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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Light, the Just add Water version

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Speaker 1: of One Bill's Live, where we give you instant access

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Speaker 1: to Bill's news, challenge your football knowledge, and ask our

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Speaker 1: one burning question. We'll also speak with former NFL pass

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Speaker 1: rusher for the Cowboys and Broncos to Marcus Ware about

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Speaker 1: what's happened to all the sack artists. It's all coming

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Speaker 1: at you right now. Add a Steve Tasker who has

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Speaker 1: been all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was

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Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you. Steve, Steve

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Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the stratosphere of normalcy. Hello, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Light. On Super Bowl Week Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown along with Steve Tasker. It's the culmination of the

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Speaker 1: NFL season on Sunday. As Steve and I have discussed

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Speaker 1: on our daily show, One Bills Live. It's a premium

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Speaker 1: matchup of quarterback talents, one that we expect won't disappoint. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot riding on this for these two guys

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Speaker 1: individually because of the other guy. If Tom Brady beats

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes at this point in his career, when he's right,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, he'll have his own Hall of Fame. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he'll be an a pantheon all by himself, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean he is. It puts him in a spot and

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Speaker 1: nobody else has gone to Because I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 1: This game, I anticipate will test Tom Brady's ability to

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Speaker 1: At forty three, Mahomes is gonna put pressure on that

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be up to Brady to make it happen. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: of this guy's rear, when he's at like you would

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Speaker 1: think the height. Yeah, Tom Brady is going to be

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Speaker 1: tested for alien blood. Yeah right, because he's gonna he's

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Speaker 1: not of this world. It really isn't. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: say this. There have been too many times where I've

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Speaker 1: had to remind myself in these kinds of spots, don't

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Speaker 1: bet against Tom Brady. Right, how many times have you

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Speaker 1: and where in the aftermath I said, he's thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: Why the hell did I doubt Tom Brady in a

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Speaker 1: spot like that? Because in a big spot, he's as

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Speaker 1: clutch as they come. Now that's not to say people

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Speaker 1: have not gotten the best of him, you know, as

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Speaker 1: we'll get into in the numbers game. But still, more

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Speaker 1: often than not, the guy is clutch. I mean he

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Speaker 1: comes up money in tough spots, tough situations, and as

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Speaker 1: we mentioned on the One Bill's Live show this week, Steve,

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Speaker 1: he emptied his house. Yeah, Giselle and the kids get out.

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Speaker 1: twelve days preparing for the Super Bowl. That's what he

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Speaker 1: did at the Jeter Mansion where he's living this year.

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Speaker 1: He's in the listen, not including this super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: the ones, but the six Super Bowls before that, Brady

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Speaker 1: he won three super Bowls. Yeah, including one that included

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Speaker 1: you know Pat Mahomes all this. Listen, He's going against

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Speaker 1: He's not even close. Let's flip it around, though, Steve,

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Speaker 1: and eleven. Yeah, that's hard to do with those eleven losses, though, Steve,

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Speaker 1: there are just seven quarterbacks who can say they beat

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Speaker 1: here we go. Seven quarterbacks would beat Tom Brady in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, Steve, go Eli Eli is correct? Did it

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Speaker 1: twice obviously in the two Super Bowls. Flacco, Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: going to say, now it's getting thinned. No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: There's a big name out there. Is I haven't said yet? Oh?

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Speaker 1: big name in the in the no longer playing? Oh Rivers?

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Speaker 1: You know not Philip Rivers? In the playoffs AFC guy,

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Speaker 1: he has beaten Tom Brady more than anyone else. He

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Speaker 1: has done it three times in the playoffs. Really, who

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Speaker 1: Peyton Peyton Man three times? Yes, So that's three of

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Speaker 1: Let's say Mark Sanchez, really, good job, Steve can't wait.

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Speaker 1: most recent. Oh who who who they play last year? Oh?

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Speaker 1: It said Bryan Tannahill. Bryan Tannehill is correct? Sis out

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Speaker 1: of seven, Steve, you got one left? All right, give

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Speaker 1: me a give me a division AFC West. Okay, not

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, I got it. I'll be impressed if you

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Speaker 1: get this. Rich Gannon, it is not it's a cannon.

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Speaker 1: And it's gotta be would be ninety eight that done well,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And it's not Elway. Who is that guy? Kubiak?

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Speaker 1: It is not Kubiak. This guy had a nickname, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Jake the Snake. Come on, what's his last Come on, Jake,

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Speaker 1: is also a trades occupation than plumber. Yes, Steve Well

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Speaker 1: was strong. That was strong. And everybody forgets Tannehill last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was even though it happened last year, everybody forgets. Okay, now, Steve,

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Speaker 1: in Part two of the Numbers Game, I'm springing this

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Speaker 1: one on you. This was a late edition. Part two

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Speaker 1: of our Numbers Game deals with wild card teams that

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Speaker 1: For the ron out, they're new ones. The Giants were

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Speaker 1: and eleven beat Pittsburgh thirty one twenty five, two to go, Steve, Wow,

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Speaker 1: best numbers game showing for one seven a tasker that

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Speaker 1: Here this is how about Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore Ravens is correct.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and one, beat the Giants thirty four seven.

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Speaker 1: Raiders nineteen eighty one? I know, but Roncos ninety eight

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Speaker 1: between these two teams that you've guessed are at Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's between the two thousand and one Baltimore Ravens. And

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Speaker 1: I just came to the asking of Baltimore Ravens. No,

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Speaker 1: get like the running quarterbacks at RAM. Majority of other

424
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Speaker 1: time that was like the RG three's, then Michael Vicks

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Speaker 1: in the world. But now it's like these dudes are

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Speaker 1: coming together. Now you have the Russell Wilsons that can

427
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Speaker 1: run the football, but they don't want to. They're gonna

428
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Speaker 1: string plays out, but they can throw that football. The

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Speaker 1: Aaron rod Jos right, the Allen's like you know it's

430
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Speaker 1: I remember coming to a game up there in Buffalo

431
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Speaker 1: and commentating one of the games. I was like, that

432
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Speaker 1: dude is fast. Like I was surprised to see. It

433
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter anymore when it comes to especially young guys

434
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Speaker 1: come in. All of them have speed. You don't see

435
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Speaker 1: one quarterback that's coming in the league now that does

436
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Speaker 1: not have speed that they can run. But they also

437
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Speaker 1: can throw the football now, and so they're adding both

438
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Speaker 1: of those things together and you get the ultimate quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I know, DeMarcus, we're running short on time here because

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Speaker 1: you got a busy day, so I don't want to

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Speaker 1: let you go without giving you a chance to just

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Speaker 1: talk about this fitness app you got going on Driven

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Speaker 1: to Win or d TWOW for short. Is this like you?

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Speaker 1: Is this like having a personal trainer, like right on

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Speaker 1: your phone? I mean, tell me how this works. Yeah,

446
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: it's like having the ultimate personal trainer running your pocket.

447
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: I build software all my life and people that know

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Speaker 1: that when I played football. But now I get an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to build this awesome augmented reality fitness where if

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Speaker 1: you're at home, sitting at home, you can prop your

451
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: phone up and they'll project me right there in front

452
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Speaker 1: of you and show you how to do the exercises,

453
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Speaker 1: or if you're in the gym, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: take it to another level, give you that true experience,

455
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Speaker 1: that million dollar experience and that I got for when

456
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Speaker 1: I played. Give you that technology, but also give you

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Speaker 1: the methodology on how to do it. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of people say, hey, de Marcus, I can't lift like you.

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Speaker 1: That's not the point. I want for you to have

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Speaker 1: the ultimate motivator. Where I was capping for twelve years

461
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Speaker 1: for the Denver Broncos and Dallas Cowboys. Add both of

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Speaker 1: those two together and now you have somebody pushing you

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Speaker 1: to build the best you even if you're at home

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Speaker 1: I got at home workouts in there. They are pretty

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Speaker 1: challenging because I want to make sure your challenge, but

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Speaker 1: also the gym workouts too as well. Once the gym's

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Speaker 1: open mec up during the pandemic and I'm just trying

468
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Speaker 1: to create change, not from inside of just the stadium anymore,

469
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Speaker 1: but outside of the stadium in the weight room and

470
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Speaker 1: leads you to awesome fitter life. So are you are

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Speaker 1: you almost like a hologram in the room with the

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Speaker 1: guy Like is that what it's? Yeah? Look, the app

473
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: is free. You just go to the app store type

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Speaker 1: in D two W or Driven to Win and you

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Speaker 1: will see that once you just project your phone right here. Boom,

476
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: it is right there in front of you telling you

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Speaker 1: your tempos, how much weight because you have to go

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Speaker 1: through like a questionnaire. And it grows with you too

479
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Speaker 1: because it has machine learning. So with the machine learning,

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Speaker 1: like yeah, you might start off with five pounds, it'll

481
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Speaker 1: tell you, okay, well if you need this much rest,

482
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Speaker 1: you need to use this much weight, and you need

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Speaker 1: to do it at this tempo. So it has someone

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Speaker 1: that's there with you, so it's not intimidating anymore to

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Speaker 1: get out there and start working. Wow, congratulates. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on with us, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: inviting me on. All right, good conversation there with DeMarcus.

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Speaker 1: We're always trying to bring you the best and the

489
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Speaker 1: brightest from the NFL world here on One Bill's Light.

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Speaker 1: Steve I asked DeMarcus, Well, I didn't really get to

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Speaker 1: ask him, but we discussed on One Bills Live. I

492
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Speaker 1: know about how there aren't a whole lot of guys

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Speaker 1: that rack up twenty sacks seasons. They've only been eleven

494
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Speaker 1: or twelve I think was the number we came up with.

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Speaker 1: And you look at double digit sack leaders and the

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Speaker 1: number was down from fifteen in twenty nineteen, double digit

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Speaker 1: guys with double digit sacks fifteen players in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: only ten this past season. How much do you attribute

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Speaker 1: the lack of an off season for defensive players to

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Speaker 1: practice and even play in preseason games at game speed

501
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Speaker 1: to get ready for this season. Do you think that

502
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Speaker 1: had an impact on the number of double digit sack

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Speaker 1: guys in the league. I think it was a small impact.

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Speaker 1: I think the big impact is the style of offenses

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Speaker 1: NFL teams run these days, get it out quick, get

506
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Speaker 1: it out quick and timing routes and spread the defenses thinner,

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Speaker 1: the bigger the windows. They're spreading the field all They're

508
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Speaker 1: spreading the field sideline to sideline, from the Linus scrimmage

509
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Speaker 1: all the way to the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: They're stretching at every time, and quarterbacks are getting better

511
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Speaker 1: and better, and offensive coordinators are getting better better at

512
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Speaker 1: giving quarterbacks options fast, and I think that has more

513
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Speaker 1: to do with it. I think it's just more difficult

514
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Speaker 1: to sack the guys now because of the coordinators giving

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Speaker 1: them options very quick and getting the ball out now.

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Speaker 1: Shack Barrett had nineteen sacks two years ago, came really

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Speaker 1: close to getting twenty. I wonder if we have a

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Speaker 1: stretch here where we don't see a twenty sack guy

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Speaker 1: for some time. Yeah, I think so. I think he might.

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Speaker 1: I think the game will have to evolve a little

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Speaker 1: further offensively and maybe swing back towards the middle of

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Speaker 1: the road. I think when the quarterbacks are able to

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Speaker 1: you know, when they're smart enough to make good decision.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to get there. But I think until the

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Speaker 1: league gets away from being so pass happy, if indeed

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Speaker 1: they ever do, Yeah, you're not going to see a

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Speaker 1: twenty sack guy. Not to mention the fact that more

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league are mobile than ever, and every

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Speaker 1: one of them that are come in to a large

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Speaker 1: degree or mobile. I know Mac Jones from Alabama is

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Speaker 1: more of a pocket guy. But the vast majority, I

532
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Speaker 1: mean Trevor Lawrence justin fields, I mean, the vast majority

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that come into the league can all move around.

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Speaker 1: You heard DeMarcus say it in the interview. He said,

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Speaker 1: you know, he said, the guy that Patrick Mahomes reminds

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Speaker 1: him of the most that's just a headache to run

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Speaker 1: around and chase all day was Michael Vick. How many

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Speaker 1: Michael Vicks were in the league ten fifteen years ago,

539
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Speaker 1: like three maybe, I mean nobody was like Vic, but

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Speaker 1: mobile guys three or four. Think about this too. Now

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Speaker 1: there's like twelve. Think about this too. If a team

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Speaker 1: does get a lot of sacks, it's it's a team thing,

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Speaker 1: like Pittsburgh Steelers did this year and other teams who

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Speaker 1: put pressure on It's rare that an offense doesn't have

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Speaker 1: an answer for a guy a JJ Watt back in

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Speaker 1: the early two thousand teens. In thirteen fourteen. When JJ

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Speaker 1: Watt was crushing teams, teams didn't have an answer for

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Speaker 1: him because he was so hard to match upman. Now

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Speaker 1: teams he kind of have answers for those guys. They'll

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Speaker 1: they'll keep a guy in, they'll double team the guy,

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Speaker 1: they'll find him wherever he is, and the quarterbacks are

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00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: better at getting two hats on him. That kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: If you're getting pressure now, they're still gonna get get

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Speaker 1: teams with that get sacks, but they're gonna do it

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Speaker 1: with this guy will have eight, this guy will have seven,

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00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: this guy will have ten, this guy will have nine.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, don't you don't have one

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Speaker 1: guy that gets twenty. You'll still have teams that get pressure,

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Speaker 1: but it'll be spread out and they'll do it with

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Speaker 1: by fooling the quarterback into a bad protection and they'll

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Speaker 1: bring a guy out of the secondary. They won't have

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Speaker 1: one guy that's like an Aaron Donald who's gonna get

563
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Speaker 1: like he's the last guy to have. He sacks Josh

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Speaker 1: four times this last year. They had struggled with him.

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Speaker 1: But and that's with it. Josh a guy who's running around,

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Speaker 1: running around. Yeah, he's there's still guys out there. But

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Speaker 1: when you see a guy do that. Teams just say listen,

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Speaker 1: everything starts worth where ninety nine is for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: So with that in mind, Steve, we go to our

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Speaker 1: one burning question. Do you believe it is reasonable to

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Speaker 1: assume that Buffalo's sack production, which finished fifteenth in the

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Speaker 1: league in twenty twenty with thirty eight sacks, will rebound

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one if there is a regular off season.

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Speaker 1: In preseason, I know you said it was a small

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Speaker 1: impact on the year this year. Or do you believe

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Speaker 1: they need to get a quality pass rusher off the

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Speaker 1: edge to improve the production? And the reason I asked

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Speaker 1: that is because it seemed readily apparent in the season

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Speaker 1: rap of press conference by Sean McDermott. He said, we

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Speaker 1: have to get back to our core philosophy defensively, which

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Speaker 1: is getting pressure with our front four. This year, Leslie Frasier,

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Speaker 1: as you know, Steve, he had to dial up a

583
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Speaker 1: ton of blitz packages where often it was DB's coming

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Speaker 1: off the edge because they could get to the quarterback

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Speaker 1: faster based on speed and coming free. Extra men had

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Speaker 1: to get there. They couldn't do it with the front

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Speaker 1: four this year. Do they need a quality pass rusher

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Speaker 1: off the edge to improve the production? Yes, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think you get better with better players, and you

590
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: need guys that can win, not that can win all

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Speaker 1: the time against a one on one matchup, and it

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Speaker 1: better be a one point five to a two matchup.

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Speaker 1: Where a guy gets chipped, then you got a chance

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Speaker 1: maybe to get a handle on him as an offensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: If you don't chip that guy, that tackle is not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to hold up long enough for

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Speaker 1: you to throw the football. And certainly if it's a

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Speaker 1: double team, you know the guys you got a chance

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Speaker 1: against the guy all day that you got to have

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Speaker 1: some guys like that, and I don't think the Bills

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Speaker 1: have enough of those guys to go around. And I

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Speaker 1: think you need somebody on the other side of Jerry Hughes.

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Speaker 1: And Jerry Hughes cannot continue to be the focus of

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Speaker 1: the pass protection for your opponents all the time because

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00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: they're neutralizing him far too often. Maybe if you get

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Speaker 1: him some help, maybe if you know Ed Oliver takes

607
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: another step forward this year. But you yeah, good players

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00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: make you better. Great players make you better, and the

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00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: Bills certainly need that upfront with their core philosophy of defense,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. The problem here is they

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Speaker 1: are heavily invested across the board on the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: with Mario Addison who next year carries a cap figure

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Speaker 1: of ten point one, Jerry Hughes cap figure of nine

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00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: four five, Quentin Jefferson cap figure of eight even Vernon Butler,

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00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: Steve cap figure of seven point eight million, and then

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Speaker 1: Star Lotula comes back after opting out last year cap

617
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: figure of seven point six. I mean, these are five

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Speaker 1: guys in the top twelve on the team in cap figure.

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Speaker 1: How in the world, even at a discounted price in

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Speaker 1: what's expected to be a buyer's market due to a

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Speaker 1: restrictive cap do they add at the position without subtracting?

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Speaker 1: They probably have to make a subtraction somewhere right, maybe two,

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Speaker 1: And that's already with Trent Murphy coming off the books.

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Speaker 1: Or do you invest in a high dres choice to

625
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Speaker 1: fix that and get somebody on a cheap rookie deal.

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Speaker 1: But now you're counting on an awful lot. Well, you

627
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: already did that, already did that. You just did it.

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Speaker 1: You did it the year before. Not a speed off

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Speaker 1: the edge guy. No, but you did it the year

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Speaker 1: before as well with that Oliver. Yeah, there's two drafts

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Speaker 1: in a row. You try to do that. And I'll

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Speaker 1: say this, if they can find a combination of four

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Speaker 1: guys who can get quick pressure consistently every single game,

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Speaker 1: there may be no stop on this team. That's why

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00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: it's so hard to do. That's that is the deal

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Speaker 1: breaker for offenses around the NFL. Four guys pressure right

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Speaker 1: now on the quarterback without a fifth guy rushing, and

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Speaker 1: do it consistently. If you can do that, your defense

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Speaker 1: the league without anything else, Without anything else. So if

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Speaker 1: you can do that, do it. Do it. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know that you've got enough guys on the roster

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Speaker 1: now to get that done consistently. And those guys don't

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Speaker 1: fall off trees you I mean, well they might this offseason,

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Speaker 1: right So, but to be able to sign those guys,

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Speaker 1: you might have to subtract. You might have to subtract,

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Speaker 1: and you might have to say in your gut, without

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Speaker 1: or having him on your team, this isn't a guy

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Speaker 1: that you're automatically gonna say, yeah, I remember this guy.

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Speaker 1: I know that guy. I know that guy. Let's bring

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Speaker 1: him in. Let's do that. These guys are gonna like, well,

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Speaker 1: we see him on film, the film, don't lie. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it. We're gonna trade the guy we know and

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Speaker 1: has contributed for a year, two years, four year, whatever

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be. We're gonna trade him for a guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's hard, that's hard to do, and it's high risk.

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Speaker 1: It's high risk, and you got to find a guy

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Speaker 1: that's willing to do it. So and we we've had

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Speaker 1: this conversation earlier than on One Bill's Life, JJ Watt,

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Speaker 1: Can you get him for seven and a half? Can

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Speaker 1: you get him on a one year deal or whatever deal?

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Speaker 1: Can you afford JJ Watt to come in here? Because

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Speaker 1: because now you've got a culture that is attractive to

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Speaker 1: outside eyes, guys lead here and they rave about what

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Speaker 1: it's like to be a Buffalo Bill. They rave about

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Speaker 1: the program, they rave about the coach, they rave about

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Speaker 1: the players, they rave about the locker room. It's a

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Speaker 1: great place to play and it's a weird year. Are

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Speaker 1: you willing to sign a one year, two year deal?

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Speaker 1: Probably for the right money, or maybe a two year

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Speaker 1: deal if it's the right thing. But yeah, are you

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Speaker 1: sitting in a spot where you can lure a guy

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Speaker 1: like that to come in and be one of those guys?

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Speaker 1: You need four of them. This conversation almost leads me

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Speaker 1: to believe that in a year or two, much like

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Speaker 1: the term committee backfield kind of came into came into popularity,

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Speaker 1: and because of what teams we're doing at that position,

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Speaker 1: we may have a committee pass rush before all, Tom,

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Speaker 1: But if you have a committee pass rush, it's okay

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Speaker 1: if it's if it works, but you only rush forward

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Speaker 1: if you have to start rushing five on the committee

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Speaker 1: and six on the committee. It ain't gonna work. Too

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Speaker 1: many cooks in the kitchen then, and here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: to enough people covering. They have been very committed to

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Speaker 1: the rotation of those eight guys. Four guys in, four

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Speaker 1: guys out, and then here we go two guys in,

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Speaker 1: two guys out, two more guys into. You know, they

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Speaker 1: run eight guys to the rotation in order to get

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Speaker 1: a pass rust like they're talking about, they may only

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Speaker 1: have four guys they can count on, pay those guys

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Speaker 1: the money for the eight and then pray and then

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Speaker 1: the other four guys can just be throw in pace

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Speaker 1: them properly with the reserve guys. Can you do that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you can. And that's that's the great conundrum of this office.

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Speaker 1: And then do they stay healthy well? And that's the

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Speaker 1: other thing, because if you're playing them more, the odds

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Speaker 1: go up that they're not going to stay healthy for

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Speaker 1: sixteen games. It's it's really a fascinating riddle that Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean and Sean McDermott are going to need to solve

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Speaker 1: this off season. That's all the time we have for

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Speaker 1: this episode of One Bill's Light. We remind you to

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