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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to That's Your Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jeus and we are back for part two with Cindy.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: I can't say anything bad about that man, I'll be honest.

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Speaker 2: Even you know, after experiencing what I did with him,

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Speaker 2: I thought he was a little short with me on

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Speaker 2: the hot seat, to be honest, that I didn't deserve.

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Speaker 2: But in general, okay, thanks, No, I think he's he's

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Speaker 2: a high quality guy. He's smart, he's kind, he's family oriented,

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Speaker 2: he's caring, he's funny, he's like I mean, curious. There's

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Speaker 2: I can't say anything bad about him.

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Speaker 3: What did you No?

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Speaker 4: I want I want to ask the same question I

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Speaker 4: was going to ask, what did your daughters think?

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Speaker 1: If what did they tell you after they met him?

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Speaker 1: What did they think of him?

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Speaker 5: That's what I was going to ask.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, question is Yeah, I'm curious why you want to

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Speaker 2: know that question right now?

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Speaker 4: Because because because you speak very highly of mel and

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Speaker 4: I'm just curious if your daughters felt the same way

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Speaker 4: about him.

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Speaker 3: They did not. They did not, And interestingly.

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Speaker 1: Enough, now we're getting somewhere somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I would have to defend it after.

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Speaker 2: This, So my daughters and my son in laws. Because

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Speaker 2: it's not just the gals that those guys are protective

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Speaker 2: of me too. They're protective of me right, and we've

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Speaker 2: been through several relationships, so they're no longer shocked to

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Speaker 2: see me with a man. They're no longer so overprotective,

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Speaker 2: you know, just because they don't want to see me hurt.

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Speaker 2: They really do want to see me fall in love

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Speaker 2: and be in love and understand that being hurt sometimes

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Speaker 2: going to happen in relationships. And it was a very

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Speaker 2: short time period, so they got to all meet Mel

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Speaker 2: and chat with him on their show. You saw, you know,

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Speaker 2: Sarah and I having a conversation and she felt like

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Speaker 2: maybe Mel wasn't quite there yet. But what's interesting, she's

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Speaker 2: the only one I talked to after they spoke with Mel.

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Speaker 2: The others when they hugged me on the way out,

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Speaker 2: the girls were hugging me, Mom, you know, we believe

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Speaker 2: in you, but use your discernment. And the word discernment.

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Speaker 2: All three of them said the same word to me,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, that's just crazy. Where's that word coming from?

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Speaker 2: In our family? Judgment is right and wrong. Discernment there's

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Speaker 2: no value statement to it, it's what is right for you,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't. I couldn't understand maybe what they heard

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Speaker 2: or what they saw with mel And I even asked

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Speaker 2: him several times, like how did I go with my kids?

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking what really happened? Because I could get.

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Speaker 2: A disturbance in the force, so to speak, that there

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Speaker 2: was something up. And then when I came out of

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Speaker 2: the show and I had a chance to get my

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Speaker 2: phone back and obviously call my kids, they were like

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Speaker 2: who you know, they were relieved because they were worried

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Speaker 2: for me. They didn't think that he was the right

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Speaker 2: fit for me.

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Speaker 3: All it was.

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Speaker 2: It was unanimous and they're like, we would have, you know,

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Speaker 2: given him more time, and we could tell that he

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Speaker 2: wasn't as forthcoming as they would have liked to have

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Speaker 2: seen at that stage. But back to your point, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe if he had been on the show and known

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Speaker 2: how important that time was, he would have experienced hometowns differently.

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Speaker 2: And my kids would have experienced a different male because

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Speaker 2: I know I know that they would they would love

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Speaker 2: them given more time, the male that I've known, my

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it is such a high pressure situation hometowns.

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Speaker 5: You're getting so little time to kind of meet the

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Speaker 5: most important people in your life. So I would imagine

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so.

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Speaker 1: You want to go that same question again, I wonder

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Speaker 1: now probably.

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Speaker 4: Actually maybe maybe. So ultimately you send yourself home in

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Speaker 4: that moment, like you get into like you you leave,

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Speaker 4: you get into the suburban whatever car that is.

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Speaker 1: Suburban, whatever the I don't know what.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what they're using.

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Speaker 1: Are you all right?

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Speaker 4: Do you in your in your gut, do you feel

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me go back to that moment.

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Speaker 2: So I'm on the doc having dinner, knowing that I

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Speaker 3: Not be aware of any of the cameramen.

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Speaker 2: And any of the the sound people and the producers. Right,

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Speaker 2: you just have to from the entire show. You have

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Speaker 2: to just pretend like it's your real life, because it is.

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Speaker 2: We're dealing with my real life on camera. But I

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Speaker 2: just became aware of I can't stay here any longer.

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Speaker 2: But how do I get off?

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Speaker 3: You know? The way? The next step is for him

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Speaker 3: to give to read the fantasy card and for us

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Speaker 3: to walk off and go to the fantasy suite together,

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Speaker 3: and that's not going to happen. Do I have the

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Speaker 3: power to leave? Can I leave? Like? What can I do?

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing strapping me down.

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Speaker 2: But you know, in this mode, you're kind of just thinking,

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Speaker 2: you know, you were told to come have this dinner

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Speaker 2: at the table and you're having this conversation, and I

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Speaker 2: just knew I couldn't stay. And then the fireworks went off,

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Speaker 2: adding insult to injury.

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Speaker 5: That was really you know, yeah I heard, yeah, of course,

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Speaker 5: because you're probably watching being like I went into tonight

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Speaker 5: thinking I'd be watching these beautiful fireworks with someone I'm

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Speaker 5: must have been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was chaos. It was absolute chaos. And

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Speaker 2: even though I knew I had created chaos for these

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Speaker 2: amazing people who are putting the show together, I was sorry,

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Speaker 2: but I wasn't going back, and I had I really

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Speaker 2: had turned corner and made my decision and just decided

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Speaker 2: that I want a long term relationship if I'm going

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Speaker 2: to put this much in at this stage. And he

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Speaker 2: still doesn't know then he's probably not my guy, very

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Speaker 2: very the heart. One of the hardest things I remember

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Speaker 5: Yeah, did any part of you after leaving Antigua regret

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Speaker 5: not going to the fantasy suite? Wish you had said

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Speaker 5: anything differently? It's okay, take your time so hard. No,

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Speaker 5: it's okay, it's really hard.

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Speaker 2: I have I have no regrets about going to the

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Speaker 3: I wish.

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Speaker 2: I wish nothing but the best for mel Mel and Peg,

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Speaker 2: and that's how I know what I feel for him

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Speaker 2: is very genuine, like that true love, the true love

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Speaker 2: where you know, as much as I want it to

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Speaker 3: And I.

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Speaker 2: Here's something I learned a long ago, and I think

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Speaker 2: men and women have the potential to grow from this.

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Speaker 3: But it's kind of a lot. Are you ready for it?

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Speaker 3: You're ready.

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Speaker 2: There's there are people in our lives who want to

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Speaker 2: share time with us. Why wouldn't they. We live great lives,

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Speaker 2: we're fun to be around. We add, you know, color

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Speaker 2: share lives with us, and there are other people who

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Speaker 2: will commit to us. And knowing the difference between those

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Speaker 2: lot of confusion, years of it. And I carry that

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Speaker 2: to share time with me and that's great, but at

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Speaker 2: some point, if you want to stick around, you got

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Speaker 3: And I just you know, I.

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Speaker 2: See there's two different phases in people, not two different people.

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Speaker 2: I think you could still have somebody who wants to

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Speaker 3: But I just didn't. I wasn't getting that feeling from No.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so should we jump to a fry?

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Speaker 4: Well before we jump to a fr So, I like

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Speaker 4: what you just said there, and like, I guess moving

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Speaker 4: forward in your dating life, how how are you gonna

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Speaker 4: figure that out when you meet someone? Like, like, what's

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Speaker 4: how do how do you know? Like how do you

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Speaker 2: And like, yeah, I think I think it was my

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Speaker 2: roommate Monica. Monica be said to me, girl, do you

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Speaker 2: want to be in a relationship? Like anybody who's seen

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Speaker 2: go there are buckets in my life. I still have

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Speaker 2: who aligns the way I felt like Mel was aligning,

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Speaker 2: you know, I wanted more. And you know, if the sun,

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Speaker 2: moon and stars ever align again, I'm going to want

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Speaker 3: But what if not? Will I still walk away? That?

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Speaker 2: I think that will be the biggest test, Like if

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Speaker 2: faced with the same situation again, will I still walk away?

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Speaker 5: I feel like you will because you clearly are someone

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Speaker 3: I would hope. So. I mean, that's sixty years old.

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Speaker 3: I think you you should have a better understanding and

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Speaker 3: not that things can't change, right. Things will change, and

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Speaker 3: every season of our lives, like next month, could be different.

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Speaker 3: But I know what I want now, and I believe

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Speaker 3: It's it's you know, as a golden you carry the

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Speaker 3: their lives and your friends even you know, how how

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Speaker 3: do these people? How would a new relationship, a new

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Speaker 4: Think I think you'll. I think you'll you'll know, But

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Speaker 4: what do I know? Maybe you'll make a mistake. Who

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Speaker 4: We see you sit down, you talk to Jesse's kind

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Speaker 4: of everything you've been explaining to us, and then Mel

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Speaker 4: first time and what I believe would be months months months?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I knew I had to come back

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Speaker 2: for that taping, and it wasn't until to tell all

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Speaker 2: lot of trepidation. I didn't know how I would feel.

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Speaker 2: I didn't you know, I didn't I didn't know what

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to, you know, be excited about sitting

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Speaker 2: I've got strong boundaries there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was I tell you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we see on AFR that you express what commitment

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Speaker 3: And he had nothing else for me.

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Speaker 2: Had he had no idea of, you know, other than

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it seems that way. I really

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Speaker 4: If you or my mother, that would have been the

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Speaker 5: It's on you to figure it out how to do it.

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Speaker 4: I think you really went about this whole process the

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Speaker 1: Coming from you, I've been very successful on the.

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Speaker 2: I really, I really that needs the world to me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that, especially from a male's perspective too.

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Speaker 5: Of course, I think that the happy ending you're looking

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Speaker 3: Gonna bump into them. I'm waiting for the universe to

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna continue to be me and I've gone

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Speaker 5: What would your daughters love? What kind of guy would

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Speaker 2: Somebody who uses a few more words they I mean,

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Speaker 2: So somebody who enjoys watching sports, going to sports concerts,

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Speaker 2: And I think that they've seen me go through several

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Speaker 5: Would you ever consider being the Golden Batcherette if they

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Speaker 3: Do you think they could find thirty hot guys for me?

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Speaker 4: I hope so at least I mean at least at

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Speaker 3: And I think the bigger.

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Speaker 2: Question is, you know, what is it that the show

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Speaker 2: can yield and what can it show either goldens or

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Speaker 2: youngers or the whole world about this process, this stage

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Speaker 2: of our life, right, And so I think we need

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Speaker 2: to think about the next Golden Bachelor or bachelorette from

447
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Speaker 2: that frame and then find somebody that you could build,

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Speaker 2: you know, stories around, And of course it'd be great

449
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Speaker 2: to show great dresses and great great trips and great people,

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Speaker 2: but you know what do we really want to highlight

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Speaker 2: in those you know and showing this dating life and

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Speaker 2: in these decisions that we go through from Golden's and

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Speaker 2: what's interesting, Like I have some breakup advice? For example,

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Speaker 2: can I give you some break of advice, you puss,

455
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Speaker 2: because I literally my kids reminded me of this the

456
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Speaker 2: other day when they were in middle school. One of

457
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Speaker 2: their friends broke up with the first boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: And she was just sad.

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Speaker 2: We were sitting on they were sitting on the couch

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Speaker 2: and I was like trying to pep them up. And

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Speaker 2: I came down and you know, this is the first

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Speaker 2: boyfriend they've ever had, And I said, you know, there's

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Speaker 2: there's three steps to getting over a broken heart. And

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Speaker 2: they were like, oh, tell me more, you know, wise woman,

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Speaker 2: And I said three steps, three steps. I was making

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Speaker 2: it up on the fly, but it's true. Step one,

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Speaker 2: you gotta cry. You got to feel those feelings and

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Speaker 2: get through it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing that in my life. Step two, you

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Speaker 2: got to organize your sock drawer. And I mean this

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Speaker 2: because there's a lot of stuff that while you're in

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Speaker 2: a relationship you don't do you maybe neglect some friends.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you aren't paying attention because you're you know, you're

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Speaker 2: spending time in their relationship. So get back to organizing

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Speaker 2: your sock drawer and taking care of those things that

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Speaker 2: you may have neglected. And then the third is buy

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Speaker 2: a puppy. And I don't mean by a puppy, I

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Speaker 2: mean go find your happiness again, Go find your joy.

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Speaker 2: That's great, right now, I love somewhere between organizing my

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Speaker 2: sock jour and buying a puppy.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Well, that you made that up on the spot. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's that's very wise.

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Speaker 3: It stuck.

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Speaker 2: And so people think that I was so staged and so,

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Speaker 2: you know, performative on the show.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, really, that's kind of how I that's

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Speaker 3: kind of how I talk.

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Speaker 5: I didn't find that's good.

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Speaker 1: Let's real quick. I want to just like circle back.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch the Women Tell All?

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Speaker 3: I did?

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Speaker 4: Was there anything that came out during the Women Tell

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Speaker 4: All that shocked you that you didn't that you didn't

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Speaker 4: know about?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, give me some options or what I might

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Speaker 2: have been shot?

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Speaker 4: I guess, well, like what was the big I guess

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Speaker 4: the big part of Women Tell All?

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Speaker 1: Was the beginning with Nicole, all the Nicole drama or

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Speaker 1: you know, like regarding yeah Nicole Debby, listen.

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Speaker 2: Let me just first of all, Nicole is a good

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Speaker 2: friend of mine and we were early friends and were

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Speaker 2: good friends.

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Speaker 3: And I taste great.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we had her on the podcast, and

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Speaker 1: she's great.

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Speaker 2: She I tasted the lemon bars. She could take full

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Speaker 2: credit for him. They were not anything about there is

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Speaker 2: a hot take for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so fun.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Nicole. If you're listening, you better work

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Speaker 1: on those lemon bars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, to be fair, she had none of

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Speaker 2: her recipes with her, so yeah, she's doing it on

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Speaker 2: the fly.

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Speaker 5: Maybe that's why Mel sent her home. He was like, ah,

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Speaker 5: these did love to the Hype's time to cut her.

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Speaker 2: Now my bowlet as you could ask the crew about

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Speaker 2: my bowlot as it was a pretty big hit.

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Speaker 1: Really, how do you do? How do you can you

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Speaker 1: give me a quick how do you make it?

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Speaker 5: Joe's Italian?

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Speaker 3: Oh you too?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we were dealing with mansion food. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: I only had ground beef. I would normally do several

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Speaker 2: different types of ground lamb, pork, maybe bison, something like that,

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Speaker 2: depending on how much. And then you got to cut

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Speaker 2: your your carrots and your celery very small, dice like.

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Speaker 1: Almost an onion. You don't do onion as well.

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Speaker 3: I do less onion than you think.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's good for you. You don't really like onion.

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Speaker 2: I used onion, yes, and I seed up really big,

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Speaker 2: I mean really small, and you just cook it down,

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Speaker 2: just cook it down more than you think.

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Speaker 3: And you know, tomato paste.

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Speaker 2: It is really whatever the mansion had we had to

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Speaker 2: throw in there and just kind of play with it.

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Speaker 3: So we got lucky. But it was pretty tasty.

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Speaker 2: For no recipe and no strong ingredients turned out. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I put a lot of parmesan on the top and

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Speaker 2: it was perfect.

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Speaker 3: That's the key, Yeah, that is the key.

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Speaker 5: To end this podcast on a positive note. Can you

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Speaker 5: tell us kind of of one of your favorite memories

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Speaker 5: from being on the show and what you'll take away

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Speaker 5: from it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, oh wow, Okay.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite memories was being in my room

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Speaker 2: and my roommates are Alessandra, Alex Lever, Diane, Hello, funniest woman,

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Speaker 2: Monica Be, and Terry.

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Speaker 3: I mean Monica Be, this woman.

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Speaker 2: She would keep me up all night with just loved

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Speaker 2: our soft conversations, great room, but the bathroom that we had,

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Speaker 2: I'm really hopeful for this makeover, this mansion makeover. I

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Speaker 2: can't wait to see it. My bathroom had a mirror

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Speaker 2: about this big. It was tiny, and it was mounted

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Speaker 2: so high, so my beautiful tall Monica be could see

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Speaker 2: herself just perfectly. I saw literally this much of my face,

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Speaker 2: and it was so I never knew how I looked,

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Speaker 2: and so I always relied on my women to make

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Speaker 2: sure everything was tucked in, to make sure things were right.

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Speaker 2: And that's why it was really devastating to me when

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Speaker 2: they my room, when everyone from my room was sent

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Speaker 2: home and the big tier it's getting real, this one,

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Speaker 2: it's getting real, was because not because of Mel, but

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Speaker 2: that was because it's getting real because I had to

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Speaker 2: focus on Mel because it could no longer be just

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Speaker 2: about those friendships.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that mansion needs a makeover. It's long overdue, and

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Speaker 5: I'm so excited to see it. And I hope that

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Speaker 5: they included some big ass mirrors because.

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Speaker 3: The girls deserve that.

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Speaker 1: I need them, We need them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also my next door so I was

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Speaker 2: usually the first one up with the last one to

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Speaker 2: go to bed. The last one to go to bed

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Speaker 2: means I just would go listen to rooms and see.

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Speaker 3: Who's still awake.

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Speaker 2: And the party room was always Robin, Jerry, Carrol, and Amy.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I think that's why I'm so incredibly

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Speaker 3: close to them. I'd knock on the door. You can't

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Speaker 3: walk across the floor.

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Speaker 2: Jerry's like, come over here, come come by in my

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Speaker 2: bed with me, like I'll be impaled by a high heel.

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Speaker 2: So Robin was closed as I'm like, scoot over, Robin. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's just some of our favorite memories. We're late into

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Speaker 2: the night just talking and getting to know each other,

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Speaker 2: and we all live by ourselves. We're grown ass women,

592
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Speaker 2: and we got to go back and live with some

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Speaker 2: other women with like minded and it was a privilege.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's so fun.

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Speaker 1: Well, Cindy, this was really great. It was lovely.

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Speaker 4: Getting to meet you and talk to you. And I

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Speaker 4: think you're going to be just fine. You're probably gonna

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Speaker 4: find a guy like tonight. So yeah, thank you for

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Speaker 4: taking the time and coming on our podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You guys do such a lovely job, and you really

602
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Speaker 2: bring out some interesting aspects to the whole story behind

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Speaker 2: what is the Bachelor story? And I thank you for

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Speaker 2: that because it's really compelling and it's really important. It's

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Speaker 2: the single most important thing you could do is pick

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Speaker 2: your partner.

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Speaker 4: Thank thank you so much, and thank you to our listeners.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys for tuning in to Better Happy Hour.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.

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Speaker 5: We have new and exclusive interviews for you every single week.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Bye h