WEBVTT - One on One: Scott Cohen (Max Medina) 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.680 I am all in. Kiss you, I am all in 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.320 with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay, hi everybody, 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.200 Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. We are graced 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:31.880 with the presence of one of the you know, the 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.440 best actors working out there. He is extremely versatile actor. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:42.080 Scott Cohen played Max Medino and Gilmore Girls as you know. Um, listen, Pal, 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.919 you know I love you. Yeah, okay, but I am 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.279 not happy with Max Medina. It's the first time I'm 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:52.040 watching the show. I didn't look and I don't know 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.120 if it's me or if it's just Luke that's having 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.200 this reaction. But why do you think this is bothering 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.680 me so much? I mean, besides, I would say that 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.360 it's who I mean, you know, there was competition from 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.800 the very beginning. It was like, you know, they put 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.839 they they didn't they met us head to head before 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.640 everything kind of fell apart from Max and went the 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.440 way of Luke. I mean, it's it's to the point, 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.240 it got to the point where there is you know, 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.839 team Max team Luke. Like online, I mean, you always 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.960 win obviously, Um, but it's uh, it's it's intense. It's 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.080 like it's a it's a it's a big competition for 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:34.919 Laura for lauralized love. It is for lauralized attention. Okay, 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.000 so here's here's the big question. I mean, not as Max, 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.200 but as but as Scott. Did you ever think that 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:45.120 it was inappropriate to date to date uh a mom 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:53.160 of a student. No, I don't think so. Um you 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:57.160 mean like playing the character or as you Scott Cohen, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.360 do you think it's inappropriate? I am not you. I 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.040 absolutely do not think it's inappropriate. I think you know, 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:04.560 if you fall in love with somebody, you fall in 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.360 love with somebody, doesn't matter kind of what the situation is. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.560 I mean, you know, there there are things that you 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.079 have to kind of negotiate. You know, you can't obviously 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.720 you know you can't play favorites and um, you know 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.920 you you you you can't say you can't exploit the 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:23.359 relationship with the student, you know, for the mother that's problematic, 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.400 which you know I think they um that that didn't happen, 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.880 um specifically, but there was kind of you know, there 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.080 was a little bit of dealing with Rory in a 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.079 way to get to laure Ali, that kind of thing, 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.480 which I thought, you know, that could be a problem. Um, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.120 but you never saw it in relationship to other students. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.000 But in reality that's that those are problems. But I 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.480 don't think it's it's a it's an issue to date 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.840 the mother of a student. I think, um, I mean 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.840 interestingly enough, I think what happens in you know, as 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.919 a teacher especially, I think that that you're if you're 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.520 a good teacher, you spend more time with a parent 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.519 maybe like you know, then you might you're in a 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.919 bar somewhere or something. I mean, and you get so 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.320 intimate with people. It's like doing a movie you get 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.760 so into or TV show you get so intimate with people. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.360 You know, those are the people that you meet, you 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.280 know what I mean. So it's uh so I think 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:19.359 it's kind of maybe a natural, um growth out of 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.880 out out of being a teacher. I mean, I get 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:30.120 it disagreeably. I could change my mind. I could change 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:34.520 what I say. You know, I put myself in Rory's 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.640 shoes as a sixteen year old, and you know, my 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.880 math teacher calls and I'm falling a little bit behind, 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.360 and he calls my mom and he or no, he 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:49.520 calls me and he you know, we're talking and he said, listen, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.200 you know you're outburst in class, not appropriate, but we 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.960 can catch you up. And I know you're late, you 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.120 missed the test. Blah blah blah, right, because that's what 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.600 happened in the show. Uh. And then he said, and Scott, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.119 would you mind putting your mother on the phone? Right? 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.160 And I said, oh boy, I'm in real trouble now. 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:07.960 So I, you know, I run upstairs and I get 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:12.160 on the other phone and I listen in and he says, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:18.719 you know, I I what is the word? Is this 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.800 what actually happens in the show? Now? You left a 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.240 message you left I totally forget. You left a voicemail 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:31.280 on on Laurelized home answering machine that said, you know, 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.400 because Laurie missed, Rory missed the test, she wasn't allowed 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.440 to take the test. She flipped out in class, she 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:42.159 got in Eliza's face, she got in Chad Michael Murray's face. Um, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.560 and you asked her to leave go to library. Wait, 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.760 you missed the test, You cannot take the test. You 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.520 were late. We don't care about the excuse. Yes, And 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:54.800 then um, and then there was that big scene and 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.360 the Headmaster Charleston's office where Lauren comes in and just 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.799 you know, just tears him a new one and refers 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.760 to him as l Duce and they and he's cool 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.919 as a cucumber and just says, listen, the rules are 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.520 the rules. Maybe she shouldn't be here, she doesn't have 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.120 to be here, she doesn't have to go to Harvard, 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.240 so on and so forth, but the rules are the rules, 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.440 and she could she So he he bent a little 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.160 bit and told you that she can take the test 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.680 or she can do some extra credit work. And that 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.640 was the message you were leaving for her. You can 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.280 take some extra credit. And you were you said, this 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.920 message is Ferrory. And I talked with the dean and 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.120 he the headmaster, and he said, you can take some 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.560 exstra credit and get caught up, and we're going to 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.600 get you in a place where you should be. Anyway, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.200 and by the way, if your mother is listening, Laurela, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:54.680 I really enjoyed. Okay, well, I define thought listen. I 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:59.360 just thought, wow, wow, okay, so so so let me 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:05.840 rephrase is what I just said. The question you caught me. 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.520 So the question was whether I think Scott Colin thinks 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.720 it's a problem. But obviously Max mcdina was a little 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.440 kind of you know, he exploited the phone call a 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:21.080 little bit um, but he didn't innocently. You know, that 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.880 was Max mcdeina's way, you know, if it was it 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.560 was convenient to talk to Laurela, if he had if 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.839 he was leaving a message for Rory, but he's busy, 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:36.440 he didn't have time to leave. He didn't. Yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.040 I don't think it's a problem though, I mean, I 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.080 that's the drama of the show, really, I mean, for 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.000 Max mcdina at least, I think that's part of the 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.640 drama which leave which somehow, I mean, I think that 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:52.120 does play a part in what Laurelized decision in the 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.640 end becomes it you know, this whole kind of like 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.479 uh confluence of relationships. I mean, I don't know what 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.240 was in any or in his mind, but you know 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:06.200 that that there was, that there was those issues were 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.000 prevalent for for Laura la that you know might have 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.640 led to you know, not being sure about what you 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.640 know to be with Max or not, So that maybe 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.280 that was really part of the whole thing why she 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.240 left Hartford. She couldn't get away with that stuff. At 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.280 the country club, right right, come to a small town 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.800 and just sort of exactly corrupt that place. There you 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:29.120 go with all her glory and yeah, sparkling personality. Sure, 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:34.080 poor innocent Maxi Medina. So so you're a victim. Okay, exactly, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.720 that's the way I see Scott. What Scott, Scott, what's 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.640 with the touching? The world? So there was a lot 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:48.400 of touching. What what this is twenty years ago? Man? 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.800 Every time? For me, it's been forever. I never saw it. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:58.080 It even wasn't even aware. But you you, my friend, 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.040 you know, we got to talk about the touching because 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.560 the touching, I mean you were like you were rubbing 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:09.320 her elbow with your thumb. This is this is with 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:13.560 Lorela Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, you know this is this 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.400 Max Medina's charmed I mean you know he was in 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.800 love with Laura Lae. He was, you know, any any 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.120 way he can get close to her, he would get 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.120 close to her. Man, Boy, did you ever I mean 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:30.440 talk about a full court press? Nice, you were going in, 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:37.160 you were going to the hoop? Oh god, um, yeah. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.240 I don't think you'd be allowed to do that these days. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.480 I mean I think you would. You would need permission 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.839 to you know, to kind of create that. But I 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.200 think that, I mean, I do think that that. I 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.800 don't think it was manipulation. I think that it was 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:56.360 you know, um, you know Max's honest feelings about Laura 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.920 La and you know he really fell deeply in love 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.840 with her and just really wanted to be close with 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.679 her in any way that again, and if she accepted it, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.640 then you know, um, it was all good. It was 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.520 not you know, it was not an issue. So she 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:15.480 defended very well. I mean she she denied you denied, 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.240 you denied you. This is not a good idea, my daughters. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:22.360 You know, she she you know, she she walked the 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.199 high road, if you will. But man, you just the 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:29.680 rubbing some on. You just kept you, just kept kept 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:35.920 said there was there is no high roads. Am I 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:43.840 talking about high road? No? I guess you know. I 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.120 to me, it was all just about his you know, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:51.800 his his his desire and his his um his lust 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.360 for her and which he felt was real. It was 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.560 real for him. It was totally real for him. I mean, 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.120 I guess it was real for her too on So 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.480 it wasn't you know, until she felt like it wasn't. 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.520 I don't even remember if there was a reason, was 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.800 there a reason that that she left her, or you're 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.000 not even up, You're not there yet. No, I don't know. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:16.840 I don't know. We're dealing with right next. I haven't 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.840 moved past the touching. It's driving me crazy, keeping me 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.600 up at night. That was in the in the in 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.760 the in the diner scene, and you're in your dinner, 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.480 in your dinner. No, No, it wasn't in my diner. No. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.320 I met her in Hartford. She was taking in some 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.960 classes at the local college there, and she said, maybe 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:43.000 we can meet for some place whatever was and you 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.679 you were rubbing her arm, and she didn't look at 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.160 you when you started doing it, or looked down. She 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.680 just sort of looked out. And I could tell she 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.960 was shocked by it, and that not a lot of 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:00.600 men had been touching her in that way. And I 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.079 got the feeling she kind of liked it. And then 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.640 you did it again after you were telling the story 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.160 of your uncle. You would you would have gotten to 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.360 her much sooner in the show. If you had done 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.839 the same thing as me, the show would have been cut. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.080 It would have been a three year, three year show. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.559 That's why I'm so worked up about it because why 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.560 didn't I do that? It just took you a long time, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.720 and it was and it was more appropriate too, because 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.880 it was like, I'm not I'm not well, I was 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.080 Rory's father's figure. But I can rub a little bit? 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.400 Why can't I rub? Everyone could rub? I see you 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.160 See that's why, that's what makes you, Scott Cohen, because 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.160 you made those choices as the character, and you want 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.480 her heart. And the second time you rubbed her, she 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:45.000 looked down at your thumb and then she smiled. She 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.720 liked it. She liked you, so I got her my 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.600 favorite scene. But are you are you? Are you up 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.520 to the where we where we talk at the door 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:59.720 where me guess we're a Cinnamon's wake, where you the 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.960 died Babbett's cat died and you come for the date 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.640 and she's not there, and then she sees you and 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.120 comes home and says, sorry, we gotta read, we gotta 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:11.760 we gotta reschedule, and you and then you, the master 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.920 of your craft, say maybe you know, maybe we shouldn't 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.599 do this. I really like you, Laura Ala, but I 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.200 don't want to waste your time. And it's kind of 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:20.840 a thing. And then you sort of walk off and 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.760 she's like no, no, no no no no no no, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.880 we can do it again. And you said, and you 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.560 make the decision of like, well, okay, we can we 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.720 can try this again. Um but okay, so here's here's 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.839 the deal. So you made that choice as the actor 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:42.240 Scott to have Max rubbing. Where did that come from? 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.120 Did you talk about that with Lauren before or did 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.880 you just lay that on her? No? I mean, I 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:52.920 just I just did it. I mean I think that Lauren, um, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:58.920 who I experienced as a very accepting uh um actor 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.000 you know, I mean, you knew your lines when you 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.400 walked in, and uh didn't really um waste a lot 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.120 of time. She was you know, she allowed you to 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.640 just be who you were. And and that's you know 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.920 that I didn't. I don't. I don't think. Um. I 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:20.520 think maybe if we kissed, I think there was maybe 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.920 a conversation, um, but you know, not too much and 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.920 uh and I think we were in bed ones that 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.400 might have been a conversation. But this, no, this was 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.840 just uming effect. I've never I've never been asked this 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.760 question before. This is I'm I'm a bit stumped. I 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.680 think it's just you know it is for me. You know, 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:46.240 it's interesting because the whole, the whole show that started 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.400 for me. I don't know what your process was, but 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:53.480 like when I I was offered like three episodes, right 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.800 and um and at that time, now it's like, you know, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.120 I'm happy I got I would get that money. At 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.600 that time, it was like that's that sucks, um and 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.680 the UH. And I actually said no for a long time, 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.120 like I didn't want to do it. I was like, 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.720 I don't really want to do this. And and then 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:21.000 I saw Lauren at a at some kind of like 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.240 publicity thing for this thing that I did, and and 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:28.320 she was just so fantastic and fun and um, and 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:29.920 I was like, you know what, I think this could 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.960 be really fun to do and um. And so so 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.840 I took it and there was there was such like 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:40.160 an um, a welcoming kind of sensibility from any and 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:44.400 Lauren when I got on set that uh it allowed 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.120 me just to really be free and not not feel 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.920 kind of burdened by any kind of what I'm supposed 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.880 to do or um. And so I just felt free. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.320 And I have to say, I mean, I don't I 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.680 don't think I feel that way. You know, I'm not. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.120 It's it's um not something that uh not that that 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.080 particular thing, but you know, feeling that kind of freedom 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.120 on a set doesn't come, you know, every day. So 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.400 you know, that's one of the reasons I remember it 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:16.000 as such a lovely experience. And besides the the fandom 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.080 of it all and being recognized for it like just 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.080 you know, and twenty this is what it's a you know, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:27.680 twenty years later, one years it's crazy, man. It's like, um, anyway, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:28.960 do you want me to read you I'm gonna read 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.160 you the voicemail. I'm gonna take you back. Here we go. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.040 This is the voicemail you left in episode for the 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:40.280 Deer Hunters on on Laurel ez loreal Ize uh answering, Hi, 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.440 this is a message for Rory. It's Max Medina calling. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.920 I just wanted to say that I talked to Headmaster 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.320 Charleston or Ill do Cha as he is more affectionately 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.760 known at the Gilmore Household, and he's agreed to let 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.120 you do some extra credit work to make up for 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:59.200 the miss test today. Uh. Now, I'm not sure what 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.680 extra credit work uh it is going to be, but 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:08.200 it probably will be time consuming and extremely painful. Uh, 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:13.080 it will, however, such a satist, it's it's just unbelievable. Um. 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.600 It will, however, get you back to where I think 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.480 you rightfully belong. Rory, don't lose heart. Make this work. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.240 And if your mother is listening, Laurel, I it was 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:28.280 a pleasure encountering you. Hope it happens again. Anyways, see 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.680 you in class by. You know, I think that I 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.240 think that that's brilliant writing. So so what what to 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:42.720 me that's really about? Um? Uh, Max is is Max 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:48.720 knows laurelized like he got a glimpse of of who 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.880 she was and one that she probably would be on 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.120 the phone right listening and on this, you know, and 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:59.160 to um or listening to the to the to the 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:05.160 recording UM and that and that he knew that, um, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.240 that the fun of meeting her was going like it 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.119 was going to go someplace. And so so to me, 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.040 that's actually really innocent kind of you know, I mean, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.520 for lack of a better word, charming kind of conversation. 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:21.320 But it's mainly focused on on Rory. I also think 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.520 that Max Medina would have been and I actually don't know. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.280 Maybe this did happen, but I think he would have 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:32.439 been quick to quit that job if Rory needed, If 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.480 Rory needed him to be separate from from their life, 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:37.720 I think that he would have been. He would have 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.000 found someplace else to go. I think Laurelae was much 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:45.320 more important than his work. Extremely honorable statement. Boy does that? Wow? 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.840 Okay that that almost stops the train dead in its tracks. Wow, 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:55.240 you're good. You're good, Scott Cohen, You're good, because I'll 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.480 tell you because man, that one move. And even back 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.040 that I'm not just saying because if today how things are, 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.639 but even back then, I mean, did you ever consider 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.560 when reading it and rehearsing it and doing it that, 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:16.240 my god, I am placing Chiltern and in legal hot water. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.920 I am placing Rory in a very precarious position with 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:27.880 her classmates who are already showing aggression towards her, um, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.000 you know, as the new kid, as you know, somebody 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:35.800 who's attractive and super intelligent. And I mean you notice that. Yeah, 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:37.720 I mean I think I think that. I think that 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:41.640 Max Medina, you know, if there's a if there's a 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:46.360 flaw to his character, it was that laurel I really was. 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.600 She took precedence so so it wasn't it wasn't. Um. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.520 I don't think he did think about those things. I 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.400 think that he probably, I mean, I think he did 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.320 think about them slightly, like don't you like, don't go 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.800 this far, to go this far? But UM, I don't 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.520 think it was at the forefront of his mind. I 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:04.960 think at the forefront of his mind was that he 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.720 met this woman that he was really falling in love 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.960 with and and and just that um and wanted to 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.760 be with her. You know. I I think the reason 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.560 I'm having such a visceral, visceral reaction to all this 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.960 is because I've never seen it before. And I never 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:29.000 realized that Amy through so many, um serious contenders into 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.520 the ring with her, and that she was deeply considering 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.000 and you know, just from what I've been hearing about 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:41.199 the the lifeline of your relationship on the show with 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:47.280 her is that it was very serious and um, you know, 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:51.080 I just never realized that it was so real, and 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.879 it was so real for her and for her character, 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.800 and that you guys, you know, were just about together. 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:02.000 I mean, you were it was happening. Um. And I 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.560 remember reading all the scripts and I knew it, uh, 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.959 but seeing it is a different experience. It's a very 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.040 powerful experience for me because if you know, all these 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.800 feelings are coming up, all these sort of uh, you know, 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.160 I was getting a little j But do you feel 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.960 I'm just curious, do you feel like that in the 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:23.640 at the end of like you end up with her 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.199 in the end? Right? Yeah? So do you do you 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:30.360 feel like that you're you're as as Luke, that your 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.160 your worthiness of Luke, that it went through this kind 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.960 of uh, you know, this crucible of of of other men, 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.480 and you know that you ended up you know that 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:43.520 you were successful in the end. I mean, you know, 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.760 you're probably That's a really good question. And nobody's ever 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.560 asked me that question before. Not that this is about me, 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.000 it's about you, But you asked me the question. So 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.640 I'm gonna I'm gonna consider it. Um. Yeah, maybe maybe 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:02.160 there was something in him that she was too classy, 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:07.120 to educated, too too smart for him, too on top 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.240 of everything that he would never have a chance. He's 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:13.639 just a small town guy and he doesn't have big aspirations, 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:17.640 you know, he's not. Yeah, I think there was some insecurity, there, 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:22.040 some deep insecurity that he couldn't handle or or make happy, 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:26.080 a woman who was so obviously spectacular. It was she 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:29.360 was just a bright light in that town. Not not 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:31.879 that you know that there weren't other bright lights in 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.680 that town, but she was like really like you put 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:39.120 her anywhere, and it's like, wow, um, that's so interesting. 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:40.880 You know, it's like it's really a credit. I mean, 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.720 I'm I'm I'm not really sure, but I'm pretty sure. Like, 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.679 uh that Amy left after six seasons or something that right, 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:53.240 like the last season, but I mean, I would imagine 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.640 you know that the development of character over seven years 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.560 of the entire time, it's such it's such a credit 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.800 to that Amy and Dan to kind of reach a 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.479 point of you know that there was great humility in 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.560 the idea of small town love, that there was this 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.439 really um I mean, and you see that throughout the 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.560 entire show, like small town really created you know, such 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.280 camaraderie and community and all this kind of stuff. But 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.679 you know that that small town love wins in the 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.080 end because it really is an emblem of what real 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:26.679 love can and should be. It's not something you know, 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:30.960 you don't need to be um. You know it everything 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.320 kind of falls to the wayside, whether it's being you know, 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:37.119 fancy and elegant and intellectual or you know, what really 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.879 matters is that you have feelings for somebody and that 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.520 that's that's that's sharing. That's sharing is uh is of 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:45.639 the utmost importance, which is I mean, it's pretty interesting 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.720 that Amy and Dan. I mean, there's you know, they're 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.919 they're they're so good at it, and I think I 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:54.000 think you know now that I think about another element 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:59.960 is uh, he probably was protect Luke was probably protecting 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:05.159 himself against any potential breakup. And he you know, I 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.200 don't know if you've ever been a situation when you're younger, 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:09.480 I've I've been a couple of those where it's like, 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.479 I don't know if I can handle losing her, So 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.760 I don't really want to be terribly aggressive. I don't 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.600 feel like I deserve her anyway. And she's gonna dump me, 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.399 she's gonna find me out, and then I'll be just 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.399 a wreck, you know. So there's that so interesting perspective, 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:33.960 very interesting, very interesting. Um. But the touching, God, the touching. 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.560 I watched it over and over again. I was uploaded 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:42.320 at night. I wonder there must be a gift out 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:47.080 there about touching. I'm sure I was learning I was, 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:49.600 and if not, I'm sure there will be. Now. I 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:51.320