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<v Speaker 2>Mannix will stop by. We'll recap what we saw last night,

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<v Speaker 2>wild final thirty seconds as the Knicks go up two

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<v Speaker 2>to oh and the Sixers down twenty. The Nuggets come

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<v Speaker 2>of The Dan Patrick Show. The nixt scored eight points

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<v Speaker 2>in the final twenty seven seconds to beat the Sixers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the first time a team won a playoff game

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<v Speaker 2>after trailing by five or more in the final thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seconds since the Miami heat rallied to beat San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Game six of the twenty thirteen NBA Finals.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh, how stead of a day, stall of a day,

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<v Speaker 4>Statuta day, Statuta day, this.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the stat of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lakers led for forty four minutes and fifty six

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<v Speaker 2>seconds of last night's loss. The teams were tied for

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes and twenty seconds. Denver led for a total

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<v Speaker 2>of forty four seconds. And in case you're wondering, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know you are, NBA teams winning the first two

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<v Speaker 2>games of a best of seven series have an all

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<v Speaker 2>time winning percentage of just over ninety two percent.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, oh oh yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, start of the day, start of the day.

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<v Speaker 6>Scotup day startup, dat day startup?

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<v Speaker 2>Alrighty, whole question for hour two is gonna be one

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<v Speaker 2>seaton O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 4>We got up there right now, team down to most

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<v Speaker 4>likely to make a comeback. Sixers have jumped the head

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<v Speaker 4>big in that one, followed by the Magic I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if the Lakers coming in and last is more

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<v Speaker 4>about the Lakers or that it's the Nuggets that they're playing.

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<v Speaker 4>It might just be more a comment on the strength

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<v Speaker 4>of the Nuggets than it might be a commentary about

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<v Speaker 4>the Lakers as well. That the Nuggets. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 4>Nuggets aren't unbeatable. When you think of great like all

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<v Speaker 4>time great teams, the Nuggets don't strike me as an

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<v Speaker 4>all time great team. However, now if they win another title,

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<v Speaker 4>like you can't be an all time great team. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think like the two thousand and eight Celtics, like

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<v Speaker 4>they won a title, you would think they were. They

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<v Speaker 4>won many titles, you know, like the Bears when they

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<v Speaker 4>won their Super Bowl. Okay, yeah, yeah, you know when

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<v Speaker 4>the Giants won, or you know, the Mets won the

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<v Speaker 4>World Series and then they didn't win after that, the

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<v Speaker 4>Giants when they won and then they didn't win after that.

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<v Speaker 4>With those with that group, like you got to win

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<v Speaker 4>at least two titles, two titles maybe in three years,

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<v Speaker 4>then you can venture into wow, they were a great team.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Marvin, the Nuggets are looking like a Jugger. Not

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<v Speaker 7>right now, so if they win this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then I think we can look at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>are they a great like you know, Connecticut's basketball team,

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<v Speaker 2>the men's basketball team. What they did in the tournament

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<v Speaker 2>the last two years would probably dictate their one of

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<v Speaker 2>the great teams of all time. Now, they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>star power, but if I look at the margin of victory,

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<v Speaker 2>they have dominated people like we haven't seen before. Now

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<v Speaker 2>do you consider Connecticut a one of the great teams

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<v Speaker 2>of all time? Do I put them up there with

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<v Speaker 2>Duke or UNLV go back to UCLA days, Kentucky tem

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do they fit into that category? And they

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<v Speaker 2>probably don't because people if I said, hey, how about

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<v Speaker 2>all those great players on Connecticut, the first name you

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<v Speaker 2>bring up is the coach. But a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>other teams you bring up their players and their coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Denver a great team?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, point, Marvin, I were talking about this, I would

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<v Speaker 8>be close to taking the Nuggets versus the field in

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<v Speaker 8>the NBA playoffs a week ago.

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<v Speaker 9>I would have done it probably.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, they feel that they feel like they have

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<v Speaker 8>the least question marks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the only other team that you view as being

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<v Speaker 2>on par with them would be Boston as far as

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<v Speaker 2>you know what they did over the course of the

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<v Speaker 2>season and that they're got talent. Uh, they're They're a

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<v Speaker 2>great team. The Boston Celtics have the potential.

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<v Speaker 3>To be a great team.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if people look at Denver and go,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a great player, they have the best player

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<v Speaker 2>in the game. But I think people would be hard

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<v Speaker 2>pressed to go. You know who else plays for that team?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>You know Jamal Murray from last night hadn't had an

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<v Speaker 2>All Star appearance. Aaron Gordon, he was a slam dunk champ,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Porter. Oh, he's the guy whose brother bet against

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<v Speaker 2>his own team. He used to be the guy with

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<v Speaker 2>the back is yes, yes, yes, What would you rather

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<v Speaker 2>have talk about your bad back or talk about your

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<v Speaker 2>brother who bet against his own team?

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Malone or Michael Malone?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, once again, you're not I don't think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we don't give Denver enough credit because of where they play,

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<v Speaker 2>or how many times are you watching those games?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they exciting to watch?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe it's East Coast bias here, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you're gonna go. Man, I'd put those Nuggets

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<v Speaker 2>up against Kobe and Shack. I'd put them up against

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Scottie. I'd put them up against you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Birds Celtic, Like you're not doing that, and those are

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, some of the greatest teams of all time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, so if they win this year, they might end

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<v Speaker 7>up being in the chem Elijau on ninety four ninety

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<v Speaker 7>five Rockies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>Like you know what, for a two year stretch, they

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<v Speaker 7>were the best team in basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>The best player in basketball wasn't playing them, Mike. But

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hold out against I know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>people do. I mean, they hold it against Lebron he

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<v Speaker 2>won a title, win a bubble. You know, we're we're

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<v Speaker 2>we conveniently look for ways to strengthen an argument or

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<v Speaker 2>take away your strength on your argument.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Paul, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Think you're dead on about the Nuggets is the lack

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<v Speaker 8>of coverage makes them seem like they're not great, But

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<v Speaker 8>it's they don't have any drama. They win a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of ball games now. Their players really get in any trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>Their coach he gets a little fired up sometimes, but

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<v Speaker 8>they don't play to the media.

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<v Speaker 9>They remind me a little little bit more.

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<v Speaker 8>Of the Spurs fifteen years ago, where they're constant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I know they knew at being constant, but I think

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<v Speaker 8>an educated basketball person if they were saying, I'm going

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<v Speaker 8>to bet on the NBA Finals a week ago and

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<v Speaker 8>you could only pick one team, I bet most people

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<v Speaker 8>would pick the the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, they're that much of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you look at the coverage, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers are the Dallas Cowboys. Now, the Lakers have

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<v Speaker 2>had better results than the Cowboys have, but nobody, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>comes close to the Cowboys for coverage. All of the

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<v Speaker 2>other NFL teams combined don't get more coverage than Dallas does.

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<v Speaker 2>And with the Lakers, what team gets more coverage than

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers do? No One, No one. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>they barely get into the playoffs and you know they're

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<v Speaker 2>down two. But this will be about the Lakers. It

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<v Speaker 2>won't be about Denver being up to oh and it

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<v Speaker 2>should be because Joker, once again is doing things that

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's done before. Nobody's done this in forty eight years,

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<v Speaker 2>have at least twenty five points, at least twenty rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>at least ten assists. He has done that in four

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<v Speaker 2>career playoff games. The rest of the NBA all time

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<v Speaker 2>as a total of four. That's Will twice, Dave Collens once,

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<v Speaker 2>Kareem did it once. So these are incredible numbers that

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<v Speaker 2>he's putting up, and it just doesn't feel like that

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<v Speaker 2>coverage is there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost need to be, and it's hard to do that

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<v Speaker 2>where you're trying how do you manufacture coverage? Now the Mothership?

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<v Speaker 2>How much coverage are they going to have with Denver?

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<v Speaker 2>Their NBA today will be about what the Lakers and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Sixers. It probably won't be about the Knicks,

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<v Speaker 2>and it won't be about Denver.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, pung, Yeah, being consistently good, there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of storylines to play with. It's like over the years

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<v Speaker 8>of Saint Louis Cardinals in baseball, Hey guess what, They're

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<v Speaker 8>going to win eighty eight games and get into the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 8>probably do some damage, you know, there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of drama around the franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we are trying to give a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>love to the Knicks because it is New York and

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<v Speaker 2>they're a good story. This year they won in dramatic

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<v Speaker 2>fashion and uh boy, give credit to Mike Breen. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the call the final twenty seven seconds eight on.

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<v Speaker 10>The twenty four Devincenzo contor de Brunson side step three

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<v Speaker 10>plutter shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Hets God took the bouncing one in two point game,

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<v Speaker 3>We'll not loose.

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<v Speaker 10>Then Maxi gets knocked down, Heart takes it away. I'll

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<v Speaker 10>top to Devin Chanzoh his shot, don't go hardst teign

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<v Speaker 10>the rebound. Hartenstein gets it out to Adenoby defen chenzho

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<v Speaker 10>a three bag dam next take a one point lead,

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<v Speaker 10>but thirty eight seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Remaining, Damn Mike, don't win the Sports Emmy right in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me.

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<v Speaker 3>That was great double bang bang, Yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 7>The crazy part about this next team they have a

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<v Speaker 7>small market feel yes, like and grind. They feel like Memphis.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, it's a great call. Uh So a wild

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<v Speaker 2>finished there elsewhere. Zack Wilson got traded to the Broncos. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>how much of this him being a bust is on

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets. Like justin fields, you'll find you know, Bears

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<v Speaker 2>fans will say, well, the Bears did this to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain teams tend to do this. You know, the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>did this to Sam Darnold, you know, like they let

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<v Speaker 2>him down, you know, didn't give him enough weapons. The

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots did this to Mac Jones. But Zach Wilson now

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<v Speaker 2>going to Denver. I think they're going to draft a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably should because it's Zack Wilson and Jarrett Stidham.

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<v Speaker 2>But Zach Wilson with Sean Payton, Okay, I'd like to see.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he got out of the Aaron Rodgers, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, shadow and the Jets dysfunction, and now he

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<v Speaker 2>goes to Denver. Okay, he took a flyer on him,

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of talent. Let's see if Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 2>can sprinkle some magic quarterback dust on him and he's

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<v Speaker 2>only twenty four. I think that's the key. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he came in and titled you know, sometimes you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm coming in, Like you got to earn it.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you get into the league, no matter what league

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<v Speaker 2>it is, that's when the job starts. Sometimes you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm second pick overall, number one pick of now's when

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<v Speaker 2>you got to work because it could have come to

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<v Speaker 2>you very easy in college.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't come easy in the pros.

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<v Speaker 2>And those who separate themselves know that they put in

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<v Speaker 2>the time, the extra time, and they want to be

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<v Speaker 2>great and they go in as if now I have

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<v Speaker 2>to prove myself, not I'm coming in make way for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think I'm going to sound like a dad

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<v Speaker 4>or something. But I think that we just give enough

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<v Speaker 4>credit to the fact that it's hard. It's actually hard

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<v Speaker 4>to do that, even if you are the number two

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<v Speaker 4>overall pick or the number one overall pick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard, yeah, And I don't know if they understand

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<v Speaker 2>that because in college it's not a job as much

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<v Speaker 2>as when you get to the pros. It's a job,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's all year long, and it's all encompassing,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to embrace that, you know, Michael Vick

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<v Speaker 2>did not. Football came easy to Michael Vick, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he put in the time. Well, he's talked

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<v Speaker 2>about not putting in the time Kyler Murray. Football was

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<v Speaker 2>so easy for him in high school college. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>get to the pros. Now is when you have to

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<v Speaker 2>out smart people. You can't out athletic people. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>really hard, and you might for a little while, and

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<v Speaker 2>then after a while they catch up to you or

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<v Speaker 2>you slow down a little bit. It's now I got

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<v Speaker 2>to put in the time. Now I got to put in.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to outstud somebody outthink somebody. You know. Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>puts in all this time and he's still thirsty. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got everything. Now is when it's like, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be an all timer. Caleb Williams is talking about, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going after number twelve. He's going after Tom Brady. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna be reminded of this. But you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to put in the time. Players have to see you

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<v Speaker 2>put in the time. You show up, you're still there.

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<v Speaker 11>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Pioli was the GM with the Patriots for a

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<v Speaker 2>while and he said there are times when you'd see

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<v Speaker 2>the light on and you knew Tom was still there

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody else was going home.

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<v Speaker 12>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Zach Wilson put in the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, I think the Jets did a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>damage to him psychologically, like hey, get out there. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna bench you. Hey, get out there. Hey we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bench you. Hey, get out there. Hey, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go out there anymore. Ian Rodgers wasn't there

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<v Speaker 2>to tutor him. Remember, we were like, oh man, he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to learn under Aaron Rodgers well,

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<v Speaker 2>unless he's in an ayahuasca tent, he not learning anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was kind of hung out to drive there.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'd like to see if he actually

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<v Speaker 2>has the talent that he wants to be great. But

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<v Speaker 2>you just can't mail it in. He can't just show

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<v Speaker 2>up and go here I am. It's you've got to work,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to put in the time the little things, Yes, Paulin.

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<v Speaker 8>It's interesting. Zach Wilson never got any better. His rookie

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<v Speaker 8>year was not that great. He started thirteen games. He

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<v Speaker 8>was a fifty six percent passer, twenty three hundred yards,

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<v Speaker 8>nine touchdowns, eleven picks, and his quarterback rating was seventy,

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<v Speaker 8>which isn't horrendous. Josh Allen's rookie year, his completion percentage

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<v Speaker 8>was fifty two. He had ten touchdowns to twelve picks,

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<v Speaker 8>about the same. His quarterback rating was sixty seven. Just

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<v Speaker 8>on stats. Zach Wilson's rookie year was better than Josh Allens.

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<v Speaker 8>But Josh Allen got better. They surrounded him with wide

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<v Speaker 8>receivers and other players. Josh Allen got way better. But

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<v Speaker 8>similar rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Years, well, there are times when his rookie year I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Josh Allen knows how to play like

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<v Speaker 2>he just seemed like he was. He had so much

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<v Speaker 2>talent playing at Wyoming. Then you get in and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, everybody was an All American. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>you know, was something. And that's when you have to

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<v Speaker 2>put in the time. And Josh has become a great quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's same thing with Herbert and Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>and Tua, like you got you got to put time in.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to go into the lab, as they say,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you don't, then you know, the league will

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<v Speaker 2>catch you and then next thing you know, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>backup quarterback someplace. And maybe that's what Zach Wilson is.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's what Sam Darnold is. Well, can you unbust yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>You know Baker Mayfield did, because I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>really good and then all of a sudden he lost

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<v Speaker 2>his job and then he goes to Carolina for a

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<v Speaker 2>little while and then he goes to Tampa.

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<v Speaker 3>Well he unbusted himself.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, PAULI, this is going way back, But I was

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<v Speaker 8>trying to think of a quarterback that unbusted himself. Jim

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<v Speaker 8>Plunkett was he Number one pick of the draft of

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<v Speaker 8>the Patriots. Yeah, he would have been a bust before

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<v Speaker 8>that term was invented. Then it went on to start

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<v Speaker 8>two Super Bowls for the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 9>And win both.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that might be the only version of a true.

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<v Speaker 5>Bust that got out of it unbusting.

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<v Speaker 9>Unbusting.

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<v Speaker 8>Alex Smith was a disappointment with the Niners his first

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<v Speaker 8>four years, but then he picked it up. He was

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<v Speaker 8>a slow burn, but he was going to Bustville for

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<v Speaker 8>a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>But he lost his job to Colin Kaepernick and to

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes. Like it almost helped his career that he

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<v Speaker 2>lost his job to Mahomes and Mahomes has become one

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<v Speaker 2>of the great quarterbacks of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, okay, all right, I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Alex Smith, I think, by all accounts,

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<v Speaker 2>had a good career, But he was also in the

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<v Speaker 2>same draft as Aaron Rodgers. And Alex Smith goes number one,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, Rogers goes at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>first first round. Yes, and I mean even Kaepernick, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who lost his job through the first time, went

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<v Speaker 2>to a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I mean, all right, let me take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Mannix will join us we'll ask him the poll

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<v Speaker 2>question here and an interesting stat on Joker because I

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<v Speaker 2>was asking Paul Leye. I can't remember an MVP winner

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<v Speaker 2>who didn't take that many shots or as many shots

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<v Speaker 2>as you would think for a great score. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Russell wasn't a score, so I wouldn't factor him in.

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<v Speaker 2>But how many MVPs in history have taken more shots

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<v Speaker 2>in a season than the Joker has? And I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to guess probably ninety five percent of them, maybe even more.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got an interesting stat on Joker with the

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<v Speaker 2>shots that he takes. All right back after this Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd mentioned I had some Joker stats for you. Percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of games where this player took the most shots for

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<v Speaker 2>his team this season Luca eighty five five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the games, Shay Gilgis Alexander eighty six percent of the games,

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<v Speaker 2>Joker fifty three percent. Also, I was wondering where, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you looked at MVP seasons, where would Joker rank

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<v Speaker 2>among these players the fewest shots for an MVP in

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<v Speaker 2>a season. And we got our stats guy, uh John

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<v Speaker 2>Tuvey working on this. Joker was nineteenth in the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>during the regular season in shot attempts. Four teams had

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<v Speaker 2>two players who averaged more shot attempts than Joker did

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<v Speaker 2>this year, the seventy six Ers, Celtic Suns, and the Mavericks.

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<v Speaker 3>The stead of the day, that of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it comes the stat of the daya stat of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, stat.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Here it comes the stat of the the stat of

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<v Speaker 2>the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official

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<v Speaker 2>trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Chris Mannix. He'll

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<v Speaker 2>be in Boston tomorrow night, game two between the Heat

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<v Speaker 2>and Celtics. Always great to have him on the Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Illustrated NBA senior writer. Let me start with Joker. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you remember an MVP in a season who averaged less shots?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if Steve Nash.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be somebody, but how many MVPs average fewer shots

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<v Speaker 2>than Joker does during the regular season?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, top of my head, Steve Nash would be the

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<v Speaker 12>only one that comes to mind because he was a

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<v Speaker 12>playmaker and a lot of his production. The reason was

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<v Speaker 12>the MVP came off of CIS. But but Jogicic just

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<v Speaker 12>does it and dominates in unique ways every game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>watching that game last night, it was the offensive rebounding

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<v Speaker 12>that was dominant. It was the playmaking that was dan

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<v Speaker 12>One thing that struck me in that final sequence where

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<v Speaker 12>Jamal Murray made that shot. If you rewind the tape

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<v Speaker 12>a little bit and you look at the moments after

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<v Speaker 12>the defensive rebound by Denver, the instant they got the

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<v Speaker 12>ball in their hands, Jokic was already orchestrating that final play.

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<v Speaker 12>He was waving guys around and gave them a position,

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<v Speaker 12>she said, somebody, and I forgot who was over from

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<v Speaker 12>the right side of the play to the left, essentially

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<v Speaker 12>to clear room for what was a developing two man

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<v Speaker 12>game between himself and Jamal Murray. So great shot by

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<v Speaker 12>Jamal Murray in the face of Anthony Davis. But give

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<v Speaker 12>Jokics credit in part for kind of clearing that room

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<v Speaker 12>for him, giving him enough space to operate.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 12>It's it's plays like that that make nikolea Jokic so special.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to understand how a Laker fan can spin

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<v Speaker 2>this in a positive way. That you were up twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and it feels like they're trying to win games in

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<v Speaker 2>the first half, like let's go out and use all

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<v Speaker 2>of our energy, and then they limped to the finish line.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been close with Denver even last year when they

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<v Speaker 2>got swept, they weren't getting blown out. So I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out, if I'm a Laker fan, what positives

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<v Speaker 2>do I take away from losing back to back games.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, I think among the positives was how well

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<v Speaker 12>D'Angelo Russell played in the first half. How well Anthony

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<v Speaker 12>Davis played in the first half. Both those guys seem

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<v Speaker 12>to run out of gas though in the second. I

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<v Speaker 12>mean Davis, you know he's had He had a great

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<v Speaker 12>regular season, played seventy six games, the most games he's

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<v Speaker 12>played in his NBA career, averaged more minutes per game

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<v Speaker 12>than he has at a time since his New Orleans days.

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<v Speaker 12>But you start to wonder watching a series like this,

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<v Speaker 12>if there's enough gas left in the tank for Anthony

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<v Speaker 12>Davis to be a dominant two way player for thirty

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<v Speaker 12>five thirty six minutes. I mean on the defensive end.

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<v Speaker 12>In the fourth quarter, Nicol Jokic was was great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>an Ad is as good as he is defensively, he

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<v Speaker 12>just couldn't do much to stop him in the post.

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<v Speaker 12>And with Russell, Dan I said coming into this series,

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<v Speaker 12>the only way the Lakers can win is if de'angelo

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<v Speaker 12>Russell is the kind of player we've seen in the

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<v Speaker 12>regular season and not in the games he's played against Denver.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean the Conference finals last year, Dan, the Nuggets

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<v Speaker 12>play D'angela Russell right off the floor. I mean he

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<v Speaker 12>was benched in the Conference finals first half of game two,

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<v Speaker 12>he had eighteen points, made six of seven and three

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<v Speaker 12>point range. He was one of four from three point

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<v Speaker 12>range the rest of the way, just five points in

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<v Speaker 12>that second half. I mean, you can draw a line

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<v Speaker 12>between D'Angelo Russell, you know, being a effective offensive player

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<v Speaker 12>to that fifteen point lead the Lakers built to you

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<v Speaker 12>know that, you know, collapse so to speak in the

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<v Speaker 12>second half. So both those guys have to find a

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<v Speaker 12>way to play four full quarters to give the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>A chance better chance of coming back. The Lakers are

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<v Speaker 2>seventy six ers, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 12>Give the seventies sixers a better chance of coming back.

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<v Speaker 12>But that was just heartbreaking. I mean, the Knicks, Reggie Millard,

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<v Speaker 12>the seventy six ers down the stretch, like the run

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<v Speaker 12>they had in that final fifteen to twenty seconds, whatever

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<v Speaker 12>it was, I haven't seen anything like it an MSG

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<v Speaker 12>since Reggie Miller did what he did so many years ago.

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 12>And I mean credit the Knicks that just they just

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<v Speaker 12>never stopped playing, like you know. Jalen Brunson has had

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 12>a terrible series statistically, he has shot under thirty percent

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 12>in the first two games of this series, but he

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 12>still has the confidence to make that shot. Dante DiVincenzo

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 12>misses one shot on the wing, makes the second at

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 12>the top of the key in Philadelphia, I mean, what

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 12>are we doing down the stretch there? You call a

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 12>time out when you need it. On the inbounds, you don't.

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.640
<v Speaker 12>If you're Kyle Lowry, don't just flip the ball in

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 12>to Tyrese Maxi on that inbound play.

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 5>Don't put him in the position that he was in.

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<v Speaker 12>I know, a lot of the focus dan is on

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 12>the refereeing and should they have called the foul down

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 12>the stretch maybe, But the Sixers.

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 5>Blew that game.

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 12>They couldn't come up with an offensive rebound or defensive

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 12>rebound when they needed it, and they made multiple poor

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 12>plays in that final minute that allowed the Knicks to,

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 12>you know, keep that door open to win that game.

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 3>What do the Nuggets have to do to be labeled

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<v Speaker 3>one of the great teams?

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 12>I mean, multiple championships is kind of It kind of

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 12>opens the door for you. It puts you in that

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 12>rarefied air of teams that have won multiple championships, and

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 12>then you kind of bump them up a tier from there, like,

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 12>you know, does three championships put them in the mix

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 12>with the early aughts, Lakers that won free straight with

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 12>Shaq and Kobe, the Celtics and the Lakers of the

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 12>nineteen age. You start talking about them as being in

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 12>that conversation. So I think it starts with two championships

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 12>and then you build from there.

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of like the Rocket. It's when they

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 2>won back to back titles that that that might be.

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.439
<v Speaker 2>Because you know, when we're saying, you know, do I

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>think they're one of the great teams? I don't, But

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I think if you're gonna be labeled great, it's got

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>to be more than one year.

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:17.360
<v Speaker 12>I think they might be, though, Dan, because it's not

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 12>like this is the the final chapter of their their run.

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:24.120
<v Speaker 12>They've got most of that team under long term contract,

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 12>and most of that team is in or in the

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 12>case of someone like Michael Porter Junior, just entering the

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 12>prime of their careers. I mean, Porter Junior's year was sensational.

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 12>It's a guy that you know, many people wondered if

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 12>you would ever be able to play the kind of

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 12>season that he did, played what like eighty plus games

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 12>this year. I mean that that's just an incredible accomplishment

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 12>for MPJA. I mean, Jokic is incredibly durable. Mury's had

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.120
<v Speaker 12>his bumps along the way, but he's still young. I mean,

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 12>you know, anything can happen this year because the playoffs

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 12>in the Western Conference especially are going to be brutal.

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 12>But I think this team's window is probably three or

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 12>four more years to win championships.

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Chris Mannix, the senior writer for the

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 2>NBA with Sports Illustrated. But Joker, now with the third

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 2>MVP coming up, like now, all of a sudden, we

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.959
<v Speaker 2>start to get into a little bit more interesting conversation

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>with him. That a nice story. Oh I got another MVP. Well,

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 2>let's see if you can win a time. Oh you

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>got a title, Now you get another MVP. Favor to

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 2>win another title. At what point does he start to

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 2>get into that top twenty players of all time conversation?

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 12>I mean, I think we're there, aren't we. I mean,

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 12>he's a top twenty player of all time. I'd have

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 12>to make it, you know, I haven't made a list lately,

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 12>but yeah, I mean, a third MVP. There's only a

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 12>handful of guys that have done that.

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 5>So at some point the.

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 12>Results speak for themselves and the completeness of his game

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:56.719
<v Speaker 12>at that position.

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, If I said Durant or Joker, who's going to

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.360
<v Speaker 2>be ranked higher when their careers are over?

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 12>When their careers are over, I would say Jokic will

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 12>probably be ranked higher.

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yis, that's a.

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 12>Tougher one because Giannis is still in his prime, and

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.199
<v Speaker 12>Giannis this year he's gonna finish top five MVP.

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 5>He's not gonna fish inside the top three.

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 12>But he had a insane statistical season, and he is a.

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 5>Two way player.

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 12>He's as good defensively most nights as he is offensively.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 12>I'm gonna say Jokic, but it's.

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 3>A lot closer Karl Malone.

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 12>I mean Jokic probably because of the championship and whatever

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 12>happens over the next three I think he's gonna get

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 12>at least one more so. I think three MVPs and

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 12>two championships nudges him above Malone. Der No, he just

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 12>being mean.

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 5>Probably Jokic.

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 12>I mean Dirk revolutionized the game, made shooting three, made

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 12>half the things that Jokic does now en vogue. I

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 12>mean Jokic probably in a way learned some of the

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 12>game from from Dirk Davitsky or or figured out how

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 12>to play a certain way because of Dirk Davitsky. I

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 12>just think I just think Jokic is the completeness of

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 12>his game, Like he's a playmaker where Dirk wasn't, not

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 12>to that level. He's a rebounder I think better than Dirk.

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 12>I mean, you can you give the ball to Dirk

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 12>in the high post in his prime and good night,

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 12>that's an eighteen footer that's going in seventy five percent

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 12>of the time. You give the ball to Jokic and

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 12>you don't know what's gonna happen. He could shoot a

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 12>fadaway jump shot himself in a high percentage.

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 5>He can go to the basket.

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 12>You saw him get to the free throw line a

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 12>lot and down the stretch against Anthony Davis. Or he

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 12>can make the right play and find an open teammate

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 12>for three. Jokic's ability to dissect the defense I think

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 12>probably separates it.

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 5>From Dirk as well.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 12>Larry Bird I get so much hate mail from like

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 12>a hate more hate message than usual because of this debate,

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 12>probably Jokic as well.

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 5>I I you know, and I.

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Wait, do you really mean that? I Are you crying

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 3>right now?

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm not crying.

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 12>I'm I'm I'm trying to think of what I'm missing

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 12>here with I mean, look, you're talking about all time

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 12>great players and scorers.

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, what they do.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 12>Larry was more clutch in big Larry had the weight

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 12>of the world on his team down the stretch in

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 12>big moments, and he made shots that that we hadn't

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 12>seen in that era. But again, the the the completeness

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 12>of Jokic's game, I gotta put him, Yeah, I gotta

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 12>put him up there. I mean, I'm your whittling guys

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 12>off the potential top twenty list. I'm bumping him ahead

0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 12>of all these guys. So I think I think we're there.

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 12>I think we're there with NICOLEA. Jokicez as a top

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 12>twenty player.

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 2>It feels like the Celtics are hard to root for nationally,

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>hard to buy into because all we're doing. You know,

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>there's certain teams in certain sports where you go like Cowboys, Hey,

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 2>thirteen regular season wins, I don't care, what are you

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>going to do in the playoffs. The Celtics are there,

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>like a wonderful regular season.

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Now you got to win a title.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I know, I think that's fair. You know, how

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 12>many years now, six seven years in a row or

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 12>six seven years total. We've seen the Celtics at least

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 12>the conference finals, NBA Finals, you know, a couple of

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 12>years back, and have been to the mountaintop, but have

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 12>not yet won a championship.

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 5>And you mentioned.

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 12>The the hard to root for part of it is

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 12>when you go through a regular season that's effectively over

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 12>by like Ash Wednesday, like for them, like you're you're

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 12>not going to get behind a team like that. I

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 12>think part of the skepticism, though, is that there is

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 12>a belief national that when the games on the line,

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.719
<v Speaker 12>Jason Tatum is not as good as some of the

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 12>other players in key moments like where would you rank

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 12>Jason Tatum among the guys that you would trust with

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 12>the ball in their hands down the stretch among playoff teams, Dan,

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 12>we could probably sit here in name six to seven

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 12>guys that you know many people would.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 5>Take in those moments. So I don't think a lot

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 5>of that is fair.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 12>I think that Tatum has taken a step back this

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 12>year in a way to allow Jalen Brown to keep growing,

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 12>to allow Porzingis to be a twenty point per game score,

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 12>to allow.

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 5>Drew Holiday to get his shots.

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 12>But I think there's a perception out there that in tight,

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 12>competitive games, Jason Tatum is going to be not a liability,

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 12>but not going to be the greatest option in those moments.

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 5>I disagree with it.

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 12>I think he's going to prove in these playoffs that

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 12>he is an elite fourth quarter score, an elite crunch

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 12>time player, can play out of the high post, the

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 12>low post and beat you in a variety different ways.

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 12>But that is one of the skepticisms that people have

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 12>about Boston in this playoffs, that they've won so many games,

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 12>huge margin of victory, blowing teams out across the field

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 12>when it gets tight late in games.

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Can they rely on Jason Tate? Good to talk to you, buddy,

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us as always.

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 12>Can I ask the question Dan before I go. I've

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 12>been watching, of course, and I understand you're kind of

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 12>you make me a short list for your potential replacements.

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 5>Is that's what's happening last night?

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>No? No, I just had somebody who contacted me and

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I was a little bit surprised that the person said,

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>do I put my name in the hat?

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 3>And I said for what? And he said, to replace you?

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>And I said, no, no hat yet but I mean,

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if the dan Nets want to

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 2>continue to do this.

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 3>But are you throwing your name in the hat?

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 5>I would I would like to formally.

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Formally my name. Can we get a hat? Well?

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, how do you guys feel about what Mannis just said?

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 8>We're going to need time to process this. This is

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 8>out of nowhere.

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 3>No one saw this, Marvin, what do you think NBA

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 3>talk all day?

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, okay, Todd.

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 7>I love Chris.

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 5>That's excellent news that is interested in that.

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.919
<v Speaker 2>So that's your choice. If I run by some other

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 2>candidates for you, you're taking Mannix.

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh that's really putting me on the spot.

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 13>Ross Tucker is a good guy.

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if he's interested.

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 7>But I love Chris Mannicks and I will leave it

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 7>at that.

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 4>See what about you? I think Chris would be fantastic.

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know that necessarily I want to be much

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 4>like a Tucker at I don't know if I'm going

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 4>to be a Manni set either, but I think that

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 4>I think Chris would be fantastic.

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 12>Pauline, can I Dan just just to let me let

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 12>me make a briefcase here, right, so I have a

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 12>good relationship obviously with the Dnnetts.

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 5>As you saw there PAULI and I Vermon Vermont.

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 12>Well, I was gonna say, Paul, you and I Vermont neighbors,

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 12>like we're yes, you know, we're kindred spirits up there.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 12>Uh proximity, Dan, I could seamlessly move to Connecticut continue

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 12>doing that show right there in that studio.

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 5>No issue with that.

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 12>And look, I know you you've said that you want

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 12>to differentiate the next host from you a little bit.

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 5>Why you said you weren't considering the dn Nettes.

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 12>Everybody loves you. Everybody hates me, So I mean that's

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 12>I think a nice, nice differentiator there.

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>There have to be some people who like yeah, I

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 2>mean haven't found them, but but we there has to

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 2>be somebody who likes Chris Mannings.

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 5>Members of Ricky Rubio's family maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, what was that? Uh? What was that Chris rock show?

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody hates Chris? Uh? Hello, we can bring that back.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody hates Chris. Come on in, all right, your name

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<v Speaker 2>is officially in the hat.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's Chris Mannix Sports Illustrated NBA. You're rider

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<v Speaker 2>per game by an NBA MVP, so this list includes

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<v Speaker 2>the Joker. This year, Joker averaged seventeen point seven shots

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<v Speaker 2>per game. Here are the players in NBA history. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Joker's on the list twice.

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<v Speaker 3>This year.

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<v Speaker 2>Of seventeen point nine twenty twenty one, it was seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>point seven. The other players the fewest shots for an MVP,

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<v Speaker 2>As we said, it's Steve Nash a little over eleven

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<v Speaker 2>shots per game in four, then he repeated in five

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<v Speaker 2>he bumped that up to thirteen point four shots per game.

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Malone averaged only sixteen shots per game the year

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<v Speaker 2>he won the NBA. Steph Curry averaged just under seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>shots a game in twenty fourteen, Tim Duncan twenty and

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<v Speaker 2>two seventeen point two shots per game, Dirk Naviski MVP

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<v Speaker 2>just over seventeen shots per game, Jannis just over seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>shots per game. Then it's Joker. Lebron in twenty twelve

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<v Speaker 2>just under eighteen shots per game. Okay, I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>thought Joker would be a little bit higher on this lit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm shocked that Karl Malone only averaged sixteen shots per

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<v Speaker 2>game and won the MVP. Timmy, I'm not surprised Dirk

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit with seventeen shots, Janis seventeen and then

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron just under eighteen. But that was back in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, Pauli a R stick I just got back to

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<v Speaker 8>me said this algorithm only went back thirty years, So

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<v Speaker 8>you have to throw in Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson had

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<v Speaker 8>three MVPs in four seasons, and in those seasons he

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<v Speaker 8>averaged sixteen shot attempts, fifteen shot attempts, fourteen shot attempts. Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>he led the league and assists two of those three seasons.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>Patrick would be right in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get too many MVPs who weren't averaging, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at least seventeen eighteen, nineteen shots per game, but Nash

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<v Speaker 2>won it eleven shots per game. Mike in South Bend, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, man, I would have to respectfully disagree. You were

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<v Speaker 13>talking about great teams and needing a marquee name or

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<v Speaker 13>an marquee person. And I think the whole definition of

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<v Speaker 13>team is that there's not one individual that's above the others.

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<v Speaker 13>And I think that Yukon has the making of being

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<v Speaker 13>a great team, having embarrassed everybody in the NCAA Tournament

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<v Speaker 13>the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I said that Yukon should be recognized as a

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<v Speaker 2>great team. I don't know if they are. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at great teams of all time. If I look at

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<v Speaker 2>these two years, you can put those up against pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much anybody who's won titles in the last thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they just blew through everybody. Now, you can

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<v Speaker 2>say college basketball is watered down.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's say you took the last twenty years, who's

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<v Speaker 2>been more dominating than Connecticut these last two years. When

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<v Speaker 2>they get into the tournament, you could put them up

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<v Speaker 2>against anybody.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Pauling, and you can make the case that it's

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<v Speaker 8>tougher if Connectic could do it, because they're not going

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<v Speaker 8>to have Hill, Hurley and Latner for a session a

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<v Speaker 8>three or four year stretch. Yeah, I think their two

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<v Speaker 8>best players are gone from this year. They lost their

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<v Speaker 8>three best players from last year's team. There's no consistency

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<v Speaker 8>to their lineup, maybe light consistency.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think, you know, sometimes it's right in

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<v Speaker 2>front of us, but we don't acknowledge it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think Connecticut has been a great team, but we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no tune in factor of oh man, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to see this guy because it felt like every game,

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<v Speaker 2>every other game, it was somebody else who was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the star. But the only person you really

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<v Speaker 2>know is the coach, whereas with you know, Duke or Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>You know some of these other programs where you knew

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<v Speaker 2>the coach, but you also knew some of these star players.

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<v Speaker 3>John in La let me see if I can squeeze

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<v Speaker 3>in here.

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<v Speaker 11>John, Hey, guys, gone the poor guy. How's it going?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>John?

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<v Speaker 11>You know, yeah, you know, I've always been critical about

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<v Speaker 11>the Lakers, especially in the way they play. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>his shots selections, Lebron's and his shot attempts. I know

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<v Speaker 11>you're just talking about the shot attempts, but at the

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<v Speaker 11>same time, his shots selections, I mean, he's not he's

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<v Speaker 11>not Steph Curry. You know, he's shooting these three and

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<v Speaker 11>at the same time he's you know, minimizing his shot selections.

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<v Speaker 11>In the first half, you know, six in the game one,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, seven, eight, you know yesterday, and you know,

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<v Speaker 11>and then he expects to heat up, you know, like

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<v Speaker 11>he's twenty five, you know, and he's you know, thirty

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<v Speaker 11>some odd year years.

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<v Speaker 2>Old, and and you know, I think, and we're short

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<v Speaker 2>on time, John, thank you. I think Lebron is settling

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<v Speaker 2>for threes. Takes a whole lot more energy to be

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<v Speaker 2>driving to the hoop like he once did. Chris Haynes,

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<v Speaker 2>who was courtside for the next game last night, Will

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<v Speaker 2>John is coming up final hour on this Tuesday