1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ll that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for Dake Edith Steak. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Is that woo whoo? 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: And then and tie. 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: Dan Ruben see welcome back. It is week thirteen. It 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: is a Baker's dozen. It is the end of the season, 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: getting awfully big in the window. Questions that need to 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: be answered, getting awfully big in the window. Tie breakers 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: and rankings and playoff mayhem and rivalries. Yes, it's all 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: going to happen here in the next like week and 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: a half or so. My friend, how are you? 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm great? You're right about the rivalries, right, it's not 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: all limited to rivalry week, because you have some post 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: rivalry weeks. USC Notre Dame so USC, UCLA is this week, 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: Stanford cala Is this week. We're getting some of those, 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: which I love. I love that there is the bitter 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: old chill of hatred in the airtime. Yeah, I love that. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Well, Welcome back one and all. I am ty hes Dan. 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: This is a solid verbal hit follow hit, subscribe that 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: you don't miss any of the episodes. Things are yeah, 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: heating up here towards the end of the season. If 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: you've already hit that follower subscribe button, make sure you 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: let a friend know about the show. We are continually 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: growing the verbal We would also encourage you to go 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: on out to verbalers dot com. That is our patreon. 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: That is where you can sign up to play in 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: our week thirteen run the board game, Dan, there are 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: sixteen games on the slate this week. You pick them 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: all against the point spread. We need to talk about 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: what gift we want to give away here. 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I gave away pies. I came up with pies 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: last week. What are you thinking for this week? I 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: don't know. 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: I think this needs to be organic. As we're going through. Yeah, 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: as we are talking about these games, if there is 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: anything that comes to mind as we go through, we 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: haven't come up with this yet. This is the first 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: week in like three years of doing this that we 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: have not come up with the prize yet. 42 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: So when I say I'd like to do this organically, Dan, 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: as we go through the episode, well let's just file 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: this away organically. I just said, a bitter cold chill 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: in the air, so maybe there's some sort of warming. 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: There's a jacket company of some kind or something to 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: keep people warm. You've done the solo stove thing, so 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: maybe that's a theme, but not everybody lives somewhere where 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: you need to be warmed constantly. Sure, sure, file that's 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: an option. Ok I got it, I got it jotted 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: down here sixteen games. If you go out through verballers 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: dot com, you'll find out more if you are specifically 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: joining up for the purposes of the game playrunthboard dot 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: Com is the landing page. 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: It gives you all the details and how the game works. 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: That will be the quickest way for new people to 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: figure out what the hell the run the Board is 58 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: and how to get in on the game. 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: You can play for one week. You can play for 60 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: the remainder of the season. 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: We are going to have a bowllpool and a playoff 62 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: pool and all that stuff to come. But the next 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: couple weeks. Anyway, play around the board dot Com is 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: your quickest pathway in love it. We do have some 65 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: news to discuss. Oh, we have playoff rankings again, Dan, 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: your favorite thing in the universe. 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: It is my favorite tie. 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: Your top four is Oregon, Ohio State, Texas and Penn State. Okay, 69 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: followed by Indiana at five, Notre Dame at six, Alabama 70 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: at seven, the highest rated SEC team Miami at eight, 71 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Ole Miss and Georgia at nine and ten, followed by 72 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee and Boise at eleven and twelve. For what it's worth, 73 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: if you care, first four out as of now, SMU, BYU, Texas, 74 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: A and M and Colorado, it is the most wonderful 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: time of the year when everybody takes a dump on 76 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: the playoff committee, the logic and all of the arguments 77 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: that I think fall out of having these playoff conversations 78 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis every Tuesday night. 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: So if I'm looking at this correctly, Boise State would 80 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: get a first round by as the four seed, even 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: though in these rankings they are number twelve, but they 82 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: are more highly ranked in this ranking than the Big 83 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: twelve's highest ranked team. Yes, yeah, so the way it 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 2: works is ranking again, is different than seeding. The four 85 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: highest ranked conference champions will get a first round by 86 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: so by that rubric Dan, Boise State, Yeah, they would 87 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: get the first round by For what it's worth, if 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: you're listening, like, well, what happens to the Big twelve 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: or BYU or BYU? Right now is projected to make 90 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: the playoff coming out of the Big Twelve. They've got them, 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: I guess winning the Big twelve. 92 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: And if you look at the brackets right now, it 93 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: would be BYU traveling to Ohio State with the Winter 94 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: playing Boise. It would be Alabama traveling to Notre Dame 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: with the Winter playing Oregon. We could have a sOliver 96 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: Bowl on our hands. Is Georgia traveling to Penn State? 97 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: I think I saw that the projected points spread would 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: be a pick them in that Okay, Winter playing Miami, 99 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: and then the final matchup would be ole Miss on 100 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: the road at Indiana, your Indiana Houhu Hoosiers, with the 101 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: winner playing against the Texas Longhorn. Stand Who would be 102 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the number two seed in. 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: This in this current seeded projection? 104 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: Correct? 105 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 2: Have you been paying attention to the Indiana discourse? Tie 106 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: that it was a cute story until oh, they're not 107 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: the right team to have a good season. Come on, 108 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: look at this schedule? Come on, what are we talking 109 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: about here? 110 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: You notice it a little bit. I've been trying to 111 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: keep it at arm's length because you gets sucked into 112 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: those discussions and then you kind of lose track of 113 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: the day and you're four hours steep before you know. 114 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: It's trying to like stay away from as best I can. 115 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: We haven't really had that in earnest until now that 116 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: the conversation seems to have shifted to, well, if Indiana 117 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: is not competitive against Ohio State, how do you put 118 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: them in? Can we just say what we're all thinking 119 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: that the SEC, the strength of schedule, that it's Indiana's 120 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: a joke. 121 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: We want to live in a world. 122 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: Where Indiana gets into the playoff tie. It's pretty great. 123 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: It's it's it's a lot of this, it's a lot 124 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: of big da of the chug oh ting football. Brought 125 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: to you by Diane Harris tires. I just I don't know. 126 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: If you want to watch a bunch of SEC games, 127 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: I've got terrific news for you. They play each other. 128 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: If you want to learn about who's better between Ole 129 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: Miss and LSU. Great news. They play each other. If 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: you want to learn about who's better between Alabama and Vanderbilt, 131 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: get ready for this news tie. They play each other. 132 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: If you want to learn about who's better between Texas 133 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: A and M and Texas do we have to wait 134 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: for the playoff? We don't because they play each other. 135 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think it's fun that teams 136 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: are having good seasons and there are different strengths of schedules, 137 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: and teams can't control how good their opponents are, and 138 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: that you know, you do get some SEC big ten 139 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: games like LSU and USC, and LSU was right there, 140 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: ty LS was right there, but they didn't win, and 141 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: that's okay. So I don't know. It's one of those 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: things where there's the conversation the wins have shifted, and 143 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: everybody's sort of threatened by like, we're not going to 144 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: get nine SEC teams in what kind of playoff? 145 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Is one of I think the joys of being an 146 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: independent show is that we're not really contractually obligated to 147 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: play nice with any one person or any any one 148 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 1: point of view. 149 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: I talked to forty three head coaches and they all 150 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: said the same thing about Indiana football. 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: Let me let me stayed in an another obvious point, 152 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: just so that our folks can take the necessary precautions. Yeah, 153 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 1: there is a moderate to severe case of I never 154 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: wanted this going around right now in the media. I 155 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: don't know if, of course this up. It's insidious, it's 156 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: all performative, but it's very insidious. People listening to this 157 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: may not even know they have it. Never want a 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: conference re alignment, never want a playoff expansion, never wanted this. 159 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't know this version of college football saying you 160 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: never want a conference re alignment seems to center around, 161 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: at least for the moment, this notion of we need 162 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: to defend one conference strength over another. Right. A lot 163 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: of it is the SEC versus the Big Ten, versus 164 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: the Big twelve versus the ACC, to which I would 165 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: argue that is not a new thing. People, that totally not. 166 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: That argument is the same argument now as it was 167 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: nine months ago before Texas and Oklahoma joined the SEC. 168 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: We've always had this argument about the SEC is what 169 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: the best conference? 170 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: That was my own ball. 171 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: We always had that argument. That is not a new thing. 172 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: That is not as a result of any changes. 173 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: Look at Kentucky is better than you think. 174 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: And there is also a case of this going around 175 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: with the playoff now. I never wanted this expanded playoff. 176 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: I would ask those people consider this year's season within 177 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: the framework of last because in that world we're not 178 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: arguing over like specific playoff order or rankings order, or 179 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: anything like that. We're arguing about are we leaving out 180 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: two or three Big ten teams? We're arguing trying to 181 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: figure out subjectively which SEC team is the best because 182 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: we can probably only pick one right. We're arguing about 183 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: does NC screw over or does notre name excuse me 184 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: screw over the ACC or the Big twelve and leave 185 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: that two of those conferences out entirely. We're probably arguing 186 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: about who Boise State's going to play in the Vegas Bowl. Well, sure, 187 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: that is a much different conversation than the one that 188 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: I think people are getting hung up on right now 189 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: when they say, oh, I would have never wanted this anyway, 190 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: I would ask for a brief moment of perspective if 191 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: such thing exists in today's universe. I would much rather 192 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: have this argument. I would much rather be arguing over 193 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: order and who the number twelve team is and if 194 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: number eleven gets in, or if Boise gets in and 195 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: takes their place, or something like that. I would much 196 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: rather have the argument now than the one we have 197 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: had for the last decade, which is somebody's going to 198 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: get screwed over big time and it's a bad choice. 199 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: We hate doing it. But tell us who you think 200 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: that should be. Boomshaka, Laca cor Agan, right right. I 201 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: would much rather be in this moment in twenty twenty four, 202 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: Which is why I feel like all of these I 203 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: never wanted this arguments. All of them are performative. 204 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: I think it's way funnier that you're like, we have 205 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: the fifth best team. Yeah, like that is a funny thing. 206 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: It is about this all. 207 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: But if truly you care about not screwing over teams 208 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: or at least having the best teams in the tournament, 209 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: this still gives you the best option. 210 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 2: If you wanted the best teams, you'd have either a 211 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: smaller or bigger tournament. Yeah right, you'd have teams that 212 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: have gotten better but have two or three losses, or 213 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: you just reward the teams who have been the most bulletproof. 214 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: Twelve is just in the middle, and you get arguments 215 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: over which second tier in which conference is the most 216 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: deserving to get the benefit of the doubt, and why 217 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: a potential eleven to one Indiana has to perform on 218 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: a level against Ohio State that they have to meet 219 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: some vague bar to like, some competitive bar that they 220 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: can't lose by fourteen but if they lose by ten, ah, right, 221 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: you're in right, Like there is a very weird performative 222 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: bar that has to do with the at lart like 223 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: the nine to ten eleven type seeds. 224 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, which is completely It's great. 225 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: It really is great. 226 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: If you go through that mental exercise putting this season 227 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: within the framework of last we're probably crying for a 228 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: reform system afterwards. Sure, this season is very different from 229 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: the ones we have seen in the past. You know, 230 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: we have gotten to that playoff argument, that fourteen playoff 231 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: argument far too often, and we look at it and 232 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: we say, we know who's going to win. That was 233 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: kind of the argument against the playoff. A lot of 234 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: people made that. 235 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't we know who's going to win. It's 236 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: every year we're seeing the same three of four or 237 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: four of four teams. They're drawing from the same small pool. 238 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: There was this air of inevitability, right yeah, And that 239 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: was frustrating and it turned fans off. And I've heard 240 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: plenty of arguments against that as well. Yeah, this season, 241 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: it has not really gone that way. There's a lot 242 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: of variability this season. It doesn't feel like you've got 243 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: the bulletproof team. Even your Oregon Ducks undefeated, sure, right, 244 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: sixteen to thirteen victors a week ago. We have seen 245 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: all of these teams with flaws, and so my sense 246 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: is if we were at this stage now where we're 247 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: arguing about who the best four teams are, it would 248 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: be a much much different argument, and there would be 249 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: the same people, many of the same people saying I 250 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: don't want this, I hate this. They would be the 251 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: ones calling for reform. 252 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: I mean this year would be especially Remind me the 253 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: top four right now. 254 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Right now, You've got Oregon, You've got Ohio State, You've 255 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: got Texas, and you've got Penn State. 256 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: So it's four teams who are not in the SEC 257 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: last year. 258 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: Correct, that's right. 259 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: Okay, that's the nightmare. That's why there's a little bit 260 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: of freak out. Not the Texas element to this, but 261 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: it's just like, well, what has. 262 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: Bet State done? What is an act done? Where can 263 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: you struggle with Wisconsin? Ole miss almost beat Kentuck here? 264 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: Okay? I think it's fun. I think it's fine. It's 265 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: all a TV show. We like having a varied cast 266 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: of characters on a TV show. It's fine, everything's going 267 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: to be just all right. I'm not a big fan 268 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: of an expanded playoff. This is what we have. I 269 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: don't know, let's accept it. Move on, Let's play our 270 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: pick of the. 271 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: Week sound and time for helm any of the week. 272 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: Don't forget to give a call on the reverbline eighty 273 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: five to five verbal three. We will play our favorite 274 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: messages as part of the live stream we do on 275 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: Saturday at midnight Eastern time when we do the week 276 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: thirteen recap. That video is available to all. It's free. 277 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: We'd encourage you to stop buy if you're up late 278 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: at night, I want to talk some college football with us. 279 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: If not, we will drop, of course, the audio to 280 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: the feed bright and early on Sunday morning. Dan. Yes, 281 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: one of the other things I'm adding here to my 282 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: list is some sort of calming quality. Oh so, along 283 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: with our warming and jacket idea for the prize, something 284 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: that also maybe has a calming quality would be nice edibles. 285 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: So you're edi saying that you are going to buy 286 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: people THCHC products. Yeah, okay. 287 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: First game on the docket, high noon Fox Indiana at 288 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Big noon game, Dan, of course, big noon game. 289 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pumped, right, Ohio say people love the noon game, love. 290 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: The nooners love it. Yeah, Ohio state favored by thirteen 291 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: and a half points. We should also add, if you 292 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: are at home looking for the full second screen experience, 293 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: you and I are doing a live stream on this 294 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: here YouTube channel for the folks watching the video h 295 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: noon Eastern time. We're going to do a watch along 296 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: for Indiana, Ohio state. 297 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Why not do we have a custom URL that we 298 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: can point to to get people to the stream. 299 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: You've been advocating for smelltieshair dot Com. 300 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: I believe it currently points to the live YouTube page 301 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: that we have right smelltieshair dot Com. We'll make sure 302 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: it's mel tieshair t Ys, smell tieshair dot com. Stop on, buye, 303 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: stop on. 304 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: By the point spread as I said, thirteen and a half, 305 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: which I believe I called two or three weeks ago. Yeah, 306 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: at some point we have a video out there about that, 307 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: But it looked like it was going to be around thirteen. 308 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Right now it's thirteen and a half. This one, I 309 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: believe open to a little bit lower, or at least 310 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: when I looked at it, it was a little bit lower. 311 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: Since then, we've seen money come in on Ohio State, 312 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: it has not moved on. The bad news for Ohio State. 313 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: That's Seth McLaughlin. Their center tore his achilles oh awful, 314 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: which is a really big deal. We should probably talk 315 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: about it, maybe not just within the context of this game, 316 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: but just more broadly speaking Ohio State and their line play. 317 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: He's arguably been their best offensive lineman this year. He 318 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: was the transfer from Alabama who had the snap issues 319 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: a year ago, but has been pretty good for Ohio State. 320 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: Has been very good. 321 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a bummer for them. What jumps out 322 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: at you when you look at this matchup because you know, 323 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: we both have access to the same stuff, the same 324 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: videos of previous games, the same spreadsheets and whatnot. There 325 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: aren't a whole lot of glaring weaknesses. 326 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: You hacked into Curtis Rock security system, so we do 327 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: have access to some pretty insane stuff. 328 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at the profile for Indiana, there's 329 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: not a lot of red flags that jump out the 330 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: spreadsheets right now. Very kind to the Hoosiers because maybe 331 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: because strength of schedule has been one oh five in 332 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: the nation, so it's definitely not been the toughest schedule 333 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: in the world. The trick is for you and I 334 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: and the reballer hood to figure out if that matters. 335 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: Does that matter? 336 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh? I think it matters. I don't think it's the 337 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: only thing that matters, but I think it's an element 338 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: to all of this. Yeah, that you want to measure 339 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: yourself against high quality teams, high quality players. See how 340 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: you respond, see how you adjust. And the fact of 341 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: the matter is Indiana has played the Michigan front and 342 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: really struggled in that second half. They really did struggle 343 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: against the linebackers and edge guys, defensive tackles from Michigan 344 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: who got stronger over the course of that game and 345 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: really caved in the Indiana offensive line. I believe they 346 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: are too. Also down a starter maybe left guard I 347 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: want to say, is out for the year also an 348 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: Achilles injury. So that matters. That's all sample size, but 349 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: that is the only real sample size we have to 350 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: go off of, like a NFL quality front that Indiana 351 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: has taken on and did struggle against, especially in that 352 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: second half. What jumps out to me about Indiana is 353 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: there's a very specific blueprint to beat Ohio State because 354 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: a team has done it this year, and I don't 355 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: think Indiana is built like Oregon. Oregon was able to 356 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: succeed downfield, winning those one on one matchups. You know, 357 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: Evan Stewart and Ted Johnson succeeded against I think it 358 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: was Denzel Burke for Ohio State. I like Elijah Surratt 359 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: had a couple of key drops against Michigan. I don't 360 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: think he can do it alone. I don't think this 361 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: receiving core is quite on the level of Oregons if 362 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: that's a blueprint to take down Ohio State. But Indiana's 363 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: winning how Indiana wins, which is winning sort of completely 364 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: and thoroughly winning on defense, running the ball when when 365 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: they're running well, they seem to be scoring a ton 366 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: of points like most teams do. And Ohio State defensively 367 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: they've been pretty much much spectacular, But there is this 368 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: like weird behind the scenes push pull, or at least 369 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: there was between how the defensive line operates and how 370 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: the rest of the defense operates. And I don't think 371 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: you can have that against good teams, which I believe 372 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: Indiana to be. So I don't know they performed admirably. 373 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: Nebraska had a shot, I guess, and they did a 374 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: really nice job defensively against Ohio State and took advantage 375 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: of those offensive line issues. But if Ohio State can 376 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: somehow figure out offensive line shuffling, which is a big 377 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 2: if they're going to score, doesn't mean they're gonna win, 378 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: but they're going to be able to score. Chip Kelly 379 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: and Justin Fry, the offensive line coach, are going to 380 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: be creative enough get the ball out of Will Howard's 381 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: hands quickly enough to obviously extremely talented players in the 382 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: backfield in the receiving room that they'll score. To me, 383 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: the biggest question in this game is how does Indiana 384 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: see and absorb what Ohio State is doing and adjust 385 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: over the course of this game, because top to bottom 386 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: they have not played a roster like that and so 387 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: getting used to the speed, getting used to the line play. 388 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: And if they're down fourteen to three, can they diagnose 389 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: why that is quickly? If they're up ten to nothing 390 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: like Penn State was against Ohio State when after the 391 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: it was a pick six, right, if they're up ten 392 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: to nothing, do they have the wherewithal two step on 393 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: the gas even further like are they ready for that moment? 394 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: I think that's the question that remains because it's impressive 395 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: as Indiana's schedule has been on the road this year. 396 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: It was Friday night at a half empty Rose Bowl. 397 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: It was falling behind quickly, but then stomping Michigan State 398 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: on the road. And what am I leaving out here 399 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: in terms of Indiana's road schedule. I think they played 400 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 2: three road games. 401 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: I think this isn't a shanty game the full way. 402 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: It's at Northwestern's Temp Stadium, by the way, That's what 403 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: stood out to me, so really not road tested. 404 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: This is a trust game. Yeah, this is a trust game. 405 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean I'm trying to find things that I can 406 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: latch onto, and you know, you find tendencies that I 407 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: guess are interesting, right, Like Indiana's his zone heavy pass defense, 408 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: their second in pressure rate, they don't blitz as much, 409 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: So what does that mean. I trust that you're going 410 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: to see Ohio State running unbalanced sets, flooding zones, motions, 411 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: stuff like that to figure out what's going on, maybe 412 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: quick stuff until Chip settles in and figures out the 413 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: game plan. I trust that Chip Kelly will figure it out. 414 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: And I don't trust that Indiana is going to have 415 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: an answer for all the different ways that Ohio State 416 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: can beat them. That is not to say Ohio State 417 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: is bulletproof. I think we know better at this point. 418 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: I think everyone is gettable the season. I just had 419 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: a whole diet trap about that. I'm just trusting the 420 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: talent here on the Ohio State side. I'm trusting the talent, 421 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: I'm trusting the coaching that they're going to figure this 422 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: one out. I'd also add that Ohio State trusts its 423 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: secondary and man coverage a lot more so than most 424 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 1: other teams in college football, and in a game like this, 425 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna trust that they have better athletes, athletes that 426 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: can go up there, that can win one on one. 427 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: That's why they blitz a lot more than a team 428 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: like in Indiana, because they know they've got the backstop, 429 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: or at least they believe in their backstop more than 430 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: I think Indiana does. Remember coming into the season, that 431 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: was a big question about Indiana. How are they going 432 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: to mitigate the fact that secondary is a question. They've 433 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: mitigated it by playing a ton of zone. That's how 434 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Ohio State in a much much different class with respect 435 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: to how they are guarding against the pass. My theory 436 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: is this, and it's not that complex. It's a Jimmy's 437 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: and Joe's thing for Ohio State. Okay, they have better players, 438 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: better players, and. 439 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: I don't think it needs to be more complex. 440 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: We could talk about all these tendencies till we're blue 441 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: in the face, and schedules and all that. For my money, 442 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: the scheduling argument doesn't even really make sense. Don't even 443 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: bring it up right now. It is not about who 444 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: Indiana has played, even if they've had a chance to 445 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: test themselves, it doesn't matter to me. Their players are 446 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: not as good as Ohio State players. Ohio State wins 447 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: this one going away thirty eight to seventeen. 448 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have it somewhere in there as well. I 449 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: have thirty four to twenty barely covering well, it's thirteen 450 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: and a half. Yeah, thirty five to twenty, thirty five, 451 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: twenty one something in that, and even that might be 452 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: a little ambitious. I think it's just it's Jimmy's and Joe's. 453 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: But to me, it's just the Ohio State defense. I 454 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: think the Ohio State defense. You saw Indiana's struggle. It 455 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: was Zekeberry for Michigan. The corner like the Michigan corners, 456 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: and these are backup corners. We're smothering the Indiana receivers 457 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: for long stretches. I just think there is going to 458 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: be the physical nature of Ohio State's defense is going 459 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: to be too much. It's going to create opportunities. So yeah, 460 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: thirty five to twenty Ohio State. 461 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: We agree. We grew high noon ABC, oh Miss minus 462 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: ten and a half points on the road at Florida. 463 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: This isn't so much a trust game. This is a 464 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: vibes game. Dan is a vibes game. We've got high 465 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: vibes on both sides this. Yeah, we got ole Miss 466 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: beat Georgia two weeks ago on bye last week, but 467 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: two weeks ago beat Georgia. You know you're right back 468 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: in this thing after a couple losses if you're ole Miss, 469 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: so got to be happy about that. Now we've got 470 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: them in the playoff. The Committee's got him in their playoff. 471 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: So everything's coming up Old Miss. And my question to 472 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: you is about Florida though, mm hmm, because vibes are 473 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: also pretty strong in Gainesville, which, by the way, ol 474 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: Miss is getting Trey Harris back allegedly right, correct, Yeah, 475 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: that is correct, Billion Napier keeping his job. DJ Lagway 476 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: turn it into a full on dude just pulled the 477 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: upset of LSU a week ago. Yeah, barring disaster against 478 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: Florida State, you're going bowling, which in and of itself, 479 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: I think is an accomplishment for billion Napier. 480 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: Oh great. 481 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: It's a good team. It is not a finished product, 482 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: but the vibes are high. How much stock do you 483 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: put in the vibes of the Florida side? 484 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: I put a decent amount. When they've had a quarterback 485 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: that isn't Aiden Warner, they've been good, not great, but good, 486 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: and I should say after the Miami game, they've been 487 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: good with what they showed against Georgia, with obviously what 488 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: they showed against LSU. I discount the Texas thing because 489 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: I was an Aiden Warner game, and it's just unfair 490 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: to expect a ton from an offense with a third 491 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: string quarterback, no matter who that is. I guess short 492 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: of card L Jones, I put a decent amount of stock. 493 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: Florida is competitive with basically the best of the conference 494 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: when they have a healthy, ish quarterback, be it Tennessee, 495 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: be it Georgia, whoever. LSU maybe not the best of 496 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: the conference anymore, but a quality team. So the game 497 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: is in Gainesville, right Ty, Yeah, the vibes are there. 498 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: I think Florida can cover this game. What's the line 499 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: at the time, ten and a half recording ten and 500 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: a half points. I think they can keep this competitive. 501 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: And the thing I wore wry about which had me 502 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: leaning ole Miss initially, was just that old Miss pass 503 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: rush has been so great. And if DJ Lagway is 504 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: playing on a bum hamstring, which I don't think hamstring's 505 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: heel in a matter of six to seven days, that's 506 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 2: just a lot to ask of him. That's a lot 507 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: to ask of a freshman. It's a lot to ask 508 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: of any quarterback. Right now, staring down ole Miss's defensive front, 509 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: I think ole Miss wins this game thirty one to 510 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: twenty three. 511 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: I think this game looks a lot like the Georgia 512 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: game a few weeks ago. Okay, and you'll recall we 513 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: were watching that game when we were in the press 514 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: box at the Michigan Organ game. There's a case to 515 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: be made that Florida could have won that game. If 516 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: DJ Lagway doesn't go down with the hamstring, sure it 517 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: could have been a different game. It was a close 518 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: game most of the way through until Georgia pulled away. 519 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: I see Florida hanging on for a while against this 520 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: Ole Miss team. I do think there is a point 521 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: in the game though, when the Old Miss offense it's 522 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: just a little too much, or maybe when the Florida 523 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: offense is unable to pull its weight. That's my biggest 524 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: issue with the points spread here. Yeah, I feel like 525 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: there is a cap on that Florida offense around twenty points, 526 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: and if you're going to cover against Ole Miss, you 527 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: need to score a little bit more than that. Yeah, 528 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: if you want to win, you gotta score thirty. I 529 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: don't think they're scoring thirty against this defense, but if 530 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: you want to cover, you. 531 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: Got to get the I mean, Ole Miss has lost 532 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: a game in which a team got to twenty and 533 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: that's they have. 534 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: They absolutely have, So there's a case to be made 535 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: that that is possible here. 536 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 537 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: I just like I look at Florida, I see the 538 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: contrast between how many big plays they give up and 539 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: how many big plays Ole Miss is generating, and that 540 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: skes me out. I hear you, that is the thing 541 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: that really frightens me with respect to this point spread, 542 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: because that has been Old missus jam In twenty twenty four. 543 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: I went back and forth on this one. I think 544 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: all Miss wins. All Miss wins the game. The cover 545 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: the not cover, that to me is in question right now. 546 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: I've got it at thirty three seventeen Old Miss, and 547 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a blowout. It's not a crock potting. 548 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: This is a game that is close that Old Miss 549 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: pulls away late, maybe to cover, Yeah yeah, maybe, I 550 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: guess it'd be a front door cover, front door cover. 551 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 552 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: This is a game that gets outside of that points 553 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: for a number late, but it is a good game 554 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: for most of the way through. 555 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The thing that gives me pause is it's 556 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: a road game. It's a tough environment. Florida's got some 557 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: good electricity going defense has been pretty good. Got to 558 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: Carson Beck repeatedly, I don't know. I think it's I 559 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 2: think it's relatively competitive, but I do give it not 560 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: to Ole Miss Florida covers. Maybe they're my home reptile 561 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: of the week. 562 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: Home reptile? 563 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Isn't that what an alligator is? 564 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: We don't have a sound. 565 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: The Yackers home dog of the week. 566 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: That's the best we can do. 567 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: Yes, fine, done? 568 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Three point thirty ESPN. Let's get to the big twelve 569 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: portion this show, shall we? I would love to BYU 570 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: at Arizona YU State YU at Arizona State. Yeah, there 571 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: is a difference Arizona, especially if you're wagering. Yeah, Arizona 572 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: State favored by three and a half points, Dan, Does 573 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: that surprised you at all that they are favored over BYU? 574 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: Well, in this moment, we're coming off of a BYU 575 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: loss close to win the week before in rivalry game, 576 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: and we're coming off of strong to very strong ASU 577 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: vibes lately, so things seem to be trending in four 578 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: Key's direction. So I understand it. I definitely understand it. 579 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: You beat Kansas State, who we still perceive to be quality, 580 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: to be pretty good in the manner that Arizona State 581 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: was able to, especially immediately playing at home, giving ASU 582 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: fans or ASU students especially reason to get there and 583 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: make a ton of noise. Yeah, I get this line. 584 00:29:54,360 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: I wonder what kind of headspace ASU is in. I 585 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: wonder what their headspace is because coming off of that 586 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: Kansas State win now having kind of everything in front 587 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: of them, Truly, I wonder if Kenny Dillingham is able 588 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: to build on that. He seems like the kind of 589 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: guy who can the kind of guy who feeds off 590 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: of that, who is able to find a way to 591 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: transfer that energy over to his team. And that's part 592 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: of why I'm really afraid to go against Asu. I 593 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: really want to go Asu here. And I guess you 594 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: could ask the same question about BYU, because sometimes there 595 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: is a bit of a deflating effect of losing that 596 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: first game sometimes when you break the seal, and there 597 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: are other games that kind of get away from you. 598 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: And this strikes me as one where you've got two 599 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: ships going in different directions. That may be an unfair 600 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: way to characterize it. 601 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 2: I mean, BYU season has been so good, so strong, 602 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: it's probably. 603 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: An unfair way to characterize it. But I just I 604 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: wonder if there is some letdown effect as a result 605 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: of losing that game. 606 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: In dramatic fashion, in close dramatic fashion to Kansas, I. 607 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: Am extremely torn here, extremely torn here. 608 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: Dan by the way, related I'm seeing here. The cam 609 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: scataburger debuts at cold beers and cheeseburgers except in Tucson, Okay. 610 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: So he has a signature burger which I always appreciate 611 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: Cam Scataboo did come back last week, wasn't a huge factor, 612 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: but made enough plays through the air and on the 613 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: ground to make a difference. I'm leaning ASU mostly because 614 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: it's at home, and mostly because I believe in ASU's 615 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: ability to run the ball against a BYU front that 616 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: has been better against the pass than they have been 617 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: in creating a wall and stopping the run. So I 618 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 2: look at that as an advantage for Arizona State. I 619 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: look at that that hangover. That's a late night BYU 620 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: lost too, right, Yeah, and so I don't know you're 621 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: eating into schedule that heading out onto the road. I'm 622 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: going with ASU to win this one outright, covering twenty 623 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: seven to twenty one. 624 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the other side of it, Okay, I'm 625 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: going to take the other side of it. 626 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: ASU two inflated, BYU two deflated or BYU two looked past. 627 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I BYU does not fit neatly into any box, right, 628 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: they don't. Just the way they're playing this year, they 629 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: just they don't. Their offense especially does not fit into 630 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: any construct that we are comfortable with. But you know, 631 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: I saw some positive signs in the game. I watched 632 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: a week ago. I still think Jake Retzliff's a playmaker. 633 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: I think you could use a little bit more support, 634 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: but I still think he is a big game player. 635 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: I still think based on what I saw with the 636 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: way they used the Running game or the way they 637 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: used it a week ago, it's probably better. It's it's 638 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: more specific to individual scenarios. They don't always use it 639 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: the same way, but the way they used it a 640 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: week ago, a'llbe it against Kansas, which isn't the world's 641 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: toughest defense. AESU clearly is a better defense. But I 642 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: just I thought they deployed it in a really smart way, 643 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: and so I'm just I'm not ready to bail on 644 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: BYU yet. 645 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: Oh I don't think you should bail on BYU. I 646 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: think a SU is quality and BYU is quality. I 647 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: also think and do we have the November sound? 648 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: We do? We do. 649 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: Order line erotic. So there's I think there's a weariness 650 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: that starts to set in around now. You have Thanksgiving 651 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: coming up. You're, however, many week twelve games or not 652 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: twelve games, but usually ten games, unless you're Oregon and 653 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: Washington randomly have played eleven. That's a nice little welcome 654 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: invite from the big ten. Everybody's beat up, everybody's injured, 655 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: and I sort of put a little more stock right now, 656 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: and which is why I liked Florida a little bit. 657 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: In home teams, are you just sleeping at home? You're 658 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: on a more normal schedule, You're not back and forth. Yeah, 659 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: there's a weariness that I like to wager against in November, 660 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: the road weariness. And so this sort of fits that 661 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: that worldview I have. 662 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take BYU plus the points. Okay, I don't 663 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: really know who wins the game. I mean kind to 664 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: say ASU wins the game. But three and a half 665 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: with BYU's just propensity to play these close games. I 666 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I want I want the points here. I 667 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: want to take the points. Let's stay at three point thirty. 668 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: On Fox, it is Colorado minus three at Kansas, another. 669 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: Big, big twelve album. Man, this is secretly one of 670 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: the best, probably three games of the day. 671 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: You ever run a five k a little too fast? 672 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: You up never accused me of running too fast? No, 673 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean out of the gates. You're a little bit 674 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: too juiced up. You get out there before you you 675 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: know you're sucking wind about midway. 676 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 2: Through midway, yeah, and eighth of the way in. 677 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: And eighth of the way I feel like Colorado used 678 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: to do that, okay, and now they've figured out how 679 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: to pace themselves and they're better for it. It just 680 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: seems like there was a feeling out period, and maybe 681 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: it was all of last season, but they have kind 682 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: of grown into this version of themselves that is pretty good. Yeah, 683 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: it is pretty good. And you could probably make the 684 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: same case for Kansas a little bit. You know, they 685 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: were really feeling themselves last couple of years and this 686 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: season has been different for reasons that we don't need 687 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: to go into full description of right now. But Kansas 688 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: is on a run now too. They have figured themselves out. 689 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: They are playing better now. To that point, I have 690 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: not come away super impressed after having rewatched that Kansas 691 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: BYU game. You know, like red zone defense was good 692 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: for Kansas, was really good for Kansas. But between the 693 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: twenties there are a bunch of wide receivers for BAI 694 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: are just wide open, like unabated wide open. I also 695 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: really like Jalen Daniels. I'm glad he's healthy. He got 696 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: away with some throws last week to the outside, especially 697 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: if he tries those throws against his secondary there's pick 698 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: sixes that are coming at there. Okay, So I'm I'm 699 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: learly to get too high on Kansas, which is offset 700 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: by the fact that I think the big equalizer here 701 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: is coaching, and I really like Lance Leipold. I think 702 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: Lance Leipold is a much better coach in this game, Okay, 703 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: And I think he will come up with some sort 704 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: of scheme against Colorado that's gonna do to the Buffalo's 705 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: what they did to Iowa State a few weeks back 706 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: BYU last week did it again. I think because of 707 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: the coaching aspect of this, this is a close game 708 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me if Kansas is winning or 709 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: ends up winning late. Okay, where do you stand? 710 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 2: At first? I was looking for reasons for Kansas because 711 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 2: they've been playing well lately. They've been in control of 712 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: these games, even games they've lost, they've been up late 713 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: and certainly beating Iowa State and then beating BYU teams 714 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: upper ish tier of the conference for sure. So Kansas 715 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: belongs in that conversation that back half of the season, 716 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 2: they've been playing like one of those teams are better 717 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: than couple of those teams. They just have lost a 718 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 2: bunch of close games and started out just in a 719 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 2: very sloppy way. Whether it was the Illinois game, whether 720 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: it was I think they were up late against ASU. 721 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: I want to say, you feel free to fact check 722 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 2: me on that. I believe they were ASU scored with 723 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: like sixteen fifteen seconds left. So they've been in these 724 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: games with what we believe to be the top of 725 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: the conference. They just haven't closed it out. The game 726 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: is it's Arrowhead, right, it's Arrowhead Stadium. There's a big 727 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: rat poison week for Colorado, right, I think so Travis 728 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 2: Hunter overwhelming Eisman favorite. The odds are in his favor. 729 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: Got a Michael Irvin's story that says if the Cowboys 730 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: draft Shadoor Dion Wood taken open a potentially open it's 731 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: not open at the moment, right. No, mich McCarthy is 732 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: still somehow Someway the coach ye the Cowboys. 733 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: I think I think he's a dead man walking. But okay, 734 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: got an NFL guy, You're not. 735 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: A big like Cooper Rush that who the backup is believer? No, 736 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: and the chip was finest. There's some distractions. But I mean, 737 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: this has been a Colorado program that has welcomed the 738 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: spotlight these past couple of seasons, and they haven't been 739 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: sneaking by teams. They stuck my Baylor. But lately they've 740 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 2: been pulling away late at home on the road, They've 741 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 2: been behaving like a Power Conference champion should at this 742 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: point in the season. They've built up depth a little 743 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 2: bit more than they had last year. The defense is 744 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: certainly much better. This is going to be one of 745 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: the better, if not the best, rushing attacks that they've 746 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 2: faced this year, and they've handled a run decently well. 747 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: But I don't think it's a complete defense quite yet. 748 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 2: I don't think I would go that far. I don't know. 749 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: Once again, the line and this moment, three. 750 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: Points, three points, Colorado on the road, I'm. 751 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: Gonna go with Colorado here. I'm gonna go with Colorado 752 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: just because I think the slot potential for Kansas is 753 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: a little bit brighter and I can't fully get behind 754 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: Kansas as a fully realized turned around aircraft carrier. I'm 755 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 2: going Colorado on the road. 756 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: I am watching Kansas specifically on first and second downs. Yeah, 757 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: because they have been pretty good this season. At staying 758 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: ahead of the change. Third down is when Kansas seemingly 759 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: stops protecting Jalen Daniels. Maybe he's just trying to make 760 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: a play and it kind of screws up the line stats. 761 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: But I just think trying to make a play against 762 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: this pass defense can mean bad things because they have 763 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: playmakers in the secondary. 764 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 765 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: I think this is a back and forth game. I 766 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of big plays. I think 767 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: we I have some turnovers that come back to bite 768 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: Kansas because of that thing I just described first and 769 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 1: second down, staying ahead of the chains and then trying 770 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: to make something happen on third down. Winning drive laid 771 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: in the game for Shador Sanders to Travis Hunter. Yeah, 772 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: Colorado squeaks it out on a thirty eight yard field 773 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: goal at the gun, thirty one to thirty, thirty one 774 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: to thirty they win a Kansas covers Kansas covers. Wow, Okay, 775 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: we disagree. Final big game here, seven pm. They're playing 776 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: it in Yankee Stadium. It is Army, it is Notre Dame. 777 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: It is the Irish favor by fourteen points. 778 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: Dan, I would take Notre Dame minus twenty four. I would. 779 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: I have Notre Dame minus twenty five. Really, I have 780 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,479 Speaker 1: Notre Dame forty two to seventeen in this game. 781 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I was just saying if I were a rate 782 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 2: of a raging a waging human, a wagering human. Yeah, 783 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 2: that would be a line I might still be interested 784 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 2: in with Notre Dame. Now Notre Dame, maybe without Howard Cross. 785 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: He's questionable. Sho didn't play last week against Virginia. 786 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: Sure, what do you mean? 787 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 2: Sure? Is he not one of their best three defensive players? No? 788 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: No, no, he is, of course he is. I just 789 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it matters. Okay, I don't think and 790 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to be disrespectful to the United States Army. 791 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: Of course. 792 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: I great season. 793 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: We've been reporting on Army football like more this year 794 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: than ever before. 795 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: Easily one of the best armies in this country. Continue. 796 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: This is probably the moment to mention that they've played 797 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty third toughest schedule in the country. Okay, 798 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: you did a little thing earlier on Slack where you 799 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: went team by team, I did his schedule and you 800 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: found some interesting factois that mainly interest Tom Hammond. 801 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 2: Did you not Week one Patriot League power Week two, 802 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: fired coach, Week three, fired coach, Week four, fired coach, 803 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 2: Week five, may fire coach. Week six, May fired, coach, 804 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 2: may fire coach week seven, fired coach Week eight historic 805 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 2: uncharacteristic bad year number nine fired defensive coordinator. That's their schedule. 806 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 2: I think Army is a good team. 807 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: I really like Bryson daily, I really like the offense. 808 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: I just they're in a different class in Notre Dame. 809 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: They just are, And I don't think it's particularly close. 810 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: We saw Notre Dame handled Navy earlier in this year. 811 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: Army is different. I'd say Army is better, but it 812 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: does give us a hint as to what might happen 813 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: in this one here against another option team. I think 814 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: it's forty two to seventeen. I think it's Notre Dame's 815 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: rushing attack that sets the tone. I think Army is 816 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: in a position of having to play ketchup. I think 817 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: option teams having to play ketchup generally doesn't work out. 818 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: Plus a lot of and defans in New York, this 819 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: is gonna be like a home game for Notre Dame. 820 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 2: And Army's not a tiny school that Marcus Freeman can 821 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 2: overlook In September, right, so he's not gonna lose this 822 00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 2: forty two to seventeen. 823 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree. Let's get to our next segment where 824 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: we pick our quads. Dan, I think about the heart, 825 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: pashion commitment and the energy you're willing to put into it. 826 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: That man is Tom Platz. He does the quad Father workout. 827 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: Do not do it. 828 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 2: You will be crippled. That is my exclaimer. 829 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: By the way, do we have a nickname for this Saturday? 830 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: Oh? I have Stay the Course Saturday. Yeah, because there 831 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: are a lot of games. There's not just a depth 832 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 2: of huge bangers and you know, top ten matchups, top 833 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: fifteen matchups, whatever, but there are a lot of moments 834 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 2: where when you look at teams heading into a tiebreaker, 835 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: you're either an SEC team playing Northampton High or you 836 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: are an ACC team with playoff aspirations or conference championship aspirations, 837 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 2: and like, you just have winnable games in front of 838 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 2: you this week and next week. So it's nothing dramatic. 839 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: It's just who can stay the course, who can read 840 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: their their compass and say, yep, we are we are 841 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: sailing at forty four degrees due north or whatever. That 842 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,479 Speaker 2: to me is going this is one of those weeks 843 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 2: where you're just like, it's TCB, it's taking care of business. 844 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 2: I stay the course, Saturday Colon take care of business. 845 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I jotted this down when I was 846 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: giving my little Dia try before I would be inclined 847 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: to just call this a shut up and watch Saturday. Yeah, 848 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: shut up, shut up, let's watch the games man, shut up. 849 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: See what you can do. Put up or shut up. 850 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 2: That's not pure alliteration. That's a shit. It's shut up Shaturday. 851 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: I guess Shaturday. Go for it. Yeah, that's a different 852 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: connotation altogether. Here are wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. 853 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 1: It could just be Shatterday ty Hopes and Dreams. Ooh, 854 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: shattered in week thirteen, Shatterday Colon Hopes and Dreams get crushed. 855 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: Shatterday. 856 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah this is a new spig. 857 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, new spin for us. I like this. I think 858 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: we we worked on that together pretty successfully organically. I 859 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 2: like it, but it goes fully against stay the course. 860 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 2: Now I'm saying there's some somebodies are not going to 861 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 2: stay the course. Welcome to Shatter Day, Colon Hopes and Dreams, 862 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 2: get cars and for our run the board prize. I'm 863 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 2: putting something that shatterproof. Okay, A new MacBook Pro. 864 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no no, yeah, 865 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: we're trying to keep this boat of Sorry, sorry, sorry, 866 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: a new Backbook Pro screen protector. Ah. Here are the 867 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: four games I pulled out for my quad. It is 868 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 1: slim pickens early. I don't want to say it is 869 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: your window of opportunity because I want people to come 870 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: to the live stream. Okay, just know that I'm kind 871 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: of thinking it if none of the if none of 872 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: the games that we discussed at noon, are really for you, 873 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 1: it's it's like not that deep of a okay slot 874 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: right now, smell Ties twelve o'clock Peacock Illinois at Rutgers. 875 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: Rutgers favored by one. We already played the borderline erotics sound. 876 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: I won't play it again. I had planned to play 877 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: it here, but whatever. 878 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 879 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: Also, twelve noon ESPN two SMU minus nine and a 880 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: half against Virginia. Twelve noon, Big ten Network, We've got 881 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: Iowa minus six and a half on the road at Maryland. 882 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: Twelve noon CW. We've got North Carolina minus three on 883 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: the road at Boston College. Dan. In those games, I'm 884 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: going Illinois because they sold my Rutgers stock a couple 885 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Okay, I cannot put into words why 886 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,760 Speaker 1: smu Uva scares me, but that game scares me. Okay, 887 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 1: and smu on the road with a lot to play 888 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: for Virginia just weirdly pesky. In some of these situations, 889 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: Virginia would be my home dog of the week. I 890 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: won't play the sound again. 891 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 2: They were not weirdly peski against Notre Dame. Not at all, 892 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: we should point out, not at all. 893 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: But the game scares me. I'm on Uva plus the 894 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: points plus nine and a half. Brendan Sullivan out for 895 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: the year for Iowa, so I guess back to Cade McNamara, 896 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: but I still like their defense, so I'd go Iowa 897 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: minus the number, and I go Boston College plus the 898 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: three at home against North Carolina. 899 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 2: I'm Boston College is a better team at home. I'm 900 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: going BC. Virginia is my Tracy Chapman team of the week. 901 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 2: Although we don't think we can afford to roll. 902 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: We do not have the right clips, especially now. 903 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 2: I will say, though Ty, once I started saying like 904 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: the gimme a reason with Tracy Chapman, she had a 905 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: reinvigorated career. Right, somebody covered her song a country. Somebody 906 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 2: did Last Car. 907 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: So I believe it was Luke Colmbs did Fast Car. 908 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I remember liking it. If I listened 909 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 2: to I think it was pretty good. It was again 910 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 2: Tracy Chapman influencing the influencers. I guess I really look 911 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 2: for Virginia because it's such a great spot with how 912 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 2: well SMU has been playing and hosting SMU. I just 913 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 2: couldn't find that reason with Virginia. I just not enough 914 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 2: pop on a win to cover nothing either. Okay, I 915 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 2: think SMU is vulnerable this week, but I don't think 916 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 2: they're vulnerable against this year's Virginia. 917 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: Well, now you're gonna make me play the sound Okay. 918 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 3: The Kers home Dog of the Week. 919 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: That ending always just ruins my day. 920 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: It's that there's something about this game that that feels 921 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: off to me. I'm going UVA plus the points. 922 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 2: I looked at Weather, I could not find Weather. By 923 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 2: the way, it appears the best hot dog in Charlottesville 924 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: is Jack and Jill. If you're in the Charlottesville area 925 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: and looking for a hot dog and ties home Dog 926 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 2: of the week. Yeah, I couldn't pull the trigger. I'm 927 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 2: going to SMU here Boston College SMU What was the other? Uh? 928 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: It's Iowa on the road against Maryland. Yeah, I still 929 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go Iowa here. I don't trust Maryland. 930 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: It's no member. 931 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 2: And Illinois over Rutgers as well, because I enjoy Brian 932 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 2: and the Pat Bryan experience. And there's just as much 933 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 2: as you were surprised by Rutgers beating Minnesota, I'm not there. 934 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: By the way. Also, of note, there are a I 935 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 1: guess pairing of two games that have forty two point 936 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: spreads in this window as well. Oh U Mass at Georgia, 937 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 1: Georgia favored by forty two UTEP at Tennessee Tennessee favored 938 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: by forty two points. 939 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 2: If that's anything, what brave scheduling to you? Next quad? 940 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: My question to you is how bad you're really won place? 941 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: I pulled four games out at the three point thirty 942 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: spot CBS Penn State minus twelve at Minnesota, ABC, Kentucky 943 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: at Texas, Texas favored by about three touchdowns FS one. 944 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: We've got Northwestern at Michigan, Michigan favored by twelve and 945 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: a half and Big ten network. We've got Wisconsin at Nebraska, 946 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: Nebraska favored by two and a half points. Here's why 947 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: I picked these games. I'm ready Penn State Minnesota big 948 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: time scar tissue dating back twenty five years. 949 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 2: I just did a video on this. 950 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this and you haven't seen it yet, 951 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: you can go out to any of our social media channels. 952 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: It's going to be there. 953 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 2: Yep. 954 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: Three point thirty. The Texas at the Kentucky at Texas 955 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: game look ahead spot for Texas with A and M 956 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: on deck yep. The Northwestern at Michigan game look ahead 957 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: game from Michigan now Ohio State on deck. And then 958 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: Wisconsin at Nebraska. This is literally the battle of two 959 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: teams that have new offensive coordinators as of like a 960 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: week ago. It's true, Okay, So there are interesting points 961 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: within each of these games, even if they aren't obvious headliners. 962 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,720 Speaker 1: There are other games in this window. Pit at Louisville 963 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: could be interesting. UCF at West Virginia could be a 964 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 1: fun game to watch, even Missoo at Mississippi State. Mississippi 965 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: State the Van Buren Boys I think are always interesting, 966 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: but agree as for these games. If Penn State is 967 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: actually good. 968 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 2: They should win. 969 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 1: By seventeen points over Minnesota. 970 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 2: Right. 971 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 1: The problem I have with Minnesota in this spot is 972 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 1: because their offense does not offer a whole lot of 973 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: big play potential. It allows Penn State to stack the 974 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: box and bring a bunch of guys close to the 975 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, play really tight man coverage that is 976 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: licensed for turnovers, that is licensed for Penn State creating 977 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: plays with the defense. I think this one looks a 978 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: lot like the Penn State game against Wisconsin a couple 979 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Is a really good Minnesota defense. Penn 980 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: State's not putting up forty. No, this is not like 981 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: a game that Penn State wins via knockout. It is 982 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: a ten round decision that they win and sort of 983 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: grind out, and it leaves everybody feeling unfulfilled. Twenty seven 984 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: to fourteen. They win, win, and barely cover, win and 985 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: barely cover. 986 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,320 Speaker 2: By the way freezing temps in Minneapolis for kickoff in 987 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 2: this one. 988 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: I'll go pull points in that Kentucky Texas game because 989 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: of the rivalry spot. Why not crazy about the Kentucky offense. 990 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 2: But I mean it's a look ahead spot. 991 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, look ahead spot for Texas yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, 992 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: not crazy about Kentucky offensively, but the defense is stout 993 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: and Texas obviously has reasoned the look ahead. 994 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 2: So did you see did you see the Mike Elcho 995 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 2: quote about that game? Mike Elcho and his press are 996 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 2: because texts A and M has I believe Auburn this week? 997 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: Correct? 998 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 2: And he was like, make no mistake, our focus is 999 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 2: on Texas. And he's like, wait, no, it was good, 1000 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,720 Speaker 2: and I believe him that his focus was on Auburn, 1001 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 2: but uh, it was just a slip that he just 1002 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 2: steered right into. 1003 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: Got to watch for the look aheads. Yep, I am 1004 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:49,359 Speaker 1: going points Northwestern plus twelve and a half. Okay, let 1005 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 1: down or because of look ahead potential for Michigan. 1006 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's just also tough, Like Michigan comfortably beating somebody 1007 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: is not something we've seen a lot of this year. 1008 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 2: Give me points, Okay, I'm taking Michigan. I'm gonna give 1009 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 2: those points, but it's not based on a lot of 1010 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 2: track record. 1011 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go Huskers minus two and a half. 1012 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: I think this is a super ugly game. I think 1013 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: they win it by a field goal. I think they 1014 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: get both eligible for the first time. However long I 1015 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 1: think so too. 1016 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,720 Speaker 2: I think Nebraska, somebody's got to win this game. Sixteen 1017 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 2: thirteen seventeen, fourteen thirteen ten go at the home team 1018 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 2: road weariness. Obviously Wisconsin coming off of a huge letdown moment. 1019 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 2: Nebraska certainly let down in the way they lost to 1020 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 2: USC but Wisconsin having that shot against number one team 1021 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 2: in the nation not getting it done. Firing the offensive 1022 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 2: coordinator maybe kind of a suspect hire to begin with, 1023 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 2: given how you know branded the Wisconsin offensive identity is. 1024 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Nebraska to if Nebraska can win, 1025 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 2: which hypothetically Nebraska can win. I don't think there's any 1026 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 2: comfort to this win. It's going to be an ugly, 1027 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 2: ugly performance in a winning effort. 1028 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 1: Let's move to the next time slot, Dan, you have 1029 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: to achieve failure. You have to take it that far. 1030 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to go that far. It's too scary. 1031 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 2: Scan something I got news for you. That's where winning is. 1032 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question, if we are leaning 1033 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 2: into it being shatterday colon hopes and dreams are crushed, 1034 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 2: what is the likeliest hope and dream whose hopes and 1035 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 2: dreams will be shattered. If we are going to brand 1036 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 2: this Shaturday. 1037 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,479 Speaker 1: It could be Texas A and M the first game 1038 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,320 Speaker 1: here of this squad. 1039 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 2: Wow, taking them out of the playoff consideration. 1040 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: Okay, it could be because I do not get this 1041 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 1: point spread. Okay, every week you got a couple of these. 1042 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 1: This is one of them. Texas A and M minus 1043 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: two and a half. That's it against Auburn. Auburn is 1044 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: not good, elite loser that way. We've been calling them 1045 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: I here, not good. Their offense is very limited. They're 1046 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: not really getting blown out, though, and that's the sticking 1047 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 1: point for me. They are good enough somehow, some way 1048 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: to muddy it up. And I just wonder if there 1049 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: is a dual look ahead spot or a singular look 1050 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: ahead spot going on here, because it's not just A 1051 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: and M. They've got a big one coming up at 1052 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: home against Texas. But Auburn's got the Iron Bowl, which 1053 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: we know is very meaningful to them. They've got two 1054 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: games at consecutive weeks now where they could they could 1055 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: ruin somebody's season. This is what I've been saying with 1056 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: this playoff. By the way, even though Auburn is not 1057 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: necessarily playing for a whole lot. At this point in 1058 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: the season, they can absolutely knock A and M out 1059 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: of it. They can definitely knock Alabama out of it. 1060 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 2: I don't think they can, but I'm glad that you 1061 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 2: feel that way. 1062 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: They have a shot. 1063 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 2: I mean they have a shot inasmuch as they are 1064 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 2: scheduled to play against them, and so technically they have 1065 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 2: an opportunity to win that game. 1066 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: But yes, I've got A and M twenty three two fourteen. 1067 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 2: You don't understand the line. 1068 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't understand the line, but I'm going to go 1069 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 1: A and M plus the A and M minus the 1070 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: points twenty three to fourteen. 1071 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a look ahead spot, and maybe that 1072 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 2: has something to do with it. You know, these are 1073 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 2: both beat up, as everybody is. Twenty four seventeen. I 1074 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 2: think they cover A and M. 1075 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: I've also got Alabama minus fourteen at Oklahoma. Maybe a 1076 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 1: look ahead spot for Alabama with the arm Bowl on deck. 1077 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 2: I really like Oklahoma to muddy this out and cover. 1078 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,320 Speaker 1: I love Oklahoma plus the points. 1079 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 2: They're not going to do anything on offense of any consequence. 1080 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: No, no, they aren't. 1081 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 2: Alabama on the road coming off of bye double digit dog, 1082 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 2: what's the line fourteen points in face, double digit long, 1083 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 2: good defense, tough stadium to play in. Yeah, they can 1084 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 2: lose this game by seven to ten points. Sure they 1085 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 2: can tackle Jalen Milroe. Which else you couldn't That was 1086 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 2: Alabama's signature road performance this year. Yeah, or the Wisconsin game, 1087 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 2: I suppose, but signature SEC performance. I think there's a 1088 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 2: little bit of a come down. Alabama twenty three, Oklahoma sixteen. 1089 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't have I have two other games for the squad. 1090 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: I do have some options. You could tell me if 1091 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: any of these jump out to you, Okay, please, Cincinnati 1092 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 1: at k State K State favor by eight and a 1093 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 1: half points. Gimme your lean just quick. Let's just go 1094 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 1: quick here, gimme your lean. Hey State, they're still better. 1095 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Iowa State minus seven and a half 1096 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 1: at Utah, Utah, Utah, ty, I'll go again. They keep 1097 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: losing close because of a good defense other than last 1098 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: week against Colorado, I'll go Iowa State. Actually Utah here, 1099 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: Actually no, I'm going to Utah. 1100 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 2: I like it's a very stupid pick, but they still 1101 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 2: me I'm a sucker for And maybe it's just the 1102 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 2: Oklahoma thing bleeding over like a defense. No matter how 1103 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: bad the offense gets, still gets stops, still makes plays. 1104 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 2: They're not demoralized to the point of just giving up. 1105 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a little that are embers there 1106 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 2: left for me. 1107 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 1: If Vandy beats LSU at seven forty five on SEC network, 1108 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: is Brian Kelly getting fired? 1109 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 2: Where's that game? Game is in LU? 1110 00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: It's in LSU. 1111 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 2: They owe them a lot of money. 1112 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: If they lose at home to Vandy, they're firing Brian Kelly. 1113 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't think they're firing. I think he is on 1114 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 2: the hottest of seats going into next year. 1115 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I think he's cooked. 1116 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 2: They lose at home to Vandy at night, Well you 1117 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 2: couple that with the like sideline stuff, with jawing back 1118 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 2: and forth at a player. It's the vibes are pretty 1119 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 2: down right now at LSU. 1120 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: Did you see the jomboy thing by the way where 1121 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,919 Speaker 1: they did the lip reading and the analysis of the jump? 1122 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I thought I sent it as a joke 1123 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: or as like a real thing. Oh no, this was fabulous. 1124 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: John Boy doesn't work, but this was one of his best. Okay, 1125 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 1: all right, Virginia Tech minus three and a half at. 1126 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 2: Duke I like Duke here. I like them at home. 1127 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 2: I just there's not much I can trust about Virginia 1128 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,919 Speaker 2: Tech at this point, both because of health and because 1129 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 2: of Lake game performance. 1130 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Tech. Why not? 1131 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 2: Okay? 1132 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: Was Zoo minus twelve and a half at Oregon State 1133 00:58:54,720 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 1: the two two holdovers Wazoo lock of the week, making 1134 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 1: a double lock by the way, double lock, yeah, lock 1135 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: of the week. Of all the games I looked at 1136 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 1: this one, it jumped off the page to me as 1137 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: my blck of the week for Wazoo. 1138 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 2: As disappointing as last week was for Wazoo losing to 1139 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 2: New Mexico. Yep, the ability to run straight at through 1140 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 2: and over, the grouping of chemistry tutors on the Oregon 1141 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 2: State defensive line. Yeah, gimme Wazoo. 1142 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: Baylor minus eight and a half at Houston, I'm going Baylor. 1143 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 2: I'm going Yeah. This was another Tracy Chapman moment for me. 1144 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 2: I was trying to find that reason with Houston. I'm 1145 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 2: going Baylor. 1146 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: USC minus five against UCLA and the rivalry ten thirty 1147 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: on NBC DAN. 1148 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 2: That game's in the Rose Bowl. Yes, USC minus five. 1149 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 2: Technically it's not a real road game because it's just 1150 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 2: a crosstown game going and it's not even that far 1151 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 2: downtown to Pasadena. It might even be closer USC to 1152 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 2: Pasadena than UCLA going from Brentwood, not Brentwood, from Westwood 1153 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 2: to Pasadena. I'm gonna go Ucla here. There is something 1154 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 2: that scares me about Jade Mayava and the throws he 1155 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 2: got away without. It's game one for him as a 1156 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 2: starter for USC. I don't know. I think Ucla. I'm 1157 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 2: pretty sure they did a good job on the ground 1158 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 2: against Iowa. Do they really held down Caleb Johnson? 1159 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Right, they did. Do you think that Mayava will at 1160 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 1: all be at all be put off by, at all 1161 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: be intimidated by the raucous home crowd for UCLA? 1162 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this is going to be the one game 1163 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 2: of the year where they actually are raucous, that people 1164 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 2: are going to show up. It's not a Friday night game, right, No, 1165 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 2: this is an actual Saturday game. It's against your crosstown rival. 1166 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 2: UCLA has shown signs of life the back half of 1167 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 2: the season. They are going to show up for the 1168 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 2: USC game. They'll always show up. I know I'm leaning 1169 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 2: into what you're saying Iowa. Caleb Johnson had eighteen carries 1170 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 2: for forty nine yards against UCLA. Now, Brendan Sullivan got 1171 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 2: hurt in that game, and so that the Iowa offense 1172 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 2: was a little bit, you know, discombobulated. I'm going to 1173 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 2: Ucla here as a home dog, and they'll be able 1174 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 2: to stop Woody marks enough on the ground and Ethan 1175 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 2: Garber's will extend enough plays at home. USA as just 1176 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 2: better give me the Bruins here outright, twenty eight, twenty seven. 1177 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm going USC. Okay, thirty one to twenty four. 1178 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 2: Okay, we just agree. 1179 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Final game here in this block that I wanted to 1180 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: call out Colorado State at Fresno Fresno minus three. There 1181 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 1: is ten thirty CBS Sports Network. It's going to be 1182 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: going on as we're doing our livestream, as will that 1183 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 1: USC UCLA game. 1184 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, big implications. 1185 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: This game is huge implications. We talked about it on 1186 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: the Tuesday episode. But Colorado State right now stands to 1187 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: play in that Mountain West title game. This is really 1188 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: the last remaining hurdle for them. It seems as if 1189 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 1: they've got a pretty clear pathway if they can make 1190 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: it through this week. But this is real significance for 1191 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 1: a team like UNLV, which U and LV needs a 1192 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: loss from Colorado State in order to find their way 1193 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: into that Mount West title game. I like Fresno here. 1194 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't loved Colorado State schedule and road games 1195 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 2: against a down air force, a frisky but not great 1196 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 2: Nevada Oregon State and in a losing effort losing to 1197 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 2: Oregon State. And I was a different Oregon State roster 1198 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 2: at the time. I'm going with the home team in 1199 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 2: the San Joaquin Valley. Oo. 1200 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: I like it. That does it? That does it for 1201 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 1: your Week thirteen action, Dan, make sure that you get 1202 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 1: in on our play run the board game. By the way, 1203 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 1: I've been sitting here, I've been trying to think of 1204 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: all right, well, what speaks to the themes of keeping 1205 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: warm and keeping calm and being shatterproof? And why don't 1206 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 1: we give away a one hundred dollars gift card to 1207 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: YETI Oh, I like that. Chatterproof mugs and tumblers and coolers. 1208 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: You can put something in the Eddy that'll keep you calm, 1209 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 1: can also keep it warm, if that's something that you're into. 1210 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 1: YEDDI not a sponsor, absolutely could be. Some of their 1211 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: stuff is a bit pricey. If memory serves so, one 1212 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,919 Speaker 1: hundred dollars gift card goes a long way. You could 1213 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: buy some some fun stuff to take you with take 1214 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: with you to the tailgate. 1215 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 2: Who would you fill up like a gallon yetti tumbler 1216 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 2: with with something calming like cam a meal teal cam 1217 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 2: a meal tea, bring gallon. 1218 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Just maybe maybe some like hard side or something. Keep 1219 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: it warm. That's true, you know something. It's that time 1220 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 1: of year, depending where you're at fair enough. 1221 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 2: I like that. That's a good gift. One hundred bucks 1222 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 2: to YETI. 1223 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Playerun theboard dot com is where you got more information 1224 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 1: on that, Dan. There is one more segment on this show. Yeah, 1225 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: I forgot to jot down the matchups on our shared document. 1226 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 2: I'm looking at them right now, Ty. And it's the 1227 01:03:54,400 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 2: weekend in that big stanky, sloppy slob ring Patriot League 1228 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 2: Drummond five. Yeah, we've got at noon ESPN plus in 1229 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 2: Christy Matheson Matthewson Memorial Stadium, Louisburg, PA. Colgate buck now 1230 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 2: two and nine, Colgate five and six buck Now, Ty, 1231 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 2: what say you? 1232 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm going Goldgate. I'm going Colgate on the road. Didn't 1233 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 1: we have the Gators losing last week because their record 1234 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 1: was so abysmal and then they pulled out a win. 1235 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: Am I thinking of the right circumstance here? 1236 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 2: I think Fordham was abysmal and they pulled out the 1237 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 2: win against Georgetown. Well, two different schools entirely. 1238 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Still give me Coldgate. I'm going You're going Colgate going 1239 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: cold now back in the day out at North Dakota State, 1240 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: So give me Coldgate. 1241 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about the Loo for me. So I'm 1242 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 2: going buck Now. Fordham at two and nine, welcoming Merrimac College. 1243 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 2: It's true, maxin to Jack Coffee Field in the Bronx 1244 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 2: forty seven degrees would kickoff ty chunko. 1245 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna go with that logic. Fordham is on 1246 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 1: a run, Dan, They're looking to be off the momentum 1247 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: from a week ago. 1248 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 2: Let's go Hammies here, Georgetown multi sport field, you know 1249 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 2: how it works. Holy Cross coming in at five and six. 1250 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 2: Georgetown five and five, but holy Cross four and one 1251 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 2: in the pat League, whereas Georgetown's two and three. Ty Yeah, 1252 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 2: what do you think? 1253 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking for Georgetown to end their two game losing streak. 1254 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: I should add they lost forty three to six and 1255 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: thirty one to three in back to back weeks. Now 1256 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: for those playing the home game, that is a margin 1257 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: of seventy four to nine. It has not been a 1258 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 1: good offensive showing, but last week was on the road. 1259 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: Now they get back to the comfy confines of multi 1260 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: sports field. Give me the Hoyas. 1261 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 2: If you know Georgetown football like I know Georgetown football, 1262 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 2: you know that they were showing nothing ahead of this 1263 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 2: game against the Crossaders. Tie. Throw out those matchups. Give 1264 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 2: me Georgetown against Holy Cross as well. Tie. It's time 1265 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 2: turn down the music if you can. Lehigh? What is 1266 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 2: the Goodman Stadium, Bethlehem, PA, Lafayette the matchup YETI six 1267 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 2: and five, two and three in pat League Lehi arguably 1268 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 2: the class of the pat League. Seven and three, four 1269 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 2: and one in the pat League. Get in price for 1270 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 2: those previous three games under twenty dollars? What does it 1271 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 2: take to get into Goodmin Stadium this beautiful Saturday in 1272 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 2: the Lehigh Valley forty six degrees at kickoff? Fifty dollars? 1273 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 2: Tie the headline matchup in Patriot League? What say yo? 1274 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: I was waiting for Phil Collins in the air tonight 1275 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: to come in over the little oop oop oop. 1276 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1277 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: Well, if we didn't have the live stream, I'd be 1278 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 1: going to this game. Really yeah, but we're doing the 1279 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 1: live stream, so not gonna be there. It's right up 1280 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 1: the road. Lehigh is seven and three. They have won, 1281 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 1: i believe, four in a row over the last couple 1282 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 1: of weeks. They have played particularly well. Okay, the resounding victory. 1283 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 1: We could go over Colgate. This is, of course, their 1284 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 1: hated rival, the Lafayette Leopards. I gotta go Mountain Hawks. 1285 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm married into a Lehigh family. You know this, So 1286 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: give me the Mountain Hawks. I got a le High 1287 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: pennant behind me somewhere. Yeah, it would be sacrilegious to 1288 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 1: not go Lehigh. 1289 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 2: You're a fool, tie, You're a fool. You're a damn 1290 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 2: fool tie. Lafayette by one hundred. They are painting Goodman's 1291 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 2: Stadium maroon in white. Don't forget to say I'm sorry 1292 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 2: for picking against Lafayette. Lehi. By the way, he's by 1293 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 2: one hundred. 1294 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Lehigh getting six votes in the others receiving votes category 1295 01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: of the uh the verballer top twelve hole yeah for balltop. 1296 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1297 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: Nice, all right, that does it? Thank you? One and 1298 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 1: all for downloading, for listening, for playing at home. We 1299 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 1: appreciate your ongoing support playerundboard dot com. If you want 1300 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 1: to play sixteen games as the slate, pick them against 1301 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 1: the spread. The winner gets one hundred dollars gift card 1302 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 1: to our friends. Not a sponsor, but absolutely could be 1303 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: out at Yetti to keep you calm, keep you shatterproof, 1304 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,599 Speaker 1: and keep you warm for the remainder of this football season, really, 1305 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: this holiday season, this postgame post game that we're post 1306 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: season that we're going to have here. Yeah, that is 1307 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: going to extend much deeper into the colder months than usual. 1308 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 2: Right, and we'll be doing Winter Wonders again, right, Winter Wonders. 1309 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're working that out right now. So yeah, much 1310 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 1: more to come on the gaming side of things. We 1311 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 1: hope you are here with us. Dan. 1312 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 2: This is a shatter Day, Dan. What is the tagline again? 1313 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 2: Shatterday call in hopes and dreams are crushed. I guess 1314 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm using the passive voice for. 1315 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 1: That guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein for myself, 1316 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Tie hildon Brand, thank you for downloading, for listening again, 1317 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 1: for supporting what we do. Hit follow hit subscribes that 1318 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 1: you don't miss any of our episodes, give us a 1319 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: call eight five five verbal three. Make sure you tune 1320 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 1: in at high noon on the YouTube channel for that 1321 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 1: live stream, and if not, then tune in Saturday night 1322 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 1: at midnight for a week thirteen live Instant Reaction episode. 1323 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 2: Dan Yeah Baby. 1324 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,799 Speaker 1: As always, reballer Hood, Stay Solid, Peace,