Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia Podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain time.
Speaker 2: That's neon o'clock for our friends in Oaker River, Manitoba
Speaker 2: on Thursday, June fifth, and we're live for Met Eater
Speaker 2: Hqan Boseman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by Jannis
Speaker 2: and Randall. On today's show, we'll recap Yanni's bear hunt
Speaker 2: and Randall's turkey hunt. Then we'll interview owen Bach Huber
Speaker 2: about Project Rattlecam. After that, Meat Eater Movie Club, we'll
Speaker 2: review its strangest film yet, followed by a fishy hot
Speaker 2: tip off, and finally, Kayak angler Christine Fisher will join
Speaker 2: us for some one minute fishing redemption. But first, before
Speaker 2: we hear about this successful bear hunt and successful turkey hunt,
Speaker 2: I have a listener feedback prompt for those folks who
Speaker 2: are joining us live. All your questions today give him
Speaker 2: to Phil. Let's let's make every Phil's gonna answer everything
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Speaker 2: video game level he's ever played? Is, what his favorite
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Speaker 2: always getting all kinds of questions. But but he doesn't
Speaker 2: want to throw himself into the spotlight.
Speaker 3: Is uncomfortable.
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Speaker 2: be phil feedback.
Speaker 4: All right for this Thursday, Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's he's mildly on board.
Speaker 4: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: I'm also excited. All right, let's talk about the bear
Speaker 2: hunt Yanni, big old dead bear in Manitoba. How to
Speaker 2: go down?
Speaker 1: H the actual kill? How'd that go down?
Speaker 2: You want to hear the story however you'd like.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to tell. Okay, let's see some photos
Speaker 1: that will help. That will help me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, jog the old memory.
Speaker 1: Along we baited. Oh wow, that's Craig McCarthy of North
Speaker 1: Mountain Adventures seeing his wife Melanie. They run a great outfit.
Speaker 1: Hi demand though, if you want to book a bear hunt,
Speaker 1: you can't get in there until twenty twenty nine. I
Speaker 1: found out.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty nine. Geez man, are are resident tags guaranteed
Speaker 2: in Manitoba?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, so they can hunt as much as
Speaker 1: they want.
Speaker 2: Have you been planning this trip since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: No, their demand has just increased with a little bit
Speaker 1: of day with a little meat eater exposure, but a
Speaker 1: little bit. But they've also just been crushing it, doing
Speaker 1: a good job. Like I said, it's a great outfit.
Speaker 1: It's the quintessential family run outfit. Like you are your
Speaker 1: stay in a cabin, but when you go have a meal,
Speaker 1: you're in their house having meals with their kids, who
Speaker 1: are both lovely, full on and they wouldn't feel bad
Speaker 1: if I called them like this, but their kids are
Speaker 1: getting to grow up, barrel and it made me sort
Speaker 1: of like rethink what I'm doing with my kids. They
Speaker 1: got a creek running through the backyard. The girl rolls
Speaker 1: in with like three creek chubs on a line, all
Speaker 1: muddy and dirty. What are you doing? I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: with those? I'm gonna chop them up and cheap feed
Speaker 1: them to the chickens.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe that was your bear bait.
Speaker 1: No baar bait was as you can see in those barrels,
Speaker 1: oats and corn doused with used fryer oil and then
Speaker 1: sometimes a few extra sweets. Dainties. They call him up
Speaker 1: there in that part of the world.
Speaker 2: Yanni is showing us a photo that looks like he's
Speaker 2: hunting in a zoo. There are two black bears ten
Speaker 2: yards behind a side by side who are waiting for
Speaker 2: the baits to be deployed.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I have videos, but side by side that
Speaker 1: canm is parked exactly where it is, and I'm leaning
Speaker 1: against it where Craig's standing there, and one of those
Speaker 1: two bears in that picture are eating from the top
Speaker 1: of the barrel, licking the grease off, like from me
Speaker 1: to you. So baiting really works, And what's cool about
Speaker 1: it is that, you know, because not everybody wants to
Speaker 1: be like, oh it's so easy, Well, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of work that goes into it. You know, you got
Speaker 1: to bait them up first, get them excited about it.
Speaker 1: They only start baiting, interestingly enough, about two weeks before
Speaker 1: season starts, so it's not a year round thing. It's
Speaker 1: not a long baiting season. It's just a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: But the cool part about the baiting is is that
Speaker 1: you really get to watch bear behavior which is super
Speaker 1: neat like spot sock hunting. You're never gonna sit there
Speaker 1: and get to hear all the little nuanced noises that
Speaker 1: they make. They have these very like Star Wars Wookie
Speaker 1: like sort of many growls that but it almost sounds
Speaker 1: like when they go into hyperspace and you get that
Speaker 1: kind of sound right when they're flying those bears, when
Speaker 1: another bear is approaching and getting getting a little too close,
Speaker 1: you just hear this.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 2: Is that how they sound?
Speaker 3: Phil, I'm sure in one of the trilogies it probably
Speaker 3: sounds something like that. That's not the first sound I
Speaker 3: would make, but you know.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's not. Maybe it's not hyper space, maybe
Speaker 1: it's some other sort of that.
Speaker 3: It sounds kind of like, yeah, tractor beam or when
Speaker 3: the Millennium Falcon is breaking down and it kind of.
Speaker 2: Goes Wookie adjacent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, that's it. Yeah, when they're whatever is
Speaker 1: powering the Millennium Falcon is like sort of powering down
Speaker 1: and they're like hitting the butts and knock and stuff.
Speaker 2: There fills index of movie sound effects over there. You
Speaker 2: could hear Yanni's impression and knew exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: All right, what else we got?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, bear baiting was cool. It works good. You get
Speaker 1: to check them out. We hung beavers. Beavers, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: are so attractive. Oh yeah, that's the one there where
Speaker 1: you can see my butt. That's the one where I'm
Speaker 1: super close to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're watching Yanni and a bear look at each
Speaker 2: other from how far? Like ten steps?
Speaker 1: Not even like I could have reached out three yards.
Speaker 2: Okay, you got long arms. Is there anything else that
Speaker 2: bothers their bait piles?
Speaker 1: Not too much. I was surprised that there wasn't more
Speaker 1: stuff coming in, like you'd see a few bears, maybe
Speaker 1: a squirrel would roll through. But yeah, and the pictures
Speaker 1: didn't really you know, we weren't catching skunks and other stuff,
Speaker 1: but the beaver. He said, he'll have deer carcasses, bear carcasses,
Speaker 1: and the bears are indifferent, but beaver carcass. They won't
Speaker 1: even look at that barrel full of corn oats, friar oil, doughnuts, croissants.
Speaker 1: They love the beaver. Craig thinks it's because it's one
Speaker 1: of the first foods available in the spring, and they're
Speaker 1: taught that that, you know, by mom. They go to
Speaker 1: a beaver run and just sit there and you know,
Speaker 1: catch catch beavers. So the first night at beaver was
Speaker 1: just hung on a tree ten feet up. First bear
Speaker 1: comes in, runs up there, gets it, runs off. You
Speaker 1: listen to them eat it for the next couple of
Speaker 1: hours in the bush fifty yards away. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: we got hang this beaver better, right for more entertainment.
Speaker 1: So one night we did sort of like a like
Speaker 1: a high linele you like tie off a horse too,
Speaker 1: and had it in the middle, but they really had
Speaker 1: no way to get to it, and they must have
Speaker 1: known that because they kind of were like, yeah, we'd
Speaker 1: look at it, smell it, we're not messing with the
Speaker 1: Next night we did it more of like how you
Speaker 1: hang food. We just throw it over a limb and
Speaker 1: it was maybe four feet out. That got their attention
Speaker 1: way more. They were like, oh, they could like touch
Speaker 1: the rope and then they could see that it was
Speaker 1: attached to the beaver. But still the first two gave
Speaker 1: it like two minutes and we're like, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: to the barrel, and he eats the stuff in the barrel.
Speaker 1: Third bear comes in, he's like, screw the barrel. Spends
Speaker 1: an hour trying to figure out how to get that
Speaker 1: beaver down up the tree, down the tree, going to
Speaker 1: the next tree over up that tree, walking out on
Speaker 1: the limb, like, came over to our tree, came up
Speaker 1: halfway up our tree and was like, dude, I'm getting
Speaker 1: frustrated over here. Get that beaver down. Went back down.
Speaker 1: Eventually grabs there's a video of this, grabs that yellow
Speaker 1: rope that the beaver's hanging by with his teeth, then
Speaker 1: gets it in his claws, goes to the base of
Speaker 1: the tree, lets it go, and the beaver sort of
Speaker 1: you know, it's been pulled up and it slides down stops. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he knew that or she that
Speaker 1: if you did that enough time, something would give. But
Speaker 1: basically he did that five times in a row, and
Speaker 1: eventually the little noose that we had around the beaver popped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at that point we were rooting for him because an
Speaker 1: hour into it, I'm like, man, I should just go
Speaker 1: down there and cut that thing down for that guy.
Speaker 1: He deserves to get that beaver.
Speaker 2: What was the movement like almost exclusively morning and evening
Speaker 2: or are they were also rolling in at one pm?
Speaker 1: They're according to the moul trees all day long, but
Speaker 1: the mature bores, it's a it's an hour of power thing.
Speaker 1: Last hour I shooting light ended the day that I
Speaker 1: killed my bear, and I think at ten twenty and
Speaker 1: I killed my bear at ten oh six. Damn yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, definitely the latest animal I've ever killed, I think,
Speaker 1: unless I miss forgetting something in Alaska. You know Alaska,
Speaker 1: you could kind of hunt that lad too. But it
Speaker 1: was cool because we had seen a bunch of bears.
Speaker 1: It's getting late in the day, be at that point
Speaker 1: that was the most we had seen. I think we've
Speaker 1: seen saw two cubs, the four one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: pounders that are like this guy that's in the video.
Speaker 2: Now you can and see the video that Yanni is
Speaker 2: referencing on the med Eater podcast YouTube channel. Check out
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Speaker 1: And then we saw like a lanky six footer but
Speaker 1: he just wasn't thick. And then it was cool is
Speaker 1: we could just barely see out to this field that
Speaker 1: was had just been dis maybe so it's just dirt,
Speaker 1: and you could see bears every now and then, and
Speaker 1: then eventually they'd kind of show up at the bait.
Speaker 1: So you see like Mama and she was this real
Speaker 1: pretty cinnamon and she had I think this one was
Speaker 1: the one with three cubs. She had like a black cub,
Speaker 1: a cinnamon cub, and a blonde cub. And but like,
Speaker 1: with fifteen minutes of light left, I look out there,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that joker looks like he's got a
Speaker 1: little more girth to him, you know. And sure enough,
Speaker 1: when he got to the edge of the meadow where
Speaker 1: he's maybe sixty seventy yards from the bait, everybody at
Speaker 1: the bait scatters, cubs are going up trees, everybody's getting
Speaker 1: out of there. This dude that finally had the beaver,
Speaker 1: he moves off like another fifty yards and this when
Speaker 1: this big sucker rolls in, and it was like the
Speaker 1: woods just went quiet, like he just rolled in. He
Speaker 1: was the man. But still then with such little bear
Speaker 1: experience for me, I looked back at Max. I'm like,
Speaker 1: is that the one I'm supposed to shoot? You know?
Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I mean, ends up being a almost
Speaker 1: four hundred pounder seven a square seven and a half feet,
Speaker 1: had a twenty and three quarter inch skulls is that
Speaker 1: boot and Crockett twenty one? Yeah, so he's real close.
Speaker 2: There, So you need to find a more generous measure, maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is. There's cracking out with the bear
Speaker 1: at the recovery and it was great. He only went
Speaker 1: like fifty yards. I'm guessing he was not alive more
Speaker 1: than thirty seconds. Shot him a six hundred grain arrow
Speaker 1: that was tipped with a two hundred grain iron wheel
Speaker 1: single bevel. Yeah, good shot, right through both both lungs.
Speaker 2: Is that your first bear with a bow?
Speaker 1: First bear ever? Oh? Yeah, first bear ever? Well, I
Speaker 1: killed one in my yard at mngus that had treed,
Speaker 1: but I don't really count that as it wasn't a
Speaker 1: hunted bear.
Speaker 2: You know, you said that you asked Max if this
Speaker 2: was the one you were supposed to shoot. I assume
Speaker 2: then that they had like a rollodex of what bears
Speaker 2: existed in this set of woods.
Speaker 1: Well, you have trailcam photos and videos right, sort of
Speaker 1: what's been showing up lately. But the thing was we
Speaker 1: were pretty late into May when we were actually there
Speaker 1: into June, and so the ruts definitely heating up, and
Speaker 1: so he's like, yeah, look man, like there's a sour round,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be boars rolling in. So there are these
Speaker 1: two and there was one that had a little white
Speaker 1: patch and there was the other one, which is the
Speaker 1: one that I had killed off his bait. But he's
Speaker 1: like there could be a giant chocolate.
Speaker 4: But they didn't have names. No liketron, no no jokers.
Speaker 2: That was what Yanni called him.
Speaker 1: They outfit pretty close to the boundary of a national
Speaker 1: park and it's I can't remember the acreage of the
Speaker 1: national park, but it's huge. And so they sort of
Speaker 1: have this, you know, sanctuary right next to him. And
Speaker 1: so they have this a constant replenishment of bears. So
Speaker 1: you really don't know who's going to show up.
Speaker 2: What's what's their program in the far the guiding deer
Speaker 2: hunters as well.
Speaker 1: A little bit of deer, mostly moose. I actually might
Speaker 1: go up and do an exploratory caribou hunt with him
Speaker 1: this I haven't decided that yet. I invited Clay. He
Speaker 1: was very excited, but it doesn't the dates don't work well.
Speaker 2: I guess that on the back from Randall means nothing.
Speaker 2: That he just gave you a minute ago.
Speaker 1: We can discuss Randal.
Speaker 4: I think we have a great on camera dynamic.
Speaker 1: Y yeah, I agree, I agree, it could be a
Speaker 1: good time. Exploratory means that another outfit that runs up there,
Speaker 1: has switched his business basically to all eco tourism. But
Speaker 1: he has the lodging and the equipment everything set up
Speaker 1: four caribou hunts, but he just doesn't want to do
Speaker 1: the hunting anymore. He's got just the same amount of
Speaker 1: money in eco tourism and doesn't have to deal with
Speaker 1: skin and critters and you know. And uh so he's
Speaker 1: basically said to Craig like, hey, if you want to
Speaker 1: run it out of here, you can just give me
Speaker 1: a you know, cut off the top. And so Craig
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything about it. He needs pictures, he needs images.
Speaker 1: He's sure it's a good hunt. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: well I could be here your guinea pig, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then maybe take Spencer and Randall with you. It's gone, we.
Speaker 1: Could do already. We've already ditched me eat.
Speaker 4: Roast reducts, battle north of the border.
Speaker 1: We'll go.
Speaker 2: We'll kill the thing and then cook it. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that look like a lot of fun. Oh it's
Speaker 1: a great, great trip. Man, We really got the whole
Speaker 1: Manitoba experience. Got killed on day three. We had two
Speaker 1: more days, so we got to go fishing for a
Speaker 1: half day, cooked an awesome bear meal. You know all
Speaker 1: this stuff about bears, whether you like them or not.
Speaker 1: And I'm in the same boat of being often being like,
Speaker 1: do I really want to kill a bear?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: They're kind of cuddly. Oh they're more curious or smarter
Speaker 1: than these other animals that we hunt or whatever. But
Speaker 1: as soon as I get to eating one, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I should kill a bear every year, because like, we
Speaker 1: just did an overnight Brian and then slow roasted it
Speaker 1: the next day, and then like ninety minutes you go
Speaker 1: to baste it and it's got an inch of pan
Speaker 1: juice and there's just besides maybe a hog. But I
Speaker 1: don't care what fat cow elk you shoot. You're not
Speaker 1: going to get an inch of pan juice in your
Speaker 1: roasting pan. No certain that animal or deer or care
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what I mean. And I'm pumped.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: I brought home a I brought home probably well over
Speaker 1: one hundred pounds of bear meal.
Speaker 2: Okay, now you're gonna have a big old bear rug
Speaker 2: in your house in the office.
Speaker 1: I haven't decided yet, man, I got a quote twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred for six footer and it goes up from there.
Speaker 1: So the seven footer, I don't even know holy what
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, but that's what. Yeah, that's what the
Speaker 1: going rate is right now. And h so I might
Speaker 1: just get her tanned.
Speaker 2: Okay, seems like a lot, I know.
Speaker 1: I mean that's half of another bear hunt to go on,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, wow. But it's also like, well, when's
Speaker 1: the next time you're gonna kill a seven plus foot
Speaker 1: black bear? Nine? I don't have to draw. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just got to get a spot before we move.
Speaker 2: On here about Randall's turkey ONNT you said you wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about an argument you and Max, Yeah, toast versus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, viewers can help us out too with this. So
Speaker 1: one morning, Eli Harris, whose new videographer Forrest Force on
Speaker 1: this strip, did a great job. He makes Max and I, uh,
Speaker 1: some tote in the whole breakfast, which is just when
Speaker 1: you take a piece of toast, cut out of a
Speaker 1: hole in the middle, crack an egg in it, fr
Speaker 1: it up. Max pours maple seers all over his and
Speaker 1: then proceeds to tell me that it's pretty much like
Speaker 1: French toast, and I'm like, you have kind of some
Speaker 1: of the ingredients are the same.
Speaker 4: Half of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not French toast. It doesn't taste like
Speaker 1: French toast.
Speaker 4: You don't make it like French toast.
Speaker 1: Well, you frieday in a pan. That part is similar.
Speaker 4: Is it closer to French toast or toast and a
Speaker 4: fried egg?
Speaker 1: I would say toast and a fried egg. Even if
Speaker 1: you put maple syrup on toast and a fried egg,
Speaker 1: I would still say it's closer to toast and a
Speaker 1: fried egg.
Speaker 4: It's very clearly a gimmicky way to make a toast
Speaker 4: and a fried egg. French toast.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's for a child, Like that's what
Speaker 2: you'd cook for your eleven year old. To get outside
Speaker 2: about cereal hope.
Speaker 1: See, I really enjoy a toad in the hole because
Speaker 1: I use a lot of I'm not saying a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of butter, so that toast is just
Speaker 1: like extra crispy buttery. Anyways, Max is like it's pretty
Speaker 1: much French toast. Eli is like adding his French toast.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't argue with either one of you. I felt like, no,
Speaker 2: I think you could have syrup on it. Not that
Speaker 2: wouldn't be offensive to me.
Speaker 1: It's not offensive I'm just saying it's not French toast.
Speaker 2: Not French tos.
Speaker 4: Agree with you there, Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 2: There's got to be some other weird regional names for
Speaker 2: that food that I'm not aware of.
Speaker 4: The egg and the yeah and yeah, a French term.
Speaker 1: I know, egg in a basket, bull's eye quote whatever,
Speaker 1: croaked to toast. What do the viewers say? Not even
Speaker 1: close to nest.
Speaker 2: One of them says, is what it's called egg in
Speaker 2: a basket?
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, looks like you got a quote on a
Speaker 4: on a rug. They're honest.
Speaker 2: Someone, someone's gonna lower the price for you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell any good tax numbers. They're big meat
Speaker 1: eater fans. D m me tell us about the the
Speaker 1: Cory's got a big bear rug too. We'll send.
Speaker 2: And maybe a turkey customer tell us about this dead turkey.
Speaker 4: Well, we didn't, Max and I didn't get into any
Speaker 4: arguments about breakfast food on our hunt. We actually didn't
Speaker 4: eat breakfast until after the turkey was dead because it
Speaker 4: got shot at shooting light.
Speaker 2: Essentially, it's amazing you two shot your animals, probably like
Speaker 2: six hours apart or something like that, but one of
Speaker 2: you in the morning, one of you in the evening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1: No, Max.
Speaker 4: Max took me out. We found a We went to
Speaker 4: a property hees got permission on. We started, climbed up
Speaker 4: to a little ridge and drank some beers and gobbled
Speaker 4: and the turkeys gobbled back, and then we glassed one up.
Speaker 4: Then we found another one and we never saw him,
Speaker 4: but we went back and that night Max said, I
Speaker 4: had to make the decision about whether or not I
Speaker 4: wanted to go to the one that we didn't see
Speaker 4: or the one we saw.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 4: And so we played a quick game of chance and
Speaker 4: the one that we saw. And you know, I can't
Speaker 4: really do justice to this hunt, So Phil, I spent
Speaker 4: about nine minutes yesterday using the movie maker feature on
Speaker 4: my iPhone and would you just play play that? I
Speaker 4: think it my first turkey hunt. Max took me hunting
Speaker 4: with that one.
Speaker 2: Oh you cut out the part of you running at
Speaker 2: the bird there. I like that, Thank you, sir. Thanks,
Speaker 2: it's Max crying in the background.
Speaker 1: Three three, first gobbler, look.
Speaker 2: At that sunrise.
Speaker 4: Dude, what a great day.
Speaker 1: Very nice.
Speaker 3: You know what that reminds me of is when like
Speaker 3: on Sesame Street, they'll have kids like I went to
Speaker 3: the fact the candy factory we got to watch them
Speaker 3: make chok plan. There's just a bunch of b roll. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was gonna.
Speaker 4: I was adding this stuff to the drive, and when
Speaker 4: I was like manipulating the files on my phone trying
Speaker 4: to send them places, it was like, do you want
Speaker 4: to open this in iMovie?
Speaker 1: And I was like, what the hell?
Speaker 4: Yes, I would like, but I literally couldn't figure out
Speaker 4: how to change the text on the title or how
Speaker 4: to get rid of it.
Speaker 3: It's not very just thought it was a really funny joke,
Speaker 3: but no.
Speaker 2: I don't think you did justice to how you determine
Speaker 2: which turkey were going After.
Speaker 4: We we flipped an empty es in canu in the
Speaker 4: in the truck as we drove onto the property, and
Speaker 4: it landed heads up or heads down, heads up, which
Speaker 4: was the ridgebird. Wow, bottom of the can was the
Speaker 4: house bird. So yeah, we hiked into where this thing
Speaker 4: was and about we didn't hear any gobbles, And ten
Speaker 4: minutes before shooting light, Max said he was going to
Speaker 4: start calling, you know, in fifteen minutes or so, So
Speaker 4: he's going to call just after shooting light to let
Speaker 4: the bird come down. Then right after he said that
Speaker 4: the bird started gobbling. So Max waited a little while
Speaker 4: longer till it was shooting light and started talking back
Speaker 4: to it, and it came right in and Max coached
Speaker 4: me through it. And I don't know if you could
Speaker 4: hear it in that in that little cinematic treat, but
Speaker 4: Max actually just goes get him and that's when I shot. Okay,
Speaker 4: So I didn't realize he was filming me, but he
Speaker 4: he sort of was coach. He's like, he's like, I
Speaker 4: just followed the sound with your gun barrel, so when
Speaker 4: it pops up, you don't have to move to get him.
Speaker 4: And so I shifted the barrel over slightly to where
Speaker 4: I last I heard it. And then there's a big
Speaker 4: fan in my face and then the fan goes away
Speaker 4: and this head comes up and they had turned sideways
Speaker 4: and then Max.
Speaker 2: Goes shoot him and I gave it to him, great
Speaker 2: adle movie. Clay Nwcombe come in and he said that
Speaker 2: was a film.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a that was a project.
Speaker 1: I doubt that's the real Clay nuke on this spy
Speaker 1: just some dude signed in Clay Nukee.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I hope it is Clay because he's been having a
Speaker 3: conversation with Brent, and Brent thinks it's class.
Speaker 4: I will say that the hardest part of making that
Speaker 4: was figuring out how to do the voiceover feature, because
Speaker 4: then when it has you record the voiceover, you can't
Speaker 4: listen to the audio, so you end up talking over
Speaker 4: the things you want to hear. So I probably did
Speaker 4: five takes on that, which was maybe four and a
Speaker 4: half minutes of the eight to nine minutes I spent
Speaker 4: making it.
Speaker 1: You nailed it, Now, what happened to the you were
Speaker 1: gonna Last time I saw you, you patterned a ten
Speaker 1: gage that you were going to use.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but remember that that trigger didn't work.
Speaker 2: No, you didn't remember that. I took trigger too heavy
Speaker 2: or too light or.
Speaker 4: A double trigger, and one of them just doesn't reset.
Speaker 4: And I've gotten it to get fixed. I took it
Speaker 4: right back away. I took it right back from the shop,
Speaker 4: took it straight to the two seven seven shooting experiment.
Speaker 4: Cracked off one barrel. We were all impressed, and then
Speaker 4: I went to crack off the other one and just
Speaker 4: did the thing where you shoot a gun and you're
Speaker 4: anticipating the recoil and you just squirm. So it's fixed now, apparently,
Speaker 4: but I have yet to pick it up, so next year.
Speaker 1: We'll get the next Are you are you going to
Speaker 1: go turkey hunting again? Did you have that much fun? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I had a great time. I mean it was just
Speaker 4: like a fun morning.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I didn't suffer for it.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't dream about it. But it was very fun
Speaker 4: to see someone who knows what they're doing, just like
Speaker 4: work a property and then work a bird. So I
Speaker 4: learned a lot and I see the appeal of it.
Speaker 4: We've eaten two meals out of it so far. We
Speaker 4: did a little Katsu chicken style turkey bowl and then
Speaker 4: we did.
Speaker 2: Two comments I want a highlight. One of them is
Speaker 2: Clay Newcombe says, this is the Clay Newcombe, which is
Speaker 2: exactly what an imposter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say someone and then and
Speaker 3: then he also said a Kern spell too hard. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's exactly what someone who wasn't Clay would say to
Speaker 3: make us think that they were.
Speaker 2: And then someone else said, Randall Spielberg.
Speaker 3: Randall Ford Coppola, that was another one.
Speaker 2: There you go, first bear hunt story or excuse me,
Speaker 2: first dead bear story, first dead turkey story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well done, boy, a couple.
Speaker 1: First, Hey, thanks all right. Moving on.
Speaker 2: Joining us on the line now is Owen back Huber,
Speaker 2: a grad student from California Polytechnic State University. He's here
Speaker 2: to talk about Project Rattlecam. Owen, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Owen.
Speaker 2: First thing, tell us what Project rattlecam is.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So, Project Rattlecam is a partnership between cal Poly
Speaker 8: and Dicketson College run by my advisor Emily Taylor and
Speaker 8: our partner Scott bo Back, and we use cameras to
Speaker 8: study snake behavior. So this actually started by using trail
Speaker 8: cameras at battlesnake dens to get a sense of what
Speaker 8: they were doing throughout the year. But they do so
Speaker 8: many cool behaviors right that we can't really capture that
Speaker 8: with just still images. And so that's where we're using
Speaker 8: live streaming cameras now to broadcast these dens live to
Speaker 8: YouTube so that we can study them as well as
Speaker 8: share them with the public.
Speaker 2: And what sorts of things can scientists learn from this
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven monitoring.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so, as I'm sure that you know, just the
Speaker 8: presence of a researcher near an animal can have an
Speaker 8: impact on their behavior, and so a lot of our
Speaker 8: perceptions of what snakes are like and what they do
Speaker 8: are impacted by them responding to us right to see
Speaker 8: a snake. They might sit still trying to hope that
Speaker 8: you ignore them and move away. They might act defensively,
Speaker 8: and so what I'm studying is the social behaviors and
Speaker 8: communication between the snakes. So we actually see that battlesnakes
Speaker 8: have friends, they have individuals that they prefer to spend
Speaker 8: time with, and they seem to have communication too. So
Speaker 8: they do this really cool head twitching behavior where they
Speaker 8: kind of bob their heads at each other as they approach,
Speaker 8: and we're trying to figure out what that's all about,
Speaker 8: what they're saying.
Speaker 1: To each other.
Speaker 2: Okay, you have more intimate knowledge about rattle snakes and
Speaker 2: maybe anyone else. So walk us through the average day
Speaker 2: in the life of a rattlesnake that lives in Colorado,
Speaker 2: which is the live cam that you guys have available
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 8: These sites that we're watching are dens in that there
Speaker 8: are places where the snakes are hibernating throughout the winter,
Speaker 8: but now that we're getting into summer, it's turning into
Speaker 8: a rookery. So the snakes that we're watching right now
Speaker 8: are actually pregnant females who are going to stay here
Speaker 8: for the entire summer until they give birth later in
Speaker 8: the year. And right about now it is starting to
Speaker 8: hit the rocks. Things are warming up, so they're going
Speaker 8: to start to emerge in these rocks and basking the
Speaker 8: sun to warm up their internal temperature. And the really
Speaker 8: cool thing is that these snakes, because they're not leaving
Speaker 8: the dam, they don't have access to any standing water,
Speaker 8: and so whenever it rains, they're really thirsty. They come
Speaker 8: out and they flatten themselves out like a saucer, and
Speaker 8: they'll actually drink the water off of their backs. So
Speaker 8: sometimes too, we'll see predators come through, like magpies trying
Speaker 8: to eat the baby rattlesnakes, and so there can be
Speaker 8: a lot of drama that ensues with.
Speaker 2: You then tell us about some of the names the
Speaker 2: personality traits that these rattlesnakes have, and do rattlesnakes ever
Speaker 2: show up that you're not familiar.
Speaker 8: With all the time. So there are dozens, if not
Speaker 8: hundreds of adult battlesnakes that are using the site, and
Speaker 8: so it's impossible for me to keep track of all
Speaker 8: of them. And just imagine when each female gets worth
Speaker 8: to eight pups in August, right, that number increases by
Speaker 8: an order of magnitude. So it's really hard to know
Speaker 8: who's all there. But the ones that we see the
Speaker 8: most often are actually named by YouTube viewers. So if
Speaker 8: someone's watching and they see a snake a couple of
Speaker 8: times and they take screenshots, they can submit them to
Speaker 8: us and get naming rights to that snake.
Speaker 1: And so some of them.
Speaker 8: There's one who's a really charismatic male named Thor, and
Speaker 8: he's been sticking around. He's really desperate to find a mate.
Speaker 8: We see him courting a lot of females. He's even
Speaker 8: courted a couple of males, but we've never observed successful copulation.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 8: And some of the things too, are named after people's
Speaker 8: moms and dogs, and so they have really cute names
Speaker 8: to sometimes noodle names, you know, lasagna and ramen. So
Speaker 8: it's kind of a really fun thing. And you're seeing
Speaker 8: right now all these snakes kind of slithering out checking
Speaker 8: out each other. I can actually see that that's Thor
Speaker 8: in the bottom right there, because he has kind of
Speaker 8: a roopy lip. He was bitten in the face by
Speaker 8: an ant and ever since he was in there, the
Speaker 8: venom must have caused lip paralysis or something, so he's
Speaker 8: got kind of this droopy lip still. Okay, Yeah, it's
Speaker 8: pretty amazing. You can see some of those babies in
Speaker 8: there hanging out with him as well.
Speaker 2: You told us that Thor is charismatic, but it's because
Speaker 2: he is so desperate to mate with the other snakes.
Speaker 2: I'm amused by that description. What's the camera setup? Like
Speaker 2: case hunters, we're really familiar with trail cameras, but I
Speaker 2: assume the technology used now is way beyond that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you're seeing the camera right now. It is
Speaker 8: a axis security camera that is powered by two eight
Speaker 8: foot solar panels, and then we have a big battery
Speaker 8: bank that's.
Speaker 1: Up there as well.
Speaker 8: And so because this is totally off grid, we have
Speaker 8: to use cellular streaming to get that to YouTube, and
Speaker 8: so it's quite the operation to get that all up
Speaker 8: and running. And we're actually just about to publish a
Speaker 8: paper on the whole setup, because before this we were
Speaker 8: kind of working on our own with how we were
Speaker 8: going to figure this out, and so we had a
Speaker 8: really great team of engineers here at cal Poly we're
Speaker 8: able to put this together for us.
Speaker 2: And has your team had any close calls with snakes
Speaker 2: while setting up these cameras.
Speaker 8: You know, as a snake biologist, I wouldn't characterize them
Speaker 8: as such. So you know there are snakes, quite a
Speaker 8: few of them there. When we go to set up
Speaker 8: the camera. We went earlier in the year when few
Speaker 8: of them would be out. Some of the snakes were
Speaker 8: still out right and kind of doing their things, but
Speaker 8: usually they try to get away from us. We always
Speaker 8: make sure that we're wearing high boots right, so that
Speaker 8: if we accidentally did stuff on u snake and and
Speaker 8: see it, that would provide us some level of protection.
Speaker 8: And also you got to kind of make sure what
Speaker 8: you set down. So I went there last summer, and
Speaker 8: you know, if you set down your backpack, I was
Speaker 8: warned that a rattle snake might decide to make its
Speaker 8: home right underneath there, and sure enough, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 8: One of them decided to coil up, and so we
Speaker 8: just kind of moved the backpack gently and carefully and
Speaker 8: got that out of the way.
Speaker 2: You mentioned magpies, but what other animals show up on
Speaker 2: these cameras near the dens.
Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of animals that your viewers might be
Speaker 8: familiar with.
Speaker 1: So we've seen.
Speaker 8: Long shelled weasels, and there's a whole lot of wildlife
Speaker 8: that we could see. But two really exciting ones that
Speaker 8: we saw this past year were an elk came up
Speaker 8: and actually put its face right in the camera and
Speaker 8: checked it out, and then we saw a porcupine two
Speaker 8: on the camera. So it's kind of a window into
Speaker 8: all of the nature that you could see in this area.
Speaker 2: Tell us about some of the highlights. What are the
Speaker 2: best moments that your team is captured so far.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, one of the amazing things is that we
Speaker 8: can watch the snakes at night, and so that's when
Speaker 8: we saw those other animals. But also it's a lot
Speaker 8: of times when the snakes are getting birth, and so
Speaker 8: last year we got to watch two pregnant females give
Speaker 8: birth live to their pups on camera and zoom right
Speaker 8: in see the snakes pop their head out of their
Speaker 8: amniotic sac for the first time. You can see the placentas.
Speaker 8: It's all like right there in really high definition, and
Speaker 8: we can look so close at the snakes even that
Speaker 8: we can see bugs, and you might not think that
Speaker 8: bugs are that interesting, but we noticed these mosquito looking
Speaker 8: things kind of dancing on the snakes, and we didn't
Speaker 8: know what they were. But when we contacted an entomologist
Speaker 8: who studied flies, he told us that they were these
Speaker 8: psychoded flies that were actually looked like they were recording
Speaker 8: females so that the female the male flies don't eat,
Speaker 8: but the females feed on blood, and so that the
Speaker 8: males were doing like a dance trying to lure the
Speaker 8: female flies to mate with them on the battlesnakes, which
Speaker 8: you know, there's no fly cameras, right, So but if
Speaker 8: we can zoom in really well on this, it's providing
Speaker 8: a window to other people who are just it in
Speaker 8: totally different things too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and tell folks how they can support this work
Speaker 2: and how they can watch the rattlecam.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So you can learn more about us at battlecam dot org.
Speaker 8: And there we have a donate page where you can
Speaker 8: support our education programs and research and it also links
Speaker 8: right live to our YouTube. So project rattlecam is is
Speaker 8: the name of our YouTube channel where you can go
Speaker 8: and watch anytime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I checked in four or five times this
Speaker 2: week and preparing for the interview. Every time I open
Speaker 2: it up there were rattlesnakes on the camera. I was
Speaker 2: very impressed. It's it's twenty four to seven action on
Speaker 2: those live cams.
Speaker 8: It's pretty amazing. We had a camera set up in California,
Speaker 8: and the densities of snakes here just aren't the same.
Speaker 8: You know, we might see one to day or something
Speaker 8: like that, but this is a really impressive site where yeah,
Speaker 8: basically you can always see a snake.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it feels more intimate too, because when I go
Speaker 2: look at like a live bald eagle cam, there's fifty
Speaker 2: thousand people watching. When I look at your rattlesnake camera,
Speaker 2: there's like twenty five people watching. So we need more
Speaker 2: shine on the rattlesnakes. Turn off the bald eagle cams,
Speaker 2: go check out these rookeries that they have a live
Speaker 2: look at. Thanks for joining us, and thanks for creating
Speaker 2: a special way for people to interact with wildlife.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. It's my pleasure.
Speaker 2: Randall. I saw you making a lot of faces over here.
Speaker 4: Not a big snake guy, yeah, not a big snake guy. Serpents.
Speaker 4: Give me the hebgb's I'm sure there's other folks out
Speaker 4: there that feel similarly.
Speaker 1: Me too.
Speaker 2: I get a cold shiver anytime I see when it
Speaker 2: can be the most harmless small snake. I was just
Speaker 2: mushroom hung a week ago, came across four of them.
Speaker 2: Every time I just like sends a chill from my ankle.
Speaker 1: To my back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate it, hate it, hate it.
Speaker 2: All right, we're having the show anything to him though,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm very excited for this. I get plenty
Speaker 2: of exposure. That's not the answer.
Speaker 4: Good touches something in my deep caveman brain.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get some listener feedback. I'm very excited about
Speaker 2: this because it's all for Phil.
Speaker 1: Phil.
Speaker 2: What do we got?
Speaker 1: Oh boy?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: First one, let's see, let's starts. It's warm, warm people
Speaker 3: up here. I think I had one there.
Speaker 1: Let's Fill's favorite band? Someone asked, Oh, yeah, my favorite band.
Speaker 3: It's pretty close between Radiohead and an indie folk band
Speaker 3: from Portland called The Decembris. I love them dearly. Colin
Speaker 3: Malloy is a Montana native. The lead singer is also
Speaker 3: an author, and their songs are nerdy literary storytelling set
Speaker 3: to as music.
Speaker 2: How many times have you seen Radiohead Live.
Speaker 3: Radio had only once. They don't come here very often.
Speaker 3: I saw them on the n Rainbows tour in eight
Speaker 3: and it was incredible. I've seen I've seen The Decembrist
Speaker 3: probably a dozen times though, because they around the West
Speaker 3: Coast and and Montana.
Speaker 2: All right, Phil, give us some more.
Speaker 3: Phil, Let's see this is specifically for this one guy.
Speaker 3: I'm sure have you played Expedition thirty three yet? If so,
Speaker 3: what do we think? The answer is? Yes, I beat it.
Speaker 3: It rules my game of the year so far.
Speaker 1: Wow. Phil.
Speaker 3: Kingdom Hearts Guy. For those of you who don't know,
Speaker 3: Kingdom Hearts is a Japanese action RPG game that melds
Speaker 3: that was like a multiversal project that mixed the worlds
Speaker 3: of Final Fantasy and Disney IP. It seemed insane at
Speaker 3: the time. I was obsessed with this game.
Speaker 2: Aren't they unlike the twentieth edition?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been many spinoffs, each one more insane and
Speaker 3: preposterous than than the last season.
Speaker 1: It's still on.
Speaker 4: There's commercials for during the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't know what they have
Speaker 2: commercials for.
Speaker 4: Lebron does a commercial? Okay, game on a phone.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was so obsessed with this game. It came out
Speaker 3: on my seventh grade picture day. I brought the I
Speaker 3: brought the case to my school and asked if I
Speaker 3: could hold it up in my school picture and they
Speaker 3: said no, and I will devastate it. Phil, I hyped
Speaker 3: you for GTA six, pretty hyped. I really enjoy the
Speaker 3: GTA games and I but I never get into online.
Speaker 3: I play the campaign, the story mode, I have a
Speaker 3: great time. It's it's a blast, a lot of fun,
Speaker 3: and then I put it away.
Speaker 2: These are great. Give us some more films.
Speaker 4: Okay, uh, quick hitters love it?
Speaker 1: Oh boy?
Speaker 3: I think I saw one that was like death Row Meal.
Speaker 3: I might have not started that one. But death Row
Speaker 3: Meal simple just a really good fish and chips with
Speaker 3: a tartar sauce and malt and malt vinegar and a
Speaker 3: multi beer, uh preferably. But I'm I'm really not picky.
Speaker 3: I had I'm not pick pit picky with who fish
Speaker 3: at all?
Speaker 2: Who does good fish and chips? And Bozeman?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, not not a lot. I'd say, like
Speaker 3: the Bocus is solid. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 3: have any of any tis the Boccus is like my
Speaker 3: number one go to in in Bozeman.
Speaker 2: Is it goot Lawn? Is that the German like their
Speaker 2: fish and chip?
Speaker 3: I haven't had it, but I love the idea of
Speaker 3: having it there because that you can get the big
Speaker 3: german German steins of beer. There's a couple more, Phil,
Speaker 3: What game are you playing right now? I just played
Speaker 3: Death Stranding in anticipation of Death Stranding two coming out
Speaker 3: later this month. But also I was telling the boys
Speaker 3: in here before we started, I have an unboxed Nintendo
Speaker 3: switch to upstairs in my office and we can just
Speaker 3: turn the whole Q and A session into an unboxing
Speaker 3: video if you guys want to, Uh, let's let's let's
Speaker 3: let's call it there.
Speaker 2: If he was going to have to share his switch
Speaker 2: to with those Torp children he has, what was your answer, Phil? No?
Speaker 3: They they all they got their own switches for Christmas,
Speaker 3: and part of that was so when the Switch two
Speaker 3: came out it could be mostly mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good parenting advice there from Phil.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I'll do one one actual question for meat eater fans,
Speaker 3: And because the honest is here, Odie the Good Shepherd asks,
Speaker 3: how's mingus doing? And how's this training coming along? Kind
Speaker 3: regards on the other side of the pond out of
Speaker 3: Rotterdam in another ONLD.
Speaker 4: That's a hell of a port. Yeah, a lot of traffic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they mostly move through there?
Speaker 4: Whatever? Just shipping.
Speaker 1: Okay, Mingus is doing it, doing great. Uh, he's kind
Speaker 1: of trained up. My main mentor says that Mingus is
Speaker 1: as much of a lion dog as he's ever going
Speaker 1: to be, and he's not going to get any better.
Speaker 1: But he's great right now. He does his thing. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we're we're having fun. Season's over, so we're you know,
Speaker 1: Mingus is waiting for December first.
Speaker 2: At this point, how long will he be at the
Speaker 2: mountain top of his like best? I don't know lion hunting.
Speaker 2: Did they start to go downhill at some point? I
Speaker 2: suppose their physical fitness?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think that the you know, the older
Speaker 1: the dogs get, maybe they get more efficient, Maybe it
Speaker 1: gets you know, smarter about how they run tracks. I thing,
Speaker 1: this doesn't seem to be a real genius, So I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's gonna happen with him. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. He's only four now. I guess there'll be
Speaker 1: five this fall, So I imagine he's got at least
Speaker 1: that many more good years in his prime.
Speaker 2: All right, moving on, Our next segment is Meat Eater
Speaker 2: Movie Club. This week we're reviewing the twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: comedy Hundreds of Beavers.
Speaker 4: I've just passed out a few scripts. Your lines are highlighted, Corey,
Speaker 4: if you'll begin.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Oh hold on, Corey, I gotta turn your
Speaker 3: mic on here.
Speaker 2: They did not know about this was that you were
Speaker 2: you were intentionally leaving this at this very moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is why I was so concerned that the
Speaker 4: printer was working for me earlier. Perfect. So Corey, Yeah,
Speaker 4: your lines are highlighted.
Speaker 5: Am I on?
Speaker 1: Phil, You're on.
Speaker 3: And also, for those of you wondering this, these other
Speaker 3: man sitting at the table, is he's Jake. He's gonna
Speaker 3: be He's our newest addition to the podcast team. He's
Speaker 3: gonna be doing some stuff for Radio Live after they're
Speaker 3: starting at the end of the month. So Hi, Hi Jake. Anyway, Corey,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 6: The setting is the podcast studio Meat Eater, Headquarters, Bozeman, Montana.
Speaker 1: It's eleven one eight.
Speaker 4: No, no, you're supposed to read it as if it's
Speaker 4: before the show. Just read it as written.
Speaker 2: Jesus, A lot of work put into this.
Speaker 6: It's ten twenty eight am on Thursday, June fifth, thirty
Speaker 6: two minutes before the recording of Meat Eater Radio Live
Speaker 6: Episode forty one.
Speaker 4: Hey, good morning Randall, Good morning Phil the Engineer. Do
Speaker 4: you have all your jingles lined up for the show?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: All set on that front. Are you ready for me
Speaker 3: to eater Movie Club today? I think the whole movie
Speaker 3: club segment has played out. My monologues just get longer
Speaker 3: and longer. The tone has gotten darker and darker. The
Speaker 3: references are just too obscure. I think the jokes run
Speaker 3: it course, it's tired, and my heart's just not in
Speaker 3: it anymore. Well, at least we've got a great film
Speaker 3: to discuss today, right. I saw that the movie you've
Speaker 3: selected for this week as a score of ninety seven
Speaker 3: percent on Rotten Tomatoes. What's it called, hundreds of Beavers?
Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly right, hundreds of Beavers twenty twenty two,
Speaker 4: directed by Mike Cheslick and starring Ryland Bricks and Coal Tews.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I was a little surprised by that Rotten
Speaker 4: Tomatoes score, as well as the critical acclaim I saw online.
Speaker 3: Why so, Well, I just I'm not even sure what
Speaker 3: to make of the film. It was about trapping right loosely.
Speaker 4: Well, no, it is in the same way that Space
Speaker 4: Jam is about basketball, or maybe just a little less
Speaker 4: than that. There's a man who begins as a drunkard,
Speaker 4: something to do with apples. It's also very cold out,
Speaker 4: and he catches some fish with his fingers, and then
Speaker 4: he spends much of the film getting hurt while trying
Speaker 4: to catch critters of all kinds and increasingly elaborate traps
Speaker 4: and schemes. Half the time his plans backfire spectacular but
Speaker 4: large men in furry like beaver costumes are killed and skinned. Yes,
Speaker 4: and the plot does involve the accumulation of bodies of
Speaker 4: dead beaver men. But then the beavers hold a Soviet
Speaker 4: style show trial for the lead character before attempting to
Speaker 4: skin him and make a coat out of him. And
Speaker 4: there's a weird rocket ship at the end. It's partially animated.
Speaker 4: There's sort of a weird video game like quality to
Speaker 4: the whole thing. Ah, maybe it is more like Space
Speaker 4: Jam than I thought. And the whole thing's in black
Speaker 4: and white. It's just a lot of weird stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: The chat might be disappointed with this segment today, but
Speaker 4: at least it's not because they had to sit through
Speaker 4: yet another heavy handed film analysis in Migrating Monotone delivery.
Speaker 3: Oh man, wow, yikes, were there any highlights?
Speaker 4: Well, the thing that immediately comes to mind is the
Speaker 4: sound design. Absolutely fantastic. Lots of rattles and crashes and
Speaker 4: whistles and bonks. Brought me right back to the golden
Speaker 4: age of Tinseltown. Above and beyond that, I guess I
Speaker 4: just admire the commitment of the whole vision.
Speaker 3: The commitment to what exactly it's a comedy right, Well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose it is, but it's not that simple.
Speaker 4: It's more like a chaotic, avant garde comedic experiment that
Speaker 4: defies the conventions of mainstream filmmaking in the twenty first century.
Speaker 4: Yet at the same time, it's clearly in conversation with
Speaker 4: a variety of cinematic touch points. It's got Slapstick's sensibility,
Speaker 4: like three Stooges and Merry Melodies. We see traces of
Speaker 4: the stop motion aesthetics of South Park and tonally, there's
Speaker 4: a little bit of bert Ives Christmas specials. On top
Speaker 4: of that, the dramatic arc of the film is basically
Speaker 4: just a simplified version of the best eight and a
Speaker 4: half minutes of Home Alone. That is, the first Home Alone,
Speaker 4: the one where mccullay Culkin's character is actually alone at
Speaker 4: home and not at the Plaza Hotel in New York
Speaker 4: City of course. Yeah, and throughout the whole film, the
Speaker 4: main character just grunts and makes faces surrounded by actors
Speaker 4: and animal costumes that are eerily reminiscent of the rabbit
Speaker 4: figure in Donnie Darko. I also have to point out,
Speaker 4: only because it bothered me so much, that there's a
Speaker 4: brief nod in one scene to that terrible dogs playing poker,
Speaker 4: painting soft and displayed in suburban wreck rooms in American
Speaker 4: casual dining chains with friendly atmospheres, like, for example, Applebee's,
Speaker 4: TGI Fridays, Oh Charlie's and Chili's, or Benigans, But that's
Speaker 4: a more obscure reference because there aren't many Benigans around
Speaker 4: in these days since the parent company, Metromedia Restaurant Group,
Speaker 4: was forced into an involuntary Chapter seven bankruptcy in two
Speaker 4: thousand and eight. According to Benigans, dot Com. Only six
Speaker 4: full service, free standing locations remain open in the US WOW,
Speaker 4: two in Texas, two and Iowa, one in North Dakota,
Speaker 4: and one in Illinois.
Speaker 1: Although don't quote me.
Speaker 4: On that because I don't know if those are corporate
Speaker 4: locations or if that's inclusive of franchises. Regardless, it's a
Speaker 4: striking number, considering at one point there were more than
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty corporate Benegans locations.
Speaker 3: My goodness, that's interesting to learn about how few Benegans
Speaker 3: there are in the United States. I guess I'd noticed
Speaker 3: that their footprint had shrunk considerably since I was younger,
Speaker 3: but I didn't quite know the backstory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but a growing part of the business now is
Speaker 4: a derivative quick serve, fast casual concept, Benigan's on the
Speaker 4: Fly that's geared more towards high traffic locations like food courts, airports,
Speaker 4: arenas university campuses. They offer fresh, innovative selections, as well
Speaker 4: as some customer favorites from the traditional Benigans menu, including
Speaker 4: the Monte Cristo and the Turkey Tools spencer your laughing
Speaker 4: stop stop.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that information on Benegans on the Fly, which
Speaker 3: I hadn't heard of until just now.
Speaker 4: Looking to the future, the company has plans to expand
Speaker 4: its already strong international presence, which includes multiple locations throughout
Speaker 4: Central America, as well as two in ball Rain two
Speaker 4: and Guitar two in Dubai, and curiously four in Cyprus.
Speaker 4: Coming soon, there's a location in Pakistan two. These are
Speaker 4: all full service locations, by the way, just like the
Speaker 4: original Betigans. God damn it, I got sad tracked last
Speaker 4: night prepping for this show by reading about the resurrection
Speaker 4: of the Betgans. Brandon, I'm falling into the same trap again.
Speaker 4: We can't get distracted, Phil, We've got to figure out
Speaker 4: this movie club segment. Anyway, Back to the topic at hand,
Speaker 4: Hundreds of Beavers also includes these surreal sequences where reality
Speaker 4: just bends bends.
Speaker 3: How picture this.
Speaker 4: A wet piece of firewood is actually a log shaped pillow,
Speaker 4: so our hero is able to wring it out like
Speaker 4: a sponge. Or the fur trader spits his chaw of
Speaker 4: tobacco towards a spittoon, and then the plug just curves
Speaker 4: wildly through the air so it never lands in the
Speaker 4: intended receptacle until the very end, symbolizing the resolution of
Speaker 4: the conflict at the heart of the film. The physical
Speaker 4: universe of hundreds of beavers makes no sense, but somehow
Speaker 4: it works with its own hallucinogenic logic.
Speaker 3: And this goes on for how long?
Speaker 4: Well, I figured it would go on for about five minutes,
Speaker 4: but it seems like it's going longer than that. No,
Speaker 4: I mean the movie, oh, of course, an hour and
Speaker 4: forty eight minutes. I checked my phone a lot, actually,
Speaker 4: mostly reading about Bennigan's thinking we are surely near the end.
Speaker 4: But no, the movie just kept going. More encounters with
Speaker 4: people in animal suits, more elaborate failures, more falling in
Speaker 4: the snow, more rolling in the snow, more grunting, and
Speaker 4: more yelling.
Speaker 3: Do you think Spencer and Giannis enjoyed it?
Speaker 4: That's doubtful. I think it's too far out and left
Speaker 4: field creatively, speaking for Spencer's taste, and you're honess, Well,
Speaker 4: I know he appreciates good filmmaking and has a very
Speaker 4: open minded sensibility, but I'm not sure even he can
Speaker 4: make sense of whatever this is trying to be shit.
Speaker 3: Sounds like movie Club might be a pretty tough segment.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Spencer's got ten or fifteen minutes dedicated
Speaker 3: to it in the rerun of the show. The show
Speaker 3: will be recording in less than an hour.
Speaker 4: Don't worry, we can fill it out somehow. Too bad,
Speaker 4: we can't include all of that good information about Bennigans.
Speaker 4: That's fun pre show banter, but not exactly what the
Speaker 4: radio live audience is tuning in for totally. The thing is,
Speaker 4: I can't shake the feeling that there's something profoundly lovable
Speaker 4: about the madness of this film, Like you've got to
Speaker 4: admire an unshaking conviction to an absurd premise. You just
Speaker 4: come up with something completely bonkers and take it all.
Speaker 3: The way, so you respect it even if you don't
Speaker 3: fully get it.
Speaker 4: You know, the more I think about it, the more
Speaker 4: I like it. Actually, I just love stuff that is
Speaker 4: genuine in its weirdness. There's no cynicism, there's no winking
Speaker 4: at the camera. There's just a bold, unadulterated fever dream
Speaker 4: of a concept that doesn't shy away from the gaze
Speaker 4: of the critic.
Speaker 3: Well, what will you say on air? We're going live
Speaker 3: at eleven.
Speaker 4: I wasn't quite it's sure before this conversation, Phil, but
Speaker 4: it's becoming clear and clear as we talk. There's an
Speaker 4: interesting tension here. On the one hand, put yourselves in
Speaker 4: the shoes of the makers of this film. You are
Speaker 4: truly inspired by a creative concept, so over the top,
Speaker 4: so wrapped up in its own bizarre vision, that you've
Speaker 4: just got to run with it, and you can't half asset. Sure,
Speaker 4: sometimes it might leave yours wondering what the hell was that,
Speaker 4: But there's something joyful and beautiful in the deliberate insanity
Speaker 4: of it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, if you're so committed to producing
Speaker 4: something in keeping with your own comedic sensibilities, damn the viewer,
Speaker 4: you run the risk of losing the audience's attention, maybe
Speaker 4: even earning its resentment. And point is, at that point,
Speaker 4: you're just doing it for your own amusement, completely for
Speaker 4: your own amusement. And here's the big question. Is that
Speaker 4: type of content just masturbatory, self indulgent on the part
Speaker 4: of the artist film or is it a truer expression
Speaker 4: of creative integrity that.
Speaker 3: Well, geez, that's actually not a bad angle for movie club,
Speaker 3: assuming you're still talking about the film.
Speaker 4: Precisely, my friend, precisely.
Speaker 6: End scene, Wow, fade to black, Thank you, audience goes nuts.
Speaker 2: Yes they are. I gotta catch my breath. I didn't
Speaker 2: have to read anything.
Speaker 4: Oh man. I actually liked this movie more than I
Speaker 4: made it seem. I started working on this about halfway
Speaker 4: through when I wasn't sure when to make of it.
Speaker 4: But at the end of it it won me over.
Speaker 4: But I thought this was such a good bit that
Speaker 4: I couldn't let it go.
Speaker 3: Randall, I am glad you didn't. That was spectacular broken.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Broke.
Speaker 4: I told you someone was gonna cry in this building today.
Speaker 2: Randall correctly predicted someone would cry, and I have laughing tears.
Speaker 4: Thanks to Mogor for a very strange film.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how we had not heard about
Speaker 1: this film.
Speaker 4: Well, it's very new.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It was only released and the two the star and
Speaker 4: the director wrote it and they released it at a
Speaker 4: film festival and then they I guess a studio attempted
Speaker 4: to distribute it and they just wanted it to go
Speaker 4: to like streaming platforms, and it.
Speaker 2: Didn't even make it to streaming I think until like
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought this movie was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I think like Randall said in his in his commentary,
Speaker 3: it's a little long in the tooth, but percent man,
Speaker 3: so many creative gags like it was. I couldn't believe
Speaker 3: just how much stuff was unexpected or genuinely funny. I'd
Speaker 3: say that the jokes worked more than they didn't for me,
Speaker 3: which is, you know, key to a good comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, things I like, the music was great. To make
Speaker 2: any movie on one hundred and fifty thousand dollars budget
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two is wildly impressive, so it felt
Speaker 2: like it far exceeded that. It also felt like an
Speaker 2: Adult Swim bumper from two thousand and six. And that's
Speaker 2: a compliment because the weird on those bumpers. If you're familiar,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about. It's kind of limitless. Phil,
Speaker 2: I imagine you were really no idea. I'm lost. Y,
Speaker 2: you're a little old for that, Phil, explain.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it's kind of hard to explain.
Speaker 3: But Adult Swim had kind of shorter programming, so they
Speaker 3: would fill the just fill the space between shows with
Speaker 3: these kind of like short films and and just stuff
Speaker 3: that varied wildly. I think I think they just hired
Speaker 3: different crazy creative people to make just these these weird bumpers,
Speaker 3: like like Spencer said, this movie felt like one.
Speaker 2: Of those to me, But you know, drug Out over
Speaker 2: two hours, which I think was too long. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: in agreement there.
Speaker 4: I had a line initially in my review where I said,
Speaker 4: and I did have to cut quite a bit out
Speaker 4: of this really.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I had a line in my review where I said,
Speaker 4: it seems like something I should watch and hold my
Speaker 4: attention for about five to ten minutes on the internet,
Speaker 4: and maybe ten to fifteen minutes if I was drinking. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but like that's that's sort of it. But I liked
Speaker 4: that they were just like, we're going to make a
Speaker 4: two hour movie.
Speaker 2: This, Yeah, and this this felt like something that AI
Speaker 2: could not make, and that's refreshing in a world that
Speaker 2: feels like it's being swallowed by AI in this medium.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The movie got a real laugh for me around minute
Speaker 2: one hundred, when the daughter gets on a stripper pool
Speaker 2: that was unexpected, which most things in this movie are.
Speaker 2: And then shortly after that a word gets bleeped, which
Speaker 2: was also wildly amusing because there's no dialogue in the movie,
Speaker 2: so a bleep felt genuinely out of nowhere. I think
Speaker 2: bleeps are always funny. You could you could serve me
Speaker 2: a bleep in any show or movie and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: laugh at it. But I got a real, real giggle
Speaker 2: when that happened. Yeah, Yanni, did you watch this with anyone?
Speaker 2: You recording the idea of watching with your daughters and
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if you went through with
Speaker 2: it or not.
Speaker 1: I did, but we started a little late last night,
Speaker 1: which means two things. One, we couldn't finish it. Kids
Speaker 1: had to get to bed for school, and I fell
Speaker 1: asleep for many parts of the first half. Been a
Speaker 1: long day, short night the night before Little Sauna. You know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't It wasn't. It wasn't really like, I wasn't
Speaker 1: set up to make it through a movie. But I
Speaker 1: kept waking up at giggles. So every time I wake up,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can't be too.
Speaker 2: Your giggles are your daughter's giggles.
Speaker 1: So my daughters are giggling at these, at the jokes
Speaker 1: that you know are slap you know, slapstick funny. I
Speaker 1: did finish. I probably watched maybe seventy minutes of it
Speaker 1: this morning, so I got to pick it up at
Speaker 1: the important part. You know, I got the gist of
Speaker 1: ith it. You guys are, We're all saying the same thing,
Speaker 1: but you have to give it almost thirty minutes just
Speaker 1: to sort of be like, oh, okay, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm immersed in.
Speaker 1: I'm in now, because at first you're just like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, what I thought.
Speaker 4: The first thirty minutes could have been a five minute
Speaker 4: set up. Sure, and then it just begins with him.
Speaker 1: Well, you could truncate the whole movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, the movie should be twenty five minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I mean the Beaver, the Man, the Giant Man
Speaker 4: made out of Beaver's great The Beaver Show Trial was fantastic.
Speaker 4: The I also liked when she's skinning the animals, like
Speaker 4: she is a legit little kit there of big curved,
Speaker 4: fleshing knives and stuff like that. And then the one
Speaker 4: I think it's the raccoon that she skins, she begins,
Speaker 4: I think she does something to its head, but then
Speaker 4: she takes the arm and like breaks the joint. I
Speaker 4: thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 2: This was filmed in Wisconsin and Michigan, I think so.
Speaker 2: I assumed they're from that part.
Speaker 4: Of the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they like have some familiarity.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it didn't seem subject like, it.
Speaker 4: Seemed like people that knew what they were talking about.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, they don't give up on
Speaker 1: the slapstick. Like just when you think like they can't
Speaker 1: come up with something, you're like, oh, he just sneezed
Speaker 1: and this giant snot thing turned into an icicle and
Speaker 1: then killed something and the caster.
Speaker 4: The castor mounds and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but they also don't give up on keeping
Speaker 1: like the trapping aspect legitimate. Yeah, Like like the scene
Speaker 1: where he's I think he first gets his the leg
Speaker 1: holds and he's like chucking him out on the ice
Speaker 1: and he chucks it one time and it's not proper
Speaker 1: and then it's upside down and he has to do
Speaker 1: it three times to you know, do it properly. You
Speaker 1: could have just as easily, Yeah, chucked it out once
Speaker 1: and the trap could have caught any animal right, no
Speaker 1: matter how it came out there. But they were like,
Speaker 1: oh no, it has to flow out to this fake
Speaker 1: beaver right side up because otherwise, you know, the viewers
Speaker 1: are going to get mad that the trap caught this
Speaker 1: fake Beaver. Yeah, when the trap was upside down, I know.
Speaker 4: There's like there's like attention to detailing it that I
Speaker 4: was won over by the end of it. I still
Speaker 4: if I had a director's cut, shave about sixty one
Speaker 4: minutes off it. Yeah, but uh yeah, you got to
Speaker 4: appreciate just going for it.
Speaker 2: A couple other things I liked is they obviously did
Speaker 2: their own stunts, and there's at one point where he's
Speaker 2: like pushing a wooden box and then he falls into
Speaker 2: the wooden box and he gets out, he falls into
Speaker 2: it again and he nailed that part like that that
Speaker 2: was done really well. I also liked the idea of
Speaker 2: the Beaver dam is like a damn that is run
Speaker 2: by the Army Corps of Engineers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, matter, a massive hydroelectric damn.
Speaker 2: Things I didn't like, Yeah too long. I checked my
Speaker 2: phone a lot, and I was like, it's got to
Speaker 2: be about over and it wasn't. The other thing this
Speaker 2: isn't necessarily something I didn't like about the movie maybe
Speaker 2: just like the indie movie industry, is that this movie
Speaker 2: was showered with awards and I'm like, really, yeah, this
Speaker 2: was worthy of being nominated. I don't know, like fifty
Speaker 2: times and winning twenty times. This could not have been
Speaker 2: one of the greatest things that humans produced in cinema
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, even in the niche indie scene.
Speaker 2: I was like mildly turned off by that. When I
Speaker 2: saw afterwards, I was like, I can't believe that people
Speaker 2: felt like this was one of the best things from
Speaker 2: that year.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like the movie didn't affect me
Speaker 4: in any way. I went through it, I walked away
Speaker 4: and I was like, that's what I watched for an hour,
Speaker 4: and yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I was marveling at the creativity more than
Speaker 3: more than anything, because I think I think that was unparalleled.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I respect it. I respect it. I mean
Speaker 4: a strange, strange concept.
Speaker 1: But is there is there a message?
Speaker 2: I think their message was just like, look at the
Speaker 2: limitless weird that we can do two hours, and we
Speaker 2: can we can revive a form of comedy that has
Speaker 2: been lost with audio because it was it was like
Speaker 2: three stooges.
Speaker 4: I had another line in here, and it was basically
Speaker 4: just uh, this was more an experiment to see if
Speaker 4: they could do this, like incorporate these different elements, like
Speaker 4: what if we did this, What if we did this?
Speaker 4: And then they just made the whole film without asking
Speaker 4: if it was something they should actually do.
Speaker 3: This is like a classic hero's journey.
Speaker 4: I also I cut another line out.
Speaker 3: I had an arc.
Speaker 2: The parent company, the parent.
Speaker 4: Company for Bennegan's also owned Ponderosa Steakhouse, which explains where
Speaker 4: Pondero's a steakhouse, or as we called it when we
Speaker 4: used to go there for the lunch buffet.
Speaker 2: Sweet Lady p did you love Bennigans? I've been to one,
Speaker 2: not really I.
Speaker 4: Remember going to one. There's a South Park episode where
Speaker 4: Butters really wants to go to Bennigan's. But I was
Speaker 4: I was doing the thing about the dogs playing poker,
Speaker 4: and I was trying to come up with another, like
Speaker 4: few casual chains, and I saw Benigan's and I was like,
Speaker 4: what the hell happened to Bennigan's.
Speaker 2: Now we know?
Speaker 4: And now we know, and it does seem like there's
Speaker 4: a very committed couple in Texas who now own it.
Speaker 4: There's been some restructuring and they're committed to restoring the brand,
Speaker 4: which is cool because I think it's a real legacy
Speaker 4: brand in the world of American restaurants.
Speaker 1: I'd never heard of it.
Speaker 2: Told I don't know that I've ever been in the
Speaker 2: same city as one.
Speaker 4: Well, next time you go to the Middle East man,
Speaker 4: he'll be surrounded by him.
Speaker 2: My big takeaway this would be the perfect movie if
Speaker 2: you're a stoner college kid to watch on a Thursday night.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't wouldn't cancel weekend plans. I don't think this
Speaker 2: is uh, you know, something you dedicate a Friday or
Speaker 2: Saturday too. But if you're a stoner college kid, do
Speaker 2: what stoner college kids do and then put this on
Speaker 2: tonight and you'll have like a wonderful two hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else.
Speaker 4: That's all I got. Uh, thanks again to Moor. I
Speaker 4: feel like the segment ran too long and I played
Speaker 4: a role in that, so I apologize.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Spencer, Can I suggest a switch around.
Speaker 2: We're gonna skip ahead to one minute Fishing. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Our next segment is one minute Fishing.
Speaker 7: Do I feel lucky?
Speaker 4: We'll do you dunk, go ahead, make my cast.
Speaker 2: One minute Fishing is where we go live to someone
Speaker 2: who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,
Speaker 2: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars
Speaker 2: donation to a conservation group. This week, our anger is
Speaker 2: Christine Fisher, who you'll remember from last week's episode. She's
Speaker 2: on Chickamauga Lake in Tennessee and fishing for a donation
Speaker 2: to the first Wisconsin Chapter of Muskies, Inc. Christine, Welcome
Speaker 2: to the show.
Speaker 5: Hey guys, how's it going?
Speaker 1: Doing good?
Speaker 2: Last week Christine you joined us. You were in Oklahoma
Speaker 2: pre fishing for the twenty twenty five bass Master Kayak
Speaker 2: Series at Lake ten Killer. There were one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty seven anglers in the field. Tell folks how you
Speaker 2: did well, y'all.
Speaker 7: I don't know if it was not meted or what,
Speaker 7: but I ended up taking the big w my first
Speaker 7: best master win and it was the first win by
Speaker 7: a female and bess master of history.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, first place. Nice to congratulations Christine. First place
Speaker 2: among one hundred and thirty seven anglers. That's awesome. Now
Speaker 2: explain how a bass master.
Speaker 1: How many other females Christine were in this tournament?
Speaker 7: I think this one was one of our highest attended
Speaker 7: for females, and I think there were six of all.
Speaker 4: Out of one hundred and thirty seven.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: Explain how a bass Master Kayak Series tournament is set
Speaker 2: up and maybe different from other tournaments because the first
Speaker 2: thing that jumps out to me when I look at
Speaker 2: the results is that a fish's value is measured by
Speaker 2: length instead of weight.
Speaker 3: No lost connection issues with Christine.
Speaker 5: Be a length.
Speaker 7: We have certified measuring boards that we use malasaf flows,
Speaker 7: and then we have a unique identifier. It has to
Speaker 7: be in the picture for every single one of our fish,
Speaker 7: so they're GPS time damped. We have a first pass
Speaker 7: in the last cast, and it's a pretty it's a
Speaker 7: pretty techy little setup how they do it, and I
Speaker 7: love it because there are you know, this has been
Speaker 7: around for ten years, and early on there were a
Speaker 7: lot of people that tried to kind of keat the
Speaker 7: system by various ways, and it's dang near impossible.
Speaker 5: To do that now, is awesome.
Speaker 2: Give me an example of how people would try to
Speaker 2: cheat the system.
Speaker 7: So we had a guy, I mean two, So we
Speaker 7: had a guy about six seven years ago that was
Speaker 7: cutting boards in half and then kind of bulling him
Speaker 7: together so his fish looked like they were too more
Speaker 7: than they were.
Speaker 5: It was absolutely insane.
Speaker 7: There's been a couple of people that would take as
Speaker 7: sharpie and try to mark up fish to where they
Speaker 7: had different marks on them, but they are the same fish,
Speaker 7: and then make the.
Speaker 5: Tail, you know, not hit a quarter inch.
Speaker 7: But now the app has people look for the same
Speaker 7: fish because every pitch has very unique markings and lateral lines,
Speaker 7: so they can't get away with that. And then we
Speaker 7: had a guy in Texas actually that was cutting tails
Speaker 7: and kept the tail of a fish in his pocket
Speaker 7: and would lay it over this is a long time ago,
Speaker 7: would lay it over the fish and put his hand
Speaker 7: over it so you couldn't the tail looked like it
Speaker 7: was like this long. Uh.
Speaker 5: That was in a local tournament, so it was a little.
Speaker 7: Local ones aren't as as rigid is I would think
Speaker 7: the big national ones are, but we've we've learned a
Speaker 7: lot in the last decade.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Every time I think tournament anglers can't cheat,
Speaker 2: they figure out a new way to cheat. So I'm
Speaker 2: very amused to hear that, now how far our tournament
Speaker 2: kayak angler's traveling in a day.
Speaker 7: You know, honestly, this is going to surprise a lot
Speaker 7: of people because it's anywhere you know, you'll have people
Speaker 7: that will stick within a mile, but I've covered it
Speaker 7: up to fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 5: Miles in one day.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: I would say the average is probably five to seven.
Speaker 1: Man, what's your top speed if you just got to
Speaker 1: get from point A to point B? What's your top
Speaker 1: speed in that thing?
Speaker 5: About six and a half. Very uh, A lot slower
Speaker 5: than my ranger goes.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Now, Lake ten Killer offers small mouth and large mouth,
Speaker 2: and the upper portion lake is very different from the
Speaker 2: lower portion lake. So anglers have a lot of different
Speaker 2: ways that they can find success or failure and approaches.
Speaker 2: Fishery tell us about your winning strategy.
Speaker 7: Well, you know my strategy. I really wanted to fish
Speaker 7: for points. You know, we we have an Angler of
Speaker 7: the Year series, not if you for the championship. And
Speaker 7: I only get to fish three and I didn't get
Speaker 7: a drop event, so I was just going to go,
Speaker 7: you know. I went and caught some some giant small
Speaker 7: mouth down south, had a really good pattern, kind of
Speaker 7: cut a four and a half pounds small mouth, a
Speaker 7: couple three pounds small mouth, you know, a really good
Speaker 7: fish from LA. But they were fairly obvious offshore spots,
Speaker 7: and I knew with the big boat tournament and one
Speaker 7: hundred and thirty seven kayakanglers. I actually did not touch
Speaker 7: my what I would call my a my best water.
Speaker 7: One time during the tournament, I went to an area
Speaker 7: that I didn't I thought was going to get very overlooked,
Speaker 7: had some quality fish.
Speaker 5: I had to work a lot harder for him.
Speaker 7: And there were only four people at my ramp, so
Speaker 7: I thought I made a huge mistake that day I
Speaker 7: got there, But it ended up working out fishing less
Speaker 7: pressure of water, and uh it was cool because I
Speaker 7: got to lock a big swim.
Speaker 5: Bay in my hands basically bull days and did a
Speaker 5: little bit of.
Speaker 7: Late slipping on some steeper banks lead back to the
Speaker 7: creeks on the on the first day as well.
Speaker 5: But fishing that that overlooked water.
Speaker 2: Was ste That's great. I read you say that your
Speaker 2: two biggest fish of the tournament did not get in
Speaker 2: the boat. What happened there?
Speaker 7: Well, anytime, and if you got any listeners that are
Speaker 7: swim bait people, you know in your swim bay fish
Speaker 7: and sometimes they just don't make it to the boat.
Speaker 7: And I had on three casts my first cast down
Speaker 7: this little spot at the Alful Creek jumped off about
Speaker 7: a three and a half pound small mouth. Two casts later,
Speaker 7: I jumped off for a large mouth that would have
Speaker 7: been big bass to the tournament. It was just over
Speaker 7: five pounds, and the cameraman was on me, so he
Speaker 7: has a segment of photos from start to finish, and
Speaker 7: it was agonizing.
Speaker 5: I had to kind of relive that. You know, in
Speaker 5: those tournaments, you think you lose one of those big
Speaker 5: fish and you're just like, well, you know that that
Speaker 5: was the one that was the one.
Speaker 7: I knew that I needed to probably get this thing
Speaker 7: done so that, you know, it's really tough to stay
Speaker 7: in it mentally after jumping off to big fish, But
Speaker 7: you know what, when it's your time, it's your time,
Speaker 7: and I guess that was my time to get it done.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now before we do one minute fishing today, tell
Speaker 2: folks what happened after our one minute fishing segment ended
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 5: Well, I caught three white bass in a row.
Speaker 7: I swear it was y'all's music, Like that was a
Speaker 7: tense minute of my life, like if we all get
Speaker 7: inya or something just a little bit more too, because
Speaker 7: I was freaking out with that minute. I caught three
Speaker 7: fish in a row after that, so I was. I
Speaker 7: felt pretty discouraged.
Speaker 1: Damn. All right. Well, I have a question though, Spencer,
Speaker 1: before we go there, Christine, if you keep on winning
Speaker 1: and keep getting these big checks and you all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you have enough money to buy one of
Speaker 1: those big fancy boats, are you gonna switch from kayak
Speaker 1: angling to just regular angling out of a fancy bass
Speaker 1: boat or I'm asking what's the draw for kayak angling
Speaker 1: and do you would you switch over to regular boat fishing.
Speaker 7: Well, I actually did make this switch last year. I
Speaker 7: have a Ranger Alpha two away and I'm fishing in
Speaker 7: the most competitive boat rail and in the country. The
Speaker 7: bast Master opens, so I do do that, and I
Speaker 7: fished to this year, and I fish a couple women's
Speaker 7: only boat tournaments. I won my first one earlier this
Speaker 7: year just to kind of learn it, because honestly, the
Speaker 7: boat was pretty intimidating for me.
Speaker 5: But you know, I'll always be a kayak angler. I
Speaker 5: always will.
Speaker 7: I'm doing the boat thing to hopefully inspire more women
Speaker 7: to get into fishing out of the boat, But I'm
Speaker 7: a kayak angler because it just fosters such a deeper,
Speaker 7: more intimate experience on the water for right, next to
Speaker 7: the water.
Speaker 5: It's quiet.
Speaker 7: I can get back in these creeks and these things
Speaker 7: where the boats can't get and it's a lot more affordable.
Speaker 7: You know, when I was twenty one years old, I
Speaker 7: wasn't buying a sixty seventy thousand dollars boat. I couldn't
Speaker 7: afford it. I was working three jobs. So I got
Speaker 7: into kayak fishing because for me, you know, I just
Speaker 7: that was successible for me.
Speaker 2: All Right, tell us about the body of water you're
Speaker 2: on today, what you're fishing for, and how you're doing it.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 7: I started the morning at a little pond, and I
Speaker 7: told y'all I had bluegill on every single cast, but
Speaker 7: I had no service, so I ended up low up
Speaker 7: and falling down the lake Chipamaga. I do have some
Speaker 7: experience here, but it's the midsummer. It's pretty sandy. I
Speaker 7: have one little stretch of rip rap right now that
Speaker 7: I got here. In my first three casts in a row, again,
Speaker 7: I say you have a picture. I caught a decent
Speaker 7: small mouth. I caught a large mouth and on a
Speaker 7: spotted bass. I don't know if I'm gonna be able
Speaker 7: to do that on the cast of this, but I
Speaker 7: feel like it's my best bet and it's worth too
Speaker 7: in the time that I had. It's a little paddle
Speaker 7: tail right down that rip rap.
Speaker 5: And see what we can do.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you're one minute of fishing starts when
Speaker 2: you make that first cast. Christine is now I don't
Speaker 2: know if she's gonna stand up today or not. Christine,
Speaker 2: how how often are you standing when you're fishing out
Speaker 2: of your kayak?
Speaker 7: Probably ninety percent of the time. But I'm gonna sit
Speaker 7: just because y'all will I don't think you'll.
Speaker 5: Be able to see me.
Speaker 2: Okay, and tell us about the rip rap that you're
Speaker 2: tossing this swim bay at.
Speaker 7: Well, there's actually a little spring that comes in right
Speaker 7: here and it's it's way. Well, I was in the
Speaker 7: shade about a.
Speaker 4: Half an hour ago, so my movie review went wrong,
Speaker 4: went too long.
Speaker 5: That's really really big.
Speaker 7: Okay, we're gonna see I'm getting ready to make that
Speaker 7: first cast already.
Speaker 2: We're ready go for it.
Speaker 5: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: She's made her first cast. She just told us that
Speaker 2: she caught three already in this spot.
Speaker 5: Tell me when I'm that thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're ten seconds in.
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully with that big win under a belt. The
Speaker 4: music doesn't affect her as much as it did last week.
Speaker 2: Huh, it is dead calm out there today in Tennessee.
Speaker 2: You are thirty seconds down.
Speaker 1: She's furiously paddling and reeling, switching spots a little bit.
Speaker 2: She's backing up off the location. Twenty seconds to go.
Speaker 2: She just made her third cast. She seems like she
Speaker 2: only finds a little part of this area productive because
Speaker 2: she wheels a few times. Many brings it in ten seconds.
Speaker 2: She just made her final casts five seconds. Come on, Christine,
Speaker 2: Oh didn't happen today. That's it for your one minute.
Speaker 4: I have a feeling, though, we'll have you back on
Speaker 4: because the competitive spirit is clearly there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Christine, you take this more serious than any of
Speaker 2: our other anglers. Oh if only ever two minute fishing
Speaker 2: and twelve minutes large mouth just thirty seconds too late.
Speaker 2: Is that a large mouth or a spotted bass?
Speaker 5: Well, that's actually a little baby large mouth.
Speaker 2: Little baby large mouth.
Speaker 4: Oh you didn't have to fall very far.
Speaker 5: I'm not okay right now.
Speaker 1: One minute.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a lot of pressure. In the history
Speaker 2: of this segment, I think we've had three or four
Speaker 2: successful anglers. So it's tough and.
Speaker 4: You're welcome back anytime.
Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, before we go, any other sign of
Speaker 2: the mythical ten killer lake octopus. You didn't see anything
Speaker 2: strange on your sonar. Nothing tried grabbing your kayak while
Speaker 2: you were out there.
Speaker 5: Held on, I didn't hear that last little farm, was it?
Speaker 1: It was not important.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, Christine. We'll have you back
Speaker 2: on one minute fishing some other time.
Speaker 1: Bye, no, thank you.
Speaker 2: We have one segment left. I think we're just gonna
Speaker 2: punt on it though until our next episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit prep.
Speaker 2: It'll want to be saved for then. That means we're
Speaker 2: at the end of the show. We're gonna do some
Speaker 2: final fhill feedback. What do you do for Phil?
Speaker 3: The viewers are chopping at the bit to hear some
Speaker 3: of this, Phil, it's your favorite classic playing D and D.
Speaker 3: I think Sorcerers are a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 3: Dan the outdoor Man. Favorite TV drink. I think he
Speaker 3: meant tiki drink. I've said it before, it's the Navy grog.
Speaker 3: As classic favorite song is singing karaoke, The most fun song,
Speaker 3: most fun time I've had singing at karaoke was the
Speaker 3: Dixie Chicks now the Chicks Goodbye Earl. I thought that
Speaker 3: one does it well? It was really fun. Let's see
Speaker 3: what kind of preamp interface do you use it? Those
Speaker 3: s M seven bees We got a fat head, you know,
Speaker 3: providing a little extra extra boost and then it goes
Speaker 3: into an Alan and he c Q twelve T digital mixer.
Speaker 3: Question for Phil do you actually have to work to
Speaker 3: come up with ideas for segment drops or does the
Speaker 3: stuff just come to you naturally? I mean, I want
Speaker 3: to say it just comes to me naturally, but it's
Speaker 3: mostly because I'm lazy. I think of like the first
Speaker 3: idea I have, and it's usually like good enough. I
Speaker 3: think a couple of times I've made like the last call,
Speaker 3: like ooh, this song would be better, So I'll do that. Phil,
Speaker 3: you be the theater stage again soon this Christmas at
Speaker 3: the Ellen Theater and both in Montana. I'll be playing
Speaker 3: Bob Cratchit and a Christmas Carol, So come on down
Speaker 3: and uh, I'm I'm looking forward to because my son
Speaker 3: will also be in the show.
Speaker 1: So that'll be a little fun.
Speaker 2: Do we know what part he has?
Speaker 3: You do not yet know? I think he's too old
Speaker 3: for tiny tim and so that's he was really hoping
Speaker 3: for it, but I had to, you know, talk him down.
Speaker 3: I'll be there, Phil, favorite film of all time? Fill
Speaker 3: us in for those listeners. He spelled everything with the
Speaker 3: pH This is not the greatest film of all time,
Speaker 3: but it is my favorite film of all time, and
Speaker 3: that is the Tom Hanks directed nineteen ninety six movie
Speaker 3: That Thing You Do. I love that movie. I think
Speaker 3: it's near perfect, and even the stuff it isn't perfect,
Speaker 3: I love so much.
Speaker 2: Randa, what do you think of that movie?
Speaker 4: It's been a long while. I remember enjoying it when
Speaker 4: it came out. I was ten at the time. But
Speaker 4: original score? Am I right?
Speaker 1: Film?
Speaker 3: I think? Well, it's most known for its original song,
Speaker 3: which which is just like a perfect pop song written
Speaker 3: by one of the guys from Fountains of Wayne. Also,
Speaker 3: I mean just like it's fixed power power song.
Speaker 2: But yeah, what else you got? Phil? A couple more?
Speaker 3: I'll do one more, I'll do two more. Why is
Speaker 3: why Phil and Clay not made a collab? It's from Mittias.
Speaker 3: Clay and I have made multiple collabs. One of them
Speaker 3: is the Bear Grease podcast one which I no longer
Speaker 3: work on but but Clan and I it's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's mostly Clay's show, but I I I helped him
Speaker 3: out with kind of like the format and what to
Speaker 3: do with it. And our other collab was that we
Speaker 3: were in a band together. We opened the Meat Eater
Speaker 3: Life tom So if you if you, I don't think
Speaker 3: there's video, official video that exists of that performance.
Speaker 1: Did that have a name to be there?
Speaker 2: Your band?
Speaker 3: We didn't have a name. No, we should. We should
Speaker 3: retroactively give ourselves a name. Last one Phil ah the
Speaker 3: Red dead Red MGE from live stream. It is happening.
Speaker 3: It's just it's probably happening in the fall. We're kind
Speaker 3: of trying to lock down our goals for the Land
Speaker 3: Access Initiative for the year and make sure that when
Speaker 3: we do do some sort of fundraiser, you guys will
Speaker 3: all know exactly where your money's going and you'll feel
Speaker 3: good about donating to a good cause.
Speaker 2: Well done, very very entertained by the the phil questions,
Speaker 2: were it again sometime? Thank you Annie, Thank you Randall.
Speaker 2: See everyone back here next week, same time, same place.
Speaker 4: Thanks for m
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