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Speaker 1: well we got a little something different here for the

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Speaker 1: week after Thanksgiving. I've got five topics and I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna throw them at you guys, and you tell me

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Speaker 1: what you want to talk about. Okay, all right, get

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Speaker 1: your takes ready. We got Lane Kiffin, we have a

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Speaker 1: football recruit named Fat Rat from Tyler's hometown. We've got

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Speaker 1: the Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. We've got that tweet we talked

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Speaker 1: about in the group chat about Megan Clay. And we've

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Speaker 1: got Michael Irvin's quote last night on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about that, Michael.

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Speaker 1: Keep let me let me let me read the tweet

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Speaker 1: unless you have it up in front of you, which

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Speaker 1: I know you've read. Okay, Why did I volunteer to

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Speaker 1: read a Michael Irvin tweet? Okay, here we go. That

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Speaker 1: big hit you just saw in the game between the

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Speaker 1: New England at Patriots and the New York at Giants

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Speaker 1: are the kind of hits we had to take on

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Speaker 1: every damn play eight exclamation points, just trying to enlighten

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Speaker 1: the young at NFL fans who never saw passes caught

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Speaker 1: cou ghd where in all caps, great pain lived.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, bro, that shit is poetry. To me, I'll

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Speaker 2: say that in all seriousness we call passes where great

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Speaker 2: pain lived. That is poetry. That is like some Carl

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Speaker 2: Sandberg shit, bro, Like, like that's some shit that that

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Speaker 2: motherfucker Carl Sayerberg would have written in nineteen twenty five

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Speaker 2: about the industrialization of America where great pain lived. Bro,

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Speaker 2: that I legit listen, bro. Michael Irvin is legitimately like

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Speaker 2: one of the most intriguing for former athletes to me. Like,

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Speaker 2: like he went viral earlier when when some podcaster dude said,

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Speaker 2: Dion want to be down to today's NFL and that

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Speaker 2: motherfucker went on that rant. Did y'all see that ship? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And then he was like, I never caught a pass

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Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage never, you know, basically rooted

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Speaker 2: in the same shit that treat was where it was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was a different league back then. It

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Speaker 2: was way more physical and and and he juxtaposition that

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Speaker 2: where he was like I couldn't afraid to be afraid

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Speaker 2: of pain because I came from poverty and nothing hurt

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Speaker 2: more than that. And and and he had that great line,

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Speaker 2: you either run that slant or we run back to

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Speaker 2: the ghetto, like listen, bro like. And I feel like

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Speaker 2: so many people don't don't realize losing recipes. That's an

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Speaker 2: urban colloquialism he gave us that he put put that

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Speaker 2: into the zeitgeist. Like he's really really a super interesting dude.

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Speaker 2: And I love the way that he talks about football,

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Speaker 2: especially that when he is one of the you know,

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Speaker 2: I hate to be all extra about it, but a

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Speaker 2: gladiator of a bygone era where where you know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's just not the same physical sport that it once was.

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Speaker 2: So and I'm not someone who who thinks that football

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Speaker 2: needs to revert to that. I'm not that guy at all.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that he is so interesting, and

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Speaker 2: you know, like I said, because he's someone who who

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Speaker 2: comments on how this brutal gain was even more brutal

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Speaker 2: in his day, and how he excelled at it because

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Speaker 2: it was either that or be fucking poor.

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing that's special about him is

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Speaker 1: it's a really hard line to walk to talk about

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Speaker 1: how different the game used to be without sounding grumpy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he never does. It's always entertaining, and it's always

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Speaker 1: phrases like like you said, I mean, that's that's true,

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Speaker 1: legitimate pro stylist work where great pain lived, and but

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Speaker 1: he brings it. He brings that energy and a laughter

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Speaker 1: to it that I do think it's one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons that Charles Barkley has the position that he has

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Speaker 1: because he laughs at himself as well as the world,

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Speaker 1: and you feel like he's always telling you the truth.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's something very similar with Michael Irvin,

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Speaker 1: where that does an open book in interviews. I mean,

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Speaker 1: people ask him how much cocaine was in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: but he would tell them how much cocaine was in

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Speaker 1: the locker room, like you know, know, well, you know

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Speaker 1: it was a different time. It was like million dollars

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Speaker 1: of cocaine after one game. I mean.

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Speaker 3: And I think the honesty thing is like he will

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Speaker 3: choose to talk himself up or to talk Deone Sanders

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Speaker 3: up and say we would have that guy or I

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Speaker 3: would have survived in today's era. But it's not like

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Speaker 3: we were all tougher than you. We were all better

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Speaker 3: than you. You guys are now. We were all playing

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Speaker 3: a more challenging support Like that era was more physical,

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Speaker 3: that's true, And you guys are talented now, and there's

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Speaker 3: we can talk. He's being able, He's able to talk

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Speaker 3: about different eras and not put either one of them

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Speaker 3: down really just sort of compare the genuine differences between them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, It's like like that tweet is a perfect example.

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Speaker 2: Like he's never on that I can't watch today's game

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Speaker 2: is too soft. He's like that was the football we played,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like like that's always a reminder.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well so well said, all right,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Michael. Okay, so first round draft pick

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin tweet, What's what's the Ruth's Chris Story