Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer did I'm Heeart Radio podcast?
Speaker 2: Hi girl, Hi BF, you look beautiful. By the way
Speaker 2: I tried, you look great. I just curled my hair red.
Speaker 2: I did not try, but I do have an update
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: Oh good, tell me.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 2: The only reason I did try is for my I
Speaker 2: just have been feeling meh me, it's the it's I
Speaker 2: think it's the weather I have. I have an ambushing
Speaker 2: period problem. So I'm on my second one in like
Speaker 2: three weeks, and I think we may be perimenopausal. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna not jump to conclusions, but it's starting to feel
Speaker 2: that way. Well, ask our friend Nate, because I went
Speaker 2: and got blood work redrawn and I was like, in
Speaker 2: my perimenopausal He's like, actually you're not. I'm gonna go again, Okay,
Speaker 2: because I have done the testosterone cream shots or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I honestly just needed to do something with myself
Speaker 2: today to just feel like a person for a minute.
Speaker 3: And even that is not much.
Speaker 2: But well, it's it's interesting that piece because when you
Speaker 2: just dry the hair and curl and put on makeup,
Speaker 2: it feels different, and it does. I think it does help.
Speaker 2: Like the only difference today is that I curled my hair.
Speaker 2: Literally it's C C cream everything. But I just put
Speaker 2: on beautiful another slashes look good. I mean, like you
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like you think makeup the
Speaker 2: whole thing. I needed to do something.
Speaker 3: But I feel that.
Speaker 2: Because when I got back from the honeymoon, it was
Speaker 2: like that week of just like, didn't you know I
Speaker 2: didn't have my bag either, but in sweatshirts yea cozy,
Speaker 2: which you know I'm coat pretty cozy right now. But
Speaker 2: it's like, I mean Amazon special, I mean I'm an atcha.
Speaker 2: Actually I'm gonna need a link. And I don't say
Speaker 2: that too often, liken it today I do buy all
Speaker 2: the things you usually post, the like facial stuff. Love it,
Speaker 2: that face zapper thing, whatever that is, I really love it.
Speaker 2: And I got I used your code. Thanks girl, just
Speaker 2: say the words face left and I'm adding the cart.
Speaker 2: But I think there is something to be said. And
Speaker 2: when I didn't have my bag, but drumroll please, I got.
Speaker 3: My bag back, I knew you would. Is everything in it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so it's been so long I forgot No,
Speaker 2: I mean everything everything was in there. The bag's destroyed,
Speaker 2: which is a bummer because I just got the bag,
Speaker 2: but it's fine. But I got the bag back, so
Speaker 2: it's it's totally fine. But everything came back. So I
Speaker 2: was like, oh God, to curl my hair. And the
Speaker 2: first time that I actually curled my hair put makeup on,
Speaker 2: it felt great. So there is something to be said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: when you are feeling that kind of low to just
Speaker 2: take a shower, brush your hair, put some little makeup
Speaker 2: ontes ago, I was in a hoodie and still hadn't
Speaker 2: put makeup on. Well, so I really wanted to get
Speaker 2: more presentable because I also feel the same way because
Speaker 2: it's gloomy outside and I've felt just kind of gross lately.
Speaker 2: But I was we've had because I got the bag back,
Speaker 2: it's been like five million loads of laundry and just
Speaker 2: like the kids stuff, and there's just I mean, we
Speaker 2: have like this little island in our in our closet,
Speaker 2: and just it was getting stacked so high from stuff
Speaker 2: that I didn't put away before we left, right right,
Speaker 2: So then, like you know, count three weeks later, it's
Speaker 2: like piling up. And Alan was gone at work, and
Speaker 2: so I thought it would be sweet to just completely
Speaker 2: clean the entire closet, put all of his stuff because
Speaker 2: he had his side too. That was like piling up
Speaker 2: and his bag that was still not unpacked.
Speaker 3: So I cleaned it all up and hung it all up.
Speaker 3: Oh it feels good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a lovely and I closed the doors
Speaker 2: left the lights on, so when he walks in, it's
Speaker 2: going to be like a Harry Bradshaw mom.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know yet.
Speaker 2: Oh, I kind of want to be there for it.
Speaker 2: I know that's awkward, but organization makes my will go around.
Speaker 2: And it matters to Preston a lot when I do
Speaker 2: his side of the closet. Oh does it? So I've
Speaker 2: never touched to Alan's side of the closet. It matters
Speaker 2: because now I'm like, but my fear is what if
Speaker 2: he doesn't say anything, and then I'm going to be like, well,
Speaker 2: put me in the megs and I'll make sure to
Speaker 2: say something for you. Okay, I'll show you when we're done.
Speaker 2: But it looks really pretty with the lights on. I
Speaker 2: opened the windows. Oh, just to make it up fresh.
Speaker 2: That's my love wining o the windows. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: field looks great in there. No, it is interesting too.
Speaker 2: I think that right now I'm just in a little
Speaker 2: like we're we're talking in summer school is starting or
Speaker 2: trying to like, but we're I like to live life
Speaker 2: a little proactive. You and I have talked about this
Speaker 2: a lot, so my OCD planning A type self does
Speaker 2: not like reactive worlds, and I live in a reactive
Speaker 2: world a lot of times, just because of Preston's career.
Speaker 2: So I even feel like getting dressed and like, but
Speaker 2: a clean closet helps you do that, like organized spaces
Speaker 2: help you feel like you don't You're not reactive, You're
Speaker 2: not just last minute. Like even today it literally took
Speaker 2: me ten minutes, but I thought, oh, like look at me,
Speaker 2: look at me going to a podcast.
Speaker 3: No one can see me.
Speaker 2: But right it does feel you just feel more proactive.
Speaker 2: A clean yaset you can go in there at any
Speaker 2: point and know where your things are.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: And to that fact too, I had a moment where,
Speaker 2: you know, getting back again, there was like like a
Speaker 2: real true depression coming back from the honeymoon, just because
Speaker 2: it was the most amazing time ever. And then you know,
Speaker 2: Alan went to Europe for five days and so we
Speaker 2: really didn't get to see each other, and then when
Speaker 2: we came back there was just been like just all
Speaker 2: the back to school stuff and for sports the kids
Speaker 2: are playing this fall, and so it's just kind of
Speaker 2: like getting back into the groove of things. And when
Speaker 2: things are untidy, it gives me like I'm looking at
Speaker 2: my desk right now, I'm like, oh, I got I'll
Speaker 2: clean that up. But when things are untidy in my
Speaker 2: sacred spaces like my room and the closet, it starts
Speaker 2: to just feel a little claustrophobic and just a messy.
Speaker 3: I just don't like it.
Speaker 2: And so with some of the work stuff that I've
Speaker 2: been doing, I even texted Catherine yesterday and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm I need to ask ask for an extension because
Speaker 2: I'm just my eyes are just it's weird, right. I
Speaker 2: need to get back into the groove of things, and
Speaker 2: I will, but I'm really tired. Now it's seven o'clock
Speaker 2: and I don't want to do this campaign at the moment.
Speaker 2: I won't do it a good job, and I'm tired,
Speaker 2: and and I just am like and tomorrow, I just
Speaker 2: want to clean my house. That is what I want
Speaker 2: to do. It's just the best and I feel great now.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I'm ready. Yeah, Like we're trying. We
Speaker 2: are full tilt Leo season, right, So there's two birthdays
Speaker 2: coming up. It's a big one for Preston. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure how public he'd like to be about the facts
Speaker 2: he's about to be fifty. But I just said it,
Speaker 2: are we doing anything. I don't know when we can.
Speaker 2: He's never home, Like I was going to fly the
Speaker 2: kids to California. He's in California for like five days, okay,
Speaker 2: but it comes back on a Sunday or Monday, Tuesday maybe,
Speaker 2: so I just have to I mean, I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to go one leota time. I mean, I just sent
Speaker 2: you an invite this morning for an impromptu party Sunday.
Speaker 2: I was decorating the the closet or I was clean
Speaker 2: the closet, so I haven't actually read it yet. It's
Speaker 2: just hours and it's all bro time and it's yes,
Speaker 2: well you can stay longer.
Speaker 3: We'll do a cool time. But I just.
Speaker 2: Legend six birthday dude camp. I'm just trying to back
Speaker 2: it from Mayhem plus at the Adventures Neighborhood pooled fo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just doing like a fun hear get friend.
Speaker 2: Zero nutritional snacks plus way too much sugar. Per the birthday, boy,
Speaker 2: please bring a towel, wear a swimsuit. No gifts please,
Speaker 2: no gifts please, two hundred dollars lego set, I know
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 3: Well, that's actually only on your invite. No, it was kiddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just piecing it together, but I do or
Speaker 2: just in the season.
Speaker 3: It's wild.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, but I think we
Speaker 2: have to do something. So he's not he travels, he
Speaker 2: gets home we usually like on a Sunday.
Speaker 3: What sucks is that he's.
Speaker 2: Out with Kane Brown and he's got two really cool
Speaker 2: shows and I wish I could get to one.
Speaker 3: Well, why can't you?
Speaker 2: We have school co op school starts we do like
Speaker 2: our orientation. We have our half day, then we have
Speaker 2: our full day, and our first full day of school
Speaker 2: happens to be on like on Preston's fiftieth birthday. So
Speaker 2: and I've never when have you ever followed the grain?
Speaker 2: Though I have, but I love it and and I
Speaker 2: mean that in a bad way. No, No, No, I know.
Speaker 2: What I love, though, is for them to get and
Speaker 2: I'm learning a lot about my son. More recently, we've
Speaker 2: started play therapy like a therapist legend I have a
Speaker 2: lot in common. We do love a little structure, and
Speaker 2: so I try to set at least the beginning of
Speaker 2: school season tone by getting in like a rhythm of things.
Speaker 3: How many days as his school? Just two?
Speaker 2: Should we do more or no? I thought about doing five?
Speaker 2: Actually at the school behind our house. We have a
Speaker 2: really beautiful public school. That's where our one friend found
Speaker 2: with her son kind of the same thing he needed
Speaker 2: the five days. The two days wasn't enough for his
Speaker 2: energy and social like loves people, Yes, like love. This
Speaker 2: is a perfect fit for love. Sure, we are going
Speaker 2: to try and see where we get. The one thing
Speaker 2: that I don't like is because it's a perfect fit
Speaker 2: for love. I don't love them having two completely different
Speaker 2: experiences in that that creates something too. Then she's getting
Speaker 2: more time with me, which we're learning my one on
Speaker 2: one time with him is really sacred to him. Would
Speaker 2: you ever do both of them in public private five
Speaker 2: days a week school?
Speaker 3: Probably not.
Speaker 2: I mean I do sometimes try it on in my
Speaker 2: brain because could you imagine the productivity I would have?
Speaker 3: Whats I'm saying?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: And this is this is a friend being because you're like,
Speaker 2: I don't have time time and have a time. Well yeah,
Speaker 2: but right, but you can if you want. But you're
Speaker 2: and I trust that we have beautiful, wonderful charts over there.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's always just been for a lifestyle. It's
Speaker 2: so easy. But then you opened the door when you
Speaker 2: told me that I can have more days off in
Speaker 2: public school than I thought.
Speaker 3: Mmmmmm m.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just say, your dreams. I understand. Listen, you're
Speaker 2: going to do what you want to do, and I like,
Speaker 2: whatever works for the mama, But you are the mom
Speaker 2: that wants to also have has dreams and wants to
Speaker 2: but when you don't have the time to fulfill those dreams.
Speaker 2: And I understand the kids are young and this is
Speaker 2: the only time you know their their childhood grow it
Speaker 2: goes by so fast. Having said all that, I understand that,
Speaker 2: and you are still very present, but you still have
Speaker 2: your dreams. And maybe in two days a week, eight
Speaker 2: thirty to two thirty is not enough time for a
Speaker 2: mom because I also have a one year old. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I don't, but again, do you know what works
Speaker 2: for you? Guys, But if you want more time, it
Speaker 2: might be a good option.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna talk a little one Tree Hill because
Speaker 2: our girl Daphne Zuniga is in the waiting room, so
Speaker 2: it's take a break and then get her on. Did
Speaker 2: you watch One Tree Hill, Kristin no zero?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually have never known where did I know that?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I've ever been like about it,
Speaker 2: but I've never So you have no idea my character.
Speaker 2: Anly thing i've seen is you playing on stage. I
Speaker 2: think did you sing a song on the show?
Speaker 3: You did? Yeah? Yeah, it's one that people go crazy on. Hi,
Speaker 3: you've never seen it?
Speaker 2: Hi, daf Hi, God, honey, Hi, we're chatting all things.
Speaker 2: I just found out that my bff Christen over here
Speaker 2: has never watched One Tree Hill. She has no idea
Speaker 2: who Alex Dubray is. She has no idea about Sophia
Speaker 2: Bush's Daphne played so Fiabiitha's mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brooks mom. Listen to my defense.
Speaker 2: So I'm forty two, and I do think I just
Speaker 2: missed the One Tree Hill window Like I have a
Speaker 2: twenty six year old like family assistant slash guru and
Speaker 2: she knows a One Tree Hill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I just missed it.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll let you slide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen I'm not opposed to binging you guys,
Speaker 2: but now I feel like it's awkward. Well, I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: my husband did never even watch the show up until
Speaker 2: about a week ago because I had to, you know,
Speaker 2: we might be chatting on a different podcast and I
Speaker 2: had to maybe watch another episode. So you know, it
Speaker 2: was one of those where he was like, oh my
Speaker 2: goodness watching back, and then it was like so fun
Speaker 2: to watch back, have you because I never watched the
Speaker 2: show either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I've been seeing it Jana, because this is
Speaker 1: my second time on Drama Queens their podcast, and they
Speaker 1: want you to watch the one that they're discussing. And so,
Speaker 1: first of all, it's not awkward at all. I've been
Speaker 1: with my husband now for seventeen years. He still doesn't
Speaker 1: even see some of the movies I've done. He doesn't
Speaker 1: he doesn't know anything about what I do. So it's
Speaker 1: not awkward.
Speaker 2: And sometimes that's like I don't mind it, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know that, you know, my husband loves
Speaker 2: me for me and doesn't care. He's supported. But yes,
Speaker 2: and so is my best friend. Yeah, if Catherine was here,
Speaker 2: she she was obsessed with the show. That's why we
Speaker 2: became friends. She stalked me and I'm kidding. Now that's
Speaker 2: awkward at me.
Speaker 1: You know. Well let me tell you something though, Janna.
Speaker 1: I just wanted just to let your bff in on
Speaker 1: something Janna was and I just learn well relearned this
Speaker 1: the other day when I watched Scared uh seven oh one,
Speaker 1: which was so the seventh season, it ran for nine,
Speaker 1: and it was the fashion show one, and you were
Speaker 1: high hilarious. I mean, it's so different when you're on
Speaker 1: the set and you're doing it and you're learning your
Speaker 1: own lines and your own storyline. So I didn't get
Speaker 1: to see all that was going on around my part,
Speaker 1: you know, Victoria, because I had seen here and a
Speaker 1: scene there. Anyway, you were so funny, Janna. Do you
Speaker 1: remember doing that episode with like you like, put this
Speaker 1: girl out, give her some you know, drugs, this model,
Speaker 1: and then you're like painting a mustache on her and
Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, it was hilarious and we had
Speaker 1: a great interaction.
Speaker 2: I loved our stuff together too. Yeah, because you're just
Speaker 2: like you're you're you're dry, you're witty, you're and you're
Speaker 2: just you're beautiful. So there's that too, But like you
Speaker 2: were you were just a very strong, powerful, beautiful character,
Speaker 2: and I yeah, I always loved being in scenes with
Speaker 2: you too.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, she was very she was also a
Speaker 1: very very difficult woman. So in this episode, which you
Speaker 1: you should watch again, you're so funny.
Speaker 3: I'll watch it wann o one And.
Speaker 1: Uh, I mean, she's really the story. You're like the
Speaker 1: engine of the whole story of this wonderful fashion show
Speaker 1: that we did. And it's a very poignant story as well,
Speaker 1: which you're a big part of that too, uh Jana,
Speaker 1: Alex Dupray. Anyway, we have this moment where we kind
Speaker 1: of wone up each other with insulting each other. Uh
Speaker 1: So Alex Duprey would say, like, oh, you called me
Speaker 1: I don't know, jeriatric or old or something. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: And I say, oh, oh, I hear you used to
Speaker 1: make movies, so I insult you. You insult me.
Speaker 3: And then we come oh gosh, I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 3: Watch it, and now we're never letting Alan watch it.
Speaker 2: Do you do you still keep in touch with I know,
Speaker 2: like I've seen you at the one of the conventions
Speaker 2: and stuff, but like, do you personally keep in touch
Speaker 2: with any of the castmates.
Speaker 1: You know, I did, for I'm on a text chain
Speaker 1: with a few of them on those three, Hillary, Sofa
Speaker 1: and Joy. But you know, Joy left town. I used
Speaker 1: to see her once in a while, especially when her
Speaker 1: child was younger. I used to see so now it's
Speaker 1: more every now and then if there's a question or
Speaker 1: something we want to, like just I want to touch space,
Speaker 1: we do, But I feel like everyone's so spread out now.
Speaker 1: I mean Rob Buckley was on it, and he was
Speaker 1: on the podcast the other day, and he's in another
Speaker 1: state and so we're all kind of you know, life
Speaker 1: goes on as you know, you're so busy and everything.
Speaker 1: So it's nice that I feel like if I ever
Speaker 1: needed to or I just kind of feel like it's
Speaker 1: a part of my past that's still I'm still connected
Speaker 1: to and away and there's just lots of like mutual
Speaker 1: love and respect. But we don't talk every day, which.
Speaker 3: Is who do Yeah? No, I get that.
Speaker 2: And it's like if you needed someone like, you know
Speaker 2: that they're gonna you know, be there to either be
Speaker 2: help with you know, supporting things. But who did you
Speaker 2: click with the most onset.
Speaker 1: Well, it was soph and Joy were because I had
Speaker 1: most of my scenes with them. Obviously, Sophia Bush played Brooke,
Speaker 1: my daughter, and and so we got close. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then Joy as well. I had stuff with Haley, but
Speaker 1: also we just we were we just hung out. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it was nice. So those are the two
Speaker 1: that I can think of. And then obviously there was
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes. Carol Catch All our wardrobe. I
Speaker 1: hung out with her, and she was more she was
Speaker 1: closer to my age. I mean, I'm like a lot
Speaker 1: older than you guys, So it was I got to
Speaker 1: like step in and hang out with you guys and
Speaker 1: get sushi, go to the beach and stuff. But I
Speaker 1: would feel like I was like all these I felt
Speaker 1: young again. You guys helped me feel young again.
Speaker 2: But I mean coming from the Melrose Place set, I mean,
Speaker 2: was that was it kind of nice to be the
Speaker 2: older because you know, when there was young, there was
Speaker 2: stuff that's happening on set because we were all young, and
Speaker 2: there was already clicks formed, and you know, coming there
Speaker 2: was people didn't like this person or that person, like
Speaker 2: this person, and so it was it kind of nice
Speaker 2: for you to come in as a veteran and be
Speaker 2: like I don't need to step into any of this
Speaker 2: drama and I can just do my thing, get my paycheck,
Speaker 2: be kind, whatever, because I've already lived kind of that
Speaker 2: piece on Melrose Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was very much that. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I started working in eighty three and I was nineteen,
Speaker 1: and so I had all the eighties to go through.
Speaker 1: You know, you're learning on the fly, you're learning on
Speaker 1: the job, you're experiencing this business while you're a young child.
Speaker 1: So I went through that then, and then the nineties
Speaker 1: when I did Melrose Place. I started that in ninety
Speaker 1: two and so but it was more of the same,
Speaker 1: exactly what you're saying. And so when I stepped on
Speaker 1: Montree Hill, yes, I was like, none of it is
Speaker 1: affecting me the way it affected those guys, for sure.
Speaker 1: And then I wanted to reassure or be there or
Speaker 1: offer comfort or advice or my opinion on things, having
Speaker 1: been through twenty thirty years in the business, so I
Speaker 1: just definitely wanted to encourage and remind people when needed
Speaker 1: or when asked, like life is long and it's all learning,
Speaker 1: and you're amazing and the fact that you're here and
Speaker 1: you know is a real feat and you don't have
Speaker 1: to be perfect, and we're still going. We're still human beings,
Speaker 1: we're still learning as we go at every stage of
Speaker 1: our life. But I feel like when you're on a
Speaker 1: TV show, especially at a certain age, there is a
Speaker 1: pressure to think that you need to be perfect or
Speaker 1: sort of superhuman in a way, which is impossible. So
Speaker 1: I kind of I felt for people, and so I
Speaker 1: felt it's a great actually combo to feel young again
Speaker 1: but more experienced and wise from your years of living
Speaker 1: and learning. It's a really cool combo. Actually, for sure.
Speaker 2: That's kind of how I feel like if I was
Speaker 2: to get on a set where I was the older
Speaker 2: because again, I was in my twenties when I came
Speaker 2: on a set that already had formed certain clicks and
Speaker 2: we don't like this person, don't talk to this person.
Speaker 2: So it was like and I felt the pressure to
Speaker 2: be like, oh, look, I got to go on this
Speaker 2: team because if I don't want this team, then this,
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like but now I'm just like
Speaker 2: I'm excited to be the older person one day on
Speaker 2: the set and just be like oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and like I'm just like just because it's just you
Speaker 2: realize that it's not the end all be all, you know,
Speaker 2: and at the time that was like your life and
Speaker 2: it's like, no, my life now is being a mom
Speaker 2: and you know, and just showing up doing my work
Speaker 2: and supporting and doing what I love and not getting
Speaker 2: into like the drama of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when you're that young, that is your family.
Speaker 1: You know, you're twelve hours of set, five days a week.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit less if it's an ensemble like
Speaker 1: One Tree Hill and Melrose Place back in the nineties,
Speaker 1: Like you're not on in every scene, right, Like if
Speaker 1: you were doing a two person drama, those are really hard,
Speaker 1: but you see these people and you're in the dynamics
Speaker 1: of that environment more than the rest of your life. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's how I have always felt, you know.
Speaker 2: So, yes, how did you stay out of the drama
Speaker 2: back in the twenties in on the melrose Place sets?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like that's got to be kind of wild?
Speaker 1: That was wild and I didn't stay out of the drama.
Speaker 2: I tell us really hard, you did watch Melrose Place,
Speaker 2: I won't want it? And I actually looked back at
Speaker 2: the dates of that and I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 2: I had any business at my age watching Melrose Place,
Speaker 2: but I did love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was when you set out your age, I
Speaker 1: was like, hmm, I wonder if she saw Melris's Place.
Speaker 1: But you must have been like.
Speaker 3: Too young to be watching, like teenager.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but TV back then also was even when it
Speaker 2: was racy or wild or crazy, it wasn't pushing envelopes
Speaker 2: like it is now.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's easy, you know.
Speaker 2: Can we go back to the drama, So what did
Speaker 2: you experience?
Speaker 3: How was it?
Speaker 1: How did you Well? First of all, everyone thought that
Speaker 1: because on the storylines we're all betraying each other and
Speaker 1: you know, like befriending each other and then like just
Speaker 1: as fast betraying each other and stealing each other's jobs
Speaker 1: and boyfriends and you know, pushing each other in the
Speaker 1: pool or whatever all that drama on set, they thought
Speaker 1: that it must have been like that behind the scene,
Speaker 1: for the most part, it wasn't. It wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: But people, you know, there were, in fact in the
Speaker 1: podcast that we're doing now, I'll just bring that up
Speaker 1: right now, we're talking about it still the place. So
Speaker 1: Courtney Thorne Smith who played Alison, and Laura Layton, who
Speaker 1: plays Sydney and myself. I played a character called Joe.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We're doing this new podcast and we're discovering because we're
Speaker 1: about a month in just from our stories and our memories,
Speaker 1: and we've had a couple of the cast guys, the
Speaker 1: guys on as guests, and everyone's having these memories and
Speaker 1: like do you remember when all the stuff and so
Speaker 1: jog's all of our memories. So there was drama. Uh.
Speaker 1: But it also was the nineties and we were all
Speaker 1: so young, so it wasn't just on the set. Like
Speaker 1: I had my own life going on off the set,
Speaker 1: and that was interesting. But it's what you're talking about, Jenna.
Speaker 1: When you were on you're of the age where you
Speaker 1: cannot shut out the stuff on the set, and you're
Speaker 1: of that age where you're trying to find, especially on
Speaker 1: us ensemble, I felt like I was trying to find
Speaker 1: We're all were trying to find our place, you know,
Speaker 1: when there were these pressures from outside, like our show
Speaker 1: got really popular, especially when how the Lochleyer came on
Speaker 1: and we were on all the magazines and you know,
Speaker 1: traveling and all of this stuff. All of this, so
Speaker 1: there was a lot coming at you as a young actor,
Speaker 1: you know, So there was just you know, stuff going
Speaker 1: on there and just a lot for the head. We
Speaker 1: just had Andrew Shu who played Billy on and he
Speaker 1: was talking to Courtney, who's one of the co hosts
Speaker 1: with us. So they met on the pilot and then
Speaker 1: they fell in love in real life and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: how long did that take? You know, how when did
Speaker 1: you start dating? And she's like, I think episode three
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, y'all moved fast a but I
Speaker 1: guess you do when you're young. And so they started
Speaker 1: dating in real life. This is all on the podcast,
Speaker 1: so I'm not saying anything out of school or private,
Speaker 1: but in fact, they started talking a lot about it,
Speaker 1: and then the characters then they broke up in real life,
Speaker 1: and then the characters kept dating. So I was like, well,
Speaker 1: was that weird? Because that takes good acting, I would think,
Speaker 1: or at least I'm mature ending to a relationship, because
Speaker 1: can you imagine like Noah picking up and then having
Speaker 1: to go And how.
Speaker 3: Old are we talking?
Speaker 2: When you say like you're young on Melrose Place, Like
Speaker 2: how old is everyone? Because I'm like thinking back to
Speaker 2: even like younger thirties and I was a disaster, A
Speaker 2: sweet disaster. I can't imagine throwing in the cameras, the drama,
Speaker 2: the producers, this epic, crazy popular show.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was thirty. I turned thirty when I started,
Speaker 1: and then the others were younger, they were in their twenties.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's so.
Speaker 2: The girls that you're doing still the place with. Were
Speaker 2: you guys actually friends on the.
Speaker 1: Show in real life? Yes?
Speaker 3: In real life?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But we've stayed friends because we've had like reunions, you know,
Speaker 1: because we've been around so long, Like they had a
Speaker 1: Melrose thirtieth reunion, we did Good Morning America. We've done
Speaker 1: different reunions, and so we have each other's we're all
Speaker 1: on a you know, emails and texts and so we
Speaker 1: have we'll get lunch once in a while. So we've
Speaker 1: stayed and actually gotten to know each other more than
Speaker 1: we did back then, because again, you're working all the time,
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have a right ton of time to
Speaker 1: get to know each other off.
Speaker 2: Wait, dath, since you brought up them dating, did you
Speaker 2: I know you've been married for a long time. Any
Speaker 2: of amazing husband, he's so supportive.
Speaker 3: It's such a potster.
Speaker 2: I know it's empany, but did you ever date any
Speaker 2: of your co stars or did you always kind of
Speaker 2: stay out of that well?
Speaker 1: I so okay, So at an Hour and Talk and Dagny,
Speaker 1: that is the look we've been waiting for. It took
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, I hung out with I spent some
Speaker 1: with what's a couple guys. Uh. But the funny the
Speaker 1: like I said off screen, So when I started the show,
Speaker 1: I had a boyfriend, and I remember we must have
Speaker 1: been just at the end of our like a two
Speaker 1: year relationship.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We lived together because I brought him to like I
Speaker 1: don't know, a dinner or it's like an you know,
Speaker 1: a celebration to start it or something. And then it
Speaker 1: wasn't too long after I brought my next boys into it,
Speaker 1: and I just remember Thomas who played my and his
Speaker 1: wife come up. They kind of like warner me. They're like,
Speaker 1: is this this is a different guy than you brought
Speaker 1: like last week? Right. I'm like, oh yeah, that ended.
Speaker 1: They're like so he's like, oh yeah, this is new,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no we're together now. And I think that
Speaker 1: one lasted a year and a half too, So I
Speaker 1: was kind of what you call the serial monogamous through
Speaker 1: all of the nineties and probably the yeah, a little
Speaker 1: bit in the eighties, but it was kind of like that,
Speaker 1: like it was just a series series of boyfriends. So
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name names. You have that look
Speaker 1: in you, like, oh, I know she won't know.
Speaker 2: That's that's one thing I love about you, though. You
Speaker 2: are a private and I'm I'm always like, tell me more. Yeah,
Speaker 2: She's like, let's not record, but daphing you. So you
Speaker 2: started young, right, you started at nineteen into acting, which
Speaker 2: is really young. I mean, honestly, I can't even imagine.
Speaker 2: Did you know pretty much your whole life that's what
Speaker 2: you were going to do? Like, did you know? Did
Speaker 2: you kind of fall into it? Was it like this
Speaker 2: is the dream for me? I can't imagine. Was it
Speaker 2: high school? Middle school? Did you do theater? Like?
Speaker 3: Tell me, how did you know you're calling? Early on?
Speaker 1: So I knew my calling before I knew it was
Speaker 1: a calling, and I did my first play at it
Speaker 1: was in seventh grade. And before that I was doing
Speaker 1: skits for like the neighborhood and the apartment building that
Speaker 1: we lived in, and just you know, I'd range my
Speaker 1: girlfriends to have rehearsals because I knew what that was
Speaker 1: like after school and you know, put together skits. I
Speaker 1: just was always in me to pretend and be imagined,
Speaker 1: you know, make things up and do it for other people.
Speaker 1: And then when I started my first thing in junior high,
Speaker 1: I just never stopped. I went to a lot of
Speaker 1: different schools and one of the schools I went to
Speaker 1: I was in tenth grade and they didn't even have
Speaker 1: a theater department. If you can imagine that. We moved
Speaker 1: from the Bay Area to New England, this tiny little
Speaker 1: school in Woodstock, and I said, you guys have to
Speaker 1: have a theater department. They're like, oh, no, we play
Speaker 1: sports here. We don't, you know, cause it's like New England.
Speaker 1: They do a lot of sports. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to do field hockey, but we have to
Speaker 1: have So I went to my English teacher and told them,
Speaker 1: and they started. They brought in a theater teacher. We
Speaker 1: started a theater department. So then I started doing plays there.
Speaker 1: It was just something I always knew. Then I did
Speaker 1: Summer Stock after I graduated high school in New England,
Speaker 1: and then I came to UCLA to do to major
Speaker 1: in theater, and I knew I wanted to be in
Speaker 1: New York or LA. And my mom took me down
Speaker 1: to New York City to check out NYU, and a
Speaker 1: guy flashed me on the West Side Highway driving. I
Speaker 1: was in the passenger seat and my mom was driving,
Speaker 1: and there's.
Speaker 3: Like a full frontal well on.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he was driving. And I'm seventeen.
Speaker 3: What yes, I mean Logistically, it's mind boggling.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, honest auto cruisers something. I don't
Speaker 2: want to stick shift. There's a lot of ways we
Speaker 2: can go here, but we're not going to.
Speaker 1: So we're not. I'm going to, but I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: you know, life has its own way of guiding you
Speaker 1: in some direction or another. And I said to my mother,
Speaker 1: I'm not going here. I freaked out, you know, and said,
Speaker 1: I don't care whatever happens in this audition for NYU.
Speaker 1: I'm not going here. I'm not living here. So I
Speaker 1: chose to go out to UCLA. And when I was
Speaker 1: in the housing department, I had just arrived for orientation
Speaker 1: and I was in the housing office, which is this
Speaker 1: hallway and a bulletin board with all of these index
Speaker 1: cards of where to live, and people would just say,
Speaker 1: you know, I found an apartment, do you want to
Speaker 1: live here? Because I didn't get into the dorms. I
Speaker 1: wasn't that organized, neither were my parents, so I didn't
Speaker 1: know where to live. So this is again going to
Speaker 1: how life gives you steps to take. And I'm standing
Speaker 1: there with my dad looking at this big housing board
Speaker 1: figuring out where to live. And this guy comes up
Speaker 1: to me and says, are you looking for a place
Speaker 1: to live? And again, I'm seventeen. It's our first couple
Speaker 1: of days there, and I said yeah, and he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I found an apartment, a two bedroom apartment. Maybe you
Speaker 1: could find a roommate and I could get a roommate,
Speaker 1: and we could. It's a block off campus. And I
Speaker 1: looked to my dad and I said what should I do?
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, So I said sure, Okay. I
Speaker 1: mean at least he was standing there in front of
Speaker 1: me as opposed to all of these just blank these
Speaker 1: cards and phone numbers.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: That turns out to be Darren Starr, who went on
Speaker 1: to create Melrose Place. So I lived with Darren for
Speaker 1: a year in this little dinky apartment off of campus
Speaker 1: on Landfair. And then it was years later. You know,
Speaker 1: I got my I did eight years of movies. And
Speaker 1: then Darren calls me because we had stayed friends, and
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I'm introducing this new character to
Speaker 1: the show I'm doing, which I had never watched. But
Speaker 1: it was this perfect time in my career. I was
Speaker 1: hating waiting in between movies of downtime. I hated downtime.
Speaker 1: All I wanted to do was be on set or
Speaker 1: on a play, just acting. And so he said, would
Speaker 1: you consider coming on? And I said absolutely? Do I
Speaker 1: get to act every day?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's so cool, that's incredible. I never knew that.
Speaker 2: And of all the roles you played, and you've had
Speaker 2: a really extensive career, I mean, to stay to even
Speaker 2: get the chance to go into the industry that y'all
Speaker 2: have been in is really statistically not sustainable, and then
Speaker 2: to get in into sustain as long as you both
Speaker 2: have I mean, you and Jana both have collected rules,
Speaker 2: and you've had a really great career. Who is the
Speaker 2: character you think is most like you of all the
Speaker 2: characters you've played or did they all kind of have
Speaker 2: a piece of you? Are you a piece of them.
Speaker 1: You know what's really cool is actually, again I love
Speaker 1: how life kind of like art and life will feed you.
Speaker 1: So I've gotten parts at a time when I wanted
Speaker 1: to use that part to learn more about myself. Like
Speaker 1: I would get a part that maybe was more sexy
Speaker 1: or sensual, or a part that was more confident, or
Speaker 1: a part that was more and I was safe to
Speaker 1: do it because it was someone else's lines, this character's
Speaker 1: own psyche, her problems. I could do it sort of
Speaker 1: behind but through that character, and that has happened over
Speaker 1: and over, and you know, as a result, I just
Speaker 1: feel like, this is what it's like to be Victoria.
Speaker 1: The part on Montree Hill, I mean, she was so
Speaker 1: angry and so mean to her own daughter. And I
Speaker 1: don't have children, but I found it really hard to
Speaker 1: embrace this woman in the beginning that was so mean.
Speaker 1: In fact, my first day of shooting, they were like,
Speaker 1: the director was like, can you let's just do it again,
Speaker 1: go more, be meaner, like say this line and just
Speaker 1: get her so and then I found a way. You know,
Speaker 1: you access a part of you, another part of you
Speaker 1: that you're not used to in your daily life, that
Speaker 1: has no issues asserting herself is kind of like doesn't
Speaker 1: care how anyone reacts, and I just would have to
Speaker 1: back up and like give that part Victoria justification for that.
Speaker 1: So for five years on Montree Hill. It's not that
Speaker 1: I was like that all the time, but I accessed
Speaker 1: a part of me that I'm not in my real
Speaker 1: life comfortable. So she grew me. She grewed me. I
Speaker 1: don't have to be there, but I now know what
Speaker 1: it's like for a woman, you know, who acts that way,
Speaker 1: who's worked her whole life, maybe had children instead of
Speaker 1: a career, you know, whatever it was that I came
Speaker 1: up with for her reasoning, I've done the same the
Speaker 1: same thing on Marmor's place that I did for all
Speaker 1: those years. It was like she was very confident and
Speaker 1: not going and you know which I wasn't so much,
Speaker 1: especially in relationships, and you know, I was more like
Speaker 1: I would get into these relationships to learn, I think.
Speaker 1: But also I kind of like would put onto these
Speaker 1: men like, oh they know everything. I'll just slip into
Speaker 1: here and into his life and he'll do everything. And
Speaker 1: I mean that's not a mistake. What is right? We
Speaker 1: all know? So anyway, sure guilty.
Speaker 2: Is charged, Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, speaking of the of
Speaker 2: men though, I mean I remember because you've been with
Speaker 2: David for how long seventeen years? Because I just remember
Speaker 2: you were dating for a long time and even being
Speaker 2: on the SAT while I'm on my third husband. I'm like,
Speaker 2: why are you getting.
Speaker 3: Married to me?
Speaker 1: You should trobly get married.
Speaker 2: And you know, you wrote an article and Glamour basically
Speaker 2: saying that you know you were waiting until later, And
Speaker 2: I'm curious, was that a career driven thing? Was that
Speaker 2: just a personal decision?
Speaker 3: Like where?
Speaker 2: Like why why did you wait that many years? Like
Speaker 2: just kind of curious abound that.
Speaker 1: Sure it was. It wasn't planned. I knew that whenever
Speaker 1: I was in a relationship, I would just kind of
Speaker 1: get diverted and like my attention go into the relationship,
Speaker 1: and which shil should I mean, you have to give
Speaker 1: to a relationship and nurture it. And so every time
Speaker 1: I did that, it just felt not me and and
Speaker 1: then I would be as I said before, I also
Speaker 1: wrote an article years ago for Oprah magazine about how
Speaker 1: I would just be a chameleon and kind of want
Speaker 1: to get into the man who his personality is. You know,
Speaker 1: I was dating one guy who played polo and went
Speaker 1: to Yale and you know, wore Armani suits, and so
Speaker 1: I got rid of all my hippie stuff and got
Speaker 1: my own Harmani suit and my own and I would
Speaker 1: go to the symphony with him and my next guy
Speaker 1: after that, like I met on a Harley ride and
Speaker 1: so like I started got my own Harley, and I
Speaker 1: you know, I got rid of all those Armani stuff
Speaker 1: and I got like grunge stuff. This in the nineties,
Speaker 1: so there was like that grunge period. So I just
Speaker 1: would do this with every guy, and I just took
Speaker 1: me a long time to go. And when I finally
Speaker 1: met David, I was in my forties. My life was
Speaker 1: going fine. It was just great. I didn't the next person,
Speaker 1: or if I was going to be with someone, would
Speaker 1: have to like add add to my life, because when
Speaker 1: you're in your forties and you have you know, a
Speaker 1: career and your girlfriends, you know, you get that emotional
Speaker 1: you don't really I didn't know where he was going
Speaker 1: to fit he would have to add. And I met
Speaker 1: David and I knew right away, Wow, this is a
Speaker 1: real man, Like this guy is a He's a grounding
Speaker 1: wire for me. And he didn't know anything about the business,
Speaker 1: and in fact, he was across the country and had
Speaker 1: been divorced for quite a while, four years at least,
Speaker 1: and he had still a son at home in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: So I was like, how's this going to work? But
Speaker 1: it worked because we both kind of were at that
Speaker 1: age where we didn't need each other to exist and
Speaker 1: to kind of we just amplified each other and it
Speaker 1: was like a quality thing. I don't know how else
Speaker 1: to explain it. I was ready because I knew myself
Speaker 1: quite a bit more and it's just been really great
Speaker 1: because we started late, and then we were together for
Speaker 1: twelve years. And then why didn't I get married? Because
Speaker 1: I think I had a fear. I definitely had a
Speaker 1: fear of commitment. But then finally, I think my sister
Speaker 1: was saying something to me, aunt to David, and then
Speaker 1: and I realized, you know, he's very traditional and he
Speaker 1: had been married for almost twenty years and had a family,
Speaker 1: and I realized, you know what, I realized It was
Speaker 1: the one that it was like the adventure that I
Speaker 1: hadn't done yet. My brain was like, my brain was like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: my wing, He's going to clip my wings. I'm going
Speaker 1: to have to conform and there goes all my adventure. No.
Speaker 1: In fact, I said to him once when I had
Speaker 1: a moment, you know those you have these moments, I
Speaker 1: was overwhelmed with like fear, and I said, if you
Speaker 1: think you're you're gonna clip my wings and I'm going
Speaker 1: to move to the suburbs of Connecticut, you have another
Speaker 1: thing coming. And he said to me, I don't want
Speaker 1: to clip your wings. Here are my car keys. Go
Speaker 1: do what you need to do and leave the car
Speaker 1: this station. And he told me where to leave it.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, I believe him. He just
Speaker 1: offered me. He just said, you know, well he's turned
Speaker 1: out to like brush up my wings and support me
Speaker 1: when I wasn't even believing in myself. So it really
Speaker 1: has been an adventure. You know, I'd done the Central
Speaker 1: Pei this guy and that impossible one and this and
Speaker 1: that and the other thing, and I've done it and
Speaker 1: I realize, oh, the commitment is the one area that
Speaker 1: it's going to be an adventure. And it has been,
Speaker 1: and it's been, it's increasing.
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. That's such a good I mean, that
Speaker 2: just gave me chills thinking about that. Too. It's like
Speaker 2: even something we were just kind of going through. I
Speaker 2: was talking with the girls about something that you know,
Speaker 2: it's like kind of freaking me out a little bit.
Speaker 2: And it's like we look at it as something that's
Speaker 2: going to bring us down or that's going to be
Speaker 2: you know, yes, it'll be hard, but it's like you
Speaker 2: look at it, it's like, no, this is an adventure.
Speaker 2: This is something that is going to make you a
Speaker 2: better person. It's going to make you strong, or it's
Speaker 2: going to make you you know, And it's like that's
Speaker 2: just so great. I love that mindset of looking at
Speaker 2: it like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember meeting my husband.
Speaker 2: He's in music and he travels a ton, like he's
Speaker 2: gone a lot of nights, like minimum one fifty two
Speaker 2: hundred nights a year. And I remember this is my
Speaker 2: second marriage, first marriage going like you know, I we
Speaker 2: were together all the time, you know, it's just very
Speaker 2: like nine to five all the things, and I didn't
Speaker 2: know how I would do in this, but I knew
Speaker 2: he was the person. I just didn't know how I
Speaker 2: would be in that. And I'm so wildly obsessed with
Speaker 2: my own time now and it's grown, it grows a
Speaker 2: different level of trust. Even when you were saying that
Speaker 2: you guys were essentially by coastal. I mean that you
Speaker 2: have no choice but to trust. When you're away from someone,
Speaker 2: it forces you into it. And if you can't trust,
Speaker 2: then you don't exist or make it. So I think
Speaker 2: that's really beautiful that the first four years you got
Speaker 2: that time to like learn each other differently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, trust was huge. It was such
Speaker 1: a huge thing I had to learn for years. And
Speaker 1: someone told me so many years ago, incredibly wise woman
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Roth, said. I said, how do I learn to
Speaker 1: trust men? And she said, you don't. You learn to
Speaker 1: trust yourself. Trust yourself. You can't control other people. So
Speaker 1: and then I also learned because I was in therapy
Speaker 1: most of this whole time, and I learned I can
Speaker 1: ask for what I need. So let's say you're he's
Speaker 1: a part, and you're like, and you're your wounds start
Speaker 1: having away with you.
Speaker 2: This is're ruminating. We call it common iral spiral ruminating reactive.
Speaker 1: There we go, yep, because you know that's what our
Speaker 1: brains do. They need to have activity. So well, that's
Speaker 1: not reality, that's that's me, that's in that perspective, So
Speaker 1: what do I need? It has to I would say
Speaker 1: to him, David long distance, I said, once, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're going to court me, you need to send
Speaker 1: me flowers. And because I hadn't heard from him, he's
Speaker 1: not good on text, he hated the phone and he said,
Speaker 1: it would be my honor to send you flowers. And
Speaker 1: I got flowers from the most beautiful florist in Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills like that afternoon. And sometimes I just need to
Speaker 1: be asked. And the other thing I've learned is to
Speaker 1: not come with my anger, figure out what it is,
Speaker 1: and then force myself to come with the vulnerability. And
Speaker 1: that's what he can hear. So if I see to him,
Speaker 1: it makes me feel you know, I get insecure or
Speaker 1: you know when you're not calling me or now I
Speaker 1: have failed over and over at that because I definitely
Speaker 1: have had a very kind of like tough girl thing
Speaker 1: to protect that part of me. But but David isn't
Speaker 1: amazing man, and he stuck through that time to to
Speaker 1: uh so that now I feel more safe to come
Speaker 1: with the vulnerability. And I think that that actually is
Speaker 1: enhanced since we got married.
Speaker 2: Love that that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, always ask for what you need, and then like,
Speaker 1: if you're feeling insecure, is your best friend? You can't
Speaker 1: say to your best friend, I hate to bother you
Speaker 1: and I can't believe I'm this age and I'm still
Speaker 1: feeling this. Can you just give me a hug? Or
Speaker 1: can you just call me once a day or just
Speaker 1: for just a lot of times you realize once you
Speaker 1: express it and your need is met and they do
Speaker 1: their best to you know, because they'd want to take
Speaker 1: care of you, then that fear you realize it was
Speaker 1: just in your head from.
Speaker 3: An old time, old wounds, old wound zone times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to be honest with someone else when
Speaker 2: you can't be honest with yourself, though, So I think
Speaker 2: it's like really worth noting that you had to do
Speaker 2: a lot to get there, to even be able to
Speaker 2: say what you need. I mean, that's really a lot
Speaker 2: of beautiful work exactly instill the place. So it says
Speaker 2: we'll relive every hook up, every scandal, every backstep, blackmail explosion,
Speaker 2: every week removal together, secrets are revealed as so you
Speaker 2: guys are rewatching. I'm curious because Lisa Rena played Taylor.
Speaker 2: She's on the Roorehousewives? Do you watch the Housewives? Are
Speaker 2: you gonna have her on? Do you still keep in
Speaker 2: touch with her? Like?
Speaker 3: Who else are you are you wanting to have come
Speaker 3: on the show?
Speaker 1: I don't keep in touch with her. I did watch
Speaker 1: The Housewives, yep, and she comes on later. So we
Speaker 1: just started and we're dealing. We're just having on the
Speaker 1: people who were on in the beginning, so got it.
Speaker 1: And I haven't even appeared. I come in in episode
Speaker 1: fifteen and we're like at eight, so really, and Laura Lighton,
Speaker 1: who played Sydney, comes on a little after me. So
Speaker 1: we're having two of the guys. We're gonna have Josie
Speaker 1: Bassett on. We're gonna have of course as they come on,
Speaker 1: you know, Heather, all the original characters. So when we
Speaker 1: get to thoselater season, absolutely we want to have everyone on.
Speaker 1: It's so fun when you have, yeah, people on because
Speaker 1: you just have that much more, that many more stories.
Speaker 2: Is there there's a reboot? Is it happening?
Speaker 1: You've been developing it for a few years and it's
Speaker 1: in the works. There are people with higher pay grade
Speaker 1: figuring out above us. But yeah, Laura and I have
Speaker 1: been producing that and putting that together for quite a
Speaker 1: while and that's kind of all I can say. But
Speaker 1: it's definitely some things in the works.
Speaker 3: Well, if you need a forty year old mom on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: To cause some drama, yeah right, you're hearring, I.
Speaker 1: Know, because you know that. The other thing with doing
Speaker 1: a show like that, there was so much drama in
Speaker 1: the script, like you would get the script every week
Speaker 1: and just be like, what I'm doing? What did you read?
Speaker 1: And it got that kind of out of your system,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like right, kind of
Speaker 1: exhausted after doing it on h on screen. But yes,
Speaker 1: definitely need a troublemaker. I am sure.
Speaker 2: Well, daff thank you so much for coming the show
Speaker 2: everyone listened to still the Place on iHeart or wherever
Speaker 2: you listen to your podcasts. Yeah, Daphnie, you're the best.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Nice to see you too, to
Speaker 2: see you, nice to meet you. Hopefully I'll see you
Speaker 2: on one of the next cons or a movie we'll
Speaker 2: do eventually. We'll eventually do the movie together.
Speaker 1: I would love to.
Speaker 2: We'll figure it out. Okay, all right, love talk to
Speaker 2: you soon. Bye, all right, bye guy. Her perspective, I know,
Speaker 2: I love her. She was she was so nice every
Speaker 2: time I, you know, worked there. But I don't remember
Speaker 2: that one scene she was talking about someone have to
Speaker 2: go rewatch that. But I just love her and she's
Speaker 2: she was always so so great. I'll be googling. No,
Speaker 2: you won't, but I will.
Speaker 3: Oh, I will.
Speaker 2: Okay, got thirty minutes till the boy wakes up, so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna speedate yourself.
Speaker 3: Yep, I know that I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I have not gotten I saw Alan pop
Speaker 2: his little engine. You've gotten No, I've gotten no text
Speaker 2: about the closets, so we should go down and see
Speaker 2: if he's opened it. I don't need to be involved.
Speaker 2: I just love in surprises make me. Those are two
Speaker 2: of my favorite things. I was thinking i'd get like
Speaker 2: a babe of the closet, but maybe maybe I say
Speaker 2: something when we come down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stand by. We'll let you know what happens next week.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned, all right, Bye guys,