1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: So I'm not fashionable enough to be desired by gaming. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so. So it's it's like, you know, 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: in situations like that, don't don't, don't don't. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: I can guess yourself. Don't under has to make your baddy. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: Okay, speaking about talking about did you see that you 6 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: started jameson. 7 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: And ship. 8 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: The motherfucker? Hey? Yeah, yeah. Before we get into that, though, 9 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: we gotta be Internet motherfuckers and introduce ourselves. I feel 10 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: like we've been overlooking at you. 11 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: It's gonna be weird because of my eyes as well. Awesome, 12 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: we're just anyway. Man, Let's go ahead, man, let's let's 13 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: let's do it. But let's do this to the phone one, 14 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: fun the fuck the standard one? You know what I mean? 15 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: You wanna start it off? 16 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: Yes, sweet you, Yes, I'm gonna put on my n 17 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: PR voice. 18 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: Not the m PR one. Let's do the fucking restaurant 19 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: or something like the Transform. 20 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: You wanna do you want? Do you want to do 21 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: the Master Trump Show commercial one of the NPR. 22 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: Boys, Yeah, do that one, do that one. Do the 23 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: Manster Truck Show. 24 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Do the goddamn Master Truck Show. Okay, you are listening 25 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: to Jacobs and Jones, and I am Dragonfly Jones, Jones, Jones, Jones, Jones, June. 26 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: And on the other end is and we are Chickens 27 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: and Jones, Jones, Jones. 28 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: Jones some doors. If you funk with the music to 29 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: the description, you can find music there. If you like us, 30 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: go to iTunes and give us a five star rating. 31 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: If you don't, you know, don't do ship. Okay, okay, 32 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: don't do a damn thing. All right? Anyway, So what 33 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: we that's the hip ja ship? You watch that ship? 34 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? That's it was funny that ship was. 35 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: That ship was wild. 36 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: It was it was some insightles ship there too, Like 37 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: it was. It was funny. It was funny and entertaining, 38 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: which is like my favorite combination and a person ever saw. 39 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: I think, I like, I loved Jaden and do people 40 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: always talk ship? I fun with this dude, man, I 41 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: fuck with Jadon. 42 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: He's I mean, so much of the criticism that comes 43 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: from yeah, because so much other criticism that comes from 44 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: Jayden is like why is this kid so confident? Like 45 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: because he had parents who fucking instill that in him. 46 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: That's fucking great. Why are you turn the skin down 47 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: for what. 48 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: Should what should he be should he be sad and depressed? 49 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: Like should he be you know, second guessing himself all 50 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: the time? Dude, he's a fucking teenager, yells out. He 51 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: tried so much, ship. I respect the fun out of that. 52 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: His dad said. At one point, this dude had like 53 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: this was like a year ago. Is that was like 54 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: Jayden has one pair of shoes. There's one shoe. This 55 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: is this He's not it's not not only are his 56 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: parents millionaires, he's a millionaire. Like he makes his own 57 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: money too, you know what I mean. And he has 58 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: one pair of shoes just like he just didn't see 59 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: the purpose of it. I respect ship like that, dude. 60 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: But he's like fuck everything, dude, you know what I mean. 61 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: He just he just sees he's on his own path 62 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: and he's trying to, you know, find self. Like I whoven, 63 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: who's even thinking like that? At that age? Man, I 64 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: was trying to be like everybody else, you know, like 65 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: that's that's. 66 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: That's yeah, like like en or twenty year old more. 67 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: However they old that kid is. I was fucking terrible 68 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: at that age, bro right. 69 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: I was just trying to be cool, like I was 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: not like I was trying to be a cool nigga, like, like, shit, 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: I respect the fuck out of Jay Man. I funk 72 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: with him, man, But that ship was also like that 73 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 2: ship was wild, bro more there's more ways to shuffle 74 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: a deck than Adams on Earth. That's in insane fact, man, 75 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: that's wild. And then you said something the other day. 76 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: I mean we were talking, but there's more galaxies than 77 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: grains of sand. You said that, he said it, and 78 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: he said sharks. The sharks were here before trees. That's 79 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: is that not crazy, dude? Like, dude, sharks, dude, that's look, 80 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 2: go ahead, you said what you said? What go ahead? 81 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: The fucking like, like, if you really want to get 82 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: into it. It is some weird ship that has a 83 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: bit of merit. Google motherfuckers who say that humans should 84 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: not have evolved to be land dwelling species. That should 85 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: have evolved. It should have like like our aption ship 86 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: should have stopped and when we evolved to being land 87 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: walkers and we should have stayed in the sea. That's 88 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: some interesting ship there, as weird as it sounds, dude like, 89 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of merits there. 90 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: I mean that, dude, like the thing thinking about sharks 91 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: was crazy. Like, it's like, dude, I googled sharks one 92 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 2: day and saw that sharks and they don't have vocal cords, 93 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: bro Like, they don't have they don't, they don't they 94 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: don't have any way of communicating through sound, bro Like. 95 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: It's that's that's that's insane to me. For the fact 96 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: that it's just it just makes them seem even more vicious, 97 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, They're they're a monster underwater. 98 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: They've been here since before trees. They don't even need ship. 99 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: What do I mean? 100 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: They just eat ship? Like what what even here before trees? 101 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: I mean, were trees here when dinosaurs were here? 102 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: Nothing no land life on, you know, except like fucking 103 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: single cell organisms could have existed here without trees. 104 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying, is it isn't oxygen don't don't like these 105 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: Doesn't a shark need oxygen? That just breathe it through 106 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: the water? Does it not need oxygen? Well? 107 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they breathe water. They don't necessarily need 108 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, land oxident to convert that ship like, you. 109 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, what creates so so there's things 110 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: that create oxygen other than trees in the water. 111 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, I mean I mean planet. 112 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: Planet. 113 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: Bro, the water is h two O you know to fucking. 114 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 115 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: So it's like like that's basically what gills are. Gills 116 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: are distillers of hydrogen that just basically turn water into 117 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: oxygen to for circulatory systems, for for aquatic life. 118 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: By man, this ship is existence is crazy, Tyler. Dude, dude, no, seriously, 119 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: we got we got into that hell of far last 120 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,559 Speaker 2: time when we tried to record when the ship kept dropping. 121 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: But like our existence is dude, it's a fairy tale. Man, 122 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: it's just dude, Like it said, it ranged diamonds on Jupiter. 123 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: That's wow, Tyler, come on, bro, what the fuck? There's more. 124 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: There's there's more earth like planets than grains of sand. 125 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: Is that what you said? Yeah, yeah, then grains. 126 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: There there's more planets in the Goldilocks zone that that 127 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: can sting lack and there are grains of sand on. 128 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: The beaches together. Yeah dude, that's like, dude, that's how 129 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: small this planet is, you know. And like I said before, 130 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: like this, that's why it's so hard for me give 131 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: a fuck about so much. That's why it's so hard, bro, 132 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: That's why it's so hard Man, because I realized how 133 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: ministry I am in the grand scheme, like in the 134 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: like in the from the Universals the Universe's point of view. 135 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean, like, dude, I mean it's important. It's like, 136 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's important to to you know, to to 137 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: strive for things and have goals and all that ship. 138 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: But in the end, it doesn't for the most part, dude, 139 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: are all of humanity is a blink of an eye? 140 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? In the Universal Univers's timeline. 141 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: You know, like it's like it's it's we're a blink 142 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: of an eye, you know what I mean. And you 143 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: know there's people here that have done, you know, incredible 144 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: things for mankind, and you know it's important, right, it's 145 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: important to us. But we've been around so for such 146 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: a small amount of time, and we take up such 147 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: a small amount of space in space, right, you know 148 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: what I mean. 149 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's I mean things, man. 150 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's liberating too, because it's like you 151 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: really don't it's not super necessary you know, to get 152 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: about you know. 153 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's if if if anyone who has everly, 154 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: like you know, researched into fucking the possibilities of other 155 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: life and and and of course with that comes the 156 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: discovery of how expansive the universe is, Like you really 157 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: realize how many skew humans are and how and how 158 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: long we haven't been here? Dude, dude, have you are 159 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: you hipped the motherfucking should I might be saying this 160 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: motherfucker's name wrong, the Karsha dev scale or whatever. 161 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: No, nigga, what the fuck it's it's. 162 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: A Russian physicist, right, Russian astrophysicists, So some dude, Yeah yeah, yeah, 163 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: So he just kind of like hypothesized, you know, how 164 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: how advanced the species would need to be to fucking 165 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: travel interstellarly, like like you know, just because you know, 166 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this shit came around in the nineteen like 167 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: fifties or so. Okay, yeah, So so he was kind 168 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: of like like he made like like fucking you know, 169 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, fucking scale one, scale two, scale three type. 170 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: Ship where like I see, I'm seeing it right now. 171 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And he was like, you know, 172 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: the a fucking you know. Phase one civilization is a 173 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: civilization that has harnessed all the energy on their home planet. 174 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: Phase two is someone who has harnessed all the energy 175 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: of their whole star, which is basically their son, which 176 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: is fucking phenomenal to imagine, because right, like because because 177 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: for instance, like the greatest fucking display, the greatest fucking whatever, 178 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: fucking the greatest you know, fucking exertion of inergy that 179 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: humanity has ever done. It is the atomic bombs. And 180 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: they were shaming in Nagasaki, right and they say that 181 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: the sun exerts like six hundred trillion times that in 182 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: one second. 183 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Listen, Tyler, Tyler, we have hit. We're traveling to the moon, Like, yay, 184 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And dude, there's so man, 185 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: that's what life. We look at that every day and 186 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: take that fact for granted. I think we're almost wired 187 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: to take ship for granted. Bro. I think we're almost wired, bro, 188 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: you know, like or maybe we do it on purpose, 189 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: like we just you know, we distract ourselves from the 190 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: reality because it's so hard to imagine. Maybe you know 191 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 192 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like daily like. 193 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: Bad them it should be you know, it'd be dreamed, 194 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: what is it? Yeah? 195 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: And and you know we I think that, I mean, 196 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: we don't have anything to measure our development against as 197 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: as as the human species, you know what I mean. 198 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: And then we discussed before like we've only got seven 199 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: thousand years or so of being a quote unquote advanced civilization, 200 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, if 201 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: you want to, if you want to call it advanced, 202 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: I think that the time where where humanity settles into 203 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: cities and develops written language, I think that's that's pretty advanced. Yeah, 204 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: for sure, you know, and I think right and that 205 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: minus you know, five thousand BC or so. But yeah, 206 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: like and and something that was that I read was like, 207 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: you know, we are sending out fucking signals to try 208 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: to see if there are other alien you know, life 209 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: forms out there in the world. But like, what if 210 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: we are so just far, so far behind that they're 211 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: not even picking up on that ship, like like it 212 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: would it would be the equivalent of us going into 213 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: a place and connecting our phones to Wi Fi and 214 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: the motherfucker's trying to send us morse code. You know 215 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. 216 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 2: What's uh, who's the guy that does cosmos? 217 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: Uh? 218 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: Nail nail tysons drass, Yeah, the fucking do Seki's man, 219 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: This motherfucker's interesting and ship. He was like wasn't he 220 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: a Division one wrestler. 221 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: Some show like that. 222 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Yeah, but he said what keeps them up 223 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: at night is that we're so unintelligent that maybe intelligent 224 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: life has passed us or we haven't. They have had 225 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: the opportunity to encounter us, but they didn't even bother 226 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: interacting with us, because it's like we're sowing intelligent. It's 227 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: like us interacting with a worm, you know what I mean. Yeah, 228 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: we're like, they're like, it's just it's literally they're so 229 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: dumb it's impossible. And he said that bothers the fucking them, 230 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: and dude, it's I mean, I could see that potentially happening. 231 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't. 232 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I mean, I think I think 233 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: the fact that humanity exists isn't is incredible, Like we're 234 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: a species that's on a planet. I mean, I mean 235 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: and and and we don't know how to fuck we 236 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: got here, you know, I mean like completely. You know, 237 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: we have you know, theories and beliefs, belief systems and 238 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: shit like that, but you know, we don't all the way. No, 239 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: you know, we have ideas, you know, we don't know 240 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: what happens after we leave here. I mean, it's it's 241 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: it's our time here is extremely special, you know what 242 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: I mean, every moment I think, I think it's I 243 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: think it's a specialissistance. But I do feel like we're 244 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: fucking dumb, bro. I feel like any species we're racism exists, homophobia, 245 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: shit like that. I think it's just stupid automatically, bro, 246 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: because that's just dumb ass ship. You know, like when 247 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: we when we play so much value on things, it's 248 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: just dumb because they mean absolutely nothing to anything except 249 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: for you know, like there's no true value in it. 250 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: There's no true value. A lot of things we replaced 251 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: of our time and energy and you know what I mean. 252 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but that would kind of assume that 253 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: we are at the peak of our of the human evolution, 254 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: and I don't think maybe and maybe, like if you know, 255 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't I honestly don't think humans 256 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: are gonna last long. They've got like five hundred years 257 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: plus on this planet. 258 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: But maybe in his mindset like one hundred, like we're 259 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: going to fuck ourselves up before Yeah we're up, man. 260 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe in like five thousand plus years, people 261 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: will look at racism and bigotry and prejudice as fucking 262 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: primitive ship and we'll look at us as caveman like 263 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: the same way we kind of look at how fucking 264 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: Homo sapiens eradicated Neanderthals, Like you know what I'm saying. 265 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: So I think, what, did they actually kill them or 266 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: it just they just were breeded out like or they 267 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: just breed it out or I don't know, I don't, 268 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: I don't. 269 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that that At that time, people were 270 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: people were just like, hey, let's just make a campaign 271 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,239 Speaker 1: to not to not marry and cohabitat. 272 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: I think like all the time, I think, you know, 273 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: like white people have me and in them, don't they 274 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: or a percentage of them, I. 275 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: Mean a lot of us, A lot of us shared 276 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: the same you know, DNA, So it will be kind 277 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: of hard to distinguish that though. 278 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was talking about my teacher about that. 279 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you something. I was in class and uh, 280 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: that's there's people were talking about, you know, talking about 281 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: like we're doing they're doing an ad trying to you know, 282 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: rebrand uh MTD cribs. So they're doing they're doing this 283 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: ad and one of the ideas is like, you know, 284 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: there's this is at these are loose just like what 285 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: we call market comps or we're just like drawing our 286 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: ideas and really loose ideas. Nothing real tight. So they 287 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: do some really loosers at the end, like they did 288 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: like a number of campaigns, like a campaign that's like 289 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: reads for each uh uh but basically three executions for 290 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 2: each strategy. Okay, so there's this, there's there's some loose 291 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: executions and strategies. They weren't really tired to any campaign 292 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: and there was like, you know, one of them was 293 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 2: like one of them had to turn thugs in it, right, 294 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: And the teacher said, straight up, this is I mean, 295 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: this is me, me, and there's me and another woman. 296 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: They're from Nigeria, the young lady or whatever. And so 297 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 2: the teachers. I love this teacher. I'm not gonna say 298 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: his name. I don't know if you want me to say. 299 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 2: He knows I have a podcast, so he has one. 300 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: Two but uh he says, I think thugs is a 301 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: new in word regular hell, And they're like what three 302 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: and he's like no, no, you know thugs is a 303 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: new in word, like because the way they said it, 304 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: it was like you know, it seems like they're reversing 305 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: black people. I didn't even really trip off of that much, 306 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: but he was like, you know, he's like, I mean, 307 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: you might not think that, but he said, he's like, 308 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: you know, you need to know that, you know what 309 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: I mean, how you put you know, how you you know, 310 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: especially when you're doing as stuff. You need to know 311 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 2: stuff like that. And dude, me and the black cho 312 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: look at each other and just like laughed like, oh Ship, 313 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: like this old. This motherfucker is hip as fuck, right, 314 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: he's like a new thing. Says what I'm like, Dude, 315 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: you're a funny motherfucker. Man, you straight said that. He 316 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: just shuck like whatever, this is truth, right, And you 317 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: can see like every like all the white people in 318 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: the class are like really uncomfortable. And he's white. He's white. 319 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 2: He's a Jewish white dude, you know what I mean. 320 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: And Black chire just laugh like, oh ship, man, it 321 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: was funny. Yeah, he's a realizer. That really fucking up. Man. 322 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: He's a solid fucking dude. He's a genius when it 323 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: comes to advertisement. Yeah, what we're talking about. Man, I'm sorry, 324 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: I got another tangent. 325 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: But I have no idea but that was that was 326 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: a great story though. 327 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah we were talking about uh, you were talking about 328 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: Neanderthal and like breeding out of Yah. Yeah, but I 329 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: feel like I feel like, you know, like the fact 330 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: that we're like killing our fucking planet to just proves 331 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: how stupid we are too. Like I don't know, why 332 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: don't I ride my bike more places? Like why do 333 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: I drive everywhere? Why don't I walk more? Like walking 334 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: is important? Like I told you I want to walk 335 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: one day, and I'm like, holy shit, Like we don't 336 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: walk anywhere, bro, We just fucking drive every fucking where. 337 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: We're never experiencing the outdoors. We have to we like 338 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: set time to do it, and I mean, I feel 339 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: like it's so important to experience outdoors, Like I never 340 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: feel more, you know, connected to everything when I'm hiking 341 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: or some shit, doing some you know shit like that, 342 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: you know, but we're never outdoors like and so we 343 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: just we just drive everywhere. It's terrible for like the environment. 344 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: You know, I know, like shit like that. 345 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: We know what people don't recycle, like they don't eat 346 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: I have to do why recyclings? You know, I just 347 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: don't believe in it, Like what is there not to 348 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: believe in, Like what is what the fuck? You know? 349 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: I just don't. 350 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: I don't get it, you know what I mean, Like 351 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I just feel like we do 352 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: a lot of dumb shit. Like I mean, animals we 353 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: shot on you know, we I guess you know, we 354 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: don't respect animals as being intelligent. But we're the species 355 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: that's destroying the planet, the most intelligen species. So I 356 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 2: think there's something weird there, right, you know what I mean, 357 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: Like always so smart, we're fucking stupid. I mean as 358 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: far as when it comes to species on Earth, I 359 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: don't know, man, I. 360 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: Mean, like you know, we we just have this whole 361 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: we're just we're just self centered humans where we measure 362 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: intelligence on our scale all the fucking time, like and 363 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, like like like we discussed before, 364 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: like the fucking universe is fourteen billion years though we've 365 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: only been around for like fucking two hundred fucking fifty 366 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: thousand years of that, Like you know what I'm saying. 367 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: So who, So we don't know if fucking aliens contacted 368 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: us and when Earth was seven billion years old and 369 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: came here and saw that there wasn't shit, but fucking 370 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: huge azz dragonflies that were fucking five feet big. You 371 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It said fuck this place and 372 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: all that. 373 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 374 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're just so self centered that we think 375 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: if aliens haven't contacted us in the in the fucking 376 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: blip of a radar where we had written history, that 377 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, it hasn't possibly happened, which is fucking so 378 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: self centered. And another thing is we measure animals intelligence 379 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: by how human they are. You know what I'm saying, 380 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: That shit always fucking trip me out, like dude, Like 381 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, like like, for instance, dude, dolphins, Dolphins talk 382 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: to each other, you know, you know, dolphins do the 383 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: echolocation where they're just kind of sent ow shit and 384 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: see what masters back to them, so they know where 385 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: like fish and shit are. They communicate to each other 386 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: with images of what shit looks like on their echolocation. 387 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: Like if a dolphin wanted to tell another dolphin there's 388 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: a fish here, a dolphin would sin and a fucking 389 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: sonic image to another dolphin of what a fish looks 390 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: like when it disrupts their echolocation, which is fucking more 391 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: far advanced than any you know, any human, right, that's 392 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: so far that would be like if we could project 393 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: fucking holographs to holograms to each other, dude. 394 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: In our brains, right, And they do. 395 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: They do that ship like like a dolphin communicates to 396 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: a dolphin by saying, hey, there's a fish over here 397 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: by sending him in a sonic image of a huge words. 398 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: They straight put images in their brains. 399 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: Right. That's insane, bro, that's wowd bro. 400 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: That is they fucked for like you know joy too. 401 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they fucked the pleasure. They they rape, They're they're 402 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: pretty sodistic too. They rape and they murdered too. 403 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: So he was talking about just once. She made a 404 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: great point. It was funny. I mean, it wasn't funny 405 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: at all, it was. It was funny though because it's 406 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: it's how true it was. But she was saying, you know, 407 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: niggas lose their mind when they see a man kiss 408 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: a man, but to watch the rape scene like it 409 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: ain't ship on television, right, And I've always like that's funny. 410 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: I was. I'm not funny, but I was at the movie. 411 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: I was at the movies with with Adrian and with 412 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: Adrian and like my lady or whatever, and uh, I remember, 413 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: like we were watching Last House on the Left, like I. 414 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: With my girl at that time that she was like 415 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: two thousand matter. So yeah, that was the most uncomfortable 416 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: ship I've ever seen them with my head like a. 417 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: Child, I covered, I covered my head with my hoodie 418 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: and then I plugged my ears. And the chicken I 419 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: was with, she just rushed out of the fucking like that. 420 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: She just couldn't. She just couldn't handle it, and I 421 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: had to console her outside of it. But like even 422 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: when I was a kid, like I would get like, 423 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I got sisters. My favorite people in this 424 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: world are women, you know what I mean, Like like 425 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: the I'm just I just I can't. I can't watch 426 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: that ship man, like it makes me want to fight. 427 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: I just hate it, you know what I mean. It 428 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: disgusts me. I think it's I think it's equally as 429 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: bad as murder Man. You know when you realize like 430 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: how it affects the people afterwards, you know, I mean, dude, 431 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: you're changing their lives completely. Bro, It's a despicable fucking act, 432 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: you know. And I just can't see it done on television, 433 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: Like it's just I just I don't I don't know 434 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: what murder on television does not bother me as much 435 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: as Rake, Like, like seeing somebody get killed on TV 436 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: does not bother me as much as rap. I just 437 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: I just can't watch it. 438 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 4: Bro. 439 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: I'll walk out of a room, like ever since I 440 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: was a kid, like, Mama, what's wrong with you? Like 441 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: she knows, she gets it, but it's. 442 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: Just like I just can't. 443 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: I just can't watch that ship, bro. But not to 444 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: say I'm any better than it. It's just I get 445 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: that was a funny point. You know. That's a funny point. 446 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: Like people are tripping over moonlight and shit like that. 447 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: Like even like on Facebook, bro, like I'm seeing like 448 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: the most ignorant comments from people, young folks. 449 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: Man. 450 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, bro, y'all have kids, y'all gonna raise 451 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: some more idiots. 452 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: That's the worst part of this. Like I don't like 453 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: I am not in the the business of converting adults, 454 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: but like, if you're spreading this poison impressionable kids, man, I. 455 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: Saw something that was funny on Facebook today, this one 456 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: she was talking about Like she was talking about her 457 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 2: kids and she ones in elementary school, like played when 458 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: they're playing tag, they don't say you're it. They say, 459 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: you're Trump. That was funny. It's okay. They know he's 460 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: fucked up, you know what I mean, so they'll hopefully 461 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: do better. You know that shit he's doing as fucked up. 462 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: You know. So I thought that was cool. But yeah, 463 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: I'm seeing that ship like damn. Like, but she made 464 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: that point. I was like, damn, like that is an 465 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: interesting point, Like and this dude is just at this 466 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: one guy. I mean, he probably just want a idiot. 467 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: Don't think most people feel this way. He's like, you know, 468 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: rapist fake Like you know, dude's kissing is nasty, like 469 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: you know, like like the raping the show. Yeah, it's fake, 470 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: like those they kissed when the dudes kissing like they 471 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: weren't really like you know, fucking. 472 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, like you know, it's like I don't know, man, 473 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't motherfucker. 474 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: It's just a dumb statement. It's just stupid, you know 475 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, but like I told you that 476 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: one dude walked out. 477 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: I did. 478 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: I thought he was just a weirdo and he walked 479 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: out of the movie. I mean they called me out 480 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: guard too. But I was like, you know, I wasn't like, 481 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 2: oh shit, like you know, like he walked out, didn't 482 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: he did? What fuck it didn't come back? 483 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 484 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: And I'm just saying like I was saying that. 485 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: He was like, okay, you know, he told all fucking 486 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: thirteen of his Facebook friends that he walked out on 487 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: his right right And then I saw. 488 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: Another another dude on Facebook talking about how I got 489 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: at that point. He was like, yeah, they love showing. 490 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: It's like that, you know, all that bullshit, you know 491 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: what I mean, so many comments agreeing with them, and 492 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: it's like it's just frustrating, dude, Like I see the 493 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: dumbest shit like every day on like social media. Man, 494 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: Like I mean, I don't. I'm I feel like, you don't. 495 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: You don't. You don't have to you know, you don't. 496 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: You don't have to agree, you know, with how people live, 497 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you don't have to agree. 498 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: And and and like I don't, I don't. Why do you? 499 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: Why do you? Why why do you even have an 500 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: expressing that opinion like they like how it's disgusting, Like no, bro, 501 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: you just don't. You just don't agree with it. You 502 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: just it's not for you. That's fine, bro, you know, 503 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: like nobody's trying to you know, nobody's you know, begging 504 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: you to be gay. There's enough good looking motherfuckers out here, niggas, 505 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: Ain't you know what I'm saying. Like I've been hit on, 506 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 2: been dudes have said I was good looking. They've never 507 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: hit on me, though, you know, you know what I mean. 508 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm flattered. I'll take it from anybody. I don't go 509 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: fuck you know, fucking the dog will bark in a 510 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: way that makes me feel like thank you, you know 511 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I don't give a fuck who 512 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: tells me I'm good looking? Yeah, I've never been hit on. 513 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: I mean that's there's enough good looking motherfuckers. Like nobody, 514 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: nobody wants you, bro, you know what I mean. Like 515 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: everybody just feels so attacked by he's like you know 516 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: this movie or like, you know, gayness. It seems like 517 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: when they talk about it, like they're attacked by it, 518 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: like it's like it's you know, like it's it's it's 519 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: it's something like it's an attack on them and who 520 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: they are, and say it's just ridiculous, man, you know, 521 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 2: like I don't, I don't know. Why why do you care? 522 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: Why do we care? 523 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: Listen? Man, like like like and and and then motherfuckers 524 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: felt well, I just don't understand it. Look, I don't 525 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: understand why a man will want a man either, because 526 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: men we're fucking disgusting. Okay, So that's also CRUI. 527 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: Is the fact that you really gotta love a nigga 528 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: a nigga, bro, because to choose a nigga, bro, there 529 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: got to be some love. The not only always disgusting. 530 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: We ain't ship, bro. We we always talk about it 531 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: were boring, you know what I'm saying. We we fucking hairy, Doug. 532 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like we we we aren't 533 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: as smart as the people I know. The most of 534 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: people I know are women, you know what I mean? Like, 535 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: I just don't like you. It's just love, Doug. 536 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and women women are so much better love than 537 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: men are, dude, Like for sure, Like you know what 538 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like like I have, I have the women 539 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: in my life have been so expressive and so nurturing, 540 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: and so you know, fucking. 541 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: They teach us, bro. We we like the women we've dated, 542 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: like they teach us how. 543 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: To love bro right right, And it's like it's like, 544 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, I mean my homeboys, you know, we know 545 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: we love each other, but it's like some ship that 546 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: we say to each other like once every like you know, 547 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: motherfucking like every every other year or so. You know, 548 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: it's not like we we have we tell each other 549 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: we love each other every time we talk to each 550 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: other and some ship. 551 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: You know. 552 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: But women are just if women are are fucking better 553 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: at fucking well, the way women love is better than 554 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: the way men love. You know what I'm saying. 555 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: They appreciate. So they appreciate Like I was like, my 556 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: lady's coming and I'm like, I'm I need to clean 557 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: my room. You're gonna clean your room for me. I'm 558 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: like the dog. It's like yeah, I mean like they 559 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: appreciate such regular ship. 560 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: Listen, man, listen listen. I'm gonna take something like one time, 561 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: me and my girl, we we went to a waffle 562 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: house about goddamn like like two or three in the morning, 563 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: and we was we was waiting in line for like 564 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: thirty forty minutes. She's like, I'm just ready to go home, 565 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: and she was like, you know, she was really hungry 566 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. So we got to the crib and she 567 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: was like, you know, she went to sleep, and I 568 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: just said, well, you know, I was still up. I 569 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: was still you know, you know, hyper and ship. So 570 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: I got damn cut your some breakfast. 571 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: She came. 572 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: She came in the fucking kitchen and cried, dude, because 573 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking for her breakfast. 574 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: That's so beautiful though, man, she was so appreciative. She 575 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: don't like damn, bro, they don't appreciate. 576 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, like to that like dog, Look if. 577 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: Watch don't need to eat the food with you, right right? 578 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: Me and homies with mom. 579 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: Find to eat. 580 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: And we went back to my home boy's crib and 581 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: and he cooked for us. We wouldn't have cried for 582 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: that motherfuck we were so we would have told him 583 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: what we wanted, how we wanted that ship, you know, 584 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: and what he needs to do with ship. 585 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: I appreciate you appreciate it, right, don't even look at 586 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: that nigga when he had you the food. Take your food. 587 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: Still watch the TV and just put your arm out 588 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: you feel me, Yeah, and think about this there like 589 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: one thing. I just I'm so appreciative and I try 590 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: to return the favorite to this man. Like a lot 591 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: of times when I get cooked, like the woman w 592 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: woman cooks for me, she'll bring my plate to me, 593 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: like talk, that's just something you know, Like I tried 594 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: to try to do that when I cook, you know 595 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: what I mean, just off the ship that it's been 596 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: done to me, that's something I would even have thought 597 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: to do, you know what i mean, like make the play. 598 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, the fool's ready, I grab a plate, 599 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: I go to the back room. You know what i mean? 600 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: Right? 601 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: You know, Like but like that's just like things like 602 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: that man with like you know, I'm taught how to 603 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: appreciate it. I'm taught, you know, like you know, how 604 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: to express myself, how to speak, because I mean, dude, 605 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: like I'm I'm a nigga dog. Like if I'm feeling 606 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: a certain way, I just I just I just feel 607 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: that way till it goes away. I don't talk about it, 608 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, hardly ever, I'm like, yo, 609 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: you know what you know that that that made me 610 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: feel someone, I'll never say that ship like. 611 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: I I mean, I'm the same way. And it's not 612 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: like I fucking internalized ship. Like I just deal with 613 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: it on my own terms. 614 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: And I get that ship out of. 615 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: Me the way I get it out of me. You 616 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 1: know what I mean, so it's like, and that's why 617 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm fucking terrible when it comes to being like a 618 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: fucking consultant when bad she goes down, because I don't 619 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: know what the fuck to say to people, because I 620 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck I would want to say 621 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: to me because when she goes down, I want to 622 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: be left alone. You know what I'm saying. 623 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: Literally, is a lot of times when sh it goes down, 624 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: like there's really nothing that can be said to me 625 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: to make me feel better. I do like when people 626 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: are like, yo, I'm I'm here for you. That's that's 627 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: that's that's cool, you know what I mean. But like 628 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: I just say, you just have to like digest it. 629 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: You have to like for me. I don't know what. 630 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's not everybody. Some people like 631 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: to get out, some people like to you know, communicate. 632 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: I have to like understand it, you know what I mean. 633 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: I have to like understand things. So, like a lot 634 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: of times when I'm just super quiet because I just 635 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: have a lot going on in my head and I 636 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: have to like this, I have to figure it out 637 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: and then I can express myself. But even though the 638 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: expression part due there's times in like past relationships where 639 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: you know, like we're discussing stuff and my head feels 640 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: like it's not a pop bro, Like it's not it's 641 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: just a weird like it's a weird anxiety feeling where 642 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: I just I just don't want to talk about my emotions, 643 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We're almost in anxiety from it, 644 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: dog and you know, and it's it's it's just so weird, 645 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: and I have to be I have to be taught, 646 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: like how important it is. Like I'm a grown ass man. 647 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: A woman is teaching me to speak my fucking mind. Bro, 648 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: you know what I mean to talk about like how 649 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: I feel and making my talking about my feelings out 650 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: there there they're you know, relevant, I think a lot 651 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: of time, but I've always known the depression, Like sometimes 652 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: my feelings are just bullshit, like you know what I mean, 653 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: like that it's not they're not real like you know 654 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: sometimes but you know, like and so like I just 655 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: feel like sometimes my feelings just like fuck them, you know. 656 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: And sometimes you know, like sometimes they're real and I 657 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: need to address them a lot of times I'm just 658 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: just my mind is telling me something that's made me 659 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: feel away and it's not that, and it's not really 660 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: how what's going on? 661 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: You know? 662 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: Am I making any sense at all? 663 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Like, I mean, the thing is, I think we 664 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: want to hear condolences that that are reflective of how 665 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: we choose to grieve, you know what I mean? Like 666 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, like like if someone conveyed some shit to me, 667 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: that's basically, I'm here if you need me, but I'm 668 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: gonna give you your space. I'm gonna let you have 669 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: you but you know, I'm here if you if you 670 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: need me, feel free to reach out. Like that's perfect 671 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: to me, dude, But but some people want to hear 672 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: shit like you know, I'm gonna stay on top of 673 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: you and make sure you're okay. And that's fine too. 674 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: That's not the way that I choose to you know, 675 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: fucking to to to fucking grieve and cope with ship. 676 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: But that's fine if some people want to hear that 677 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: because that's how they choose to grieve and cope. 678 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: I honestly don't. But when people tell me I'm gonna 679 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: make sure you're okay, I just I don't. It doesn't 680 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: mean anything to me. 681 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: It's a lie. 682 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: Really, you can't make strong Okay, you know what I mean, 683 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: you really can't, like I have to get through this, 684 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: you feel me, right, It's not like it's not like 685 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: I don't appreciate the sentiment, but it's just bullshit, like 686 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 2: you're really thinking about what you're saying, you know what 687 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 2: I mean, Like you can't. I can't like I can't. 688 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: You can't make sure anybody else is okay, man. And 689 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: that's that's the one thing I'm scared that that scares 690 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: me by having kids and shit too, Like you can't 691 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: make sure anybody's okay, you know, like people have to 692 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: live life for themselves and figure things out for themselves, 693 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: you know, like have to get through things on their own. 694 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: Like you can be there and be support them. But 695 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: I mean like that when you're going through something, man like, 696 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: I think you know, time definitely helps, but when you're 697 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 2: in the thick of it, man like, it's just hard 698 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: sometimes to just there's nothing anybody can do or say 699 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: to make you not feel a certain way. You just 700 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: gotta just gotta continue, you know, each step, you know, 701 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: trying to get through the ship day by day. You know, 702 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 2: like you can't, like you can't make it better for me. 703 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: You can't make shit better for anybody. 704 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean exactly? I mean it's the 705 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: whole you know, make me happy? Shit, It's like I 706 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: don't like like when I hear that ship and people's 707 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: fucking discussions about of what an idea relationship is or 708 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: whatever you know make I'm like you. 709 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 2: The fuck? 710 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: Do you think you are right? 711 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 4: Like you? 712 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: You want someone else to make you happy? You realize 713 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: how absurd that it is? Like I don't even I 714 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: don't even fully know how to make myself happy most 715 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: of us, don't you know what I'm saying? That you 716 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: want me to make You want me to be something 717 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: for my happiness and your happiness. I can. I can 718 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: promise you. I will never neglect you. I will never 719 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, fucking disrespect you. I will never take you 720 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: for granted. 721 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: But make you happy. 722 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: That is something that comes from within you. I have 723 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: no control over that. 724 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: Are you happy? 725 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: I'm content? I have moments when I'm very happy. I 726 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: have moments where I I have moments. My happy moments 727 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: far outweigh my depressed moments, so you know, for whatever 728 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: that counts, I'm. 729 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: A happy motherfucker in general. Man, And my mom always 730 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: talks about that, Like when shit happens, I feel like, 731 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: as long as I'm breathing, I'll figure it out, right, 732 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 2: That's just how I feel, like I don't really necessarily 733 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 2: like happiness to me is weird though, Like I'm not, 734 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 2: like I don't, I don't need to. I don't, Like 735 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm alone in my room, not 736 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: talking to anybody, and I'm happy, and it might not 737 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: look like happiness, but it's happiness to me, you know 738 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like having like having time to myself, 739 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 2: you know, or like I don't. I don't like I don't. 740 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: It's so weird, Like I don't have to go out, 741 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: none of that ship like having having time to myself, 742 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: being around loved ones. That's all. That's all that really matters. 743 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: When we talked about this last But like, you know, 744 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: like the only reason we want money is to be 745 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: around people we give a fuck more than people we 746 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: don't give a fuck about, you know what I mean? 747 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: Exact like money allows you the opportunity for the freedom to, 748 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 2: you know, to to when you when you're gonna be 749 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 2: around people, to make sure that the people you give 750 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 2: a fuck about, you know what I mean. Like that's 751 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: that's what's awesome about you know that, Like I can, 752 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: I can go see my grandmother anytime I want, my 753 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: little brother, my fucking mom, dude. You know, like obviously 754 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: my mom since like March, I need to go like soon. 755 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, like like you can, you can. You know, 756 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: that's that's the only reason money matters. But like I'm 757 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: I guess, happiness to me, it's just like I don't know, 758 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: I just I just I just feel nothing really gets 759 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 2: me too too down. Like I just I feel like 760 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: I get I'll get down for like a time period, 761 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: but it just it doesn't I've learned not to get 762 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 2: super down about ship because I just know, like I'm 763 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 2: gonna have days where I just it's just everything's just difficult. 764 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 2: I know that, you know what I mean, right, and 765 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 2: living long enough, you just know that those days it's 766 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: a it's a short period of time. It really tripped 767 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: me out though. It's like how when you're in a 768 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: good period and you just want to like you know, 769 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 2: just like oh let me just let me this. I 770 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: need to drag this out as long as possible. Like 771 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 2: something you have like say say you're going on vacation, 772 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 2: that's just a weird thought. This is a round thought. 773 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 2: But so you're going on vacation, your vacation for a week, 774 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: you know, and like you're like the time. You know, 775 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: time usually flies, but you wanted to go slow. You like, 776 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 2: let me enjoy these moments, let me get caught up 777 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 2: in the in the now and all that ship because 778 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: you know it's gonna fly, but you want like time 779 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: to sw down. But there's somebody somewhere wishing that time flies, 780 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, all in the same clock, 781 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And there's somebody someone wishing 782 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 2: to I can't wait for this or the wishing time away. 783 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,439 Speaker 2: I wish so much of my life away. 784 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 4: Man. 785 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 2: It's just it's just kind of weird to me. But 786 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: I just thought that, like you know, like when I'm 787 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 2: like I'm looking forward to something, or I'm just I 788 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: couldn't go get way to get through this week, you know, 789 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 2: because this is this is a busy ass week at school, Like, 790 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 2: let me just get through this fucking week. I can't 791 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: wait till Thursday night. But there's somebody who's having a 792 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: great what's fucking on vacation or whatever, like damn about 793 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: to leave, and I'm wishing their time away. I don't know, 794 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 2: it doesn't really affect the time, but it's just interesting 795 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: to me, you know what I mean, It's an interesting thing. 796 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, because that's the thing. Happiness is. 797 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: Happiness is a high. It's something that is fleeting. It 798 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily last a long time, you know. I you know, 799 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: I think being content is a much more realistic aspiration. 800 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: And people look at that like, oh, you're true, you're 801 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: saying very difficult. Yeah, I know, no, no, motherfucker. Like, 802 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: happiness is a high, it's not sustainable for a very 803 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: long period of time. 804 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 2: Maybe content. Being content is happiness to me. I feel 805 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: happy when it is. 806 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: It is to me too. 807 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need to be jubilant, you know. Actually 808 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: sometimes I'll be I'm super happy. Kind of freaks me out, 809 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: it is. 810 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: It is because the whole time you think that that 811 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna last longer, then you get sad, Like 812 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: that's how happiness worries, right, And. 813 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 2: I'll be thinking, like why am I so happy right now? 814 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just not all the way comfortable with it, 815 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 2: Like if I'm like sometimes I'll be happy as fuck, 816 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 2: like dumb happy, like goofy alone with the crib and 817 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: I'll be wondering, like, what is it that's making me 818 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 2: feel this way right now? It's almost uncomfortable, you know 819 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 2: what I mean? And I'm just I just I almost 820 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 2: like the feeling of being content rather than being like 821 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: super jubilant. 822 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, like I said, that ship's a 823 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: high man and highs aren't sustainable. 824 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 2: We're about that hour in. We haven't touched the fucking subject, 825 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: and I don't think we should. Hey, you don't give 826 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 2: a fuck about the Oscars. I talked to my teachers. 827 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 2: I talked my teacher, Dude, this is why I love 828 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: this motherfucker man. It's a dude, this motherfucker I love 829 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 2: this motherfucker man. We were in class and he brought 830 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: up the Oscars and I was like, oh shit, fuck, 831 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about this, right And so 832 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 2: he says, I tried to watch it. I told you. 833 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I try to be an adult watch it, 834 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: but I was like, it's just so fucking boring. He said, 835 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 2: I tried to watch it. I just fell asleep. He's like, 836 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 2: it's so boring. I looked at him, fucking I said, 837 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: why is it so boring. He said, I don't know. 838 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: I said my eyes were burnt. He said mine weren't 839 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 2: burning because mine were closed. I'm like, it's a big ass, 840 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 2: I say. And the other one when we talked about 841 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 2: how I don't give a fuck about awards because it's pointless. 842 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything to me. Awards don't mean shit 843 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: to me. It's good to be told that he's good, 844 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 2: to be accepted and all that shit, I guess or 845 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 2: whatever whatever, But I don't give a fuck about a 846 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: lot of that. I don't. I don't give a fuck 847 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 2: about it, man, you know what I mean. And he said, 848 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 2: and this what he said. He said, I just don't 849 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 2: understand awards shows. I almost kissed this fucking white man 850 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 2: dude like me, neither. It's a bigg ass, fucking circle jerk. 851 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 2: He said, it's the biggest circle jerk. And he said, 852 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: this is the trip he would go to ad awards. 853 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 2: He's like, I said, he's genius, He's won some great 854 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 2: he's won some important awards from the city's work. He's done. 855 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 2: And he said what he would always trip him out 856 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 2: was he realized the only people that gave a fuck 857 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 2: about the award he one, whether people in the room, 858 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: nobody else, the people who are in the room, the 859 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: fucking at the at the wards shop, only they gave 860 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 2: a fuck, you know. 861 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: What I mean? 862 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: And oftentimes when somebody won, the only people that would 863 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 2: clap me the people the people like the company he 864 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: worked for, they'd be super It's like nobody really even 865 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 2: gave a fuck about it if they didn't win. And 866 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, Dawn, that ship is pointless. Bro, those are 867 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: those award shows. I don't get it. Like I'm so thankful, 868 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 2: Like I mean, I be thankful about the increase in 869 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: money and work that I'm a good for winning, but 870 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: like like I don't give a fuck about people thinking 871 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: I'm good or bad at ship, like in particular, I mean, 872 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: not like people within the business, you know what I mean, 873 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't care, like do the people 874 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 2: that fuck with my ship? Like like like I don't, 875 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 2: I just I just I just feel like okay, like 876 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 2: like like this this is the teachers I sell and ship, 877 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like the feeling I give 878 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 2: when people like people that actually purchase, I prepreciate every 879 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 2: fucking purchase. 880 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: Bro. 881 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 2: It feels good that somebody like relates to me because 882 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 2: I feel a certain way, like a lot of the 883 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 2: ship that I create is like, you know, a reflection 884 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 2: of of of me in some way, you know what 885 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 2: I mean. And I I appreciate that She's like, damn, 886 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 2: you actually fucked with it to the point of purchasing 887 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: a fucking shirt, you know what I mean. That's cool 888 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 2: to me than like winning an award for design. I 889 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 2: would not give a fuck about that. What it awarded 890 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 2: mean nothing to me, you know what I mean. But 891 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 2: like people actually connected created It's what's dope to me, 892 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, not necessarily like somebody analyzing 893 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 2: it from a fucking design aspect and giving me a 894 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 2: that award. Would it wouldn't have in the back of 895 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: my closet, like underneath my gym shoes, you know what 896 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean. Yeah, she doesn't mean anything. 897 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: To me, but I mean, but but but these oscars 898 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: were different, man, Like Moonlight feels like a once in 899 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: a generation movie. Brock Fences was was was was a 900 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: fucking was phenomenal from Beel and Denzel. 901 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: You know. 902 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: You said what Fences, Yeah. 903 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 2: It was incredible. These are movies that I've never like. 904 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 2: And then like the dialogue, offences, you know, the dialogue 905 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 2: and the monologue, you know, like when it's just when 906 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: when Denzel would just go off on something like you know, 907 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: long monologue and it was. 908 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: Just yeah, it was it felt like a play without 909 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: man overbearing, like a play. Yeah, you know, it was 910 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: a great adaption of that quality ship. 911 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 2: Man. I mean, there were some good ass fucking movies, 912 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: you know, Black People and quality fucking movies, and you know, 913 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 2: like for a while, it just seemed like everything that 914 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 2: came out was really there's like there's there's nothing against 915 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: Tyler period. I mean, he's making his money, you know, 916 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 2: and there's and there's a there's a fan base for it, 917 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 2: so you know whatever. My mom the most brilliant woman, 918 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: I know, you know, like she's she's a she she 919 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 2: watches autumn trash ass shows. She loves trash fucking movies, 920 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But like it's like every 921 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 2: movie that came out with Black People was that type 922 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 2: of movie, it seems, you know what I mean, or 923 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: some corny ass fucking like like This Christmas was not 924 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 2: really corny. I actually liked the movie, but it's corny, 925 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But like, you know, these 926 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 2: are complex movies, man. Interesting I'm learning. I'm learning, dude. 927 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 2: Fucking Fisers were so cool because that's life, bro, Fences 928 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 2: is life. It's not necessarily a happy ending, not necessarily 929 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: sad either. It's just is sometimes, you know what I mean, Like, 930 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, like it just is, you know, like fucking moonlight, dude, 931 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 2: I dude, it taught me a side of humanity that 932 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 2: I never thought existed. It showed me, you know what 933 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 2: I mean, And like I thought about that struggle in 934 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 2: a way that I was like, damn like that. I 935 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: thought about it in a way that I never imagined, 936 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 2: you know, Like I was like, Wow, like this person 937 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: when he said he hadn't been touched since high school, 938 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: this is a grown ass man, Bro, nobody's touched me 939 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 2: since you like, he didn't. He never opened up again. 940 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 2: He became a sexual bro, you know what I mean, 941 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 2: after one experience and then all the other shit in 942 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 2: life that he struggled with, you know what I mean? 943 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 2: On top of that, can you imagine, bro? I couldn't 944 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 2: imagine in that type of inner turmoil, and you have 945 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 2: nobody to express it with, you know what I mean. 946 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 2: It's just dog man, Like I get hurt. If my 947 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 2: chicks go to the bed and ain't got a booty out, bro, 948 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 2: like i'd be, I'll be hurt, Like, damn you we 949 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 2: got we got panties on. Are we not in love? 950 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 951 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 2: What the fuck this nigga's going? He's in a food 952 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 2: grown adult well into adult years, without touch you know 953 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 2: what I mean, without expressing himself showing love after one 954 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, bro, heartbreaking story, you know what 955 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 2: I mean. And yes, it was two men showing love. 956 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 2: But love is beautiful in all forms than me. Man, 957 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 2: it's love. I don't see like I don't. I don't 958 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: see two men like I don't. I don't see. I don't. 959 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: I like when when the old dude was console them 960 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 2: and like rubbing his head, I didn't see two men there. 961 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 2: I didn't. I just I was happy old boy was 962 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: getting it was was was getting like affection, you know 963 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: what I mean. And I think, and that's interesting they 964 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 2: put like I think, dude, you're gross, you know what 965 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 2: I mean. But like to see like that's that's how 966 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 2: good of a movie was. Where you look past like 967 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 2: you're the stupid ship you feel sometimes and like just 968 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 2: saw love and how important it was and you know 969 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 2: how you know, like how hard it is for many 970 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 2: people to be themselves in this world. Man, I mean, 971 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 2: how how does that not touch you? You know, like 972 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 2: and then like the hood nigga like it just to 973 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: see like a drug dealer, you know, talking about talking 974 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 2: to you know, the main character, what's his name, a 975 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: shot shots far s, Yeah, talking to him when he 976 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 2: was the young you know, young Sharon and asked him 977 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 2: about his you know, he's asking about, you know, being gay, 978 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 2: and he says he's not. You know, you ain't the 979 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 2: F word. You just gay, you know, like we're talking 980 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 2: about like if people that feel that way, you don't 981 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 2: have to be an F word, you know, like you 982 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 2: just you're just gay. But this is like this is 983 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 2: a drug dealer who was shown. I mean that's just 984 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 2: and that's a trust me out too, Like when I 985 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 2: was when I was younger and I didn't have I 986 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 2: grew up in the suburbs in the country for the 987 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 2: most part, like you know some you know, Knoxville, Tennessee, 988 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, Hunts Allabama. These are like you know, this 989 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: is like elementary is like this third grade to like 990 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 2: college years. You know, like when I was living in 991 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 2: Cali and Colorado all that shit. I was in Saint 992 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 2: Louis at the first time I was there, I was 993 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 2: super young. You know, before that was like three states 994 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 2: up with the upsecon grades, so I didn't really know shit. 995 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 2: But you know, growing up down there, like I didn't 996 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 2: have access to a lot of shit. So all I 997 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 2: had was the television, you know what I mean. So, 998 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 2: like moving back to Saint Louis, and you know, a 999 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: lot of my friends are from the hood. 1000 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 4: Hood. 1001 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 2: My best friends from like one of the worst areas 1002 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 2: in Saint Louis, you know, one of the worst areas 1003 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 2: at that time when he grew up there in the nation. 1004 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 2: My family grew up in that area, you know. And 1005 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 2: you know seeing like you know, drug dealers and you know, 1006 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of my family that you know, 1007 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 2: I'm the only person that hasn't gone to Jell other 1008 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 2: than my uncle. You know, like most of them was 1009 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 2: for drugs. And I'm talking to them and like, you know, 1010 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 2: these are great depth amount, they're solid people. It's just 1011 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 2: that's how they got money, that's how they supported their family. God, 1012 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, It was that it was 1013 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 2: a job to them. You know, it's it's a dangerous one, 1014 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 2: especially like in the areas where they were doing it, 1015 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 2: and it's a it's a ruthless one. But I mean, 1016 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 2: they weren't bad people. It's just you know, the environments 1017 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 2: shaped them in certain ways, you know. And also they 1018 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of experiences that I had, but 1019 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 2: they have a lot of opportunities that I had, So 1020 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: I thought about it, you know, just seeing that where 1021 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 2: like you see people that love that are portrayed as 1022 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 2: people who are heartless, you know what I mean, And 1023 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 2: how you show you know, Shanmona loved that's beautiful, man. 1024 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 2: It's important to see, you know what I mean, So 1025 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 2: especially people who don't add access to it, you know. 1026 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, And that's and that's like one of the 1027 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: things that that that really hits me the hardest of 1028 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: that movie is how wan you know, marsh characters is 1029 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 1: how it's how it's how it's how we didn't see 1030 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: any of the darkness of him, but but you knew 1031 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: that that he had to have been a grimy motherfucker 1032 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 1: because he was right right, right he was. He was 1033 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: a goddamn dope boy, and he was a shot calling 1034 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying he was right right, you 1035 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: need to get that ship by you either get that 1036 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 1: ship by busting heads on your way up top. And 1037 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,720 Speaker 1: even when you get there, you're making calls that impact 1038 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 1: people's lives, that in some people's lives. So we know 1039 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 1: that that he did it serve, but we never saw 1040 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: that side of him, and we we only saw the 1041 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: side of him that was was was was caring and 1042 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: protective and remorseful over the life he chose. And yeah, 1043 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: and then that hit me the hardest is when Act 1044 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: two came along and he just wasn't there anymore, dude, 1045 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: And it was like, I'm not even sure if they 1046 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,439 Speaker 1: ever plicitly stated that he was murdered. They said he died, 1047 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, And you know 1048 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: that thirty year old dope boys don't thirty some year 1049 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: old dope boys don't die from fucking heart attacks or 1050 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: all side far right right right, So so I mean 1051 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: I think it's safety and for that he was murdered, 1052 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: so you know, And and it's and it's like and 1053 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: it's like what he was so hard about him just 1054 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: disappearing between one and that too, is that that there's 1055 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,439 Speaker 1: going to come a time where all of us just disappear, dude, 1056 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: And the only people that will know the complexities and 1057 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: the and the contradictions of our character are the closest 1058 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 1: ones in our circles, our loved ones, you know who 1059 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,919 Speaker 1: who will know us in in all of our totality, 1060 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: right because because because if you know, if we saw 1061 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, a motherfucking you know, shot calling, you know, 1062 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: fucking overseeing you know, drug lord getting killed on the news, 1063 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: we think, oh, he probably be some dirty mean you 1064 00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: know that shit just probably. 1065 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 2: Came back, you know, That's what happens when you do that. 1066 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we would just charge that to the game. But 1067 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: it's like, it's like when the person. 1068 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 2: Was loved and he loved people. 1069 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: And he was a good he was a good dude 1070 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: at his core, and that was just something that that's 1071 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: something that probably hit me the hardest out of all 1072 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: of this here. 1073 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:16,399 Speaker 5: Man. 1074 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 2: I think there's very few people on earth who just 1075 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 2: are birthed and just trash people, you know what I mean. 1076 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 2: So like when somebody to get to a point where 1077 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,919 Speaker 2: you have to do when you're doing that, I don't 1078 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 2: think you were I think that's a that's a that's learned. 1079 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 2: I mean, d you know, my buddies aren't seeing my 1080 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 2: buddies like Adrian. I don't think he's a superhuman man 1081 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 2: because of I mean, dude, he didn't see doctors in 1082 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 2: his hood. In the hood, dude, like he didn't see 1083 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,240 Speaker 2: that ship the people that was my my my cousin 1084 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 2: was he knew my cousin. My cousin like got locked 1085 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 2: up like this serious time for that ship. But he 1086 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 2: was he was thugging, you know what I mean, like 1087 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 2: my my cousins. But he saw them on the corner, 1088 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, or just out you know, 1089 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: thugging it and and you know, slanging and ship you know, 1090 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 2: like like his his neighbors and ship, you know what 1091 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 2: I mean. Like he but he he looked past that 1092 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 2: and saw realized, realized he wanted more. That's why I 1093 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 2: think that's I know, I wouldn't have made I wouldn't 1094 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 2: be where he is if I was in the same situation, 1095 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because you just have to 1096 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,320 Speaker 2: be so much more, you know, stronger mentally, you know, 1097 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 2: not follow what everybody else is doing, you know what 1098 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean. But like, uh, I think most people you 1099 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 2: know just are they're just following what's they They're they're reacting, 1100 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 2: you know, reenacting what they see, imitating what they see. 1101 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 2: So I mean they're not you know, necessarily bad people 1102 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 2: because they do the things that we deemed bad. You know. 1103 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, there's there's multiple layers to every human. 1104 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 2: I mean, these aren't like serial killers, you know, me 1105 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: just killing because I mean these motherfuckers. Lot of these 1106 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 2: motherfuckers ain't have ship, they never had ship, and they 1107 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 2: see an opportunity to get something, so they take it. 1108 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense when you think of 1109 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 2: it in that aspect, you know, even if it's not 1110 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 2: the best thing society. But the rules are different in 1111 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 2: those areas. Man, the rules are not the same in 1112 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 2: the hood as they are in any suburban areas. 1113 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: Bro exactly. Like like that scene when Chyroon came over 1114 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: to Wan's crib and you know, they talked and and 1115 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: Searn was like, you know, do you sell drugs? You know, 1116 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: he basically told told why my mom's on drugs? And 1117 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I know, and He's like do 1118 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: you sell drugs? And fucking you know why my my 1119 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: Heirschel loves Ali's character couldn't even look him in the 1120 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: eyes when he told me. Was like a hardened drug 1121 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: dealer couldn't look an eight year old kid in his 1122 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: eyes and tell him, yeah, I sell the ship that 1123 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: got your mom fucked up out here, like you know. 1124 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 2: And then the moment after when he left and he 1125 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 2: just sat there and you can see it hurt him, 1126 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 2: all right. I Mean, like I said, it's a means 1127 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 2: to end for a lot of people. I mean, they 1128 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 2: glamorizing and rap videos and fucking and movies and ship. 1129 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 2: But it's not like these people are just happy to 1130 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 2: be you know what I'm saying. It's not a happy existence, 1131 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,959 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't, I don't, I don't. 1132 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 2: I don't know many if any people that are slinging 1133 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 2: because you know, that's what this is what I wanted 1134 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 2: to be. You know, that's not that that's not the 1135 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 2: career path that they chose, because that was their passion, 1136 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Right, So they just probably didn't, 1137 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 2: you know, couldn't afford to chase their passion ever had 1138 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 2: the opportunity to, so they took what they had, you 1139 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean. But let's read these emails. Gee, yea, 1140 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 2: let's get. 1141 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 1: To these motherfucking email some real insightful ship here. 1142 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 2: Man, cool, cool, cool, let me God. 1143 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: Damn pull this ship up. I'll read the first one, 1144 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: all right. 1145 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 2: This is for Megan. This is I love the score 1146 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 2: and the music from Moonlight. I thought it intertwined beautifully 1147 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 2: with the movie. The story needed to be told. I'm 1148 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,439 Speaker 2: so tired of hearing lgb T screwed me, like, damn, 1149 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: there's no there's so many differences between everybody, and people 1150 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 2: who don't know shit about ship have the most to 1151 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 2: say about something they don't experience. I'm glad it made 1152 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 2: people are uncomfortable. The time has passed people to not 1153 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 2: live out loud because all these hateful lest people have 1154 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 2: something to say about another person's life. I saw so 1155 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 2: many comments like Moonlight was on some other ship. 1156 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: No it wasn't. 1157 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 2: Black gave men exist in every form and have for years, 1158 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 2: and whoever can be mad about it, But it's not 1159 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 2: good to stop. Have for and have for years, and 1160 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 2: whoever can be mad about it, but it's not good 1161 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 2: to stop. I hope there's continuous of films like Moonlight, So. 1162 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I agree, alright, let me go, damn let 1163 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 4: me go, Damn let me go, all right. 1164 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, damn, let me just let me go. 1165 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 2: Damn you forget the password? 1166 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: That word, all right? Yeah, I can never forget that 1167 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 1: sh So yeah. The next one is from Bailey. What's good, y'all? 1168 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: I hope you having a less shitty Monday than Look 1169 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 1: we we God damn on color people talking like motherfucker 1170 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: same Monday and shit. 1171 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 2: So a super busy guy him so like for school 1172 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 2: and shit. So I couldn't really record. We tried to 1173 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 2: record and kept dropping the ship. So but we wanted 1174 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 2: to drop something because we appreciate all the emails and 1175 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 2: all that. 1176 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, man, exactly. So yeah, I watched them like 1177 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 1: the other night, and I really took the realness from 1178 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: that movie. That ship was really hell, not a scene 1179 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: with sacrifice in order to please a certain crowd. The 1180 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: scene when Kevin gave Chyron the hands was so real. 1181 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: The director could have sacrificed that scene for the sake 1182 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 1: of the romance, which would have been cool. But in 1183 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: real life, you're thrown hands so you don't get beat 1184 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: up yourself. I love the realness of it. It also 1185 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: shows the harsh ality of growing up in poverty, a 1186 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: kid growing up knowing crack was terrible, but being put 1187 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 1: so far to the limits of morality there was childhood 1188 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: that at the end of the day he ended up 1189 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: the same way that shit really hit me. And on 1190 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: an end note, it showed how much the movie industry 1191 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 1: has grown towards African American culture. Mill Gibson's racist ass 1192 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: is still getting rolled somehow, but hidden figures, Moonlight and 1193 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: get out of in a few months has got to 1194 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: be pretty damn exciting for someone who's African American. 1195 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 2: That's all I got lessons, all right, Matt I tweeted this, 1196 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 2: but the biggest thing I took for Moonlight was that 1197 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 2: the educational system was not able to help sham Round 1198 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 2: early in his life, and that's what ultimately led to 1199 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 2: him taking a chair to his bully. If you can 1200 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 2: trust the people put in place to lead them, we 1201 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,959 Speaker 2: can't expect them to be leaders. Okay, if you can't 1202 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 2: trust or you can't trust the people put in place 1203 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 2: to lead them, we can't expect them to be leaders. 1204 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 2: Once a kid takes responding to bullying in their own hands, 1205 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 2: they can't win. Wow, that's a great I didn't even 1206 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 2: I didn't even see that perspective initially. Oh that makes 1207 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 2: a lot of sense, though. 1208 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean really on his own mean right, right, I mean, 1209 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean from from So there's so many aspects of 1210 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: this in which Searron was failed. He was failed by 1211 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: his school system, he was failed by by by by 1212 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: his you know, his his his his fucking structure at home. 1213 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: He was failed by the the juvenile detention system that 1214 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: he was put into after you know, when he came 1215 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 1: out by. 1216 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 2: Society failed. 1217 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just then, I just wanted to be 1218 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: upset about a fucking hand job on the beach, like 1219 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: like that's the ship that ruined him. No, mo, you 1220 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 1: just haven't watched that ship. 1221 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 2: There's so much other ship that was fucked up, and 1222 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 2: that's what you get caught up in. Take it. This 1223 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 2: was weird. Like the people that need to see this, 1224 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 2: they know they never received it, you know what I mean? 1225 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: Ahead, hold up, let me, God damn up. All right, 1226 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: So this is from Jared. Please don't use my name. 1227 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: You got it, Jared, We never do. First off, I 1228 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 1: appreciate what your niggas do. I recently moved to an 1229 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: all white city in Oregon and hearing black friends just 1230 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 1: be themselves helps me. Wait wait by way, well, I 1231 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 1: know Orgon is white as fun bro. 1232 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 2: I heard all I heard that in in Washington. 1233 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that episode cool white people though, right, I mean 1234 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: that that's supposed to be. I mean, these motheruckers are 1235 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 1: like the Trump So I ain't no telling who's who anymore. 1236 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1237 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's nothing like being around people that you know, 1238 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 2: really all the way get you and your experience, The 1239 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 2: black experience is kind of different, you know what I mean? Right, 1240 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 2: No matter how cool you are, you know you you 1241 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 2: aren't black. A lot some things you just can't relate to, 1242 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 1243 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: Right, go ahead, So first off, I appreciate what your 1244 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: niggas do. I already read that ship, all right. So 1245 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 1: I watched The Moonlight right before the Oscars and see 1246 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 1: what the hype was about. And I get why it 1247 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 1: was lauded as much as it why it was lauded 1248 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: as much as it was. What I took away was 1249 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: the difficulty of living in your truth versus how easy 1250 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: it is to lot of yourself Charon orus Kevin, I mean, 1251 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: Shiron became a combination of Wine and Kevin. Building a 1252 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 1: life from the ground up. To protect himself from his 1253 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: previous experiences. I don't want to take away from the 1254 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: specific that's a motherfucking word specificity. Almost had a goddamn 1255 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: this pecific a little bit. I don't want to take 1256 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 1: it away from the s pecificity of the movie, But 1257 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: that lesson is universu whether you're struggling with your sexuality 1258 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: or relationship, your career, et cetera, not only living in 1259 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: your truth but just identifying what that is. You also 1260 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 1: lay on top of that insights into addiction, representation, role models, para, tempts, 1261 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 1: et cetera. The movie itself is layered as fuck. I 1262 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: just wanted to point out how uncommon and beautiful it 1263 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 1: is to see black children playing care free. Anyways, Just 1264 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 1: keep up the niggas, just be talking about as you 1265 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 1: know at sign jail. 1266 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 2: Cool cool cool. 1267 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: You know what I don't. 1268 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:17,919 Speaker 4: I don't. 1269 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to get get too duper too woke 1270 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,479 Speaker 1: on the motherfucker. But you noticed in the opening scene 1271 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: that were playing a game that many call smear the Queer. 1272 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, we called it that, Yeah, called that 1273 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 1: shait killer man. I know, motherfucker's other wis called the 1274 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: Smith the Queer like okay, yeah, in. 1275 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 2: The Midwest they called it, they called the killer Man, 1276 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 2: like they called the killer Man in the South called er. Sorry, guys, 1277 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 2: we had some technical difficulties. We got that out the way. Okay, 1278 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 2: now we're reading the sonny's email. All right, Yo, what's up? 1279 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 2: What's up? What's up you mad geniuses? I don't mind. 1280 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 2: I don't mind my name being out there. So this 1281 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 2: is a sony or real symbolism on Twitter. I think 1282 01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 2: you two guys are some of the most hilarious ms 1283 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 2: on the interwebs. And y'all need to get paid for it, 1284 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 2: pay us to be fucking stupid. But anyway, let's jump 1285 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 2: into the Moonlight discussion so far. So first off, let's 1286 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 2: make this clear. Moonlight it's a black l g P 1287 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 2: two LGBT story and this era where representation is important. 1288 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 2: It's an encouraging sign to see these types of movies 1289 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 2: being made and celebrated. Let me see this one second. Man, 1290 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 2: I think this is a young buck too. Man, I 1291 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 2: think this is a young buck saying that ship. That's 1292 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 2: that's positive as fun to see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 1293 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 2: my yeah, yeah, I think yeah, yeah. To look at this, 1294 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 2: this is that's that's that's that's that's important for me 1295 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 2: to that's dope to see me. Don't even this motherfucker 1296 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 2: has a mustag ship. He's talking, he's you know, he's 1297 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 2: talking intelligently about this ship. You know what I mean. 1298 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 1: That's you don't follow the home real with him. 1299 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 2: I think I follow him. If I don't, I should. 1300 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 2: If I don't, if I don't hit me up, I'll 1301 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 2: follow you. Like. We interact a lot like that's. That's 1302 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 2: one of the people when I see in my mentions, 1303 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 2: I make sure interact with you know what I mean. 1304 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 2: You know, I just really fucked with the dude. I 1305 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 2: thought he was a young cat too, but he's just 1306 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: really smart about shit, man. So I'm not surprised. But 1307 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 2: it's still good to see. It's just good to see anyway. 1308 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 2: Charon's character was a great example of how difficult it 1309 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 2: can be being black while coming to terms with their 1310 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 2: sexuality in this world that not only looks down on 1311 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 2: same sex relationships with views attraction is binary damned in 1312 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 2: terms like binary my fucking nigga, good God, almighty. The 1313 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 2: directors did a great job exploring how Charon was confused 1314 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 2: but about whether he was actually gay or not, seeing 1315 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 2: as despite his one sexual, one action with a dude, 1316 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 2: you can't hundred percent say it was gay because his 1317 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 2: attraction was centered around one dude. To me, that's the 1318 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 2: key aspect of sexuality we overlook when discussing attraction. And 1319 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 2: I've thought about this since Frank Ocean's letter about him 1320 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 2: loving one guy, particularly after being attracted to women his 1321 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 2: whole life as a straight black guy. I think these 1322 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 2: types of stories are necessary to open our world views 1323 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 2: to experience his other, to experience his other marginalized groups 1324 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 2: within our community face. I mean, that's why I say, like, dude, 1325 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 2: that's why I say I've never been attracted to a man. 1326 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 2: But I say I believe sexuality is fluid. I might 1327 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 2: just not met that nigga, you know what I mean, 1328 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 2: it might you know what I mean. I've never I've 1329 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 2: never I've never once like oh this dude. But I just, 1330 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 2: you know, like I really feel like it's fluid. I 1331 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 2: can see how somebody, you know, would would would be 1332 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 2: attracted to multiple you know, I can see there's certain 1333 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 2: people you'd be attracted to them. But yeah, I just 1334 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 2: might have met that nigga. But but yeah, like I 1335 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 2: just I feel like I agree. I agree with that, 1336 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,440 Speaker 2: and that's that's an interesting, you know, way to look 1337 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 2: at it too. It's like, yeah, he might not be 1338 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 2: like that. Frank Ocean has tracked that one dude, like 1339 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 2: the song like one of my favorite love songs, you know, 1340 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 2: thinking about you, like that he talks about the dude 1341 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 2: you know he's in love with, you know what I mean. 1342 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 2: It's just crazy that one of my favorite long songs 1343 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 2: is about the dude. That really blew my mind and 1344 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 2: it really made me think, like damn, like this motherfucker 1345 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 2: is like made me think that it's just maybe they 1346 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 2: perceive like I perceive it differently, you know, Like every 1347 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,439 Speaker 2: time I even see gay shits like sex, it's there's 1348 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 2: gay males are super sexualized, you know what I mean, 1349 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 2: Like they're just I think I think, you know, there's 1350 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 2: something there's some merit to that, because dudes just are 1351 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,240 Speaker 2: horny fucking toes, like you know, especially a certain age, 1352 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 2: and so a whole bunch of dudes together, everybody's fucked up, 1353 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 1354 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's the that's the whole thing with with 1355 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: with all these assholes or it's just all like well 1356 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,760 Speaker 1: it's the gay agenda, because you know, they only view 1357 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,640 Speaker 1: gay people as being hyper sexualized and just here one 1358 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 1: the fuck. You know, they don't, they don't. They don't 1359 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 1: care about the gay couple holding hands and going to 1360 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: get ice cream. You know, they think that gay dudes 1361 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 1: are just out here, just fucking all willy Milly. You 1362 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:48,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 1363 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 2: Don't They don't see the love aspect. But that's right, 1364 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 2: that's that. That uh that song. I mean, this song 1365 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,640 Speaker 2: is so beautiful. Man, It's such a beautiful song to me. 1366 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 2: I listen to it, I guess these faces while I 1367 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 2: just listened to it for like days. It's about a dude. Man, 1368 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 2: It's crazy, not really crazy, It's incredible, is beautiful. But 1369 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 2: the other thing I took from it was how important 1370 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,519 Speaker 2: it is to have love and security from adults when 1371 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 2: you're growing up, especially as a black person. Shyron escaped 1372 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 2: the talk situation he had at home for a while 1373 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,640 Speaker 2: with Mahershela and Janelle Monay's characters. Janelle Monae has been 1374 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 2: shitting bro. 1375 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 6: She's been incredible and dude as far as baddy level 1376 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 6: bro she go, and she's like every bit of like 1377 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 6: five foot two like a bombshell. 1378 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 2: And she packed so much baddie in that five time. 1379 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 2: That's a lot of battye in five two crazy man. Anyway, Man, 1380 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 2: she's been stunting, bro. But it's interesting to think how 1381 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 2: we would have how he would have grown up, and 1382 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 2: if he would have turned into black, and if he 1383 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 2: would have turned into black with both them and his parents, 1384 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 2: even with Wine being a drugger himself in the world 1385 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 2: that in the world that already has so many options 1386 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 2: set up for us. You don't need to be feeling 1387 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,599 Speaker 2: alone in your own home as a black child. Anyways, 1388 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 2: Love you guys, and hope y'all come up with come 1389 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 2: up off this stuff one day because our niggas some 1390 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,640 Speaker 2: beautiful souls. Mand Damn, we gotta I gotta hug for this. 1391 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 1: I really hope you are following. That's my motherfucker man. 1392 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 2: This is a nigga bro like you. You hear ship 1393 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 2: like this from a young motherfucker man. I just know 1394 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 2: we interact with them all the time on Twitter, bro, 1395 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 2: and I just want, like, I just wish, just fucking 1396 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,560 Speaker 2: and I've never fucking met this dude, you know what 1397 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,759 Speaker 2: I mean. But I just pray. I just well, whoever, 1398 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 2: who the fuck ever is up there. Man, I just 1399 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 2: wish nothing but greatness on a motherfucking individual like this. 1400 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I would. I'm gonna tell 1401 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 1: you what I remember my kids. 1402 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 2: Do something stupid than have kids, so you can raise 1403 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 2: people more people like you, you know what I mean, 1404 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 2: make a bad make the world a better place. 1405 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something that I that I will 1406 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,880 Speaker 1: never forget about my David. Real symbolism here, right, you 1407 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 1: said what you from Barbados? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, 1408 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 1: shout out of the Caribbean boss of them. The morning 1409 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 1: after Trump got elected, he sent me a private message 1410 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 1: on Snapchat of like a fucking sunrise and Barbados was like, 1411 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that that should happen over there, but it's 1412 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,639 Speaker 1: but but you know, you know, ship gets better. Life 1413 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,400 Speaker 1: is beautiful. And he sent me a fucking picture of 1414 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 1: a fucking Beijing fucking sunrise. 1415 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 2: Dude, he thought, you know what's beautiful about that? Though? 1416 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 2: He thought of you, bro, Yeah, you know what, that's 1417 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 2: some fucking beautiful He thought of you. He sent that 1418 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 2: to you and he wanted you to see that. 1419 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: Bro. 1420 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 2: He was like, I know, it's fucked up. You know 1421 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 2: what I mean. But like, dude, you know, it's it's 1422 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 2: it's it's It's not the end of the world. The sunrise, 1423 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 2: that's a beautiful one. You're a beautiful fucking mother. But 1424 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 2: all of the greatness that exists a hope that you 1425 01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 2: experience it. 1426 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,639 Speaker 1: Bro fuck yeah, but yeah, shouts to the homie real symbolism. 1427 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 1: If you want to follow him, it's it's real then 1428 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 1: like lion King Simba, l I s A, I am, 1429 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: my my brethren, there, my Beijing Bredeno. 1430 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 2: More of these joints. 1431 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 1: All right, so you got I think we skipped over 1432 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: this one. So this one is from yeah yeah call 1433 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 1: me by my Twitter handle Banjie Girl b A n 1434 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 1: j i E Girl. Is that it's a film of 1435 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 1: toxic The young man Q being bullied, being called a sissy, 1436 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 1: that who he was wasn't good or welcome, even though 1437 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,680 Speaker 1: only positive real, the only positive male role model he knew, 1438 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: told him that who he was was fine. He was 1439 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 1: even told in so many words that it was everyone 1440 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: else that had it wrong. You know, the furth season. 1441 01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 1: You can be gay, but don't you don't got to 1442 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 1: let nobody call you a faggot and highlighted how boys 1443 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: are socialized to be stoic and lack vulnerability, which is 1444 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: why it was fitting that he started going by black, 1445 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,520 Speaker 1: a literal representation of being vote of emotion and expression. 1446 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 1: This is why the ending is so poignant. That final 1447 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,679 Speaker 1: scene of them touching doesn't necessarily allude to a romantic 1448 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 1: tryst of any kind, but simply exhibits how isolated, toxic 1449 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 1: maxculinity can make men feel. The nmac was that they 1450 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 1: were able to share in that moment was like an exhalation. 1451 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 1: To me, that was the most brilliant and refreshing ending 1452 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,280 Speaker 1: of his story, and the most brilliant, brilliant and refreshing 1453 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,800 Speaker 1: ending in story like this could have Love what you 1454 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: guys are doing. Keep putting out amazing content that makes 1455 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,760 Speaker 1: it possible for me to keep avoiding my coworkers and strangers. 1456 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,040 Speaker 1: Love y'all, Banjie cool cool. 1457 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 2: You need to answer that. Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna go 1458 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 2: ahead and read this little though. Clack clack clack clack 1459 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 2: clack clack clack clack clack clack. She motherfucker, dope, you 1460 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 2: ain't got me out here in the cold. All right, 1461 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 2: all right, here we go. We'll make we we I 1462 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,479 Speaker 2: guess one more so you can get you can get 1463 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:27,720 Speaker 2: to your lady. We don't want to just you know, 1464 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 2: we're good. Okay, we got by. I don't want to 1465 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 2: take no time away from you, man, you know what 1466 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Don't want to take no time away bro, anyway, 1467 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, due to a lot of you, like I 1468 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 2: don't know, I'm about to hot water my lady. 1469 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm not one of them motherfuckers. 1470 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 2: Okay, those are the worst. 1471 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 1: Motherfuckers like you got to save them from themselves. 1472 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 2: Bro. I'm not listen, Bro, I'm going to leave you. 1473 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,560 Speaker 2: Go in there and handle that. Okay. No, we're good. No, 1474 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 2: No you're not. No, you're not. 1475 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 1: You ain't got a lot of it. 1476 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 2: You're not, bro, And that's okay. It'd be like that, 1477 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 2: my gee. Now let me go. You ain't gotta go nowhere. Yes, 1478 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 2: I do not gonna be on me right right. I 1479 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:15,439 Speaker 2: don't want no parts of this ship anyway. Hi. Here 1480 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,960 Speaker 2: are some of my thoughts about Moonlight. The person name 1481 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 2: is Jade. Uh, never judge a book by its cover. 1482 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,600 Speaker 2: I already knew that. But I already knew that. But 1483 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 2: you never really know what kind of pain someone is 1484 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,600 Speaker 2: carrying around with them. I'll do my best to be 1485 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 2: open accepting to these those who are need Oh damn, Okay, 1486 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm glad that Chyron finally got an apology from his mother. 1487 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,599 Speaker 2: I know women who were Paula but have since recovered 1488 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 2: from their addictions. Their children didn't farewell and grew up 1489 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 2: with issues so bad that an apology wouldn't mean anything. Three. 1490 01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,719 Speaker 2: I also have an uncle who, like Paula, was employed 1491 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 2: with children. He's married. He was married, but didn't not 1492 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,600 Speaker 2: stop him from succumbing to alcohol and drug abuse. It 1493 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,040 Speaker 2: wasn't because he was abused as a child or anything. 1494 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 2: He just didn't know how to deal with life and 1495 01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 2: turned to substance of self to self medicaid. It's just 1496 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 2: how some people are. Yeah, self medication is a big deal, man, 1497 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 2: People do that all the time. People just struggle with 1498 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 2: dealing with life. That's crazy. You just just the life 1499 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 2: itself is difficult to deal with for some people, you 1500 01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean. I really hated how teenage Charon 1501 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 2: got sent up after attacking his bully, but I feel 1502 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 2: like that, I feel like that it didn't have to happen. 1503 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:25,080 Speaker 2: I know teachers and others who were well aware of 1504 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 2: what his situation was and the bullying and the bullying, 1505 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,559 Speaker 2: and did not did nothing to help. 1506 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 1: Why. 1507 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 2: I know it's a lot for a teacher to take 1508 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 2: in it on a student students' personal issues, but I 1509 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 2: do think there is some way that someone could have 1510 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,320 Speaker 2: helped him. I think it all comes down to poverty 1511 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,679 Speaker 2: and education system. It's fucking us all up. Who knows 1512 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,519 Speaker 2: what Searon could have been if he had made it 1513 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 2: out of high school into a college and had the 1514 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,599 Speaker 2: chance to find himself and developed as a person. Five 1515 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not too late for love. I did find 1516 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 2: it odd that Kevin called him in the middle of 1517 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 2: the night, but I suppose that's how it is when 1518 01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 2: you really miss someone. Still, I was happy that he did. 1519 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,719 Speaker 2: Arne showed real courage going down to Miami and seeing 1520 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 2: Kevin a person. I never thought about the courage factor there. 1521 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,200 Speaker 2: I never thought about the courage factor, you know what 1522 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,360 Speaker 2: I mean. I mean, I think about the longing, you know, 1523 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 2: to experience somebody or see somebody that you haven't seen 1524 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,920 Speaker 2: in a while. I never thought about how it does 1525 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,600 Speaker 2: take courage to do that, man, you know, especially with 1526 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 2: what happened in the past between them, you know what 1527 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 2: I mean. Yeah, at first I was slightly upset with 1528 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:31,840 Speaker 2: how well this is number six. The first I was 1529 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 2: slightly upset with how they just left us hanging at 1530 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,840 Speaker 2: the end. But now every time I see the ending, 1531 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,680 Speaker 2: I cry happy tears because to me, it is not 1532 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 2: It's a new beginning for them both. I can only 1533 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,519 Speaker 2: imagine how hard it was for Surround that admit to 1534 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,280 Speaker 2: Kevin that he was the only man who had ever 1535 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,560 Speaker 2: touched him. Black men already have to worry about perceived, 1536 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,720 Speaker 2: worry about perceived, worry about being perceived a certain way, 1537 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,680 Speaker 2: and to come out in that way has to be 1538 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,800 Speaker 2: the hardest shit ever. I'm a young black woman and 1539 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 2: I only recently admitted to my female best friend and 1540 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,680 Speaker 2: I have same sex attractions that we been friends for 1541 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 2: over ten years. It was kind of hard to do, 1542 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 2: but thankfully she's intelligent, kind and understanding, so it was nothing. 1543 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 2: So it's nothing but cool with it. That's dope, man, 1544 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 2: that's fucking dope. When I told her about it, I mean, 1545 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,640 Speaker 2: I say, it's dope, but we shouldn't even think about it, right, 1546 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 2: It should just be normal, you know what I mean, 1547 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,360 Speaker 2: Be like yeah, it just be like Okay, you know, 1548 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 2: well I told her about it. I kind of started 1549 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,599 Speaker 2: off with talking about moonlight. I've gotten to a point 1550 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 2: in life where I'm done with pretending with folks and 1551 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 2: starting to get comfortable myself, even the aspect that I 1552 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,800 Speaker 2: may be by it even feels weird typing it out. Dude, 1553 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 2: I wish you nothing but the best of fucking luck 1554 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 2: with that. I hope people are just as fucking open 1555 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 2: as your friend is. But I think that's awesome, man, Like, 1556 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 2: be you fuck what people think about that shit? Man, 1557 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And people have problems with 1558 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 2: it is not them, It's not you, It's them. You 1559 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,760 Speaker 2: know that that is their issue that they need to 1560 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,800 Speaker 2: deal with. But I mean, no, I wish you nothing 1561 01:18:58,840 --> 01:18:59,519 Speaker 2: but the best with that. 1562 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, a few more and you know what, 1563 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 1: the whole the whole ending of Moonlight where some people 1564 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,719 Speaker 1: are like, well I didn't get it, Well, that's that's life, dude. 1565 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: Sometimes ship isn't isn't fucking you know, tied up in 1566 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,240 Speaker 1: a neat, little fucking boat, Like sometimes you're you're just 1567 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 1: gonna meet your ex of six years who you haven't 1568 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 1: seen in five years at a fucking grocery store, having 1569 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 1: awkward encounter and go your separate weates. That's how shit works, 1570 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So so yeah, I wasn't 1571 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 1: at all let down by the ending, because I don't 1572 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: expect you to be tied up in a neat little 1573 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 1: bow for me when it comes to some ship that's 1574 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: real and as heavy as what moon. 1575 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 4: Like that with. 1576 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and to me too, like you know, 1577 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 2: I don't I didn't necessarily I think they were you know, 1578 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 2: it was a relationship was gonna come of it. I 1579 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 2: just felt like that was healing. You know. It was 1580 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,800 Speaker 2: a healing moment for him. Yeah, you know, he he 1581 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 2: he had a he had a healing moment. You know, 1582 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 2: he got the you know, he had that moment with 1583 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 2: his mom and then the only person he ever really 1584 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,639 Speaker 2: you know, expressed himself to ear. You know, every person 1585 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,560 Speaker 2: ever got joy from, you know, in the way he 1586 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 2: did get it as far as like intimately was from 1587 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 2: his best friend you know who like that, you know, 1588 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:17,599 Speaker 2: with the situation that happened with them, how they stopped 1589 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 2: sucking with each other, but it was really fucked up. 1590 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 2: But like he got that, he got that healing, you know, 1591 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 2: he got he got he received like, you know, like 1592 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 2: it was like a healing moment, you know what I mean. 1593 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:31,439 Speaker 2: He just received love that and it didn't necessarily to 1594 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 2: be sexual, but you know, just to be consoled, and 1595 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 2: that's just a beautiful thing. Man. So I thought that 1596 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 2: was cool. I didn't necessarily think they were I don't 1597 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 2: know if there was something I didn't. I didn't think 1598 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 2: that we rekindle it, you know, like I didn't. I didn't. 1599 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 2: It didn't seem like that to me. It just seemed 1600 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:47,960 Speaker 2: like it was a healing moment for both of them. 1601 01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 2: I felt like, you know, regardless if they stay together 1602 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,640 Speaker 2: or not, you know, uh, Shamon, I was gonna be 1603 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 2: able to move on now, you know what I mean, 1604 01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 2: just you know, maybe be open to you opening up 1605 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 2: to other men, you know what I mean? 1606 01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,680 Speaker 1: Right, I mean it was I mean, for what it's right, 1607 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,160 Speaker 1: it's a moment where they both kind of rediscovered humanity 1608 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,680 Speaker 1: that they thought that they had possibly lost, right, Like 1609 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 1: like like Charron didn't think he was capable of being 1610 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 1: intimate ever again, and he was in that moment and 1611 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,840 Speaker 1: you know what was supposed to do. Name Kevin, the 1612 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,000 Speaker 1: dude that beat him up, the dude who being up 1613 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,880 Speaker 1: like that was probably the lowest fucking point of his 1614 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 1: life where he just fucking disregarded his humanity just to 1615 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,360 Speaker 1: kind of fucking fit in. So it was kind of 1616 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,599 Speaker 1: a helo moment for both of them. 1617 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 2: But at the same time, do you saw much it 1618 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 2: hurt Kevin? 1619 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was definitely remorseful about that. 1620 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,360 Speaker 2: Was like, dude, don't get up, and Charron was like, 1621 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,800 Speaker 2: it's can you imagine, Like it's just it was such 1622 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 2: a hrdful moment because you could see they both were 1623 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,400 Speaker 2: so hurt by it, and it was just, you know, 1624 01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 2: it was there's two dudes who really cared for each other, 1625 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,600 Speaker 2: you know, and it was just outside factors that you know, 1626 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,960 Speaker 2: just was ruining something that otherwise was beautiful, you know 1627 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,760 Speaker 2: what I mean. And like Seanron was gonna make him 1628 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,240 Speaker 2: face what he was doing. He was not gonna just 1629 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 2: stay down and let him, you know, just get away, 1630 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 2: like you know, get get what I mean. He's gonna 1631 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,120 Speaker 2: make him beat his ass, like you ain't just gonna 1632 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 2: punch me and it's gonna be over. You're gonna have 1633 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 2: to beat my ass. And I know it hurts you, 1634 01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm gonna make you deal 1635 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,000 Speaker 2: with this. It was just such a it was it 1636 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 2: was such a moving fucking moment, dog, I mean, it 1637 01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:33,960 Speaker 2: was just so many And that's what trips me out about. Uh, 1638 01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,080 Speaker 2: that's what That's what tripped me out about. Like, you know, 1639 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 2: about a lot of shit, you know, as far as 1640 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 2: like relationships, like you know, like their relationship was so cool, 1641 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 2: you know, they had such a solid relationship, but the 1642 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,599 Speaker 2: outward ship is what fucked it up to the point 1643 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,759 Speaker 2: where they don't even talk. They didn't talk for years. 1644 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,520 Speaker 2: Other than that, other than the forces that were outside 1645 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 2: a relationship, that would have been great, you know what 1646 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,760 Speaker 2: I mean. I mean they had like you know, they 1647 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 2: were best friends. That love that you know, they had 1648 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 2: love for each other, you know what I mean. It's 1649 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 2: just crazy. 1650 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's this overlooked in that movie, you know, 1651 01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: because the storyline just super sedes everything, which is understandable. 1652 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:20,120 Speaker 1: It's a cinematography. It was brilliant, dude, like you lot 1653 01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,320 Speaker 1: of of those little kids in the huddle plane, you know, 1654 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 1: kill a man and shit and like you you really 1655 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 1: you really like and the shot really felt the fucking 1656 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 1: Miami humidity you felt, you know what I mean. 1657 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, motherfucker, Like that's one of the movies. 1658 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 1: Like you forget you watching a movie, right, you ship. 1659 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 2: Like most most of the time, like you're really you 1660 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 2: realize you're watching a movie. Like you know, I'm I 1661 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 2: feel like you forget you watched the movie. 1662 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:51,960 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 1663 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 2: You you get swept up in that ship, you know, 1664 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,559 Speaker 2: like I mean, like it's it's it's it's it's incredibly dumb. 1665 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's incredible, it's incredibly well done. You 1666 01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 2: know what I mean. But uh, yeah, man, you red 1667 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:08,720 Speaker 2: I read the last one. 1668 01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,960 Speaker 1: You read the last Yeah, it's on me, all right? 1669 01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 1: What's good? Family? As My name is Zach at sign 1670 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,760 Speaker 1: zeus Underscore the th H Underscore god g A w 1671 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 1: D on Twitter. I'm from Austin, Texas. Off top on 1672 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,439 Speaker 1: to say that I fuck with y'all's podcast and have 1673 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,760 Speaker 1: been listening since the beginning. Appreciate you man. I'm in 1674 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,120 Speaker 1: my mid twenties, but I feel like every time I listen, 1675 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 1: y'all drop a new jewel that I can take and 1676 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,440 Speaker 1: apply to my washtass. 1677 01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 2: Like you ain't watched, bro, you don't know it. You 1678 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 2: don't know you ain't sniffed washed my nigga. Mid twenties. Boy, 1679 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,559 Speaker 2: you better soak all that up. Be listen. Just don't 1680 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 2: realized I was really really old, you know, like we 1681 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,599 Speaker 2: you know, the these videos were like this, that fucking 1682 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,799 Speaker 2: incredible kid that's like dumping on everybody. 1683 01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Zion Williams, he's insane. You know, you said what 1684 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:07,000 Speaker 1: He's a fucking monster, he's and he's still a little 1685 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 1: pudgy seventeen year old witted that mother turned into a 1686 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,679 Speaker 1: fucking muscular twenty winner. 1687 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 2: He's doing dunks. He did like was it a reverse 1688 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 2: three sixty in the game? Tyler? If I would have 1689 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,120 Speaker 2: seen that in a game, I might have died seriously, 1690 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,920 Speaker 2: Like I just I definitely would have at least passed out, 1691 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,679 Speaker 2: like I you know, when somebody just dunked in high 1692 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 2: school was crazy, Like I remember, I remember like specifically 1693 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,639 Speaker 2: this dude going up he was he was like he's 1694 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 2: been a dunk. He jump from one side of the rim, 1695 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,599 Speaker 2: dude was gonna come and block, and he like dunked 1696 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,519 Speaker 2: out of the rim and then yambed it right. It 1697 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,840 Speaker 2: was a nasty ass dunk. I still remember that. That 1698 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,000 Speaker 2: was over ten years ago. I think I was eighteen 1699 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,599 Speaker 2: when I saw it, nineteen when I saw that ship, 1700 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,479 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Fifteen fucking years ago something 1701 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 2: like that, you know what I mean? Still remember that 1702 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 2: shit this These motherfuckers are getting a dunk contest every 1703 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 2: time he steps on the court. And when I really 1704 01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:02,719 Speaker 2: trip off, and more amazed than even the dumps. Their knees. Wow, 1705 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,439 Speaker 2: their knees don't just explode when they jump. And that's 1706 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,640 Speaker 2: how I knew that's a damn boy. Like you know, 1707 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 2: like before, like before I had my inury injury, like 1708 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,799 Speaker 2: I could when people get hurt, I just couldn't amagine. 1709 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 2: I never had an injury that was bad, So people 1710 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,720 Speaker 2: get hurt, I just couldn't, Like I just it was 1711 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,479 Speaker 2: just weird. I couldn't even imagine people getting hurt, you 1712 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean. But like now I look at 1713 01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,559 Speaker 2: I look at people jumping, I'm like, how do their 1714 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:34,639 Speaker 2: knees handle all that? You know pressure? I remember having 1715 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 2: those you know anywhere? 1716 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 1: Go ahead, man, yeah, those are the days, all right. 1717 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,800 Speaker 1: So as far as we're like, it's definitely one of 1718 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 1: the most interesting and rare texts I've ever seen regarding 1719 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:57,400 Speaker 1: the complexities of black male masculinity. And sexuality. Throughout the movie, 1720 01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 1: you see Chiron continue to strengthen to himself as his 1721 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 1: experience with emotional abuse and bullying is showing him that 1722 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a stable save space to be or 1723 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,960 Speaker 1: explore his identity and to find who he truly is. 1724 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:18,160 Speaker 1: Outside of wanting Teresa's house, one particularly jarring thing to 1725 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,640 Speaker 1: see what's his transformation into adulthood. We later come to 1726 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 1: the understanding that through a stent of Juvie in years 1727 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:28,000 Speaker 1: of trapping, he's learned what works in regards to traditional masculinity. 1728 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 1: It's still visually daring to make that tenure jump and 1729 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 1: see him with his armor of hypermasculinity muscle goals, cars, trapping, 1730 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,880 Speaker 1: et cetera. Despite this, you can tell this isn't who 1731 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,360 Speaker 1: he truly is through the conversations with Kevin, and as 1732 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,960 Speaker 1: the cracks of that armor show and he and inside 1733 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,639 Speaker 1: he is still that same person. As Moonlight is left 1734 01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:51,200 Speaker 1: open ended, I have hope for Charon. He appears to 1735 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,680 Speaker 1: us started on the path of finding who he is, 1736 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,160 Speaker 1: becoming more comfortable with himself, and one day possibly exploring 1737 01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,120 Speaker 1: what life can be, perhaps with Kevin just putting my 1738 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,880 Speaker 1: two cents and y'all be safe and keep putting out 1739 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:05,559 Speaker 1: those fire as podcasts. Zach and Zeus the God It's 1740 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,960 Speaker 1: a Big Boss too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know 1741 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 1: this thing like I think we've all grown up with 1742 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:15,920 Speaker 1: dudes like the motherfucking Super Dougs, and you're like, man, 1743 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,280 Speaker 1: I know you, man, I know that this isn't really you. 1744 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,680 Speaker 1: But it's like it's like you don't you know they 1745 01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,720 Speaker 1: aren't frauds with who they are at the moment, you 1746 01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like, at the same time, 1747 01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 1: you're like, man, I know that this ain't really you, 1748 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,320 Speaker 1: but I still know you'll fight a motherfucker ain't really you. 1749 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:37,519 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I feel like, yeah, 1750 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 2: I agree, I have nothing to say. 1751 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:44,040 Speaker 1: I agree clearly, but yeah, yeah, I know plenty of 1752 01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 1: those dudes. And it's like, you know, I mean, you 1753 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 1: ain't got to put it on a tough guy for me, man, 1754 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 1: because because we were never tough guys when we was homies. 1755 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, right right, I'm reading this from dinoh 1756 01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,680 Speaker 2: uh he's called for a medic at call for medic Uh, 1757 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:05,840 Speaker 2: she got four a medic I feel like I was saying, 1758 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 2: like eight you know, like I was saying the fucking number. Anyway, 1759 01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,479 Speaker 2: what's up, fellas got to start off by saying this, 1760 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,680 Speaker 2: saying that, as a twenty thre year old white guy, 1761 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 2: I'm reagularly thankful to have gotten into Twitter and onto 1762 01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,200 Speaker 2: your timelines, which have really helped shape me as a person. 1763 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 2: You know, I feel about that. But that's I think 1764 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,240 Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's dope, man, but it's it's a 1765 01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,639 Speaker 2: lot of I just I just feel the response. 1766 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,800 Speaker 1: It's a lot of responsibility. And please don't don't know 1767 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:38,200 Speaker 1: put me as your your your infailable ideal, because I 1768 01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,400 Speaker 1: will fuck up. I'm still figuring this out myself. 1769 01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we all are, man, So that's what that's. I 1770 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 2: just I just realized I have so so, so so 1771 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 2: much to learn about life, you know what I mean. 1772 01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm still learning about saying I'm still learning about me, 1773 01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I said, I'm I'm 1774 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,600 Speaker 2: forever learning about me, you know what I mean, like 1775 01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,559 Speaker 2: just experimenting, trying things, finding that I think out myself. 1776 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,960 Speaker 2: So when people say shape, it just kind of scares me. 1777 01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,439 Speaker 2: But you know, if we if we switch it up 1778 01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,040 Speaker 2: and started being fuck niggas, they wouldn't fuck with us, 1779 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,280 Speaker 2: and that that makes me happy when I think about 1780 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 2: that too, you know what I mean. I think we've helped. 1781 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 2: I think we said enough real ship that if we 1782 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,800 Speaker 2: fucked up and became fuck boys, they'd be like, Okay, 1783 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:25,360 Speaker 2: fuck these niggas. And that's me too, and that's dope 1784 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,759 Speaker 2: to me, you know what I mean. So I feel anyway, 1785 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,719 Speaker 2: I rotinally looked back my life before Twitter and before 1786 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,400 Speaker 2: I have being a distant viewer into both of your minds, 1787 01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 2: and I'm so glad I'm working my way out of 1788 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,920 Speaker 2: the egg avy motherfucker I used to be. You both 1789 01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 2: offer perspective on life that I'm afraid I wouldn't have 1790 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 2: never gotten had I never signed up on Twitter dot com. 1791 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,120 Speaker 2: So thank you both. Wow with that out of that, 1792 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,040 Speaker 2: out of the way. Moonlight was so good it deserved 1793 01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 2: every award it received, especially mahrschaal Aili and I feel 1794 01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 2: like ma Herscheli. Man, dude, this motherfucker is a special niggas. 1795 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,760 Speaker 2: He played at Saint Mary's. All Right, have you seen 1796 01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,840 Speaker 2: this rap? This rap had a rap video? 1797 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually is good, right, Yeah, he was sitting 1798 01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,960 Speaker 1: with the motherfucking hieroglyphics, the nine detail to infinity. Motherfuckers 1799 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,679 Speaker 1: for coach. 1800 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,040 Speaker 2: Fuck you know what I mean, he's acting, you know, 1801 01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,960 Speaker 2: like dude, He's just he's a special dude. My hershal 1802 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,360 Speaker 2: ally winning Best Supporting Actor being the first Muslim man 1803 01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,120 Speaker 2: to win as Oscar at only twenty minutes of screen time. 1804 01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:24,000 Speaker 2: What a finesse owing. Fuck Jimmy Kimmel for my mispronouncing 1805 01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 2: Myhrschel's name like twenty times last night. Goddamn man A's boy. 1806 01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,479 Speaker 2: But Hershler was so good in that role. That really 1807 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,000 Speaker 2: shows how cyclical the nature of young black men's lives 1808 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,200 Speaker 2: and impoverished environments can be. Sean goes to be exactly 1809 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,560 Speaker 2: like one. Unfortunately, I think that's something we already know 1810 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,640 Speaker 2: is the case. So many of those young men never 1811 01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,760 Speaker 2: really stand a chance. The biggest personal takeaway that I 1812 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,960 Speaker 2: had with Moonlight was I still have a lot of 1813 01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 2: growing to do. As I said earlier, I'm still trying 1814 01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,040 Speaker 2: to peel some of the egg avvy away from myself. 1815 01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:55,760 Speaker 2: My reaction to the kissing on the beach was to 1816 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,960 Speaker 2: pull away and be uncomfortable. It wasn't that I expected 1817 01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 2: it expect that wasn't what I expected, and it came 1818 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,760 Speaker 2: with the reflective urge to look away. It took a 1819 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,599 Speaker 2: second to realize, Okay, shit, the way that I am 1820 01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 2: feeling about way that I am feeling about this isn't right. Wow, 1821 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,080 Speaker 2: I shouldn't feel this way. I talked to my girl 1822 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,280 Speaker 2: about it after she said she had the same feeling 1823 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 2: towards the scene. I think that goes to show that 1824 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 2: no matter how inclusive you think you are about gender, race, sexuality, 1825 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,719 Speaker 2: or whatever else, you need to be addressing those things regularly. 1826 01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,000 Speaker 2: I personally don't think of myself as homophobic, but I 1827 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,400 Speaker 2: still had this visceral reaction to the scene which goes 1828 01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,519 Speaker 2: to show myself. He goes to show myself I still 1829 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,600 Speaker 2: have a lot of work to do. I felt the 1830 01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,960 Speaker 2: same way I felt when it happened. It shocked me. 1831 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:40,240 Speaker 2: It made me uncomfortable. I didn't like look away, but 1832 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 2: I had had her act myself and that it showed 1833 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,120 Speaker 2: me too, like dude, like you got some you got 1834 01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 2: a ways to go, you know what I mean? 1835 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,080 Speaker 1: But uh, I mean, I don't think I was really 1836 01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,840 Speaker 1: shocked because I came in there already knowing that there 1837 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,200 Speaker 1: was you know, that character was gay. 1838 01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know, so you know, 1839 01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,920 Speaker 2: they called me off guard. But at the same time, dude, 1840 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 2: it's you know this, that's there's nothing I'm normal about 1841 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,040 Speaker 2: what happened on that screen. 1842 01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the whole thing is is when 1843 01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,800 Speaker 1: when when straight people get taken it back by by 1844 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:15,120 Speaker 1: by this says the homosexuality. It's it's humanation to project 1845 01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 1: yourself in in that scenario, right, like like what would 1846 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,040 Speaker 1: I do with my friend, you know, grab my dick? 1847 01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:26,760 Speaker 1: You know what? That's kind of something like you know, 1848 01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, for one, I don't think I don't make 1849 01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:32,759 Speaker 1: I don't make any gay dude because I just jeans 1850 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,880 Speaker 1: and sneaks. So I'm not fashionable enough to be desired 1851 01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:36,880 Speaker 1: by gay man, I don't think. 1852 01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,000 Speaker 2: So It's it's like, you know, in situations like that, 1853 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:47,679 Speaker 2: don't don't don't don't I guess yourself, don't understate your baddy. 1854 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:53,479 Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm not. I don't think I'm fashionable enough. 1855 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,840 Speaker 2: But but yeah, come on, man, I saw I saw 1856 01:33:55,880 --> 01:34:02,720 Speaker 2: a gay dude. Uh uh. I think I tweeted about this, 1857 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,599 Speaker 2: but I saw a group of gay d was leaving again. 1858 01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,040 Speaker 2: I think they were They might not have been, but 1859 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,400 Speaker 2: it was just a group of I know, certain certain 1860 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,840 Speaker 2: people in the group were gay, and it was like 1861 01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,479 Speaker 2: it was like three or four of them. I mean 1862 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,320 Speaker 2: that it was an odd number actually. And there was 1863 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,439 Speaker 2: two dudes that were like, you know, super good looking. 1864 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:21,519 Speaker 2: I mean as far as it's super well, you know, 1865 01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:25,320 Speaker 2: great dressed, super super good, you know. And then this 1866 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,479 Speaker 2: one dude with like carpenter jeans on him, Like, I know, 1867 01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:29,120 Speaker 2: who's the third wheel in this one? You know, I 1868 01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,600 Speaker 2: know who ain't getting no booty tonight, we get no 1869 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,080 Speaker 2: brown eye this evening? You feel me? The guy and 1870 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:36,280 Speaker 2: the carpenter jeans. 1871 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,880 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he had the goddamn loop to hang the hammer. 1872 01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:44,960 Speaker 2: On, you know somewhere man with still told boots niggas. 1873 01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He's just a lot of competition, bro, 1874 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:54,920 Speaker 2: you know, you gotta do better than that. There's nothing 1875 01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 2: there was nothing in that scene. There's nothing abnormal about 1876 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,599 Speaker 2: what I saw. But you know, and I don't know why. 1877 01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:04,519 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't know if it's necessarily a 1878 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,080 Speaker 2: human nature for me look at that and and and 1879 01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,080 Speaker 2: and make it and see myself in it, because I 1880 01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,120 Speaker 2: don't do that when I see like straight people having sex. 1881 01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,160 Speaker 2: I don't make I don't. I don't I don't I 1882 01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 2: don't do I don't. I don't have this like I 1883 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,360 Speaker 2: don't make it seem like it's myself. I don't make 1884 01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 2: it personal, you know what I mean. So like for 1885 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,479 Speaker 2: you know, my reaction was it was a it was 1886 01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 2: a taught reaction to learned reaction I've had. There's nothing 1887 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,800 Speaker 2: wrong with what happened, you know what I mean. It 1888 01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:30,360 Speaker 2: should be completely normal to me because it's a normal thing, 1889 01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:33,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I just don't have I 1890 01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,120 Speaker 2: have I've never seen that on television before. And so 1891 01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,560 Speaker 2: it's like the first time me seeing like he was 1892 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,000 Speaker 2: jerking them off or whatever, you know what I mean. 1893 01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,080 Speaker 2: It's the first time he ever seen that, you know, 1894 01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,599 Speaker 2: like and and it made me feel a certain way. 1895 01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,320 Speaker 2: But it shouldn't have. And I see what he's saying, like, 1896 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,160 Speaker 2: you know, you need to be addressing those things regularly, 1897 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,479 Speaker 2: we do, you know, Like that's what that's what That's 1898 01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:02,080 Speaker 2: another thing that's important to have representation is where like 1899 01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:06,160 Speaker 2: that doesn't weird me out, you know what I mean. Yeah, 1900 01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,880 Speaker 2: And like I don't think you have to, you know, 1901 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,720 Speaker 2: to desire that to not be weirded out, you can 1902 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,439 Speaker 2: be you know, if you can be you, I can 1903 01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,960 Speaker 2: still be me regular ass nigga and that not weird 1904 01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:20,120 Speaker 2: me out, you know what I mean. So, Like I mean, 1905 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,719 Speaker 2: just like with black people being on television and regular roles, 1906 01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So when you see a 1907 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,240 Speaker 2: black person, you're not tripping off because you know that 1908 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,280 Speaker 2: you're that that that stereotypical role that they that you've 1909 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,160 Speaker 2: seen is not reality. You've seen You've seen more well 1910 01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,240 Speaker 2: rounded black characters, you know what I mean? 1911 01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,240 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I think that's something that a whole 1912 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,400 Speaker 1: lot of people have to learn, and it was something 1913 01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,880 Speaker 1: that I had to learn because we are so often 1914 01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 1: ingrained with the fucking subconscious messages that gay people are predators, 1915 01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,960 Speaker 1: that they that that they prey on their. 1916 01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,360 Speaker 2: Like you know, dudes, we're scared of them hitting on 1917 01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:58,639 Speaker 2: us like like you know, like we're praying or something. 1918 01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,000 Speaker 2: Who the fuck? You know? Like like like I mean, 1919 01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,519 Speaker 2: I know when I was younger and I was like nervous, 1920 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 2: I would you know, like I'd be nervous about interactions. 1921 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,000 Speaker 2: I think they would hit on me like like like 1922 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,760 Speaker 2: they're thinking of me as prey. You know, and and 1923 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,240 Speaker 2: then and always always comes back to who the fuck 1924 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:17,800 Speaker 2: do I think I am? But who fuck did I 1925 01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,400 Speaker 2: think I was? For somebody to even care enough to 1926 01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 2: try to pray. 1927 01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,560 Speaker 1: On me, right, And it's like it's then and we 1928 01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,920 Speaker 1: just underestimate how good gay people's gatar is, right, Like 1929 01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like I might have 1930 01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,960 Speaker 1: been here by a gay dude like maybe two times 1931 01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,559 Speaker 1: most in my life, and I've laughed off every other 1932 01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,760 Speaker 1: time and told the dude, yo, I'm straight. And it's been, 1933 01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, a fucking happy moment, and there's nothing uncomfortable 1934 01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:43,280 Speaker 1: or fucking threatening about that situation. 1935 01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,320 Speaker 2: I just we're just we're just so ignorant. We're just 1936 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,320 Speaker 2: just so just so ignorant and dude, like we we 1937 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,120 Speaker 2: how we grew up, you know, like you know, we 1938 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,320 Speaker 2: were taught not to. I don't I don't fuck with 1939 01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,160 Speaker 2: that ship. I don't fuck with that ship. 1940 01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:58,439 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 1941 01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,080 Speaker 2: But you know, like why why? What? What is the purpose? 1942 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:02,960 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And so like now we're 1943 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:06,040 Speaker 2: growing and we're still young as far as like or 1944 01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:07,720 Speaker 2: just it's still new to us, you know, we still 1945 01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,879 Speaker 2: have a lot to learn. And that's what's so important 1946 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,360 Speaker 2: about this movie is like you know, we're just now 1947 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,680 Speaker 2: taking these strides. You know they gay gay people, you know, 1948 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,639 Speaker 2: like gay gay people just got the right to fucking 1949 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:24,280 Speaker 2: get married, like what a year ago, Like you know, 1950 01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 2: we're we're just starting to be accepted, bro, you know 1951 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,000 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I mean, I know, me and 1952 01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,280 Speaker 2: you like we we've we've you know, ship like you 1953 01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,800 Speaker 2: know we we didn't. I mean, it is start a 1954 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,680 Speaker 2: year ago for us, but I mean, you know it's 1955 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:41,240 Speaker 2: it's it's rather new and we're seeing these roles. I 1956 01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:47,080 Speaker 2: think they just show like a a cartoon with like 1957 01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:50,200 Speaker 2: the Disney put the first you know, same sex kiss 1958 01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,840 Speaker 2: in a cartoon. So I mean, like, you know, people 1959 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,800 Speaker 2: are getting representation. I think it's important man. But yeah, yeah, 1960 01:38:58,240 --> 01:38:59,960 Speaker 2: I just I kind of I can't. I can understand 1961 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,600 Speaker 2: this guy's feeling. But I feel like, you know, I 1962 01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,560 Speaker 2: just tell myself down, you're fucking stupid. You know, you 1963 01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:08,680 Speaker 2: gotta say you think you're being dumb as fun. You 1964 01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:10,400 Speaker 2: gotta tell yourself that, you know what I mean? 1965 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's no reason. 1966 01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,760 Speaker 2: Why you should feel that way. This is this is 1967 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,000 Speaker 2: this is you know, this is it's completely fucking normal man? 1968 01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,640 Speaker 2: Or why are you're tripping over something? Anyway? Ultimately, the 1969 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,160 Speaker 2: scene is beautiful, like the movie itself. I wish those 1970 01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,439 Speaker 2: boys were environments that allow their love to foster and 1971 01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:31,120 Speaker 2: be beautiful too. Unfortunately people are off afforded the same 1972 01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:33,720 Speaker 2: liberties as straight people are. That's what take away from 1973 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,360 Speaker 2: the movie. Again, thanks to you both for the pot 1974 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,760 Speaker 2: and all the associated lives and conversations. I wish you 1975 01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,639 Speaker 2: both continue success with this whole thing. Thank you, Dinah 1976 01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:42,519 Speaker 2: call for man. He even send us a little hard 1977 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:49,880 Speaker 2: emoji a love you too, all right, man, Let's let's 1978 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,559 Speaker 2: read a couple more man, all right? So this. 1979 01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:56,519 Speaker 1: But I think. 1980 01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:58,519 Speaker 2: You're breaking up? 1981 01:39:59,200 --> 01:39:59,680 Speaker 1: Can't you hear me? 1982 01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:01,519 Speaker 2: Now? Hear me? 1983 01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:06,920 Speaker 1: All right? So this one is from Jack Aranda. I 1984 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,920 Speaker 1: think that's the name forgive me if I'm mis pronounced it. 1985 01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,920 Speaker 1: The last name looks like some of Louis and shit. 1986 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:17,240 Speaker 1: So I already loved you, if you baby? Yeah? 1987 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:20,839 Speaker 2: Like that's beautiful. 1988 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she trying to steal motherfucker's hearts over it? 1989 01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:25,960 Speaker 1: All right? So it says, hey, babes, you can call 1990 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,599 Speaker 1: me Jack. I just reread and this may be swallow 1991 01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,600 Speaker 1: already fuck spoiler alert if you ain't seen goddamn like 1992 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,240 Speaker 1: by nafucking all right, but people should see it already, 1993 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,759 Speaker 1: damn it exactly. I don't think I necessarily took anything 1994 01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,719 Speaker 1: new from him light, but it was an astoundingly beautiful 1995 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:44,400 Speaker 1: depiction of the multiplicities of humans. And I was so 1996 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:48,000 Speaker 1: emotional the entire time. Bruh Like. We went to eat 1997 01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,200 Speaker 1: lunch afterwards, and my whole damn body was vibrating. I 1998 01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,080 Speaker 1: couldn't initially put it into words, but just seeing one 1999 01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,920 Speaker 1: be such an emotional and thoughtful person and taking in 2000 01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:00,320 Speaker 1: this little boy who was struggling with life, but this 2001 01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,960 Speaker 1: baby is directly affected by him selling drugs of them 2002 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,479 Speaker 1: to the community. 2003 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 2: Community. 2004 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,760 Speaker 1: And then Janelle is Teresa, who was the dope man's 2005 01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,240 Speaker 1: old lady. I think they got a scene when she 2006 01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,439 Speaker 1: was sitting at the table with them, but also very 2007 01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:23,879 Speaker 1: sweet and nurturing me, where Chiron has none. The Charons themselves, 2008 01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:28,280 Speaker 1: all three of them through though my favorite segment the 2009 01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:31,240 Speaker 1: Kevin's the fact that Naomi Harris filmed all year of 2010 01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:36,960 Speaker 1: her gut wrenching, heartbreaking acting in three. That's the mom 2011 01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:42,840 Speaker 1: by the way, the philmography, the music, the dialogue. This 2012 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,880 Speaker 1: instantly made my phaseless. I have seen, I have since 2013 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:50,920 Speaker 1: inhaled everything about it, articles, interviews. I even have a 2014 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,920 Speaker 1: copy of the screenplay on my desk at work to 2015 01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:58,479 Speaker 1: Barry in Terrell. I'm just so happy that stories told 2016 01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,240 Speaker 1: that haven't been explored see a center in it, and 2017 01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:04,760 Speaker 1: it motivates me to finish my stories. I'm rambling because 2018 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,680 Speaker 1: I honestly can't say enough. I was screaming last night 2019 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,160 Speaker 1: when it turned out they actually won, because y'all know, 2020 01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:17,200 Speaker 1: yeah that, and they are so dis I have truly 2021 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:20,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed watching people both on Twitter and I'll discover it 2022 01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,479 Speaker 1: that was on Feel Free to wherever, I guess Lol. 2023 01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,679 Speaker 1: And they love you guys be in the big text 2024 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:31,320 Speaker 1: each other when every five draps it introversity, unite separately. 2025 01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,880 Speaker 1: I love you, Jack, I love you. 2026 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,720 Speaker 2: Like a motherfucker. That was great. I feel like if 2027 01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 2: she's from New Orleans, I get why she didn't really 2028 01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,360 Speaker 2: take anything from it, because it seems like, you know, 2029 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,400 Speaker 2: like big freedom people like that, you know, like it 2030 01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:48,880 Speaker 2: seems like New Orleans embracist differences. 2031 01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:51,519 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I 2032 01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 1: mean you. 2033 01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 2: Get a big freeom anywhere else in the in the nation. 2034 01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like like New Orleans, New Orleans is pretty pretty talerant, 2035 01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 1: gay coach, Like they got Sissy bounced, they got cy Nadi, 2036 01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, fucking big freedom. Motherfucking who who who is 2037 01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:12,599 Speaker 1: homb messy messy messy Maya Like yeah, yeah, they seem 2038 01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,200 Speaker 1: pretty tolerant down there, which is so fucking rare in 2039 01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:22,080 Speaker 1: the Deep South city. Question special, it's the most unique 2040 01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,679 Speaker 1: city in the in the nation. And I won't say 2041 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,160 Speaker 1: that because I really haven't explored other cities in the 2042 01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:28,040 Speaker 1: world to say that. 2043 01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a beautiful place. I think summer's 2044 01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:36,519 Speaker 2: my favorite place in the summer. Chicago and New Orleans, man, 2045 01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:40,559 Speaker 2: every summer cities. Man, it's a beautiful fucking city. Man. 2046 01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:44,639 Speaker 2: Like music is part of the infrastructure. It's like a building, 2047 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:45,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 2048 01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:45,920 Speaker 1: I love it. 2049 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:46,800 Speaker 2: I love New Orleans. 2050 01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:47,160 Speaker 5: Dog. 2051 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:48,679 Speaker 1: Like when we were down there and were talking about 2052 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,840 Speaker 1: fuckers like, hey, we're we're here visiting. What can we do? 2053 01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,559 Speaker 1: Motherfuckers would give us a dissertation of what their city 2054 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,759 Speaker 1: had to offer us too. 2055 01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,320 Speaker 2: Motherfuckers just will give it. This should take. They'd come 2056 01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:05,519 Speaker 2: pick us up Thailand, right, They were like, hey, we're 2057 01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,920 Speaker 2: gonna meet you at the bar. Hey, We're gonna have 2058 01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:13,559 Speaker 2: a fucking crawfish boil. We're gonna get you some. That's that's, 2059 01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,320 Speaker 2: that's what I got. That's when I started liking beer. 2060 01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:17,760 Speaker 2: Was in New Orleans. You can't, like, I don't think 2061 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:19,320 Speaker 2: if I had have drunk, If I had drunk that 2062 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,120 Speaker 2: a beata anywhere else, it wouldn't have been the same 2063 01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,400 Speaker 2: it was in New Orleans. Everything's better in New Orleans, man, 2064 01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,640 Speaker 2: you know, Like, dude, we had a crawfish boil with 2065 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,840 Speaker 2: people we had never met before. They brought us fucking 2066 01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:34,120 Speaker 2: preling candy. You know, they brought us the Budhan sausage. 2067 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,760 Speaker 2: You feel me, you know what I mean. We had 2068 01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:41,880 Speaker 2: to fucking crawfish beer. I mean, dude, out at a park, dog, 2069 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:44,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I mean they that's that's 2070 01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,080 Speaker 2: I mean to me, that's that's love. Bro. These are 2071 01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,200 Speaker 2: people that are always fuck with right, you know what 2072 01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,000 Speaker 2: I mean? I mean, that's just beautiful, man. Like then 2073 01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,479 Speaker 2: we went to the uh, we went to the to 2074 01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,719 Speaker 2: the motherfucking icy spot too. The little the little Fly Rice. 2075 01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,599 Speaker 1: The goddamn the freeze cup. 2076 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,960 Speaker 2: Is special. Dog, nigga, you was in a DJ booth. 2077 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, motherfucker's like, hey, you goddamn jack with a game 2078 01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:16,960 Speaker 1: with you too. I don't even know you are, but 2079 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:18,799 Speaker 1: you Yeah, yeah. 2080 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,559 Speaker 2: For sure. Man, that was a beautiful fucking place. Man, 2081 01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,840 Speaker 2: I love New Orleans, Man, But that's cool. That's cool. Anyway, 2082 01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:28,439 Speaker 2: I read this last one real quick. Let me see, 2083 01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:33,880 Speaker 2: all right, Perry, long time listener, et cetera. He said, 2084 01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:35,840 Speaker 2: you know the deal, longtime listener or whatever. 2085 01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:36,280 Speaker 1: All that. 2086 01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:38,400 Speaker 2: Well, that was one of my favorite movies of the 2087 01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:41,080 Speaker 2: year and definitely deserve Best Picture. Casey affleck is trash. 2088 01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,880 Speaker 2: By the way. What was I opening for me was 2089 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,439 Speaker 2: that I watched it with a good friend and we 2090 01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:48,240 Speaker 2: both agreed it was amazing both but we laughed and 2091 01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:50,320 Speaker 2: we realized we were watching a gay sex scene together. 2092 01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:54,200 Speaker 2: There's two bros. Nothing to see here. But basically, heterosexual 2093 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,160 Speaker 2: dudes like us need to be open to the universe 2094 01:45:56,160 --> 01:46:00,479 Speaker 2: and Ejac trash social constructs around sexuality. Machelinis can enjoy 2095 01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,360 Speaker 2: life more, which doesn't mean losing our identity, but fully 2096 01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:09,519 Speaker 2: enjoying the art that it's other people's identities. Yes, yes, yes, 2097 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 2: it's that simple, man. 2098 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:12,679 Speaker 4: Ah. 2099 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:18,559 Speaker 2: Just let people be themselves and be like, you know, like, dude, 2100 01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:23,439 Speaker 2: there's there's people like as a dude, as a fucking 2101 01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:29,920 Speaker 2: young idiot that was homophobic and being me now and 2102 01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:33,360 Speaker 2: to think about all my gay friends that I do 2103 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:37,599 Speaker 2: have now that I would not know and how much 2104 01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:41,880 Speaker 2: joy that I would not have experienced because of myself 2105 01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,600 Speaker 2: being an idiot. No, fuck that, man, you know what 2106 01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:46,040 Speaker 2: I mean. 2107 01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,240 Speaker 7: Open up to these people, let them surprise you, bro, 2108 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,120 Speaker 7: you know, and then like there's people in general, you 2109 01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:52,880 Speaker 7: know what I mean, like open up to people like 2110 01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:56,200 Speaker 7: you know and their differences and learn, you know, I mean, 2111 01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,880 Speaker 7: how much I'm a better human being because of the 2112 01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,720 Speaker 7: differences I've about from people who are different from me. 2113 01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:04,920 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, from people like you know, 2114 01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,800 Speaker 2: Like like I told you that when that that the 2115 01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:09,679 Speaker 2: way to do. When I when I was talking about 2116 01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,560 Speaker 2: the interactional acs I had in high school as a 2117 01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:17,439 Speaker 2: senior in social studies, I remember calling uh Britney Spears 2118 01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:21,519 Speaker 2: dancer the F word and the gator was in there, 2119 01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,439 Speaker 2: and I remember apologizing to it because I realized it 2120 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,519 Speaker 2: was probably like calling a black person and nigga, and 2121 01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,360 Speaker 2: he straight up said I'm not that I'm a gay 2122 01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,360 Speaker 2: male And in the physic because I'm not an F word, 2123 01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm a gay male. And that just after that, like 2124 01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,000 Speaker 2: this is a special motherfucker, and my interactions with him 2125 01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,160 Speaker 2: after that opened my mind to different things. I had 2126 01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,240 Speaker 2: had of ways to go, bro, I had ways to go. 2127 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,479 Speaker 2: The church ship was still in me, you know what 2128 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Like I had to say it's all bad. 2129 01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,000 Speaker 2: I was just fucked up by it, you know what 2130 01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,519 Speaker 2: I mean. And I had uh you know, and like, 2131 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,040 Speaker 2: but I had ways to go. But like, you know, 2132 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:57,519 Speaker 2: I remember my my girlfriend in college, her cousin was gay. 2133 01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:58,960 Speaker 2: He would let us stay at their crib like in 2134 01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,760 Speaker 2: the summers and stuff like that was super cool. I mean, 2135 01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,800 Speaker 2: it's growing and being open minded and learning from people 2136 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,840 Speaker 2: and not being scared, learning not to be scared of 2137 01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,400 Speaker 2: like differences. It's just important, man, you know, like open 2138 01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 2: up to the open up too different to people's differences 2139 01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:17,320 Speaker 2: and learn from them, you know, Like I think we're 2140 01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:19,200 Speaker 2: scared that, you know. I think I think it's just 2141 01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:23,880 Speaker 2: people just insecure with themselves and scared of change, you 2142 01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:26,760 Speaker 2: know what I mean, or being changed with they experience, 2143 01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:28,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 2144 01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:35,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, Yeah, I mean, I mean 2145 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:39,439 Speaker 1: I don't why ever, so fucking upset that we have 2146 01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,120 Speaker 1: finally reached the point where society has progressed, where this 2147 01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:47,040 Speaker 1: is being represented in media, Like I think. 2148 01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:48,720 Speaker 2: You know what people are upset though, you know what 2149 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,920 Speaker 2: I mean, people, it doesn't make any sense, but we 2150 01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,640 Speaker 2: know what people because people are fucking stupid. That's why 2151 01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,320 Speaker 2: they're said. People are fucking stupid, and it's we've been 2152 01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:01,080 Speaker 2: historically fucking dumb, you know what I mean. But but 2153 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense for us to be, you know, 2154 01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:09,040 Speaker 2: to be to to to dislike this so much, you know, 2155 01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:10,519 Speaker 2: to be so afraid of it. 2156 01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:13,800 Speaker 1: Gay people have, gay people have existed. Have you ever 2157 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,280 Speaker 1: gone through like a phone book with your I'm not 2158 01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:19,640 Speaker 1: a a fucking photo album with like your mom and 2159 01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:23,160 Speaker 1: there's like a gay cousin and everyone knows that cousin 2160 01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:26,080 Speaker 1: is gay, you know what I'm saying, Like like like 2161 01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:27,799 Speaker 1: that ship has existed forever. 2162 01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,080 Speaker 2: Dude, I got a cousin. I'm not gonna I don't 2163 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,400 Speaker 2: want to say his government name. We call him Buddha, 2164 01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:38,920 Speaker 2: though the name is Buddha like like fucking African, like 2165 01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:43,720 Speaker 2: like Buddha today Buddha. You're thinking, like, you know, a 2166 01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:47,680 Speaker 2: big straw motherfucker man, you know, and like you know, 2167 01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,960 Speaker 2: like supermass or whatever, you know what I mean. And 2168 01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,280 Speaker 2: he turned out to be gay, like can call him 2169 01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:56,360 Speaker 2: to be gay, you know what I mean, And like 2170 01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,600 Speaker 2: everybody knows he's gay, you know what I mean, But 2171 01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:01,920 Speaker 2: like like yeah, like you get looked through you look 2172 01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:05,360 Speaker 2: through fucking albums, like, oh yeah he does, you know, 2173 01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,160 Speaker 2: he looks you know, he has you know, more feminine 2174 01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:14,880 Speaker 2: mannerisms or dress more femininely, you know what I mean? Right, yeah, yeah, dude. 2175 01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,200 Speaker 2: And also do like looking look at your fucking history books, 2176 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,920 Speaker 2: all these niggas with heils on in these white fucking 2177 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,320 Speaker 2: uh his white fucking wigs. And Ship, you know, like 2178 01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:27,000 Speaker 2: that ship was prominent, like you know those times you know, 2179 01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:31,519 Speaker 2: like dudes like Kings would have like you know, young male, 2180 01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:33,519 Speaker 2: what do you call them? What do you call them? 2181 01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:34,879 Speaker 2: You call them mistresses? 2182 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,160 Speaker 1: What do they call fucking cocky binds? And ship? 2183 01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Ship's been around dog like motherfucker's just I 2184 01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:47,799 Speaker 2: don't know, man, Just stop fucking stop being so fucking 2185 01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:52,160 Speaker 2: closed minded. And this embrace your reality, you know what 2186 01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:54,320 Speaker 2: I mean. Embrace the reality that is life, you know, 2187 01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,560 Speaker 2: And and and fucking you know, and and and and 2188 01:50:57,680 --> 01:50:59,559 Speaker 2: find the beauty in it? You know what I mean? 2189 01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:02,920 Speaker 2: You're just making life harting yourself by just you know, 2190 01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:06,560 Speaker 2: hating so much, so many things that are just pointless 2191 01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:11,040 Speaker 2: to hate. It's just fucking stupid. Man. Just stop being 2192 01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:15,760 Speaker 2: a fucking dummy, please a man? What you doing? 2193 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:16,000 Speaker 4: Man? 2194 01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,400 Speaker 2: Eating chips and some ship and I'm god damn. 2195 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,800 Speaker 1: Adjusting my laptop. 2196 01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:25,080 Speaker 2: All right, man, Well, I guess it's time for you 2197 01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:28,880 Speaker 2: to get to your lady till I said, what's good? 2198 01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:35,439 Speaker 2: Had some fun? I enjoy each other, enjoy the love 2199 01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:43,840 Speaker 2: thanks between one another. Yeah, yeah, cut it up. 2200 01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:44,080 Speaker 4: Man. 2201 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:48,200 Speaker 2: You know, lonely fucking laying in bed holding my dick, 2202 01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:48,920 Speaker 2: you feel me like. 2203 01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,080 Speaker 1: You also goddamn this ship like it's God damn two 2204 01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,360 Speaker 1: thousand and three out here. But I'm I'm I'm proving 2205 01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:57,880 Speaker 1: for you, bro. 2206 01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:00,400 Speaker 2: Hopefully we figure this out. 2207 01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:00,519 Speaker 1: Bro. 2208 01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:02,800 Speaker 2: Alright, man? How let you love you? Bro? 2209 01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:03,800 Speaker 1: Love you too? 2210 01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:04,080 Speaker 4: Man? 2211 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:04,559 Speaker 2: Man? 2212 01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:05,880 Speaker 1: Alright, broy. 2213 01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:34,320 Speaker 5: Through driving and fall and natural disaster, my baby has 2214 01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:44,400 Speaker 5: been around for me. Kingdom de falling, the angels be cold, 2215 01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:50,599 Speaker 5: and no I know that could ever make me leave. 2216 01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:57,200 Speaker 1: Every time I look into your. 2217 01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:03,839 Speaker 4: Eyside, it your lady. 2218 01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:12,400 Speaker 5: Every time I get a busy said, I've fel 2219 01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:23,000 Speaker 2: Who could have thought I get sho