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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer did I'm Heeart Radio podcast?

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Speaker 2: Hi girl, Hi BF, you look beautiful. By the way

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Speaker 2: I tried, you look great. I just curled my hair red.

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Speaker 2: I did not try, but I do have an update

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, tell me.

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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 2: The only reason I did try is for my I

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Speaker 2: just have been feeling meh me, it's the it's I

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Speaker 2: think it's the weather I have. I have an ambushing

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Speaker 2: period problem. So I'm on my second one in like

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Speaker 2: three weeks, and I think we may be perimenopausal. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna not jump to conclusions, but it's starting to feel

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Speaker 2: that way. Well, ask our friend Nate, because I went

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Speaker 2: and got blood work redrawn and I was like, in

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Speaker 2: my perimenopausal He's like, actually you're not. I'm gonna go again, Okay,

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Speaker 2: because I have done the testosterone cream shots or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I honestly just needed to do something with myself

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Speaker 2: today to just feel like a person for a minute.

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Speaker 3: And even that is not much.

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Speaker 2: But well, it's it's interesting that piece because when you

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Speaker 2: just dry the hair and curl and put on makeup,

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Speaker 2: it feels different, and it does. I think it does help.

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Speaker 2: Like the only difference today is that I curled my hair.

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Speaker 2: Literally it's C C cream everything. But I just put

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Speaker 2: on beautiful another slashes look good. I mean, like you

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like you think makeup the

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Speaker 2: whole thing. I needed to do something.

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Speaker 3: But I feel that.

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Speaker 2: Because when I got back from the honeymoon, it was

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Speaker 2: like that week of just like, didn't you know I

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Speaker 2: didn't have my bag either, but in sweatshirts yea cozy,

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Speaker 2: which you know I'm coat pretty cozy right now. But

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Speaker 2: it's like, I mean Amazon special, I mean I'm an atcha.

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Speaker 2: Actually I'm gonna need a link. And I don't say

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Speaker 2: that too often, liken it today I do buy all

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Speaker 2: the things you usually post, the like facial stuff. Love it,

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Speaker 2: that face zapper thing, whatever that is, I really love it.

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Speaker 2: And I got I used your code. Thanks girl, just

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Speaker 2: say the words face left and I'm adding the cart.

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Speaker 2: But I think there is something to be said. And

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Speaker 2: when I didn't have my bag, but drumroll please, I got.

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Speaker 3: My bag back, I knew you would. Is everything in it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so it's been so long I forgot No,

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Speaker 2: I mean everything everything was in there. The bag's destroyed,

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Speaker 2: which is a bummer because I just got the bag,

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Speaker 2: but it's fine. But I got the bag back, so

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Speaker 2: it's it's totally fine. But everything came back. So I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh God, to curl my hair. And the

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Speaker 2: first time that I actually curled my hair put makeup on,

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Speaker 2: it felt great. So there is something to be said, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when you are feeling that kind of low to just

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Speaker 2: take a shower, brush your hair, put some little makeup

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Speaker 2: ontes ago, I was in a hoodie and still hadn't

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Speaker 2: put makeup on. Well, so I really wanted to get

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Speaker 2: more presentable because I also feel the same way because

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Speaker 2: it's gloomy outside and I've felt just kind of gross lately.

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Speaker 2: But I was we've had because I got the bag back,

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Speaker 2: it's been like five million loads of laundry and just

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Speaker 2: like the kids stuff, and there's just I mean, we

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Speaker 2: have like this little island in our in our closet,

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Speaker 2: and just it was getting stacked so high from stuff

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Speaker 2: So then, like you know, count three weeks later, it's

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Speaker 2: like piling up. And Alan was gone at work, and

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Speaker 2: so I thought it would be sweet to just completely

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Speaker 2: clean the entire closet, put all of his stuff because

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Speaker 2: he had his side too. That was like piling up

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Speaker 2: and his bag that was still not unpacked.

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Speaker 3: So I cleaned it all up and hung it all up.

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Speaker 3: Oh it feels good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a lovely and I closed the doors

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Speaker 2: left the lights on, so when he walks in, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be like a Harry Bradshaw mom.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't know yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I kind of want to be there for it.

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Speaker 2: I know that's awkward, but organization makes my will go around.

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Speaker 2: And it matters to Preston a lot when I do

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Speaker 2: his side of the closet. Oh does it? So I've

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Speaker 2: never touched to Alan's side of the closet. It matters

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Speaker 2: because now I'm like, but my fear is what if

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Speaker 2: he doesn't say anything, and then I'm going to be like, well,

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Speaker 2: put me in the megs and I'll make sure to

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Speaker 2: say something for you. Okay, I'll show you when we're done.

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Speaker 2: But it looks really pretty with the lights on. I

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Speaker 2: opened the windows. Oh, just to make it up fresh.

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Speaker 2: field looks great in there. No, it is interesting too.

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Speaker 2: I think that right now I'm just in a little

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Speaker 2: like we're we're talking in summer school is starting or

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Speaker 2: trying to like, but we're I like to live life

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Speaker 2: a little proactive. You and I have talked about this

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Speaker 2: a lot, so my OCD planning A type self does

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Speaker 2: not like reactive worlds, and I live in a reactive

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Speaker 2: world a lot of times, just because of Preston's career.

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Speaker 2: So I even feel like getting dressed and like, but

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Speaker 2: a clean closet helps you do that, like organized spaces

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Speaker 2: help you feel like you don't You're not reactive, You're

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Speaker 2: not just last minute. Like even today it literally took

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Speaker 2: me ten minutes, but I thought, oh, like look at me,

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Speaker 3: No one can see me.

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Speaker 2: But right it does feel you just feel more proactive.

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Speaker 2: A clean yaset you can go in there at any

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Speaker 2: point and know where your things are.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: And to that fact too, I had a moment where,

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Speaker 2: you know, getting back again, there was like like a

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Speaker 2: real true depression coming back from the honeymoon, just because

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Speaker 2: it was the most amazing time ever. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: Alan went to Europe for five days and so we

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Speaker 2: really didn't get to see each other, and then when

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Speaker 2: we came back there was just been like just all

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Speaker 2: the back to school stuff and for sports the kids

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Speaker 2: like getting back into the groove of things. And when

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Speaker 2: clean that up. But when things are untidy in my

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Speaker 2: to just feel a little claustrophobic and just a messy.

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Speaker 3: I just don't like it.

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Speaker 2: And so with some of the work stuff that I've

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Speaker 2: been doing, I even texted Catherine yesterday and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm I need to ask ask for an extension because

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Speaker 2: I'm just my eyes are just it's weird, right. I

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Speaker 2: I will, but I'm really tired. Now it's seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: and and I just am like and tomorrow, I just

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Speaker 2: want to clean my house. That is what I want

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Speaker 2: to do. It's just the best and I feel great now.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I'm ready. Yeah, Like we're trying. We

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Speaker 2: are full tilt Leo season, right, So there's two birthdays

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Speaker 2: coming up. It's a big one for Preston. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure how public he'd like to be about the facts

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Speaker 2: he's about to be fifty. But I just said it,

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Speaker 2: are we doing anything. I don't know when we can.

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Speaker 2: He's never home, Like I was going to fly the

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Speaker 2: kids to California. He's in California for like five days, okay,

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Speaker 2: but it comes back on a Sunday or Monday, Tuesday maybe,

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Speaker 2: so I just have to I mean, I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: to go one leota time. I mean, I just sent

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Speaker 2: you an invite this morning for an impromptu party Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I was decorating the the closet or I was clean

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Speaker 2: well you can stay longer.

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Speaker 3: We'll do a cool time. But I just.

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Speaker 2: Legend six birthday dude camp. I'm just trying to back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just doing like a fun hear get friend.

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Speaker 2: Zero nutritional snacks plus way too much sugar. Per the birthday, boy,

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Speaker 2: please bring a towel, wear a swimsuit. No gifts please,

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Speaker 2: no gifts please, two hundred dollars lego set, I know

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Speaker 3: Well, that's actually only on your invite. No, it was kiddy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just piecing it together, but I do or

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Speaker 3: It's wild.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, but I think we

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Speaker 2: have to do something. So he's not he travels, he

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Speaker 3: What sucks is that he's.

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Speaker 2: Out with Kane Brown and he's got two really cool

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Speaker 3: Well, why can't you?

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Speaker 2: We have school co op school starts we do like

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Speaker 2: our orientation. We have our half day, then we have

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Speaker 2: happens to be on like on Preston's fiftieth birthday. So

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Speaker 2: and I've never when have you ever followed the grain?

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Speaker 2: Though I have, but I love it and and I

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Speaker 2: mean that in a bad way. No, No, No, I know.

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Speaker 2: What I love, though, is for them to get and

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Speaker 2: I'm learning a lot about my son. More recently, we've

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Speaker 2: lot in common. We do love a little structure, and

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Speaker 3: How many days as his school? Just two?

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Speaker 2: Should we do more or no? I thought about doing five?

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Speaker 2: Actually at the school behind our house. We have a

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Speaker 2: really beautiful public school. That's where our one friend found

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Speaker 2: with her son kind of the same thing he needed

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Speaker 2: the five days. The two days wasn't enough for his

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Speaker 2: energy and social like loves people, Yes, like love. This

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Speaker 2: is a perfect fit for love. Sure, we are going

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Speaker 2: to try and see where we get. The one thing

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Speaker 2: for love. I don't love them having two completely different

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Speaker 2: more time with me, which we're learning my one on

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Speaker 2: one time with him is really sacred to him. Would

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Speaker 3: Probably not.

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Speaker 2: I mean I do sometimes try it on in my

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Speaker 3: Whats I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: And this is this is a friend being because you're like,

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Speaker 2: I don't have time time and have a time. Well yeah,

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Speaker 2: but right, but you can if you want. But you're

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Speaker 2: and I trust that we have beautiful, wonderful charts over there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's always just been for a lifestyle. It's

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Speaker 2: so easy. But then you opened the door when you

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Speaker 2: told me that I can have more days off in

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Speaker 2: public school than I thought.

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Speaker 3: Mmmmmm m.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just say, your dreams. I understand. Listen, you're

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Speaker 2: going to do what you want to do, and I like,

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Speaker 2: whatever works for the mama, But you are the mom

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Speaker 2: that wants to also have has dreams and wants to

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Speaker 2: but when you don't have the time to fulfill those dreams.

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Speaker 2: but I did love it.

434
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was when you set out your age, I

435
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: was like, hmm, I wonder if she saw Melris's Place.

436
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: But you must have been like.

437
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 3: Too young to be watching, like teenager.

438
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but TV back then also was even when it

439
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: was racy or wild or crazy, it wasn't pushing envelopes

440
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: like it is now.

441
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 1: Yes, that's easy, you know.

442
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: Can we go back to the drama, So what did

443
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Speaker 2: you experience?

444
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: How was it?

445
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Speaker 1: How did you Well? First of all, everyone thought that

446
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: because on the storylines we're all betraying each other and

447
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, like befriending each other and then like just

448
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: as fast betraying each other and stealing each other's jobs

449
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: and boyfriends and you know, pushing each other in the

450
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: pool or whatever all that drama on set, they thought

451
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 1: that it must have been like that behind the scene,

452
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: for the most part, it wasn't. It wasn't like that.

453
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: But people, you know, there were, in fact in the

454
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Speaker 1: podcast that we're doing now, I'll just bring that up

455
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: right now, we're talking about it still the place. So

456
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: Courtney Thorne Smith who played Alison, and Laura Layton, who

457
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: plays Sydney and myself. I played a character called Joe.

458
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Speaker 2: Uh.

459
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Speaker 1: We're doing this new podcast and we're discovering because we're

460
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: about a month in just from our stories and our memories,

461
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 1: and we've had a couple of the cast guys, the

462
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: guys on as guests, and everyone's having these memories and

463
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: like do you remember when all the stuff and so

464
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: jog's all of our memories. So there was drama. Uh.

465
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Speaker 1: But it also was the nineties and we were all

466
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: so young, so it wasn't just on the set. Like

467
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: I had my own life going on off the set,

468
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Speaker 1: and that was interesting. But it's what you're talking about, Jenna.

469
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: When you were on you're of the age where you

470
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Speaker 1: cannot shut out the stuff on the set, and you're

471
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Speaker 1: of that age where you're trying to find, especially on

472
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: us ensemble, I felt like I was trying to find

473
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: We're all were trying to find our place, you know,

474
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: when there were these pressures from outside, like our show

475
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: got really popular, especially when how the Lochleyer came on

476
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: and we were on all the magazines and you know,

477
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: traveling and all of this stuff. All of this, so

478
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: there was a lot coming at you as a young actor,

479
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, So there was just you know, stuff going

480
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: on there and just a lot for the head. We

481
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: just had Andrew Shu who played Billy on and he

482
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: was talking to Courtney, who's one of the co hosts

483
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: with us. So they met on the pilot and then

484
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: they fell in love in real life and I'm like, well,

485
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: how long did that take? You know, how when did

486
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Speaker 1: you start dating? And she's like, I think episode three

487
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, y'all moved fast a but I

488
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: guess you do when you're young. And so they started

489
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: dating in real life. This is all on the podcast,

490
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: so I'm not saying anything out of school or private,

491
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: but in fact, they started talking a lot about it,

492
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: and then the characters then they broke up in real life,

493
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: and then the characters kept dating. So I was like, well,

494
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: was that weird? Because that takes good acting, I would think,

495
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: or at least I'm mature ending to a relationship, because

496
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: can you imagine like Noah picking up and then having

497
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: to go And how.

498
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Speaker 3: Old are we talking?

499
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Speaker 2: When you say like you're young on Melrose Place, Like

500
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Speaker 2: how old is everyone? Because I'm like thinking back to

501
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 2: even like younger thirties and I was a disaster, A

502
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: sweet disaster. I can't imagine throwing in the cameras, the drama,

503
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: the producers, this epic, crazy popular show.

504
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I was thirty. I turned thirty when I started,

505
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: and then the others were younger, they were in their twenties.

506
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

507
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's so.

508
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Speaker 2: The girls that you're doing still the place with. Were

509
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: you guys actually friends on the.

510
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: Show in real life? Yes?

511
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Speaker 3: In real life?

512
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Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?

513
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, yeah.

514
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: But we've stayed friends because we've had like reunions, you know,

515
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: because we've been around so long, Like they had a

516
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: Melrose thirtieth reunion, we did Good Morning America. We've done

517
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: different reunions, and so we have each other's we're all

518
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,239
Speaker 1: on a you know, emails and texts and so we

519
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: have we'll get lunch once in a while. So we've

520
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: stayed and actually gotten to know each other more than

521
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: we did back then, because again, you're working all the time,

522
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have a right ton of time to

523
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Speaker 1: get to know each other off.

524
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Speaker 2: Wait, dath, since you brought up them dating, did you

525
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: I know you've been married for a long time. Any

526
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: of amazing husband, he's so supportive.

527
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Speaker 3: It's such a potster.

528
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Speaker 2: I know it's empany, but did you ever date any

529
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Speaker 2: of your co stars or did you always kind of

530
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Speaker 2: stay out of that well?

531
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Speaker 1: I so okay, So at an Hour and Talk and Dagny,

532
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: that is the look we've been waiting for. It took

533
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, I hung out with I spent some

534
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: with what's a couple guys. Uh. But the funny the

535
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: like I said off screen, So when I started the show,

536
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: I had a boyfriend, and I remember we must have

537
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: been just at the end of our like a two

538
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: year relationship.

539
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: Uh.

540
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Speaker 1: We lived together because I brought him to like I

541
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: don't know, a dinner or it's like an you know,

542
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: a celebration to start it or something. And then it

543
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: wasn't too long after I brought my next boys into it,

544
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: and I just remember Thomas who played my and his

545
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: wife come up. They kind of like warner me. They're like,

546
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: is this this is a different guy than you brought

547
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: like last week? Right. I'm like, oh yeah, that ended.

548
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: They're like so he's like, oh yeah, this is new,

549
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, no we're together now. And I think that

550
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: one lasted a year and a half too, So I

551
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: was kind of what you call the serial monogamous through

552
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: all of the nineties and probably the yeah, a little

553
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: bit in the eighties, but it was kind of like that,

554
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: like it was just a series series of boyfriends. So

555
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name names. You have that look

556
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: in you, like, oh, I know she won't know.

557
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: That's that's one thing I love about you, though. You

558
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: are a private and I'm I'm always like, tell me more. Yeah,

559
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: She's like, let's not record, but daphing you. So you

560
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: started young, right, you started at nineteen into acting, which

561
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: is really young. I mean, honestly, I can't even imagine.

562
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: Did you know pretty much your whole life that's what

563
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: you were going to do? Like, did you know? Did

564
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: you kind of fall into it? Was it like this

565
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: is the dream for me? I can't imagine. Was it

566
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: high school? Middle school? Did you do theater? Like?

567
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 3: Tell me, how did you know you're calling? Early on?

568
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: So I knew my calling before I knew it was

569
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: a calling, and I did my first play at it

570
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: was in seventh grade. And before that I was doing

571
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: skits for like the neighborhood and the apartment building that

572
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: we lived in, and just you know, I'd range my

573
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: girlfriends to have rehearsals because I knew what that was

574
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: like after school and you know, put together skits. I

575
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: just was always in me to pretend and be imagined,

576
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, make things up and do it for other people.

577
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: And then when I started my first thing in junior high,

578
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: I just never stopped. I went to a lot of

579
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: different schools and one of the schools I went to

580
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: I was in tenth grade and they didn't even have

581
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: a theater department. If you can imagine that. We moved

582
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: from the Bay Area to New England, this tiny little

583
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: school in Woodstock, and I said, you guys have to

584
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: have a theater department. They're like, oh, no, we play

585
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: sports here. We don't, you know, cause it's like New England.

586
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: They do a lot of sports. I'm like, I don't

587
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: know how to do field hockey, but we have to

588
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: have So I went to my English teacher and told them,

589
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: and they started. They brought in a theater teacher. We

590
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: started a theater department. So then I started doing plays there.

591
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: It was just something I always knew. Then I did

592
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: Summer Stock after I graduated high school in New England,

593
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: and then I came to UCLA to do to major

594
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: in theater, and I knew I wanted to be in

595
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: New York or LA. And my mom took me down

596
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: to New York City to check out NYU, and a

597
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: guy flashed me on the West Side Highway driving. I

598
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: was in the passenger seat and my mom was driving,

599
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: and there's.

600
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: Like a full frontal well on.

601
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how he was driving. And I'm seventeen.

602
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: What yes, I mean Logistically, it's mind boggling.

603
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, honest auto cruisers something. I don't

604
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: want to stick shift. There's a lot of ways we

605
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: can go here, but we're not going to.

606
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: So we're not. I'm going to, but I'm telling you,

607
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, life has its own way of guiding you

608
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: in some direction or another. And I said to my mother,

609
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going here. I freaked out, you know, and said,

610
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't care whatever happens in this audition for NYU.

611
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going here. I'm not living here. So I

612
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: chose to go out to UCLA. And when I was

613
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: in the housing department, I had just arrived for orientation

614
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: and I was in the housing office, which is this

615
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: hallway and a bulletin board with all of these index

616
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: cards of where to live, and people would just say,

617
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, I found an apartment, do you want to

618
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: live here? Because I didn't get into the dorms. I

619
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that organized, neither were my parents, so I didn't

620
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: know where to live. So this is again going to

621
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: how life gives you steps to take. And I'm standing

622
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: there with my dad looking at this big housing board

623
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: figuring out where to live. And this guy comes up

624
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: to me and says, are you looking for a place

625
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: to live? And again, I'm seventeen. It's our first couple

626
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: of days there, and I said yeah, and he goes, oh,

627
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: I found an apartment, a two bedroom apartment. Maybe you

628
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: could find a roommate and I could get a roommate,

629
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: and we could. It's a block off campus. And I

630
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: looked to my dad and I said what should I do?

631
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, So I said sure, Okay. I

632
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: mean at least he was standing there in front of

633
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: me as opposed to all of these just blank these

634
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: cards and phone numbers.

635
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: Right.

636
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: That turns out to be Darren Starr, who went on

637
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: to create Melrose Place. So I lived with Darren for

638
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: a year in this little dinky apartment off of campus

639
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: on Landfair. And then it was years later. You know,

640
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: I got my I did eight years of movies. And

641
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: then Darren calls me because we had stayed friends, and

642
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I'm introducing this new character to

643
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: the show I'm doing, which I had never watched. But

644
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: it was this perfect time in my career. I was

645
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: hating waiting in between movies of downtime. I hated downtime.

646
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: All I wanted to do was be on set or

647
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: on a play, just acting. And so he said, would

648
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: you consider coming on? And I said absolutely? Do I

649
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: get to act every day?

650
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: Yes, that's so cool, that's incredible. I never knew that.

651
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: And of all the roles you played, and you've had

652
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: a really extensive career, I mean, to stay to even

653
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: get the chance to go into the industry that y'all

654
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: have been in is really statistically not sustainable, and then

655
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: to get in into sustain as long as you both

656
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: have I mean, you and Jana both have collected rules,

657
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: and you've had a really great career. Who is the

658
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: character you think is most like you of all the

659
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: characters you've played or did they all kind of have

660
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: a piece of you? Are you a piece of them.

661
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: You know what's really cool is actually, again I love

662
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: how life kind of like art and life will feed you.

663
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: So I've gotten parts at a time when I wanted

664
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: to use that part to learn more about myself. Like

665
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: I would get a part that maybe was more sexy

666
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: or sensual, or a part that was more confident, or

667
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: a part that was more and I was safe to

668
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: do it because it was someone else's lines, this character's

669
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: own psyche, her problems. I could do it sort of

670
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: behind but through that character, and that has happened over

671
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: and over, and you know, as a result, I just

672
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: feel like, this is what it's like to be Victoria.

673
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: The part on Montree Hill, I mean, she was so

674
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: angry and so mean to her own daughter. And I

675
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: don't have children, but I found it really hard to

676
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: embrace this woman in the beginning that was so mean.

677
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: In fact, my first day of shooting, they were like,

678
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: the director was like, can you let's just do it again,

679
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: go more, be meaner, like say this line and just

680
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: get her so and then I found a way. You know,

681
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: you access a part of you, another part of you

682
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: that you're not used to in your daily life, that

683
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: has no issues asserting herself is kind of like doesn't

684
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: care how anyone reacts, and I just would have to

685
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: back up and like give that part Victoria justification for that.

686
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: So for five years on Montree Hill. It's not that

687
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: I was like that all the time, but I accessed

688
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: a part of me that I'm not in my real

689
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: life comfortable. So she grew me. She grewed me. I

690
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: don't have to be there, but I now know what

691
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: it's like for a woman, you know, who acts that way,

692
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: who's worked her whole life, maybe had children instead of

693
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: a career, you know, whatever it was that I came

694
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: up with for her reasoning, I've done the same the

695
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: same thing on Marmor's place that I did for all

696
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: those years. It was like she was very confident and

697
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: not going and you know which I wasn't so much,

698
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: especially in relationships, and you know, I was more like

699
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: I would get into these relationships to learn, I think.

700
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: But also I kind of like would put onto these

701
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: men like, oh they know everything. I'll just slip into

702
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: here and into his life and he'll do everything. And

703
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's not a mistake. What is right? We

704
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: all know? So anyway, sure guilty.

705
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Is charged, Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, speaking of the of

706
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: men though, I mean I remember because you've been with

707
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: David for how long seventeen years? Because I just remember

708
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: you were dating for a long time and even being

709
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: on the SAT while I'm on my third husband. I'm like,

710
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: why are you getting.

711
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: Married to me?

712
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: You should trobly get married.

713
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: And you know, you wrote an article and Glamour basically

714
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: saying that you know you were waiting until later, And

715
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: I'm curious, was that a career driven thing? Was that

716
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: just a personal decision?

717
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: Like where?

718
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: Like why why did you wait that many years? Like

719
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: just kind of curious abound that.

720
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: Sure it was. It wasn't planned. I knew that whenever

721
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: I was in a relationship, I would just kind of

722
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: get diverted and like my attention go into the relationship,

723
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: and which shil should I mean, you have to give

724
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: to a relationship and nurture it. And so every time

725
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: I did that, it just felt not me and and

726
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 1: then I would be as I said before, I also

727
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: wrote an article years ago for Oprah magazine about how

728
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: I would just be a chameleon and kind of want

729
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: to get into the man who his personality is. You know,

730
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: I was dating one guy who played polo and went

731
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: to Yale and you know, wore Armani suits, and so

732
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: I got rid of all my hippie stuff and got

733
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: my own Harmani suit and my own and I would

734
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: go to the symphony with him and my next guy

735
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: after that, like I met on a Harley ride and

736
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: so like I started got my own Harley, and I

737
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, I got rid of all those Armani stuff

738
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: and I got like grunge stuff. This in the nineties,

739
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: so there was like that grunge period. So I just

740
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 1: would do this with every guy, and I just took

741
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: me a long time to go. And when I finally

742
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: met David, I was in my forties. My life was

743
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: going fine. It was just great. I didn't the next person,

744
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: or if I was going to be with someone, would

745
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: have to like add add to my life, because when

746
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: you're in your forties and you have you know, a

747
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: career and your girlfriends, you know, you get that emotional

748
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: you don't really I didn't know where he was going

749
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: to fit he would have to add. And I met

750
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: David and I knew right away, Wow, this is a

751
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: real man, Like this guy is a He's a grounding

752
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: wire for me. And he didn't know anything about the business,

753
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: and in fact, he was across the country and had

754
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: been divorced for quite a while, four years at least,

755
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: and he had still a son at home in Connecticut.

756
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: So I was like, how's this going to work? But

757
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: it worked because we both kind of were at that

758
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: age where we didn't need each other to exist and

759
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: to kind of we just amplified each other and it

760
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: was like a quality thing. I don't know how else

761
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: to explain it. I was ready because I knew myself

762
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: quite a bit more and it's just been really great

763
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: because we started late, and then we were together for

764
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: twelve years. And then why didn't I get married? Because

765
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: I think I had a fear. I definitely had a

766
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: fear of commitment. But then finally, I think my sister

767
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: was saying something to me, aunt to David, and then

768
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: and I realized, you know, he's very traditional and he

769
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: had been married for almost twenty years and had a family,

770
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: and I realized, you know what, I realized It was

771
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: the one that it was like the adventure that I

772
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: hadn't done yet. My brain was like, my brain was like, oh, no,

773
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: my wing, He's going to clip my wings. I'm going

774
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: to have to conform and there goes all my adventure. No.

775
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: In fact, I said to him once when I had

776
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: a moment, you know those you have these moments, I

777
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: was overwhelmed with like fear, and I said, if you

778
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: think you're you're gonna clip my wings and I'm going

779
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: to move to the suburbs of Connecticut, you have another

780
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: thing coming. And he said to me, I don't want

781
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: to clip your wings. Here are my car keys. Go

782
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: do what you need to do and leave the car

783
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: this station. And he told me where to leave it.

784
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: And I was just like, I believe him. He just

785
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: offered me. He just said, you know, well he's turned

786
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: out to like brush up my wings and support me

787
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: when I wasn't even believing in myself. So it really

788
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: has been an adventure. You know, I'd done the Central

789
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: Pei this guy and that impossible one and this and

790
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: that and the other thing, and I've done it and

791
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: I realize, oh, the commitment is the one area that

792
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: it's going to be an adventure. And it has been,

793
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: and it's been, it's increasing.

794
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. That's such a good I mean, that

795
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: just gave me chills thinking about that. Too. It's like

796
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: even something we were just kind of going through. I

797
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: was talking with the girls about something that you know,

798
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: it's like kind of freaking me out a little bit.

799
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: And it's like we look at it as something that's

800
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: going to bring us down or that's going to be

801
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: you know, yes, it'll be hard, but it's like you

802
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: look at it, it's like, no, this is an adventure.

803
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: This is something that is going to make you a

804
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: better person. It's going to make you strong, or it's

805
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: going to make you you know, And it's like that's

806
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: just so great. I love that mindset of looking at

807
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: it like that.

808
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

809
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: I remember meeting my husband.

810
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: He's in music and he travels a ton, like he's

811
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: gone a lot of nights, like minimum one fifty two

812
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: hundred nights a year. And I remember this is my

813
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: second marriage, first marriage going like you know, I we

814
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: were together all the time, you know, it's just very

815
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: like nine to five all the things, and I didn't

816
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: know how I would do in this, but I knew

817
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: he was the person. I just didn't know how I

818
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: would be in that. And I'm so wildly obsessed with

819
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: my own time now and it's grown, it grows a

820
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: different level of trust. Even when you were saying that

821
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: you guys were essentially by coastal. I mean that you

822
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: have no choice but to trust. When you're away from someone,

823
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: it forces you into it. And if you can't trust,

824
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: then you don't exist or make it. So I think

825
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: that's really beautiful that the first four years you got

826
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: that time to like learn each other differently.

827
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, trust was huge. It was such

828
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: a huge thing I had to learn for years. And

829
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: someone told me so many years ago, incredibly wise woman

830
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Roth, said. I said, how do I learn to

831
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: trust men? And she said, you don't. You learn to

832
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: trust yourself. Trust yourself. You can't control other people. So

833
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: and then I also learned because I was in therapy

834
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: most of this whole time, and I learned I can

835
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: ask for what I need. So let's say you're he's

836
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: a part, and you're like, and you're your wounds start

837
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: having away with you.

838
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: This is're ruminating. We call it common iral spiral ruminating reactive.

839
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: There we go, yep, because you know that's what our

840
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: brains do. They need to have activity. So well, that's

841
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: not reality, that's that's me, that's in that perspective, So

842
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: what do I need? It has to I would say

843
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: to him, David long distance, I said, once, you know,

844
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: if you're going to court me, you need to send

845
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: me flowers. And because I hadn't heard from him, he's

846
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: not good on text, he hated the phone and he said,

847
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: it would be my honor to send you flowers. And

848
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: I got flowers from the most beautiful florist in Beverly

849
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: Hills like that afternoon. And sometimes I just need to

850
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: be asked. And the other thing I've learned is to

851
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: not come with my anger, figure out what it is,

852
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: and then force myself to come with the vulnerability. And

853
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: that's what he can hear. So if I see to him,

854
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: it makes me feel you know, I get insecure or

855
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: you know when you're not calling me or now I

856
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: have failed over and over at that because I definitely

857
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: have had a very kind of like tough girl thing

858
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: to protect that part of me. But but David isn't

859
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: amazing man, and he stuck through that time to to

860
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: uh so that now I feel more safe to come

861
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: with the vulnerability. And I think that that actually is

862
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: enhanced since we got married.

863
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: Love that that's fantastic.

864
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, always ask for what you need, and then like,

865
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: if you're feeling insecure, is your best friend? You can't

866
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: say to your best friend, I hate to bother you

867
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: and I can't believe I'm this age and I'm still

868
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: feeling this. Can you just give me a hug? Or

869
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: can you just call me once a day or just

870
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: for just a lot of times you realize once you

871
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: express it and your need is met and they do

872
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: their best to you know, because they'd want to take

873
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: care of you, then that fear you realize it was

874
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: just in your head from.

875
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: An old time, old wounds, old wound zone times.

876
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to be honest with someone else when

877
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: you can't be honest with yourself, though, So I think

878
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: it's like really worth noting that you had to do

879
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: a lot to get there, to even be able to

880
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: say what you need. I mean, that's really a lot

881
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 2: of beautiful work exactly instill the place. So it says

882
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: we'll relive every hook up, every scandal, every backstep, blackmail explosion,

883
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: every week removal together, secrets are revealed as so you

884
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: guys are rewatching. I'm curious because Lisa Rena played Taylor.

885
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: She's on the Roorehousewives? Do you watch the Housewives? Are

886
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: you gonna have her on? Do you still keep in

887
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: touch with her? Like?

888
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: Who else are you are you wanting to have come

889
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 3: on the show?

890
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: I don't keep in touch with her. I did watch

891
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: The Housewives, yep, and she comes on later. So we

892
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: just started and we're dealing. We're just having on the

893
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: people who were on in the beginning, so got it.

894
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: And I haven't even appeared. I come in in episode

895
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: fifteen and we're like at eight, so really, and Laura Lighton,

896
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: who played Sydney, comes on a little after me. So

897
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: we're having two of the guys. We're gonna have Josie

898
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: Bassett on. We're gonna have of course as they come on,

899
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, Heather, all the original characters. So when we

900
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: get to thoselater season, absolutely we want to have everyone on.

901
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: It's so fun when you have, yeah, people on because

902
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: you just have that much more, that many more stories.

903
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: Is there there's a reboot? Is it happening?

904
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: You've been developing it for a few years and it's

905
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: in the works. There are people with higher pay grade

906
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: figuring out above us. But yeah, Laura and I have

907
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: been producing that and putting that together for quite a

908
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: while and that's kind of all I can say. But

909
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: it's definitely some things in the works.

910
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: Well, if you need a forty year old mom on

911
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: the show.

912
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 2: To cause some drama, yeah right, you're hearring, I.

913
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: Know, because you know that. The other thing with doing

914
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: a show like that, there was so much drama in

915
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: the script, like you would get the script every week

916
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: and just be like, what I'm doing? What did you read?

917
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: And it got that kind of out of your system,

918
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like right, kind of

919
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: exhausted after doing it on h on screen. But yes,

920
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: definitely need a troublemaker. I am sure.

921
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 2: Well, daff thank you so much for coming the show

922
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: everyone listened to still the Place on iHeart or wherever

923
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: you listen to your podcasts. Yeah, Daphnie, you're the best.

924
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Nice to see you too, to

925
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: see you, nice to meet you. Hopefully I'll see you

926
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: on one of the next cons or a movie we'll

927
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: do eventually. We'll eventually do the movie together.

928
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: I would love to.

929
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: We'll figure it out. Okay, all right, love talk to

930
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: you soon. Bye, all right, bye guy. Her perspective, I know,

931
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: I love her. She was she was so nice every

932
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: time I, you know, worked there. But I don't remember

933
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: that one scene she was talking about someone have to

934
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 2: go rewatch that. But I just love her and she's

935
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: she was always so so great. I'll be googling. No,

936
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: you won't, but I will.

937
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 3: Oh, I will.

938
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: Okay, got thirty minutes till the boy wakes up, so

939
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna speedate yourself.

940
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 3: Yep, I know that I'm gonna go.

941
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so I have not gotten I saw Alan pop

942
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: his little engine. You've gotten No, I've gotten no text

943
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: about the closets, so we should go down and see

944
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: if he's opened it. I don't need to be involved.

945
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: I just love in surprises make me. Those are two

946
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: of my favorite things. I was thinking i'd get like

947
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: a babe of the closet, but maybe maybe I say

948
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: something when we come down.

949
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, stand by. We'll let you know what happens next week.

950
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 3: Stay tuned, all right, Bye guys,