1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: I am all in. Kiss you, I am all in 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay, hi everybody, 3 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. We are graced 4 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: with the presence of one of the you know, the 5 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: best actors working out there. He is extremely versatile actor. 6 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Scott Cohen played Max Medino and Gilmore Girls as you know. Um, listen, Pal, 7 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: you know I love you. Yeah, okay, but I am 8 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: not happy with Max Medina. It's the first time I'm 9 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: watching the show. I didn't look and I don't know 10 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: if it's me or if it's just Luke that's having 11 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: this reaction. But why do you think this is bothering 12 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: me so much? I mean, besides, I would say that 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: it's who I mean, you know, there was competition from 14 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: the very beginning. It was like, you know, they put 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: they they didn't they met us head to head before 16 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: everything kind of fell apart from Max and went the 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: way of Luke. I mean, it's it's to the point, 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: it got to the point where there is you know, 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: team Max team Luke. Like online, I mean, you always 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: win obviously, Um, but it's uh, it's it's intense. It's 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: like it's a it's a it's a big competition for 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: Laura for lauralized love. It is for lauralized attention. Okay, 23 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: so here's here's the big question. I mean, not as Max, 24 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: but as but as Scott. Did you ever think that 25 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: it was inappropriate to date to date uh a mom 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: of a student. No, I don't think so. Um you 27 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: mean like playing the character or as you Scott Cohen, 28 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: do you think it's inappropriate? I am not you. I 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: absolutely do not think it's inappropriate. I think you know, 30 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: if you fall in love with somebody, you fall in 31 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: love with somebody, doesn't matter kind of what the situation is. 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there there are things that you 33 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: have to kind of negotiate. You know, you can't obviously 34 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: you know you can't play favorites and um, you know 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: you you you you can't say you can't exploit the 36 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: relationship with the student, you know, for the mother that's problematic, 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: which you know I think they um that that didn't happen, 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: um specifically, but there was kind of you know, there 39 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: was a little bit of dealing with Rory in a 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: way to get to laure Ali, that kind of thing, 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: which I thought, you know, that could be a problem. Um, 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: but you never saw it in relationship to other students. 43 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: But in reality that's that those are problems. But I 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: don't think it's it's a it's an issue to date 45 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: the mother of a student. I think, um, I mean 46 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: interestingly enough, I think what happens in you know, as 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: a teacher especially, I think that that you're if you're 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: a good teacher, you spend more time with a parent 49 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: maybe like you know, then you might you're in a 50 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: bar somewhere or something. I mean, and you get so 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: intimate with people. It's like doing a movie you get 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: so into or TV show you get so intimate with people. 53 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: You know, those are the people that you meet, you 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's uh so I think 55 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: it's kind of maybe a natural, um growth out of 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: out out of being a teacher. I mean, I get 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: it disagreeably. I could change my mind. I could change 58 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: what I say. You know, I put myself in Rory's 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: shoes as a sixteen year old, and you know, my 60 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: math teacher calls and I'm falling a little bit behind, 61 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: and he calls my mom and he or no, he 62 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: calls me and he you know, we're talking and he said, listen, 63 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: you know you're outburst in class, not appropriate, but we 64 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: can catch you up. And I know you're late, you 65 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: missed the test. Blah blah blah, right, because that's what 66 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: happened in the show. Uh. And then he said, and Scott, 67 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: would you mind putting your mother on the phone? Right? 68 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: And I said, oh boy, I'm in real trouble now. 69 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: So I, you know, I run upstairs and I get 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: on the other phone and I listen in and he says, 71 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: you know, I I what is the word? Is this 72 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: what actually happens in the show? Now? You left a 73 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: message you left I totally forget. You left a voicemail 74 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: on on Laurelized home answering machine that said, you know, 75 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: because Laurie missed, Rory missed the test, she wasn't allowed 76 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: to take the test. She flipped out in class, she 77 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: got in Eliza's face, she got in Chad Michael Murray's face. Um, 78 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: and you asked her to leave go to library. Wait, 79 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: you missed the test, You cannot take the test. You 80 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: were late. We don't care about the excuse. Yes, And 81 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: then um, and then there was that big scene and 82 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: the Headmaster Charleston's office where Lauren comes in and just 83 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: you know, just tears him a new one and refers 84 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: to him as l Duce and they and he's cool 85 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: as a cucumber and just says, listen, the rules are 86 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: the rules. Maybe she shouldn't be here, she doesn't have 87 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: to be here, she doesn't have to go to Harvard, 88 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: so on and so forth, but the rules are the rules, 89 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: and she could she So he he bent a little 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: bit and told you that she can take the test 91 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: or she can do some extra credit work. And that 92 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: was the message you were leaving for her. You can 93 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: take some extra credit. And you were you said, this 94 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: message is Ferrory. And I talked with the dean and 95 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: he the headmaster, and he said, you can take some 96 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: exstra credit and get caught up, and we're going to 97 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: get you in a place where you should be. Anyway, 98 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: and by the way, if your mother is listening, Laurela, 99 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed. Okay, well, I define thought listen. I 100 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: just thought, wow, wow, okay, so so so let me 101 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: rephrase is what I just said. The question you caught me. 102 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: So the question was whether I think Scott Colin thinks 103 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: it's a problem. But obviously Max mcdina was a little 104 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: kind of you know, he exploited the phone call a 105 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: little bit um, but he didn't innocently. You know, that 106 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: was Max mcdeina's way, you know, if it was it 107 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: was convenient to talk to Laurela, if he had if 108 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: he was leaving a message for Rory, but he's busy, 109 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: he didn't have time to leave. He didn't. Yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 110 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a problem though, I mean, I 111 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: that's the drama of the show, really, I mean, for 112 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: Max mcdina at least, I think that's part of the 113 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: drama which leave which somehow, I mean, I think that 114 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: does play a part in what Laurelized decision in the 115 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: end becomes it you know, this whole kind of like 116 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: uh confluence of relationships. I mean, I don't know what 117 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: was in any or in his mind, but you know 118 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: that that there was, that there was those issues were 119 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: prevalent for for Laura la that you know might have 120 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: led to you know, not being sure about what you 121 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: know to be with Max or not, So that maybe 122 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: that was really part of the whole thing why she 123 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: left Hartford. She couldn't get away with that stuff. At 124 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: the country club, right right, come to a small town 125 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: and just sort of exactly corrupt that place. There you 126 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: go with all her glory and yeah, sparkling personality. Sure, 127 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: poor innocent Maxi Medina. So so you're a victim. Okay, exactly, 128 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: that's the way I see Scott. What Scott, Scott, what's 129 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: with the touching? The world? So there was a lot 130 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: of touching. What what this is twenty years ago? Man? 131 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: Every time? For me, it's been forever. I never saw it. 132 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: It even wasn't even aware. But you you, my friend, 133 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, we got to talk about the touching because 134 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: the touching, I mean you were like you were rubbing 135 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: her elbow with your thumb. This is this is with 136 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: Lorela Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, you know this is this 137 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: Max Medina's charmed I mean you know he was in 138 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: love with Laura Lae. He was, you know, any any 139 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: way he can get close to her, he would get 140 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: close to her. Man, Boy, did you ever I mean 141 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: talk about a full court press? Nice, you were going in, 142 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: you were going to the hoop? Oh god, um, yeah. 143 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you'd be allowed to do that these days. 144 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean I think you would. You would need permission 145 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: to you know, to kind of create that. But I 146 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: think that, I mean, I do think that that. I 147 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: don't think it was manipulation. I think that it was 148 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, um, you know Max's honest feelings about Laura 149 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: La and you know he really fell deeply in love 150 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: with her and just really wanted to be close with 151 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: her in any way that again, and if she accepted it, 152 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: then you know, um, it was all good. It was 153 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: not you know, it was not an issue. So she 154 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: defended very well. I mean she she denied you denied, 155 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: you denied you. This is not a good idea, my daughters. 156 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, she she you know, she she walked the 157 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: high road, if you will. But man, you just the 158 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: rubbing some on. You just kept you, just kept kept 159 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: said there was there is no high roads. Am I 160 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: talking about high road? No? I guess you know. I 161 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: to me, it was all just about his you know, 162 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: his his his desire and his his um his lust 163 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: for her and which he felt was real. It was 164 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: real for him. It was totally real for him. I mean, 165 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: I guess it was real for her too on So 166 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, until she felt like it wasn't. 167 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't even remember if there was a reason, was 168 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: there a reason that that she left her, or you're 169 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: not even up, You're not there yet. No, I don't know. 170 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. We're dealing with right next. I haven't 171 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: moved past the touching. It's driving me crazy, keeping me 172 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: up at night. That was in the in the in 173 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: the in the diner scene, and you're in your dinner, 174 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: in your dinner. No, No, it wasn't in my diner. No. 175 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: I met her in Hartford. She was taking in some 176 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: classes at the local college there, and she said, maybe 177 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: we can meet for some place whatever was and you 178 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: you were rubbing her arm, and she didn't look at 179 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: you when you started doing it, or looked down. She 180 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: just sort of looked out. And I could tell she 181 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: was shocked by it, and that not a lot of 182 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: men had been touching her in that way. And I 183 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: got the feeling she kind of liked it. And then 184 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: you did it again after you were telling the story 185 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: of your uncle. You would you would have gotten to 186 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: her much sooner in the show. If you had done 187 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: the same thing as me, the show would have been cut. 188 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: It would have been a three year, three year show. 189 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: That's why I'm so worked up about it because why 190 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: didn't I do that? It just took you a long time, 191 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: and it was and it was more appropriate too, because 192 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: it was like, I'm not I'm not well, I was 193 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: Rory's father's figure. But I can rub a little bit? 194 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Why can't I rub? Everyone could rub? I see you 195 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: See that's why, that's what makes you, Scott Cohen, because 196 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: you made those choices as the character, and you want 197 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: her heart. And the second time you rubbed her, she 198 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: looked down at your thumb and then she smiled. She 199 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: liked it. She liked you, so I got her my 200 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: favorite scene. But are you are you? Are you up 201 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: to the where we where we talk at the door 202 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: where me guess we're a Cinnamon's wake, where you the 203 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: died Babbett's cat died and you come for the date 204 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: and she's not there, and then she sees you and 205 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: comes home and says, sorry, we gotta read, we gotta 206 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: we gotta reschedule, and you and then you, the master 207 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: of your craft, say maybe you know, maybe we shouldn't 208 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 1: do this. I really like you, Laura Ala, but I 209 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: don't want to waste your time. And it's kind of 210 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: a thing. And then you sort of walk off and 211 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: she's like no, no, no no no no no no, 212 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: we can do it again. And you said, and you 213 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: make the decision of like, well, okay, we can we 214 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: can try this again. Um but okay, so here's here's 215 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: the deal. So you made that choice as the actor 216 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Scott to have Max rubbing. Where did that come from? 217 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: Did you talk about that with Lauren before or did 218 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: you just lay that on her? No? I mean, I 219 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: just I just did it. I mean I think that Lauren, um, 220 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: who I experienced as a very accepting uh um actor 221 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you knew your lines when you 222 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: walked in, and uh didn't really um waste a lot 223 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: of time. She was you know, she allowed you to 224 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: just be who you were. And and that's you know 225 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: that I didn't. I don't. I don't think. Um. I 226 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: think maybe if we kissed, I think there was maybe 227 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: a conversation, um, but you know, not too much and 228 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: uh and I think we were in bed ones that 229 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: might have been a conversation. But this, no, this was 230 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: just uming effect. I've never I've never been asked this 231 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: question before. This is I'm I'm a bit stumped. I 232 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: think it's just you know it is for me. You know, 233 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: it's interesting because the whole, the whole show that started 234 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: for me. I don't know what your process was, but 235 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: like when I I was offered like three episodes, right 236 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: and um and at that time, now it's like, you know, 237 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm happy I got I would get that money. At 238 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: that time, it was like that's that sucks, um and 239 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: the UH. And I actually said no for a long time, 240 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: like I didn't want to do it. I was like, 241 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't really want to do this. And and then 242 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: I saw Lauren at a at some kind of like 243 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: publicity thing for this thing that I did, and and 244 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: she was just so fantastic and fun and um, and 245 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I think this could 246 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: be really fun to do and um. And so so 247 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: I took it and there was there was such like 248 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: an um, a welcoming kind of sensibility from any and 249 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: Lauren when I got on set that uh it allowed 250 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: me just to really be free and not not feel 251 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: kind of burdened by any kind of what I'm supposed 252 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: to do or um. And so I just felt free. 253 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: And I have to say, I mean, I don't I 254 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: don't think I feel that way. You know, I'm not. 255 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: It's it's um not something that uh not that that 256 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: particular thing, but you know, feeling that kind of freedom 257 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: on a set doesn't come, you know, every day. So 258 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's one of the reasons I remember it 259 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: as such a lovely experience. And besides the the fandom 260 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: of it all and being recognized for it like just 261 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, and twenty this is what it's a you know, 262 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: twenty years later, one years it's crazy, man. It's like, um, anyway, 263 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: do you want me to read you I'm gonna read 264 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: you the voicemail. I'm gonna take you back. Here we go. 265 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: This is the voicemail you left in episode for the 266 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: Deer Hunters on on Laurel ez loreal Ize uh answering, Hi, 267 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: this is a message for Rory. It's Max Medina calling. 268 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that I talked to Headmaster 269 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Charleston or Ill do Cha as he is more affectionately 270 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: known at the Gilmore Household, and he's agreed to let 271 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: you do some extra credit work to make up for 272 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: the miss test today. Uh. Now, I'm not sure what 273 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: extra credit work uh it is going to be, but 274 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: it probably will be time consuming and extremely painful. Uh, 275 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: it will, however, such a satist, it's it's just unbelievable. Um. 276 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: It will, however, get you back to where I think 277 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: you rightfully belong. Rory, don't lose heart. Make this work. 278 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: And if your mother is listening, Laurel, I it was 279 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: a pleasure encountering you. Hope it happens again. Anyways, see 280 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: you in class by. You know, I think that I 281 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: think that that's brilliant writing. So so what what to 282 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: me that's really about? Um? Uh, Max is is Max 283 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: knows laurelized like he got a glimpse of of who 284 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: she was and one that she probably would be on 285 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: the phone right listening and on this, you know, and 286 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: to um or listening to the to the to the 287 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: recording UM and that and that he knew that, um, 288 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: that the fun of meeting her was going like it 289 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: was going to go someplace. And so so to me, 290 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: that's actually really innocent kind of you know, I mean, 291 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, charming kind of conversation. 292 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: But it's mainly focused on on Rory. I also think 293 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: that Max Medina would have been and I actually don't know. 294 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: Maybe this did happen, but I think he would have 295 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: been quick to quit that job if Rory needed, If 296 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: Rory needed him to be separate from from their life, 297 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: I think that he would have been. He would have 298 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: found someplace else to go. I think Laurelae was much 299 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: more important than his work. Extremely honorable statement. Boy does that? Wow? 300 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: Okay that that almost stops the train dead in its tracks. Wow, 301 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: you're good. You're good, Scott Cohen, You're good, because I'll 302 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: tell you because man, that one move. And even back 303 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: that I'm not just saying because if today how things are, 304 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: but even back then, I mean, did you ever consider 305 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: when reading it and rehearsing it and doing it that, 306 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: my god, I am placing Chiltern and in legal hot water. 307 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: I am placing Rory in a very precarious position with 308 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: her classmates who are already showing aggression towards her, um, 309 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, as the new kid, as you know, somebody 310 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: who's attractive and super intelligent. And I mean you notice that. Yeah, 311 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think that. I think that 312 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: Max Medina, you know, if there's a if there's a 313 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: flaw to his character, it was that laurel I really was. 314 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: She took precedence so so it wasn't it wasn't. Um. 315 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he did think about those things. I 316 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: think that he probably, I mean, I think he did 317 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: think about them slightly, like don't you like, don't go 318 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: this far, to go this far? But UM, I don't 319 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: think it was at the forefront of his mind. I 320 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: think at the forefront of his mind was that he 321 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: met this woman that he was really falling in love 322 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: with and and and just that um and wanted to 323 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: be with her. You know. I I think the reason 324 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm having such a visceral, visceral reaction to all this 325 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: is because I've never seen it before. And I never 326 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: realized that Amy through so many, um serious contenders into 327 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: the ring with her, and that she was deeply considering 328 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: and you know, just from what I've been hearing about 329 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: the the lifeline of your relationship on the show with 330 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: her is that it was very serious and um, you know, 331 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I just never realized that it was so real, and 332 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: it was so real for her and for her character, 333 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: and that you guys, you know, were just about together. 334 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you were it was happening. Um. And I 335 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: remember reading all the scripts and I knew it, uh, 336 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: but seeing it is a different experience. It's a very 337 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: powerful experience for me because if you know, all these 338 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: feelings are coming up, all these sort of uh, you know, 339 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: I was getting a little j But do you feel 340 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, do you feel like that in the 341 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: at the end of like you end up with her 342 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: in the end? Right? Yeah? So do you do you 343 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: feel like that you're you're as as Luke, that your 344 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: your worthiness of Luke, that it went through this kind 345 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: of uh, you know, this crucible of of of other men, 346 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: and you know that you ended up you know that 347 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: you were successful in the end. I mean, you know, 348 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: you're probably That's a really good question. And nobody's ever 349 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: asked me that question before. Not that this is about me, 350 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: it's about you, But you asked me the question. So 351 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna consider it. Um. Yeah, maybe maybe 352 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: there was something in him that she was too classy, 353 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: to educated, too too smart for him, too on top 354 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: of everything that he would never have a chance. He's 355 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: just a small town guy and he doesn't have big aspirations, 356 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's not. Yeah, I think there was some insecurity, there, 357 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: some deep insecurity that he couldn't handle or or make happy, 358 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: a woman who was so obviously spectacular. It was she 359 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: was just a bright light in that town. Not not 360 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: that you know that there weren't other bright lights in 361 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: that town, but she was like really like you put 362 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: her anywhere, and it's like, wow, um, that's so interesting. 363 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's really a credit. I mean, 364 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm not really sure, but I'm pretty sure. Like, 365 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: uh that Amy left after six seasons or something that right, 366 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: like the last season, but I mean, I would imagine 367 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: you know that the development of character over seven years 368 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: of the entire time, it's such it's such a credit 369 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: to that Amy and Dan to kind of reach a 370 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: point of you know that there was great humility in 371 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: the idea of small town love, that there was this 372 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: really um I mean, and you see that throughout the 373 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: entire show, like small town really created you know, such 374 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: camaraderie and community and all this kind of stuff. But 375 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: you know that that small town love wins in the 376 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: end because it really is an emblem of what real 377 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: love can and should be. It's not something you know, 378 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: you don't need to be um. You know it everything 379 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: kind of falls to the wayside, whether it's being you know, 380 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: fancy and elegant and intellectual or you know, what really 381 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: matters is that you have feelings for somebody and that 382 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: that's that's that's sharing. That's sharing is uh is of 383 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: the utmost importance, which is I mean, it's pretty interesting 384 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: that Amy and Dan. I mean, there's you know, they're 385 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: they're they're so good at it, and I think I 386 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: think you know now that I think about another element 387 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: is uh, he probably was protect Luke was probably protecting 388 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: himself against any potential breakup. And he you know, I 389 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever been a situation when you're younger, 390 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: I've I've been a couple of those where it's like, 391 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can handle losing her, So 392 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't really want to be terribly aggressive. I don't 393 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: feel like I deserve her anyway. And she's gonna dump me, 394 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: she's gonna find me out, and then I'll be just 395 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: a wreck, you know. So there's that so interesting perspective, 396 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: very interesting, very interesting. Um. But the touching, God, the touching. 397 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: I watched it over and over again. I was uploaded 398 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: at night. I wonder there must be a gift out 399 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: there about touching. I'm sure I was learning I was, 400 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: and if not, I'm sure there will be. Now. I 401 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: tried it on my wife and she she hit my 402 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: hand away. She goes, what are you doing? I said, 403 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm Max Medini and you isn't it working? I'm Scott 404 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: coining you. Yeah, okay, So you weren't given any direction 405 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: or of course not to touch that, I think, yeah, 406 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: I mean I might, I might have been given. I 407 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: don't really remember a lot of direction ever. Um, but 408 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure Amy directed a lot. Not everybody directed, um. 409 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: I The only the only other person I really remember 410 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: directing is Michael Cattleman, unfortunately, UM, who I worked with 411 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: not too not too long ago. UM, who loved um. 412 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: But no, I don't think. I don't. I don't think 413 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: so well not to get to actory here. But the 414 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: reason I'm I'm focused in on the touching is it, 415 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: you know check Off Anton Chekhov talks a lot about 416 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: the psychology or mom, sorry, Michael check Off, the great teacher, 417 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: the cousin of the nephew of Anton uh talks a 418 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: lot about the psychological gesture and how you should trust it, 419 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: and that to me, that is the manifestation of the 420 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: psychological gesture. That is the perfect psychological gesture, which is 421 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: what makes you, Scott Cohen, which is why you get 422 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: the jobs, you know, with all of the big people 423 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: in the big movies. And because you're you trust that 424 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: you go with that. So maybe there's a little actor jealousy, like, 425 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: damn it, that guy is good, you know to do that, 426 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: because that's a detail. You know, that's one of those 427 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: details that riles people up. But it it enhances the scene, 428 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: and and and and it says so much without you know, 429 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: you having just say anything, and you just rubbing that outbow, 430 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: you're just rubbing well, Scott, I have to say, I 431 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: am so flattered that you say this, and I'm not 432 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: I'm really not joking, um because you know, you you 433 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: go through life, um never really knowing what your uniqueness 434 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: uh possibly is. I mean as actors, you know, we 435 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: really just go from from job to job, audition to audition, 436 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: and you know, you work hard, and most of the 437 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: time it's working by yourself because you know, you're either 438 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: you know, on tape or you're you know, even when 439 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: you're shooting a TV show or a movie. You rarely 440 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: get like like like uh Gilmore girls, you rarely get 441 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: that moment where you really understand how to you know 442 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: that you're you know, uh, interacting with somebody. Um. So uh, 443 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: I thank you for that because that really means a 444 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: lot that that someone else is seeing, um, something that's 445 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: kind of unique to me, and um that it just 446 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: means a lot. So thank you. You're welcome. I mean, 447 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: it's a it's it's a bold choice. It's something that 448 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: just happened in your research and in the scene with 449 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: with Lauren. And you know, a lot of actors wouldn't 450 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: have gone for it. They would have thought about out 451 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: it maybe, but they wouldn't have done it, or they 452 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: would have asked permission and then it would have become 453 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: sort of awkward and and not organic, you know what 454 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean. So it's I mean, you just did it. 455 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: It was just so so let me ask you this. Uh, 456 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: I'm only five episodes in. What should I prepare for her? 457 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: Am I gonna lose my I don't know, I don't know. 458 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: I actually I've only seen a couple of scenes from 459 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: all the episodes. I don't think I watched after I 460 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: was in it. Really, Um, you know, there there's there's 461 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: the big, big scene at the end um of his 462 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: you know where he asked her to marry her. UM, 463 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: and I think the show. The show is called A 464 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: Thousand Daisies or something like that. Um, and he buys 465 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: her all these daisies and she's like in this and 466 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: she I think, I think she accepts in it. And 467 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: then I don't even remember how how she how she 468 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: doesn't marry me, whether, I don't know if there was 469 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: a wedding. I don't think there was a wedding, and 470 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: she doesn't come. I forget exactly how that turned out. 471 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: And then I remember, yeah anyway, yeah, and then I 472 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: remember talking. I remember over the years, you know, over 473 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: those those few years, talking to Dan and Amy, you know, 474 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: they were going to bring me back, and then that 475 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: never happened. And then UM, yeah, M interesting. And you're 476 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: in New York right now, right upstate New York are 477 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: Oh and you've been there since uh the pandemic started 478 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: maybe or yeah, well yeah, I got actually just as 479 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: the pandemic was starting, I got rid of my apartment 480 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: in New York. UM, mainly because we were not spending 481 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: that much time there and then and we didn't want 482 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: to really pay for it anymore, so we um, so 483 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: we gave it up. But then and at the same 484 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: time the pandemic kid so it's like kind of normal, 485 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be there. Um And you know, now if 486 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: I worked there, it's it's a bit of an issue, 487 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: like I have to find a place to stay usually, 488 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: but it's um. But I'm up here in the country 489 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: and it's fantastic and I love it right right right. Uh, 490 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: there's a yeah, there's a lot to be said. I 491 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: I sold my house in l a too, and we 492 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: went out a little bit to the country. Well I 493 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't say country, but of California. Yeah, yeah, we didn't. 494 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: We didn't make it out of California, but we still may. 495 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Are you you're from back east, though, aren't you. Yeah, 496 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm from Philadelphia, was born in Philadelphia, grew up in 497 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: South Jersey. Yeah, and I spent you know, a lot 498 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: of my summers in New York City because my sister 499 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: was living with somebody there and married to somebody there, 500 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: so we would go up every summer. I'd go up 501 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: every summer in high school and just spend the summer 502 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: up there with her. Let's get back to this, uh, 503 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: this this role that you play that has has has 504 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: has had this sort of this nuclear bomb in my life. 505 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: So when you first got the script, did you have, um, 506 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: any kind of misgivings and you may have addressed us 507 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: already about a teacher dating a mom, did you have 508 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: any kind of thoughts you could put children in jeopardy? 509 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: Did you have any kind of thoughts about what this 510 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: could do to Rory, you know, because that's the thing 511 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: that I'm I'm responding to responding to. Yeah, unfortunately not. 512 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean when I got the script, all I really 513 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: saw was the romance. Hmm, That's that's what I really saw. 514 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I should have steen more of the 515 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: children thing that that would have been a little bit 516 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: more kind of But you know, there were never any 517 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: scenes between me and and the headmaster except in that 518 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: in the office, And I think if they were, if 519 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: they had written scenes for me to take me out 520 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: of the relationship and put me in the school more, 521 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, to you know, to deal with that like 522 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: a like a friend that you're talking to that's like, 523 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: don't do this, Um, then I think I would have 524 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: thought about a little bit more. But um, there was 525 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 1: nothing in the script that was that was telling me 526 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: to um, to do anything other than what the romance 527 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: was dictating. I love the fact that ultimately what we 528 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: discussed today was your love of her, and it was 529 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: a romantic ideal. It was the one. She was the one, 530 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: and you came on here, brave soul that you are, 531 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: and you know you truly were a rival. You were 532 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: a real rival. I mean, this was certain that was 533 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: that was never talked about. That was never talked about. 534 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't talked about like I was a rival or 535 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: that was never in any direction. It was never any 536 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: like the writer you know, Amy never uh, at least 537 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: with me. She might have talked about with the writers 538 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: like there might have been like this is the rivalry 539 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: where you set this up, but never as a direction 540 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: like this is a this is an issue. I mean 541 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: we did, are you did? Did we go head to head? Yet? 542 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: We know? But I now I that scene just popped 543 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: into my head where we're standing yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah, 544 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: but isn't that just one scene? I think we just 545 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: had that one scene? So yeah, So I mean that's 546 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: the only time we really you know, um, and I'm curious, 547 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if there was any kind of dialogue that 548 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: was about Luke, you know, uh, I don't think so, 549 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: but I don't remember anyway. That wasn't that what that 550 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: was set up by writing, not necessarily by you know, performance, 551 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: I think, which is better because because then I'm not 552 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about the competition. I'm thinking about just 553 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: Laura La. I'm just thinking about like that's the goal. 554 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: The goal is Laura La. But the competition plays out 555 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: in the writing of it, not not in the Uh. 556 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: You know, if you're constantly playing like the jealousy, then 557 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: you're not You're not really playing the romance, the romance, 558 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: which ends up being what people I think become attracted to. 559 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you because I think in the in 560 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: the Foyers, you know, I was playing fear and insecurity 561 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: and really being threatened. I mean I really sensed that 562 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: this was gonna go bad for me and then I 563 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: was gonna lose her. So I do. I do remember that. 564 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: But of course you cover and you try to be 565 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: the tough guy, and she's mine and this is what 566 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 1: I do for her. And I mean it was it 567 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: was it was schoolyard childish stuff, but it's it's there. 568 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: We are, Um, yeah, there are exactly. I want to 569 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: do a little thing called rapid fire. You ready for this? Alright? 570 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: Alright here we got I know. How do you take 571 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: your coffee with cream? Can you smell snow? Yeah? Are 572 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: your team Logan? Just yeah? Sure? Because you from the Northeast, 573 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: I can smell, so you can smell snow man on 574 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: the ground, you know, peeing the snow, you smell being 575 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: the snow. There you are you Team Logan, Team Jess 576 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: or Team Dean. You don't give for corpt I don't 577 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: even I'm not even Logan. I'm not sure who Logan is. 578 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: Jess I think was Jess? Was was his Milo? Right? Yeah? Uh, 579 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: I have to say Team Dean. Okay, why because I 580 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: really got along with We were early on when he 581 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 1: that was like his first thing, right, that's j Jess 582 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: Jared Petti, like he's eighteen years old. Yeah, yeah, I 583 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: mean it was a lot of fun talking to him, 584 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: but you know, and it was you know, he was 585 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: just starting and we we formed a little bond for 586 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: a little bit, and then um he becaun you know, 587 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: he went on to both of them, you know, superstar. 588 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: He was a sweet kid. He was a very sweet kid. 589 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: Who's the daddy? Um, you're asking me questions? I don't 590 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: even know what they're actually referenced. Daddy. Yeah, I don't know. 591 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, not really. I gotta, you know, I 592 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: gotta ask the question. Yeah, I want to hear Melissa McCarthy, 593 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: which she's on what's your best memory of Gilmore Girls? 594 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: My best memory of Gilmore Girls has nothing to do 595 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: with the show. Um. It has to do with um 596 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: uh shooting on nine eleven and how they uh now 597 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: I've actually Pamela um the line producer. I forget her 598 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: last name, now, um she uh you nine eleven happened. 599 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: I was in l a shooting and my family, my 600 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: wife and my kids were in New York and we 601 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: lived in Soho at the time, which was very close. 602 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: And he had gone to school that day and I 603 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: saw the you know, the towers falling on the news 604 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: and went to set, went to went to the studio 605 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: that morning, right that I was working that day. Um, 606 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: everything shut down, obviously, but um, they got me on. 607 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: They put me in a room. They were so concerned 608 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: with me getting in touch with my family, and they 609 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 1: put me in a room for twelve hours. They patched 610 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: me through all these ways of trying to get to 611 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: my my wife's cell phone and you know, just uh yeah, 612 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: it was it was like totally being taken care of 613 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: in a time when you feel like just you're you're 614 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: just you know, you're the ground under your feet is 615 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: just kind of taken. And did you did how long 616 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: did it take you to get in touch with your wife? 617 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: Twelve hours? Yeah, and yeah, and it was like and yeah, 618 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: it was just it was just incredible and I'll never 619 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: forget it. And it was I just felt like it 620 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: was so it was just so unbelievable. They just you know, 621 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: and had nothing to do with the show. But then 622 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: I think the next day we shot, or two days 623 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: later we shot. I remember shooting a scene with Lauren 624 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: in a car. Maybe it was like a driving scene 625 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: or something like that, and I it was just crazy. 626 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're like, you're not really like I was 627 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: kind of laughing the whole time and not really like 628 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. And that was the other thing. They 629 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: got me out as quickly as possible. They like got 630 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: me out on the first flight. That that when when 631 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 1: when flights started going back, and I remember, I uh, 632 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: not in live was on a Tuesday, and they flew 633 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: me on a Saturday morning. It was like the first 634 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: one of the first flights that got went out of 635 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: l A. So it was what a what a terrible experience? 636 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: Good god, twelve hours of agony? Wow. Yeah, But that 637 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: that's my that's my best memory because and other than that, 638 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: uh my, my, my best memories are just the whole 639 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: thing with Lauren and just having such a good time, um, 640 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: and with Amy and Dan uh and never just never 641 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: feeling threatened that the way I was doing things was 642 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: was questioned. It was just always, you know, it was 643 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: always good. And I don't really remember, maybe because I 644 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: I was so you know, busy at the time. Um, 645 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't ever remember feeling like, uh, you know, like 646 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: I needed, you know, to know if he's coming back 647 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: or you know, what's happening to Max. You know, it's 648 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: just what it was, what it was, I think. Yeah, 649 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean that that's basically it the show that you're 650 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: binge watching right now. I just finished The Kaminsky Method. Okay, 651 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: cast member you texted most recently on The gumber Girls. 652 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm in touch with Amy and Dana a lot. Okay, 653 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: So have you done an episode of mazel I? I 654 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: was on this this season, right, Okay? Cool? So okay, 655 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: So here's a Lauren question. Okay, did you know that 656 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: the two of you had a great see partner in 657 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,959 Speaker 1: each other? Because it was so what's the word ping 658 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: pongy quick back and forth. I mean, did you know 659 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: pretty quickly that you were in really good hands with Yes? Yes, 660 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: I knew Lauren before the show, right, Um, they we 661 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: were actually in I did three three episode arc on 662 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: Law and Order, like in nineteen six, and I played 663 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 1: a film director that that that murders his wife cuts 664 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: her up into little pieces. Um, and she was in 665 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: the same shown because he was. It was I touched her. 666 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: I touched her a lot before, so not going. I 667 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: tried to get close. She wouldn't let me. Um. And 668 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: she was on the show. I forget exactly why she 669 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: was on the show, but she was on the show. 670 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: And my agent was like, oh, you know would be great. 671 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: You guys should work together and uh, you know, be fun. 672 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: And then we met each other and you know, she 673 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: was great and um, and this came up and I 674 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: knew that she was just totally special and and um 675 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: and extremely talented. I don't think that I was anywhere 676 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: near I mean, I don't know if you had this experience, 677 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: but I wasn't anywhere near as being able to speak 678 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: as quickly as I. And that was actually I was 679 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: I was lucky that Amy. Uh. And maybe this was 680 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: because it was kind of um first Amy's you know 681 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: uh um. She wasn't like as intense about um dialogue early. 682 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but my take on how to 683 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 1: do that dialogue was not not like you know, like 684 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: like rapid fire. I needed to be able to I 685 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: needed to be able to have some kind of like 686 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, ground to it um. Whereas Lauren could memorize 687 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: these lines. I mean there's there was ninety pages per script. 688 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: You know, she memorizes monologues that, you know, like it 689 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: was unbelievable how you could kind of like lace stuff up. 690 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it was totally I felt like that, 691 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, it was a great scene partner, and she 692 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: really was. Again, she was very giving and very um 693 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: free about what I you know, if I wanted to 694 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: try something, she would go for it, and that you 695 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: know wouldn't be a problem. Um. And you know, she 696 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: wasn't judging or anything like that, which always makes it 697 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: easier because you know, you work with people that are 698 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: very judgmentally, You're like, oh my god, it's like I'm 699 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: completely stuck. It's gonna be a long day exactly exactly, 700 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: and so you know, so you have to like so. 701 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: So she was great. I mean she was, you know, 702 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: a true um champion of you know, of of doing work. 703 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: I never saw her complain about anything, you know that 704 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't part of, you know, if if that was happening, 705 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know about it. Um. She was always like 706 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: right on on on on her stuff, and and and 707 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: and and willing to uh to be a great scene partner. 708 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: And she was. She was really a good scene partner. 709 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: You know. One of the most impressive things I've ever 710 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 1: seen in my entire career was when uh we we 711 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean we were there at three am doing a 712 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: diner scene. It was just the two of us, since 713 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 1: she had this big entrance monologue coming into the diner 714 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: and huff and the whole thing, and I mean it 715 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: was like it was it was that much black ink. 716 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: It was like the whole page and she had just 717 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: spit it out fast. And not only did she have 718 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: to do that at three am after you know, a 719 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: monster day of twenty hours or something like that, of 720 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 1: working and uh, you know, ninety cups of coffee. We 721 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: we both had in us. Brian de Palma had been 722 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: there since the afternoon and he stayed. He stayed. He 723 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: was a fan of the show. His daughter loved the show. 724 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: And uh, Gallen heard the mother of the wife was there, 725 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: um as well. I think she was. But Brian de 726 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: Palmer was sitting right next to camera. Oh my god. Okay, 727 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: you know how we do our coverage for close up. Yeah, 728 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: he was like cameras the microphone. He was there, Brian 729 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 1: de Palmer and on her coverage, okay, on her coverage, 730 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: and she was flawless. She didn't she didn't flinch. I mean, 731 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: you talk about being under pressure with like a major 732 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: director staring you right in the face the entire monologue 733 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: and just she did it twice, nailed it. We moved on. Yeah, 734 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: she's so professional, so you know, and and yeah, really professional. 735 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: It was cool and I think that she, you know, 736 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: she must have felt. I mean, I I don't. I 737 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: don't really talk to Laren, but you know, she must 738 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: have felt, you know. And I mean it's interesting, like, 739 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, somebody that you know is so successful at 740 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: a show, on a show for so long. You know, 741 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: she really seemed to do with it really well I 742 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: mean from my perspective, and not ever make it like 743 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: she's a star or you know, she was very humble 744 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: and you know, um, yeah, I mean I found it 745 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: incredible to you know, what I found incredible is if 746 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: I were in that position, and I were the lead 747 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: of the show and I was carrying a show like 748 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: that with so much dialogue and so many hours yet 749 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: you had to put in every day and I wasn't 750 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: getting and doing the level of work that she was 751 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: doing day after day, month after month, year after year, 752 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: season after season, and not really I mean getting recognized 753 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: or getting nominated at the rate which she deserved. Uh. 754 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: Kind of amazing that it went on for seven years, 755 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: because I mean we were obligated to six. We did 756 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: a seventh, um, but it's like how long can you go? 757 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: I mean, like what's the point after a while? I 758 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: mean not that you're doing it to be recognized, but 759 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it starts feeling you know, it 760 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: starts feeling bad, like come on, you know, maybe you know, 761 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: throw us a Golden Satellite Award or something. I mean, 762 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: I something, Um, but it was just odd and it 763 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 1: just sort of I don't know, there was this sort 764 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: of sour taste after a while on set, like we 765 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: can do, you know, what we consider to be very 766 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: high level work with very high level writing, and nobody 767 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: at these academies cares and it's not going to make 768 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: any difference. Not that you do it to win the 769 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: awards or get nominated, but you want to be invited 770 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: to the party a little bit, right, Yeah, you want 771 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 1: to be invited to the party totally. But you know what, 772 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: after so many years in this business, I do feel 773 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: like that, you know, because I too want to be 774 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, uh invited to the party. But I feel 775 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: like that there are you know, there are things that 776 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: happened that never get recogn eyes that never get you know, 777 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: to see the light of day in terms of you know, 778 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: people kind of giving it the credit it deserves. And unfortunately, 779 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: it's it's for a lot of actors and a lot 780 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: of shows, a lot of movies that that don't get 781 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 1: that because there are Darling's that you know, uh that 782 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: that get chosen, you know, and unfortunately, and I don't 783 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: need to like trash you know, any organization, but you know, 784 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: whether it's the Academy or whether it's the Emmys or 785 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,919 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, sa what we all know how 786 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: things get voted and you know it's, um, it's not 787 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: rocket science, it's you know, people, people choose. People don't 788 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: necessarily choose what's deserving one year. They choose, you know 789 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: what they know and it's not always you know the 790 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: case with one particular show, she she absolutely deserved an 791 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: enormous amount of tension for that, for that character, as 792 00:46:53,120 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: as as um as uh so many others know the girl, 793 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: the girl from Mrs maisil who, um, you know who's 794 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: getting an enormous amount of right right right right? So 795 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: which is a similar it's a similar character. Listen, buddy, Uh, 796 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: we know you gotta go. You're a busy guy. Thank 797 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 1: you for your time. This was amazing, It was great. 798 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: It was great spending time with you. And Uh, I 799 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna send you some coffee. I have my 800 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 1: own coffee company. Did you drink coffee? Do you really? 801 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: I do? Yeah? Uh send it to me definitely, all right, 802 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: they'll get yeah, yeah, they'll get your phone and all that. 803 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: But it was amazing talking to you. Thank you so 804 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: much for taking the time we'd love to have you back. 805 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: It's great sea and I'm so glad that you explained 806 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: to me that it was really just romance. It was 807 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: just romantic love and it took precedent over anything. And 808 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: how honorable of you to say, I'm going to step 809 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: away from Chilton too if it comes to that for 810 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: this woman that's the true rival on guard, my friend, 811 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: my guard. We will meet again anyway, Stay well, stay safe, 812 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 1: all the best, buddy, take care all right man. Thanks 813 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,919 Speaker 1: hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at 814 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 1: I Am all In podcast and Emailie at Gilmore at 815 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: I heart radio dot com. 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