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Speaker 1: from the Volume Podcast Network. I am Chadenlman, Chief Content

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Speaker 1: Officer of the Action Network, coming to you from beautiful

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada. Action Network as a big, big presence

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Speaker 1: at the Draft this year because the Draft, the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft has become a really fun betting event. I'm not

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Speaker 1: when you do anything in Vegas, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Simon. Yeah, you know you decided not

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Speaker 1: I rule, Simon. I looked at the other way. Where

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Speaker 1: I cost the Action Network zero dollars other than a paycheck.

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Speaker 1: So exactly what you're just saying, Chad, it's it's going

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. I still think they're one of those

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Speaker 1: teams waiting on Baker they get released. But the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: Drew Lock is not They're going to be their quarterback

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Speaker 1: this year. I just can't see it. So there are

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Speaker 1: teams in Carolina as well. There are teams in the

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Speaker 1: top ten that neat quarterbacks. It's just interesting where so

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Speaker 1: many people have mocked no quarterbacks in the top ten

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Speaker 1: and you have guys that are mocking two quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the top ten. So I've been betting on that where

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Speaker 1: it's like Malik right now was over runner. I thinks

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Speaker 1: eleven and a a half on Fame too. I've been been

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Speaker 1: in the under at a plus number for him to

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Speaker 1: be in the top ten. So I like the value

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Speaker 1: on those kind of belts that you mentioned the cornerbacks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: everyone's talking about Derek Stingley on that Gardener, Um, Trent McDuffie,

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Speaker 1: and then uh, the two guys that if you're betting

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Speaker 1: the over three and a half, you're kind of betting

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Speaker 1: on Andrew Booth from Clemson and Kyle Goreon from Washington

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Speaker 1: as being the guys who might sneak into the probably

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Speaker 1: the last seven, eight nine picks of the first round. Um,

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Speaker 1: but if you were to make a bet on who

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Speaker 1: would be the first one taken, do you think it's

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Speaker 1: Stingy or do you think it's Gardner Given the way

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Speaker 1: the trends have been going. Honestly, I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Solaced Gardner like I had him going to the Jets. Um,

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Speaker 1: because I do have I do have Houston having one

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Speaker 1: of these old funds of Lineen dropped him. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's gonna be Neil or COONa. But um, again,

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Speaker 1: I'm lower. That's my whole issue here is I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: lower on Walker. I had I had Walker on my

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Speaker 1: top ten, I didn't haven't been a top three picks,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's if if Walker drops. There's just a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that are gonna get bumped up here

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Speaker 1: in the quarterbacks one of all. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to talk about abut Kyle Hamilton because he's a coworker.

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Speaker 1: We love him, we love the Valume network. Um I

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Speaker 1: have to bet his over right now. I think they

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Speaker 1: haven't set at eleven and a half or ten and

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Speaker 1: a half at vandel safety is it is a It

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Speaker 1: is a key position for sure, but we've just seen

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Speaker 1: the way the NFL is It's like, is it one

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Speaker 1: of the top five most important positions to a team?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We can go through where it's like quarterback,

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, d line, why receiver. I mean, we've seen

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Speaker 1: they begin paid the highest right buying quarterbacks this offseason,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, it's just hard for me to make

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Speaker 1: a safety at top ten pick where that's not that's

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Speaker 1: not how you change your team. Really, we know what

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Speaker 1: We have too few examples of a team drafting the

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Speaker 1: safety that changed their whole makeup. So I love Kyle.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be incredible professional. Um, I just

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Speaker 1: I can't see him going top ten. So that's one

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Speaker 1: of those where I'm down on that. But again, shout

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Speaker 1: out to our guys Scott Smith. He said he loves

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Speaker 1: the over one and a half safety is taken on

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Speaker 1: the first round. I think it's up to minus three

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Speaker 1: hundred at Vandel. That's a lot of juice. But like

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Speaker 1: he talked about, there's who different safety is that might

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Speaker 1: get in the very end of that first round. So

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good value. If you think three safeties might

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Speaker 1: be going in the first round, the over undersend a

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Speaker 1: one and a half. All right, So I want to

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Speaker 1: summarize here because I do want people to be able

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Speaker 1: to go listen to this and make some moves since

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Speaker 1: the windows are closing. Uh over, we don't have safety

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Over four and a half cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: taking in the first five or six, So that's good value.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, if you can get a there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of single game parlays. What was the one

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, Trayvon Walker and Malik Willis. Yeah, so Trayvon

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Speaker 1: Walker would be the first pick and then Malik Willis

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Speaker 1: be the first quarterback taking. I believe last night it

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Speaker 1: was like plus two twenty. Um, it might be down

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Speaker 1: a little bit just because Walker's odds just keep going up,

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Speaker 1: like right, before we hopped on, his odds have gone

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Speaker 1: on even more so. Um, again, these lines are gonna

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Speaker 1: be moving like crazy. That's why I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, because that's when you kind of really know

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Speaker 1: what the deal is. Again, there's always a curveball, but

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Speaker 1: usually when you wake up in the Vegas guys have

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Speaker 1: kind of done their business and they've had their runners

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Speaker 1: around the country make bets for him. They usually know

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Speaker 1: Thursday morning what the real deals. Again, we did a

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Speaker 1: show last year I had breaking news like was that

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Speaker 1: eleven am So yeah, yes, it's a lot of chaos

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Speaker 1: draft day and that's why again we just talked about

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Speaker 1: the sports books in Vegas. They're just talking at risk

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Speaker 1: and they're taking their lines now, all right. We have

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Speaker 1: done a lot of draft coverage on this podcast, a

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Speaker 1: lot of draft beating coverage, because it's becoming a thing.

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Speaker 1: It just is there's too many markets to ignore. There's

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Speaker 1: too much variants at the top of the draft board,

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Speaker 1: too many people with too many opinions that people can

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Speaker 1: listen to and try to make some money off of.

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Speaker 1: I would say exercise caution. I would say do it

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Speaker 1: for fun, um, do not do it for profit. Do

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Speaker 1: it to give you a little bit of a rooting

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Speaker 1: interest Thursday night. Um, I think that's all I have

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Speaker 1: to say about this one. Sun Well, I gotta ask

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Speaker 1: you before we go, what do you think about your

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Speaker 1: boy Robert Quinn might be getting traded? What do you

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Speaker 1: have eight and a half sacks last year and you

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Speaker 1: guys are on to get a first round pick for him?

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Speaker 1: That makes you kind of good, right because the Bears

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00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: have what picks sixty something right now? Yeah? I think

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Speaker 1: we got to get into the first round. Um. And

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Speaker 1: I think with with lineman, like it with defensive with

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Speaker 1: edge rushers, it goes fast. And I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: you can get eighteen sacks and have that record breaking

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00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: year and the next year you getting ate. And we

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Speaker 1: saw with Cleo Mac right, and so I'm glad they

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Speaker 1: got rid of Cleo mac I'm fine if they get

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Speaker 1: rid of Robert Quinn. The truth is, if we all

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Speaker 1: believe that Justin Fields is a dynamic offensive presence, then

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Speaker 1: we have to do everything we can to protect him

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Speaker 1: and get him weapons. And as much as we as

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Speaker 1: Chicago fans love, love, love the idea that we have

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Speaker 1: a dominant defense and that nothing is better than Bears

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Speaker 1: defense in December. We can't waste justin fields, and so

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Speaker 1: trade everything you can to get the assets you need

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. That's what I think,

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Speaker 1: even if it's assets for next year, because it's your

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Speaker 1: GM left you guys in such a bad hole like

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Speaker 1: the new GM that's coming in. Not that you have

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Speaker 1: to do a total tear down, but I think he

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Speaker 1: is looking at Ward it's like, Okay, Roger's just read

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Speaker 1: up with Green Bay. They have a minimum another two

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Speaker 1: years that'll be doing Roger stuff, like still being dominant.

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Speaker 1: I have me trade Robert just because it's like, like

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Speaker 1: you just said, next year, he could not do what

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Speaker 1: he did this year, Like he might have ten sexs,

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Speaker 1: which is a great season, but selling a guy after

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Speaker 1: eighteen a half sacks, that's that's the move when you're

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Speaker 1: a team that's not really doing anything next year. So

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Speaker 1: I I hope that I've read it's true and that

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Speaker 1: they were moving to trick in the first round, because again,

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Speaker 1: they're just gonna be wasting years here of justin fields.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, you can't do that when we have

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Speaker 1: a rookie contract. You got three years left, right, and

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Speaker 1: that's then you got a role alright, so it sounded

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Speaker 1: to wrap it up. Back to Vegas. Get back to

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