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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the

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Speaker 1: King of Reality TV and one of the most sought

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Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years

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Speaker 1: a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,

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Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,

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Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that

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Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about.

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Speaker 2: Rain droves.

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Speaker 1: We are here to talk about the most recent episode,

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Speaker 1: episode ten.

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Speaker 2: I believe yes, episode ten.

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Speaker 1: It was called Meditation and Mediation I believe was the

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Speaker 1: episode title of the latest episode of the Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta. Before we get started with our recap and

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Speaker 1: diving into the conversation, I will say this, this was

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Speaker 1: my favorite episode of the season. I love this episode

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Speaker 1: and the reason why I love this episode is because

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Speaker 1: every scene.

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Speaker 2: Mattered.

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Speaker 1: When I say mattered. It was nice to see Kelly

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Speaker 1: with her girls. It was nice to see Angela in

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Speaker 1: her investments properties and really speak about being in depth

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Speaker 1: two million dollars in depth based on her investments.

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Speaker 2: Like that honesty.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and obviously we get into the other conversations.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of this episode. It was my favorite

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Speaker 1: for those reasons. But I want to start off by

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Speaker 1: talking about let's just get into it. It's the scene

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Speaker 1: that sort of kicked off this episode, which was.

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Speaker 2: Because I, you know, being told.

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Speaker 1: That my facial expressions give a lot away and I am.

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Speaker 2: Going to have all my shade glasses so that.

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Speaker 3: You need a layer. You need a layer, right bro?

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Speaker 2: Because of it? Okay fall weather gap, Okay, Look.

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Speaker 1: Shamia met with Ralph ralph Is Dreu Sidoras, a strange

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Speaker 1: husband who lives in the basement. They are going through divorce.

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Speaker 1: On top of that, Porsche also walked in. And I'm

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Speaker 1: being very honest when I say this, it was hard

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Speaker 1: to watch that scene.

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Speaker 2: From from a It was hard to watch it because

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Speaker 2: it just didn't feel good. It didn't feel good. I'm

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Speaker 2: just being I'm being I'm being very honest, and it

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Speaker 2: didn't feel good to watch it because.

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Speaker 1: One thing I've learned producing The Real Hospitals of Atlanta

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Speaker 1: season six, and this is this is coming from an

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Speaker 1: openly gay man who has never been married. But one

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Speaker 1: thing that I've learned from season six and obviously later

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Speaker 1: in life creating Lemon Marriage franchise is the sanctity of marriage,

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Speaker 1: and how when it comes to married couples there is

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Speaker 1: this sort of rule you have when you.

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Speaker 2: Are interfacing with someone's wife or husband.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I brought up season six is

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Speaker 1: because that was the season where Pedra and Kenya have

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Speaker 1: this big beef about Kenya texting Apollo. Now, to Apollo's credit,

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Speaker 1: years later on my podcast Thank You very Much, he

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Speaker 1: admitted that he lied that Kenya wanted him. He admitted

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Speaker 1: he lied right, So Kenya's been vindicated now when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Kenya texting him regardless, and Kenya admit it

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Speaker 1: on camera she was wrong for texting him in hindsight

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Speaker 1: and she texted him thank you, thank you, babe. I

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Speaker 1: think it was I learned through that season how you

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Speaker 1: just can't on camera, on camera be seen with someone's

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Speaker 1: And I remember us going to Mexico and Phedra told

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Speaker 1: Kenya she wanted to slap was it the dog pits

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Speaker 1: out of her mouth or something, Dustin or Claudia, because

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Speaker 1: because in Mexico, her and Candy walked in and she

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Speaker 1: saw King get Apollo talking.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 2: I remember that, and I was I was there for that.

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Speaker 1: So to watch that scene in this recent episode. It

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Speaker 1: was hard for me to watch because of the history

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Speaker 1: of it and on top of the fact that, let's

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Speaker 1: have a real conversation. We know that Porscha is not

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Speaker 1: happy with Drew based on Drew filming with.

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Speaker 2: Dennis, so it was hard to watch. It was hard

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Speaker 2: to watch, but we'll love to get your thoughts on it.

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Speaker 4: Shame on Smiya and Porsta and I actually liked Samiyah.

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Speaker 4: I do then playing our faces like they met up

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Speaker 4: and oh, Porsia happened to stop by. No, y'all are

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Speaker 4: best friends. Y'all ca calculated that, y'all set that up.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go film a scene with with with Ralph

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Speaker 4: to pay back Drew. I will say this, The difference

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Speaker 4: between the two groups is when Drew and Dennis are filming,

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Speaker 4: we see them in a music and working capacity for

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Speaker 4: the most part, right, Like, I ain't seen them trashing.

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Speaker 4: They're not dragging Porsche. I've not seen that. I've not

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Speaker 4: seen that. But the entire lunch with Shamiah, Porsche and

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Speaker 4: Porscha would have been better served if she never did

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Speaker 4: about I really stand on the fact that I don't

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Speaker 4: want you filming with my my ex. I think it's

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Speaker 4: wrong because to then go and film with someone who

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Speaker 4: a strange current, a strange husband. You know, you just

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Speaker 4: canceled out your complaint. Actually you made yourself look worse.

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Speaker 4: And I think she should she could have done without

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Speaker 4: that scene. I think she did herself no favors in

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Speaker 4: that scene. It was messy, it was mean, and it

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Speaker 4: was like playing in our face, like, oh, I didn't know,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I just felt like they set that

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Speaker 4: you know, Like and Ralph, I'm gonna speak to you, Ralph,

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Speaker 4: Dennis isn't letting Drew talk. She's not talking greasy about

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Speaker 4: Porsche to Dennis. That's not happening, right. But with Ralph,

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Speaker 4: that is the mother of the kids. You may not

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Speaker 4: like her anymore, love be in love with her anymore,

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Speaker 4: with Drew anymore, but that is still the mother of

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Speaker 4: your kids. And you're meeting up with basically her ops

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Speaker 4: at this point, and you're allowing the shit talking about

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Speaker 4: real raggedy Ralph. I think that was whack and I

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Speaker 4: felt I too, was like this, this doesn't feel good.

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Speaker 4: It did not feel good to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what did not feel good about the

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Speaker 5: scene was the dishonesty about the intention of it.

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Speaker 3: Right for me, it ain't that deep.

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Speaker 5: Porscha, you mad at Drew because she filmed with Dennis,

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Speaker 5: so you fielm with Ralph to get her back full stop.

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Speaker 5: It was that simple, right, I think that? And okay,

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Speaker 5: you know Shemiah said that she was meeting up with

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Speaker 5: Ralph to discuss his podcast or something or whatever he

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Speaker 5: had coming up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, his podcast Kings and Queen's Corps. I believe something

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Speaker 1: along those lines.

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Speaker 5: I wish him much success as a person who has

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Speaker 5: been podcasting for over ten years. I won an NAACP

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Speaker 5: Image Award for podcasting and not in the shit talking category.

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Speaker 5: I wanted in best News and Information category, so as

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Speaker 5: a legitimate voice in the podcasting space. They didn't discuss

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Speaker 5: anything about producing a podcast at that table, and I

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Speaker 5: think that that is the part that fellas lit the

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Speaker 5: that Porscha could come film with Ralph. You know, it

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Speaker 5: doesn't help with the allegations that she is incessantly appearing

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Speaker 5: in a supportive role or supportive capacity in her friendship

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Speaker 5: with Porsche. That's why people say that shit, because you

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Speaker 5: do things like allow her, at least in our view,

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Speaker 5: to go unscathed with being disrespectful about your song to

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Speaker 5: Shamiah about her song, and just not being what most

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Speaker 5: people consider a good friend to be. But then Samiah

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Speaker 5: eagerly stepped right into the mess and set up a

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Speaker 5: dinner with Ralph and film with him. Porscha was in

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Speaker 5: at that dinner table, moving Ralph's fingers, and you know,

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Speaker 5: it was different things that she was doing to directly

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Speaker 5: antagonize Drew. And I ain't mad about it, because if

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Speaker 5: that's where they're at in their relationship, so be it.

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Speaker 5: But just say that shit. It would have been so

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Speaker 5: much better to see portion in her confessionals, like her

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Speaker 5: ass was feeling with my baby daddy, I'm finna go

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Speaker 5: film with Ralph.

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Speaker 3: We're going to dinner.

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Speaker 5: And then she sat down and her and Shamiah ordered

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Speaker 5: all that food and them drinks and they laugh.

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Speaker 3: Just stand in it. We all know what it was like.

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Speaker 5: Just stand in it. That's where I was at with

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Speaker 5: it and Ralph. Since we're speaking about Ralph, Ralph, think

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Speaker 5: about sometimes you have to zoom on and look at

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Speaker 5: the big picture. Ralph is on this show in a

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Speaker 5: subordinate capacity. He's Drew's estranged husband. His only experience getting

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Speaker 5: is presented or appearing in some capacity connected to Drew.

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Speaker 5: Right now, they ain't fucking with each other. He's in

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Speaker 5: the basement, she's upstairs. The only chance he gets to

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Speaker 5: What better position as an opt than to link up

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Speaker 5: thing is just stand in it and say it. Y'all

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Speaker 5: not meeting to discuss no damn podcasts, y'all mean up

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Speaker 5: because all of y'all, including Samia, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: they really don't fuck with Drew like that, And so

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Speaker 5: my thing is just say it.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: I have to agree with you, and you hit the

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Speaker 1: I think if on the onslaught right, if if Shami

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Speaker 1: and Porscha devised this scheme and had a very girlfriend moment,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like and would have been

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Speaker 1: silly with it, like let's dress up as like private

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think if the to your point that, if the

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Speaker 1: intention of the scene was pay back to the bitch,

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Speaker 1: call me karma, I think we all would be like,

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Speaker 1: oh my, y'all being petty. If this is Housewives, let's

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Speaker 1: be petty. I actually agree with you. I think if

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Speaker 1: it was made, I think if it was colored to

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Speaker 1: is you feel in my mom you know, I think

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Speaker 1: we all would have been like I then go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I actually agree with you with that, because to talk

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Speaker 1: But to have wrapped, as Shamilla say, we're meeting about

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Speaker 1: a podcast because Samia appeared on one episode of a podcast,

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Speaker 1: I think it was insulting the intelligence of the audience.

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Speaker 1: And if it was what we just said it was,

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Speaker 1: I think they would have been more forgiveness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was corny. That was corny, and there was

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Speaker 4: I didn't see that one moment of magic between Shemiah

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Speaker 4: a podcast with them. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: I like Shmia's speaking voice. I want to hear more

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Speaker 2: She does.

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Speaker 5: She doesn't sound like Drew, who can sing too, but

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Speaker 5: they have distinctly different voices.

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Speaker 4: Porsche, she she doesn't and I like and I do

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Speaker 4: like her for the most part, but I don't like

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Speaker 4: the way she's been moving the last two episodes. I

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Speaker 4: The respondent is the one who responds. So you said

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Speaker 1: So I was like, damn, Like Claudia a journalist, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait where are these?

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Speaker 4: How many you have got wardrobe dreams?

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Speaker 5: He got that drawer glasses like Sanford and Son, remember

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Speaker 5: Rial Fox. You soafing that drawer with all them glasses

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: I love a faith prop Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, Claudia, apparently you have done your research, So do

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Speaker 4: I don't have the time, but I also have some

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Speaker 4: And she said no, And I asked Dennis to clear

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Speaker 4: That's the truth. Said. She has screenshots of it, and

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Speaker 5: Well, why she says she ain't never kissed the girl?

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Speaker 4: What she probably did like about that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Bravo, it's good for right running at

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Speaker 5: the beautiful bee footage. You know what I'm saying. They

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Speaker 5: I've never kissed the girl, and we'd be like Drew

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Speaker 5: right because I love her on this show. But it

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Speaker 4: Ready to be out it and we have we respecially

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Speaker 4: our gay brother. Maybe she wasn't ready to be out

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying, which we don't know if she's is

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do want to touch on that briefly too, because listen,

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's and I don't.

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Speaker 4: Think she's a lost I'm not calling her lesbian.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no no no no no no no no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the comment that I would saying, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I was saying that based on what was aired and

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Speaker 2: And and it was that I again.

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Speaker 1: There, there's there's several reasons why that scene was hard

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Speaker 2: Now, look, I don't know who who who Drew is

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't know who she is as a wife

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Speaker 1: they're still.

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Speaker 2: Married legally than we all do. But I think for me.

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Speaker 1: It was it was hard to watch him mention that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I divorced her because she allegedly was with top right,

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Speaker 2: Wives as Minglee's girlfriend or a strange friend?

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Speaker 4: And please look on Tie's opportunistic ass, okay, trying to

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Speaker 4: I don't care if you get mad about me saying this,

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Speaker 4: because I already said it before, and I'm saying it

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Speaker 4: with my whole chest. Just tall to me and you

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Speaker 4: got muscles, but we ain't gonna be at the same parties.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you are going from different reality shows

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Speaker 4: So I'm sorry, Carlos, but I have strong feelings about that.

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Speaker 4: I told me me about Tie the moment I first

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Speaker 4: and I just think she's very opportunistic, like every girlfriend

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Speaker 4: and man everybody you mess with is like on TV.

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Speaker 4: Really okay, sorry, and I digress, so allegedly Drew now

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Speaker 4: ming Lee, who else? Who else? Maybe that's three in

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Speaker 4: like how many years now? If I was with three

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Speaker 4: basketball players, y'all call me the biggest hole. Y'all do

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Speaker 4: call me the biggest hole? And I had sections damn

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Speaker 4: not in twenty twenty five. And okay, keep the same energy,

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Speaker 4: that's all I'm saying. Opportunistic time, freaky time, shoot and

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Speaker 4: shot at the basket and at.

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Speaker 2: The so Claudia, Uh, I was wing.

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Speaker 3: Claudia is best friends with MEMI. Man, that's how she feels.

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Speaker 3: How she feels dust. I'll just listen.

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Speaker 5: This is that's women ship. I ain't got nothing to

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Speaker 3: Bro. You already know.

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Speaker 4: They said Claudia might have to ask brit for her

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Speaker 4: pistols so she don't get me basketball?

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Speaker 2: Y'all are we we want we involving that? So look, Hi,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to break this up. Uh Claudia spit fire

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Speaker 2: during receipts. Maybe you are well.

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Speaker 1: I I really am intrigued. When they flashed back to

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Speaker 1: another world and I'm in Pluto with Gail King and

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Speaker 4: That that was a scamming the line they did not.

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Speaker 1: Send the spaceship. Okay, okay, I'm back on Earth. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Gail King and Katy Perry. All right, look, okay, I'm back.

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Speaker 1: So when Ralph intimated that he filed for divorce because

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Speaker 2: When I needed her.

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Speaker 2: So when you.

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Speaker 5: That confirmation I didn't even need in my From my perspective,

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Speaker 5: Candy spoke as plainly as she could about what she

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Speaker 5: at that reunion season fifteen, she said somebody had dropped

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Speaker 3: And the message.

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Speaker 5: They passed the messages around at the reunion and read them,

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Speaker 5: and I will never forget Candy and Kenya were looking

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Speaker 5: and Candy was like, do we be texting like that?

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Speaker 5: Do I send you stuff like that? So everybody felt

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Speaker 5: that way. Ralph came on and said that, like Claudia

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Speaker 5: has made a great point earlier, maybe Drew's not ready

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Speaker 5: better to the audience if she would say that as

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Speaker 5: opposed to know I didn't or no, I'm not, just

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Speaker 5: say I don't want to talk about it right now,

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Speaker 5: like Kyle Richard's be saying, they threatened, They asked Kyle

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Speaker 5: all the time. You know what I'm saying, what's up

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Speaker 5: with you in Morgan you guys fucking around or whatever?

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Speaker 3: And she never says no.

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Speaker 5: She never says slides for years, slide, two years, now, slide.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation.

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Speaker 1: I love Kyle Richards, baby, but let's clock it.

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Speaker 5: So that's what it is. But that's also the difference.

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Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying, That's the difference. Drew says, No,

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Speaker 5: Kyle just says when I'm ready, not right now.

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00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm not.

437
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 4: Obviously I'm not in the community. I'm in no community

438
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 4: right But when people have talked to me and educating

439
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 4: me about it, about outing people and all that kind

440
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 4: of stuff, like I've been told, not scolded, but told like, yo,

441
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 4: you leave that alone. Like if someone's not ready to

442
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: say whatever, you leave it alone. And I just kind

443
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 4: of feel like, do we need to be mindful and

444
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I mean, I never seen that scene

445
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 4: with Drew talking about Ty before. You know, I've heard

446
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 4: my things that I've heard as well, but I never

447
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 4: saw that. So I was never gonna say anything about

448
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 4: it until I saw that scene because to me, that

449
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 4: scene confirmed it. Ye that she set it on camera.

450
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 4: So if she said it on camera, that's something that

451
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 4: she's okay with us knowing. Right, But like, I just

452
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 4: feel like, is there a different set of standards when

453
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: it's a girl, Like, is it like we are we

454
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 4: being extra hard on her because it's a woman.

455
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 5: Oh No, it's the opposite. It's the polar opposite. She

456
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 5: can go ahead. She's married to a man. People perceive

457
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 5: her as a heterosexual woman to the world. That's why

458
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 5: there's so much scuttle but and conversation around her alleged

459
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 5: bisexual tryst with Tie and whoever else she may have

460
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 5: been involved with. Right, But she can go on from

461
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 5: that live a very happy life with a man in

462
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 5: a relationship.

463
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: We see it replicated time and time again.

464
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 5: If a man, however, admitted to having some sort of

465
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 5: sexual experience with another man is forever he's got the

466
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 5: scarlet letter for the rest of his life, so it's

467
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 5: actually it's the opposite.

468
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 4: No, No, I agree what you're saying with that part. Sure,

469
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 4: one thousand percent. Once a man, I mean, you know,

470
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 4: I definitely work with people that are definitely never been

471
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 4: comfortable with that. I get it. I mean as far

472
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 4: as it's like forcing her to admit it, forcing her

473
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: to admit it, like, no, you need.

474
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: You mean in the constructs of reality television.

475
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you need to say. I totally agree with

476
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: what you're saying. Doesn't about when a man admits to that,

477
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 4: he's he has a scarlet letter for the rest of

478
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: his life. And there's a lot of women I will

479
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: never date a guy that's my set. I get all that.

480
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, as far as like really being pressed

481
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 4: to admit it, we want you to tell us and

482
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 4: admit it on television in this reality show. Do you think,

483
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: like as I hear a lot of people talking about

484
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 4: this with this.

485
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: Scandal, No, And I'll say this to you.

486
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: Dothin did a very good point of explaining the juxtaposition

487
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: between Kyle Richards and what is being said about Drew

488
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: right now.

489
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: In Drew's defense. In Drew's big defense.

490
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: We have not seen Drew and Tie photograph together hanging

491
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: out backstage at ties w A. You know what I mean, Like,

492
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: like Kyle and Morgan have been seen together in very

493
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: intimate saties and let's have a real conversation here. Kyle

494
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: did a music video with Morgan where they simulated kissing

495
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: and were this closed and never touching lips.

496
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: So in Drew's defense, that wasn't the case.

497
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's the difference, Claudia, as as you

498
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: asked a really good question. The reason why we have

499
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: the audience is like, Kyle, if you are lesbian, that

500
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: is your choice, but you're gonna stop playing our face.

501
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: She's taunting, toying with me with it appears.

502
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: That way the music video assimulating it.

503
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: It was sort of like, what are you doing here?

504
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: And y'all got matching tattoos together, Claudia, they're filming.

505
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: They were filming together.

506
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: They talked about how they first met, and I think

507
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: that's the reason why we wanted more. I think the

508
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: thing with Drew, and that's why I was like, Ralph,

509
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: if that is your truth you guys on a reality show,

510
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: that's fine, But I think when you are exposing anyone's sexuality,

511
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: whether it's a woman or a man or they it

512
00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: is dangerous territory because that is that on persis comfortability

513
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: to be able to do it. And I'm not going

514
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: to go dark here, but a lot of bad things

515
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: can happen to a person who's not ready to say that,

516
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: regardless of what ch'all may talked about, because he said

517
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: out of his own mouth, she said it to me,

518
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: Ralph bro it's a difference that she said it to

519
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 1: you and not the world, so bors Moore did.

520
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: Weren't they having problems before those allegations about him disappearing

521
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: or was it Flora like all that time? And he's

522
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: trying to like it was that's what made them most

523
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: men and he seems like the guy to be like, oh,

524
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: I'm with this, let me jump in, you know, if

525
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 4: that's the case, But like, wasn't he missing and doing

526
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 4: a lot of fun shit before that?

527
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 5: They came onto the show with very obvious issues in

528
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 5: their marriage that they were vulnerable enough and brave enough

529
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 5: to share with us, right, So that was not the

530
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: straw that broke the Camels back from the viewers perspective,

531
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 5: but Ralph definitely said that that was the reason why

532
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 5: he filed, which was the very direct question that Shmia

533
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 5: asked him. So for him, maybe that was it, you

534
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I also think that Ralph, it

535
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 5: just it felt so it just did not land well

536
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: with the viewers. And I think it was because Ralph

537
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 5: was obviously motivated by you know, a he was coming

538
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 5: from a place of it being like, this is my

539
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 5: time to say what I got to say because Drew's

540
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 5: not let me film. I don't have anything else any

541
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 5: other reason the film. They invited me here, I'm about

542
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 5: to say what I have to say. And that's why

543
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 5: his guns were really blazing during that conversation. And it's

544
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: a sad way to go out to me, but that's

545
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 5: what I believe that I saw.

546
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: It's one thing where you don't have kids, like together,

547
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: like you know, portion of time and right or whatever. Right,

548
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: it's one thing we don't have kids. But then when

549
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: you have kids and like you're on TV and a

550
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: medium that's going to live forever, right, Honestly, kids can

551
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: act as social media and all that kind of stuff.

552
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: And see your dad saying that's about her mom. Their

553
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: mom where and I'm sure the mom has not had

554
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 4: a chance to have that kind of conversation with those babies,

555
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I just think that

556
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: was just kind of stink like that. Ralph, I like,

557
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: you know, you're you're playing nasty now you're you're there's

558
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: other ways to handle this, I.

559
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: Think, Yeah, No, her people hurt others and that's what

560
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: I got from it.

561
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with

562
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

563
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: the show. I want to transition into Angela Oakley. Okay,

564
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: So Alay has several investments investment properties, excuse me, and

565
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: one of them, she invited Portia to to play tennis

566
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: because she said that because Portia made that comment about,

567
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, the husband situation, she didn't feel she didn't

568
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: want her to come to her house, right, which to me,

569
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: I was like, that's funny because I was right, and

570
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: and that to.

571
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: Me is like fun shade. So I really thought that

572
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: was hilarious.

573
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: So they're playing tennis and in this moment, Angela decides

574
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: to sit Porsia down and really talk to her about

575
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: her friend Shamia. Angela decided to reveal that she drew

576
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: and Shamia had a conversation where Shamia mentioned some of

577
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: the issues that she does have with Porsia. In this conversation,

578
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Angela told Porsche that Shamia is mad at you for

579
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: not attending her wedding, and not only that that you

580
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: supposedly did not want her to join the show The

581
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta, which by the way, I loved

582
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: it with shows break the fourth wall because we as

583
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: the audience, we were stabbing enough to know give us

584
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: all the information that we're able to to really understand

585
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: the root of it. Porscha breaks down in tears, cover

586
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: her face with a fan, and decides to leave Dustin

587
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: and Claudia.

588
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on that entire exchange.

589
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 3: First of all, great scene.

590
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 5: Angela was holding court literally on that tennis court running

591
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 5: the show.

592
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: Shout out to my friend Carrie.

593
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 5: It's Carrie on Twitter who said that our h o

594
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 5: A and it sends for Real Housewives Oakley Comma Angela,

595
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 5: okay because this is her season.

596
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: Uh Carrie, Yes, I love him. Hi Carrie, I'll follow him.

597
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: He's amazing.

598
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: We fuck with you, Carrie.

599
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 5: But that that that was just an example. Angela masterfully right,

600
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: got the most emotion we've seen out of Porsche all season.

601
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 5: Angela pulled it out of on that tennis court, putting

602
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 5: that fan in front of her face like that and

603
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 5: not being able to continue in the scene and it

604
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 5: reaching an emotional place that broke that barrier, that shield

605
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: that Porscha's been filming with all season, which is creating

606
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 5: the disconnect between her and her fans. We want to

607
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: know your emotions. We want to know how you feel

608
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: about Simon giving you hell. We want to know you

609
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: know what the real deal on you and Shemia's relationship

610
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 5: is because we've seen it for many, many years. Remember,

611
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 5: Shemia has been appearing on this show as a friend

612
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 5: of since season five, so she's not a new character

613
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 5: the court. To the core viewership of this show. We

614
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: know the history. We remember seeing Faedro do like this,

615
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 5: We remember seeing Faedro do that, saying that Shemiah alluding

616
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: to her, alleging that Shemiah was having a sexual relationship

617
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 5: with Candy and Todd and it wasn't true. We remember

618
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: all of those things, so we know the breaks that

619
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: have taken place in the friendship of Porsche and Shemiah,

620
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: and we.

621
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: Want to see it.

622
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 5: Another point, I want to make Angela might have first

623
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 5: share at that reunion. Carlos, You've talked about the importance

624
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 5: of that. She's been the focus. She's instrumental to several

625
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: of the stories that are taking place this season. Okay,

626
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 5: and based on the midseason trailer, she got some more

627
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 5: big ass moments to come. Angela might take that first

628
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 5: season first chair spot at the reunion opposite Porscha, So

629
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 5: it'll be good to see.

630
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: I agree.

631
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 4: I didn't see tears. I saw a fan in front

632
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 4: of a face, and I've been around lots of girls

633
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: with fake tears, and until I see water streaming down

634
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: your face, I'm not buying it. I felt like she

635
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: knew at that point, I'm looking really bad right now

636
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: and I'm going to cover my face and I just

637
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: can't continue. She thinks I think she's my laptop girl.

638
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: Bye girl, by listen. I know bad acting when I

639
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: see it because I do it all the time on

640
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: to be so I'm not buying one went bar Away

641
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 4: shot the whole family. I know bad acting. Portray girl,

642
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 4: I'll see you. We see each at that. No no, no, no,

643
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: no no no. Angela was very very brilliant for not

644
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: letting Porsche come to her house after what Porsche did

645
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 4: with Fallin at Fallon in Simon's house. So I thought

646
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: that was super dope and it was also like a

647
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 4: callback to that season when that happened. You can't show

648
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 4: me that that being called, being deemed that you feeling

649
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 4: like your friend thinks that she's your lapdog would make

650
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: you that upset. And then in the next scene at

651
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: the Panther by Porsche thing, you were so cold to

652
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: your friend. It's it's the mathe math, and I'm not

653
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 4: buying it, and I'm not quick to just give passes

654
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: on that. I'm sorry I called BS when I see BS,

655
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 4: and I agree with you. Angela just the way she's

656
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: moving like she goes right to the edge, but then

657
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: but not enough where she's being messy or inappropriate. She

658
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 4: holds the girls accountable and she makes them explain and

659
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 4: she makes some answer and then she tells the truth.

660
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: I do feel like Shemia did need a push. I

661
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: do think that the problem with Shemia and Porsche's friendship

662
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: dynamic is an balance of power. I think that Shemia's

663
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: esteem self esteem is not low, but lower than Porscha's, right,

664
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: so she probably feels like Porscha's like the big dog

665
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 4: and she's like, you know, she's in her shadow a

666
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: little bit. Whether no matter how many times we tell

667
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 4: Shemia how beautiful she is, how dope she is, she

668
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: gotta going on, I think internally she feels less than

669
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: and I think Porsha plays a hand in that by

670
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: the way she dismisses Smia's feelings. It seems, you know,

671
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 4: you can see that there's an imbalance of power there,

672
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 4: that it feels like one's here and one's there, when

673
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 4: really they're probably more like this.

674
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Speaker 5: You know, it's so funny because so many people, so

675
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 5: many of us right have that takeaway from watching them

676
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 5: on the show. But the minute you just take a

677
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 5: step into like their social media accounts or any glimpse

678
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 5: into the real lives that these ladies lead, Shemiah is

679
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 5: by she is in no way a subordinate to Porscha

680
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: in real life. I think that we are as viewers,

681
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: just met Porscha first, and we're quite literally introduced to

682
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: Shamiah as Porsha's friend.

683
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: But now that they have even footing on the show.

684
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: I think it is a bit of a culture shock

685
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 5: for Porsha I think there's some resentment and jealousy there

686
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 5: and just some things that she's gonna have to face,

687
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 5: truly identify and accept and work through. Because the way

688
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 5: she did Shamiah when she was previewing her single at

689
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 5: the bank at that Vauda Angela's dinner, in addition to

690
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 5: a myriad of other instances where we felt like Porscha

691
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 5: was not the best friend to Shamiyah, it's a reckoning time.

692
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 5: So we're going to see now, We're going to see

693
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 5: people like Angela Oakley, people like Kelly Farrell. They are

694
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 5: having conversations with Samiyah that are forcing her to say

695
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 5: some shit out loud that she hasn't said out loud before.

696
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 5: And if Porscha reacts to that, it's gonna tell immediately

697
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 5: who she's always been in that friendship. You'll be able

698
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 5: to tell immediately by her reaction.

699
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: So I do like about this season that there are

700
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 4: women that I don't think that Kelly and Angela are

701
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 4: actually coming from a mean place. I think in past

702
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: seasons you may have seen people carrying bones back to

703
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: get a scene to be messy. It does feel like

704
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: they're actually trying to give to me a like real

705
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 4: girl kind of girl, the girl women and women kind

706
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: of advice, like girl, like, you know, say something, speak

707
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: up for yourself and not it doesn't feel like mean spirited.

708
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like they're just trying to get a scene.

709
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: So I do like that about this season. And I

710
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 4: know people like to say I'm a POORTI hated listen.

711
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: I like holding people accountable. I'm not saying anything different

712
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: than than Angela Oakley, Okay, but she's just saying it

713
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 4: better and smoother and cuter, you know, and with less

714
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: cuss words. But she's like, I agree with how she's moving,

715
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: She's seeing things, She's coming to a new friend group

716
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: and saying, wait, hold on, this don't seem right. This

717
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: ain't sitting right with me. And I think there's nothing

718
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: wrong with calling that out. You can call people out

719
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: and that does not mean you're being a hater. Because

720
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: if someone is not evolving from their past bad behavior

721
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: and still moving in the same way and not really learning,

722
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: then until they stop them, we gonna stop. Can't stop.

723
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: I won't stop. I'm just saying we're just you know,

724
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 4: we're calling it out. And I would like to see

725
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 4: like her like evolved Porscha. I mean, I think I've

726
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 4: said it before, y'all. I think she's adorable. She has

727
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: a body of tea, she's funny, and when she's in

728
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 4: her like fun bag and not being a mean girl,

729
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 4: Porsche is a fun time. But all this stuff that

730
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: she's doing that she got when she kind of got bigger,

731
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: is making her less appealing. The thing that we liked

732
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: about it where she was like kind of like that dinghy,

733
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: kind of naive, kind of came off kind of I

734
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: don't know any better her oh two hundred and sixty

735
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: five days in a year. We laughed with her like

736
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 4: we laughed at her, but we also laughed with her too,

737
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: and it made her more charming. This mean girl thing

738
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: does not work for her. It's not cute. It's not cute.

739
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to because one thing about our

740
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: conversation that's very different than other people who recap the

741
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: shows is we do sort of go deeper when it

742
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: comes to the nature of some of this behavior. Somebody

743
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: in the comment said something that I want to I

744
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: want to address because I with them, Shamia, and.

745
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: It's also something you brought on to Claudia.

746
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: There's a power dynamic let's be rid, let's have a conversation.

747
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: There is a power dynamic in Shamia.

748
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: And portious friendship, just like there was a power dynamic

749
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: in Nini and Cynthia's friendship. Yeah, and and Claudia, it

750
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: doesn't you two clocked it, because I didn't think about

751
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: that until tonight, until you two said it.

752
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: Angela and Kelly.

753
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they made sure to bring out shamia in securities

754
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: to the forefront because they.

755
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: Were moving story along.

756
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: And they also want to in a weird way, and guys,

757
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: stay with me on this. In a weird way, Angela

758
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: and Kelly were trying to empower Samia to stand up

759
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: for herself and and and and I thought it was

760
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: something so interesting to watch because I remember producing Atlanta

761
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Housewives and Claudia, you were their season seven. All of

762
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: the girls wanted Cynthia to wake up and and this

763
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: is their.

764
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: Words, not mine, right, Claudia. A lot of those girls

765
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: were like.

766
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: Cynthia, Nini called your husband a bitch. It looks like

767
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: your Nini's lap dog. Are you afraid of Niini? It

768
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: was something that Cynthia had to deal with and the

769
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: beauty of Cynthia. Years later, she admitted this on my podcast,

770
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: so listen to that. She said, because I came on

771
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: the show with Niini, I felt indebted to her. She

772
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: was my friend and and I thought I was just

773
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: being a genuine friend by like, this woman is my

774
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: friend on the show, so I'm a ride for her.

775
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: And it wasn't until she got out of the cloud of.

776
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: The show that she was able to sort of see

777
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: the dynamic shifting. I think for Shamiah and Portia's friendship,

778
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: and I want all three of us to be real,

779
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: especially Claudia, not that you're not real, but you have

780
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: a lot of female friends, and I want to hear

781
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: a lot from you.

782
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: I know that in some friendships there are power dynamics.

783
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, in friendships there are queen bees, let's be real,

784
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: And especially in female friendships, there are queen bees. And

785
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: when I say queen bees, what I mean by that

786
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: is every friend group has one person who is sort

787
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: of like the leader, right, and then everyone else falls

788
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: in line. Not that they're submissive or weak, it's just

789
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: it's the dynamic of their friendship. That I have a

790
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: friend group where that's the case in my friend group.

791
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: Years later, I've been in all types of friend groups,

792
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: my current friend group, it is that way. And one

793
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: of my friends recently said to me, and I thought

794
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: it was so funny. We've been friends for like fifteen

795
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: years and he said the sem a three weeks ago.

796
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: He said, Bitch, I want you to know I have

797
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: no problems being Carlos Kings plus one.

798
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: Baby, I'm here for it. I want all the perks

799
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: that comes along.

800
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: With being your friend. Bitch, I want you to know

801
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: I am jealous of you. I don't want your life,

802
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: but baby, I want the perks. And we got a

803
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: good laugh at it because he is so confident in

804
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: his own looks, in his own career.

805
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: He's not in the in the industry.

806
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting because it showed that

807
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: we could talk about the elephant in the room and

808
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: not be somebody that that's not able to address it.

809
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is this, and let's be real,

810
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: it is challenging, and Claudia, I want to get your

811
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: thoughts on this. Porscha is the star of her friend group, right,

812
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that Smiah is less of a star.

813
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Right.

814
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: And because Porscha and Shamiah grew up together, one person

815
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: career accelerated to the high heavens and another person didn't as.

816
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: Big as Portia's.

817
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: And I think what Shamia is craving for, and I

818
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: will love to ask her this, but I think what

819
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: Shamia's craving for is some acknowledgement of I am now

820
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: here and I want us to be together in this

821
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: And I think I think she probably feels afraid to

822
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: have that conversation because she's afraid of the response. So,

823
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: Claudia and your female friendships, would you say that's the

824
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: case in terms of like this subtle hierarchy that is

825
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: left unsaid.

826
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: Yes, it's true, But I feel like, you know, when

827
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 4: in my friend groups, I will say I'm in that position,

828
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: and that's not in a cocky way. A lot of

829
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 4: them didn't know each other until I introduced them. So

830
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 4: like my birthday trip, there was twelve of us and

831
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: they all made toast to me, right, and they all

832
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: the one thing they all said was you brought us

833
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: all together. Does that mean I'm the most successful of

834
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: the group. Absolutely not. Tracey Evans was there any Alanza's there,

835
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 4: she's on SWAT, she's you know these that countless My

836
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: friend's chancey runs to businesses. They are That doesn't mean

837
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 4: I'm better than them, richer than them, more beautiful than them.

838
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 4: It does not mean that in a I brought them

839
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: all together so they was like some I have some

840
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 4: history with all of them, and I'm usually the initiator

841
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 4: of hey, let's all go to a rube, Well let's

842
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: all do this. But there's two types of women, right.

843
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 4: There's some that love being in the Beyonce role, and

844
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 4: they they like they kind of can look down. Not

845
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: that Beyonce does that, but I'm saying the obvious star, right,

846
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 4: and then they're they're they're not conscious of it. They

847
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: don't even realize like they're being rude or whatever. I

848
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: feel like, because I feel like I'm in that role

849
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 4: with my friends, I go extra out of my way

850
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: to big up my friends extra to make it feel

851
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 4: like I know, I wanted to feel like it's here,

852
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 4: and then it's here. If anything, it's here, and it's

853
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 4: here like damn, it are the same. The only thing

854
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 4: I have not even over them, is I initiate us

855
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 4: getting together. But I think that some women you learn

856
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: a lot from, You learn a lot about a person

857
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 4: by who they surround themselves with. A confident woman will

858
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 4: surround ourselves with other women, more beautiful, more successful, and

859
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: then get more attention than them and be totally fine,

860
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: like that's my dog right there, we here together. Insecure

861
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 4: women will want to be the star of their group

862
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: and surround themselves with women they know they don't get

863
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: as much attention, don't have it as pope as them,

864
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: And that tells you all you need to know about

865
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: that friend circle and how they probably treat each other,

866
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 4: and how one's probably gonna feel a little less than

867
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 4: I think that. I think it's nothing more powerful than

868
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: a group of women that are very closely yoked, equally yoked,

869
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 4: or even different kinds of yo hi yokes us, and

870
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 4: they all exist in harmony. I just think that with

871
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 4: I think that I'm not saying Poorsia purposely does that

872
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 4: touch me in but you can tell that one feels

873
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: more above and one feels my below.

874
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with Claudia on this one. I think there's

875
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 5: definitely a way to responsibly be a leader in a

876
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 5: friendship circle or a leader in a friendship group if

877
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 5: you're a person who has more acts. First of all,

878
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 5: we can start with personality, right. Some people just have

879
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 5: larger personalities they're willing to go first and speak up

880
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 5: first and do things first, and so they naturally assume

881
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 5: that leadership role. I got a huge motherfucking personality, and

882
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 5: I don't mind taking the lead in my friendship circles

883
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 5: that by no means indicates me looking at them less

884
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 5: than or anything like that. First of all, I love

885
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 5: the fuck out of all of my friends, and I

886
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 5: ride for mine. All my friends know that. It's no secret,

887
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 5: no question. Number two, I celebrate my friends just because

888
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 5: I have a certain type of job or I have

889
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: certain access to different environments and different shit. They have

890
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 5: incredible professional lives as well, and they have big personalities

891
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 5: as well, and we celebrate each other. We lift each

892
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 5: other up. There's a way to be the responsible leader,

893
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 5: and there's a way to be the friend of a

894
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 5: leader as well. That's responsible. That does not include jealousy

895
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 5: or ego or stupid ass issues that will arise from

896
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: ego and jealousy. There's no place for that in friendship. So,

897
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 5: if you're a leader, if you're a person who does

898
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 5: assume their role for whatever reason, and you give a

899
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 5: fuck about your friends, you care about their emotions and

900
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 5: how they're made to feel, you're always aware of that,

901
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 5: and you're not gonna kiss their ass or go do

902
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: things in a way that makes them feel even more different.

903
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 5: But you're gonna make sure that they're celebrated. You're gonna

904
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 5: make sure that you do the things that come naturally anyway.

905
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 5: So to me, it boils down to the authenticity of

906
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 5: the friendship. If you really riding and you're prime example,

907
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 5: Carlos and Claudia, I've known both of y'all for years.

908
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 5: You have both worked in entertainment for years prior to

909
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 5: the little shit.

910
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: That the things that I do.

911
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 5: Now, you know what I'm saying, I've never felt like

912
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 5: little dog, they're like little you know what I'm saying.

913
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 5: I've never felt that way, And I've always had a

914
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 5: tremendous amount of respect for the things that you all

915
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 5: have done, your accomplishments. It just goes back to the

916
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 5: root of the friendship. So what we're watching on TV

917
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 5: is because there are some fundamental cracks in their friendship

918
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 5: that are directly related to ego, to jealousy, to sharing

919
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 5: the spotlight, to not speaking up. You know what I'm saying,

920
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 5: You have to really show up one hundred percent in

921
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: a friendship in both extremes that we're seeing in the

922
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 5: friendship of Shamia and Porsche. Both of them could have

923
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 5: done a better job being honest with each other. Both

924
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 5: of them could have done a better job prioritizing their relationship.

925
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 5: But from what we've seen on the TV, Porsche has

926
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 5: not been as good of a friend to Shamiya as

927
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 5: we've seen Shamiah be to Porsha.

928
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: That's it for me and putting my I try to

929
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: put myself in people's shoes, and for Portia, I understand

930
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: in a way how she may feel. Right, this is

931
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: my area, this is where I like, this is my

932
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: thing that I have my show. And then when my

933
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 4: friend comes along that you know, maybe you little little

934
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 4: maybe you do little dog or a little sister, I

935
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 4: don't know, but she comes along and like the first

936
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: few weeks, like everyone was like Samia Shamia, Shmia, I

937
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 4: could see how someone that's not that I could see

938
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: all that she would feel like you're encroaching on my territory,

939
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Not that it's right or

940
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: not that it's wrong. I'm just saying I could just

941
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 4: be I just just be sympathetic to how she may feel.

942
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: You know, and maybe if she's not that secure, maybe

943
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 4: she feels like someone's encroaching upon the thing that I

944
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: have over you, or the thing that I have the

945
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 4: one thing that's mine. This is my area. Not that

946
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: it's right, but I could see it.

947
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 5: I just think you even using the words over you,

948
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 5: like the thing I have over you, just to me

949
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 5: that that is the thing right there in her mind.

950
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, like the fact that that even

951
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 5: exists me personally, I'm not gonna be around nobody that

952
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 5: I can't trust. To me, that's the number one way

953
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 5: to be not safe. You hear crazy ass true crime

954
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 5: stories all the time about the best friend who was

955
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 5: really jealous or whatever.

956
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: The fuck. The minute I see any indication.

957
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 5: Of jealousy or snake ass behavior, any of that type shit,

958
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 5: you'll never hear from me again, real shit, because that's

959
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 5: a safety issue at that point, and it's no place

960
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 5: for that sort of perspective in real friendship. To me,

961
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 5: it's no way that Porsche should have ever. I don't

962
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 5: care what we don't know she actually felt like this.

963
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 5: We're judging based on what we've been seeing, on what

964
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 5: we've been shown on the show, Right But to me,

965
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 5: there's no way that she should have ever felt like

966
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 5: this show was something that a person, a motherfucker she

967
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 5: brought on the show. You know what I'm saying, can't

968
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 5: be a part of We wouldn't even know Samia as

969
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 5: your friend. Un Listen, you didn't bring her on the

970
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 5: damn show, Porsche. So for you to have that idea

971
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 5: that you don't want to share in that way or

972
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 5: share the spotlight, that's kind of fucked up to me,

973
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 5: Like that ain't what a good friend looks like.

974
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: This is what the reason why this episode's my favorite

975
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: is because these are the type of topics I want

976
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: to talk about because it's relatable.

977
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: It's relatable to the friendships, whether.

978
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: It's gays, girls, men, these are relatable topics. And I

979
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: think bafe on what happened at Porscha's event, Right, So

980
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: Porscha learns this information and she decides not to talk.

981
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: To Shemi about it. Right, all the girls are at

982
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: the event, and then.

983
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: Kelly, Kelly decided to tell Shmiah, like, look, just so

984
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, Angela told Portia what you said about her,

985
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: and we you know, I know, we pinky swar, you know,

986
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: which that's not the greatest thing right to say, I'm

987
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: gonna tell you all something about pinky swear. I think

988
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: the thing is this, The difference between a Beyonce and

989
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: Kelly is this Beyonce and Kelly both were in the

990
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: group together, and Beyonce as the lead singer, so she

991
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: always by position literally positioned, was always two steps ahead

992
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: of the rest of the girls in the group. Right,

993
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: But they both had a dream of startup. And what

994
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: I would like to know from Porsche and Shamia? And

995
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: this is just me being real. Did Shamia ever tell Porsche, right, hey,

996
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: I really want to be a housewife?

997
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: Can you put me on? Because you know what I mean?

998
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: Like if me and Dustin, me and you are boys,

999
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: and and and and this happened to me.

1000
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: In my life. Thank you, Dustin, Save me, Lord Jesus.

1001
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: Where somebody assumed that I didn't give much to them,

1002
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: and I said, how am I supposed to know you

1003
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: wanted this? If you didn't tell me, like you're walking

1004
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 1: around here mad at me, Well you should have get

1005
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: you you. I wanted some camera time too, if you

1006
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: would have told me, I would say, Okay. Me and

1007
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: Dustin met as friends. I met as a fan of Dustin. Right,

1008
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: I was a fan of Dustin's reviews and his acting

1009
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: skills alongside Justse Smilett Honey. So I was a fan

1010
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: of Dustin and me and Dustin friendship developed because of

1011
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: just me admiring his skill set. And then when I

1012
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: was doing all this stuff with his YouTube channel, I

1013
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: obviously know you had a podcast, and I said, you

1014
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: want to help my my YouTube and recap some stuff

1015
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: with me. And when people start to like Dustin so

1016
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: much so, Claudia, let's talk about real friendship. Some people

1017
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: would say Dustin needs to host a reunion instead of Carlos.

1018
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: Kick Carlos off and have Dustin do it.

1019
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: I never once kicked Dustin off of my channel because

1020
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: he was getting all this attention.

1021
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: If anything, I embraced it because at.

1022
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: The end of the day, I'm not We're not just

1023
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: with each other, but we also have a real friendship.

1024
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: And I know Dustin's dreams and I'm here to help

1025
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: Dustin fulfill all his dreams that.

1026
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: I'm able to do. Stay thin with you, Claudia.

1027
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: People, you got Claudia on your show, kick her off,

1028
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I like her recapping Atlanta Housewives, says

1029
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: to me. Y'alln't gotta like it, but I think it

1030
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: makes sense and I'm here to help Claudia live about

1031
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: her dreams. I am curious in real life, did Shamia

1032
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: ever tell Porsche I would like to be an Atlanta housewife?

1033
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: Can you put in a word?

1034
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: And if Shamiah never told Porsha, how is it Porsia's

1035
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: fault that she didn't give her a recommendation? If Shamia

1036
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: never said that to her, and that's the conversaituation they

1037
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: should have.

1038
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this and let y'all cook.

1039
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: When Shamiah was put on the spot to address it,

1040
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: I saw a little girl afraid to speak up for herself.

1041
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: And I felt so bad for Shamiah because I want

1042
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: to go deep with Shamiah. I need to know what

1043
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: was Shamiah told in her childhood. Whereas a grown woman,

1044
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: she has this visible fear of telling her truth.

1045
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: And I felt really, really sad for her.

1046
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 4: Didn't she say on the show though? Or didn't? Okay,

1047
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 4: I'm seeing people say that. Also. Candy brought her on

1048
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 4: the show as well, but didn't shouldn't admit that she

1049
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 4: did see evidence that Porscha did in fact, make a

1050
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 4: recommendation the show. So to Porscha's credit, she did. She did,

1051
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 4: she did recommend her. But but there's one thing you recommend,

1052
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: you know, and you recommend someone with something, but then

1053
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 4: people really embrace them like you may not think they're

1054
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 4: gonna embrace them like that. You're like, oh, yeah, you

1055
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 4: come on the show, it's all good, But then they

1056
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: saw giving you lots of love. Maybe there's that, But Porsche,

1057
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 4: you're still a star. Like listen, no matter what I

1058
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 4: say about you, my critique of some of your behavior,

1059
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 4: you're still a star. Like, no one's taken your shine

1060
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: away with you. You have a huge fan base, You

1061
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 4: have lots of opportunities people like you have a lot

1062
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 4: of people that do like you. Even with your you know,

1063
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: your little messes, you do like you never have to worry.

1064
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 4: I've worked with a really big personality one time that

1065
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 4: like would be so intimidate, not intimidate, bothered by people

1066
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 4: that we're nowhere near his level of fame or wealth,

1067
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 4: and it was mind blowing, Like you, how much further

1068
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: have to go to be on that level? Like you're good,

1069
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 4: but there are some people that are bothered by just

1070
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: a little bit of Shine getting away from I'm not

1071
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 4: saying that's Portia's case, but Portia did recommend her for

1072
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: the show.

1073
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 5: She did has been recommended several times. Candy has spoken

1074
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 5: at lengths about how she fought for many seasons to

1075
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 5: you know, she advocated, catered for Sama to be a

1076
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 5: part of this cast.

1077
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: Right.

1078
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 5: Another note I think that we need to speak about

1079
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 5: related to the Porscha, Shamia and Angela of it all right.

1080
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: Again, they got mad at Candy.

1081
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 5: For her speak on the videos over the years, right,

1082
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 5: and they felt like she was dragging the cast. But

1083
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 5: those speak on the videos are now turning out to

1084
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 5: be a great resource and a great time stamp for

1085
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 5: what the fuck has happened. So Marlowe was on Speak

1086
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 5: on It a couple seasons ago and she spoke about

1087
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 5: this was when this was season thirteen, when they went

1088
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 5: to New Orleans and all that shit was going on.

1089
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 5: There was an I remember Big Freeda came on the

1090
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 5: show and there was an argument at the table. Marlow

1091
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 5: speaks at length and Candy speak on the video about

1092
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 5: Samia getting upset with her. If you remember, at that table,

1093
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 5: Samiah was chiming in and she was nailing Marlow at

1094
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: that table, and it was because there had been another

1095
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 5: conversation off camera, just like the one that had taken

1096
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 5: place in this season where Marlow said Marlow and Shamia

1097
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 5: were arguing and Marlow said something about Samia's husband. According

1098
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 5: to Marlow, this is straight out of Marlow's mouth to Candy,

1099
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 5: Marlow said something about Samia's husband in some capacity, and

1100
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 5: apparently Shemia said like, he wouldn't want you, and Marlow was.

1101
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: Like, yo, man, hell fuck me. If he'll fuck you,

1102
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: you know, he'll fuck me.

1103
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 5: And Shemiah was highly offended by that, and you can

1104
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 5: see in her disposition in the scenes that followed at

1105
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 5: the table and all that other shit, that that was

1106
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 5: a real issue for her. So a lot of people

1107
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 5: have been sharing that clip and comparing and contrasting it

1108
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 5: to Shemia's nonchalant nature. When Angela expressed to her that

1109
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 5: she was upset about what she over, her porschas saying

1110
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 5: off camera, might I add you know what I'm saying

1111
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 5: about Angela's husband.

1112
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think that.

1113
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 5: I just think that there's deeper issues going on here

1114
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 5: when they're showing themselves as who they really are to

1115
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 5: each other. Remember the conversation that went on about Charles

1116
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 5: and and what Porscha said that was off camera, So

1117
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 5: those ladies were that was not for the show. That

1118
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 5: was not you know, conversation to move story along or

1119
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 5: say something to antagonize Angela. That was really real shit

1120
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 5: that they was kicking outside that pool. That was real

1121
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 5: feelings they were sharing that weren't really for the show

1122
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 5: or for our consumption. So it just makes you think

1123
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 5: on a deeper level, like what's really going on here?

1124
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. And I think that's why

1125
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 5: people have started to this resounding conversation about holding this

1126
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 5: person accountable or holding that person accountable.

1127
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: But that flows flat on me because.

1128
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 5: As soon as Cynthia held Kenya accountable, y'all was on

1129
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 5: her ass for weeks saying she was a horrible friend

1130
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 5: of Kenya, she was a bad friend of Kenya. She

1131
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 5: should have did this different, she shouldn't have said that.

1132
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 5: So at this point, I'm just enjoying the show. If

1133
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 5: the conversations happened on camera and we can make some

1134
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 5: sort of determination based on that, that's it. That's what

1135
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 5: I'm doing, because when it comes down to True Blue accountability.

1136
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 5: When it comes down to a person really standing on shit,

1137
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 5: it doesn't land the way that we think it would

1138
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 5: on the fans. So that's why you don't play to

1139
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 5: the fans. And that's why I don't even read the

1140
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 5: comments because I feel like it's a place for people

1141
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 5: to share their thoughts. It's not a place to seek

1142
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 5: inspiration or to use as a compass when you're performing

1143
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 5: as a part of these casts. And I think that's

1144
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 5: another part of the disconnect when it comes to their

1145
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 5: friend and shit, because the fans have a lot to

1146
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 5: say about their friendship and that history.

1147
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 4: Two things also, Shamia's husband didn't want her to go

1148
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 4: on the show, right, there's that. And one thing we

1149
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 4: are forgetting about in regards to Porsha and Shia's friendship

1150
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 4: is Shamiah didn't even know why Porsche didn't come to

1151
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 4: her wedding. That was that had to be like wait, what,

1152
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 4: I'm just finding this out now, you know, like you

1153
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: holding things in for years Like that is like you

1154
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 4: not telling me, I don't know, this is bananas, Like

1155
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 4: if you're not coming to my wedding even though I

1156
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: had three however, that had right as my bestie I'm

1157
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: gonna need to know that day what the reason is.

1158
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 4: I need to know right away. You know, that's got

1159
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: to be you know that was that was deep. That

1160
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 4: moment right there, that was pretty deep.

1161
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: Let's get into that because one of the things that

1162
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: was said was Porscha told Shama, then I go to

1163
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: your wedding because we weren't speaking pretty much speaking, and

1164
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: Shamiyah said she never knew that, and that she was

1165
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: told something about her, something about not being able to

1166
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: fly and the comfortability of it. And then you know,

1167
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: black Twitter child, Black Twitter loves of receipt.

1168
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: That's why, to Edessa's.

1169
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: Point, when you are on these shows, you have to

1170
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: like remember what you say. One of the things that

1171
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: Claudia Jordia one of the things was in a previous season,

1172
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: Porcha said she didn't go because I think it was

1173
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: something dealing with.

1174
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: Blood clots or something.

1175
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 4: On the plane with.

1176
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 5: The Philippines, Porscha said she couldn't get a seat of

1177
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 5: first class flight and it was a long flight because

1178
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 5: remember Candy and Carman were laughing at the table that

1179
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 5: was in the heat of their disagreement, and they were

1180
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 5: laughing about not being able to recline on the plane

1181
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 5: and and that being her reason for not going.

1182
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeh, so the fans saw that. So it's one of

1183
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: those things where could two things?

1184
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: Could two things be true?

1185
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: Or did y'all feel like what you said, Claudia, This

1186
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: friendship is so fractured that they don't have the ability

1187
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: to be real with each other based on the whatever's

1188
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: happening in the moment.

1189
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: Seems like Portia's dismissive of Shemia, like, yeah, whatever, get

1190
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 4: over it. You know, if I can make it, I'll

1191
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 4: make it. And then I it feels like Shamia is

1192
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 4: afraid to, like really call to the carpet if my

1193
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 4: best friend's not making one of my three weddings, or

1194
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 4: if I wedding to however many I want answers, and

1195
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 4: I would hold them accountable because I don't feel inferior

1196
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: to my best friend.

1197
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: She went to for the record portrait that go to

1198
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: the wedding in Atlanta.

1199
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 4: Well that's convenient. I mean, if I just got to

1200
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 4: drive down the street, drive up eighty five, that's not

1201
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: a big deal. That's not a big sacrifice. I need

1202
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 4: you to get on a plane. You my bestie. And

1203
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 4: if I said I'm an offer to BUYO ticket. HEFA,

1204
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 4: you better be there. I'm just saying, but I feel

1205
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 4: like that may feel like not being able to communicate

1206
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 4: with someone that you do love. They do, I'm sure

1207
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: they love each other, right, That's got to be a

1208
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 4: horrible feeling, like feeling like you can't really say until

1209
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 4: you had the nudging of two women you kind of just.

1210
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 5: Met, which at that point, the other person is obviously

1211
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 5: going to be in defense mode. Right If we're now

1212
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 5: discussing some deep, deeply buried, deep rooted, deep seated issues

1213
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 5: at the behest of some people that we really don't

1214
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 5: even know, like that, you know what I'm saying, Porscha

1215
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 5: is automatically going to be on defense mode, and that's

1216
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 5: why we're seeing the breakdown that we're seeing right now

1217
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 5: in their friendship. Since the airing of this episode on Sunday,

1218
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 5: Shamia is done press I saw her doing some inner.

1219
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 5: She did watch What Happens Live on Sunday and spoke

1220
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 5: very clearly and plainly about her disappointment and the breakdown

1221
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 5: of her friendship with Porsche, and she said that Andy

1222
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 5: asked her what she pausing or stopping, and she said,

1223
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 5: at this point she is the friendship. So Shamia is

1224
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 5: being more vocal now than she's ever been about it,

1225
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 5: and she has definitely been empowered from whatever source or

1226
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 5: for whatever reasons to speak her truth. I really enjoy

1227
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 5: Shamia on this show. Seeing her as a housewife has

1228
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 5: been great for me. I'm happy to see her on camera.

1229
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 5: I think she's got a great, big personality that translates

1230
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 5: well into television. And I like Shamia on this show.

1231
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 5: I've always felt like Shamiah was wronged with that Phaedrus

1232
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 5: shit and the Candy situation, So seeing her in this arc,

1233
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 5: I'm enjoying it. I want to see more of it,

1234
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 5: and I also respect friendship. So no matter what my

1235
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 5: personal opinion is on who's right or wrong, we're talking about.

1236
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: A twenty plus year of friendship from.

1237
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 5: When they was kids, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1238
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 5: that's something that you covered and you revere. Sometimes that

1239
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 5: reverence has to start in the midst of a breakdown

1240
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 5: or be you know, it has to be derived from

1241
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 5: a breakdown sometimes, So maybe they can fix it.

1242
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 3: I'm hoping the best, but this.

1243
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: Is how I feel destined.

1244
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: Just because you grew up with somebody as kids or

1245
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: teenagers and you guys were the best of friends as teens.

1246
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes that doesn't translate when you are grown. And I

1247
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: think a lot of people stay friends because of the

1248
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: history of the years they've known each other.

1249
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be honest here.

1250
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm being very honest when I say this, and I

1251
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: know Atlanta I lived there for years. Portia Shamia as

1252
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: adult women are not in the same friend group, and

1253
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: I think they both should talk to each other.

1254
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't see them being friends.

1255
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: I think they're friends because of the history of the number.

1256
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: I think Shamia in real life has our own group

1257
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: of friends, and Portia in real life has our own

1258
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: group of friends. I think they will always have. I'm

1259
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: hoping this a respectful relationship, but I've been one thousand percent.

1260
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: They're not the same type of chicks. They're just not.

1261
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: And I think somebody has to say it like I

1262
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: did growing up. Me and you, Yes, we known each

1263
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: other since we were this age, but in my forties

1264
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: we don't.

1265
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't.

1266
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: We're not the same but different people, and it's okay,

1267
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: it's okay. I don't think portion Shamia should be friends.

1268
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they're not the same woman. They have two

1269
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: separate friend groups. They it's obvious, but they gotta have

1270
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: that tough conversation with each other, just like how Nini

1271
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: and Cynthia. On Nini's Leaks podcast watch it, she interviewed Cynthia.

1272
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: It was a great conversation.

1273
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: I love the I love the interview because Nini and

1274
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: Cynthia both said, I'm paraphrasing that we like who we

1275
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: are today. We won't ever be back like we were,

1276
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: but if we stumble upon each other at dinner, we

1277
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: can talk.

1278
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: But gone are the days of Nanni.

1279
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: And Cynthia talking on the phone ten times a day,

1280
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: all the days of them going on vacation together. But

1281
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: they can coexist and get a good key, key, have

1282
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: a cocktail, keep a movement. I think Shuni and Porsche

1283
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: needs to have that level of prenticeship.

1284
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. And also people change. I mean, listen,

1285
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 4: there's no secret that Porsia's sister also felt away about

1286
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 4: how she's been treated by her as well, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean. So it's not like this is an

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Speaker 4: isolated incident, and maybe she's changed, maybe the fame from

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Speaker 4: you know, she definitely blew up, you know, and some

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Speaker 4: people act differently to us people. You can't start treating

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Speaker 4: people like they're your assistant or they're you know, hold

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Speaker 4: my bag, take my picture, you know, all that kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff, you know. And sometimes if fame comes quickly,

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Speaker 4: sometimes it makes people kind of like, you know, kind

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Speaker 4: of be filmed themselves and be a little bit, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, unconcerned about other people's feelings, are a little

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Speaker 4: bit colorblind to it, where you don't even like notice

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Speaker 4: that you're doing it, you know, because all the everybody

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Speaker 4: else is fawning over you and fans and whatever you need.

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Speaker 4: And then you start treating people that are close to

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Speaker 4: you like there's a help not saying she's doing that.

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Speaker 4: I'm just a hypothesis, hypothetically speaking. But you know, it's okay,

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Speaker 4: and nostalgia is not enough of a reason to stay

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Speaker 4: friends if it's hurting you both of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So all right, So next week, Dustin, Claudia, Smia,

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Speaker 1: and Portscha have their famous well infamous, I should say,

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Speaker 1: sit down. So we will be back next week and

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Speaker 1: talk about that in the rest of the episode.

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Speaker 2: But thank you to so much for another great recap.

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Speaker 1: Claudia, you are on tour, honey, not cowboy Carter, but

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Speaker 1: cop Boy, Claudia last let them know what you got

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 4: Baby. We were in Indianapolis, Chicago for two shows in

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Speaker 4: Saint Louis. Just got to Atlanta today. We're gonna be

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Speaker 4: in Greensboro on Thursday, Atlanta shows on Saturday, and then

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Speaker 4: Charlotte on Sunday. I'll be in Atlanta all week. I

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Speaker 4: actually had a long conversation with Cynthia yesterday. We talked

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Speaker 4: for like over an hour. We get to catch up.

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad we got to talk about a bunch

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Speaker 4: of things like shout out to you, Cynthia, I love you.

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Speaker 4: That was fantastic. And she's like, I've be seeing with y'all.

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Speaker 4: She's like, you're built for that. I love what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: She likes the commentary and all of that. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's busy with that. Also, I really have to say

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Speaker 4: on this Wednesday on my podcast with Erica cop we

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Speaker 4: just got a huge booking. You know, I'm a political nerd,

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Speaker 4: but we have the Minority Speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffreys,

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Speaker 4: joining us all of it. Yes, we're talking about messaging

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Speaker 4: of the Democratic Party, the things that Trump is doing,

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Speaker 4: and just a lot of things that. I am so

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Speaker 4: excited to please tune in this Wednesday Live on I'm

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Speaker 4: accidentally informed with myself and Erica Cop it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a big shot for us.

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Speaker 2: So yes, I love that. And dust is also on tour,

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Speaker 2: so Dustin, you have many.

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Speaker 3: Dates a dude.

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Speaker 5: Man, God is good and he told me you can

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Speaker 5: talk to shit, so I get to go. You know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I'm very excited. Tickets are available now.

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Speaker 5: Go to Dustin rosslive dot com and you can have

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Speaker 5: access to tickets to all the shows. We're kicking things

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Speaker 5: off May twenty fourth in Pittsburgh. May thirty first, we'll

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Speaker 5: be in Seattle and then there's a litany of other

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Speaker 5: cities listed as well, So please.

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Speaker 3: Come out and laugh. We're gonna have a good time.

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Speaker 3: And I can't wait to.

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Speaker 5: See everybody on the road and shout out to everybody

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Speaker 5: who's already purchased tickets.

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Speaker 3: I'll get so.

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Speaker 5: Many tweets and dms and shit from people who bought

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Speaker 5: tickets and it really warms my heart.

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Speaker 3: So thank you, and I'm excited come see me.

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Speaker 4: I love seeing good people winning YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Thank you my friends, Same to you, same you love you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, Robert Allen said, tell Dustin how sexy he

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Speaker 1: is to me?

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Speaker 2: Team Shami.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Robert Allen, and yes I am Team Shamid.

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Speaker 2: That's right, all right, well, thank you, Jasin Banking, Claudia.

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Speaker 1: I will see y'all next week.

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