WEBVTT - RHOA Recap: From BFFs to WTFs?!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the

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<v Speaker 1>King of Reality TV and one of the most sought

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<v Speaker 1>after executive producers in reality television with over ten years

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<v Speaker 1>a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,

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<v Speaker 1>recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that

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<v Speaker 1>we are still talking and tweeting about.

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<v Speaker 2>Rain droves.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here to talk about the most recent episode,

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<v Speaker 1>episode ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe yes, episode ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called Meditation and Mediation I believe was the

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<v Speaker 1>episode title of the latest episode of the Real Housewives

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<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta. Before we get started with our recap and

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<v Speaker 1>diving into the conversation, I will say this, this was

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite episode of the season. I love this episode

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason why I love this episode is because

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<v Speaker 1>every scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Mattered.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say mattered. It was nice to see Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>with her girls. It was nice to see Angela in

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<v Speaker 1>her investments properties and really speak about being in depth

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<v Speaker 1>two million dollars in depth based on her investments.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, and obviously we get into the other conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of this episode. It was my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>for those reasons. But I want to start off by

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<v Speaker 1>talking about let's just get into it. It's the scene

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of kicked off this episode, which was.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I, you know, being told.

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<v Speaker 1>That my facial expressions give a lot away and I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to have all my shade glasses so that.

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<v Speaker 3>You need a layer. You need a layer, right bro?

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<v Speaker 2>Because of it? Okay fall weather gap, Okay, Look.

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<v Speaker 1>Shamia met with Ralph ralph Is Dreu Sidoras, a strange

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<v Speaker 1>husband who lives in the basement. They are going through divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, Porsche also walked in. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being very honest when I say this, it was hard

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<v Speaker 1>to watch that scene.

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<v Speaker 2>From from a It was hard to watch it because

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<v Speaker 2>it just didn't feel good. It didn't feel good. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just being I'm being I'm being very honest, and it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel good to watch it because.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I've learned producing The Real Hospitals of Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>season six, and this is this is coming from an

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<v Speaker 1>openly gay man who has never been married. But one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I've learned from season six and obviously later

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<v Speaker 1>in life creating Lemon Marriage franchise is the sanctity of marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>and how when it comes to married couples there is

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of rule you have when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are interfacing with someone's wife or husband.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why I brought up season six is

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<v Speaker 1>because that was the season where Pedra and Kenya have

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<v Speaker 1>this big beef about Kenya texting Apollo. Now, to Apollo's credit,

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<v Speaker 1>years later on my podcast Thank You very Much, he

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<v Speaker 1>admitted that he lied that Kenya wanted him. He admitted

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<v Speaker 1>he lied right, So Kenya's been vindicated now when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to Kenya texting him regardless, and Kenya admit it

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<v Speaker 1>on camera she was wrong for texting him in hindsight

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<v Speaker 1>and she texted him thank you, thank you, babe. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was I learned through that season how you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't on camera, on camera be seen with someone's

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember us going to Mexico and Phedra told

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<v Speaker 1>Kenya she wanted to slap was it the dog pits

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<v Speaker 1>out of her mouth or something, Dustin or Claudia, because

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<v Speaker 1>because in Mexico, her and Candy walked in and she

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<v Speaker 1>saw King get Apollo talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that, and I was I was there for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So to watch that scene in this recent episode. It

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<v Speaker 1>was hard for me to watch because of the history

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<v Speaker 1>of it and on top of the fact that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>have a real conversation. We know that Porscha is not

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<v Speaker 1>happy with Drew based on Drew filming with.

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<v Speaker 2>Dennis, so it was hard to watch. It was hard

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, but we'll love to get your thoughts on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Shame on Smiya and Porsta and I actually liked Samiyah.

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<v Speaker 4>I do then playing our faces like they met up

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<v Speaker 4>and oh, Porsia happened to stop by. No, y'all are

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<v Speaker 4>best friends. Y'all ca calculated that, y'all set that up.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna go film a scene with with with Ralph

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<v Speaker 4>to pay back Drew. I will say this, The difference

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<v Speaker 4>between the two groups is when Drew and Dennis are filming,

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<v Speaker 4>we see them in a music and working capacity for

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<v Speaker 4>the most part, right, Like, I ain't seen them trashing.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not dragging Porsche. I've not seen that. I've not

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<v Speaker 4>seen that. But the entire lunch with Shamiah, Porsche and

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<v Speaker 4>Ralph was dragging Drew, So you can't be I think

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<v Speaker 4>Porscha would have been better served if she never did

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<v Speaker 4>this and then you know, she could stand on business

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<v Speaker 4>about I really stand on the fact that I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want you filming with my my ex. I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>wrong because to then go and film with someone who

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<v Speaker 4>a strange current, a strange husband. You know, you just

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<v Speaker 4>canceled out your complaint. Actually you made yourself look worse.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think she should she could have done without

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<v Speaker 4>that scene. I think she did herself no favors in

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<v Speaker 4>that scene. It was messy, it was mean, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was like playing in our face, like, oh, I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I just felt like they set that

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<v Speaker 4>up for paypack and let's just call it what it is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Like and Ralph, I'm gonna speak to you, Ralph,

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<v Speaker 4>Dennis isn't letting Drew talk. She's not talking greasy about

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<v Speaker 4>Porsche to Dennis. That's not happening, right. But with Ralph,

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<v Speaker 4>that is the mother of the kids. You may not

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<v Speaker 4>like her anymore, love be in love with her anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>with Drew anymore, but that is still the mother of

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<v Speaker 4>your kids. And you're meeting up with basically her ops

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<v Speaker 4>at this point, and you're allowing the shit talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the mother of your kids. And I think that was

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<v Speaker 4>real raggedy Ralph. I think that was whack and I

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<v Speaker 4>felt I too, was like this, this doesn't feel good.

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<v Speaker 4>It did not feel good to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think what did not feel good about the

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<v Speaker 5>scene was the dishonesty about the intention of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right for me, it ain't that deep.

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<v Speaker 5>Porscha, you mad at Drew because she filmed with Dennis,

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<v Speaker 5>so you fielm with Ralph to get her back full stop.

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<v Speaker 5>It was that simple, right, I think that? And okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you know Shemiah said that she was meeting up with

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<v Speaker 5>Ralph to discuss his podcast or something or whatever he

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<v Speaker 5>had coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his podcast Kings and Queen's Corps. I believe something

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<v Speaker 1>along those lines.

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<v Speaker 5>I wish him much success as a person who has

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<v Speaker 5>been podcasting for over ten years. I won an NAACP

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<v Speaker 5>Image Award for podcasting and not in the shit talking category.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted in best News and Information category, so as

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<v Speaker 5>a legitimate voice in the podcasting space. They didn't discuss

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<v Speaker 5>anything about producing a podcast at that table, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think that that is the part that fellas lit the

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<v Speaker 5>flat with the viewers. Also, Shemiah setting that up so

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<v Speaker 5>that Porscha could come film with Ralph. You know, it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't help with the allegations that she is incessantly appearing

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<v Speaker 5>in a supportive role or supportive capacity in her friendship

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<v Speaker 5>with Porsche. That's why people say that shit, because you

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<v Speaker 5>do things like allow her, at least in our view,

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<v Speaker 5>to go unscathed with being disrespectful about your song to

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<v Speaker 5>Shamiah about her song, and just not being what most

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<v Speaker 5>people consider a good friend to be. But then Samiah

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<v Speaker 5>eagerly stepped right into the mess and set up a

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<v Speaker 5>dinner with Ralph and film with him. Porscha was in

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<v Speaker 5>at that dinner table, moving Ralph's fingers, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it was different things that she was doing to directly

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<v Speaker 5>antagonize Drew. And I ain't mad about it, because if

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<v Speaker 5>that's where they're at in their relationship, so be it.

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<v Speaker 5>But just say that shit. It would have been so

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<v Speaker 5>much better to see portion in her confessionals, like her

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<v Speaker 5>ass was feeling with my baby daddy, I'm finna go

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<v Speaker 5>film with Ralph.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to dinner.

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<v Speaker 5>And then she sat down and her and Shamiah ordered

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<v Speaker 5>all that food and them drinks and they laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>Just stand in it. We all know what it was like.

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<v Speaker 5>Just stand in it. That's where I was at with

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<v Speaker 5>it and Ralph. Since we're speaking about Ralph, Ralph, think

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<v Speaker 5>about sometimes you have to zoom on and look at

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<v Speaker 5>the big picture. Ralph is on this show in a

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<v Speaker 5>subordinate capacity. He's Drew's estranged husband. His only experience getting

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<v Speaker 5>to the attention at the cameras from the Real Housewives

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<v Speaker 5>of Atlanta and Bravo bring to people is it he

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<v Speaker 5>is presented or appearing in some capacity connected to Drew.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, they ain't fucking with each other. He's in

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<v Speaker 5>the basement, she's upstairs. The only chance he gets to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about anything on camera is if he's talking about her.

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<v Speaker 5>What better position as an opt than to link up

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<v Speaker 5>with her other opts and do it on camera. My

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<v Speaker 5>thing is just stand in it and say it. Y'all

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<v Speaker 5>not meeting to discuss no damn podcasts, y'all mean up

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<v Speaker 5>because all of y'all, including Samia, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 5>they really don't fuck with Drew like that, And so

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<v Speaker 5>my thing is just say it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to agree with you, and you hit the

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<v Speaker 2>nail on the head.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if on the onslaught right, if if Shami

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<v Speaker 1>and Porscha devised this scheme and had a very girlfriend moment,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, like and would have been

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<v Speaker 1>silly with it, like let's dress up as like private

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<v Speaker 1>investigators wearing all black with our glasses on.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if the to your point that, if the

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<v Speaker 1>intention of the scene was pay back to the bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>call me karma, I think we all would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my, y'all being petty. If this is Housewives, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be petty. I actually agree with you. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>it was made, I think if it was colored to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen as on the nose, it is what it

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<v Speaker 1>is you feel in my mom you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we all would have been like I then go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually agree with you with that, because to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about I'll be to laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>But to have wrapped, as Shamilla say, we're meeting about

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast because Samia appeared on one episode of a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was insulting the intelligence of the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it was what we just said it was,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they would have been more forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was corny. That was corny, and there was

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see that one moment of magic between Shemiah

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<v Speaker 4>and Ralph that would make me want to tune into

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<v Speaker 4>a podcast with them. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>I like Shmia's speaking voice. I want to hear more

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<v Speaker 5>of it. I think she has one of the most

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<v Speaker 5>beautiful speaking voices, and she can sing her ass off.

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<v Speaker 2>She does.

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<v Speaker 5>She doesn't sound like Drew, who can sing too, but

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<v Speaker 5>they have distinctly different voices.

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<v Speaker 4>Porsche, she she doesn't and I like and I do

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<v Speaker 4>like her for the most part, but I don't like

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<v Speaker 4>the way she's been moving the last two episodes. I

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<v Speaker 4>think she I guess we gave her so much credit

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<v Speaker 4>for being so much more like above this, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>being the wife, being stable, being a very much a

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<v Speaker 4>support system for Porsche throughout all the years, being actually wealthy,

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<v Speaker 4>actually having the things, not having to rent the clothes

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<v Speaker 4>and all that kind of stuff. She has the things,

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<v Speaker 4>like everything that that should have set her up to

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<v Speaker 4>be a good housewife. But it didn't take very long

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<v Speaker 4>for her to get put back in this box. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it was frustrating for Shemiah to get this

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<v Speaker 4>lapdog label. Nobody wants that label. But you're not helping

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<v Speaker 4>yourself when I guess we all want like we're rooting

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<v Speaker 4>for you, Shamia, like you know, like the Tyra Banks clip,

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<v Speaker 4>we were rooting for you. We were all rooting for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I think it would have made her look so

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<v Speaker 4>dope and so powerful to still be a friend to Porsche,

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<v Speaker 4>but to hold her accountable and say, hey, friend, if

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna do it, like y'all said, be intentional, make

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<v Speaker 4>it a thing, be funny with it. But to play

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<v Speaker 4>in our faces and be like I think Porsche said

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<v Speaker 4>something like, oh, Shamia was meeting with him, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was came by girl, girl, by go play with your mom,

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<v Speaker 4>but don't play with us, because we're not stupid. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's very obvious, like if me and my friend were

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<v Speaker 4>going to do a scene, we would text each other

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<v Speaker 4>what we're gonna do, and like, okay, you go first,

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<v Speaker 4>and now pop up and act like I just came

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<v Speaker 4>to meet you for drinks. We're not dumb. This is

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<v Speaker 4>season sixteen. We've seen shenanigans before, and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>was really why. And I really think the worst person

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<v Speaker 4>in that scene was Ralph dropping tea about his wife

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<v Speaker 4>messing with time allegedly, and then he lied by the

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<v Speaker 4>way about him filing for divorce. Because if you go

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<v Speaker 4>look up the divorce papers, guess who's label listen as

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<v Speaker 4>the petitioner exactly, So guess who the what petitioner means,

0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.760
<v Speaker 4>ladies and gentlemen. Petitioner is the one who instigates the divorce.

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<v Speaker 4>The respondent is the one who responds. So you said

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<v Speaker 4>that you filed first, Ralph.

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<v Speaker 5>So the day that that happened, there was a joke

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<v Speaker 5>online about them racing to the courthouse to file first,

0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.599
<v Speaker 5>and everybody remembers Drew getting there first. So I was

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<v Speaker 5>kind of confused by him saying that as well in

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<v Speaker 5>that scene because we're fans of this show. That was

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<v Speaker 5>news directly related to what's going on with the show,

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<v Speaker 5>and we remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, damn, Like Claudia a journalist, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the think's Claudia, call me b Arthur.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait where are these?

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<v Speaker 4>How many you have got wardrobe dreams?

0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.160
<v Speaker 5>He got that drawer glasses like Sanford and Son, remember

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<v Speaker 5>Rial Fox. You soafing that drawer with all them glasses

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<v Speaker 5>in it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a faith prop Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Claudia, apparently you have done your research, So do

0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what time Drew filed first, do you have

0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that the document's handy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have the time, but I also have some

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<v Speaker 4>more tea because I actually called Drew before we went

0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.280
<v Speaker 4>on the air, That's why I was late getting it together.

0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.640
<v Speaker 4>And I said, Drew, tell me what's good, Like, did

0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.320
<v Speaker 4>you mess with Dennis? What's up with this whole Dennis piece?

0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.880
<v Speaker 4>And she said no, And I asked Dennis to clear

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<v Speaker 4>this up. She said, remember when Ralph said that Dennis

0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:45.160
<v Speaker 4>gave he gave Dennis his blessing to work, right, she said,

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<v Speaker 4>the actual text and the reason why Porte didn't actually

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<v Speaker 4>show the real tax she just kind of was reading

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<v Speaker 4>it you don't see it was because it actually said

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not trying to fuck Drew. I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 4>the money. But Porscha read it out of context to

0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.920
<v Speaker 4>make it seem like, nah, like I'm turning her down

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<v Speaker 4>for sex. Nah, I'm just trying to get to the money.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the truth. Said. She has screenshots of it, and

0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.920
<v Speaker 4>we were on she was trying to, you know, show

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<v Speaker 4>me on FaceTime. So maybe that comes up at the reunion,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that comes up in your interview tomorrow. I'm sorry

0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.040
<v Speaker 4>I bought you to her. I'm sorry. Whenever that happens,

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<v Speaker 4>I need you to ask her for this look at

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<v Speaker 4>her and Porsche. But she told me that that's what

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<v Speaker 4>the actual text was, not a half asseds mischaracterization of

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<v Speaker 4>what was said. So that's what a liar does though, Okay,

0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.920
<v Speaker 4>and that's been very effective on lots of reality shows

0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.920
<v Speaker 4>throughout the years. What people will do is take ten

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<v Speaker 4>to fifteen, twenty percent of the truth, even fifty percent

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<v Speaker 4>of the truth, and we'll have part of a text,

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<v Speaker 4>but if you read it out of context, it can

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<v Speaker 4>mean anything. I need to see the entire conversation, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's how you know who's really full of shit?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, why she says she ain't never kissed the girl?

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<v Speaker 5>And then who said she kissed the girl on the

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<v Speaker 5>show too?

0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:09.880
<v Speaker 4>What she probably did like about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, Bravo, it's good for right running at

0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.640
<v Speaker 5>the beautiful bee footage. You know what I'm saying. They

0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.280
<v Speaker 5>roll right to it every time. Yeah, I've kissed the girl,

0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.280
<v Speaker 5>I've never kissed the girl, and we'd be like Drew

0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.440
<v Speaker 5>right because I love her on this show. But it

0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.640
<v Speaker 5>just gets the waters get a little murky when it

0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:31.880
<v Speaker 5>comes to accuracy and honesty over there, that's all right, No.

0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Ready to be out it and we have we respecially

0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.200
<v Speaker 4>our gay brother. Maybe she wasn't ready to be out

0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.240
<v Speaker 4>it as a you know, as the l you know.

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<v Speaker 5>What I'm saying, which we don't know if she's is

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<v Speaker 5>or not. You know what I'm saying, We don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to touch on that briefly too, because listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not here to out anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's and I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Think she's a lost I'm not calling her lesbian.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no no no no no no no no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about the comment that I would saying, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>not for you, Claudia.

0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I was saying that based on what was aired and

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<v Speaker 1>what Raph said. You know, watching Ralph in that scene,

0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it's evident that he doesn't like Drew anymore, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And and it was that I again.

0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.960
<v Speaker 1>There, there's there's several reasons why that scene was hard

0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:30.959
<v Speaker 1>to watch. Raps disdain for his wife, and it's evident

0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that he just does not like her.

0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Now, look, I don't know who who who Drew is

0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:36.760
<v Speaker 2>at home?

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, I don't know who she is as a wife

0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.800
<v Speaker 1>or mother. Obviously, Raph knows more about his current wife

0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:43.400
<v Speaker 1>they're still.

0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Married legally than we all do. But I think for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was hard to watch him mention that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I divorced her because she allegedly was with top right,

0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:05.720
<v Speaker 1>who is Mimi Fausis X who is currently on Basketball.

0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Wives as Minglee's girlfriend or a strange friend?

0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:15.480
<v Speaker 4>And please look on Tie's opportunistic ass, okay, trying to

0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.840
<v Speaker 4>go from reality show to reality show to just be

0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.679
<v Speaker 4>in scenes with different people on different shows. And Ty,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care if you get mad about me saying this,

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<v Speaker 4>because I already said it before, and I'm saying it

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<v Speaker 4>with my whole chest. Just tall to me and you

0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.639
<v Speaker 4>got muscles, but we ain't gonna be at the same parties.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, you are going from different reality shows

0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.119
<v Speaker 4>to be with different people, and I would be a

0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.000
<v Speaker 4>little bit side on in that situation right there as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm sorry, Carlos, but I have strong feelings about that.

0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.400
<v Speaker 4>I told me me about Tie the moment I first

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<v Speaker 4>met her, I didn't have a good feeling about her,

0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.520
<v Speaker 4>and I just think she's very opportunistic, like every girlfriend

0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.560
<v Speaker 4>and man everybody you mess with is like on TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Really okay, sorry, and I digress, so allegedly Drew now

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<v Speaker 4>ming Lee, who else? Who else? Maybe that's three in

0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:04.680
<v Speaker 4>like how many years now? If I was with three

0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.200
<v Speaker 4>basketball players, y'all call me the biggest hole. Y'all do

0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:11.159
<v Speaker 4>call me the biggest hole? And I had sections damn

0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.359
<v Speaker 4>not in twenty twenty five. And okay, keep the same energy,

0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.520
<v Speaker 4>that's all I'm saying. Opportunistic time, freaky time, shoot and

0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.200
<v Speaker 4>shot at the basket and at.

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<v Speaker 2>The so Claudia, Uh, I was wing.

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<v Speaker 3>Claudia is best friends with MEMI. Man, that's how she feels.

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<v Speaker 3>How she feels dust. I'll just listen.

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<v Speaker 5>This is that's women ship. I ain't got nothing to

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<v Speaker 5>do with that. That's women ship. I'm staying completely out

0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:40.479
<v Speaker 5>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro. You already know.

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<v Speaker 4>They said Claudia might have to ask brit for her

0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.160
<v Speaker 4>pistols so she don't get me basketball?

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Y'all are we we want we involving that? So look, Hi,

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:59.639
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to break this up. Uh Claudia spit fire

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:04.760
<v Speaker 2>during receipts. Maybe you are well.

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:11.199
<v Speaker 1>I I really am intrigued. When they flashed back to

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Drew saying wow. Okay, so Ralph says, sorry, guys, have

0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a scatter bread. Claudia just took me to a whole

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.880
<v Speaker 1>another world and I'm in Pluto with Gail King and

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get back down on Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>That that was a scamming the line they did not.

0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.879
<v Speaker 1>Send the spaceship. Okay, okay, I'm back on Earth. Thank you,

0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Gail King and Katy Perry. All right, look, okay, I'm back.

0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:46.680
<v Speaker 1>So when Ralph intimated that he filed for divorce because

0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Drew was allegedly messing with Tie, they did flash back

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<v Speaker 1>to a scene of Drew saying in the middle of

0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a sentence, because you know, I want to make sure

0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I give all the contexts in the middle of the sentence,

0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.600
<v Speaker 1>since Drew does say she was there for me.

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:03.680
<v Speaker 2>When I needed her.

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<v Speaker 1>Along those lines, it did appear that it could have

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.640
<v Speaker 1>been more than friends, or it could have been taken

0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.120
<v Speaker 1>out a context that we didn't see the entire scene.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys did see that, did y'all take that as confirmation

0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>or not?

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 5>That confirmation I didn't even need in my From my perspective,

0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.280
<v Speaker 5>I felt like they had a relationship that was more

0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 5>than Platonic I did you, and it's no secret she

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.720
<v Speaker 5>changed the subject every time they talked about it. In

0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 5>the season fifteen reunion, when Drew sang on stage and

0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 5>Ralph came out and he said, first chair at the

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:41.360
<v Speaker 5>reunion they were they talked about it, Drew changed the subject.

0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 5>Candy spoke as plainly as she could about what she

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 5>knew about it. It was what it was, you know,

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.639
<v Speaker 5>And Drew has been adamant about the fact that she,

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, has not had that sort of relationship with

0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 5>a woman. The facts and shit we see appears to

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 5>present otherwise whatever. Chara even said that, remember when Chari

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.159
<v Speaker 5>at that reunion season fifteen, she said somebody had dropped

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:07.360
<v Speaker 5>off some copies of messages to the chateau.

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 3>And the message.

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 5>They passed the messages around at the reunion and read them,

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 5>and I will never forget Candy and Kenya were looking

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 5>at the damn the message and Kenya was like, oh oh,

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 5>and Candy was like, do we be texting like that?

0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 5>Do I send you stuff like that? So everybody felt

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:28.160
<v Speaker 5>that way. Ralph came on and said that, like Claudia

0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.359
<v Speaker 5>has made a great point earlier, maybe Drew's not ready

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 5>to talk about that part yet. But it would read

0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.120
<v Speaker 5>better to the audience if she would say that as

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.199
<v Speaker 5>opposed to know I didn't or no, I'm not, just

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 5>say I don't want to talk about it right now,

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 5>like Kyle Richard's be saying, they threatened, They asked Kyle

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 5>all the time. You know what I'm saying, what's up

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 5>with you in Morgan you guys fucking around or whatever?

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 3>And she never says no.

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 5>She never says slides for years, slide, two years, now, slide.

0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Let's have a real conversation.

0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I love Kyle Richards, baby, but let's clock it.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's what it is. But that's also the difference.

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 5>You get what I'm saying, That's the difference. Drew says, No,

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 5>Kyle just says when I'm ready, not right now.

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously I'm not in the community. I'm in no community

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Speaker 4>right But when people have talked to me and educating

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:22.919
<v Speaker 4>me about it, about outing people and all that kind

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:28.160
<v Speaker 4>of stuff, like I've been told, not scolded, but told like, yo,

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 4>you leave that alone. Like if someone's not ready to

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 4>say whatever, you leave it alone. And I just kind

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 4>of feel like, do we need to be mindful and

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying I mean, I never seen that scene

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.880
<v Speaker 4>with Drew talking about Ty before. You know, I've heard

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.360
<v Speaker 4>my things that I've heard as well, but I never

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.360
<v Speaker 4>saw that. So I was never gonna say anything about

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 4>it until I saw that scene because to me, that

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 4>scene confirmed it. Ye that she set it on camera.

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:51.919
<v Speaker 4>So if she said it on camera, that's something that

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 4>she's okay with us knowing. Right, But like, I just

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 4>feel like, is there a different set of standards when

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 4>it's a girl, Like, is it like we are we

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.760
<v Speaker 4>being extra hard on her because it's a woman.

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.199
<v Speaker 5>Oh No, it's the opposite. It's the polar opposite. She

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 5>can go ahead. She's married to a man. People perceive

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 5>her as a heterosexual woman to the world. That's why

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 5>there's so much scuttle but and conversation around her alleged

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 5>bisexual tryst with Tie and whoever else she may have

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.360
<v Speaker 5>been involved with. Right, But she can go on from

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 5>that live a very happy life with a man in

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 5>a relationship.

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 3>We see it replicated time and time again.

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 5>If a man, however, admitted to having some sort of

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 5>sexual experience with another man is forever he's got the

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 5>scarlet letter for the rest of his life, so it's

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 5>actually it's the opposite.

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.880
<v Speaker 4>No, No, I agree what you're saying with that part. Sure,

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.439
<v Speaker 4>one thousand percent. Once a man, I mean, you know,

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 4>I definitely work with people that are definitely never been

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 4>comfortable with that. I get it. I mean as far

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 4>as it's like forcing her to admit it, forcing her

0:24:58.480 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 4>to admit it, like, no, you need.

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 2>You mean in the constructs of reality television.

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you need to say. I totally agree with

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 4>what you're saying. Doesn't about when a man admits to that,

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:11.679
<v Speaker 4>he's he has a scarlet letter for the rest of

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 4>his life. And there's a lot of women I will

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 4>never date a guy that's my set. I get all that.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.719
<v Speaker 4>But I'm saying, as far as like really being pressed

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 4>to admit it, we want you to tell us and

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 4>admit it on television in this reality show. Do you think,

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 4>like as I hear a lot of people talking about

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 4>this with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Scandal, No, And I'll say this to you.

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Dothin did a very good point of explaining the juxtaposition

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>between Kyle Richards and what is being said about Drew

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:40.640
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 2>In Drew's defense. In Drew's big defense.

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>We have not seen Drew and Tie photograph together hanging

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>out backstage at ties w A. You know what I mean, Like,

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>like Kyle and Morgan have been seen together in very

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>intimate saties and let's have a real conversation here. Kyle

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>did a music video with Morgan where they simulated kissing

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and were this closed and never touching lips.

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>So in Drew's defense, that wasn't the case.

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the difference, Claudia, as as you

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>asked a really good question. The reason why we have

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.679
<v Speaker 1>the audience is like, Kyle, if you are lesbian, that

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>is your choice, but you're gonna stop playing our face.

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 4>She's taunting, toying with me with it appears.

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>That way the music video assimulating it.

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 2>It was sort of like, what are you doing here?

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 1>And y'all got matching tattoos together, Claudia, they're filming.

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 2>They were filming together.

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>They talked about how they first met, and I think

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>that's the reason why we wanted more. I think the

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>thing with Drew, and that's why I was like, Ralph,

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>if that is your truth you guys on a reality show,

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, But I think when you are exposing anyone's sexuality,

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a woman or a man or they it

0:26:55.560 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>is dangerous territory because that is that on persis comfortability

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to be able to do it. And I'm not going

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to go dark here, but a lot of bad things

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>can happen to a person who's not ready to say that,

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>regardless of what ch'all may talked about, because he said

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>out of his own mouth, she said it to me,

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:20.679
<v Speaker 1>Ralph bro it's a difference that she said it to

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.959
<v Speaker 1>you and not the world, so bors Moore did.

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 4>Weren't they having problems before those allegations about him disappearing

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 4>or was it Flora like all that time? And he's

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 4>trying to like it was that's what made them most

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 4>men and he seems like the guy to be like, oh,

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm with this, let me jump in, you know, if

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 4>that's the case, But like, wasn't he missing and doing

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 4>a lot of fun shit before that?

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 5>They came onto the show with very obvious issues in

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 5>their marriage that they were vulnerable enough and brave enough

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 5>to share with us, right, So that was not the

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 5>straw that broke the Camels back from the viewers perspective,

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 5>but Ralph definitely said that that was the reason why

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 5>he filed, which was the very direct question that Shmia

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 5>asked him. So for him, maybe that was it, you

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying. I also think that Ralph, it

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 5>just it felt so it just did not land well

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 5>with the viewers. And I think it was because Ralph

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 5>was obviously motivated by you know, a he was coming

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 5>from a place of it being like, this is my

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 5>time to say what I got to say because Drew's

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 5>not let me film. I don't have anything else any

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 5>other reason the film. They invited me here, I'm about

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 5>to say what I have to say. And that's why

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 5>his guns were really blazing during that conversation. And it's

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 5>a sad way to go out to me, but that's

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 5>what I believe that I saw.

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 4>It's one thing where you don't have kids, like together,

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 4>like you know, portion of time and right or whatever. Right,

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 4>it's one thing we don't have kids. But then when

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 4>you have kids and like you're on TV and a

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 4>medium that's going to live forever, right, Honestly, kids can

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 4>act as social media and all that kind of stuff.

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 4>And see your dad saying that's about her mom. Their

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 4>mom where and I'm sure the mom has not had

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 4>a chance to have that kind of conversation with those babies,

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like, I just think that

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 4>was just kind of stink like that. Ralph, I like,

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, you're you're playing nasty now you're you're there's

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 4>other ways to handle this, I.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Think, Yeah, No, her people hurt others and that's what

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I got from it.

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the show. I want to transition into Angela Oakley. Okay,

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>So Alay has several investments investment properties, excuse me, and

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>one of them, she invited Portia to to play tennis

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>because she said that because Portia made that comment about,

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the husband situation, she didn't feel she didn't

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 1>want her to come to her house, right, which to me,

0:29:56.240 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's funny because I was right, and

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and that to.

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Me is like fun shade. So I really thought that

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 2>was hilarious.

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>So they're playing tennis and in this moment, Angela decides

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to sit Porsia down and really talk to her about

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>her friend Shamia. Angela decided to reveal that she drew

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and Shamia had a conversation where Shamia mentioned some of

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the issues that she does have with Porsia. In this conversation,

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Angela told Porsche that Shamia is mad at you for

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>not attending her wedding, and not only that that you

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>supposedly did not want her to join the show The

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Real Housewives of Atlanta, which by the way, I loved

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>it with shows break the fourth wall because we as

0:30:56.440 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the audience, we were stabbing enough to know give us

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>all the information that we're able to to really understand

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the root of it. Porscha breaks down in tears, cover

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>her face with a fan, and decides to leave Dustin

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>and Claudia.

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>What were your thoughts on that entire exchange.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:19.719
<v Speaker 3>First of all, great scene.

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 5>Angela was holding court literally on that tennis court running

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 5>the show.

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to my friend Carrie.

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 5>It's Carrie on Twitter who said that our h o

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 5>A and it sends for Real Housewives Oakley Comma Angela,

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:34.959
<v Speaker 5>okay because this is her season.

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh Carrie, Yes, I love him. Hi Carrie, I'll follow him.

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>He's amazing.

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 3>We fuck with you, Carrie.

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 5>But that that that was just an example. Angela masterfully right,

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 5>got the most emotion we've seen out of Porsche all season.

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 5>Angela pulled it out of on that tennis court, putting

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 5>that fan in front of her face like that and

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 5>not being able to continue in the scene and it

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:05.719
<v Speaker 5>reaching an emotional place that broke that barrier, that shield

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 5>that Porscha's been filming with all season, which is creating

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 5>the disconnect between her and her fans. We want to

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 5>know your emotions. We want to know how you feel

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 5>about Simon giving you hell. We want to know you

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 5>know what the real deal on you and Shemia's relationship

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 5>is because we've seen it for many, many years. Remember,

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 5>Shemia has been appearing on this show as a friend

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 5>of since season five, so she's not a new character

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 5>the court. To the core viewership of this show. We

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 5>know the history. We remember seeing Faedro do like this,

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 5>We remember seeing Faedro do that, saying that Shemiah alluding

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 5>to her, alleging that Shemiah was having a sexual relationship

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 5>with Candy and Todd and it wasn't true. We remember

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 5>all of those things, so we know the breaks that

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 5>have taken place in the friendship of Porsche and Shemiah,

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 5>and we.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Want to see it.

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 5>Another point, I want to make Angela might have first

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 5>share at that reunion. Carlos, You've talked about the importance

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 5>of that. She's been the focus. She's instrumental to several

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 5>of the stories that are taking place this season. Okay,

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 5>and based on the midseason trailer, she got some more

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 5>big ass moments to come. Angela might take that first

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 5>season first chair spot at the reunion opposite Porscha, So

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 5>it'll be good to see.

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 4>I didn't see tears. I saw a fan in front

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 4>of a face, and I've been around lots of girls

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 4>with fake tears, and until I see water streaming down

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 4>your face, I'm not buying it. I felt like she

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 4>knew at that point, I'm looking really bad right now

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 4>and I'm going to cover my face and I just

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 4>can't continue. She thinks I think she's my laptop girl.

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 4>Bye girl, by listen. I know bad acting when I

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 4>see it because I do it all the time on

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 4>to be so I'm not buying one went bar Away

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 4>shot the whole family. I know bad acting. Portray girl,

0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 4>I'll see you. We see each at that. No no, no, no,

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 4>no no no. Angela was very very brilliant for not

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 4>letting Porsche come to her house after what Porsche did

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.879
<v Speaker 4>with Fallin at Fallon in Simon's house. So I thought

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 4>that was super dope and it was also like a

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 4>callback to that season when that happened. You can't show

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 4>me that that being called, being deemed that you feeling

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 4>like your friend thinks that she's your lapdog would make

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 4>you that upset. And then in the next scene at

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 4>the Panther by Porsche thing, you were so cold to

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 4>your friend. It's it's the mathe math, and I'm not

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.760
<v Speaker 4>buying it, and I'm not quick to just give passes

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 4>on that. I'm sorry I called BS when I see BS,

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 4>and I agree with you. Angela just the way she's

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 4>moving like she goes right to the edge, but then

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 4>but not enough where she's being messy or inappropriate. She

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 4>holds the girls accountable and she makes them explain and

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 4>she makes some answer and then she tells the truth.

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 4>I do feel like Shemia did need a push. I

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 4>do think that the problem with Shemia and Porsche's friendship

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 4>dynamic is an balance of power. I think that Shemia's

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 4>esteem self esteem is not low, but lower than Porscha's, right,

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 4>so she probably feels like Porscha's like the big dog

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 4>and she's like, you know, she's in her shadow a

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 4>little bit. Whether no matter how many times we tell

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 4>Shemia how beautiful she is, how dope she is, she

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 4>gotta going on, I think internally she feels less than

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 4>and I think Porsha plays a hand in that by

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 4>the way she dismisses Smia's feelings. It seems, you know,

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:30.919
<v Speaker 4>you can see that there's an imbalance of power there,

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 4>that it feels like one's here and one's there, when

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 4>really they're probably more like this.

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's so funny because so many people, so

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 5>many of us right have that takeaway from watching them

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 5>on the show. But the minute you just take a

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 5>step into like their social media accounts or any glimpse

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 5>into the real lives that these ladies lead, Shemiah is

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 5>by she is in no way a subordinate to Porscha

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 5>in real life. I think that we are as viewers,

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 5>just met Porscha first, and we're quite literally introduced to

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 5>Shamiah as Porsha's friend.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 3>But now that they have even footing on the show.

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 5>I think it is a bit of a culture shock

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.879
<v Speaker 5>for Porsha I think there's some resentment and jealousy there

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 5>and just some things that she's gonna have to face,

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 5>truly identify and accept and work through. Because the way

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 5>she did Shamiah when she was previewing her single at

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 5>the bank at that Vauda Angela's dinner, in addition to

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 5>a myriad of other instances where we felt like Porscha

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.760
<v Speaker 5>was not the best friend to Shamiyah, it's a reckoning time.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 5>So we're going to see now, We're going to see

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 5>people like Angela Oakley, people like Kelly Farrell. They are

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 5>having conversations with Samiyah that are forcing her to say

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.320
<v Speaker 5>some shit out loud that she hasn't said out loud before.

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 5>And if Porscha reacts to that, it's gonna tell immediately

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 5>who she's always been in that friendship. You'll be able

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:53.280
<v Speaker 5>to tell immediately by her reaction.

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 4>So I do like about this season that there are

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 4>women that I don't think that Kelly and Angela are

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.240
<v Speaker 4>actually coming from a mean place. I think in past

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 4>seasons you may have seen people carrying bones back to

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 4>get a scene to be messy. It does feel like

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 4>they're actually trying to give to me a like real

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 4>girl kind of girl, the girl women and women kind

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 4>of advice, like girl, like, you know, say something, speak

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 4>up for yourself and not it doesn't feel like mean spirited.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.800
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't feel like they're just trying to get a scene.

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 4>So I do like that about this season. And I

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 4>know people like to say I'm a POORTI hated listen.

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 4>I like holding people accountable. I'm not saying anything different

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 4>than than Angela Oakley, Okay, but she's just saying it

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.399
<v Speaker 4>better and smoother and cuter, you know, and with less

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 4>cuss words. But she's like, I agree with how she's moving,

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 4>She's seeing things, She's coming to a new friend group

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 4>and saying, wait, hold on, this don't seem right. This

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 4>ain't sitting right with me. And I think there's nothing

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 4>wrong with calling that out. You can call people out

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 4>and that does not mean you're being a hater. Because

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 4>if someone is not evolving from their past bad behavior

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 4>and still moving in the same way and not really learning,

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 4>then until they stop them, we gonna stop. Can't stop.

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 4>I won't stop. I'm just saying we're just you know,

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 4>we're calling it out. And I would like to see

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 4>like her like evolved Porscha. I mean, I think I've

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 4>said it before, y'all. I think she's adorable. She has

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 4>a body of tea, she's funny, and when she's in

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 4>her like fun bag and not being a mean girl,

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 4>Porsche is a fun time. But all this stuff that

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 4>she's doing that she got when she kind of got bigger,

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 4>is making her less appealing. The thing that we liked

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 4>about it where she was like kind of like that dinghy,

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 4>kind of naive, kind of came off kind of I

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 4>don't know any better her oh two hundred and sixty

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 4>five days in a year. We laughed with her like

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 4>we laughed at her, but we also laughed with her too,

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 4>and it made her more charming. This mean girl thing

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 4>does not work for her. It's not cute. It's not cute.

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I want to because one thing about our

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>conversation that's very different than other people who recap the

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>shows is we do sort of go deeper when it

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:57.240
<v Speaker 1>comes to the nature of some of this behavior. Somebody

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>in the comment said something that I want to I

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>want to address because I with them, Shamia, and.

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 2>It's also something you brought on to Claudia.

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:12.240
<v Speaker 1>There's a power dynamic let's be rid, let's have a conversation.

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>There is a power dynamic in Shamia.

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>And portious friendship, just like there was a power dynamic

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>in Nini and Cynthia's friendship. Yeah, and and Claudia, it

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.919
<v Speaker 1>doesn't you two clocked it, because I didn't think about

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>that until tonight, until you two said it.

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Angela and Kelly.

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they made sure to bring out shamia in securities

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>to the forefront because they.

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Were moving story along.

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And they also want to in a weird way, and guys,

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 1>stay with me on this. In a weird way, Angela

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and Kelly were trying to empower Samia to stand up

0:39:55.960 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>for herself and and and and I thought it was

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>something so interesting to watch because I remember producing Atlanta

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Housewives and Claudia, you were their season seven. All of

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the girls wanted Cynthia to wake up and and this

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>is their.

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Words, not mine, right, Claudia. A lot of those girls

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 2>were like.

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Cynthia, Nini called your husband a bitch. It looks like

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>your Nini's lap dog. Are you afraid of Niini? It

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 1>was something that Cynthia had to deal with and the

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>beauty of Cynthia. Years later, she admitted this on my podcast,

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 1>so listen to that. She said, because I came on

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the show with Niini, I felt indebted to her. She

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>was my friend and and I thought I was just

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>being a genuine friend by like, this woman is my

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>friend on the show, so I'm a ride for her.

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't until she got out of the cloud of.

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>The show that she was able to sort of see

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the dynamic shifting. I think for Shamiah and Portia's friendship,

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:06.919
<v Speaker 1>and I want all three of us to be real,

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>especially Claudia, not that you're not real, but you have

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of female friends, and I want to hear

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot from you.

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I know that in some friendships there are power dynamics.

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in friendships there are queen bees, let's be real,

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>And especially in female friendships, there are queen bees. And

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.399
<v Speaker 1>when I say queen bees, what I mean by that

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 1>is every friend group has one person who is sort

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of like the leader, right, and then everyone else falls

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>in line. Not that they're submissive or weak, it's just

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>it's the dynamic of their friendship. That I have a

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 1>friend group where that's the case in my friend group.

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Years later, I've been in all types of friend groups,

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>my current friend group, it is that way. And one

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>of my friends recently said to me, and I thought

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>it was so funny. We've been friends for like fifteen

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>years and he said the sem a three weeks ago.

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>He said, Bitch, I want you to know I have

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>no problems being Carlos Kings plus one.

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Baby, I'm here for it. I want all the perks

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 2>that comes along.

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>With being your friend. Bitch, I want you to know

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I am jealous of you. I don't want your life,

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>but baby, I want the perks. And we got a

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>good laugh at it because he is so confident in

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>his own looks, in his own career.

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 2>He's not in the in the industry.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>But I thought it was interesting because it showed that

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>we could talk about the elephant in the room and

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>not be somebody that that's not able to address it.

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:42.959
<v Speaker 1>And I think the thing is this, and let's be real,

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>it is challenging, and Claudia, I want to get your

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this. Porscha is the star of her friend group, right,

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that Smiah is less of a star.

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 1>And because Porscha and Shamiah grew up together, one person

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>career accelerated to the high heavens and another person didn't as.

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Big as Portia's.

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think what Shamia is craving for, and I

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>will love to ask her this, but I think what

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Shamia's craving for is some acknowledgement of I am now

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>here and I want us to be together in this

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think I think she probably feels afraid to

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>have that conversation because she's afraid of the response. So,

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Claudia and your female friendships, would you say that's the

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>case in terms of like this subtle hierarchy that is

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>left unsaid.

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's true, But I feel like, you know, when

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.280
<v Speaker 4>in my friend groups, I will say I'm in that position,

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 4>and that's not in a cocky way. A lot of

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 4>them didn't know each other until I introduced them. So

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 4>like my birthday trip, there was twelve of us and

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 4>they all made toast to me, right, and they all

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 4>the one thing they all said was you brought us

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 4>all together. Does that mean I'm the most successful of

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 4>the group. Absolutely not. Tracey Evans was there any Alanza's there,

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 4>she's on SWAT, she's you know these that countless My

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 4>friend's chancey runs to businesses. They are That doesn't mean

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm better than them, richer than them, more beautiful than them.

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 4>It does not mean that in a I brought them

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.440
<v Speaker 4>all together so they was like some I have some

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 4>history with all of them, and I'm usually the initiator

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.919
<v Speaker 4>of hey, let's all go to a rube, Well let's

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 4>all do this. But there's two types of women, right.

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 4>There's some that love being in the Beyonce role, and

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 4>they they like they kind of can look down. Not

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 4>that Beyonce does that, but I'm saying the obvious star, right,

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 4>and then they're they're they're not conscious of it. They

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 4>don't even realize like they're being rude or whatever. I

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 4>feel like, because I feel like I'm in that role

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.399
<v Speaker 4>with my friends, I go extra out of my way

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 4>to big up my friends extra to make it feel

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 4>like I know, I wanted to feel like it's here,

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.919
<v Speaker 4>and then it's here. If anything, it's here, and it's

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 4>here like damn, it are the same. The only thing

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 4>I have not even over them, is I initiate us

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.399
<v Speaker 4>getting together. But I think that some women you learn

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 4>a lot from, You learn a lot about a person

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 4>by who they surround themselves with. A confident woman will

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 4>surround ourselves with other women, more beautiful, more successful, and

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 4>then get more attention than them and be totally fine,

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 4>like that's my dog right there, we here together. Insecure

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.760
<v Speaker 4>women will want to be the star of their group

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 4>and surround themselves with women they know they don't get

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 4>as much attention, don't have it as pope as them,

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 4>And that tells you all you need to know about

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 4>that friend circle and how they probably treat each other,

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 4>and how one's probably gonna feel a little less than

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 4>I think that. I think it's nothing more powerful than

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 4>a group of women that are very closely yoked, equally yoked,

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 4>or even different kinds of yo hi yokes us, and

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 4>they all exist in harmony. I just think that with

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 4>I think that I'm not saying Poorsia purposely does that

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.240
<v Speaker 4>touch me in but you can tell that one feels

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 4>more above and one feels my below.

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm with Claudia on this one. I think there's

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 5>definitely a way to responsibly be a leader in a

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 5>friendship circle or a leader in a friendship group if

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 5>you're a person who has more acts. First of all,

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 5>we can start with personality, right. Some people just have

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 5>larger personalities they're willing to go first and speak up

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:34.360
<v Speaker 5>first and do things first, and so they naturally assume

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 5>that leadership role. I got a huge motherfucking personality, and

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't mind taking the lead in my friendship circles

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 5>that by no means indicates me looking at them less

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 5>than or anything like that. First of all, I love

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 5>the fuck out of all of my friends, and I

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 5>ride for mine. All my friends know that. It's no secret,

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:56.760
<v Speaker 5>no question. Number two, I celebrate my friends just because

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 5>I have a certain type of job or I have

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 5>certain access to different environments and different shit. They have

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 5>incredible professional lives as well, and they have big personalities

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 5>as well, and we celebrate each other. We lift each

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 5>other up. There's a way to be the responsible leader,

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:12.320
<v Speaker 5>and there's a way to be the friend of a

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 5>leader as well. That's responsible. That does not include jealousy

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 5>or ego or stupid ass issues that will arise from

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 5>ego and jealousy. There's no place for that in friendship. So,

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 5>if you're a leader, if you're a person who does

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 5>assume their role for whatever reason, and you give a

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 5>fuck about your friends, you care about their emotions and

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 5>how they're made to feel, you're always aware of that,

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 5>and you're not gonna kiss their ass or go do

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 5>things in a way that makes them feel even more different.

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 5>But you're gonna make sure that they're celebrated. You're gonna

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 5>make sure that you do the things that come naturally anyway.

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 5>So to me, it boils down to the authenticity of

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.840
<v Speaker 5>the friendship. If you really riding and you're prime example,

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 5>Carlos and Claudia, I've known both of y'all for years.

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 5>You have both worked in entertainment for years prior to

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 5>the little shit.

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 3>That the things that I do.

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 5>Now, you know what I'm saying, I've never felt like

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.399
<v Speaker 5>little dog, they're like little you know what I'm saying.

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 5>I've never felt that way, And I've always had a

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 5>tremendous amount of respect for the things that you all

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 5>have done, your accomplishments. It just goes back to the

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 5>root of the friendship. So what we're watching on TV

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 5>is because there are some fundamental cracks in their friendship

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 5>that are directly related to ego, to jealousy, to sharing

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.959
<v Speaker 5>the spotlight, to not speaking up. You know what I'm saying,

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 5>You have to really show up one hundred percent in

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 5>a friendship in both extremes that we're seeing in the

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 5>friendship of Shamia and Porsche. Both of them could have

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 5>done a better job being honest with each other. Both

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 5>of them could have done a better job prioritizing their relationship.

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 5>But from what we've seen on the TV, Porsche has

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.359
<v Speaker 5>not been as good of a friend to Shamiya as

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 5>we've seen Shamiah be to Porsha.

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 4>That's it for me and putting my I try to

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:03.239
<v Speaker 4>put myself in people's shoes, and for Portia, I understand

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 4>in a way how she may feel. Right, this is

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 4>my area, this is where I like, this is my

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 4>thing that I have my show. And then when my

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 4>friend comes along that you know, maybe you little little

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 4>maybe you do little dog or a little sister, I

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:18.399
<v Speaker 4>don't know, but she comes along and like the first

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 4>few weeks, like everyone was like Samia Shamia, Shmia, I

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 4>could see how someone that's not that I could see

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 4>all that she would feel like you're encroaching on my territory,

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. Not that it's right or

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:32.840
<v Speaker 4>not that it's wrong. I'm just saying I could just

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 4>be I just just be sympathetic to how she may feel.

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, and maybe if she's not that secure, maybe

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 4>she feels like someone's encroaching upon the thing that I

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 4>have over you, or the thing that I have the

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 4>one thing that's mine. This is my area. Not that

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 4>it's right, but I could see it.

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 5>I just think you even using the words over you,

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 5>like the thing I have over you, just to me

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.399
<v Speaker 5>that that is the thing right there in her mind.

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 5>That's what I'm saying, like the fact that that even

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 5>exists me personally, I'm not gonna be around nobody that

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 5>I can't trust. To me, that's the number one way

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 5>to be not safe. You hear crazy ass true crime

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 5>stories all the time about the best friend who was

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 5>really jealous or whatever.

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 3>The fuck. The minute I see any indication.

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:17.279
<v Speaker 5>Of jealousy or snake ass behavior, any of that type shit,

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:20.320
<v Speaker 5>you'll never hear from me again, real shit, because that's

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:23.360
<v Speaker 5>a safety issue at that point, and it's no place

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 5>for that sort of perspective in real friendship. To me,

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:30.359
<v Speaker 5>it's no way that Porsche should have ever. I don't

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.359
<v Speaker 5>care what we don't know she actually felt like this.

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:35.319
<v Speaker 5>We're judging based on what we've been seeing, on what

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 5>we've been shown on the show, Right But to me,

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 5>there's no way that she should have ever felt like

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 5>this show was something that a person, a motherfucker she

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 5>brought on the show. You know what I'm saying, can't

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 5>be a part of We wouldn't even know Samia as

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:50.360
<v Speaker 5>your friend. Un Listen, you didn't bring her on the

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 5>damn show, Porsche. So for you to have that idea

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.360
<v Speaker 5>that you don't want to share in that way or

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 5>share the spotlight, that's kind of fucked up to me,

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 5>Like that ain't what a good friend looks like.

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>This is what the reason why this episode's my favorite

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>is because these are the type of topics I want

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to talk about because it's relatable.

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 2>It's relatable to the friendships, whether.

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>It's gays, girls, men, these are relatable topics. And I

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 1>think bafe on what happened at Porscha's event, Right, So

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Porscha learns this information and she decides not to talk.

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 2>To Shemi about it. Right, all the girls are at

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 2>the event, and then.

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Kelly, Kelly decided to tell Shmiah, like, look, just so

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Angela told Portia what you said about her,

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and we you know, I know, we pinky swar, you know,

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>which that's not the greatest thing right to say, I'm

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you all something about pinky swear. I think

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing is this, The difference between a Beyonce and

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Kelly is this Beyonce and Kelly both were in the

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>group together, and Beyonce as the lead singer, so she

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 1>always by position literally positioned, was always two steps ahead

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>of the rest of the girls in the group. Right,

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>But they both had a dream of startup. And what

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I would like to know from Porsche and Shamia? And

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 1>this is just me being real. Did Shamia ever tell Porsche, right, hey,

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I really want to be a housewife?

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Can you put me on? Because you know what I mean?

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Like if me and Dustin, me and you are boys,

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and and and and this happened to me.

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 2>In my life. Thank you, Dustin, Save me, Lord Jesus.

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Where somebody assumed that I didn't give much to them,

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and I said, how am I supposed to know you

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted this? If you didn't tell me, like you're walking

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:51.479
<v Speaker 1>around here mad at me, Well you should have get

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 1>you you. I wanted some camera time too, if you

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>would have told me, I would say, Okay. Me and

0:52:56.760 --> 0:53:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Dustin met as friends. I met as a fan of Dustin. Right,

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I was a fan of Dustin's reviews and his acting

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 1>skills alongside Justse Smilett Honey. So I was a fan

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>of Dustin and me and Dustin friendship developed because of

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>just me admiring his skill set. And then when I

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.759
<v Speaker 1>was doing all this stuff with his YouTube channel, I

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously know you had a podcast, and I said, you

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.240
<v Speaker 1>want to help my my YouTube and recap some stuff

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 1>with me. And when people start to like Dustin so

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 1>much so, Claudia, let's talk about real friendship. Some people

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:34.080
<v Speaker 1>would say Dustin needs to host a reunion instead of Carlos.

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Kick Carlos off and have Dustin do it.

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 1>I never once kicked Dustin off of my channel because

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>he was getting all this attention.

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 2>If anything, I embraced it because at.

0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>The end of the day, I'm not We're not just

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>with each other, but we also have a real friendship.

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:49.879
<v Speaker 1>And I know Dustin's dreams and I'm here to help

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Dustin fulfill all his dreams that.

0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm able to do. Stay thin with you, Claudia.

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 1>People, you got Claudia on your show, kick her off,

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I like her recapping Atlanta Housewives, says

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to me. Y'alln't gotta like it, but I think it

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:05.719
<v Speaker 1>makes sense and I'm here to help Claudia live about

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:10.640
<v Speaker 1>her dreams. I am curious in real life, did Shamia

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 1>ever tell Porsche I would like to be an Atlanta housewife?

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Can you put in a word?

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>And if Shamiah never told Porsha, how is it Porsia's

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:27.720
<v Speaker 1>fault that she didn't give her a recommendation? If Shamia

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 1>never said that to her, and that's the conversaituation they

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 1>should have.

0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna say this and let y'all cook.

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 1>When Shamiah was put on the spot to address it,

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I saw a little girl afraid to speak up for herself.

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And I felt so bad for Shamiah because I want

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:51.640
<v Speaker 1>to go deep with Shamiah. I need to know what

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 1>was Shamiah told in her childhood. Whereas a grown woman,

0:54:56.200 --> 0:55:01.280
<v Speaker 1>she has this visible fear of telling her truth.

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 2>And I felt really, really sad for her.

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 4>Didn't she say on the show though? Or didn't? Okay,

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:10.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm seeing people say that. Also. Candy brought her on

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:15.560
<v Speaker 4>the show as well, but didn't shouldn't admit that she

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 4>did see evidence that Porscha did in fact, make a

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 4>recommendation the show. So to Porscha's credit, she did. She did,

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.240
<v Speaker 4>she did recommend her. But but there's one thing you recommend,

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, and you recommend someone with something, but then

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 4>people really embrace them like you may not think they're

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.440
<v Speaker 4>gonna embrace them like that. You're like, oh, yeah, you

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 4>come on the show, it's all good, But then they

0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 4>saw giving you lots of love. Maybe there's that, But Porsche,

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.360
<v Speaker 4>you're still a star. Like listen, no matter what I

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:41.720
<v Speaker 4>say about you, my critique of some of your behavior,

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:44.320
<v Speaker 4>you're still a star. Like, no one's taken your shine

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 4>away with you. You have a huge fan base, You

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 4>have lots of opportunities people like you have a lot

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.279
<v Speaker 4>of people that do like you. Even with your you know,

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 4>your little messes, you do like you never have to worry.

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.719
<v Speaker 4>I've worked with a really big personality one time that

0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:59.879
<v Speaker 4>like would be so intimidate, not intimidate, bothered by people

0:55:59.920 --> 0:56:03.240
<v Speaker 4>that we're nowhere near his level of fame or wealth,

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:06.280
<v Speaker 4>and it was mind blowing, Like you, how much further

0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 4>have to go to be on that level? Like you're good,

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 4>but there are some people that are bothered by just

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of Shine getting away from I'm not

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 4>saying that's Portia's case, but Portia did recommend her for

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 4>the show.

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:21.280
<v Speaker 5>She did has been recommended several times. Candy has spoken

0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 5>at lengths about how she fought for many seasons to

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:28.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, she advocated, catered for Sama to be a

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:28.880
<v Speaker 5>part of this cast.

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 5>Another note I think that we need to speak about

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 5>related to the Porscha, Shamia and Angela of it all right.

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Again, they got mad at Candy.

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:42.600
<v Speaker 5>For her speak on the videos over the years, right,

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:44.799
<v Speaker 5>and they felt like she was dragging the cast. But

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 5>those speak on the videos are now turning out to

0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:50.400
<v Speaker 5>be a great resource and a great time stamp for

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 5>what the fuck has happened. So Marlowe was on Speak

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 5>on It a couple seasons ago and she spoke about

0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.319
<v Speaker 5>this was when this was season thirteen, when they went

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:02.680
<v Speaker 5>to New Orleans and all that shit was going on.

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 5>There was an I remember Big Freeda came on the

0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 5>show and there was an argument at the table. Marlow

0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 5>speaks at length and Candy speak on the video about

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 5>Samia getting upset with her. If you remember, at that table,

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 5>Samiah was chiming in and she was nailing Marlow at

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 5>that table, and it was because there had been another

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 5>conversation off camera, just like the one that had taken

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:28.720
<v Speaker 5>place in this season where Marlow said Marlow and Shamia

0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 5>were arguing and Marlow said something about Samia's husband. According

0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 5>to Marlow, this is straight out of Marlow's mouth to Candy,

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 5>Marlow said something about Samia's husband in some capacity, and

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 5>apparently Shemia said like, he wouldn't want you, and Marlow was.

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Like, yo, man, hell fuck me. If he'll fuck you,

0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:46.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, he'll fuck me.

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 5>And Shemiah was highly offended by that, and you can

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 5>see in her disposition in the scenes that followed at

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:55.680
<v Speaker 5>the table and all that other shit, that that was

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 5>a real issue for her. So a lot of people

0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 5>have been sharing that clip and comparing and contrasting it

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:06.720
<v Speaker 5>to Shemia's nonchalant nature. When Angela expressed to her that

0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 5>she was upset about what she over, her porschas saying

0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:12.600
<v Speaker 5>off camera, might I add you know what I'm saying

0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:14.680
<v Speaker 5>about Angela's husband.

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know. I think that.

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 5>I just think that there's deeper issues going on here

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 5>when they're showing themselves as who they really are to

0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:33.840
<v Speaker 5>each other. Remember the conversation that went on about Charles

0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 5>and and what Porscha said that was off camera, So

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 5>those ladies were that was not for the show. That

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 5>was not you know, conversation to move story along or

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 5>say something to antagonize Angela. That was really real shit

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 5>that they was kicking outside that pool. That was real

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 5>feelings they were sharing that weren't really for the show

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 5>or for our consumption. So it just makes you think

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 5>on a deeper level, like what's really going on here?

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying. And I think that's why

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 5>people have started to this resounding conversation about holding this

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 5>person accountable or holding that person accountable.

0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 3>But that flows flat on me because.

0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 5>As soon as Cynthia held Kenya accountable, y'all was on

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:15.520
<v Speaker 5>her ass for weeks saying she was a horrible friend

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 5>of Kenya, she was a bad friend of Kenya. She

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:21.040
<v Speaker 5>should have did this different, she shouldn't have said that.

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 5>So at this point, I'm just enjoying the show. If

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 5>the conversations happened on camera and we can make some

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 5>sort of determination based on that, that's it. That's what

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm doing, because when it comes down to True Blue accountability.

0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 5>When it comes down to a person really standing on shit,

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't land the way that we think it would

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<v Speaker 5>on the fans. So that's why you don't play to

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<v Speaker 5>the fans. And that's why I don't even read the

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<v Speaker 5>comments because I feel like it's a place for people

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<v Speaker 5>to share their thoughts. It's not a place to seek

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<v Speaker 5>inspiration or to use as a compass when you're performing

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<v Speaker 5>as a part of these casts. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>another part of the disconnect when it comes to their

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<v Speaker 5>friend and shit, because the fans have a lot to

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<v Speaker 5>say about their friendship and that history.

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<v Speaker 4>Two things also, Shamia's husband didn't want her to go

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<v Speaker 4>on the show, right, there's that. And one thing we

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<v Speaker 4>are forgetting about in regards to Porsha and Shia's friendship

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<v Speaker 4>is Shamiah didn't even know why Porsche didn't come to

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<v Speaker 4>her wedding. That was that had to be like wait, what,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just finding this out now, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 4>holding things in for years Like that is like you

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<v Speaker 4>not telling me, I don't know, this is bananas, Like

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<v Speaker 4>if you're not coming to my wedding even though I

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<v Speaker 4>had three however, that had right as my bestie I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna need to know that day what the reason is.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to know right away. You know, that's got

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<v Speaker 4>to be you know that was that was deep. That

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<v Speaker 4>moment right there, that was pretty deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into that because one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>was said was Porscha told Shama, then I go to

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<v Speaker 1>your wedding because we weren't speaking pretty much speaking, and

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<v Speaker 1>Shamiyah said she never knew that, and that she was

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<v Speaker 1>told something about her, something about not being able to

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<v Speaker 1>fly and the comfortability of it. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>black Twitter child, Black Twitter loves of receipt.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why, to Edessa's.

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<v Speaker 1>Point, when you are on these shows, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>like remember what you say. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>Claudia Jordia one of the things was in a previous season,

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<v Speaker 1>Porcha said she didn't go because I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>something dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>Blood clots or something.

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<v Speaker 4>On the plane with.

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<v Speaker 5>The Philippines, Porscha said she couldn't get a seat of

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<v Speaker 5>first class flight and it was a long flight because

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<v Speaker 5>remember Candy and Carman were laughing at the table that

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<v Speaker 5>was in the heat of their disagreement, and they were

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<v Speaker 5>laughing about not being able to recline on the plane

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<v Speaker 5>and and that being her reason for not going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeh, so the fans saw that. So it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where could two things?

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<v Speaker 2>Could two things be true?

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<v Speaker 1>Or did y'all feel like what you said, Claudia, This

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<v Speaker 1>friendship is so fractured that they don't have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to be real with each other based on the whatever's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Seems like Portia's dismissive of Shemia, like, yeah, whatever, get

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<v Speaker 4>over it. You know, if I can make it, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>make it. And then I it feels like Shamia is

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<v Speaker 4>afraid to, like really call to the carpet if my

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<v Speaker 4>best friend's not making one of my three weddings, or

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<v Speaker 4>if I wedding to however many I want answers, and

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<v Speaker 4>I would hold them accountable because I don't feel inferior

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<v Speaker 4>to my best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>She went to for the record portrait that go to

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's convenient. I mean, if I just got to

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<v Speaker 4>drive down the street, drive up eighty five, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal. That's not a big sacrifice. I need

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<v Speaker 4>you to get on a plane. You my bestie. And

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<v Speaker 4>if I said I'm an offer to BUYO ticket. HEFA,

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<v Speaker 4>you better be there. I'm just saying, but I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like that may feel like not being able to communicate

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<v Speaker 4>with someone that you do love. They do, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>they love each other, right, That's got to be a

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<v Speaker 4>horrible feeling, like feeling like you can't really say until

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<v Speaker 4>you had the nudging of two women you kind of just.

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<v Speaker 5>Met, which at that point, the other person is obviously

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<v Speaker 5>going to be in defense mode. Right If we're now

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<v Speaker 5>discussing some deep, deeply buried, deep rooted, deep seated issues

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<v Speaker 5>at the behest of some people that we really don't

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<v Speaker 5>even know, like that, you know what I'm saying, Porscha

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<v Speaker 5>is automatically going to be on defense mode, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>why we're seeing the breakdown that we're seeing right now

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<v Speaker 5>in their friendship. Since the airing of this episode on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 5>Shamia is done press I saw her doing some inner.

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<v Speaker 5>She did watch What Happens Live on Sunday and spoke

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<v Speaker 5>very clearly and plainly about her disappointment and the breakdown

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<v Speaker 5>of her friendship with Porsche, and she said that Andy

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<v Speaker 5>asked her what she pausing or stopping, and she said,

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<v Speaker 5>at this point she is the friendship. So Shamia is

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<v Speaker 5>being more vocal now than she's ever been about it,

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<v Speaker 5>and she has definitely been empowered from whatever source or

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<v Speaker 5>for whatever reasons to speak her truth. I really enjoy

1:04:11.560 --> 1:04:15.400
<v Speaker 5>Shamia on this show. Seeing her as a housewife has

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<v Speaker 5>been great for me. I'm happy to see her on camera.

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<v Speaker 5>I think she's got a great, big personality that translates

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<v Speaker 5>well into television. And I like Shamia on this show.

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<v Speaker 5>I've always felt like Shamiah was wronged with that Phaedrus

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<v Speaker 5>shit and the Candy situation, So seeing her in this arc,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm enjoying it. I want to see more of it,

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<v Speaker 5>and I also respect friendship. So no matter what my

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<v Speaker 5>personal opinion is on who's right or wrong, we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>A twenty plus year of friendship from.

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<v Speaker 5>When they was kids, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>that's something that you covered and you revere. Sometimes that

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<v Speaker 5>reverence has to start in the midst of a breakdown

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<v Speaker 5>or be you know, it has to be derived from

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<v Speaker 5>a breakdown sometimes, So maybe they can fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping the best, but this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is how I feel destined.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because you grew up with somebody as kids or

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers and you guys were the best of friends as teens.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that doesn't translate when you are grown. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people stay friends because of the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the years they've known each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna be honest here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being very honest when I say this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know Atlanta I lived there for years. Portia Shamia as

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<v Speaker 1>adult women are not in the same friend group, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they both should talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see them being friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're friends because of the history of the number.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Shamia in real life has our own group

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<v Speaker 1>of friends, and Portia in real life has our own

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<v Speaker 1>group of friends. I think they will always have. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping this a respectful relationship, but I've been one thousand percent.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not the same type of chicks. They're just not.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think somebody has to say it like I

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<v Speaker 1>did growing up. Me and you, Yes, we known each

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<v Speaker 1>other since we were this age, but in my forties

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<v Speaker 1>we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not the same but different people, and it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay. I don't think portion Shamia should be friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, they're not the same woman. They have two

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<v Speaker 1>separate friend groups. They it's obvious, but they gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>that tough conversation with each other, just like how Nini

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<v Speaker 1>and Cynthia. On Nini's Leaks podcast watch it, she interviewed Cynthia.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the I love the interview because Nini and

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<v Speaker 1>Cynthia both said, I'm paraphrasing that we like who we

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<v Speaker 1>are today. We won't ever be back like we were,

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<v Speaker 1>but if we stumble upon each other at dinner, we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk.

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<v Speaker 2>But gone are the days of Nanni.

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<v Speaker 1>And Cynthia talking on the phone ten times a day,

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<v Speaker 1>all the days of them going on vacation together. But

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<v Speaker 1>they can coexist and get a good key, key, have

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<v Speaker 1>a cocktail, keep a movement. I think Shuni and Porsche

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<v Speaker 1>needs to have that level of prenticeship.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree. And also people change. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no secret that Porsia's sister also felt away about

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<v Speaker 4>how she's been treated by her as well, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean. So it's not like this is an

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<v Speaker 4>isolated incident, and maybe she's changed, maybe the fame from

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<v Speaker 4>you know, she definitely blew up, you know, and some

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<v Speaker 4>people act differently to us people. You can't start treating

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<v Speaker 4>people like they're your assistant or they're you know, hold

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<v Speaker 4>my bag, take my picture, you know, all that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff, you know. And sometimes if fame comes quickly,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes it makes people kind of like, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of be filmed themselves and be a little bit, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, unconcerned about other people's feelings, are a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit colorblind to it, where you don't even like notice

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<v Speaker 4>that you're doing it, you know, because all the everybody

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<v Speaker 4>else is fawning over you and fans and whatever you need.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you start treating people that are close to

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<v Speaker 4>you like there's a help not saying she's doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just a hypothesis, hypothetically speaking. But you know, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and nostalgia is not enough of a reason to stay

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<v Speaker 4>friends if it's hurting you both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So all right, So next week, Dustin, Claudia, Smia,

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<v Speaker 1>and Portscha have their famous well infamous, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>sit down. So we will be back next week and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that in the rest of the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But thank you to so much for another great recap.

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<v Speaker 1>Claudia, you are on tour, honey, not cowboy Carter, but

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<v Speaker 1>cop Boy, Claudia last let them know what you got

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Baby. We were in Indianapolis, Chicago for two shows in

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<v Speaker 4>Saint Louis. Just got to Atlanta today. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>in Greensboro on Thursday, Atlanta shows on Saturday, and then

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<v Speaker 4>Charlotte on Sunday. I'll be in Atlanta all week. I

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<v Speaker 4>actually had a long conversation with Cynthia yesterday. We talked

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<v Speaker 4>for like over an hour. We get to catch up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad we got to talk about a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of things like shout out to you, Cynthia, I love you.

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<v Speaker 4>That was fantastic. And she's like, I've be seeing with y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, you're built for that. I love what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>She likes the commentary and all of that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's busy with that. Also, I really have to say

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<v Speaker 4>on this Wednesday on my podcast with Erica cop we

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<v Speaker 4>just got a huge booking. You know, I'm a political nerd,

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<v Speaker 4>but we have the Minority Speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffreys,

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<v Speaker 4>joining us all of it. Yes, we're talking about messaging

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<v Speaker 4>of the Democratic Party, the things that Trump is doing,

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<v Speaker 4>and just a lot of things that. I am so

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<v Speaker 4>excited to please tune in this Wednesday Live on I'm

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<v Speaker 4>accidentally informed with myself and Erica Cop it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>a big shot for us.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, I love that. And dust is also on tour,

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<v Speaker 2>so Dustin, you have many.

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<v Speaker 3>Dates a dude.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, God is good and he told me you can

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<v Speaker 5>talk to shit, so I get to go. You know

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying. I'm very excited. Tickets are available now.

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<v Speaker 5>Go to Dustin rosslive dot com and you can have

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<v Speaker 5>access to tickets to all the shows. We're kicking things

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<v Speaker 5>off May twenty fourth in Pittsburgh. May thirty first, we'll

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<v Speaker 5>be in Seattle and then there's a litany of other

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<v Speaker 5>cities listed as well, So please.

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<v Speaker 3>Come out and laugh. We're gonna have a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can't wait to.

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<v Speaker 5>See everybody on the road and shout out to everybody

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<v Speaker 5>who's already purchased tickets.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get so.

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<v Speaker 5>Many tweets and dms and shit from people who bought

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<v Speaker 5>tickets and it really warms my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you, and I'm excited come see me.

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<v Speaker 4>I love seeing good people winning YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you my friends, Same to you, same you love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yes, Robert Allen said, tell Dustin how sexy he

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<v Speaker 1>is to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Team Shami.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Robert Allen, and yes I am Team Shamid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, all right, well, thank you, Jasin Banking, Claudia.

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<v Speaker 1>I will see y'all next week.

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