WEBVTT - This Must Be The Place with Daphne Zuniga

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer did I'm Heeart Radio podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi girl, Hi BF, you look beautiful. By the way

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<v Speaker 2>I tried, you look great. I just curled my hair red.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not try, but I do have an update

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good, tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>The only reason I did try is for my I

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<v Speaker 2>just have been feeling meh me, it's the it's I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's the weather I have. I have an ambushing

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<v Speaker 2>period problem. So I'm on my second one in like

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<v Speaker 2>three weeks, and I think we may be perimenopausal. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna not jump to conclusions, but it's starting to feel

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<v Speaker 2>that way. Well, ask our friend Nate, because I went

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<v Speaker 2>and got blood work redrawn and I was like, in

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<v Speaker 2>my perimenopausal He's like, actually you're not. I'm gonna go again, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because I have done the testosterone cream shots or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I honestly just needed to do something with myself

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<v Speaker 2>today to just feel like a person for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>And even that is not much.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, it's it's interesting that piece because when you

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<v Speaker 2>just dry the hair and curl and put on makeup,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels different, and it does. I think it does help.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the only difference today is that I curled my hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally it's C C cream everything. But I just put

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<v Speaker 2>on beautiful another slashes look good. I mean, like you

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like you think makeup the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. I needed to do something.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when I got back from the honeymoon, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like that week of just like, didn't you know I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have my bag either, but in sweatshirts yea cozy,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know I'm coat pretty cozy right now. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I mean Amazon special, I mean I'm an atcha.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I'm gonna need a link. And I don't say

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<v Speaker 2>that too often, liken it today I do buy all

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<v Speaker 2>the things you usually post, the like facial stuff. Love it,

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<v Speaker 2>that face zapper thing, whatever that is, I really love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got I used your code. Thanks girl, just

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<v Speaker 2>say the words face left and I'm adding the cart.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there is something to be said. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I didn't have my bag, but drumroll please, I got.

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<v Speaker 3>My bag back, I knew you would. Is everything in it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think so it's been so long I forgot No,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean everything everything was in there. The bag's destroyed,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a bummer because I just got the bag,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's fine. But I got the bag back, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's totally fine. But everything came back. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh God, to curl my hair. And the

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<v Speaker 2>first time that I actually curled my hair put makeup on,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt great. So there is something to be said, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when you are feeling that kind of low to just

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<v Speaker 2>take a shower, brush your hair, put some little makeup

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<v Speaker 2>ontes ago, I was in a hoodie and still hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>put makeup on. Well, so I really wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>more presentable because I also feel the same way because

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<v Speaker 2>it's gloomy outside and I've felt just kind of gross lately.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was we've had because I got the bag back,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been like five million loads of laundry and just

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<v Speaker 2>like the kids stuff, and there's just I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>have like this little island in our in our closet,

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<v Speaker 2>and just it was getting stacked so high from stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't put away before we left, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>So then, like you know, count three weeks later, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like piling up. And Alan was gone at work, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I thought it would be sweet to just completely

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<v Speaker 2>clean the entire closet, put all of his stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>he had his side too. That was like piling up

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<v Speaker 2>and his bag that was still not unpacked.

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<v Speaker 3>So I cleaned it all up and hung it all up.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it feels good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's a lovely and I closed the doors

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<v Speaker 2>left the lights on, so when he walks in, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like a Harry Bradshaw mom.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't know yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I kind of want to be there for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's awkward, but organization makes my will go around.

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<v Speaker 2>And it matters to Preston a lot when I do

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<v Speaker 2>his side of the closet. Oh does it? So I've

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<v Speaker 2>never touched to Alan's side of the closet. It matters

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<v Speaker 2>because now I'm like, but my fear is what if

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't say anything, and then I'm going to be like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>put me in the megs and I'll make sure to

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<v Speaker 2>say something for you. Okay, I'll show you when we're done.

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<v Speaker 2>But it looks really pretty with the lights on. I

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<v Speaker 2>opened the windows. Oh, just to make it up fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my love wining o the windows. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>field looks great in there. No, it is interesting too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that right now I'm just in a little

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<v Speaker 2>like we're we're talking in summer school is starting or

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<v Speaker 2>trying to like, but we're I like to live life

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<v Speaker 2>a little proactive. You and I have talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, so my OCD planning A type self does

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<v Speaker 2>not like reactive worlds, and I live in a reactive

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<v Speaker 2>world a lot of times, just because of Preston's career.

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<v Speaker 2>So I even feel like getting dressed and like, but

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<v Speaker 2>a clean closet helps you do that, like organized spaces

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<v Speaker 2>help you feel like you don't You're not reactive, You're

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<v Speaker 2>not just last minute. Like even today it literally took

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<v Speaker 2>me ten minutes, but I thought, oh, like look at me,

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<v Speaker 2>look at me going to a podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>No one can see me.

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<v Speaker 2>But right it does feel you just feel more proactive.

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<v Speaker 2>A clean yaset you can go in there at any

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<v Speaker 2>point and know where your things are.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>And to that fact too, I had a moment where,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting back again, there was like like a

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<v Speaker 2>real true depression coming back from the honeymoon, just because

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<v Speaker 2>it was the most amazing time ever. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Alan went to Europe for five days and so we

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't get to see each other, and then when

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<v Speaker 2>we came back there was just been like just all

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<v Speaker 2>the back to school stuff and for sports the kids

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<v Speaker 2>are playing this fall, and so it's just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like getting back into the groove of things. And when

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<v Speaker 2>things are untidy, it gives me like I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>my desk right now, I'm like, oh, I got I'll

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<v Speaker 2>clean that up. But when things are untidy in my

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<v Speaker 2>sacred spaces like my room and the closet, it starts

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<v Speaker 2>to just feel a little claustrophobic and just a messy.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so with some of the work stuff that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing, I even texted Catherine yesterday and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I need to ask ask for an extension because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just my eyes are just it's weird, right. I

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<v Speaker 2>need to get back into the groove of things, and

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<v Speaker 2>I will, but I'm really tired. Now it's seven o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to do this campaign at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't do it a good job, and I'm tired,

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<v Speaker 2>and and I just am like and tomorrow, I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to clean my house. That is what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. It's just the best and I feel great now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, I'm ready. Yeah, Like we're trying. We

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<v Speaker 2>are full tilt Leo season, right, So there's two birthdays

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. It's a big one for Preston. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure how public he'd like to be about the facts

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<v Speaker 2>he's about to be fifty. But I just said it,

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<v Speaker 2>are we doing anything. I don't know when we can.

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<v Speaker 2>He's never home, Like I was going to fly the

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<v Speaker 2>kids to California. He's in California for like five days, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but it comes back on a Sunday or Monday, Tuesday maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just have to I mean, I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to go one leota time. I mean, I just sent

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<v Speaker 2>you an invite this morning for an impromptu party Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>I was decorating the the closet or I was clean

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<v Speaker 2>the closet, so I haven't actually read it yet. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just hours and it's all bro time and it's yes,

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<v Speaker 2>well you can stay longer.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do a cool time. But I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Legend six birthday dude camp. I'm just trying to back

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<v Speaker 2>it from Mayhem plus at the Adventures Neighborhood pooled fo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're just doing like a fun hear get friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Zero nutritional snacks plus way too much sugar. Per the birthday, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>please bring a towel, wear a swimsuit. No gifts please,

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<v Speaker 2>no gifts please, two hundred dollars lego set, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's actually only on your invite. No, it was kiddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just piecing it together, but I do or

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<v Speaker 2>just in the season.

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<v Speaker 3>It's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do, but I think we

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<v Speaker 2>have to do something. So he's not he travels, he

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<v Speaker 2>gets home we usually like on a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>What sucks is that he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Out with Kane Brown and he's got two really cool

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<v Speaker 2>shows and I wish I could get to one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, why can't you?

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<v Speaker 2>We have school co op school starts we do like

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<v Speaker 2>our orientation. We have our half day, then we have

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<v Speaker 2>our full day, and our first full day of school

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<v Speaker 2>happens to be on like on Preston's fiftieth birthday. So

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<v Speaker 2>and I've never when have you ever followed the grain?

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<v Speaker 2>Though I have, but I love it and and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that in a bad way. No, No, No, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I love, though, is for them to get and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm learning a lot about my son. More recently, we've

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<v Speaker 2>started play therapy like a therapist legend I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot in common. We do love a little structure, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I try to set at least the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>school season tone by getting in like a rhythm of things.

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<v Speaker 3>How many days as his school? Just two?

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<v Speaker 2>Should we do more or no? I thought about doing five?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually at the school behind our house. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>really beautiful public school. That's where our one friend found

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<v Speaker 2>with her son kind of the same thing he needed

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<v Speaker 2>the five days. The two days wasn't enough for his

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<v Speaker 2>energy and social like loves people, Yes, like love. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a perfect fit for love. Sure, we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to try and see where we get. The one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't like is because it's a perfect fit

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<v Speaker 2>for love. I don't love them having two completely different

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<v Speaker 2>experiences in that that creates something too. Then she's getting

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<v Speaker 2>more time with me, which we're learning my one on

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<v Speaker 2>one time with him is really sacred to him. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you ever do both of them in public private five

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<v Speaker 2>days a week school?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I do sometimes try it on in my

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<v Speaker 2>brain because could you imagine the productivity I would have?

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<v Speaker 3>Whats I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is this is a friend being because you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have time time and have a time. Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but right, but you can if you want. But you're

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<v Speaker 2>and I trust that we have beautiful, wonderful charts over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's always just been for a lifestyle. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so easy. But then you opened the door when you

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<v Speaker 2>told me that I can have more days off in

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<v Speaker 2>public school than I thought.

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<v Speaker 3>Mmmmmm m.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just say, your dreams. I understand. Listen, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do what you want to do, and I like,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever works for the mama, But you are the mom

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<v Speaker 2>that wants to also have has dreams and wants to

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<v Speaker 2>but when you don't have the time to fulfill those dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>And I understand the kids are young and this is

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<v Speaker 2>the only time you know their their childhood grow it

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<v Speaker 2>goes by so fast. Having said all that, I understand that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you are still very present, but you still have

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<v Speaker 2>your dreams. And maybe in two days a week, eight

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<v Speaker 2>thirty to two thirty is not enough time for a

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<v Speaker 2>mom because I also have a one year old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't, but again, do you know what works

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<v Speaker 2>for you? Guys, But if you want more time, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be a good option.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna talk a little one Tree Hill because

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<v Speaker 2>our girl Daphne Zuniga is in the waiting room, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's take a break and then get her on. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you watch One Tree Hill, Kristin no zero?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I actually have never known where did I know that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, I've ever been like about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've never So you have no idea my character.

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<v Speaker 2>Anly thing i've seen is you playing on stage. I

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<v Speaker 2>think did you sing a song on the show?

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<v Speaker 3>You did? Yeah? Yeah, it's one that people go crazy on. Hi,

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<v Speaker 3>you've never seen it?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, daf Hi, God, honey, Hi, we're chatting all things.

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<v Speaker 2>I just found out that my bff Christen over here

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<v Speaker 2>has never watched One Tree Hill. She has no idea

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<v Speaker 2>who Alex Dubray is. She has no idea about Sophia

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<v Speaker 2>Bush's Daphne played so Fiabiitha's mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Brooks mom. Listen to my defense.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm forty two, and I do think I just

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<v Speaker 2>missed the One Tree Hill window Like I have a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six year old like family assistant slash guru and

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<v Speaker 2>she knows a One Tree Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I just missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll let you slide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, listen I'm not opposed to binging you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but now I feel like it's awkward. Well, I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>my husband did never even watch the show up until

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<v Speaker 2>about a week ago because I had to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we might be chatting on a different podcast and I

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<v Speaker 2>had to maybe watch another episode. So you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was one of those where he was like, oh my

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<v Speaker 2>goodness watching back, and then it was like so fun

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<v Speaker 2>to watch back, have you because I never watched the

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<v Speaker 2>show either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I've been seeing it Jana, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>my second time on Drama Queens their podcast, and they

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<v Speaker 1>want you to watch the one that they're discussing. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, it's not awkward at all. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>with my husband now for seventeen years. He still doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even see some of the movies I've done. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know anything about what I do. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes that's like I don't mind it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I know that, you know, my husband loves

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<v Speaker 2>me for me and doesn't care. He's supported. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and so is my best friend. Yeah, if Catherine was here,

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<v Speaker 2>she she was obsessed with the show. That's why we

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<v Speaker 2>became friends. She stalked me and I'm kidding. Now that's

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<v Speaker 2>awkward at me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Well let me tell you something though, Janna.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted just to let your bff in on

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<v Speaker 1>something Janna was and I just learn well relearned this

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<v Speaker 1>the other day when I watched Scared uh seven oh one,

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<v Speaker 1>which was so the seventh season, it ran for nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the fashion show one, and you were

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<v Speaker 1>high hilarious. I mean, it's so different when you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the set and you're doing it and you're learning your

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<v Speaker 1>own lines and your own storyline. So I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to see all that was going on around my part,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Victoria, because I had seen here and a

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<v Speaker 1>scene there. Anyway, you were so funny, Janna. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember doing that episode with like you like, put this

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<v Speaker 1>girl out, give her some you know, drugs, this model,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're like painting a mustache on her and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're like, oh, it was hilarious and we had

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<v Speaker 1>a great interaction.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved our stuff together too. Yeah, because you're just

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<v Speaker 2>like you're you're you're dry, you're witty, you're and you're

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<v Speaker 2>just you're beautiful. So there's that too, But like you

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<v Speaker 2>were you were just a very strong, powerful, beautiful character,

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<v Speaker 2>and I yeah, I always loved being in scenes with

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<v Speaker 2>you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, she was very she was also a

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<v Speaker 1>very very difficult woman. So in this episode, which you

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<v Speaker 1>you should watch again, you're so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll watch it wann o one And.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I mean, she's really the story. You're like the

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<v Speaker 1>engine of the whole story of this wonderful fashion show

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<v Speaker 1>that we did. And it's a very poignant story as well,

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<v Speaker 1>which you're a big part of that too, uh Jana,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Dupray. Anyway, we have this moment where we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wone up each other with insulting each other. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>So Alex Duprey would say, like, oh, you called me

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, jeriatric or old or something. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>And I say, oh, oh, I hear you used to

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<v Speaker 1>make movies, so I insult you. You insult me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we come oh gosh, I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm gonna have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch it, and now we're never letting Alan watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do you still keep in touch with I know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've seen you at the one of the conventions

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, but like, do you personally keep in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with any of the castmates.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I did, for I'm on a text chain

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<v Speaker 1>with a few of them on those three, Hillary, Sofa

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<v Speaker 1>and Joy. But you know, Joy left town. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to see her once in a while, especially when her

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<v Speaker 1>child was younger. I used to see so now it's

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<v Speaker 1>more every now and then if there's a question or

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<v Speaker 1>something we want to, like just I want to touch space,

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<v Speaker 1>we do, But I feel like everyone's so spread out now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Rob Buckley was on it, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast the other day, and he's in another

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<v Speaker 1>state and so we're all kind of you know, life

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<v Speaker 1>goes on as you know, you're so busy and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's nice that I feel like if I ever

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<v Speaker 1>needed to or I just kind of feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a part of my past that's still I'm still connected

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<v Speaker 1>to and away and there's just lots of like mutual

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<v Speaker 1>love and respect. But we don't talk every day, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is who do Yeah? No, I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like if you needed someone like, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that they're gonna you know, be there to either be

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<v Speaker 2>help with you know, supporting things. But who did you

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<v Speaker 2>click with the most onset.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was soph and Joy were because I had

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<v Speaker 1>most of my scenes with them. Obviously, Sophia Bush played Brooke,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter, and and so we got close. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Joy as well. I had stuff with Haley, but

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<v Speaker 1>also we just we were we just hung out. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it was nice. So those are the two

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<v Speaker 1>that I can think of. And then obviously there was

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<v Speaker 1>people behind the scenes. Carol Catch All our wardrobe. I

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<v Speaker 1>hung out with her, and she was more she was

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<v Speaker 1>closer to my age. I mean, I'm like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>older than you guys, So it was I got to

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<v Speaker 1>like step in and hang out with you guys and

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<v Speaker 1>get sushi, go to the beach and stuff. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would feel like I was like all these I felt

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<v Speaker 1>young again. You guys helped me feel young again.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean coming from the Melrose Place set, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>was that was it kind of nice to be the

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<v Speaker 2>older because you know, when there was young, there was

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's happening on set because we were all young, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was already clicks formed, and you know, coming there

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<v Speaker 2>was people didn't like this person or that person, like

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<v Speaker 2>this person, and so it was it kind of nice

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<v Speaker 2>for you to come in as a veteran and be

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't need to step into any of this

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<v Speaker 2>drama and I can just do my thing, get my paycheck,

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<v Speaker 2>be kind, whatever, because I've already lived kind of that

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<v Speaker 2>piece on Melrose Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was very much that. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I started working in eighty three and I was nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I had all the eighties to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're learning on the fly, you're learning on

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<v Speaker 1>the job, you're experiencing this business while you're a young child.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went through that then, and then the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>when I did Melrose Place. I started that in ninety

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<v Speaker 1>two and so but it was more of the same,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're saying. And so when I stepped on

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<v Speaker 1>Montree Hill, yes, I was like, none of it is

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<v Speaker 1>affecting me the way it affected those guys, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I wanted to reassure or be there or

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<v Speaker 1>offer comfort or advice or my opinion on things, having

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<v Speaker 1>been through twenty thirty years in the business, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just definitely wanted to encourage and remind people when needed

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<v Speaker 1>or when asked, like life is long and it's all learning,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're amazing and the fact that you're here and

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<v Speaker 1>you know is a real feat and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be perfect, and we're still going. We're still human beings,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still learning as we go at every stage of

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<v Speaker 1>our life. But I feel like when you're on a

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<v Speaker 1>TV show, especially at a certain age, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>pressure to think that you need to be perfect or

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<v Speaker 1>sort of superhuman in a way, which is impossible. So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of I felt for people, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>felt it's a great actually combo to feel young again

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<v Speaker 1>but more experienced and wise from your years of living

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<v Speaker 1>and learning. It's a really cool combo. Actually, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of how I feel like if I was

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<v Speaker 2>to get on a set where I was the older

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<v Speaker 2>because again, I was in my twenties when I came

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<v Speaker 2>on a set that already had formed certain clicks and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't like this person, don't talk to this person.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like and I felt the pressure to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, look, I got to go on this

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<v Speaker 2>team because if I don't want this team, then this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So it's like but now I'm just like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to be the older person one day on

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<v Speaker 2>the set and just be like oh yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I'm just like just because it's just you

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<v Speaker 2>realize that it's not the end all be all, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and at the time that was like your life and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, no, my life now is being a mom

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, and just showing up doing my work

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<v Speaker 2>and supporting and doing what I love and not getting

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<v Speaker 2>into like the drama of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because when you're that young, that is your family.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're twelve hours of set, five days a week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit less if it's an ensemble like

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<v Speaker 1>One Tree Hill and Melrose Place back in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're not on in every scene, right, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing a two person drama, those are really hard,

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<v Speaker 1>but you see these people and you're in the dynamics

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<v Speaker 1>of that environment more than the rest of your life. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I mean, that's how I have always felt, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yes, how did you stay out of the drama

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<v Speaker 2>back in the twenties in on the melrose Place sets?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like that's got to be kind of wild?

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<v Speaker 1>That was wild and I didn't stay out of the drama.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell us really hard, you did watch Melrose Place,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't want it? And I actually looked back at

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<v Speaker 2>the dates of that and I'm like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I had any business at my age watching Melrose Place,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was when you set out your age, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hmm, I wonder if she saw Melris's Place.

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<v Speaker 1>But you must have been like.

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<v Speaker 3>Too young to be watching, like teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but TV back then also was even when it

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<v Speaker 2>was racy or wild or crazy, it wasn't pushing envelopes

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<v Speaker 2>like it is now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's easy, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we go back to the drama, So what did

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<v Speaker 2>you experience?

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<v Speaker 3>How was it?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you Well? First of all, everyone thought that

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<v Speaker 1>because on the storylines we're all betraying each other and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like befriending each other and then like just

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<v Speaker 1>as fast betraying each other and stealing each other's jobs

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<v Speaker 1>and boyfriends and you know, pushing each other in the

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<v Speaker 1>pool or whatever all that drama on set, they thought

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<v Speaker 1>that it must have been like that behind the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, it wasn't. It wasn't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But people, you know, there were, in fact in the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that we're doing now, I'll just bring that up

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<v Speaker 1>right now, we're talking about it still the place. So

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney Thorne Smith who played Alison, and Laura Layton, who

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 1>plays Sydney and myself. I played a character called Joe.

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:10.919
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing this new podcast and we're discovering because we're

0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:18.720
<v Speaker 1>about a month in just from our stories and our memories,

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.199
<v Speaker 1>and we've had a couple of the cast guys, the

0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>guys on as guests, and everyone's having these memories and

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 1>like do you remember when all the stuff and so

0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:35.199
<v Speaker 1>jog's all of our memories. So there was drama. Uh.

0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 1>But it also was the nineties and we were all

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 1>so young, so it wasn't just on the set. Like

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>I had my own life going on off the set,

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:49.679
<v Speaker 1>and that was interesting. But it's what you're talking about, Jenna.

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.639
<v Speaker 1>When you were on you're of the age where you

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:58.640
<v Speaker 1>cannot shut out the stuff on the set, and you're

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.919
<v Speaker 1>of that age where you're trying to find, especially on

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:03.960
<v Speaker 1>us ensemble, I felt like I was trying to find

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 1>We're all were trying to find our place, you know,

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>when there were these pressures from outside, like our show

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 1>got really popular, especially when how the Lochleyer came on

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and we were on all the magazines and you know,

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>traveling and all of this stuff. All of this, so

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot coming at you as a young actor,

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, So there was just you know, stuff going

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>on there and just a lot for the head. We

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 1>just had Andrew Shu who played Billy on and he

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>was talking to Courtney, who's one of the co hosts

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:44.120
<v Speaker 1>with us. So they met on the pilot and then

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>they fell in love in real life and I'm like, well,

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 1>how long did that take? You know, how when did

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you start dating? And she's like, I think episode three

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, wow, y'all moved fast a but I

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>guess you do when you're young. And so they started

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>dating in real life. This is all on the podcast,

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not saying anything out of school or private,

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.360
<v Speaker 1>but in fact, they started talking a lot about it,

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and then the characters then they broke up in real life,

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and then the characters kept dating. So I was like, well,

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>was that weird? Because that takes good acting, I would think,

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:30.120
<v Speaker 1>or at least I'm mature ending to a relationship, because

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine like Noah picking up and then having

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>to go And how.

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Old are we talking?

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 2>When you say like you're young on Melrose Place, Like

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.199
<v Speaker 2>how old is everyone? Because I'm like thinking back to

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:43.159
<v Speaker 2>even like younger thirties and I was a disaster, A

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>sweet disaster. I can't imagine throwing in the cameras, the drama,

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>the producers, this epic, crazy popular show.

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I was thirty. I turned thirty when I started,

0:24:56.480 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and then the others were younger, they were in their twenties.

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:03.239
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's so.

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 2>The girls that you're doing still the place with. Were

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 2>you guys actually friends on the.

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Show in real life? Yes?

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 3>In real life?

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yes?

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 3>So okay, yeah, yeah.

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>But we've stayed friends because we've had like reunions, you know,

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>because we've been around so long, Like they had a

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Melrose thirtieth reunion, we did Good Morning America. We've done

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>different reunions, and so we have each other's we're all

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:29.239
<v Speaker 1>on a you know, emails and texts and so we

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 1>have we'll get lunch once in a while. So we've

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>stayed and actually gotten to know each other more than

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>we did back then, because again, you're working all the time,

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't necessarily have a right ton of time to

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:41.719
<v Speaker 1>get to know each other off.

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Wait, dath, since you brought up them dating, did you

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I know you've been married for a long time. Any

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 2>of amazing husband, he's so supportive.

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 3>It's such a potster.

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I know it's empany, but did you ever date any

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 2>of your co stars or did you always kind of

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>stay out of that well?

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I so okay, So at an Hour and Talk and Dagny,

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that is the look we've been waiting for. It took

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>a while. Yeah, I hung out with I spent some

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>with what's a couple guys. Uh. But the funny the

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like I said off screen, So when I started the show,

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>I had a boyfriend, and I remember we must have

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>been just at the end of our like a two

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>year relationship.

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>We lived together because I brought him to like I

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know, a dinner or it's like an you know,

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>a celebration to start it or something. And then it

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't too long after I brought my next boys into it,

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and I just remember Thomas who played my and his

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>wife come up. They kind of like warner me. They're like,

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>is this this is a different guy than you brought

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>like last week? Right. I'm like, oh yeah, that ended.

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>They're like so he's like, oh yeah, this is new,

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, no we're together now. And I think that

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 1>one lasted a year and a half too, So I

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 1>was kind of what you call the serial monogamous through

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>all of the nineties and probably the yeah, a little

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>bit in the eighties, but it was kind of like that,

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>like it was just a series series of boyfriends. So

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to name names. You have that look

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 1>in you, like, oh, I know she won't know.

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 2>That's that's one thing I love about you, though. You

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>are a private and I'm I'm always like, tell me more. Yeah,

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>She's like, let's not record, but daphing you. So you

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>started young, right, you started at nineteen into acting, which

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 2>is really young. I mean, honestly, I can't even imagine.

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Did you know pretty much your whole life that's what

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 2>you were going to do? Like, did you know? Did

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 2>you kind of fall into it? Was it like this

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 2>is the dream for me? I can't imagine. Was it

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>high school? Middle school? Did you do theater? Like?

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 3>Tell me, how did you know you're calling? Early on?

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>So I knew my calling before I knew it was

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>a calling, and I did my first play at it

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>was in seventh grade. And before that I was doing

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>skits for like the neighborhood and the apartment building that

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>we lived in, and just you know, I'd range my

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>girlfriends to have rehearsals because I knew what that was

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 1>like after school and you know, put together skits. I

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>just was always in me to pretend and be imagined,

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, make things up and do it for other people.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And then when I started my first thing in junior high,

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I just never stopped. I went to a lot of

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>different schools and one of the schools I went to

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I was in tenth grade and they didn't even have

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a theater department. If you can imagine that. We moved

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>from the Bay Area to New England, this tiny little

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>school in Woodstock, and I said, you guys have to

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>have a theater department. They're like, oh, no, we play

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>sports here. We don't, you know, cause it's like New England.

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>They do a lot of sports. I'm like, I don't

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>know how to do field hockey, but we have to

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>have So I went to my English teacher and told them,

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and they started. They brought in a theater teacher. We

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>started a theater department. So then I started doing plays there.

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It was just something I always knew. Then I did

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Summer Stock after I graduated high school in New England,

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and then I came to UCLA to do to major

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>in theater, and I knew I wanted to be in

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>New York or LA. And my mom took me down

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to New York City to check out NYU, and a

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>guy flashed me on the West Side Highway driving. I

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>was in the passenger seat and my mom was driving,

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's.

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Like a full frontal well on.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how he was driving. And I'm seventeen.

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 3>What yes, I mean Logistically, it's mind boggling.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, honest auto cruisers something. I don't

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 2>want to stick shift. There's a lot of ways we

0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>can go here, but we're not going to.

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>So we're not. I'm going to, but I'm telling you,

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, life has its own way of guiding you

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>in some direction or another. And I said to my mother,

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going here. I freaked out, you know, and said,

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't care whatever happens in this audition for NYU.

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going here. I'm not living here. So I

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>chose to go out to UCLA. And when I was

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>in the housing department, I had just arrived for orientation

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was in the housing office, which is this

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>hallway and a bulletin board with all of these index

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>cards of where to live, and people would just say,

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I found an apartment, do you want to

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>live here? Because I didn't get into the dorms. I

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that organized, neither were my parents, so I didn't

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>know where to live. So this is again going to

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>how life gives you steps to take. And I'm standing

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>there with my dad looking at this big housing board

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>figuring out where to live. And this guy comes up

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to me and says, are you looking for a place

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to live? And again, I'm seventeen. It's our first couple

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>of days there, and I said yeah, and he goes, oh,

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I found an apartment, a two bedroom apartment. Maybe you

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>could find a roommate and I could get a roommate,

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and we could. It's a block off campus. And I

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>looked to my dad and I said what should I do?

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh, So I said sure, Okay. I

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>mean at least he was standing there in front of

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>me as opposed to all of these just blank these

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>cards and phone numbers.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>That turns out to be Darren Starr, who went on

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to create Melrose Place. So I lived with Darren for

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a year in this little dinky apartment off of campus

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>on Landfair. And then it was years later. You know,

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I got my I did eight years of movies. And

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>then Darren calls me because we had stayed friends, and

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>he said, you know, I'm introducing this new character to

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the show I'm doing, which I had never watched. But

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it was this perfect time in my career. I was

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>hating waiting in between movies of downtime. I hated downtime.

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>All I wanted to do was be on set or

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>on a play, just acting. And so he said, would

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you consider coming on? And I said absolutely? Do I

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>get to act every day?

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's so cool, that's incredible. I never knew that.

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 2>And of all the roles you played, and you've had

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>a really extensive career, I mean, to stay to even

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>get the chance to go into the industry that y'all

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 2>have been in is really statistically not sustainable, and then

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>to get in into sustain as long as you both

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>have I mean, you and Jana both have collected rules,

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and you've had a really great career. Who is the

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>character you think is most like you of all the

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>characters you've played or did they all kind of have

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 2>a piece of you? Are you a piece of them.

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>You know what's really cool is actually, again I love

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>how life kind of like art and life will feed you.

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>So I've gotten parts at a time when I wanted

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>to use that part to learn more about myself. Like

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I would get a part that maybe was more sexy

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>or sensual, or a part that was more confident, or

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>a part that was more and I was safe to

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>do it because it was someone else's lines, this character's

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>own psyche, her problems. I could do it sort of

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>behind but through that character, and that has happened over

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.959
<v Speaker 1>and over, and you know, as a result, I just

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like, this is what it's like to be Victoria.

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>The part on Montree Hill, I mean, she was so

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>angry and so mean to her own daughter. And I

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have children, but I found it really hard to

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:11.919
<v Speaker 1>embrace this woman in the beginning that was so mean.

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>In fact, my first day of shooting, they were like,

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the director was like, can you let's just do it again,

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>go more, be meaner, like say this line and just

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>get her so and then I found a way. You know,

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you access a part of you, another part of you

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that you're not used to in your daily life, that

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>has no issues asserting herself is kind of like doesn't

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>care how anyone reacts, and I just would have to

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>back up and like give that part Victoria justification for that.

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>So for five years on Montree Hill. It's not that

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like that all the time, but I accessed

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a part of me that I'm not in my real

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>life comfortable. So she grew me. She grewed me. I

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have to be there, but I now know what

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 1>it's like for a woman, you know, who acts that way,

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 1>who's worked her whole life, maybe had children instead of

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 1>a career, you know, whatever it was that I came

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>up with for her reasoning, I've done the same the

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>same thing on Marmor's place that I did for all

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>those years. It was like she was very confident and

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>not going and you know which I wasn't so much,

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 1>especially in relationships, and you know, I was more like

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I would get into these relationships to learn, I think.

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>But also I kind of like would put onto these

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>men like, oh they know everything. I'll just slip into

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>here and into his life and he'll do everything. And

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's not a mistake. What is right? We

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>all know? So anyway, sure guilty.

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Is charged, Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, speaking of the of

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 2>men though, I mean I remember because you've been with

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 2>David for how long seventeen years? Because I just remember

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 2>you were dating for a long time and even being

0:35:57.840 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 2>on the SAT while I'm on my third husband. I'm like,

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 2>why are you getting.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Married to me?

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>You should trobly get married.

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know, you wrote an article and Glamour basically

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 2>saying that you know you were waiting until later, And

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious, was that a career driven thing? Was that

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 2>just a personal decision?

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Like where?

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Like why why did you wait that many years? Like

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 2>just kind of curious abound that.

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Sure it was. It wasn't planned. I knew that whenever

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I was in a relationship, I would just kind of

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>get diverted and like my attention go into the relationship,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and which shil should I mean, you have to give

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to a relationship and nurture it. And so every time

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I did that, it just felt not me and and

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.479
<v Speaker 1>then I would be as I said before, I also

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>wrote an article years ago for Oprah magazine about how

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I would just be a chameleon and kind of want

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>to get into the man who his personality is. You know,

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I was dating one guy who played polo and went

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to Yale and you know, wore Armani suits, and so

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I got rid of all my hippie stuff and got

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>my own Harmani suit and my own and I would

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>go to the symphony with him and my next guy

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>after that, like I met on a Harley ride and

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>so like I started got my own Harley, and I

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got rid of all those Armani stuff

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and I got like grunge stuff. This in the nineties,

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>so there was like that grunge period. So I just

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.479
<v Speaker 1>would do this with every guy, and I just took

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.760
<v Speaker 1>me a long time to go. And when I finally

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>met David, I was in my forties. My life was

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 1>going fine. It was just great. I didn't the next person,

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:46.959
<v Speaker 1>or if I was going to be with someone, would

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>have to like add add to my life, because when

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you're in your forties and you have you know, a

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>career and your girlfriends, you know, you get that emotional

0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't really I didn't know where he was going

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 1>to fit he would have to add. And I met

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>David and I knew right away, Wow, this is a

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>real man, Like this guy is a He's a grounding

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.720
<v Speaker 1>wire for me. And he didn't know anything about the business,

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and in fact, he was across the country and had

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 1>been divorced for quite a while, four years at least,

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and he had still a son at home in Connecticut.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, how's this going to work? But

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it worked because we both kind of were at that

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>age where we didn't need each other to exist and

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to kind of we just amplified each other and it

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:46.839
<v Speaker 1>was like a quality thing. I don't know how else

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to explain it. I was ready because I knew myself

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit more and it's just been really great

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>because we started late, and then we were together for

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>twelve years. And then why didn't I get married? Because

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I had a fear. I definitely had a

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>fear of commitment. But then finally, I think my sister

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>was saying something to me, aunt to David, and then

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and I realized, you know, he's very traditional and he

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>had been married for almost twenty years and had a family,

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and I realized, you know what, I realized It was

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the one that it was like the adventure that I

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:27.439
<v Speaker 1>hadn't done yet. My brain was like, my brain was like, oh, no,

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>my wing, He's going to clip my wings. I'm going

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to have to conform and there goes all my adventure. No.

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I said to him once when I had

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>a moment, you know those you have these moments, I

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was overwhelmed with like fear, and I said, if you

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>think you're you're gonna clip my wings and I'm going

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to move to the suburbs of Connecticut, you have another

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>thing coming. And he said to me, I don't want

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to clip your wings. Here are my car keys. Go

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>do what you need to do and leave the car

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.799
<v Speaker 1>this station. And he told me where to leave it.

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, I believe him. He just

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>offered me. He just said, you know, well he's turned

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>out to like brush up my wings and support me

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 1>when I wasn't even believing in myself. So it really

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>has been an adventure. You know, I'd done the Central

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Pei this guy and that impossible one and this and

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that and the other thing, and I've done it and

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I realize, oh, the commitment is the one area that

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.439
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be an adventure. And it has been,

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's been, it's increasing.

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>It's so beautiful. That's such a good I mean, that

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 2>just gave me chills thinking about that. Too. It's like

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>even something we were just kind of going through. I

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 2>was talking with the girls about something that you know,

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like kind of freaking me out a little bit.

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's like we look at it as something that's

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 2>going to bring us down or that's going to be

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, yes, it'll be hard, but it's like you

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 2>look at it, it's like, no, this is an adventure.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>This is something that is going to make you a

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 2>better person. It's going to make you strong, or it's

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 2>going to make you you know, And it's like that's

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 2>just so great. I love that mindset of looking at

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>it like that.

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 3>I remember meeting my husband.

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 2>He's in music and he travels a ton, like he's

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 2>gone a lot of nights, like minimum one fifty two

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 2>hundred nights a year. And I remember this is my

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 2>second marriage, first marriage going like you know, I we

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 2>were together all the time, you know, it's just very

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>like nine to five all the things, and I didn't

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>know how I would do in this, but I knew

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 2>he was the person. I just didn't know how I

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>would be in that. And I'm so wildly obsessed with

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 2>my own time now and it's grown, it grows a

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>different level of trust. Even when you were saying that

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you guys were essentially by coastal. I mean that you

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 2>have no choice but to trust. When you're away from someone,

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 2>it forces you into it. And if you can't trust,

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 2>then you don't exist or make it. So I think

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 2>that's really beautiful that the first four years you got

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 2>that time to like learn each other differently.

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, trust was huge. It was such

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.919
<v Speaker 1>a huge thing I had to learn for years. And

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.800
<v Speaker 1>someone told me so many years ago, incredibly wise woman

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Gabrielle Roth, said. I said, how do I learn to

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>trust men? And she said, you don't. You learn to

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>trust yourself. Trust yourself. You can't control other people. So

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and then I also learned because I was in therapy

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>most of this whole time, and I learned I can

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>ask for what I need. So let's say you're he's

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a part, and you're like, and you're your wounds start

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>having away with you.

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 2>This is're ruminating. We call it common iral spiral ruminating reactive.

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>There we go, yep, because you know that's what our

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:52.439
<v Speaker 1>brains do. They need to have activity. So well, that's

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>not reality, that's that's me, that's in that perspective, So

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>what do I need? It has to I would say

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to him, David long distance, I said, once, you know,

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to court me, you need to send

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>me flowers. And because I hadn't heard from him, he's

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:15.279
<v Speaker 1>not good on text, he hated the phone and he said,

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it would be my honor to send you flowers. And

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I got flowers from the most beautiful florist in Beverly

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Hills like that afternoon. And sometimes I just need to

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>be asked. And the other thing I've learned is to

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 1>not come with my anger, figure out what it is,

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 1>and then force myself to come with the vulnerability. And

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what he can hear. So if I see to him,

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel you know, I get insecure or

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you know when you're not calling me or now I

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>have failed over and over at that because I definitely

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.439
<v Speaker 1>have had a very kind of like tough girl thing

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to protect that part of me. But but David isn't

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>amazing man, and he stuck through that time to to

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.399
<v Speaker 1>uh so that now I feel more safe to come

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>with the vulnerability. And I think that that actually is

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:13.320
<v Speaker 1>enhanced since we got married.

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Love that that's fantastic.

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, always ask for what you need, and then like,

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:22.279
<v Speaker 1>if you're feeling insecure, is your best friend? You can't

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.399
<v Speaker 1>say to your best friend, I hate to bother you

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and I can't believe I'm this age and I'm still

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>feeling this. Can you just give me a hug? Or

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>can you just call me once a day or just

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>for just a lot of times you realize once you

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>express it and your need is met and they do

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 1>their best to you know, because they'd want to take

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.880
<v Speaker 1>care of you, then that fear you realize it was

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>just in your head from.

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 3>An old time, old wounds, old wound zone times.

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's hard to be honest with someone else when

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 2>you can't be honest with yourself, though, So I think

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like really worth noting that you had to do

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot to get there, to even be able to

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 2>say what you need. I mean, that's really a lot

0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:02.240
<v Speaker 2>of beautiful work exactly instill the place. So it says

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:07.320
<v Speaker 2>we'll relive every hook up, every scandal, every backstep, blackmail explosion,

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 2>every week removal together, secrets are revealed as so you

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:16.800
<v Speaker 2>guys are rewatching. I'm curious because Lisa Rena played Taylor.

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 2>She's on the Roorehousewives? Do you watch the Housewives? Are

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>you gonna have her on? Do you still keep in

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 2>touch with her? Like?

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Who else are you are you wanting to have come

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:24.479
<v Speaker 3>on the show?

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:27.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't keep in touch with her. I did watch

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>The Housewives, yep, and she comes on later. So we

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>just started and we're dealing. We're just having on the

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>people who were on in the beginning, so got it.

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And I haven't even appeared. I come in in episode

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.760
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and we're like at eight, so really, and Laura Lighton,

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 1>who played Sydney, comes on a little after me. So

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>we're having two of the guys. We're gonna have Josie

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Bassett on. We're gonna have of course as they come on,

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:57.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, Heather, all the original characters. So when we

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>get to thoselater season, absolutely we want to have everyone on.

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>It's so fun when you have, yeah, people on because

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you just have that much more, that many more stories.

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Is there there's a reboot? Is it happening?

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>You've been developing it for a few years and it's

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 1>in the works. There are people with higher pay grade

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>figuring out above us. But yeah, Laura and I have

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 1>been producing that and putting that together for quite a

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 1>while and that's kind of all I can say. But

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely some things in the works.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you need a forty year old mom on

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>To cause some drama, yeah right, you're hearring, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, because you know that. The other thing with doing

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<v Speaker 1>a show like that, there was so much drama in

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<v Speaker 1>the script, like you would get the script every week

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<v Speaker 1>and just be like, what I'm doing? What did you read?

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<v Speaker 1>And it got that kind of out of your system,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Like right, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted after doing it on h on screen. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely need a troublemaker. I am sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, daff thank you so much for coming the show

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<v Speaker 2>everyone listened to still the Place on iHeart or wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to your podcasts. Yeah, Daphnie, you're the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Nice to see you too, to

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<v Speaker 2>see you, nice to meet you. Hopefully I'll see you

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<v Speaker 2>on one of the next cons or a movie we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do eventually. We'll eventually do the movie together.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll figure it out. Okay, all right, love talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you soon. Bye, all right, bye guy. Her perspective, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I love her. She was she was so nice every

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<v Speaker 2>time I, you know, worked there. But I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>that one scene she was talking about someone have to

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<v Speaker 2>go rewatch that. But I just love her and she's

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<v Speaker 2>she was always so so great. I'll be googling. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you won't, but I will.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I will.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got thirty minutes till the boy wakes up, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna speedate yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, I know that I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I have not gotten I saw Alan pop

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<v Speaker 2>his little engine. You've gotten No, I've gotten no text

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<v Speaker 2>about the closets, so we should go down and see

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<v Speaker 2>if he's opened it. I don't need to be involved.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love in surprises make me. Those are two

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite things. I was thinking i'd get like

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<v Speaker 2>a babe of the closet, but maybe maybe I say

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<v Speaker 2>something when we come down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stand by. We'll let you know what happens next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay tuned, all right, Bye guys,