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: When he pulled up them combine comparisons, what was going

682
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: through your head because you got to think, quick are

683
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: your toes? He was kind of on you. No, no, women,

684
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Speaker 1: you know what's the women line? Men line numbers, don't

685
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Speaker 1: I said, Oh, he picked out he picked out the

686
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: listick that's gonna make the pig look good, HU show

687
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Speaker 1: all the numbers. We were close in jumps.

688
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Speaker 2: That's fine, brother, But guess what when it comes to fluidity,

689
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: when it comes to being on the field, there's no

690
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: comparison of what he was doing on the fielder versus

691
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: what I could do on the field.

692
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Speaker 1: You can effect nine times out of ten. When you

693
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Speaker 1: get a new draft pick, right Eric, like you already know,

694
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: like they've drafted this freak from ut s A that

695
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Speaker 1: had you know, that jumps a forty five inch vert

696
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: and runs a four or five and it's six foot

697
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: seven and whatever looks looks better. His numbers always gonna

698
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: say they're gonna be better. But can he beat you out? No? No, yeah,

699
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: you know hey, but but so he threw those numbers out,

700
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you numbers? Tell me? That's like

701
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: you remember that office a lineman from like University of

702
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: Maryland that ran a four six or four seven and

703
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: went top ten and got his name was Campbell and

704
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: he got drafted the Raiders. I believe the guy guy

705
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: making like a four six, Yeah, yeah exactly. They were like, man,

706
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the best, how because you're gonna high

707
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Speaker 1: be hindred numbers didn't make you an athlete.

708
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Speaker 2: No, show me what he did. Can he put that together?

709
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm unfazed by He's like, but our

710
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: numbers were similar. Brother, we can look we can look similar,

711
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: but does not make what doesn't mean that we're the same.

712
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was a way that was. I'm here.

713
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm here for all smoke at all time from any

714
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: office of lineman. And and and they're coming out the woodworks.

715
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: I'd probably don't hurt feelings. And I don't mean to

716
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: like they're like, bro, we're done all fat?

717
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

718
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: I get that fat is a sensitive topic, and I

719
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: get it, and I that should not be a word

720
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: that I threw out there lightly. But when you took

721
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: the scale of three hundred fifty pounds, nobody ever called

722
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: you skinny.

723
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think. I mean there's there's oh no,

724
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: there's some out there. There's outliers, there's freak athletes out

725
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: there in all forms. Yeah, there's some out there like

726
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: the old lineman that I respect, that are like I

727
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: would consider, you know, more of like a true athlete.

728
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: They had to hoop. If you ain't hoop, does your

729
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: cut off? If you ain't go across sports if you didn't.

730
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: No, Hey, I respect I respect the entire position for sure,

731
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm gonna go out of my way to

732
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: disrespect them every time because you're my op. But I

733
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: respect the entire I respect the entire position because bro, Like,

734
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, there's still the top

735
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: one percent of the top one percent, So I respect them,

736
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: like dang like you off the alignment, like, bro, because

737
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: you ain't grow up thinking like ooh, I can't wait

738
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: to do this past set.

739
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: Man. You you dream of touchdowns for second quarterbacks, You

740
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: dreamed of hitting somebody, You dreamed of playing basketball. You

741
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: maybe even tennis golf. You ain't never woke up in

742
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: like at seven years old, was like, let me start

743
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: backpedaling really slow but effectively. No. Right, So you resiliency

744
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: because they gotta do something that they never dreamed of doing,

745
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: no doubt.

746
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: Hey, you might have to think that. What Hey, I

747
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: respect you, bro for living a dream that I know

748
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: you never had. Yes, all right, who you got winning

749
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? We get you out of here.

750
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, welcome to the dark side. Uh, I'm gonna

751
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: go Seattle, Bro, Yeah, I'm gonna go Seattle. I think

752
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good game. Though I don't think uh,

753
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: Seattle's gonna blow them out by any means, but I think,

754
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: I think, I think it's gonna be decisive. I think

755
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna be decisive win. Mm hmm. It's in. It's

756
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: in the Bay. Seattle's nor has played over up there

757
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: twice already, the third time playing in the Bay. They're

758
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: very familiar with the area, feel familiar on the operations.

759
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: I think the I think Patriots. I think Vrabel's a

760
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: hell of a coach, so it's gonna get them ready.

761
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: But I think because of the last two or three

762
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: performances offensive side, you know again, Drake may through for

763
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: ninety yards last game being and change when he when

764
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: he meets a formidable defense. He hasn't really proven in

765
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs that he could shine. Now they still got

766
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: the win, they're still in the super Bowl, and I

767
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: think they have potential. Especially I like the kid.

768
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: Uh they're running back Henderson, Yes, yep, steven they got

769
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: one Henderson and Stevenson. I think, yeah. I like I

770
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: like their back, their backs, I like I like their

771
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: tight ends. I like the wide receiver.

772
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: Then there's there's also Matt Collins, which is a completely

773
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: I said, he gets all the dirty work. He comes

774
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: in barefoot and he's willing to block anybody and do

775
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: all the dirty work.

776
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: So I like that. Yeah, he putting he putting them

777
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: dirty hands and feet on people. Now, Max, Max, Matt

778
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: is that receiver that you need, Bro, Like that's what

779
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: you say.

780
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: He's the edge, Like you know receivers are you know

781
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: these guys You're like, Bro, You're not You're not willing

782
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 2: to do this dirty work.

783
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: He is down the field blocks though, whatever it takes,

784
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: he's willing to do.

785
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: So. I mean, I think I think the Patriot will

786
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: make it a good game. I just don't think it's

787
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: gonna be close. I think it's gonna be like a

788
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: ten point swing in for sure Seattle's favor. And don't

789
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: let them, don't let him get rashid sha He going

790
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: on special teams early, they score, they scored one on

791
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: special teams.

792
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: Big fella, it's gonna it's gonna get ugly. Yeah, I

793
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: don't know how. Y'all let him get up out of

794
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: shut up, shut up, don't do this to me right now.

795
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: What happened was he was headed towards free agency. I

796
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: don't know, how did that man handed him this Super Bowl?

797
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: Bro Chris Olive had his first all Pro season. You know,

798
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: So we had two of the same six foot speedster types,

799
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: and so I that's how I'm rationalizing it.

800
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: We had two of the same type receivers, and honestly,

801
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: we were trying to force Shaheed to just be receiver.

802
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: When he's a receiver, he's he's he's he's a returner. Yeah,

803
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: he didn't return much this past year for us, and

804
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: then he went back to his natural position.

805
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: And he's a Pro bowler. Yeah, he's also returner. Yeah,

806
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: the game going that way too, No doubt, there's a

807
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: lot of parallels in the roster. I don't think. I

808
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: think the talent is kind of equivalent on both sides.

809
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: But you know, just kind of from from what I seen.

810
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: You know, Drake may could have an.

811
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: Explosion, and if he showed what he showed during regular season,

812
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: then then it's gonna be a tight game.

813
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could. He could have a he could have

814
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: an explosion. You never know, you know, like Super Bowl Sunday,

815
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: do something a little different to you. You know, you

816
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: could come out. I don't know that me tell me

817
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: because I want that. I don't want so bad, My bad,

818
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: my bad. I mean, I ain't one one, but I

819
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: know super Bowl Sunday, you know, do something a little

820
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: different to you. Man. You get a little magic. Some

821
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: people get a little magical powers. Absolutely right. We'll see

822
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: if the magic hits this weekend, yeah, for sure next weekend. Yeah.

823
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: But anyways, I appreciate you. Stop and body trap man.

824
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: You know this is my pod bro off the edge

825
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: of me, Your host Cam Jordan, and my dog Eric

826
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: Armstead were talking ball, were talking all things that pertain

827
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Speaker 2: to our sport that we love, you know, shout out

828
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Speaker 2: to the office of Lineman. You know, the unsung heroes,

829
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: the ones that their best games nobody says their name

830
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Speaker 2: because that's just what the job details. So I respect you,

831
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, and I appreciate my dog, Eric Arnstead

832
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: and all my dogs are interne. Super Bowl go win

833
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Speaker 2: one because lord knows I want one. Appreciate y'all for

834
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Speaker 2: tapping it in to the podcast shut out to the

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Speaker 2: listeners the viewers. You can find us on podcasts on iHeartRadio, app,

836
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Speaker 2: Apple podcasts, all podcast platforms, and of course now the

837
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: NFL's YouTube page.

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00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: We can come check us out.

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Speaker 2: We're having a good time, we're having a bless we're

840
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Speaker 2: blessed to be here, blessed. How you favor going forward

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Speaker 2: to many more years of success for you, my guy,