Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the
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Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years
Speaker 1: a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,
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Speaker 2: Rain droves.
Speaker 1: We are here to talk about the most recent episode,
Speaker 1: episode ten.
Speaker 2: I believe yes, episode ten.
Speaker 1: It was called Meditation and Mediation I believe was the
Speaker 1: episode title of the latest episode of the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of Atlanta. Before we get started with our recap and
Speaker 1: diving into the conversation, I will say this, this was
Speaker 1: my favorite episode of the season. I love this episode
Speaker 1: and the reason why I love this episode is because
Speaker 1: every scene.
Speaker 2: Mattered.
Speaker 1: When I say mattered. It was nice to see Kelly
Speaker 1: with her girls. It was nice to see Angela in
Speaker 1: her investments properties and really speak about being in depth
Speaker 1: two million dollars in depth based on her investments.
Speaker 2: Like that honesty.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and obviously we get into the other conversations.
Speaker 1: But in terms of this episode. It was my favorite
Speaker 1: for those reasons. But I want to start off by
Speaker 1: talking about let's just get into it. It's the scene
Speaker 1: that sort of kicked off this episode, which was.
Speaker 2: Because I, you know, being told.
Speaker 1: That my facial expressions give a lot away and I am.
Speaker 2: Going to have all my shade glasses so that.
Speaker 3: You need a layer. You need a layer, right bro?
Speaker 2: Because of it? Okay fall weather gap, Okay, Look.
Speaker 1: Shamia met with Ralph ralph Is Dreu Sidoras, a strange
Speaker 1: husband who lives in the basement. They are going through divorce.
Speaker 1: On top of that, Porsche also walked in. And I'm
Speaker 1: being very honest when I say this, it was hard
Speaker 1: to watch that scene.
Speaker 2: From from a It was hard to watch it because
Speaker 2: it just didn't feel good. It didn't feel good. I'm
Speaker 2: just being I'm being I'm being very honest, and it
Speaker 2: didn't feel good to watch it because.
Speaker 1: One thing I've learned producing The Real Hospitals of Atlanta
Speaker 1: season six, and this is this is coming from an
Speaker 1: openly gay man who has never been married. But one
Speaker 1: thing that I've learned from season six and obviously later
Speaker 1: in life creating Lemon Marriage franchise is the sanctity of marriage,
Speaker 1: and how when it comes to married couples there is
Speaker 1: this sort of rule you have when you.
Speaker 2: Are interfacing with someone's wife or husband.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I brought up season six is
Speaker 1: because that was the season where Pedra and Kenya have
Speaker 1: this big beef about Kenya texting Apollo. Now, to Apollo's credit,
Speaker 1: years later on my podcast Thank You very Much, he
Speaker 1: admitted that he lied that Kenya wanted him. He admitted
Speaker 1: he lied right, So Kenya's been vindicated now when it
Speaker 1: comes to Kenya texting him regardless, and Kenya admit it
Speaker 1: on camera she was wrong for texting him in hindsight
Speaker 1: and she texted him thank you, thank you, babe. I
Speaker 1: think it was I learned through that season how you
Speaker 1: just can't on camera, on camera be seen with someone's
Speaker 1: And I remember us going to Mexico and Phedra told
Speaker 1: Kenya she wanted to slap was it the dog pits
Speaker 1: out of her mouth or something, Dustin or Claudia, because
Speaker 1: because in Mexico, her and Candy walked in and she
Speaker 1: saw King get Apollo talking.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2: I remember that, and I was I was there for that.
Speaker 1: So to watch that scene in this recent episode. It
Speaker 1: was hard for me to watch because of the history
Speaker 1: of it and on top of the fact that, let's
Speaker 1: have a real conversation. We know that Porscha is not
Speaker 1: happy with Drew based on Drew filming with.
Speaker 2: Dennis, so it was hard to watch. It was hard
Speaker 2: to watch, but we'll love to get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 4: Shame on Smiya and Porsta and I actually liked Samiyah.
Speaker 4: I do then playing our faces like they met up
Speaker 4: and oh, Porsia happened to stop by. No, y'all are
Speaker 4: best friends. Y'all ca calculated that, y'all set that up.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go film a scene with with with Ralph
Speaker 4: to pay back Drew. I will say this, The difference
Speaker 4: between the two groups is when Drew and Dennis are filming,
Speaker 4: we see them in a music and working capacity for
Speaker 4: the most part, right, Like, I ain't seen them trashing.
Speaker 4: They're not dragging Porsche. I've not seen that. I've not
Speaker 4: seen that. But the entire lunch with Shamiah, Porsche and
Speaker 4: Ralph was dragging Drew, So you can't be I think
Speaker 4: Porscha would have been better served if she never did
Speaker 4: this and then you know, she could stand on business
Speaker 4: about I really stand on the fact that I don't
Speaker 4: want you filming with my my ex. I think it's
Speaker 4: wrong because to then go and film with someone who
Speaker 4: a strange current, a strange husband. You know, you just
Speaker 4: canceled out your complaint. Actually you made yourself look worse.
Speaker 4: And I think she should she could have done without
Speaker 4: that scene. I think she did herself no favors in
Speaker 4: that scene. It was messy, it was mean, and it
Speaker 4: was like playing in our face, like, oh, I didn't know,
Speaker 4: and you know, I just felt like they set that
Speaker 4: up for paypack and let's just call it what it is,
Speaker 4: you know, Like and Ralph, I'm gonna speak to you, Ralph,
Speaker 4: Dennis isn't letting Drew talk. She's not talking greasy about
Speaker 4: Porsche to Dennis. That's not happening, right. But with Ralph,
Speaker 4: that is the mother of the kids. You may not
Speaker 4: like her anymore, love be in love with her anymore,
Speaker 4: with Drew anymore, but that is still the mother of
Speaker 4: your kids. And you're meeting up with basically her ops
Speaker 4: at this point, and you're allowing the shit talking about
Speaker 4: the mother of your kids. And I think that was
Speaker 4: real raggedy Ralph. I think that was whack and I
Speaker 4: felt I too, was like this, this doesn't feel good.
Speaker 4: It did not feel good to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what did not feel good about the
Speaker 5: scene was the dishonesty about the intention of it.
Speaker 3: Right for me, it ain't that deep.
Speaker 5: Porscha, you mad at Drew because she filmed with Dennis,
Speaker 5: so you fielm with Ralph to get her back full stop.
Speaker 5: It was that simple, right, I think that? And okay,
Speaker 5: you know Shemiah said that she was meeting up with
Speaker 5: Ralph to discuss his podcast or something or whatever he
Speaker 5: had coming up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his podcast Kings and Queen's Corps. I believe something
Speaker 1: along those lines.
Speaker 5: I wish him much success as a person who has
Speaker 5: been podcasting for over ten years. I won an NAACP
Speaker 5: Image Award for podcasting and not in the shit talking category.
Speaker 5: I wanted in best News and Information category, so as
Speaker 5: a legitimate voice in the podcasting space. They didn't discuss
Speaker 5: anything about producing a podcast at that table, and I
Speaker 5: think that that is the part that fellas lit the
Speaker 5: flat with the viewers. Also, Shemiah setting that up so
Speaker 5: that Porscha could come film with Ralph. You know, it
Speaker 5: doesn't help with the allegations that she is incessantly appearing
Speaker 5: in a supportive role or supportive capacity in her friendship
Speaker 5: with Porsche. That's why people say that shit, because you
Speaker 5: do things like allow her, at least in our view,
Speaker 5: to go unscathed with being disrespectful about your song to
Speaker 5: Shamiah about her song, and just not being what most
Speaker 5: people consider a good friend to be. But then Samiah
Speaker 5: eagerly stepped right into the mess and set up a
Speaker 5: dinner with Ralph and film with him. Porscha was in
Speaker 5: at that dinner table, moving Ralph's fingers, and you know,
Speaker 5: it was different things that she was doing to directly
Speaker 5: antagonize Drew. And I ain't mad about it, because if
Speaker 5: that's where they're at in their relationship, so be it.
Speaker 5: But just say that shit. It would have been so
Speaker 5: much better to see portion in her confessionals, like her
Speaker 5: ass was feeling with my baby daddy, I'm finna go
Speaker 5: film with Ralph.
Speaker 3: We're going to dinner.
Speaker 5: And then she sat down and her and Shamiah ordered
Speaker 5: all that food and them drinks and they laugh.
Speaker 3: Just stand in it. We all know what it was like.
Speaker 5: Just stand in it. That's where I was at with
Speaker 5: it and Ralph. Since we're speaking about Ralph, Ralph, think
Speaker 5: about sometimes you have to zoom on and look at
Speaker 5: the big picture. Ralph is on this show in a
Speaker 5: subordinate capacity. He's Drew's estranged husband. His only experience getting
Speaker 5: to the attention at the cameras from the Real Housewives
Speaker 5: of Atlanta and Bravo bring to people is it he
Speaker 5: is presented or appearing in some capacity connected to Drew.
Speaker 5: Right now, they ain't fucking with each other. He's in
Speaker 5: the basement, she's upstairs. The only chance he gets to
Speaker 5: talk about anything on camera is if he's talking about her.
Speaker 5: What better position as an opt than to link up
Speaker 5: with her other opts and do it on camera. My
Speaker 5: thing is just stand in it and say it. Y'all
Speaker 5: not meeting to discuss no damn podcasts, y'all mean up
Speaker 5: because all of y'all, including Samia, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: they really don't fuck with Drew like that, And so
Speaker 5: my thing is just say it.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: I have to agree with you, and you hit the
Speaker 2: nail on the head.
Speaker 1: I think if on the onslaught right, if if Shami
Speaker 1: and Porscha devised this scheme and had a very girlfriend moment,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like and would have been
Speaker 1: silly with it, like let's dress up as like private
Speaker 1: investigators wearing all black with our glasses on.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think if the to your point that, if the
Speaker 1: intention of the scene was pay back to the bitch,
Speaker 1: call me karma, I think we all would be like,
Speaker 1: oh my, y'all being petty. If this is Housewives, let's
Speaker 1: be petty. I actually agree with you. I think if
Speaker 1: it was made, I think if it was colored to
Speaker 1: be seen as on the nose, it is what it
Speaker 1: is you feel in my mom you know, I think
Speaker 1: we all would have been like I then go ahead.
Speaker 2: I actually agree with you with that, because to talk
Speaker 2: about I'll be to laugh.
Speaker 1: But to have wrapped, as Shamilla say, we're meeting about
Speaker 1: a podcast because Samia appeared on one episode of a podcast,
Speaker 1: I think it was insulting the intelligence of the audience.
Speaker 1: And if it was what we just said it was,
Speaker 1: I think they would have been more forgiveness.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was corny. That was corny, and there was
Speaker 4: I didn't see that one moment of magic between Shemiah
Speaker 4: and Ralph that would make me want to tune into
Speaker 4: a podcast with them. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I like Shmia's speaking voice. I want to hear more
Speaker 5: of it. I think she has one of the most
Speaker 5: beautiful speaking voices, and she can sing her ass off.
Speaker 2: She does.
Speaker 5: She doesn't sound like Drew, who can sing too, but
Speaker 5: they have distinctly different voices.
Speaker 4: Porsche, she she doesn't and I like and I do
Speaker 4: like her for the most part, but I don't like
Speaker 4: the way she's been moving the last two episodes. I
Speaker 4: think she I guess we gave her so much credit
Speaker 4: for being so much more like above this, you know,
Speaker 4: being the wife, being stable, being a very much a
Speaker 4: support system for Porsche throughout all the years, being actually wealthy,
Speaker 4: actually having the things, not having to rent the clothes
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. She has the things,
Speaker 4: like everything that that should have set her up to
Speaker 4: be a good housewife. But it didn't take very long
Speaker 4: for her to get put back in this box. And
Speaker 4: I'm sure it was frustrating for Shemiah to get this
Speaker 4: lapdog label. Nobody wants that label. But you're not helping
Speaker 4: yourself when I guess we all want like we're rooting
Speaker 4: for you, Shamia, like you know, like the Tyra Banks clip,
Speaker 4: we were rooting for you. We were all rooting for you.
Speaker 4: Like I think it would have made her look so
Speaker 4: dope and so powerful to still be a friend to Porsche,
Speaker 4: but to hold her accountable and say, hey, friend, if
Speaker 4: we're gonna do it, like y'all said, be intentional, make
Speaker 4: it a thing, be funny with it. But to play
Speaker 4: in our faces and be like I think Porsche said
Speaker 4: something like, oh, Shamia was meeting with him, and I
Speaker 4: was came by girl, girl, by go play with your mom,
Speaker 4: but don't play with us, because we're not stupid. And
Speaker 4: it's very obvious, like if me and my friend were
Speaker 4: going to do a scene, we would text each other
Speaker 4: what we're gonna do, and like, okay, you go first,
Speaker 4: and now pop up and act like I just came
Speaker 4: to meet you for drinks. We're not dumb. This is
Speaker 4: season sixteen. We've seen shenanigans before, and I think that
Speaker 4: was really why. And I really think the worst person
Speaker 4: in that scene was Ralph dropping tea about his wife
Speaker 4: messing with time allegedly, and then he lied by the
Speaker 4: way about him filing for divorce. Because if you go
Speaker 4: look up the divorce papers, guess who's label listen as
Speaker 4: the petitioner exactly, So guess who the what petitioner means,
Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen. Petitioner is the one who instigates the divorce.
Speaker 4: The respondent is the one who responds. So you said
Speaker 4: that you filed first, Ralph.
Speaker 5: So the day that that happened, there was a joke
Speaker 5: online about them racing to the courthouse to file first,
Speaker 5: and everybody remembers Drew getting there first. So I was
Speaker 5: kind of confused by him saying that as well in
Speaker 5: that scene because we're fans of this show. That was
Speaker 5: news directly related to what's going on with the show,
Speaker 5: and we remember that.
Speaker 1: So I was like, damn, Like Claudia a journalist, Okay,
Speaker 1: so the think's Claudia, call me b Arthur.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait where are these?
Speaker 4: How many you have got wardrobe dreams?
Speaker 5: He got that drawer glasses like Sanford and Son, remember
Speaker 5: Rial Fox. You soafing that drawer with all them glasses
Speaker 5: in it.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: I love a faith prop Okay.
Speaker 1: So, Claudia, apparently you have done your research, So do
Speaker 1: you know what time Drew filed first, do you have
Speaker 1: that the document's handy.
Speaker 4: I don't have the time, but I also have some
Speaker 4: more tea because I actually called Drew before we went
Speaker 4: on the air, That's why I was late getting it together.
Speaker 4: And I said, Drew, tell me what's good, Like, did
Speaker 4: you mess with Dennis? What's up with this whole Dennis piece?
Speaker 4: And she said no, And I asked Dennis to clear
Speaker 4: this up. She said, remember when Ralph said that Dennis
Speaker 4: gave he gave Dennis his blessing to work, right, she said,
Speaker 4: the actual text and the reason why Porte didn't actually
Speaker 4: show the real tax she just kind of was reading
Speaker 4: it you don't see it was because it actually said
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to fuck Drew. I'm trying to get
Speaker 4: the money. But Porscha read it out of context to
Speaker 4: make it seem like, nah, like I'm turning her down
Speaker 4: for sex. Nah, I'm just trying to get to the money.
Speaker 4: That's the truth. Said. She has screenshots of it, and
Speaker 4: we were on she was trying to, you know, show
Speaker 4: me on FaceTime. So maybe that comes up at the reunion,
Speaker 4: maybe that comes up in your interview tomorrow. I'm sorry
Speaker 4: I bought you to her. I'm sorry. Whenever that happens,
Speaker 4: I need you to ask her for this look at
Speaker 4: her and Porsche. But she told me that that's what
Speaker 4: the actual text was, not a half asseds mischaracterization of
Speaker 4: what was said. So that's what a liar does though, Okay,
Speaker 4: and that's been very effective on lots of reality shows
Speaker 4: throughout the years. What people will do is take ten
Speaker 4: to fifteen, twenty percent of the truth, even fifty percent
Speaker 4: of the truth, and we'll have part of a text,
Speaker 4: but if you read it out of context, it can
Speaker 4: mean anything. I need to see the entire conversation, and
Speaker 4: that's how you know who's really full of shit?
Speaker 5: Well, why she says she ain't never kissed the girl?
Speaker 5: And then who said she kissed the girl on the
Speaker 5: show too?
Speaker 4: What she probably did like about that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Bravo, it's good for right running at
Speaker 5: the beautiful bee footage. You know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 5: roll right to it every time. Yeah, I've kissed the girl,
Speaker 5: I've never kissed the girl, and we'd be like Drew
Speaker 5: right because I love her on this show. But it
Speaker 5: just gets the waters get a little murky when it
Speaker 5: comes to accuracy and honesty over there, that's all right, No.
Speaker 4: Ready to be out it and we have we respecially
Speaker 4: our gay brother. Maybe she wasn't ready to be out
Speaker 4: it as a you know, as the l you know.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, which we don't know if she's is
Speaker 5: or not. You know what I'm saying, We don't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do want to touch on that briefly too, because listen,
Speaker 1: we're not here to out anybody.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's and I don't.
Speaker 4: Think she's a lost I'm not calling her lesbian.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no no no no no no no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the comment that I would saying, no, no,
Speaker 2: not for you, Claudia.
Speaker 1: I was saying that based on what was aired and
Speaker 1: what Raph said. You know, watching Ralph in that scene,
Speaker 1: it's evident that he doesn't like Drew anymore, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: And and it was that I again.
Speaker 1: There, there's there's several reasons why that scene was hard
Speaker 1: to watch. Raps disdain for his wife, and it's evident
Speaker 1: that he just does not like her.
Speaker 2: Now, look, I don't know who who who Drew is
Speaker 2: at home?
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know who she is as a wife
Speaker 1: or mother. Obviously, Raph knows more about his current wife
Speaker 1: they're still.
Speaker 2: Married legally than we all do. But I think for me.
Speaker 1: It was it was hard to watch him mention that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I divorced her because she allegedly was with top right,
Speaker 1: who is Mimi Fausis X who is currently on Basketball.
Speaker 2: Wives as Minglee's girlfriend or a strange friend?
Speaker 4: And please look on Tie's opportunistic ass, okay, trying to
Speaker 4: go from reality show to reality show to just be
Speaker 4: in scenes with different people on different shows. And Ty,
Speaker 4: I don't care if you get mad about me saying this,
Speaker 4: because I already said it before, and I'm saying it
Speaker 4: with my whole chest. Just tall to me and you
Speaker 4: got muscles, but we ain't gonna be at the same parties.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you are going from different reality shows
Speaker 4: to be with different people, and I would be a
Speaker 4: little bit side on in that situation right there as well.
Speaker 4: So I'm sorry, Carlos, but I have strong feelings about that.
Speaker 4: I told me me about Tie the moment I first
Speaker 4: met her, I didn't have a good feeling about her,
Speaker 4: and I just think she's very opportunistic, like every girlfriend
Speaker 4: and man everybody you mess with is like on TV.
Speaker 4: Really okay, sorry, and I digress, so allegedly Drew now
Speaker 4: ming Lee, who else? Who else? Maybe that's three in
Speaker 4: like how many years now? If I was with three
Speaker 4: basketball players, y'all call me the biggest hole. Y'all do
Speaker 4: call me the biggest hole? And I had sections damn
Speaker 4: not in twenty twenty five. And okay, keep the same energy,
Speaker 4: that's all I'm saying. Opportunistic time, freaky time, shoot and
Speaker 4: shot at the basket and at.
Speaker 2: The so Claudia, Uh, I was wing.
Speaker 3: Claudia is best friends with MEMI. Man, that's how she feels.
Speaker 3: How she feels dust. I'll just listen.
Speaker 5: This is that's women ship. I ain't got nothing to
Speaker 5: do with that. That's women ship. I'm staying completely out
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 3: Bro. You already know.
Speaker 4: They said Claudia might have to ask brit for her
Speaker 4: pistols so she don't get me basketball?
Speaker 2: Y'all are we we want we involving that? So look, Hi,
Speaker 2: I wanted to break this up. Uh Claudia spit fire
Speaker 2: during receipts. Maybe you are well.
Speaker 1: I I really am intrigued. When they flashed back to
Speaker 1: Drew saying wow. Okay, so Ralph says, sorry, guys, have
Speaker 1: a scatter bread. Claudia just took me to a whole
Speaker 1: another world and I'm in Pluto with Gail King and
Speaker 1: I need to get back down on Earth.
Speaker 4: That that was a scamming the line they did not.
Speaker 1: Send the spaceship. Okay, okay, I'm back on Earth. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Gail King and Katy Perry. All right, look, okay, I'm back.
Speaker 1: So when Ralph intimated that he filed for divorce because
Speaker 1: Drew was allegedly messing with Tie, they did flash back
Speaker 1: to a scene of Drew saying in the middle of
Speaker 1: a sentence, because you know, I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I give all the contexts in the middle of the sentence,
Speaker 1: since Drew does say she was there for me.
Speaker 2: When I needed her.
Speaker 1: Along those lines, it did appear that it could have
Speaker 1: been more than friends, or it could have been taken
Speaker 1: out a context that we didn't see the entire scene.
Speaker 2: So when you.
Speaker 1: Guys did see that, did y'all take that as confirmation
Speaker 1: or not?
Speaker 3: One hundred percent?
Speaker 5: That confirmation I didn't even need in my From my perspective,
Speaker 5: I felt like they had a relationship that was more
Speaker 5: than Platonic I did you, and it's no secret she
Speaker 5: changed the subject every time they talked about it. In
Speaker 5: the season fifteen reunion, when Drew sang on stage and
Speaker 5: Ralph came out and he said, first chair at the
Speaker 5: reunion they were they talked about it, Drew changed the subject.
Speaker 5: Candy spoke as plainly as she could about what she
Speaker 5: knew about it. It was what it was, you know,
Speaker 5: And Drew has been adamant about the fact that she,
Speaker 5: you know, has not had that sort of relationship with
Speaker 5: a woman. The facts and shit we see appears to
Speaker 5: present otherwise whatever. Chara even said that, remember when Chari
Speaker 5: at that reunion season fifteen, she said somebody had dropped
Speaker 5: off some copies of messages to the chateau.
Speaker 3: And the message.
Speaker 5: They passed the messages around at the reunion and read them,
Speaker 5: and I will never forget Candy and Kenya were looking
Speaker 5: at the damn the message and Kenya was like, oh oh,
Speaker 5: and Candy was like, do we be texting like that?
Speaker 5: Do I send you stuff like that? So everybody felt
Speaker 5: that way. Ralph came on and said that, like Claudia
Speaker 5: has made a great point earlier, maybe Drew's not ready
Speaker 5: to talk about that part yet. But it would read
Speaker 5: better to the audience if she would say that as
Speaker 5: opposed to know I didn't or no, I'm not, just
Speaker 5: say I don't want to talk about it right now,
Speaker 5: like Kyle Richard's be saying, they threatened, They asked Kyle
Speaker 5: all the time. You know what I'm saying, what's up
Speaker 5: with you in Morgan you guys fucking around or whatever?
Speaker 3: And she never says no.
Speaker 5: She never says slides for years, slide, two years, now, slide.
Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation.
Speaker 1: I love Kyle Richards, baby, but let's clock it.
Speaker 5: So that's what it is. But that's also the difference.
Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying, That's the difference. Drew says, No,
Speaker 5: Kyle just says when I'm ready, not right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Obviously I'm not in the community. I'm in no community
Speaker 4: right But when people have talked to me and educating
Speaker 4: me about it, about outing people and all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff, like I've been told, not scolded, but told like, yo,
Speaker 4: you leave that alone. Like if someone's not ready to
Speaker 4: say whatever, you leave it alone. And I just kind
Speaker 4: of feel like, do we need to be mindful and
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I mean, I never seen that scene
Speaker 4: with Drew talking about Ty before. You know, I've heard
Speaker 4: my things that I've heard as well, but I never
Speaker 4: saw that. So I was never gonna say anything about
Speaker 4: it until I saw that scene because to me, that
Speaker 4: scene confirmed it. Ye that she set it on camera.
Speaker 4: So if she said it on camera, that's something that
Speaker 4: she's okay with us knowing. Right, But like, I just
Speaker 4: feel like, is there a different set of standards when
Speaker 4: it's a girl, Like, is it like we are we
Speaker 4: being extra hard on her because it's a woman.
Speaker 5: Oh No, it's the opposite. It's the polar opposite. She
Speaker 5: can go ahead. She's married to a man. People perceive
Speaker 5: her as a heterosexual woman to the world. That's why
Speaker 5: there's so much scuttle but and conversation around her alleged
Speaker 5: bisexual tryst with Tie and whoever else she may have
Speaker 5: been involved with. Right, But she can go on from
Speaker 5: that live a very happy life with a man in
Speaker 5: a relationship.
Speaker 3: We see it replicated time and time again.
Speaker 5: If a man, however, admitted to having some sort of
Speaker 5: sexual experience with another man is forever he's got the
Speaker 5: scarlet letter for the rest of his life, so it's
Speaker 5: actually it's the opposite.
Speaker 4: No, No, I agree what you're saying with that part. Sure,
Speaker 4: one thousand percent. Once a man, I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: I definitely work with people that are definitely never been
Speaker 4: comfortable with that. I get it. I mean as far
Speaker 4: as it's like forcing her to admit it, forcing her
Speaker 4: to admit it, like, no, you need.
Speaker 2: You mean in the constructs of reality television.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you need to say. I totally agree with
Speaker 4: what you're saying. Doesn't about when a man admits to that,
Speaker 4: he's he has a scarlet letter for the rest of
Speaker 4: his life. And there's a lot of women I will
Speaker 4: never date a guy that's my set. I get all that.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, as far as like really being pressed
Speaker 4: to admit it, we want you to tell us and
Speaker 4: admit it on television in this reality show. Do you think,
Speaker 4: like as I hear a lot of people talking about
Speaker 4: this with this.
Speaker 2: Scandal, No, And I'll say this to you.
Speaker 1: Dothin did a very good point of explaining the juxtaposition
Speaker 1: between Kyle Richards and what is being said about Drew
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: In Drew's defense. In Drew's big defense.
Speaker 1: We have not seen Drew and Tie photograph together hanging
Speaker 1: out backstage at ties w A. You know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: like Kyle and Morgan have been seen together in very
Speaker 1: intimate saties and let's have a real conversation here. Kyle
Speaker 1: did a music video with Morgan where they simulated kissing
Speaker 1: and were this closed and never touching lips.
Speaker 2: So in Drew's defense, that wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the difference, Claudia, as as you
Speaker 1: asked a really good question. The reason why we have
Speaker 1: the audience is like, Kyle, if you are lesbian, that
Speaker 1: is your choice, but you're gonna stop playing our face.
Speaker 4: She's taunting, toying with me with it appears.
Speaker 1: That way the music video assimulating it.
Speaker 2: It was sort of like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: And y'all got matching tattoos together, Claudia, they're filming.
Speaker 2: They were filming together.
Speaker 1: They talked about how they first met, and I think
Speaker 1: that's the reason why we wanted more. I think the
Speaker 1: thing with Drew, and that's why I was like, Ralph,
Speaker 1: if that is your truth you guys on a reality show,
Speaker 1: that's fine, But I think when you are exposing anyone's sexuality,
Speaker 1: whether it's a woman or a man or they it
Speaker 1: is dangerous territory because that is that on persis comfortability
Speaker 1: to be able to do it. And I'm not going
Speaker 1: to go dark here, but a lot of bad things
Speaker 1: can happen to a person who's not ready to say that,
Speaker 1: regardless of what ch'all may talked about, because he said
Speaker 1: out of his own mouth, she said it to me,
Speaker 1: Ralph bro it's a difference that she said it to
Speaker 1: you and not the world, so bors Moore did.
Speaker 4: Weren't they having problems before those allegations about him disappearing
Speaker 4: or was it Flora like all that time? And he's
Speaker 4: trying to like it was that's what made them most
Speaker 4: men and he seems like the guy to be like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm with this, let me jump in, you know, if
Speaker 4: that's the case, But like, wasn't he missing and doing
Speaker 4: a lot of fun shit before that?
Speaker 5: They came onto the show with very obvious issues in
Speaker 5: their marriage that they were vulnerable enough and brave enough
Speaker 5: to share with us, right, So that was not the
Speaker 5: straw that broke the Camels back from the viewers perspective,
Speaker 5: but Ralph definitely said that that was the reason why
Speaker 5: he filed, which was the very direct question that Shmia
Speaker 5: asked him. So for him, maybe that was it, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I also think that Ralph, it
Speaker 5: just it felt so it just did not land well
Speaker 5: with the viewers. And I think it was because Ralph
Speaker 5: was obviously motivated by you know, a he was coming
Speaker 5: from a place of it being like, this is my
Speaker 5: time to say what I got to say because Drew's
Speaker 5: not let me film. I don't have anything else any
Speaker 5: other reason the film. They invited me here, I'm about
Speaker 5: to say what I have to say. And that's why
Speaker 5: his guns were really blazing during that conversation. And it's
Speaker 5: a sad way to go out to me, but that's
Speaker 5: what I believe that I saw.
Speaker 4: It's one thing where you don't have kids, like together,
Speaker 4: like you know, portion of time and right or whatever. Right,
Speaker 4: it's one thing we don't have kids. But then when
Speaker 4: you have kids and like you're on TV and a
Speaker 4: medium that's going to live forever, right, Honestly, kids can
Speaker 4: act as social media and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: And see your dad saying that's about her mom. Their
Speaker 4: mom where and I'm sure the mom has not had
Speaker 4: a chance to have that kind of conversation with those babies,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I just think that
Speaker 4: was just kind of stink like that. Ralph, I like,
Speaker 4: you know, you're you're playing nasty now you're you're there's
Speaker 4: other ways to handle this, I.
Speaker 2: Think, Yeah, No, her people hurt others and that's what
Speaker 2: I got from it.
Speaker 1: Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with
Speaker 1: the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
Speaker 1: the show. I want to transition into Angela Oakley. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Alay has several investments investment properties, excuse me, and
Speaker 1: one of them, she invited Portia to to play tennis
Speaker 1: because she said that because Portia made that comment about,
Speaker 1: you know, the husband situation, she didn't feel she didn't
Speaker 1: want her to come to her house, right, which to me,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's funny because I was right, and
Speaker 1: and that to.
Speaker 2: Me is like fun shade. So I really thought that
Speaker 2: was hilarious.
Speaker 1: So they're playing tennis and in this moment, Angela decides
Speaker 1: to sit Porsia down and really talk to her about
Speaker 1: her friend Shamia. Angela decided to reveal that she drew
Speaker 1: and Shamia had a conversation where Shamia mentioned some of
Speaker 1: the issues that she does have with Porsia. In this conversation,
Speaker 1: Angela told Porsche that Shamia is mad at you for
Speaker 1: not attending her wedding, and not only that that you
Speaker 1: supposedly did not want her to join the show The
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta, which by the way, I loved
Speaker 1: it with shows break the fourth wall because we as
Speaker 1: the audience, we were stabbing enough to know give us
Speaker 1: all the information that we're able to to really understand
Speaker 1: the root of it. Porscha breaks down in tears, cover
Speaker 1: her face with a fan, and decides to leave Dustin
Speaker 1: and Claudia.
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on that entire exchange.
Speaker 3: First of all, great scene.
Speaker 5: Angela was holding court literally on that tennis court running
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 3: Shout out to my friend Carrie.
Speaker 5: It's Carrie on Twitter who said that our h o
Speaker 5: A and it sends for Real Housewives Oakley Comma Angela,
Speaker 5: okay because this is her season.
Speaker 2: Uh Carrie, Yes, I love him. Hi Carrie, I'll follow him.
Speaker 2: He's amazing.
Speaker 3: We fuck with you, Carrie.
Speaker 5: But that that that was just an example. Angela masterfully right,
Speaker 5: got the most emotion we've seen out of Porsche all season.
Speaker 5: Angela pulled it out of on that tennis court, putting
Speaker 5: that fan in front of her face like that and
Speaker 5: not being able to continue in the scene and it
Speaker 5: reaching an emotional place that broke that barrier, that shield
Speaker 5: that Porscha's been filming with all season, which is creating
Speaker 5: the disconnect between her and her fans. We want to
Speaker 5: know your emotions. We want to know how you feel
Speaker 5: about Simon giving you hell. We want to know you
Speaker 5: know what the real deal on you and Shemia's relationship
Speaker 5: is because we've seen it for many, many years. Remember,
Speaker 5: Shemia has been appearing on this show as a friend
Speaker 5: of since season five, so she's not a new character
Speaker 5: the court. To the core viewership of this show. We
Speaker 5: know the history. We remember seeing Faedro do like this,
Speaker 5: We remember seeing Faedro do that, saying that Shemiah alluding
Speaker 5: to her, alleging that Shemiah was having a sexual relationship
Speaker 5: with Candy and Todd and it wasn't true. We remember
Speaker 5: all of those things, so we know the breaks that
Speaker 5: have taken place in the friendship of Porsche and Shemiah,
Speaker 5: and we.
Speaker 3: Want to see it.
Speaker 5: Another point, I want to make Angela might have first
Speaker 5: share at that reunion. Carlos, You've talked about the importance
Speaker 5: of that. She's been the focus. She's instrumental to several
Speaker 5: of the stories that are taking place this season. Okay,
Speaker 5: and based on the midseason trailer, she got some more
Speaker 5: big ass moments to come. Angela might take that first
Speaker 5: season first chair spot at the reunion opposite Porscha, So
Speaker 5: it'll be good to see.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: I didn't see tears. I saw a fan in front
Speaker 4: of a face, and I've been around lots of girls
Speaker 4: with fake tears, and until I see water streaming down
Speaker 4: your face, I'm not buying it. I felt like she
Speaker 4: knew at that point, I'm looking really bad right now
Speaker 4: and I'm going to cover my face and I just
Speaker 4: can't continue. She thinks I think she's my laptop girl.
Speaker 4: Bye girl, by listen. I know bad acting when I
Speaker 4: see it because I do it all the time on
Speaker 4: to be so I'm not buying one went bar Away
Speaker 4: shot the whole family. I know bad acting. Portray girl,
Speaker 4: I'll see you. We see each at that. No no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no no no. Angela was very very brilliant for not
Speaker 4: letting Porsche come to her house after what Porsche did
Speaker 4: with Fallin at Fallon in Simon's house. So I thought
Speaker 4: that was super dope and it was also like a
Speaker 4: callback to that season when that happened. You can't show
Speaker 4: me that that being called, being deemed that you feeling
Speaker 4: like your friend thinks that she's your lapdog would make
Speaker 4: you that upset. And then in the next scene at
Speaker 4: the Panther by Porsche thing, you were so cold to
Speaker 4: your friend. It's it's the mathe math, and I'm not
Speaker 4: buying it, and I'm not quick to just give passes
Speaker 4: on that. I'm sorry I called BS when I see BS,
Speaker 4: and I agree with you. Angela just the way she's
Speaker 4: moving like she goes right to the edge, but then
Speaker 4: but not enough where she's being messy or inappropriate. She
Speaker 4: holds the girls accountable and she makes them explain and
Speaker 4: she makes some answer and then she tells the truth.
Speaker 4: I do feel like Shemia did need a push. I
Speaker 4: do think that the problem with Shemia and Porsche's friendship
Speaker 4: dynamic is an balance of power. I think that Shemia's
Speaker 4: esteem self esteem is not low, but lower than Porscha's, right,
Speaker 4: so she probably feels like Porscha's like the big dog
Speaker 4: and she's like, you know, she's in her shadow a
Speaker 4: little bit. Whether no matter how many times we tell
Speaker 4: Shemia how beautiful she is, how dope she is, she
Speaker 4: gotta going on, I think internally she feels less than
Speaker 4: and I think Porsha plays a hand in that by
Speaker 4: the way she dismisses Smia's feelings. It seems, you know,
Speaker 4: you can see that there's an imbalance of power there,
Speaker 4: that it feels like one's here and one's there, when
Speaker 4: really they're probably more like this.
Speaker 5: You know, it's so funny because so many people, so
Speaker 5: many of us right have that takeaway from watching them
Speaker 5: on the show. But the minute you just take a
Speaker 5: step into like their social media accounts or any glimpse
Speaker 5: into the real lives that these ladies lead, Shemiah is
Speaker 5: by she is in no way a subordinate to Porscha
Speaker 5: in real life. I think that we are as viewers,
Speaker 5: just met Porscha first, and we're quite literally introduced to
Speaker 5: Shamiah as Porsha's friend.
Speaker 3: But now that they have even footing on the show.
Speaker 5: I think it is a bit of a culture shock
Speaker 5: for Porsha I think there's some resentment and jealousy there
Speaker 5: and just some things that she's gonna have to face,
Speaker 5: truly identify and accept and work through. Because the way
Speaker 5: she did Shamiah when she was previewing her single at
Speaker 5: the bank at that Vauda Angela's dinner, in addition to
Speaker 5: a myriad of other instances where we felt like Porscha
Speaker 5: was not the best friend to Shamiyah, it's a reckoning time.
Speaker 5: So we're going to see now, We're going to see
Speaker 5: people like Angela Oakley, people like Kelly Farrell. They are
Speaker 5: having conversations with Samiyah that are forcing her to say
Speaker 5: some shit out loud that she hasn't said out loud before.
Speaker 5: And if Porscha reacts to that, it's gonna tell immediately
Speaker 5: who she's always been in that friendship. You'll be able
Speaker 5: to tell immediately by her reaction.
Speaker 4: So I do like about this season that there are
Speaker 4: women that I don't think that Kelly and Angela are
Speaker 4: actually coming from a mean place. I think in past
Speaker 4: seasons you may have seen people carrying bones back to
Speaker 4: get a scene to be messy. It does feel like
Speaker 4: they're actually trying to give to me a like real
Speaker 4: girl kind of girl, the girl women and women kind
Speaker 4: of advice, like girl, like, you know, say something, speak
Speaker 4: up for yourself and not it doesn't feel like mean spirited.
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like they're just trying to get a scene.
Speaker 4: So I do like that about this season. And I
Speaker 4: know people like to say I'm a POORTI hated listen.
Speaker 4: I like holding people accountable. I'm not saying anything different
Speaker 4: than than Angela Oakley, Okay, but she's just saying it
Speaker 4: better and smoother and cuter, you know, and with less
Speaker 4: cuss words. But she's like, I agree with how she's moving,
Speaker 4: She's seeing things, She's coming to a new friend group
Speaker 4: and saying, wait, hold on, this don't seem right. This
Speaker 4: ain't sitting right with me. And I think there's nothing
Speaker 4: wrong with calling that out. You can call people out
Speaker 4: and that does not mean you're being a hater. Because
Speaker 4: if someone is not evolving from their past bad behavior
Speaker 4: and still moving in the same way and not really learning,
Speaker 4: then until they stop them, we gonna stop. Can't stop.
Speaker 4: I won't stop. I'm just saying we're just you know,
Speaker 4: we're calling it out. And I would like to see
Speaker 4: like her like evolved Porscha. I mean, I think I've
Speaker 4: said it before, y'all. I think she's adorable. She has
Speaker 4: a body of tea, she's funny, and when she's in
Speaker 4: her like fun bag and not being a mean girl,
Speaker 4: Porsche is a fun time. But all this stuff that
Speaker 4: she's doing that she got when she kind of got bigger,
Speaker 4: is making her less appealing. The thing that we liked
Speaker 4: about it where she was like kind of like that dinghy,
Speaker 4: kind of naive, kind of came off kind of I
Speaker 4: don't know any better her oh two hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: five days in a year. We laughed with her like
Speaker 4: we laughed at her, but we also laughed with her too,
Speaker 4: and it made her more charming. This mean girl thing
Speaker 4: does not work for her. It's not cute. It's not cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to because one thing about our
Speaker 1: conversation that's very different than other people who recap the
Speaker 1: shows is we do sort of go deeper when it
Speaker 1: comes to the nature of some of this behavior. Somebody
Speaker 1: in the comment said something that I want to I
Speaker 1: want to address because I with them, Shamia, and.
Speaker 2: It's also something you brought on to Claudia.
Speaker 1: There's a power dynamic let's be rid, let's have a conversation.
Speaker 2: There is a power dynamic in Shamia.
Speaker 1: And portious friendship, just like there was a power dynamic
Speaker 1: in Nini and Cynthia's friendship. Yeah, and and Claudia, it
Speaker 1: doesn't you two clocked it, because I didn't think about
Speaker 1: that until tonight, until you two said it.
Speaker 2: Angela and Kelly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they made sure to bring out shamia in securities
Speaker 1: to the forefront because they.
Speaker 2: Were moving story along.
Speaker 1: And they also want to in a weird way, and guys,
Speaker 1: stay with me on this. In a weird way, Angela
Speaker 1: and Kelly were trying to empower Samia to stand up
Speaker 1: for herself and and and and I thought it was
Speaker 1: something so interesting to watch because I remember producing Atlanta
Speaker 1: Housewives and Claudia, you were their season seven. All of
Speaker 1: the girls wanted Cynthia to wake up and and this
Speaker 1: is their.
Speaker 2: Words, not mine, right, Claudia. A lot of those girls
Speaker 2: were like.
Speaker 1: Cynthia, Nini called your husband a bitch. It looks like
Speaker 1: your Nini's lap dog. Are you afraid of Niini? It
Speaker 1: was something that Cynthia had to deal with and the
Speaker 1: beauty of Cynthia. Years later, she admitted this on my podcast,
Speaker 1: so listen to that. She said, because I came on
Speaker 1: the show with Niini, I felt indebted to her. She
Speaker 1: was my friend and and I thought I was just
Speaker 1: being a genuine friend by like, this woman is my
Speaker 1: friend on the show, so I'm a ride for her.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't until she got out of the cloud of.
Speaker 1: The show that she was able to sort of see
Speaker 1: the dynamic shifting. I think for Shamiah and Portia's friendship,
Speaker 1: and I want all three of us to be real,
Speaker 1: especially Claudia, not that you're not real, but you have
Speaker 1: a lot of female friends, and I want to hear
Speaker 1: a lot from you.
Speaker 2: I know that in some friendships there are power dynamics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in friendships there are queen bees, let's be real,
Speaker 1: And especially in female friendships, there are queen bees. And
Speaker 1: when I say queen bees, what I mean by that
Speaker 1: is every friend group has one person who is sort
Speaker 1: of like the leader, right, and then everyone else falls
Speaker 1: in line. Not that they're submissive or weak, it's just
Speaker 1: it's the dynamic of their friendship. That I have a
Speaker 1: friend group where that's the case in my friend group.
Speaker 1: Years later, I've been in all types of friend groups,
Speaker 1: my current friend group, it is that way. And one
Speaker 1: of my friends recently said to me, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was so funny. We've been friends for like fifteen
Speaker 1: years and he said the sem a three weeks ago.
Speaker 1: He said, Bitch, I want you to know I have
Speaker 1: no problems being Carlos Kings plus one.
Speaker 2: Baby, I'm here for it. I want all the perks
Speaker 2: that comes along.
Speaker 1: With being your friend. Bitch, I want you to know
Speaker 1: I am jealous of you. I don't want your life,
Speaker 1: but baby, I want the perks. And we got a
Speaker 1: good laugh at it because he is so confident in
Speaker 1: his own looks, in his own career.
Speaker 2: He's not in the in the industry.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting because it showed that
Speaker 1: we could talk about the elephant in the room and
Speaker 1: not be somebody that that's not able to address it.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is this, and let's be real,
Speaker 1: it is challenging, and Claudia, I want to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this. Porscha is the star of her friend group, right,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that Smiah is less of a star.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And because Porscha and Shamiah grew up together, one person
Speaker 1: career accelerated to the high heavens and another person didn't as.
Speaker 2: Big as Portia's.
Speaker 1: And I think what Shamia is craving for, and I
Speaker 1: will love to ask her this, but I think what
Speaker 1: Shamia's craving for is some acknowledgement of I am now
Speaker 1: here and I want us to be together in this
Speaker 1: And I think I think she probably feels afraid to
Speaker 1: have that conversation because she's afraid of the response. So,
Speaker 1: Claudia and your female friendships, would you say that's the
Speaker 1: case in terms of like this subtle hierarchy that is
Speaker 1: left unsaid.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's true, But I feel like, you know, when
Speaker 4: in my friend groups, I will say I'm in that position,
Speaker 4: and that's not in a cocky way. A lot of
Speaker 4: them didn't know each other until I introduced them. So
Speaker 4: like my birthday trip, there was twelve of us and
Speaker 4: they all made toast to me, right, and they all
Speaker 4: the one thing they all said was you brought us
Speaker 4: all together. Does that mean I'm the most successful of
Speaker 4: the group. Absolutely not. Tracey Evans was there any Alanza's there,
Speaker 4: she's on SWAT, she's you know these that countless My
Speaker 4: friend's chancey runs to businesses. They are That doesn't mean
Speaker 4: I'm better than them, richer than them, more beautiful than them.
Speaker 4: It does not mean that in a I brought them
Speaker 4: all together so they was like some I have some
Speaker 4: history with all of them, and I'm usually the initiator
Speaker 4: of hey, let's all go to a rube, Well let's
Speaker 4: all do this. But there's two types of women, right.
Speaker 4: There's some that love being in the Beyonce role, and
Speaker 4: they they like they kind of can look down. Not
Speaker 4: that Beyonce does that, but I'm saying the obvious star, right,
Speaker 4: and then they're they're they're not conscious of it. They
Speaker 4: don't even realize like they're being rude or whatever. I
Speaker 4: feel like, because I feel like I'm in that role
Speaker 4: with my friends, I go extra out of my way
Speaker 4: to big up my friends extra to make it feel
Speaker 4: like I know, I wanted to feel like it's here,
Speaker 4: and then it's here. If anything, it's here, and it's
Speaker 4: here like damn, it are the same. The only thing
Speaker 4: I have not even over them, is I initiate us
Speaker 4: getting together. But I think that some women you learn
Speaker 4: a lot from, You learn a lot about a person
Speaker 4: by who they surround themselves with. A confident woman will
Speaker 4: surround ourselves with other women, more beautiful, more successful, and
Speaker 4: then get more attention than them and be totally fine,
Speaker 4: like that's my dog right there, we here together. Insecure
Speaker 4: women will want to be the star of their group
Speaker 4: and surround themselves with women they know they don't get
Speaker 4: as much attention, don't have it as pope as them,
Speaker 4: And that tells you all you need to know about
Speaker 4: that friend circle and how they probably treat each other,
Speaker 4: and how one's probably gonna feel a little less than
Speaker 4: I think that. I think it's nothing more powerful than
Speaker 4: a group of women that are very closely yoked, equally yoked,
Speaker 4: or even different kinds of yo hi yokes us, and
Speaker 4: they all exist in harmony. I just think that with
Speaker 4: I think that I'm not saying Poorsia purposely does that
Speaker 4: touch me in but you can tell that one feels
Speaker 4: more above and one feels my below.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with Claudia on this one. I think there's
Speaker 5: definitely a way to responsibly be a leader in a
Speaker 5: friendship circle or a leader in a friendship group if
Speaker 5: you're a person who has more acts. First of all,
Speaker 5: we can start with personality, right. Some people just have
Speaker 5: larger personalities they're willing to go first and speak up
Speaker 5: first and do things first, and so they naturally assume
Speaker 5: that leadership role. I got a huge motherfucking personality, and
Speaker 5: I don't mind taking the lead in my friendship circles
Speaker 5: that by no means indicates me looking at them less
Speaker 5: than or anything like that. First of all, I love
Speaker 5: the fuck out of all of my friends, and I
Speaker 5: ride for mine. All my friends know that. It's no secret,
Speaker 5: no question. Number two, I celebrate my friends just because
Speaker 5: I have a certain type of job or I have
Speaker 5: certain access to different environments and different shit. They have
Speaker 5: incredible professional lives as well, and they have big personalities
Speaker 5: as well, and we celebrate each other. We lift each
Speaker 5: other up. There's a way to be the responsible leader,
Speaker 5: and there's a way to be the friend of a
Speaker 5: leader as well. That's responsible. That does not include jealousy
Speaker 5: or ego or stupid ass issues that will arise from
Speaker 5: ego and jealousy. There's no place for that in friendship. So,
Speaker 5: if you're a leader, if you're a person who does
Speaker 5: assume their role for whatever reason, and you give a
Speaker 5: fuck about your friends, you care about their emotions and
Speaker 5: how they're made to feel, you're always aware of that,
Speaker 5: and you're not gonna kiss their ass or go do
Speaker 5: things in a way that makes them feel even more different.
Speaker 5: But you're gonna make sure that they're celebrated. You're gonna
Speaker 5: make sure that you do the things that come naturally anyway.
Speaker 5: So to me, it boils down to the authenticity of
Speaker 5: the friendship. If you really riding and you're prime example,
Speaker 5: Carlos and Claudia, I've known both of y'all for years.
Speaker 5: You have both worked in entertainment for years prior to
Speaker 5: the little shit.
Speaker 3: That the things that I do.
Speaker 5: Now, you know what I'm saying, I've never felt like
Speaker 5: little dog, they're like little you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I've never felt that way, And I've always had a
Speaker 5: tremendous amount of respect for the things that you all
Speaker 5: have done, your accomplishments. It just goes back to the
Speaker 5: root of the friendship. So what we're watching on TV
Speaker 5: is because there are some fundamental cracks in their friendship
Speaker 5: that are directly related to ego, to jealousy, to sharing
Speaker 5: the spotlight, to not speaking up. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: You have to really show up one hundred percent in
Speaker 5: a friendship in both extremes that we're seeing in the
Speaker 5: friendship of Shamia and Porsche. Both of them could have
Speaker 5: done a better job being honest with each other. Both
Speaker 5: of them could have done a better job prioritizing their relationship.
Speaker 5: But from what we've seen on the TV, Porsche has
Speaker 5: not been as good of a friend to Shamiya as
Speaker 5: we've seen Shamiah be to Porsha.
Speaker 4: That's it for me and putting my I try to
Speaker 4: put myself in people's shoes, and for Portia, I understand
Speaker 4: in a way how she may feel. Right, this is
Speaker 4: my area, this is where I like, this is my
Speaker 4: thing that I have my show. And then when my
Speaker 4: friend comes along that you know, maybe you little little
Speaker 4: maybe you do little dog or a little sister, I
Speaker 4: don't know, but she comes along and like the first
Speaker 4: few weeks, like everyone was like Samia Shamia, Shmia, I
Speaker 4: could see how someone that's not that I could see
Speaker 4: all that she would feel like you're encroaching on my territory,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Not that it's right or
Speaker 4: not that it's wrong. I'm just saying I could just
Speaker 4: be I just just be sympathetic to how she may feel.
Speaker 4: You know, and maybe if she's not that secure, maybe
Speaker 4: she feels like someone's encroaching upon the thing that I
Speaker 4: have over you, or the thing that I have the
Speaker 4: one thing that's mine. This is my area. Not that
Speaker 4: it's right, but I could see it.
Speaker 5: I just think you even using the words over you,
Speaker 5: like the thing I have over you, just to me
Speaker 5: that that is the thing right there in her mind.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, like the fact that that even
Speaker 5: exists me personally, I'm not gonna be around nobody that
Speaker 5: I can't trust. To me, that's the number one way
Speaker 5: to be not safe. You hear crazy ass true crime
Speaker 5: stories all the time about the best friend who was
Speaker 5: really jealous or whatever.
Speaker 3: The fuck. The minute I see any indication.
Speaker 5: Of jealousy or snake ass behavior, any of that type shit,
Speaker 5: you'll never hear from me again, real shit, because that's
Speaker 5: a safety issue at that point, and it's no place
Speaker 5: for that sort of perspective in real friendship. To me,
Speaker 5: it's no way that Porsche should have ever. I don't
Speaker 5: care what we don't know she actually felt like this.
Speaker 5: We're judging based on what we've been seeing, on what
Speaker 5: we've been shown on the show, Right But to me,
Speaker 5: there's no way that she should have ever felt like
Speaker 5: this show was something that a person, a motherfucker she
Speaker 5: brought on the show. You know what I'm saying, can't
Speaker 5: be a part of We wouldn't even know Samia as
Speaker 5: your friend. Un Listen, you didn't bring her on the
Speaker 5: damn show, Porsche. So for you to have that idea
Speaker 5: that you don't want to share in that way or
Speaker 5: share the spotlight, that's kind of fucked up to me,
Speaker 5: Like that ain't what a good friend looks like.
Speaker 1: This is what the reason why this episode's my favorite
Speaker 1: is because these are the type of topics I want
Speaker 1: to talk about because it's relatable.
Speaker 2: It's relatable to the friendships, whether.
Speaker 1: It's gays, girls, men, these are relatable topics. And I
Speaker 1: think bafe on what happened at Porscha's event, Right, So
Speaker 1: Porscha learns this information and she decides not to talk.
Speaker 2: To Shemi about it. Right, all the girls are at
Speaker 2: the event, and then.
Speaker 1: Kelly, Kelly decided to tell Shmiah, like, look, just so
Speaker 1: you know, Angela told Portia what you said about her,
Speaker 1: and we you know, I know, we pinky swar, you know,
Speaker 1: which that's not the greatest thing right to say, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you all something about pinky swear. I think
Speaker 1: the thing is this, The difference between a Beyonce and
Speaker 1: Kelly is this Beyonce and Kelly both were in the
Speaker 1: group together, and Beyonce as the lead singer, so she
Speaker 1: always by position literally positioned, was always two steps ahead
Speaker 1: of the rest of the girls in the group. Right,
Speaker 1: But they both had a dream of startup. And what
Speaker 1: I would like to know from Porsche and Shamia? And
Speaker 1: this is just me being real. Did Shamia ever tell Porsche, right, hey,
Speaker 1: I really want to be a housewife?
Speaker 2: Can you put me on? Because you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like if me and Dustin, me and you are boys,
Speaker 1: and and and and this happened to me.
Speaker 2: In my life. Thank you, Dustin, Save me, Lord Jesus.
Speaker 1: Where somebody assumed that I didn't give much to them,
Speaker 1: and I said, how am I supposed to know you
Speaker 1: wanted this? If you didn't tell me, like you're walking
Speaker 1: around here mad at me, Well you should have get
Speaker 1: you you. I wanted some camera time too, if you
Speaker 1: would have told me, I would say, Okay. Me and
Speaker 1: Dustin met as friends. I met as a fan of Dustin. Right,
Speaker 1: I was a fan of Dustin's reviews and his acting
Speaker 1: skills alongside Justse Smilett Honey. So I was a fan
Speaker 1: of Dustin and me and Dustin friendship developed because of
Speaker 1: just me admiring his skill set. And then when I
Speaker 1: was doing all this stuff with his YouTube channel, I
Speaker 1: obviously know you had a podcast, and I said, you
Speaker 1: want to help my my YouTube and recap some stuff
Speaker 1: with me. And when people start to like Dustin so
Speaker 1: much so, Claudia, let's talk about real friendship. Some people
Speaker 1: would say Dustin needs to host a reunion instead of Carlos.
Speaker 2: Kick Carlos off and have Dustin do it.
Speaker 1: I never once kicked Dustin off of my channel because
Speaker 1: he was getting all this attention.
Speaker 2: If anything, I embraced it because at.
Speaker 1: The end of the day, I'm not We're not just
Speaker 1: with each other, but we also have a real friendship.
Speaker 1: And I know Dustin's dreams and I'm here to help
Speaker 1: Dustin fulfill all his dreams that.
Speaker 2: I'm able to do. Stay thin with you, Claudia.
Speaker 1: People, you got Claudia on your show, kick her off,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I like her recapping Atlanta Housewives, says
Speaker 1: to me. Y'alln't gotta like it, but I think it
Speaker 1: makes sense and I'm here to help Claudia live about
Speaker 1: her dreams. I am curious in real life, did Shamia
Speaker 1: ever tell Porsche I would like to be an Atlanta housewife?
Speaker 2: Can you put in a word?
Speaker 1: And if Shamiah never told Porsha, how is it Porsia's
Speaker 1: fault that she didn't give her a recommendation? If Shamia
Speaker 1: never said that to her, and that's the conversaituation they
Speaker 1: should have.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this and let y'all cook.
Speaker 1: When Shamiah was put on the spot to address it,
Speaker 1: I saw a little girl afraid to speak up for herself.
Speaker 1: And I felt so bad for Shamiah because I want
Speaker 1: to go deep with Shamiah. I need to know what
Speaker 1: was Shamiah told in her childhood. Whereas a grown woman,
Speaker 1: she has this visible fear of telling her truth.
Speaker 2: And I felt really, really sad for her.
Speaker 4: Didn't she say on the show though? Or didn't? Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm seeing people say that. Also. Candy brought her on
Speaker 4: the show as well, but didn't shouldn't admit that she
Speaker 4: did see evidence that Porscha did in fact, make a
Speaker 4: recommendation the show. So to Porscha's credit, she did. She did,
Speaker 4: she did recommend her. But but there's one thing you recommend,
Speaker 4: you know, and you recommend someone with something, but then
Speaker 4: people really embrace them like you may not think they're
Speaker 4: gonna embrace them like that. You're like, oh, yeah, you
Speaker 4: come on the show, it's all good, But then they
Speaker 4: saw giving you lots of love. Maybe there's that, But Porsche,
Speaker 4: you're still a star. Like listen, no matter what I
Speaker 4: say about you, my critique of some of your behavior,
Speaker 4: you're still a star. Like, no one's taken your shine
Speaker 4: away with you. You have a huge fan base, You
Speaker 4: have lots of opportunities people like you have a lot
Speaker 4: of people that do like you. Even with your you know,
Speaker 4: your little messes, you do like you never have to worry.
Speaker 4: I've worked with a really big personality one time that
Speaker 4: like would be so intimidate, not intimidate, bothered by people
Speaker 4: that we're nowhere near his level of fame or wealth,
Speaker 4: and it was mind blowing, Like you, how much further
Speaker 4: have to go to be on that level? Like you're good,
Speaker 4: but there are some people that are bothered by just
Speaker 4: a little bit of Shine getting away from I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that's Portia's case, but Portia did recommend her for
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 5: She did has been recommended several times. Candy has spoken
Speaker 5: at lengths about how she fought for many seasons to
Speaker 5: you know, she advocated, catered for Sama to be a
Speaker 5: part of this cast.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: Another note I think that we need to speak about
Speaker 5: related to the Porscha, Shamia and Angela of it all right.
Speaker 3: Again, they got mad at Candy.
Speaker 5: For her speak on the videos over the years, right,
Speaker 5: and they felt like she was dragging the cast. But
Speaker 5: those speak on the videos are now turning out to
Speaker 5: be a great resource and a great time stamp for
Speaker 5: what the fuck has happened. So Marlowe was on Speak
Speaker 5: on It a couple seasons ago and she spoke about
Speaker 5: this was when this was season thirteen, when they went
Speaker 5: to New Orleans and all that shit was going on.
Speaker 5: There was an I remember Big Freeda came on the
Speaker 5: show and there was an argument at the table. Marlow
Speaker 5: speaks at length and Candy speak on the video about
Speaker 5: Samia getting upset with her. If you remember, at that table,
Speaker 5: Samiah was chiming in and she was nailing Marlow at
Speaker 5: that table, and it was because there had been another
Speaker 5: conversation off camera, just like the one that had taken
Speaker 5: place in this season where Marlow said Marlow and Shamia
Speaker 5: were arguing and Marlow said something about Samia's husband. According
Speaker 5: to Marlow, this is straight out of Marlow's mouth to Candy,
Speaker 5: Marlow said something about Samia's husband in some capacity, and
Speaker 5: apparently Shemia said like, he wouldn't want you, and Marlow was.
Speaker 3: Like, yo, man, hell fuck me. If he'll fuck you,
Speaker 3: you know, he'll fuck me.
Speaker 5: And Shemiah was highly offended by that, and you can
Speaker 5: see in her disposition in the scenes that followed at
Speaker 5: the table and all that other shit, that that was
Speaker 5: a real issue for her. So a lot of people
Speaker 5: have been sharing that clip and comparing and contrasting it
Speaker 5: to Shemia's nonchalant nature. When Angela expressed to her that
Speaker 5: she was upset about what she over, her porschas saying
Speaker 5: off camera, might I add you know what I'm saying
Speaker 5: about Angela's husband.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think that.
Speaker 5: I just think that there's deeper issues going on here
Speaker 5: when they're showing themselves as who they really are to
Speaker 5: each other. Remember the conversation that went on about Charles
Speaker 5: and and what Porscha said that was off camera, So
Speaker 5: those ladies were that was not for the show. That
Speaker 5: was not you know, conversation to move story along or
Speaker 5: say something to antagonize Angela. That was really real shit
Speaker 5: that they was kicking outside that pool. That was real
Speaker 5: feelings they were sharing that weren't really for the show
Speaker 5: or for our consumption. So it just makes you think
Speaker 5: on a deeper level, like what's really going on here?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. And I think that's why
Speaker 5: people have started to this resounding conversation about holding this
Speaker 5: person accountable or holding that person accountable.
Speaker 3: But that flows flat on me because.
Speaker 5: As soon as Cynthia held Kenya accountable, y'all was on
Speaker 5: her ass for weeks saying she was a horrible friend
Speaker 5: of Kenya, she was a bad friend of Kenya. She
Speaker 5: should have did this different, she shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 5: So at this point, I'm just enjoying the show. If
Speaker 5: the conversations happened on camera and we can make some
Speaker 5: sort of determination based on that, that's it. That's what
Speaker 5: I'm doing, because when it comes down to True Blue accountability.
Speaker 5: When it comes down to a person really standing on shit,
Speaker 5: it doesn't land the way that we think it would
Speaker 5: on the fans. So that's why you don't play to
Speaker 5: the fans. And that's why I don't even read the
Speaker 5: comments because I feel like it's a place for people
Speaker 5: to share their thoughts. It's not a place to seek
Speaker 5: inspiration or to use as a compass when you're performing
Speaker 5: as a part of these casts. And I think that's
Speaker 5: another part of the disconnect when it comes to their
Speaker 5: friend and shit, because the fans have a lot to
Speaker 5: say about their friendship and that history.
Speaker 4: Two things also, Shamia's husband didn't want her to go
Speaker 4: on the show, right, there's that. And one thing we
Speaker 4: are forgetting about in regards to Porsha and Shia's friendship
Speaker 4: is Shamiah didn't even know why Porsche didn't come to
Speaker 4: her wedding. That was that had to be like wait, what,
Speaker 4: I'm just finding this out now, you know, like you
Speaker 4: holding things in for years Like that is like you
Speaker 4: not telling me, I don't know, this is bananas, Like
Speaker 4: if you're not coming to my wedding even though I
Speaker 4: had three however, that had right as my bestie I'm
Speaker 4: gonna need to know that day what the reason is.
Speaker 4: I need to know right away. You know, that's got
Speaker 4: to be you know that was that was deep. That
Speaker 4: moment right there, that was pretty deep.
Speaker 1: Let's get into that because one of the things that
Speaker 1: was said was Porscha told Shama, then I go to
Speaker 1: your wedding because we weren't speaking pretty much speaking, and
Speaker 1: Shamiyah said she never knew that, and that she was
Speaker 1: told something about her, something about not being able to
Speaker 1: fly and the comfortability of it. And then you know,
Speaker 1: black Twitter child, Black Twitter loves of receipt.
Speaker 2: That's why, to Edessa's.
Speaker 1: Point, when you are on these shows, you have to
Speaker 1: like remember what you say. One of the things that
Speaker 1: Claudia Jordia one of the things was in a previous season,
Speaker 1: Porcha said she didn't go because I think it was
Speaker 1: something dealing with.
Speaker 2: Blood clots or something.
Speaker 4: On the plane with.
Speaker 5: The Philippines, Porscha said she couldn't get a seat of
Speaker 5: first class flight and it was a long flight because
Speaker 5: remember Candy and Carman were laughing at the table that
Speaker 5: was in the heat of their disagreement, and they were
Speaker 5: laughing about not being able to recline on the plane
Speaker 5: and and that being her reason for not going.
Speaker 1: Yeh, so the fans saw that. So it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where could two things?
Speaker 2: Could two things be true?
Speaker 1: Or did y'all feel like what you said, Claudia, This
Speaker 1: friendship is so fractured that they don't have the ability
Speaker 1: to be real with each other based on the whatever's
Speaker 1: happening in the moment.
Speaker 4: Seems like Portia's dismissive of Shemia, like, yeah, whatever, get
Speaker 4: over it. You know, if I can make it, I'll
Speaker 4: make it. And then I it feels like Shamia is
Speaker 4: afraid to, like really call to the carpet if my
Speaker 4: best friend's not making one of my three weddings, or
Speaker 4: if I wedding to however many I want answers, and
Speaker 4: I would hold them accountable because I don't feel inferior
Speaker 4: to my best friend.
Speaker 1: She went to for the record portrait that go to
Speaker 1: the wedding in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Well that's convenient. I mean, if I just got to
Speaker 4: drive down the street, drive up eighty five, that's not
Speaker 4: a big deal. That's not a big sacrifice. I need
Speaker 4: you to get on a plane. You my bestie. And
Speaker 4: if I said I'm an offer to BUYO ticket. HEFA,
Speaker 4: you better be there. I'm just saying, but I feel
Speaker 4: like that may feel like not being able to communicate
Speaker 4: with someone that you do love. They do, I'm sure
Speaker 4: they love each other, right, That's got to be a
Speaker 4: horrible feeling, like feeling like you can't really say until
Speaker 4: you had the nudging of two women you kind of just.
Speaker 5: Met, which at that point, the other person is obviously
Speaker 5: going to be in defense mode. Right If we're now
Speaker 5: discussing some deep, deeply buried, deep rooted, deep seated issues
Speaker 5: at the behest of some people that we really don't
Speaker 5: even know, like that, you know what I'm saying, Porscha
Speaker 5: is automatically going to be on defense mode, and that's
Speaker 5: why we're seeing the breakdown that we're seeing right now
Speaker 5: in their friendship. Since the airing of this episode on Sunday,
Speaker 5: Shamia is done press I saw her doing some inner.
Speaker 5: She did watch What Happens Live on Sunday and spoke
Speaker 5: very clearly and plainly about her disappointment and the breakdown
Speaker 5: of her friendship with Porsche, and she said that Andy
Speaker 5: asked her what she pausing or stopping, and she said,
Speaker 5: at this point she is the friendship. So Shamia is
Speaker 5: being more vocal now than she's ever been about it,
Speaker 5: and she has definitely been empowered from whatever source or
Speaker 5: for whatever reasons to speak her truth. I really enjoy
Speaker 5: Shamia on this show. Seeing her as a housewife has
Speaker 5: been great for me. I'm happy to see her on camera.
Speaker 5: I think she's got a great, big personality that translates
Speaker 5: well into television. And I like Shamia on this show.
Speaker 5: I've always felt like Shamiah was wronged with that Phaedrus
Speaker 5: shit and the Candy situation, So seeing her in this arc,
Speaker 5: I'm enjoying it. I want to see more of it,
Speaker 5: and I also respect friendship. So no matter what my
Speaker 5: personal opinion is on who's right or wrong, we're talking about.
Speaker 3: A twenty plus year of friendship from.
Speaker 5: When they was kids, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: that's something that you covered and you revere. Sometimes that
Speaker 5: reverence has to start in the midst of a breakdown
Speaker 5: or be you know, it has to be derived from
Speaker 5: a breakdown sometimes, So maybe they can fix it.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping the best, but this.
Speaker 2: Is how I feel destined.
Speaker 1: Just because you grew up with somebody as kids or
Speaker 1: teenagers and you guys were the best of friends as teens.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that doesn't translate when you are grown. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people stay friends because of the
Speaker 1: history of the years they've known each other.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be honest here.
Speaker 1: I'm being very honest when I say this, and I
Speaker 1: know Atlanta I lived there for years. Portia Shamia as
Speaker 1: adult women are not in the same friend group, and
Speaker 1: I think they both should talk to each other.
Speaker 2: I don't see them being friends.
Speaker 1: I think they're friends because of the history of the number.
Speaker 1: I think Shamia in real life has our own group
Speaker 1: of friends, and Portia in real life has our own
Speaker 1: group of friends. I think they will always have. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping this a respectful relationship, but I've been one thousand percent.
Speaker 1: They're not the same type of chicks. They're just not.
Speaker 1: And I think somebody has to say it like I
Speaker 1: did growing up. Me and you, Yes, we known each
Speaker 1: other since we were this age, but in my forties
Speaker 1: we don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: We're not the same but different people, and it's okay,
Speaker 1: it's okay. I don't think portion Shamia should be friends.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they're not the same woman. They have two
Speaker 1: separate friend groups. They it's obvious, but they gotta have
Speaker 1: that tough conversation with each other, just like how Nini
Speaker 1: and Cynthia. On Nini's Leaks podcast watch it, she interviewed Cynthia.
Speaker 2: It was a great conversation.
Speaker 1: I love the I love the interview because Nini and
Speaker 1: Cynthia both said, I'm paraphrasing that we like who we
Speaker 1: are today. We won't ever be back like we were,
Speaker 1: but if we stumble upon each other at dinner, we
Speaker 1: can talk.
Speaker 2: But gone are the days of Nanni.
Speaker 1: And Cynthia talking on the phone ten times a day,
Speaker 1: all the days of them going on vacation together. But
Speaker 1: they can coexist and get a good key, key, have
Speaker 1: a cocktail, keep a movement. I think Shuni and Porsche
Speaker 1: needs to have that level of prenticeship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. And also people change. I mean, listen,
Speaker 4: there's no secret that Porsia's sister also felt away about
Speaker 4: how she's been treated by her as well, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So it's not like this is an
Speaker 4: isolated incident, and maybe she's changed, maybe the fame from
Speaker 4: you know, she definitely blew up, you know, and some
Speaker 4: people act differently to us people. You can't start treating
Speaker 4: people like they're your assistant or they're you know, hold
Speaker 4: my bag, take my picture, you know, all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff, you know. And sometimes if fame comes quickly,
Speaker 4: sometimes it makes people kind of like, you know, kind
Speaker 4: of be filmed themselves and be a little bit, I
Speaker 4: don't know, unconcerned about other people's feelings, are a little
Speaker 4: bit colorblind to it, where you don't even like notice
Speaker 4: that you're doing it, you know, because all the everybody
Speaker 4: else is fawning over you and fans and whatever you need.
Speaker 4: And then you start treating people that are close to
Speaker 4: you like there's a help not saying she's doing that.
Speaker 4: I'm just a hypothesis, hypothetically speaking. But you know, it's okay,
Speaker 4: and nostalgia is not enough of a reason to stay
Speaker 4: friends if it's hurting you both of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So all right, So next week, Dustin, Claudia, Smia,
Speaker 1: and Portscha have their famous well infamous, I should say,
Speaker 1: sit down. So we will be back next week and
Speaker 1: talk about that in the rest of the episode.
Speaker 2: But thank you to so much for another great recap.
Speaker 1: Claudia, you are on tour, honey, not cowboy Carter, but
Speaker 1: cop Boy, Claudia last let them know what you got
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 4: Baby. We were in Indianapolis, Chicago for two shows in
Speaker 4: Saint Louis. Just got to Atlanta today. We're gonna be
Speaker 4: in Greensboro on Thursday, Atlanta shows on Saturday, and then
Speaker 4: Charlotte on Sunday. I'll be in Atlanta all week. I
Speaker 4: actually had a long conversation with Cynthia yesterday. We talked
Speaker 4: for like over an hour. We get to catch up.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad we got to talk about a bunch
Speaker 4: of things like shout out to you, Cynthia, I love you.
Speaker 4: That was fantastic. And she's like, I've be seeing with y'all.
Speaker 4: She's like, you're built for that. I love what you're saying.
Speaker 4: She likes the commentary and all of that. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's busy with that. Also, I really have to say
Speaker 4: on this Wednesday on my podcast with Erica cop we
Speaker 4: just got a huge booking. You know, I'm a political nerd,
Speaker 4: but we have the Minority Speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffreys,
Speaker 4: joining us all of it. Yes, we're talking about messaging
Speaker 4: of the Democratic Party, the things that Trump is doing,
Speaker 4: and just a lot of things that. I am so
Speaker 4: excited to please tune in this Wednesday Live on I'm
Speaker 4: accidentally informed with myself and Erica Cop it's gonna be
Speaker 4: a big shot for us.
Speaker 2: So yes, I love that. And dust is also on tour,
Speaker 2: so Dustin, you have many.
Speaker 3: Dates a dude.
Speaker 5: Man, God is good and he told me you can
Speaker 5: talk to shit, so I get to go. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I'm very excited. Tickets are available now.
Speaker 5: Go to Dustin rosslive dot com and you can have
Speaker 5: access to tickets to all the shows. We're kicking things
Speaker 5: off May twenty fourth in Pittsburgh. May thirty first, we'll
Speaker 5: be in Seattle and then there's a litany of other
Speaker 5: cities listed as well, So please.
Speaker 3: Come out and laugh. We're gonna have a good time.
Speaker 3: And I can't wait to.
Speaker 5: See everybody on the road and shout out to everybody
Speaker 5: who's already purchased tickets.
Speaker 3: I'll get so.
Speaker 5: Many tweets and dms and shit from people who bought
Speaker 5: tickets and it really warms my heart.
Speaker 3: So thank you, and I'm excited come see me.
Speaker 4: I love seeing good people winning YouTube.
Speaker 3: Thank you my friends, Same to you, same you love you.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, Robert Allen said, tell Dustin how sexy he
Speaker 1: is to me?
Speaker 2: Team Shami.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Robert Allen, and yes I am Team Shamid.
Speaker 2: That's right, all right, well, thank you, Jasin Banking, Claudia.
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