Speaker 1: I'm close with Landy Wilson and I'm so I love
Speaker 1: watching her star rise and like he called me one
Speaker 1: night and it was her I was late at night
Speaker 1: and I was on the bus. He was on the bus,
Speaker 1: and she was like, She's like, hey, I just want
Speaker 1: to call you because my song went number one, my
Speaker 1: very first number one. And she was like, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to hear your voice because I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to somebody who knew exactly what that felt like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what does it feel like? That's so amazing?
Speaker 1: Well, it feels like it feels like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like relieving because you need it so bad, and then
Speaker 1: it feels like, oh shit, now here we.
Speaker 3: Go calm down with Erin and Carissa is a production
Speaker 3: of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: You Look Beautiful. I literally was making her. I was
Speaker 1: like going through all y'all past episodes. I'm like, how
Speaker 1: cute do I have to get.
Speaker 2: To You're lucky that we put on any makeup? Like,
Speaker 2: what's the level of pride here? No, or Brad, that's
Speaker 2: a question as well.
Speaker 3: You're fine, which is why her, Aaron and I have
Speaker 3: both talked to us about how we need a lift
Speaker 3: because we don't wear bras. Welcome everybody to the Calm
Speaker 3: Down Podcast, and with that we welcome in a woman
Speaker 3: that really needs no introduction, but a three time Grammy
Speaker 3: Award winner. You're the winningest artist in the Academy of
Speaker 3: Country Music Awards thirty not You've won thirty nine ACMs.
Speaker 2: That's insane.
Speaker 1: That's really when you say it like that, it sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: and it also makes me a little tired to think about.
Speaker 3: Well, you have endless energy and we are so glad
Speaker 3: that you're on this podcast. Aaron and I are big
Speaker 3: fans of yours. I know you hear that a lot,
Speaker 3: but you're also like the ultimate girls girl. I know
Speaker 3: that Aaron has gotten a chance to interview you before,
Speaker 3: but we're thrilled to have you.
Speaker 2: So thank you for coming on. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here today.
Speaker 3: I interviewed you way way, way way back in the day.
Speaker 3: I think it was in a restaurant and maybe it
Speaker 3: was Nashville, and it was for an award show, and
Speaker 3: I was so excited and nervous and all I wanted
Speaker 3: to do is drink with you. And I don't think
Speaker 3: that that's what we got to do. But one day.
Speaker 3: I know it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can hang low key next time. I would
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 3: Hey, since we're really gonna be great friends in the future.
Speaker 3: Chris and I manifest that all the time. Favorite drink
Speaker 3: of choice, Like, maybe at four thirty five o'clock before dinner,
Speaker 3: you're chilling on your porch, what's your favorite drink of choice?
Speaker 2: I usually like, if I'm out, I get a martini.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to go to all that effort mussel,
Speaker 1: so I'm just like tatoes and sparkling water and lte
Speaker 1: for the porch.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you guys are the same. Aaron does
Speaker 3: it with tequila. I don't have the that feels like
Speaker 3: I need more. And then I ended up drinking like
Speaker 3: things like Margarita's and have the worst hangover in the
Speaker 3: morning because it's so much sugar, Like I'm a twenty
Speaker 3: one year old that just started drinking. But anyways, mart
Speaker 3: you have so many things going on. So you're in
Speaker 3: the Northeast right now. You just mentioned you're up and
Speaker 3: so how often like between Austin between Nashville the Northeast,
Speaker 3: Like what do you call home?
Speaker 2: Like what's home? I mean, you have homes in all
Speaker 2: those places. But where do you spend the most time?
Speaker 2: That fools our home base.
Speaker 1: That's where, like I mean, I've had a place in Nationville,
Speaker 1: so it's like twenty.
Speaker 2: I mean I just said that.
Speaker 1: It's where I work a lot. It's where my all
Speaker 1: my friends, A lot of my friends are. You know
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends are our work friends. That's
Speaker 1: how this business works. Yeah, but I do have I
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time in Texas because my family's
Speaker 1: still there. My little brother went to ut and never
Speaker 1: came back to our little town in East Texas, so
Speaker 1: he lives in Austin, and my husband's in New Yorker,
Speaker 1: so I spent a lot of time up.
Speaker 2: Here as well.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, nice win for them over Michigan over
Speaker 3: the weekend. And I know you're a huge Chiefs fan,
Speaker 3: so you have to be very excited about the start
Speaker 3: for your guys' season with a win over Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I really am, and I am in my sports era finally,
Speaker 1: like I'm fully immersed. I'm like in it now and
Speaker 1: I'm learning a bunch. But I do love the Chiefs
Speaker 1: because I'm cheering for hometown boy. Homes is from like
Speaker 1: two towns over for mine in East Texas, Like, there's
Speaker 1: not that many of us that I get out, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, we did it.
Speaker 2: We're doing big things.
Speaker 3: That's a door because yeah, goey, no, I was gonna
Speaker 3: say Sports Era. I'm sure that's where you went. Is
Speaker 3: that because of Brendan? Like how did that start?
Speaker 2: How to? I mean Texas?
Speaker 3: You automatically think everybody that lives or is from Texas
Speaker 3: has the Cowboys, has whatever, just sort of like sports
Speaker 3: running through their blood.
Speaker 2: But you just started, huh.
Speaker 1: Well, I always have. I mean, it's obviously I have to.
Speaker 1: I have to root for the Cowboys. That's like you
Speaker 1: have to do that. But actually, I'm a huge fan
Speaker 1: of the cheerleaders to be honest, Like I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: all their all the Cowboys Cheerleaders.
Speaker 2: Shows and like totally and everything she's done.
Speaker 1: How hard they work, like that is their new series,
Speaker 1: Like I binged it so hard and I was like,
Speaker 1: what if y'all did a dance to one of my songs?
Speaker 2: That would be amazing.
Speaker 1: So I'm putting that out there because I just think
Speaker 1: they worked so hard and they're like the.
Speaker 2: Vibe of the team.
Speaker 3: To me, so oh my God, Well, Miranda, you this
Speaker 3: is a very serendipitu because you're talking to basically like
Speaker 3: miss Dallas Cowboys reporter, because she has all of their
Speaker 3: games with the A crew just came working off working
Speaker 3: the Cowboys Browns game.
Speaker 2: Aaron, you need to do this, You need to make
Speaker 2: this happen. Okay.
Speaker 3: So yesterday I was on the sidelines waiting for the
Speaker 3: players to come out, and Charlotte Jones was on the
Speaker 3: sidelines and we always see them, but I hadn't seen
Speaker 3: her since the show came out. So I ran over
Speaker 3: to her and I was like, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you're working on A season two, but I need you
Speaker 3: to get work, get it done, and get paid a
Speaker 3: lot of money, because this was one of the best
Speaker 3: things I've ever watched, binge the whole thing. Great news
Speaker 3: for you, Miranda. I know your people are probably very
Speaker 3: powerful better than me, but I'm in Dallas this coming weekend.
Speaker 3: I'll tell Charlotte I gotta make it happen, and I'll
Speaker 3: tell the coaches.
Speaker 1: I'll text Kelly, because Kelly's from lindew My hometown was
Speaker 1: just crazy, like a tiny, little e Texas town. So
Speaker 1: like we're gonna manifesting.
Speaker 2: That is so great. I love that, Aaron.
Speaker 3: We were on vacation in Tuloom together with a big
Speaker 3: group of people and one of the girls, Ashley, used
Speaker 3: to be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. So what Aaron doesn't
Speaker 3: brag about herself is that she was also a dancer Miranda,
Speaker 3: at the University of Florida. But so they busted out
Speaker 3: a routine, the whole Thunderstruck routine in the middle of
Speaker 3: like of the house that we were saying. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was pretty great. So have you tried to do
Speaker 3: the leg kick? I can never I was not an answer.
Speaker 1: I was a cheerleader to like my sophomore year and
Speaker 1: I wasn't good at at all. I just wore my
Speaker 1: hair really high on my head and a ponytail like
Speaker 1: back in the sponge roller days where you can make
Speaker 1: it really really curly, so it looks like I was
Speaker 1: jumping higher than I was.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yea, but yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: Actually Brendan loves football like he's he He used to
Speaker 1: play for the NYPD. He played for them for the
Speaker 1: whole time he was a cop, and he was actually
Speaker 1: playing flag football yesterday and then went and watched football
Speaker 1: all day.
Speaker 2: Yes that's our guy.
Speaker 1: It's a but yeah, and we are obviously Longhorns fans.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like immersing in it. I went to
Speaker 1: my first hockey game in Vegas here in my residence,
Speaker 1: see to the Golden Knights game, and it was like
Speaker 1: a Vegas shoe.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is cool.
Speaker 1: So so I'm definitely getting on the Predators train this year.
Speaker 1: So like I'm in, I'm getting all the jerseys. I'm
Speaker 1: doing the thing right now.
Speaker 3: Get a jersey for Steven stamcost. He's one of my
Speaker 3: favorite NHL players. You guys just signed him. He came
Speaker 3: from Tampa Bay. I hope he scores fifty goals this year.
Speaker 3: He's adorable, his wife's fantastic, their kids are great. Get
Speaker 3: a Steven stamp. I'll get you a Steven stampostka are you?
Speaker 3: Thank you? You mentioned Brendan before we jumped on the call.
Speaker 3: We were just chatting and then the zoom or whatever,
Speaker 3: and you were telling us how you met him, and
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear this whole story. We obviously
Speaker 3: like we love love and the serendipity of how you
Speaker 3: guys met, So tell everyone and us the details.
Speaker 2: Of it all.
Speaker 1: I was doing a song with the Pistolanis on GMA.
Speaker 1: What was it was called I got my name changed back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure did, and there I've been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We wrote a whole song because it's like a
Speaker 1: whole lot of work to do that. So after my
Speaker 1: first marriage, I went through like a whole thing to
Speaker 1: get my name changed back on my license and so
Speaker 1: we wrote a song about it, which is funny because
Speaker 1: it's a girl band, like we're like our bread and
Speaker 1: butter is like woman's scoring visa and so. And then
Speaker 1: Brendan was working at gm A as a cop and
Speaker 1: he kind of was part of his like morning rotation
Speaker 1: was to go by g m A and make sure
Speaker 1: everybody was good. And my bandmate Angelina was like, did
Speaker 1: you see that cop? And I was like, no, it's
Speaker 1: eight in the morning. I just want to see the
Speaker 1: back of my.
Speaker 2: Lads right now.
Speaker 1: We've been up for like four hours.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: So we we invited him to our show through my
Speaker 1: security guy and he came.
Speaker 2: We only gave him one ticket. We're like, yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We ended up hanging out after the show and just
Speaker 1: hit it like I'm from a family of first reponders.
Speaker 1: I have tons of cops environment in my family and
Speaker 1: his whole family or cops environment, and so it just
Speaker 1: like felt really natural, and you know it was like
Speaker 1: it was it was serendipitous.
Speaker 2: It really was.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of this like came out of
Speaker 1: nowhere love story. And we're almost six years in now
Speaker 1: so we're killing it.
Speaker 3: This is real life Whitney Houston, Kevin Costner Bodyguard.
Speaker 2: I mean it really is. Do you guys ever reenact
Speaker 2: the movie?
Speaker 3: I mean not the personal scenes, well you can tell us,
Speaker 3: but no, like, do you ever like make jokes that
Speaker 3: this is the Bodyguard?
Speaker 2: We have made those jokes.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I got the stuff that you want, the
Speaker 3: stuff that you need. Speaking of lyrics, I couldnt stop
Speaker 3: listening to damn It, Randy. I love the whole story
Speaker 3: about speaking of Brendan that he was the co Are
Speaker 3: we giving him co writing credit?
Speaker 1: He's got along co writer, like he's in it, love it.
Speaker 1: It's funny, like he's really proud of it. I mean
Speaker 1: I had him written a little bit during like COVID,
Speaker 1: just out of boredom, like everybody was doing everything we
Speaker 1: were written, and he was really good. He had like
Speaker 1: some great lines and then you know he's not like
Speaker 1: a writer, but he's now a co writer.
Speaker 2: He gotta cut, so I guess he is.
Speaker 3: It's such a good song and this whole album Postcards
Speaker 3: from Texas. Marianda, You've done so many different things. What
Speaker 3: does this album mean to you? And how would you
Speaker 3: describe the overall vibe of it.
Speaker 2: It just feels will circle to me. It feels like home.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's technically my tenth studio album, and the
Speaker 1: last time I made a record at home was when
Speaker 1: I was eighteen, my little independent project. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: just felt like I got out of a twenty year
Speaker 1: deal with Sony and I've signed to Public Records and
Speaker 1: Big Loud Nashville is our partner. And just having these
Speaker 1: two teams that lead with art that are so excited
Speaker 1: about new music, and for me, especially being in it
Speaker 1: so long, to have that kind of like enthusiasm an inspiration,
Speaker 1: I just felt like, I'm going to go back home
Speaker 1: and make this record and like start where the root
Speaker 1: of it all started, like really dig into what got
Speaker 1: me to chase this in the first place. And so
Speaker 1: this record has like little pieces of every influence I've
Speaker 1: ever had in all the kinds of music I've ever
Speaker 1: loved it.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, I guess it's that front of.
Speaker 1: Like the last two decades of like what I've built,
Speaker 1: But I wanted to go full circle and take it
Speaker 1: back home to the root.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, Randa, We're around guys that we cover,
Speaker 3: you know, in the NFL, and we know what it's
Speaker 3: like for them to prepare for a season, what it's
Speaker 3: like for them to prepare for a game. It's why
Speaker 3: we are massive sports fans and love the guys and
Speaker 3: the coaches and the teams we get to cover. Sorry
Speaker 3: if this is ignorant in this world but in your world,
Speaker 3: but I'm so excited to hear about it. What in
Speaker 3: the hell was into writing songs? For writing putting an album?
Speaker 2: Each other?
Speaker 3: I mean, do you go to different parts of your house?
Speaker 3: Do you take trips? Is there a full.
Speaker 2: Bottle of wine? I mean, how do you It's.
Speaker 3: Like you're preparing for your NFL season? How do you
Speaker 3: put an album together?
Speaker 2: You know, it's different every time. This time, I really.
Speaker 1: I just spent a lot of times thinking like what
Speaker 1: is it that I need to do now?
Speaker 2: What do I get to do now? And I didn't.
Speaker 1: You know, I did write a lot for this record,
Speaker 1: but I've went and pulled some old songs that I
Speaker 1: hadn't like listened to in a decade, you know, some
Speaker 1: of my own. I called all my friends that are
Speaker 1: amazing songwriters, and I'm like, sing me songs. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for like all kinds of things and inspiration, and so,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a lot of preparation. It's
Speaker 1: because you know, a record sets up at least the
Speaker 1: next two to three years of your life, with your
Speaker 1: tour and on your promo and all the imaging. It
Speaker 1: sort of sets up like, Okay, the next three years
Speaker 1: look like this, and this is the imaging and this
Speaker 1: is the branding and this is the sound. And so
Speaker 1: it's not nonchalant to me. It's like I really want
Speaker 1: to plan that out. And you know, in this case,
Speaker 1: in Postcarson, Texas, it was like it felt a little
Speaker 1: easier than some of the other ones, honestly, because it
Speaker 1: was like, let's just go to Austin and get some
Speaker 1: amazing players, and I have a house right by the
Speaker 1: studio and I could stumble home, which was really convenient,
Speaker 1: and just like this time, I felt like it was.
Speaker 1: It was us smooth and easy because I didn't have
Speaker 1: to set anything up for like what is what is
Speaker 1: what am I gonna what's my imaging going to be?
Speaker 2: It was like, I'm just gonna be mean, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna myself. Like not that I have it.
Speaker 1: I've always been authentic to myself and just who I am.
Speaker 1: But I feel like almost every record I've made was
Speaker 1: like a kind of a snapstraduct the last two or
Speaker 1: three years, like this is where I am, is just
Speaker 1: what's happened in my life, and this one just feels
Speaker 1: like here's a lot of information of exactly who I am.
Speaker 1: Like Brendan, he said, this is the most you record
Speaker 1: I've ever heard you make. This record feels like you
Speaker 1: on tape, and I was like that that is exactly
Speaker 1: what I wanted it to be.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that's a coincidence, because you know
Speaker 3: where you are in your life right You mentioned like
Speaker 3: you've always been you and you've always been authentic, which
Speaker 3: is one of the many reasons that people love you.
Speaker 3: It's why we love you is because like it or not,
Speaker 3: Aaron and I very much are like who we are,
Speaker 3: and that's sometimes met with criticism, but we don't care.
Speaker 3: I think we're both out of like bucket like place
Speaker 3: in our lives and that we're very confident in our
Speaker 3: own life. Forty, better, worse and different. You just turned forty, right,
Speaker 3: I did, and it's awesome. It's awesome, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a little it's freeing, and it feels like, yes,
Speaker 1: just more permission to like only care about the opinions
Speaker 1: of people that really matter to you, and the rest
Speaker 1: of them just their noise. And I don't I give
Speaker 1: even less of a shit now about the noise, because
Speaker 1: I want the people in my circle that are really
Speaker 1: valuable to my laugh and that I value everything they say.
Speaker 1: I listen to them, and I draddled the noise, and
Speaker 1: I feel like turning forty really helped me like do
Speaker 1: that even more. And everyone that didn't that forty says
Speaker 1: it's the best decade, and so I'm like, let's go.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 3: Is there a song that you love on this new album,
Speaker 3: Postcards from Texas, which by the way, is coming out
Speaker 3: September thirteenth. Is that correct? Yeah, that's right. Is there
Speaker 3: a song about not giving a shit? Because that's really
Speaker 3: been Chris and I's anthem. Although I do love Armadillo
Speaker 3: because that was my secret password when I was a
Speaker 3: child and we lived in Texas. If a stranger ever
Speaker 3: picked us up, our parents are like, the secret code
Speaker 3: word is Armadillo, that ever happened. Yeah, but I will
Speaker 3: literally not give a shit song like don't give a
Speaker 3: shit now.
Speaker 1: I think Damite Randy is the closest, and there's also
Speaker 1: one called Bits on the Sauce, but.
Speaker 2: She doesn't it's so good. But yeah, you know, I
Speaker 2: just feel like, you know, and I have to do.
Speaker 1: I did Wranglers on this record too, and it felt
Speaker 1: really important to me, Like, you know, people say, oh
Speaker 1: you're back, I'm like the fiery girl never left, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like there's songs on this record
Speaker 1: almost every song could have been on Kerosene, which is
Speaker 1: my very first album, or Crazy Ex Girlfriend or Revolution
Speaker 1: or there's like snippets of every phase of my musical
Speaker 1: career on this record, you know. So it feels I mean,
Speaker 1: my really good friends are texting me going this record
Speaker 1: feels like I could have heard Damn Randy on Revolution,
Speaker 1: and I could have heard Wranglers on kerosene, and it's
Speaker 1: like that makes me feel even better, Like I made
Speaker 1: the right choices and I and I stuck with my
Speaker 1: gut and made the record I was supposed to make
Speaker 1: for this time of my life.
Speaker 3: We're in so much of who you are is again
Speaker 3: but we love is that that not give a shit attitude?
Speaker 2: But in a way, I mean, there's all you know.
Speaker 3: There's the other side of that is like you do
Speaker 3: care and there are so many headlines that get written
Speaker 3: and you have lived your life in a spotlight, So
Speaker 3: how do you balance that? And where does your confidence
Speaker 3: come from to be able to just put away the
Speaker 3: noise and to know what's true to yourself and just
Speaker 3: sort of where does that all come from having lived
Speaker 3: in the spotlight for so long?
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get into this for the spotlight
Speaker 1: at all. I love country music like I got into
Speaker 1: it because I am lucky enough to get a gift
Speaker 1: of songwriting and.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I have this, I have to
Speaker 2: do something good with it. And I just.
Speaker 1: Didn't never want to, you know, I never remember saying
Speaker 1: like I want to be famous or any of that.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make music that mattered and really as
Speaker 1: a woman use my songs and my voice to you know,
Speaker 1: lift up other women to save dogs, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll talk about in.
Speaker 2: A minute, you know.
Speaker 1: I just I feel like I didn't get into it
Speaker 1: for that. So I've tried to not ever let that
Speaker 1: creep in because it's like it's also just noise, and
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not like it doesn't bother me sometimes.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course it does when people say things
Speaker 1: that aren't true, or take things out of context, or
Speaker 1: judge you on something that's completely false. You know.
Speaker 2: But I know who I am.
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't surround myself with yes people.
Speaker 1: I have real friends in my life, real people, and
Speaker 1: my management team. I've been with my manager for twenty
Speaker 1: one years and it's an all girl team over there,
Speaker 1: and they'll tell me the truth, you know, and so
Speaker 1: I don't. You know, I feel like it keeps me
Speaker 1: like in a good, grounded place, and I really worked
Speaker 1: on that my whole life, to stay grounded, even though
Speaker 1: this business is crazy.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's such a good I love we Aaron.
Speaker 3: I've obviously work in a male dominated industry, okay, find
Speaker 3: all of that kind of stuff, and I've always been like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm a guy's girl whatever. As of the the last
Speaker 3: few years, I have leaned so hard on my girlfriends.
Speaker 3: Like I remember, I was in a terrible marriage and
Speaker 3: Aaron called me and she goes, I will not be
Speaker 3: friends with you anymore. If you stay in this, you're
Speaker 3: ruining your life. You're ruining your And she was the
Speaker 3: only person that would have the balls to say that
Speaker 3: to me. And she was exactly like, it was exactly
Speaker 3: what I needed and the catalyst to give me out.
Speaker 3: And I leaned so hard on my female relationships now.
Speaker 3: So that's so cool that you have that, because they'll
Speaker 3: save your life. They're like the life jacket on your
Speaker 3: boat that will just save you from drowning in your
Speaker 3: own shit sometimes.
Speaker 1: So they are and it's important to tell the truth,
Speaker 1: and it's important to lift ech other up like good,
Speaker 1: bad and ugly, you know.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of times.
Speaker 1: People think women are like peitted against each other, and
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's true, not in my world.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, go run live your dream, be amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm here for the highs, I'm here for the lows,
Speaker 1: and my friends are there for me for both of
Speaker 1: those things too, and I just think, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a lot more energy to like, you know, somebody said
Speaker 1: this the other day. I was on vacation with my manager,
Speaker 1: went to Italy. It was amazing. We went to Como
Speaker 1: and Florence and Tuscany. It was awesome for her birthday
Speaker 1: and there's a big group of people, and there was
Speaker 1: this really wise friend of hers, Elizabeth, and she said,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a difference in winning and wanting to
Speaker 1: beat everybody. And I was like, wow, that really struck me,
Speaker 1: because we can all win, but when you start trying
Speaker 1: to beat each other and like step on toes to
Speaker 1: get where you think you need to go, is where
Speaker 1: all the ugly comes in.
Speaker 2: And if you.
Speaker 1: Just stay in your lane and lift each other up
Speaker 1: and cheer for them even if they are ahead of you,
Speaker 1: it's like everybody, we're all going to win in our way.
Speaker 2: At some point, you know.
Speaker 1: And I just think that that resonated with me, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to use that a lot in my life
Speaker 1: living for you know, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: I do want to talk about my nation, but I
Speaker 3: would be vested if I didn't ask you this, and
Speaker 3: maybe for you to give a little bit more of
Speaker 3: your PEP talk motivation love to my best friend. You've
Speaker 3: been very public about what's gone on in your life
Speaker 3: in terms of marriage, finding love again, getting married again,
Speaker 3: and saying, you know, I'm.
Speaker 2: So glad I did it.
Speaker 3: This is the happiest I've seen my best friend in
Speaker 3: a relationship. And it's one of those. And I don't
Speaker 3: know about your Like my husband wants to hang out
Speaker 3: with her boyfriend. I call her boyfriend her husband because
Speaker 3: I want them to get married.
Speaker 2: What do you recommend about doing it again? Miranda? You know,
Speaker 2: I'm so happy.
Speaker 1: I learned so much from all the experiences that were
Speaker 1: even you know, I always say, you don't learn when
Speaker 1: everything's going great.
Speaker 2: You don't learn when.
Speaker 1: Everything's this smooth fale, and you get the lessons thereing
Speaker 1: the hard stuff. And that's where I really grew as
Speaker 1: a woman and kind of grew in my heart and
Speaker 1: like understood myself more, and so I think I can.
Speaker 1: I spent so much time like relearning myself during that
Speaker 1: really hard time to like when I met Brendan, I
Speaker 1: felt like I was much more prepared and like much
Speaker 1: my heart was like much more open and ready to love.
Speaker 2: And I'm also a risk taker. I'm like, I take risk.
Speaker 1: In my career, I take risk with my charitys and
Speaker 1: my brands, so why not take I mean, no risk,
Speaker 1: no reward. It's like I know that love loving big
Speaker 1: means her big, but pain does subside, and so if
Speaker 1: that's the only risk is the pain I lived through that,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, let's go. Let's because I want the
Speaker 1: reward of what this great love can be and it's
Speaker 1: worth it to me to like just run and jump
Speaker 1: off that cliff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And a lot of my friends are like, they say
Speaker 1: to me, like you're crazy, but we wish we were
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I think it's like what do you have to lose?
Speaker 3: You know, it is really inspiring to hear that, because
Speaker 3: I do believe in love. And I will tell you
Speaker 3: who the number one indicators of a good man is dogs.
Speaker 3: When I first introduced my dogs to my boyfriend, they
Speaker 3: didn't bark, they didn't growl. And these dogs are like
Speaker 3: I've got six, Miranda, but these two in particular would
Speaker 3: be the first ones to be like warning, warning, like
Speaker 3: aboard mission. So when you know that like you have
Speaker 3: a good man, is when the dogs are all in.
Speaker 3: You do incredible things. You love dogs the way that
Speaker 3: Aaron and I do, and we I just mutt Nation.
Speaker 3: Please tell everybody more about it and how you got
Speaker 3: started and where your love of animals and particular dogs
Speaker 3: came from.
Speaker 1: Well, I had nine dogs when I met Brandon, nine rescues.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, And I was like, now, I'm like,
Speaker 2: why didn't you think I was like a crazy dog
Speaker 2: lay And yes I am a crazy dog lady.
Speaker 1: So he saw that and married me anyway, but he like,
Speaker 1: but speaking of dogs, like, I started my Nation with
Speaker 1: my mom in two thousand and nine, and my mom
Speaker 1: and dad were private investigators my whole life, so we
Speaker 1: sort of like wanted to use her like her experience
Speaker 1: and like vetting people to Like I was asking my
Speaker 1: fans to go, hey, I started a charity called My
Speaker 1: Nation Foundation. We're asking you for money, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to be able to tell them where their dollars were going,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where, like what exactly we're
Speaker 1: spending this money on. And so my mom and I
Speaker 1: just started this little, you know, kind of mom and
Speaker 1: pop operation back then to raise awareness for span neuters,
Speaker 1: to push adoptions adopted shop to we we started it
Speaker 1: just for that those small little reasons because I used
Speaker 1: to volunteer at the shelter in these Texas. But it
Speaker 1: just has grown so much and we've done such amazing
Speaker 1: programs and we've raised almost.
Speaker 2: Ten million dollars since did we start?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: Ten million dollars Marida. That's incredible, incredible, And.
Speaker 1: We have saved hundreds and hundreds of dogs and we
Speaker 1: don't have a shelter some people. I mean, we got
Speaker 1: a text today it was like I found a dog.
Speaker 1: Like so I worked with a ton of shelters. What
Speaker 1: we say is that nation lifts up the shelters, like
Speaker 1: we help with renovations, we help with transport vans. We
Speaker 1: give grants every year to all fifty states, to shelter
Speaker 1: in all fifty states to you know, I just met
Speaker 1: a lady the other day that we had given a
Speaker 1: grant of five thousand dollars to last year, and she
Speaker 1: bought a transport band because she saves mama dogs that
Speaker 1: had puppies, because she like fosters the puppies. I mean,
Speaker 1: just these little organizations all around the US that people
Speaker 1: aren't really looking out for. That's where my Nation comes
Speaker 1: in because we see them, because we see them and
Speaker 1: they're small. And we also do huge things like when
Speaker 1: Harvey happened, we were booths on the ground. We had
Speaker 1: every vehicle we could find, and we were down there
Speaker 1: moving dogs out and helping.
Speaker 2: Place local dogs.
Speaker 1: And it was one of the hardest but most rewarding
Speaker 1: things that I've ever been a part of. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm really thankful that people are sewing into
Speaker 1: this charity. That's it's my number one passion. I mean,
Speaker 1: music and mus are my two things that I'll live for.
Speaker 1: And so the fact that I can mix the two,
Speaker 1: that my music has got me a platform that can
Speaker 1: speak for the voiceless, makes me so happy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Well I really want to get involved, and I will
Speaker 3: talk to your people about that because I'm very passionate.
Speaker 3: I don't have children, and like these are my children,
Speaker 3: and my whole feed and Instagram is like dog rescue
Speaker 3: and savings and like literally then just crying and be like,
Speaker 3: how can I help this random dog in Alabama? So
Speaker 3: I totally feel that, and Aaron does too. She's got
Speaker 3: her Golden retriever Howie, and we're so passionate about that.
Speaker 3: So it's amazing. I can't believe you raised ten million dollars.
Speaker 3: That's really really, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: And you know, I will say that when sometimes people
Speaker 1: like I get overwhelmed, even like I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing enough.
Speaker 2: I can't do enough. I can't save them all.
Speaker 1: But I do think that if people can't, you know,
Speaker 1: if they're not in a position to go adopt a dog,
Speaker 1: or they're not in a position to you know, volunteer
Speaker 1: for ten hours a week. It's like just one hour
Speaker 1: of your time a week, like can change the entire
Speaker 1: trajectory of a dog's path, like interacting with humans, getting
Speaker 1: them out of the their create or getting them out
Speaker 1: of their enclosure for an hour and human interaction. So
Speaker 1: like I encourage people, we're not asking just for money,
Speaker 1: maybe just an hour of your time a month, even
Speaker 1: it's it's start small, because every little bit counts. And
Speaker 1: I have to remind myself of that all the time
Speaker 1: because I get overwhelmed. I follow all these filters and
Speaker 1: I'm like, how can we help? But that's what my
Speaker 1: nation is here for. It's like one little, one little
Speaker 1: step at a time, and we can do huge, amazing things.
Speaker 3: Thanks beautiful can find out more about Mutt Nation at
Speaker 3: muttnation dot com because that's where I went to check
Speaker 3: it all out.
Speaker 2: What's your biggest hope?
Speaker 3: What what do you want to What do you want
Speaker 3: to get bigger and better about all this? What's your dream?
Speaker 1: I want to really raise awareness, Just keep raising awareness
Speaker 1: for people. Filters are not scary places. They seem scary,
Speaker 1: but they are amazing dogs that are already there that
Speaker 1: need homes. So we need to cut down on the
Speaker 1: breeding span. Neuter is so important, y'all. It's like there's
Speaker 1: just there's this, you know, rush of this certain kind
Speaker 1: of breed everybody wants, and then everybody breeds it, and
Speaker 1: then they bring them to the shelters, and it's just
Speaker 1: it keeps perpetuating the problem, so, you know, and raising
Speaker 1: more money. I mean, I'm doing a show in Nashville
Speaker 1: on October fifth Edison called Music for Months, and it's
Speaker 1: all the money goes straight to the Nation so we
Speaker 1: can fill our pot again and start pushing out money
Speaker 1: to all of the amazing people we work with.
Speaker 2: And this awareness is our biggest thing.
Speaker 1: Like I really want to encourage people to just give
Speaker 1: it a shot.
Speaker 2: Just go buy the shelter. If you're in the market
Speaker 2: and all to adopt.
Speaker 1: Just stop by and see, like who grabs your heart,
Speaker 1: because they will.
Speaker 3: It's so it's funny to say that because I'm like,
Speaker 3: I want to adopt them all. And so I recently
Speaker 3: have purchased a ranch, a much smaller ranch than yours.
Speaker 2: I know you have. I think you have four hundred acres.
Speaker 2: Is that right outside of Nashville? Incredible?
Speaker 3: And I was like, I just want to rescue them
Speaker 3: all and bring them all to the ranch they can
Speaker 3: just run around and be free. But it's really beautiful
Speaker 3: what you've done, and I definitely want to and we'll
Speaker 3: get involved to help you.
Speaker 2: So let's just go back to your other passion of music.
Speaker 3: You have done so much and obviously in the world
Speaker 3: that Aaron and I are in with athletes, we're constantly
Speaker 3: asking them, you know, what do you want to your
Speaker 3: bucket list of like check off the things?
Speaker 2: Do you want to win the MVP?
Speaker 3: Obviously their goal is always to win a Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 3: Do you have goals that you set for yourself? I
Speaker 3: mean the countless awards that you've already achieved in your career,
Speaker 3: and is this your tenth record.
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeahrect your double digits, sister.
Speaker 3: I mean, is there is there a checklist of what
Speaker 3: you want to achieve or do you just continue to
Speaker 3: live out your dream every day and be grateful for
Speaker 3: where it goes.
Speaker 2: I want I have a lot I want to do.
Speaker 2: I don't have it like all.
Speaker 1: I actually talked to my manager about that this morning
Speaker 1: on the phone that I want to like lay it
Speaker 1: out on paper. And the great part about it all
Speaker 1: is that I'm only just turned forty and I achieved
Speaker 1: so many of those from my like goal list early,
Speaker 1: which was really.
Speaker 2: Over you like I thought, you know, but I really
Speaker 2: feel like music has led to so many things my nation.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to keep growing and getting bigger
Speaker 1: and better with that my brand idle Wind at boot Barn,
Speaker 1: I peoper involved in that like you have the Fringe.
Speaker 1: I'm super involved. That nothing I have my name on.
Speaker 1: I see everything that has my name on it, like
Speaker 1: cats Rosa are bar on Broadway. The first I just
Speaker 1: want to I like, three chords have have led me
Speaker 1: to all of this, and that's crazy. Think about you know,
Speaker 1: my dad taught me, We taught me four in case
Speaker 1: I needed an extra yeah, taught me towards at seventeen
Speaker 1: on the guitar, and then all all these other amazing
Speaker 1: things have come to fruition and so, but all that to.
Speaker 2: Say, it starts with the music.
Speaker 1: So I just want to keep creating because I just
Speaker 1: started a label called Big Cloud Texts. I'm a founder
Speaker 1: of that label to sew into younger artists, especially from
Speaker 1: our amazing states. So much music comes out, and there's
Speaker 1: so many kinds of music. So I just want to
Speaker 1: keep letting all the arms that have like reached out
Speaker 1: from the music grow. But I have to keep that
Speaker 1: creative part so sacred because that's where it starts and end.
Speaker 3: I was reading a great article where you talked about,
Speaker 3: you know, much like Chris, I don't have kids. Chris
Speaker 3: has got, you know, all her animals. I know you
Speaker 3: do as well, but like to mentor young artists. And
Speaker 3: I'm not young and I'm not an artist, but I
Speaker 3: feel like you're mentoring me right now with all the
Speaker 3: things are saying, what kind of advice do you give them?
Speaker 3: What's your first piece of advice when they want to
Speaker 3: kind of try this industry out, or they have these
Speaker 3: dreams or want to you know, write down these words
Speaker 3: on paper, what do you suggest to them?
Speaker 1: You know, my mom's advice to me when I started
Speaker 1: at seventeen was know who you are and stick with it,
Speaker 1: and that has gotten me through this crazy roller coaster
Speaker 1: of business, entertainment business. So I that's my first piece
Speaker 1: of advice. It's like, I want to know who you are.
Speaker 1: I want to know how hungry you are too, Like
Speaker 1: you have to. I mean, this is not for the
Speaker 1: faint of heart, especially for female artists, Like you got
Speaker 1: to really want it and know what it takes to
Speaker 1: get there. And so you know, I asked them to
Speaker 1: ask themselves that because my mom made me ask myself
Speaker 1: that and me not having a plan. B.
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to go to college. I didn't. I
Speaker 2: wasn't very good at school.
Speaker 1: Like I just knew that I wanted to chase this,
Speaker 1: and so my parents would like, think long and hard,
Speaker 1: because there's no plan.
Speaker 2: To me, this is your college money, like this it is,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I feel like, you know, you can
Speaker 1: tell early on if someone's gonna really want it, and
Speaker 1: I think the hunger for it and the passion war
Speaker 1: is so important.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 3: Aaron and I talk about that all the time. When
Speaker 3: you know, women will ask us Aaron and I both whatever.
Speaker 3: We twenty years into this wonderful industry. This was both
Speaker 3: our dreams to be sports broadcasters, and we feel so
Speaker 3: grateful every.
Speaker 2: Day to do it.
Speaker 3: But young girls will be like, I want to be
Speaker 3: on TV and you're like, Okay, well, this ain't got
Speaker 3: to work because you have to be able to think
Speaker 3: about those you know long that weeks and months and whatever,
Speaker 3: and you're away from your friends and you're away from
Speaker 3: your family, and you're staying in the middle of nowhere,
Speaker 3: and like it sounds like a parallel path in a
Speaker 3: way of like you're playing those small bars that like
Speaker 3: no one's in, and like you're having to do that.
Speaker 3: So when you say that your parents were like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's your college money.
Speaker 2: What were you using that money for my gas to
Speaker 2: get to a club a guitar?
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, honestly, it was like and my I
Speaker 1: mean my parents were cops and p I's like, we
Speaker 1: didn't have much, and so I knew like if I
Speaker 1: use this, that's it, or I'm just gonna have to
Speaker 1: go work at the dog shelter, which will also I
Speaker 1: would have loved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do both exactly. Now I get to
Speaker 2: do both.
Speaker 1: But this was it's just a it's a crazy path,
Speaker 1: but it's beautiful to be able to recognize early, like
Speaker 1: this is my dream. I'm going for it and like
Speaker 1: Hiller High Water and it takes grits. And I love
Speaker 1: seeing that in people like you, guys, because I know
Speaker 1: how hard it is to get to where you want
Speaker 1: to go and not everyone is cut out for it,
Speaker 1: you know, but when you get there, then you have
Speaker 1: so many stories to tell, and like you can help
Speaker 1: younger women go, hey, this is what it takes. And
Speaker 1: I'm here for the eyes goodbye and ugly, Like I'm
Speaker 1: close with Landy Wilson and I'm so I love watching
Speaker 1: her star rise and like he called me one night
Speaker 1: and it was her. I was late at night and
Speaker 1: I was on the bus. He was on the bus
Speaker 1: and she's like, she's like, hey, I just want to
Speaker 1: call you because my song went number one, my very
Speaker 1: first number one, And she was like, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to hear your voice because I wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: somebody who knew exactly what that felt like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what does it feel like? That's so amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, it feels like it feels like, oh my God,
Speaker 1: like relieving because you need it so bad. And then
Speaker 1: it feels like, oh shit, now here we go, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because it's a big deal. So
Speaker 1: I just things like that. That's where I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: glad y'all have each other. I'm glad that you can
Speaker 1: find this this girl tribe that you can lift each
Speaker 1: other up and be like here for the highs, there
Speaker 1: for the lows.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you something, something bad and you
Speaker 3: and Carrie that song. I listened to that song over
Speaker 3: and over and over, because you know they're not all
Speaker 3: women are.
Speaker 2: Supportive of other women, especially in this industry.
Speaker 3: And I know for you you've been lucky and have
Speaker 3: great girlfriends in the music industry, but I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: a few that you won't name that are not always
Speaker 3: the same way. And so like when I listen to
Speaker 3: that song, I'm just like so jacked up, like something
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen, and you know what, watch out. But no,
Speaker 3: I just love that you have those relationships in the
Speaker 3: music industry, especially just because you can relate to what
Speaker 3: one another's going for.
Speaker 2: I love that going for.
Speaker 1: Yeah and Carrie, I mean we've been in it the
Speaker 1: same amount of time. I mean like we've been we've
Speaker 1: stayed in the game. And you know, I got to
Speaker 1: see her show in Vegas when I had my residency.
Speaker 1: She had hers at the same time, but only one
Speaker 1: of the times did our shows like overlap, which was
Speaker 1: during an NFR, And so she came to my show
Speaker 1: and the next time I went to her show, and
Speaker 1: it was just her show was amazing, y'all have y'all good,
Speaker 1: But like we got to just hang after and it's like,
Speaker 1: can you believe we're like look at us like that,
Speaker 1: because we're like still friends, still just killing it and
Speaker 1: lifting each other up, and like he's great about menstorn.
Speaker 1: She always brings junk female artists on her tour, and
Speaker 1: so I just you know that is like that's way
Speaker 1: more fun and having hate and being caddied. You know,
Speaker 1: it's way more fun to celebrate things together than like
Speaker 1: trying to tear each other down. Chrissa, we're the Miranda
Speaker 1: and carry of We're like freaking in it. God would
Speaker 1: be us for Halloween. It gets out to.
Speaker 3: Be say, Aaron has a fourteen month old and I
Speaker 3: agreed to go as Oscar the Grouch as part of
Speaker 3: one of the members too. We'll do that now you
Speaker 3: I have your clothes. I want to know what it's
Speaker 3: like having your residency, because it seems like a grind.
Speaker 3: What's the coolest and the toughest part of it?
Speaker 1: You know what, there's parts of it that are a
Speaker 1: lot easier than the road, and there's parts of it
Speaker 1: that are a lot harder. I mean the road is tough.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like it's sleeping on sleeping moving. I
Speaker 1: always say, it's really weird. I mean, you joined the circus,
Speaker 1: you live on tell us with people you're not in
Speaker 1: love with or related to. Weird, But we all just
Speaker 1: did it to get other and I've loved it and
Speaker 1: I've done it for since I was seventeen.
Speaker 2: Of it on the road.
Speaker 3: But of those bunk beds, I've always wondered, like they
Speaker 3: always look like they're so like packed in there. I mean,
Speaker 3: now you've got, you've got I'm sure a much larger bed.
Speaker 3: But at the beginning, like, oh, yeah, I was on.
Speaker 1: The bus, but yeah, I was on the bus with
Speaker 1: eleven dudes for like three years and we were doing
Speaker 1: like two hundred and twenty shows a year.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was grand And at some point someone has his
Speaker 3: stomach ache. You know, that's where my I threw up.
Speaker 3: They it was back in our party day.
Speaker 1: So they were like, yeah, beyond the curtains, Io step
Speaker 1: in Pea because the camp while we're moving, it's just like,
Speaker 1: all right, those are the stories where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me give you the real tea. It looks glamorous
Speaker 1: when you step off the bus and SlowMo with your
Speaker 1: friend John, But it's only for those moments that it's glamorous.
Speaker 1: The rest of it you're like, oh, there's another dumpster cool,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I love all the
Speaker 1: parts of it. But Vegas was a great break from that.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, spot We rented a house in the
Speaker 1: burbs because like there's real life off the strip, like
Speaker 1: people just lived like regular lives.
Speaker 3: And a friend's hasband played for the Golden Nights. My
Speaker 3: husband played hockey. So yeah, and I was like, what's
Speaker 3: it like living in Vegas. She's like, it's actually pretty great.
Speaker 3: Like you go obviously to the strip sometimes, but yeah,
Speaker 3: she's like, it's real life.
Speaker 1: It is, And it was actually and the weather's great,
Speaker 1: except that the summer it's really hot.
Speaker 2: But the weather was was awesome. I loved it. I
Speaker 2: love the desert.
Speaker 1: That's just so opposite of where I'm from that I
Speaker 1: just get so much inspiration from the desert and the sunsets.
Speaker 2: They're stunning. But I love Vegas.
Speaker 1: I mean every it's a lot. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: you can go get in.
Speaker 2: It or you don't.
Speaker 1: But I did love like the crowds were so they
Speaker 1: came dressed to the nuns, like, and I got my show.
Speaker 1: I got to have you know, we can't do certain
Speaker 1: things every night because we have to loaded all in
Speaker 1: a truck and go to the next city. So in
Speaker 1: Vegas it was like this stacee put and so it
Speaker 1: was like and there's no such thing as too much
Speaker 1: of anything there, So as many bronstones as we could find,
Speaker 1: as much friends as we could find, as much fire
Speaker 1: as we could put on the stage, many their lives,
Speaker 1: like we just did a big It was really really fun,
Speaker 1: And I haven't been that nervous in a long time.
Speaker 1: It's opening Vegas, Like I was so like my adrenaline
Speaker 1: was just going crazy because you know, I don't I've
Speaker 1: done this so much. I still love it, but I
Speaker 1: just kind of smooth sail through it. It's I don't get nervous.
Speaker 3: But that was really Yeah, you don't get my way.
Speaker 3: I think that's interesting, you know, yeah, because you never
Speaker 3: had that. I mean, of course you have it a
Speaker 3: little bit, but like it just was so natural from
Speaker 3: the beginning for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really would.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get like jitters in a good way,
Speaker 1: like I'm excited, but I don't feel like really nervous.
Speaker 2: But opening it on in Vegas, I was. I was
Speaker 2: on edge a little bit. I just wanted it to.
Speaker 1: We did so much rehearsal and so much planning. I
Speaker 1: really wanted it to like land where it was supposed to.
Speaker 2: But I loved it. I was. I'm so thankful for
Speaker 2: that time. It was two years resident peace. We didn't go,
Speaker 2: but I come see me out there. That's okay. We will.
Speaker 2: We are dressed as Carrie and Miranda.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: You'll know it's us.
Speaker 3: Is it easier to write songs when you have heartbreak
Speaker 3: or you're in love?
Speaker 2: You know, I probably heartbreak. I mean that's the statruth
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: But I've learned that you don't have to live every
Speaker 1: sad song you ever write, and you know, there's this
Speaker 1: this kind of mentality, especially for young artists, like you
Speaker 1: have to be tortured artists and you have to like
Speaker 1: write about all your pain. It's like that is important,
Speaker 1: and I think feeling all the feelings so important for
Speaker 1: a songwriter.
Speaker 2: But you can't live in that. You can't.
Speaker 1: If I've heard enough that I can go back, I
Speaker 1: can just go dig in that well anytime I need to.
Speaker 1: But I'd rather not be tortured and like live a
Speaker 1: happy life and I can still write a damn good
Speaker 1: sad song.
Speaker 2: We're All Gonna Be okay. Man got me through a
Speaker 2: lot of things, Miranda.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you. I would listen to that song
Speaker 3: and I would cry. It will make me cry out,
Speaker 3: but it was so cathartic. Like as a songwriter you
Speaker 3: help people through experience that in your ability to express
Speaker 3: what like we're thinking but don't even know how to
Speaker 3: put it down on paper. It's like, so I just
Speaker 3: my dad when I was a little kid driving the car,
Speaker 3: and he would make me take out the front of
Speaker 3: a CD cover remember when all the lyrics used to
Speaker 3: be and I love that, And he would make me
Speaker 3: He's like, you can't like a song if you don't
Speaker 3: know what's about. And he would make me look learn
Speaker 3: all the words of songs. So now when I listen
Speaker 3: to songs, it's like all about the lyrics. Obviously there's
Speaker 3: the melody, that's for sure, but like words matter, and
Speaker 3: like that, tin Man is just like do you have
Speaker 3: a again, You can't pick a favorite song, but is
Speaker 3: there a song of yours that like just resonates maybe
Speaker 3: more than others for you?
Speaker 1: Tin Man is a big one, you know. It's one
Speaker 1: of those two. I wrote that being very vulnerable and
Speaker 1: it's scary. It's like, okay, well there's so on this
Speaker 1: record Carson, Texas. There's one called Run that was a
Speaker 1: solo rite from like twenty fifteen or sixteen, and I didn't.
Speaker 2: Record it ever because I with them ready to.
Speaker 1: And I also like, when you write a song by yourself,
Speaker 1: that's really honest and it's really hard. You don't have
Speaker 1: anyone to hide, you know, I can't be like, well
Speaker 1: that was my co writer's story. Yeah, so but that's
Speaker 1: what I signed up for because that's the music that
Speaker 1: resonates with me. All the artists that I love, all
Speaker 1: the music I grew up on. Like, hearing about Merle
Speaker 1: Haggard turning twenty one in prison, I was like, oh damn,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I just appreciate.
Speaker 1: Honesty and vulnerability in music, in any art, you know,
Speaker 1: and just any human being. And so I sort of
Speaker 1: signed up for that, Like when I decided to be
Speaker 1: a songwriter and put my heart on tape. It's like that,
Speaker 1: I'm committed to that, even if it's hard sometimes. And
Speaker 1: then those are the stories that I get the most
Speaker 1: out of when people like you say, you know that
Speaker 1: song really got me through something good, because it cut
Speaker 1: me through something too. It's not just my story, it's
Speaker 1: all of our stories at times.
Speaker 3: You know, it was an anthem, So thank you for that.
Speaker 3: You really you give people gifts that you don't even
Speaker 3: like know you know how much. I'm sure you now
Speaker 3: understand when people tell you, but it really is special therapy.
Speaker 2: Give people free therapy. Yeah, exactly, because my therapy is
Speaker 2: not free either either. Who who would we be Shocked?
Speaker 3: Is on your favorite playlist, like your go to like
Speaker 3: pump you up or get you through some ship? Like
Speaker 3: who who are your girls?
Speaker 2: Who are your guys? You probably shocked? Mine, you mine.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I like love country, I really just do.
Speaker 1: But I love like Beyonce obviously, And I guess like
Speaker 1: if anybody would shocked, it'd probably be audio slave.
Speaker 4: Like shock, Okay, that's my like rage, Like we're going,
Speaker 4: do you have a dream collab?
Speaker 3: Like is there one you're like that's on your list
Speaker 3: where you're like I would love to whether it's right,
Speaker 3: or perform with or do a song anything.
Speaker 1: There's so many, there's so many. I'm like, I'm also
Speaker 1: truly open. I think I'm more open than ever. Like
Speaker 1: I love Tubble Rome like she's my newspapers. I love
Speaker 1: such a bad ass. So I got to meet Posts
Speaker 1: when he was hanging around NAS school. Such a sweetheart.
Speaker 1: So we'll collab at some point, and yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just keep my options open. And I'm trying to
Speaker 1: like find new inspiration from younger artists too, of all genres.
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 3: Like do you were like do you put like you're
Speaker 3: like okay to your manager like call so and so,
Speaker 3: like how does the collapse happen?
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's how it happens. And now it's like DM which.
Speaker 2: I slide into the DMS for a collab. Weird about that. DM,
Speaker 2: that's terrible about it. So I'm like, hey, what are
Speaker 2: y'all doing it?
Speaker 1: I'm feel weird about that, but usually I go through
Speaker 1: management because I don't people.
Speaker 2: I don't want to put people on the spot, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like if you see they read it and they didn't reply, like, hey,
Speaker 3: would you be interested in a cloud? I mean, does
Speaker 3: Miranda the Lambert get like that if they read it
Speaker 3: there's no response.
Speaker 2: I like, oh god, there's no bubble. No, I'm scared
Speaker 2: of rejection.
Speaker 1: But no, Like Charley Poos, we sat together at a
Speaker 1: table at the Grammys and then I DMed him and
Speaker 1: then we texted.
Speaker 2: He's great.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we need a clap, like it's a networking
Speaker 1: but it's just the new way.
Speaker 2: Just kids are doing it. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Well we know how busy you are. Thank you so
Speaker 3: much for being generous and jumping on and chatting with
Speaker 3: us postcards from Texas. I know that you say that
Speaker 3: it feels like you, and everyone in your your close
Speaker 3: circle says it's the most like you. So I'm so
Speaker 3: excited for you your tenth album. Congratulations, Miranda, thank you, thanks
Speaker 3: for having me on and let's say, oh, oh my god,
Speaker 3: you never asked. I was about to think of my
Speaker 3: damn you. Hey, he's so good to talk to you.
Speaker 3: You want to come to it? Are you going to
Speaker 3: come to any of our games?
Speaker 2: Come to a game? I want to go to a
Speaker 2: few games.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out my schedule because we want
Speaker 1: to thread up with album Chris.
Speaker 2: So I want to come to some games.
Speaker 3: Wait, so I have the Your husband probably wants to
Speaker 3: go to this. Well, no, Thursday night, we have the
Speaker 3: Giants and the Cowboys, so it's the best of both
Speaker 3: for you. It is and Giants.
Speaker 1: You were at that game in Texas last year. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that my makeup artist is in the other room.
Speaker 1: She saw you in the elevator. She said it was
Speaker 1: so cool, Jillian.
Speaker 3: I guess Miranda Lambert you saw her in the elevator.
Speaker 2: She said, oh yeah, he's so cuteful. Come here.
Speaker 3: She's gonna love that. Jillian, You're not because I have
Speaker 3: airplugs on. But I also have chiefs at San Francisco
Speaker 3: kind of a big matchup on fox wave to Miranda.
Speaker 3: So not in the room, Julian, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: Okay, So either.
Speaker 1: Any game I will I will literally get y'all's info
Speaker 1: and we will group text and we will and then
Speaker 1: we will brainstorm about what how it was cheerleaders dance
Speaker 1: song of mine should.
Speaker 2: This is, oh my god, this is great, dreams perfect, done,
Speaker 2: done and build me, yeah, brand build me. This is amazing. Well,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for having me and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: We will your love you bye.
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