1 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, how are you. It's been so long. 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: I know, I was excited. I feel so big time. 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: When I have certain people on, it's weird. I can't 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: explain it because usually I'm just like ranting talking about 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: bullshit like tuna fish. And then there's someone that I'm 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: like excited about because I only swear in my life. 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: I only have people on when i'm excited about them. 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited to talk to you. I'm excited to 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: have a big talk. I feel like so much has 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: changed for both of us and to be last met 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: and like you are like now the TikToker, the TikToker, 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Like you're moving and you're just like in this amazing 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: era and you're just like killing it and you're so 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I know social media doesn't tell the whole truth, 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: but you seem very inflow and very happy right. 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: Now in the pocket. 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: It's very cool to see. 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: No, let's do our perspectives about each other and then 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 2: let's correct them. 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: Let's do that. That's fun. 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, first of all, I don't think I 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: knew last time it was Christina Najar that that's your name. 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: That's my real name. Yes, and I gave myself to 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Tanks the nickname when I was like twelve long sto oh, I. 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: Did know that. 27 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: I do remember that. I actually do remember. I forgot that. 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: I remember that. 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Wait a second, So who calls you Christina? Like my 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: parents and that's kind of it. 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: My parents and a few friends maybe from from high school, 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: but mostly everybody calls me thinks. 33 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: Right, and also like you kind of don't have a 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: last name, which is like me, and that's very cool. 35 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of cool. Yeah, it's easy, and it's like, 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: you know, it works. It's easy. It's four letters, you know, 37 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: one and done. 38 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: So that's a good question. 39 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: If someone meets you on an airplane, all right, so 40 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: you meet like a really successful like mobil baller guy 41 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: who's like a big player but doesn't know anything about 42 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: this world, and like you're smart in your. 43 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Edge Justina all the way, I'm like, Hi, I'm Christina. 44 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: Okay, but like then, even more, what do you do 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: for a living? Now You're gonna be like. 46 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: I'm an influencause he's gonna think you're some thought dope. 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: It's tough and I don't know at me, I'm in. 48 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: My fifties, can you imagine me. 49 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: Because you're like, I'm a TikToker. They're like what And 50 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm not ashamed, and I know you 51 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: aren't either of being an influencer whatsoever. I love it 52 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's amazing, but there is some judgment 53 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: if people don't live in this world and they don't know, 54 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: there are preconceived notions. So I say, like, I have 55 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: a radio show first, because I feel like if they 56 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: don't live in the world, it's true and I can 57 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: go in. And then I'm like, and I do a 58 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: little influencing on the side, you know, kind of interest 59 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: edge them into it, versus just come out and be 60 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: like I talked to my phone for eight hours a day. 61 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: Well no, but it's more that, like saying influencer. 62 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: It's even worse at your age because it sounds very like, 63 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: of course you are you want to buy like anel bag? Yes, 64 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: thirty something years old, you want me to take you 65 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: to for me? It sounds insane, But it's different. 66 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: It's not like it's interesting. It's like, why what do 67 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: you mean you're a TikToker? Like that's so cool, very weird. Yeah, no, 68 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: it's cool, but it's Christina to guys. Okay, so Christina, 69 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: two guys. So how has it evolved since last time? 70 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: So you've had ebbs, You've had flows, You've had cancelations, 71 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: you've popped off, you know, like what's real, what's not real? Like, 72 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: tell me about the state of the union, address of 73 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: this career where you are, what you've learned, and. 74 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: Like how it's going. 75 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: It's funny. It's really a different job than I thought 76 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: it was. And there's so much more ebbing and flowing 77 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: than I thought. And you kind of have to like 78 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: take your lumps and you kind of have to ride 79 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: the wave through it and survive it and be like, Okay, 80 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: I didn't die. Like it was bad, but I didn't die, 81 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: and I'm still here and I still you know, I'm 82 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: still creating things and it's okay. So I've been an 83 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: influencer for five years now. I started in COVID. It's 84 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, coming up. Five years. I think that 85 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm sort of ready to start a new era of 86 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: my career, leaning more heavily into bigger projects like the 87 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: book and you know, it's being made into a TV 88 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: show and I'm an executive producer and these are things 89 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: that really interest me because I still love to share online, 90 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: but I'm just kind of looking to do bigger. 91 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: Deeper, deeper. 92 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wish that I was more business minded 93 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: like you, like, trust me, I think for thirty minutes 94 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: a day, what's my skinny girl? Like, I really do think, 95 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: because I would love to do a project of that size, 96 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: but I'm not. It's just not like that natural to 97 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: me business. I'm more of like a, Oh I have 98 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: an idea for a movie. Oh, I have an idea 99 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: for a show. I have an idea for a book. 100 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm leaning into. I'm trying to lean 101 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: into what I'm good at, and we'll see how it goes. 102 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: How old are you thirty four? 103 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still very very I mean I didn't become 104 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: I was broke until I was late thirties, and it 105 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: all sort of like comes together. 106 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: It's case law and so like. 107 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 2: You're just like sort of I took a bartending class 108 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: after college, and I went to acting and I then 109 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: produced large scale events where like the Emmys the Grammys, 110 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: and would coordinate all the food and beverage and the 111 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: lighting and the sound. All these things have somehow come 112 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: into my house renovation projects. 113 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: My ability to pull things to together. 114 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: I produce things like it's sort of all like converges 115 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: and then it gets concentrated, but you can sort of 116 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: be nimble and shift it. Like I wasn't planning any 117 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: of this a couple of years ago, like this was. 118 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: I was planning towards sort of semi retiring, just doing 119 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: what I wanted. This is comp I was talking to 120 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: my best friends since high school last night because we 121 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: were talking about hacks, and. 122 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, is that not me? In twenty years? 123 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be in a rollers voice, like negotiating 124 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: for a figurine in some store, But it actually isn't 125 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: me because I'm not like her or Joan Rivers, where 126 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: I define my life by the calendar and how full 127 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: it is. And I said, when the tables go cold, 128 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm walking out, like I'm totally cool. I'm only doing 129 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: this because the tables are hot. 130 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: No, you're doing it because it's working. It's fun and 131 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: like you're doing it and that's why it works. I 132 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: think it's like it's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. 133 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: That's why it keeps working is because you're like you 134 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: could take it or leave it. You're just exactly exactly, 135 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: and like that shows and like when people need it 136 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: too much, you can tell and people are like, eh, yeah, 137 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: So I think that's why it's worked and it's very cool. 138 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: Like I think about you all the time. I think 139 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: about how you know it came together for you. I 140 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: think about having your daughter all of that, Like it 141 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: does inspire me and I think about it. I'm always like, 142 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: last time I did your pod, you were like, oh, 143 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: You've still got so much time, And I'm like, I 144 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: hope she tells me that again, because I feel it's 145 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: a clock sticken. 146 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: No beyond beyond time. But also I feel like you 147 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: are there's a more relaxedness about you too. It feels 148 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 2: like you popped off. It was the biggest thing in 149 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: the entire universe. You leveled out. 150 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: You had like a rough moment which I messaged you about. 151 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like you're more comfortable in your skin. 152 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: Like you're just like this is what this is and 153 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to I don't know if they hit 154 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: a home run every day, but I and I could 155 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: get get banged up, but like we're here, like you said, 156 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: the store is going to open every day, and this 157 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: is like it just doesn't seem it's just an energy 158 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: and I could be totally wrong. You're just like, this 159 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: is what I want to talk about. This is what 160 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: I find interesting. As niche as it is. I'm not 161 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: forcing it, I'm not pushing it. 162 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. It just takes some time. And like, honestly, 163 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: in a weird way, like being canceled did kind of 164 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: level me out because I was so like I was 165 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: like breathing, like the la I needed everything. I needed 166 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: to go to every party. I was obsessed, I was 167 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: missing you know. It was just like it felt like 168 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: if it went away, I would die. And it did 169 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: go away for a couple months, and I like learned 170 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: who my real friends are and I really learned how 171 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: that all work. And then I came back and I 172 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: was like, you know, you kind of recalibrate and you 173 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: figure out what matters and you figure out how it goes, 174 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: and it's like it is a job at the end 175 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: of the day. It's like before I think, I was 176 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: like this is I breathe it. It's my life, Like 177 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: my phone is first like everything for the story and 178 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: now I'm like, it's a job. I love my followers 179 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: very much, I love making content for them, but at 180 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: the end of the day, the Internet, it's a job 181 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: and I'm going to do what I am going to 182 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: do and if people like it, that's great, and if not, 183 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: then that's okay too. 184 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting. 185 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: I just thought that you said that it leveled you 186 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: out because you didn't really know that the wolves are 187 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: always at the end of the bed. 188 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 189 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: I was talking to Tim dill in the Comedian about 190 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: this last night. Because I have no I really don't 191 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: have fear, but I'm not going to jump on the 192 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: sun for no reason. I've said things in my career 193 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: that like I could have said another way, like it 194 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: literally didn't need to be said, or just say it 195 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: a different way, or asked the question to other people. 196 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with fear. It's just like it 197 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: wasn't my hill to die, who cared? But the thing 198 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: that I said that could cause me so much problems? 199 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: And I fly very close to the sun, Like there's 200 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: something about politics I want to talk about today, and 201 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: like I'm thinking my team and be like, what the 202 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: fuck do you need to be doing? That now, but 203 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: like whatever, fuck it, I want to do it, so 204 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: I try to fly close. But I don't need to 205 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: be on the sun. But if things are going too well, 206 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: and it's not that I'm like negative or bet against myself, 207 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't. I get uncomfortable the way that you described 208 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: what you're going on in LA that sounds to me 209 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: like being on a very dangerous role, Clausch, I don't 210 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: like it. I was just invited to the derby to 211 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: do everything properly the whole entire weekend, and I grew 212 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: up going to the races, but like had to scrounge 213 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: for to get things, and like now it's like of 214 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 2: course like elite and VIP. I don't like it when 215 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: it's too much and too much of me, and when 216 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: it's too good and too liked, like I don't like it. 217 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm a comfortable because the wolves are at the fucking 218 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: end of the bed. 219 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that phrase where it's like the devil comes 220 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: for you at your highest moment, and it's like true, 221 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: it's like you're riding high, like everything feels amazing, and 222 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: then it's like boom, and it's like you kind of 223 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: have to not be always looking over your shoulder, but 224 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: like to your point, you kind of have to know 225 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: it's there and just be like okay, like it is 226 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: what it is. And that's why you need to do 227 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: exactly what you want. You need to pick the fights 228 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: you want to fight and leave the shit that doesn't matter. 229 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: But you're fearless, Like I think about you all the time, 230 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: like in your comments, like you're so funny. You just 231 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: talk right back to people and you're just like you 232 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: don't give a shit. You're just like you're like you'll 233 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. And I'm like, yes, like I'm dying for 234 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: it because you don't care. And and by the way, 235 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: that's why this is awkward. You're still here, no, Yeah, 236 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: because because very few people are just like, yeah, like 237 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: this is what I think, and it's okay to talk 238 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: about these things. We're all gonna be okay. We're very 239 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: much in a time where it's like people don't even 240 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: say their opinion anymore, which is why I think we've 241 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: gotten to this place, by the way, this extreme place 242 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: where everyone's like can't even have a conversation without qualifying 243 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: sixty things exactly. 244 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: That's so, and it's okay, and that's okay. Exactly. 245 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: You know, you can say like I don't like this 246 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: TV show. It's all right, and people are like, but 247 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: why did you do it? Right? Sometimes you just don't 248 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: like something. And by the way, I think that we 249 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: were all a lot happier when we were living in 250 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: a time when you could say I like that, that's 251 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: not for me whatever. Now we kind of find a 252 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: weird moralizing thing. But behind everything we can't. We don't 253 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: think it's proper to just say I actually don't like 254 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: that actor. He's not for me. Now, I was like, well, 255 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, twenty years ago he said this and he 256 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: had a dog that you know, blah blah blah, and 257 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: exactly just say you don't like him. 258 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: It's okay, Yeah, but it's couched in such bullshit because 259 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: we're supposed to use your voice. 260 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: You have a voice to use it. Shut the fuck up. 261 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: You can't use your voice. You have to be muzzled. 262 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. 263 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: Yes, And the thing is, there was a movie years 264 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: ago Sandra Bullock's speed when she had to keep the 265 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: bus at fifty five miles an hour, couldn't go higher 266 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: or lower, everyone would die. And that's kind of a 267 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: little bit what it's like meaning when you go through 268 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: something like a cancelation or something is really bad. I 269 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: don't know who I said this to, but you have 270 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: to hold on to the steering, but you cannot hold 271 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: on too tight. 272 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: But you cannot let go right. 273 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: You can't like go hide under a rock, but you 274 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: can't like go hard in the paint. 275 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: You're kind of just like. 276 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: You kind of just have to go through it. You 277 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: kind of just have to go through. And by the way, 278 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: when I was canceled, I thought, like all the people 279 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: that I was jealous of, I thought, they'll never get canceled, 280 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: They'll never get canceled. I made this little list in 281 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: my mind. You know, every single one of them has 282 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: been through some cancelationship. Yes, yes, nobody's safe. They're gonna 283 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: find something. They're gonna keep fucking deeper. 284 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: See, you know it's cancelation is so canceled. 285 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: No, it's not. 286 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: Cancelation is fucking canceled. Okay, but this is the bigger moment. 287 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: The amount you learned through something negative is so much 288 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: more valuable then like you need Like it's unbelievable. It's 289 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: something that I was just dealing with my daughter and 290 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: like it will define her. And it's like I thrive 291 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: on how to deal with something in a crisis with 292 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: all this relief work and all this stuff. Like I'm 293 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: just good in a crisis and I don't want to 294 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: have that experience. 295 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 3: Believe me. 296 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: It's not like I'm saying like I'm a I have 297 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: a death wish. I'm saying, but like when it clicks in, 298 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: it's a puzzle and I can always figure out how 299 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: to like navigate it, how to like drive on that road. 300 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: And it is a skill set and it's so helpful 301 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 2: for things in life that really matter, family matters, for 302 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: financial matters, health matters, whatever. 303 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: Like these things. 304 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: Are like you have to take a de breath, pay 305 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: attention to how you're navigating somebody, because there are many 306 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: ways to go and they all sometimes see my good ideas. 307 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: You think this, you think that the other thing, But 308 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: like I pride myself on being like making that right decision, 309 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: and that's because of a series of you know, difficult things. 310 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: So that's what's really good. Then you be like fuck it, Nope, 311 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: this is bad. We're all in fucking mode. Now let's go. Yeah, 312 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: what is the basis of what you were discussing over 313 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: all life. 314 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of what I talk about is 315 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: how to navigate this new era that we're going through, 316 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: navigate dating as best I can. 317 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: Again, I'm not an expert. I just have found a way. 318 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: What is that There is no expert. There is no 319 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: there's literally no expert. 320 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: But I have like the little tips and tricks to 321 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: like not make yourself go crazy, and and and then 322 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: also I just give like advice and people are like, 323 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: what qualifies you. I'm going to tell you something. Common 324 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: sense is not that common. I think that people call 325 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: my radio show because they think generally I have pretty 326 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: good manners and I can kind of figure out we 327 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: can do you have a good guation, Yeah. 328 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: And you could also have a good communication start. 329 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: I had wrote a book called Naturally Thin, and my 330 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: ex was like, you need to go become a nutritionist 331 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: to write this book. I'm like, no, I'm a person 332 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: that food noise exactly. I invented the term food noise 333 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: and people were battling me in my own comments about 334 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: food is like, yeah, hi, I'm the first person ever 335 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: used it. It was when the dinosaurs walkfy or some 336 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: other person regurgitated it. So shut the fuck up and 337 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: sit down. But the point was I wasn't a nutritionist. 338 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: I was a person that was noisy about it. What 339 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: d what not to eat? 340 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: I was good? I was bad, Like yeah, binged. I 341 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: So you're that of dating. 342 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, so let's get into the book 343 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: and the TV show and wow. 344 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it's fun. It's called Hotter in the Hamptons said 345 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: in one of your favorite places. It's a spicy romance novel. 346 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: It's an easy beach read. It's about an influencer who 347 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: has a spicy summer flaning. I did it because I 348 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: wanted to do something creative. I wanted to do something 349 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: that was like, I mean, there's parts of it in 350 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: there that are mee because obviously it's an influencer about 351 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: why not make her influencer? But it's creative, it's fun, 352 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: it's spicy. A lot of it is influenced by my 353 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: followers and the questions they've asked me. They a lot 354 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: of them have been like, I watch lesbian porn? Is 355 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: that normal? And I'm like, yeah, it's normal. A lot 356 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: of women have that fantasy, like of course, really, yeah, 357 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: So it was kind of inspired by my followers asking 358 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: me that and because she has a summer flame with 359 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: a woman. 360 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: And wow, Hotter in the Hampton's is the best name, yes, 361 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: ever And I wanted it to be like rich Mom 362 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: location like I had. 363 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: I have this whole idea for a series where each 364 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: book is going to be set in a new place. 365 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: That's all this. 366 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: I want to be in it. 367 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want to be in it. 368 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: I want to be in an episode. 369 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to write you into the next one for sure. 370 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: And it's going, Wow, that's amazing. 371 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so Hotter in the Hampton's And who's doing the 372 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: TV show and what's happening? 373 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: This is so exciting, so that you're going to be 374 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: a miss. 375 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: No, I'm going to be an executive producer though, which 376 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: is so exciting. My first time Foster sisters are in it. No, 377 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: they bought the rights, so they're going to make it 378 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: into a TV show. Yeah, So I'm so excited. I 379 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: can't believe it. I'm so like they are the moment. 380 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: They are so smart. I worshiped them. I thought their 381 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: show was ten out of ten. Last year, Nobody Wants 382 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: This was so good. 383 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,359 Speaker 3: And yeah, everyone was talking about Yeah. 384 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: So they I mean I still can't believe it, Like 385 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: I have the most fitting them, Like it's crazy. 386 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: But it totally tracks and it's a perfect trajectory for you. 387 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: Like this is like a real like Sex and the 388 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: City thing. It's totally on brand. Like the one who 389 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: was on the Housewives who did the Sex and the City. 390 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: I can't remember her name, you know she was on this, Candace. 391 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Candace ye? Yeah yeah right yeah. 392 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: So wait a second, So what happened? 393 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: You have an agent, and your agent packaged it and 394 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: pitched it. 395 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: Is that how it happened. 396 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, when we announced the book, we sent it to 397 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of different producers, and I couldn't believe it 398 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: that they wanted it and that they were doing it. 399 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: You had this idea when writing the book. You had 400 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: the idea to write a book and make it a 401 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: TV show. 402 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, like I thought maybe, I mean, it 403 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: was a pipe dream. I had no idea what actually happen. 404 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'll just see how it goes. 405 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: But I'm really thrilled beyond and I'm excited to just 406 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: do like this bigger project and work on something you 407 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: know that's going to take a year plus. It's like 408 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm used to making videos that are made in five 409 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: minutes and posted immediately, so it's. 410 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 2: No, yes, but you're very like smart and thorough and 411 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: like that's very that's like more meat on the bone. 412 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: How many episodes? And did it start shooting? And where's 413 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: it going to live? 414 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: We're talking to writers now. I'm loving every second because 415 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: it's just like it's so cool to be in these meetings. 416 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: It's so cool to have a seat at the table 417 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: and to just hear how it works. And it's really 418 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: like feeding me. I feel like I was ready for 419 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: like the next thing, and it's it's really doing that 420 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: for me. So I'm very excited. 421 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: But it's early, very on brand for you. It's very 422 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: very good. And the good news is that you can 423 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: use the shitty things that happen in the in the 424 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: book like it could. 425 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: Everything is content like Norah Efron. 426 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: Like of course that she gets canceled in the book obviously, So. 427 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I got. 428 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: Now. I got to read it when I'm hot in 429 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: the Hamptons because I remember that you were and you 430 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: have to have your tabasco salad dressing. 431 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we have to hang out this summer at 432 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: least once we have to get drunk in the Hamdas together. 433 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: One hundred percent you're off alcohol, but you're going to know. 434 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm back on but not crazy and I'm mean during 435 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: my saki era. 436 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: We could talk about it later. The Lord's work. 437 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: I love saki. 438 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to make saki mainstream. 439 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: Just wait, I love that. Just wait. 440 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: I've decided, and if I decided, it's going to happen. 441 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: If you decide, then it's going to happen. 442 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: If I decide that it's going to be the new 443 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 2: chicken salad, then it's going to be the new chicken salad,