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Speaker 3: And Bobby bil Happy Wednesday, everyone, Welcome to Cowboys Cross

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Speaker 3: I'm Bobby BELF F one five three the Fan, the

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Speaker 3: by the pride of the University of Missouri, Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 3: a very proud Missouri Tiger over here. Absolutely as always,

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Speaker 3: we've got the three time Super Bowl champs six time

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowler and John Madden's favorite football player of all time.

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Speaker 3: Nate Newton, Yes here and our guest tonight is one

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Speaker 3: of the greatest defensive backs to ever touch a football field.

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Speaker 3: He is a three time All Pro, four time Pro Bowler,

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Speaker 3: and three time NFL interceptions leader. I'm, of course talking

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Speaker 3: about Dallas native and Bergner High School alum Everson Walls. Everson,

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Speaker 3: thanks for joining.

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Speaker 4: Us, man, Bobby. You're famous, man, I'm ever the radio. Bobby.

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Speaker 3: That just means I'm oversaturated. Ever since that's not famous,

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Speaker 3: that's not a great thing. I've got to ask you

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Speaker 3: because you know, we just we ran through kind of

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Speaker 3: the the list there of all the accomplishments and things

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Speaker 3: like that, and we already knew you as somebody who

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Speaker 3: three time interception leader at the end level. But you

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Speaker 3: also led the nation and interceptions your senior year at

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Speaker 3: Gramblin you led the state and interceptions at high school.

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Speaker 3: When you're at Bergner High School, you're one year playing football.

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Speaker 3: So I guess let's start there. Just your senior year

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Speaker 3: at Bergner. How was it that you went from just

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Speaker 4: Man, we'd have to go through psychology one on one

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Speaker 3: Hey, but that's what we're here for. We're here to

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Speaker 3: get people psychology when I want.

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Speaker 4: You know, back in high school, I was just a

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Speaker 4: very angry young man and I just wanted to play basketball.

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Speaker 4: That's all I wanted to do. And even though I

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Speaker 4: I ended up not trying out my junior year and

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Speaker 4: football was nowhere in my plans. It's no way I

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Speaker 3: So I got to ask that in basketball because naturally,

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Speaker 3: So you know, I know you ended up after that.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's fascinating. I hear you talk about

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Speaker 3: Was that just an instant wake up calling, instant change

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Speaker 4: My first game, Doug Williams of course is out there.

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Speaker 4: I was playing half the season. Uh my junior year.

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Speaker 4: It's something about my demeanor. Uh that does not bring

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Speaker 4: But for some reason, coach Robinson just he didn't trust me,

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Speaker 4: They brought some of the best of town. Joe seven

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Speaker 2: Like a storm everywhere he went like a storm.

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Speaker 4: M bluetoo this right. Not only did he take.

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Speaker 4: He was cool, sweat was cool. He came on our campus.

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Speaker 4: They came to our dorm talking trash about how they're

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Speaker 4: They ended up Uh. He went to Saskatchewan and played

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Speaker 4: Because when you have a guy that not very athletic,

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Speaker 3: The start and first go for the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk.

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Speaker 3: I'm Bobby Belt from one O five through the Fan Tonight,

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Speaker 3: I'm joined by Mickey Spagnola from Dallascowboys dot Com. We've

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Speaker 2: So I didn't mean no no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: You've got to have the most decorated career in terms

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Speaker 3: a forecast for like how you think he's ultimately going

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Speaker 3: to play out as a college coach?

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Speaker 4: You know, when it comes to Belichick, I'm always optimistic

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Speaker 4: because I mean, the guy knows football back and forth.

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Speaker 4: Not only that, I'm kind of probably like and Nick,

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Speaker 4: I believe in kind of old school thinking, and that's Belichick.

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Speaker 4: They talked about today, you can't have too many damn

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Speaker 4: excuses on the team. And that's one thing that Belichick

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Speaker 4: does not suffer. He does not suffer excuses from anybody.

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Speaker 4: If you're on this team, that means you're a football player.

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Speaker 4: If you're a football player, you can make football plays.

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Speaker 4: And he holds you to that. And I think there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of excuses around now in society as well

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Speaker 4: about why we can't do something. Belichick and guys great

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Speaker 4: great ourselves, they all think, why can't you do it?

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Speaker 4: There's no reason you cannot do it.

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Speaker 3: Let's take our second break here on the s WBC

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Speaker 3: cowvich KRSTOK. We got Everson Walls joining us. Say, now,

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Speaker 3: of course, we've got Nate Newton, Mickey Spagnola. I'm Bobby

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Speaker 3: Belt from one five three defense when we come back. Boy.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of discussion about communication, execute, shin

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Speaker 3: responsibility all those Cowboys secondary, particularly after what was a

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Speaker 3: brutal it was a brutal Week three loss to the

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Speaker 3: Chicago Bears. We're gonna get into it with Everson Walls

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Speaker 3: when we've come back around the SLBBC Cowboys Cross.

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Speaker 3: and our special guests this evening is the original Ballhawk.

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Speaker 3: Three time All Pro, four time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 3: high school college and NFL interceptions leader Everson Walls. Everson,

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Speaker 3: thanks again for being with us tonight.

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Speaker 4: That sounded good. High school, college, and I.

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Speaker 3: Know it's all three levels. You know, we talked about

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Speaker 3: all three phases of the game. You're all three levels

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Speaker 3: of football. You're out here dominating and being an interception leader.

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Speaker 3: So we made a reference to it before we went

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Speaker 3: to break here. The Cowboys obviously had a tough performance

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Speaker 3: last Sunday against the Bears. They dropped that one thirty

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Speaker 3: one to fourteen, and it was a lot of the

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Speaker 3: same issues that were on display in what was a

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Speaker 3: tough but well deserved and well earned victory in Week

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Speaker 3: two against the Giants, which is just it looked like

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Speaker 3: a lot of busts and coverage, a lot of bad communication,

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Speaker 3: and there were a lot of it's starting to great

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Speaker 3: on Brian Schottenheimer. I think you can tell Monday when

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Speaker 3: he was talking to the media. Now he's feeling all

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Speaker 3: under the weather, but I think he was also not

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Speaker 3: super happy after watching things back and you talked about, look,

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Speaker 3: there's got to be some changes probably, and even in

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Speaker 3: third personnel. Changes can be on the block. When you

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Speaker 3: watch the scene right now, Everson, and you see in

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Speaker 3: the secondary specifically some of their problems. Is there anything

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Speaker 3: that just flashes at you or blinks in your mind

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Speaker 3: and it says, hey, this is the biggest thing they've

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Speaker 3: got to correct right now.

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Speaker 4: Well, just besides knowing their assignments, recognition. Most good defenses

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Speaker 4: and we talk about it on the podcast, most good

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Speaker 4: defenses they have an idea what an offense is trying

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Speaker 4: to do to them, and that allows them to anticipate

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Speaker 4: at the snap of the ball. If they line up

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Speaker 4: in a certain formation, then you always see the good defenses.

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Speaker 4: You always see that middle lineback or that safety. There

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Speaker 4: it is here we go. Be ready, be ready. They're

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Speaker 4: making a defensive audible maybe, and they're ready for not

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Speaker 4: just to make their audible, they're also ready if the

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Speaker 4: offenses makes its audible. So there's this you know, this

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Speaker 4: chess game going back and forth that we seem to

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Speaker 4: be losing on every play. You have to be able

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Speaker 4: to anticipate what you're going up against. Otherwise you're just

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Speaker 4: going out. There's a blind team. You have to know

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Speaker 4: what what their their their habits are. You have to

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Speaker 4: know what they're they've done in these situations before, and

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Speaker 4: that's just coaching one oh one. I want to blame

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Speaker 4: the players, but it seems as if there's a communication gap.

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Speaker 4: Because I'm sure the coaches know this.

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Speaker 3: Yea, he knows this.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy that's he's the master at doing this.

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Speaker 4: It seems as if there's a a a gap between

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Speaker 4: what he knows versus what he's able to show them

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Speaker 4: that he knows. Because trust me, if he's as good

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Speaker 4: as coaches I think he is, then he should be

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Speaker 4: able to communicate better to his players.

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Speaker 3: This is a really good point to bring up because

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Speaker 3: this is the thing that I like asking guys who

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Speaker 3: have played because a lot of times fans here communication.

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Speaker 3: I think they felt this way a couple years ago

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Speaker 3: when the offense talked about it. They hear communication, They go,

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Speaker 3: that's such a broad catch all. I don't know football,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand it. What do you mean communication? You're

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Speaker 3: not talking to your teammate, You're not What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: So take the most complex defense you ever played in,

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Speaker 3: whichever one that would have been defense. So you're in

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Speaker 3: that defense, walk us through, call comes into the huddle,

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Speaker 3: you break and pre snap. Let's say the offense makes

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Speaker 3: some sort of a shift. What's the process of communicating

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Speaker 3: to everybody how you're going to adjust and what needs

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Speaker 3: to be communicated and how it's communicated.

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Speaker 4: If you have a shift by the offense, it could

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Speaker 4: change everything about that formation altogether. In other words, if

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Speaker 4: you have three wide receivers, then you're going to be

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Speaker 4: playing a pass pretty much a pass defense, especially if

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Speaker 4: they come out in a wide formation. Let's say they

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Speaker 4: shift down and you've got to tight end and and

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Speaker 4: a wide receiver that together. At that point, you're looking

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Speaker 4: at now potential crossing routes coming from the tight alignment

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Speaker 4: by the wide receiver. You're looking at possible audible to

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Speaker 4: a running play, because that's why they brought the wide

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Speaker 4: receiver in to shield off anyone coming from the inside.

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Speaker 4: Not only do the dbs have to talk about what

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Speaker 4: the change is now, the middle linebacker has to adjust

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Speaker 4: his defensive line. So there's going to be a recommunication

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Speaker 4: doing every level of the game, in the secondary as

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Speaker 4: well as on the line of scrimmage. Everything changes based

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Speaker 4: on the call that we anticipate, because worst are, we

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Speaker 4: anticipate them doing this, So once they do it preodou

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Speaker 4: is guys, Now we're gonna change that flex week to

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Speaker 4: a flex straw, and that's a totally different thing. Now

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Speaker 4: the strength is over here, it's not over here on

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Speaker 4: the other side. You understand. Those are the kind of

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Speaker 4: things him changes your entire responsibility as a team and

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Speaker 4: the player.

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Speaker 2: You just are you done messed up them?

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Speaker 4: Folks?

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Speaker 2: Worst?

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Speaker 5: Let me give you a little bit simpler and tell

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Speaker 5: me from.

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Speaker 4: None of you have you understood them?

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Speaker 5: Folks out there and Radio Land said this dude just

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Speaker 5: mess Let me give you an example of what he's saying.

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Speaker 5: You have three receivers on one side bunched up. You

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Speaker 5: have one receiver on the other side. Okay, now you

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Speaker 5: have three DB's possibly covering these guys. All you can

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Speaker 5: bring a linebacker out a between guy.

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Speaker 2: But let's say it's DB's.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, from a safety point of view, you have

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Speaker 5: three guys on one side. You bring that safety over

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Speaker 5: just a little bit more. He has the favor, he

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Speaker 5: has the favorite. Well, we had place where they didn't favorite.

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Speaker 5: But if that guy go one of those three receivers

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Speaker 5: go over to the other side. First of all, you

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Speaker 5: gotta let that corner over there by himself, because I'm

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Speaker 5: saying this one shot guy in the hole. You letting

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Speaker 5: that guy know, hey man, you're by yourself. And that

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Speaker 5: is Diggs who we saw took the shot. That was Diggs.

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Speaker 5: They should have let him know, Diggs, you're by yourself.

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Speaker 5: So now you don't take that shot and miss, you

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Speaker 5: get back because you by yourself. But if that receiver

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Speaker 5: on the other that's in that three bunch come over there,

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Speaker 5: then that safety have to come back to the middle

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Speaker 5: field or come down the live it lord. But he

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Speaker 5: has to let Diggs know we're working together.

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Speaker 2: Now we got deep quarters. We got deep quarters.

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Speaker 5: It's now if I'm a fat lineman telling you this

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Speaker 5: right here, the flex ain't gonna never be learned.

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Speaker 2: So he shouldn't have used the flex defense, the one.

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Speaker 4: He gave you gave them.

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Speaker 5: I used to look at the flex and now that's

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Speaker 5: what I almost got cut by rookie trying to learn

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Speaker 5: how to block the fleas.

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Speaker 2: But that is as simple as I.

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Speaker 4: Can make it. And I think also nate the technique

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Speaker 4: within the defense cars. And I fussed with Spags about this.

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Speaker 4: There's too many free releases. Those free releases they give

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Speaker 4: them too much pressure on your safeties. They cannot line

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Speaker 4: up deep enough. If you're going to play defensive back

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Speaker 4: and you're going to play a wide open offense. This

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Speaker 4: is one thing that Belichick tart Us, you have to reroute.

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Speaker 4: We didn't do this with the Cowboys. We did not

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Speaker 4: do this because we didn't play that much zone. When

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Speaker 4: it's when it comes to playing a zone, as you

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Speaker 4: play cover two, and we didn't even play Cover two

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Speaker 4: three in New York Cover two. That line back, whether

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Speaker 4: it's Call Banks or if it's Pepper Johnson, yes, they're

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Speaker 4: going to reroute that slot receiver every time. Give me

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Speaker 4: a shot as a safety so that I can have

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Speaker 4: leverage on everything going side to side or deep. And

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Speaker 4: it sounds difficult, but it really isn't. You just deviate,

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Speaker 4: just a little deviation and it changes everything.

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Speaker 3: And I talked to Spags about this.

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Speaker 4: All the time. Plays have timing, they have a beat

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Speaker 4: to it, there's a rhythm to it. When you're safety,

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Speaker 4: you have got it. When you're safety, you have got

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Speaker 4: to get back deep enough to where you know that

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Speaker 4: ball's gonna be thrown within four seconds. Just give me

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Speaker 4: four seconds. You don't have to play six seconds. Hopefully

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Speaker 4: you don't have to play seven seconds. You just have

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Speaker 4: to be deep enough for a four second play. And

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Speaker 4: right now we are making these three second plays because

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Speaker 4: the receiver are releasing and the safeties are like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I know what they're saying. I can't say it on

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Speaker 4: the radio over to Damn. I got I'm beat because

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Speaker 4: I lost my leverage because this guy came down on

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Speaker 4: me untouched.

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Speaker 6: So what you're saying is Luther Burden shouldn't have been

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Speaker 6: running down Michigan Avenue with no cars on either side

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Speaker 6: of them for sixty five yards.

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Speaker 4: This correct, this correct.

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Speaker 2: This is, and this is this all.

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Speaker 5: The only person that's getting inconvenience for a split second,

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Speaker 5: it's the outside linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Are our out wide defensive end? You just a split.

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Speaker 5: Second you jammed this dude so all the time, and

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Speaker 5: did you rush?

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Speaker 3: It's it's a you know, it reminds me of we

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Speaker 3: were out of a training camp, I think two years ago,

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Speaker 3: and Mickey standing up one of those platforms, those high

653
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Speaker 3: rise platforms, so we kind of get a unique opportunity

654
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Speaker 3: to kind of see things and hear things a little

655
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Speaker 3: bet and I remember Dak was running through receiver routes

656
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Speaker 3: with the tight ends and he was having brothers. And

657
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Speaker 3: when you talk about that precision, I remember he throws

658
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Speaker 3: a pass. He has Princeton Fant running he route, and

659
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Speaker 3: he throws the route and he goes again and he

660
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Speaker 3: calls Princeton Fan back and he goes Fan, that's twelve.

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Speaker 3: That's not twelve and a half. And he's like, if

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Speaker 3: you want the ball in your hands, you need to

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Speaker 3: be twelve. Yes, it And and I remember, you know

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Speaker 3: Dennis Houston when he started. I was talking about this

665
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Speaker 3: before the show. When Dennis Houston was active as an

666
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Speaker 3: undrafted free agent rookie and third round Jalen Tolbert as

667
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Speaker 3: a rookie receiver was not active. And you would ask

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Speaker 3: people to team, why is Dennis Houston active? And they

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Speaker 3: would say they're gonna they Dennis Uson's gonna be where

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Speaker 3: he's go Dennis is gonna be where he's supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: And that's a big part of the battle right there.

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Speaker 3: So to your point, those little jams knocking somebody out

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Speaker 3: the route that can.

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Speaker 4: Throw off all timing. And now Russell Wilson or you know, Caleb,

675
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Speaker 4: they can't just sit there and on the podcast talk

676
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Speaker 4: about and just go timing one, two, three, four, five,

677
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Speaker 4: plant throw one tooth three plant throw. You can't do

678
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 4: that if you reroute people. They do it to us

679
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: all the time. That's why I'm so confused when when

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Speaker 4: teams play best against the Cowboys offense, it's because they

681
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: disrupt our time in every time, and as a matter

682
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Speaker 4: of fact, they'll even give room to breathe most of

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Speaker 4: the time. That can be discerning for a quarterback, initially

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Speaker 4: until the ball is snapped.

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Speaker 6: So go ahead, I was gonna say, and a lot

686
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Speaker 6: of it. It seems like it should be recognition of

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Speaker 6: what's about to happen. And I'm gonna give you guys

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Speaker 6: an example. One year we're in training camp that win

689
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Speaker 6: shows up. He's working radio in San Antonio, and I'm

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Speaker 6: standing next to him and he's he's watching the offense

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Speaker 6: line up right, and he goes, do da da dot

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Speaker 6: da dad, they better watch for this, And he was.

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Speaker 3: Right every time. He wasn't even that practice.

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Speaker 6: He was just recognizing formations and saying, here's what's gotta happen.

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Speaker 6: You got to be able to do that and be

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Speaker 6: smart if you've done your studying to prepare for that stuff.

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Speaker 6: To you know it was like, and we talked about it, Bobby.

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Speaker 6: Of course I had an eye on Luther Burden, right,

699
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Speaker 6: came from the University of Missouri, had two catches coming

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Speaker 6: into the game.

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Speaker 3: Right, and he lines up three to one side.

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Speaker 6: He's in the middle, and somebody had to think, now,

703
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Speaker 6: why is he there? He's only had two catches in

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Speaker 6: three games, and this guy's lining up right there and

705
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Speaker 6: nobody touched him.

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Speaker 3: He just right down the field.

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Speaker 4: You know that.

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Speaker 5: The thing is they paid fourteen per man. Okay, what

709
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Speaker 5: happens if he's okay, fellas, Okay, fellas, let's go, let's

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Speaker 5: go twenty five or third percent. Man, what people are

711
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: failing to realize it's two things are not happening.

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Speaker 2: There's no recognition in what is going on.

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Speaker 5: There's no uh prerecognition, and there's no talk talking through

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Speaker 5: the play.

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Speaker 2: And and and most important to me, and people keep.

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Speaker 5: Saying, I've talked to a lot of dbs like it's man,

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Speaker 5: I understand that I may have to take away that

718
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Speaker 5: first option, but lord Jesus, can we get.

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Speaker 2: Somebody to touch the quarterback?

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Speaker 5: Everybody just keep ignoring that we are right touching the

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Speaker 5: quarter Were donna spend the whole seven forty four.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when we're gonna touch the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a great question because there's a guy

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Speaker 3: come to town who has a tendency to touch the

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Speaker 3: quarterback that we can talk about and Padres like sm

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Speaker 3: Robin we can talk about. We'll talk about that next second.

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Speaker 3: As we thirt break on the s BBC Covis Crosstalk,

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Speaker 3: I want to I want to leave you guys with

729
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Speaker 3: a question to think about. Over the break, DeMarcus Lawrence

730
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Speaker 3: no longer here, Tomarven Overshowing not on the field, uh,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis left for Jacksonville. Is there are are guys

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Speaker 3: not stepping up as the guys who are supposed to

733
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Speaker 3: communicate and recognize and be the high IQ players at

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Speaker 3: all three levels of the defense. Has there been enough

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Speaker 3: done to replace those guys contributors in terms of IQ recognition.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about that next with Everson Walls here

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Speaker 3: on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross Talk.

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Speaker 1: Back to SWBC Mortgages Dallas Cowboys Cross Talk. Yeah checked

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Speaker 3: Cross Talk on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network, Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: dot Com and all other associated social media platforms. I'm

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Speaker 3: Bobby Belt from one O five through the Fan in Dallas,

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Speaker 3: the radio flagship home of the Cowboys. We got Mickey

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Speaker 3: Spagnola from Dallas Cowboys dot Com with us. Big Jack Black,

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Speaker 3: I also a big SWBC guy, I would assume as

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Speaker 3: well a big fan of that. I would guess. Three

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Speaker 3: times Super Bowl champ, six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton

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Speaker 3: is here with us and our special guest. This evening

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Speaker 3: is as we've been called tonight, the original ball Hawk,

755
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Speaker 3: Everson Walls. Thank you for joining us, Everson, and he's

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Speaker 3: Coach Walls tonight. He's here to or Professor Walls. He's

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Speaker 3: here to to really break it down for us and

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Speaker 3: and let us know where where things are falling. Short

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Speaker 3: before we get into the return of Micah Parsons this

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Speaker 3: Sunday night, and and a situation that you sort of

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Speaker 3: found yourself in when you went to the Giants, you

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Speaker 3: had a homecoming game of somewhere where you had, you know,

763
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Speaker 3: established your career. But I asked before we left, you

764
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Speaker 3: know the big communicators on defense at all three levels

765
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Speaker 3: last year for the cow was a lot of people

766
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Speaker 3: felt like Jordan Lewis and the nickel, Demarven Overshown at linebacker,

767
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Speaker 3: who's who's out with an injury? DeMarcus Lawrence along the

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Speaker 3: defensive line. Those are the guys communicating, talking, really making

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Speaker 3: sure everybody's on top of their game.

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Speaker 2: Was enough done?

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Speaker 3: Do you think to replace the loss of leadership and

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Speaker 3: communication on those levels or was it just no? You

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Speaker 3: know what, players at the end of the day have

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Speaker 3: to be responsible to step up and become those guys.

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Speaker 4: To me, if you're being paid, not just paid, but

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Speaker 4: if you're being paid and you're considered to be someone

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Speaker 4: that they think might contribute on the field. Some of

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00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 4: them they don't think they're gonna play practice players and

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00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 4: things of that nature. But if you've considered one of

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Speaker 4: those guys, I think you just owe it to your

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00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: teammates to step up when it's your time. The Cowboys

782
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: have a history of that. This guy right here, Cliff Harris.

783
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Speaker 4: Guys like that that you never banked on myself, Michael Downs.

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Speaker 4: These are got Dennis Thurmohan. They expected a lot from him,

785
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Speaker 4: but and they got it. All we are. This is

786
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Speaker 4: our culture here, this is what we do. That's why

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Speaker 4: it's unusual for me to be accustomed to guys not

788
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 4: having that next man of mentality. First of all, you

789
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: see it around the pros every day. You have to

790
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Speaker 4: have some guys that I'm not gonna sign a guy

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Speaker 4: if I don't think he can start for me. Even

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Speaker 4: if he's not gonna start, I'm gonna sign him thinking

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Speaker 4: if I had to start this guy, I feel comfortable

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Speaker 4: with this guy. Otherwise, I'm not just gonna sign you

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Speaker 4: to play special teams. I want you to. Yes, you

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Speaker 4: consummer play special teams, but I want you to be

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Speaker 4: able to play for me when it's time. I was

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Speaker 4: accustomed to it growing up. When you go to college,

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Speaker 4: you don't go through that on a scholarship thinking, man,

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Speaker 4: I hope I never start. I hope I never get

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Speaker 4: a chance to play. That's just that's not how you

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Speaker 4: think when you go. When I came to Grambling, my

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00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 4: eventually I'm like I gotta be able to start here.

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Speaker 4: When I came to the Cowboys, I gotta be able

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Speaker 4: to start. When I came to the Giants, I asked Parcells.

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Speaker 4: I said, look, you have to start me. I'm not

807
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Speaker 4: coming off the bench. You have to start me because

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Speaker 4: I can add something to your team. I don't care

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Speaker 4: who you are, you're gonna bring something with you to

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Speaker 4: this team. Otherwise, why am I. I don't think you're

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Speaker 4: gonna be useful for me. If you're not gonna think

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Speaker 4: I'd better be able to start for this team. Just

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Speaker 4: in case Nate Newton goes down, I'm gonna be ready

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Speaker 4: because I've been watching Nate Newton. I've been seeing how

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Speaker 4: he practices, and I say, okay, if Nate don't go,

816
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Speaker 4: if Nate goes down, I'm ready. It's just that's the

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Speaker 4: way it is. I thought that's the way it was.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is not the Sarah cap. And let

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Speaker 2: me let me say this right here.

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Speaker 5: It is a distinct difference in player A and player C.

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Speaker 5: I understand that, yes, But if I'm bringing in players

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Speaker 5: and I, you know, first of all, one, you gotta

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Speaker 5: check the one check mark that I'm praying that we

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Speaker 5: do from this going on? How is his head? Can

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Speaker 5: he comprehend what I want? Can he line up? Because

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Speaker 5: when you're not that great an athlete, the advantage you

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Speaker 5: have is the extra films, study, the extra I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: I maybe ten yards down the field, but I'm in

829
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Speaker 5: this a gap. I'm in this a gap. I'm telling you, coach,

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Speaker 5: I'm downfield. But I promise them.

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Speaker 3: In the a gap.

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Speaker 2: We we got guys.

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Speaker 5: Just running around and I'm forty coaches are telling them

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Speaker 5: not to do that. Forty five thirty one, twenty nine

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Speaker 5: thirty one. These are big plays in big moments, big moments.

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Speaker 2: He forgot sixty five sixty five the guy from a

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Speaker 2: stew You know what, man, y'all laugh, you can laugh.

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Speaker 3: For sixty University of Missouri, right, you can.

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Speaker 5: Laugh, you can laugh at me, But I promise you

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Speaker 5: if I was a dB safety for the Cowboys and

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Speaker 5: they say, man, Nate, that dude scoring on you for

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Speaker 5: sixty five yards, But I say, you know what I

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Speaker 5: was at.

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Speaker 2: Sixty six at least? Yeah? Right, the sixth coach he

845
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: didn't get his deep a meat. I was deeper than him.

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Speaker 2: It was funny. But brother, you will.

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Speaker 5: Not You are challenging the basic things that separate us

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Speaker 5: from college high school in Pop one, it's our ability

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Speaker 5: to think and to play the game that is.

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Speaker 2: That is the check mark I'm looking for now when

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00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: I look at players for the Dallas Cowboys.

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00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 5: I want to I want to know that because you

853
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 5: couldn't play for coach Landry.

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00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: If you blew an assignment, you can be the most talent.

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Speaker 5: Like Wall said, he didn't like my technique, but I

856
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 5: was where I was supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: The coaches admire that. But when you don't give them that,

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Speaker 2: now you forced a hand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, man.

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Speaker 3: Got it. Got about ninety seconds lefter, Michael Parsons does

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Speaker 3: make his return here, probably the biggest return to the

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Speaker 3: Atenz Stadium since is he kill La when he came

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00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: back with the New England Patriots. But you had a

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Speaker 3: big return in nineteen ninety you came back and played

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys after long career. Talk about that game. Did

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Speaker 3: you feel like you had any sort of extra emotions?

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Speaker 3: Did you have to kind of control your emotions? What

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Speaker 3: are some of the things that Michael Persons maybe going

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Speaker 3: through coming in here that the Cowboys might be able

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Speaker 3: to take advantage of it? Whether it's distraction or emotion

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Speaker 3: or anything else.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to be distracted at all.

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Speaker 4: Matter of fact, he might be wound up a little

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Speaker 4: bit more than usual. I remember I came back in

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety and I was playing a familiar position. I

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Speaker 4: was playing cornerback, and I wasn't as hyped. I was

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Speaker 4: very under control, because you know, I had a hell

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Speaker 4: of a squad with me, and what I did was

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Speaker 4: I just did my job. I tried not to overdo that,

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Speaker 4: but I always have to say, and it's got a

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Speaker 4: lot to do with this guy. When we came away

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Speaker 4: from that game in nineteen ninety, we handled them pretty well.

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Speaker 4: We didn't score a lot, but we didn't give up

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Speaker 4: any scores. And I'm geeked up. I'm hype, like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we brought it to him. You guys, thank you for

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Speaker 4: the win. And LT was sitting there very calmly. He said,

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Speaker 4: those guys are gonna be good. I don't forget that.

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Speaker 3: But that day, what was the last play of the

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Speaker 3: second quarter, just for after you remember no interception on

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Speaker 3: Troy when Everson of Walls got it and it returning

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Speaker 3: Everson Walls, thank you for joining US tonight date noon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being here. Has always been spectol. Thank

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Speaker 3: you haranging up with us. I'm Bobby Bell from one

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Speaker 3: O five Man. Thank you for joining us, and we'll

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Speaker 3: talk to you guys again next week on the s

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Speaker 3: WBC Cowboys Crosshack