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Speaker 1: got some steals, making some deals. Welcome into the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings podcast I'm yourst Tatum evert alongside our usual cast

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Speaker 1: In the House, I don't know. That was like a

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429
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Speaker 1: end of the season, which was this is not a teardown,

430
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Speaker 1: this is not a full rebuild. This is a reload,

431
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Speaker 1: and they're making moves whether it's you know, contract wise, financially,

432
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Speaker 1: whatever they're doing. The things that they've said is we

433
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Speaker 1: want to retain these top tier people that we currently

434
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Speaker 1: have on the roster. We want to keep the people

435
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Speaker 1: that have definitely produced over the last few seasons, and

436
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Speaker 1: then try to find people to aunt positions that we

437
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: feel like we've got some deficits in. And it's always

438
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Speaker 1: hard to do that, especially when you have a brand

439
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Speaker 1: new coaching staff come in. Essentially they've got their own

440
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: people and connections that they've had from before. We're starting

441
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Speaker 1: to see some of that pop in here, especially in

442
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Speaker 1: the last week with free agency starting, and you know,

443
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Speaker 1: free agency is still going on. It's going to be

444
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Speaker 1: going on for a while. I just the thing for

445
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 1: me is it's it is more proof that what they've

446
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Speaker 1: been saying from the beginning, from the beginning of these

447
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: hirings with Quacy and with Kevin is basically coming to

448
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: fruition right in front of our eyes here. Yeah, we

449
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Speaker 1: should note that we are recording at eleven thirty five

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Speaker 1: am on Friday, March eighteenth, so that in case anything

451
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Speaker 1: breaks at the end of the day or over the weekend,

452
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Speaker 1: don't add us that would never happen. But I will

453
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Speaker 1: say we are going to have a Pick six on Tuesday,

454
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Speaker 1: so we will field all of your questions and hopefully,

455
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Speaker 1: you know, you give us some good ones to discuss

456
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Speaker 1: on that show on Tuesday, so we'll kind of catch

457
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Speaker 1: you guys up on that as well. But I think

458
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Speaker 1: this is a good time to bring in our podcast

459
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Speaker 1: guests for this week. We had a wonderful time as

460
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Speaker 1: you already heard, speaking with new Vikings linebacker Jordan Hicks.

461
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Speaker 1: So let's just get right into it. Let's give a

462
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Speaker 1: big warm MVP. Welcome to one of the newest Vikings

463
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl winning linebacker. I know, right, give um

464
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Speaker 1: ROUNDO applause. Jordan Hicks, thank you for being here on

465
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Speaker 1: the podcast. Yeah, thank you for having me. I know,

466
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Speaker 1: we were just talking about how you've kind of gone

467
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Speaker 1: through this whole media day and with your newfound friend

468
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Speaker 1: Harrison and how much energy that's really added to everything.

469
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Speaker 1: And I really liked what you said in the press

470
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Speaker 1: conference about how it's made you really reflect on your

471
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Speaker 1: journey here. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's in such a different

472
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Speaker 1: phase of life right in terms of you know, unmarried

473
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Speaker 1: with no kids and first big contract and it's you know,

474
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Speaker 1: as a player, that is what you go for, right,

475
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Speaker 1: That that second contract is the is the big milestone

476
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Speaker 1: that everybody's working for. So you know, it helps me

477
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Speaker 1: reflect back on when I was in that moment and

478
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Speaker 1: and you know the emotion that's attached with it, the um,

479
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: you know, just the life changing time that that is. Um,

480
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Speaker 1: it's exciting, you know, and and you don't take it

481
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Speaker 1: for granted. UM. You think about those moments and you

482
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Speaker 1: realize how far you've come and how how much you've

483
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Speaker 1: been able to accomplish. And you know, his his journeys

484
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Speaker 1: is just beginning, and um, it's exciting, exciting to have

485
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Speaker 1: him along. So what is the third contract? Like, right,

486
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Speaker 1: we're talking about Harrison getting the second You're you're now

487
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Speaker 1: in your third contract. So it's about winning, about winning, right, Um.

488
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Speaker 1: You know I've I've won the Super Bowl. Um, there's

489
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Speaker 1: no feeling like it. And and that is the mission, right,

490
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Speaker 1: The mission is to win. And and you know I've

491
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Speaker 1: I've won a lot of games. I've I've been able

492
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Speaker 1: to be a part of some really good teams. And

493
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Speaker 1: you only, like I said in the press conference, you

494
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Speaker 1: only have fun in this game when you win to

495
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: to come in, you know, and put so much work

496
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Speaker 1: into what you do, into your craft, into into trying

497
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Speaker 1: to get those wins, and uh and coming up short

498
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: week after week after week. It is it is not fun, right, So, uh,

499
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Speaker 1: you know the process is a good time, but winning

500
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Speaker 1: games is the best time. How much about this decision though?

501
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Speaker 1: I mean as much as winning is on the forefront,

502
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: was about the people that are here now? Because I

503
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: know a lot of these Vikings fans may not no management,

504
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: they're just getting to know them. What was that courting

505
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: process like for you when you were dealing with all

506
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: the new faces that we're not being introduced to as well? Right, Yeah,

507
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: it's uh, it was a process, right. You try to

508
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: figure out as much as you possibly can, um and

509
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: as short amount of time as you have, right, And

510
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's all being compiled on you at once.

511
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Speaker 1: And um. When you hear the message of these coaches,

512
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: when you hear the direction that they want to take it, um,

513
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: you know it's a no brainer. Right. You hear the

514
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: young energetic um and see the young energetic faces and

515
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: hear the words and and see the vision, and it's

516
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Speaker 1: it's a it's fun I know people talk about four

517
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: three three four defense. I think that the big thing

518
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: for a middle linebacker is it's like, Okay, now two

519
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: of us can be on the field at the same time.

520
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: So now that you get the chance to play with

521
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Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks, you played with Michael Kendricks before in Philly,

522
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Speaker 1: what is that dynamic? Like is Eric? Did you know

523
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Speaker 1: anything about Eric before playing with his brother or after?

524
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Speaker 1: So we played Texas played UCLA in college our senior years,

525
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: and uh, all right, it might have been my senior

526
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Speaker 1: year in his junior ye. I don't know when he

527
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: came out, but I think we came out the same year. Um,

528
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Speaker 1: so that was the first time I'd heard about him

529
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Speaker 1: my senior year in college. And um, after that moment,

530
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Speaker 1: I start tracking him and then playing with his brother

531
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Speaker 1: and seeing him you know here and there and in

532
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: the football world small, Um you see him around you know,

533
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: super Bowl events or whatever it might be, and uh,

534
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: playing against him, and I've always admired his game and

535
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: he's he's a hell of a football player. And uh,

536
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Speaker 1: you know, when when I was making the decision to

537
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: come here, right the obviously the thought goes in your mind,

538
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: like man to get to play next to him, would

539
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: be would be awesome, and so, uh, it was definitely

540
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: part of the decision. Yeah, the game seems very cerebral

541
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: for me when you listen to you talk about it,

542
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: even from the high school level. It sounds like, but

543
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: how has maybe your game elevated throughout your years in

544
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: the league, and how do you plan on you know,

545
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: in parting that wisdom on these young guys on the team.

546
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: With experience comes comes wisdom, right, and you you get

547
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: to see things differently. You know, what I see is

548
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: completely different from what I saw when I was a rookie.

549
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: You know, the game slowed down tremendously. You get running

550
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: back tales or offensive linement tells, or wide receiver split

551
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: tales or formation tales based on you know, what you

552
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: see in film studies. So you mature, you grow, and

553
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: and you learn and um, you know that's what I've

554
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: been able to do over these past few years. Allowed

555
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: the game to slow down angles gotten better. I've forfined

556
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: my game in certain ways and got certain techniques up

557
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: my sleeve that I like to use quite a bit.

558
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: So you just learn yourself. You learn yourself. You learn

559
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: what you see. You learn to trust your eyes and

560
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: and mature five star recruit coming out of Ohio, number

561
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: one outside linebreaker in the country coming out of high school.

562
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: You get to Texas, I think you got an injury

563
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: your first couple of years, and then towards the back

564
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: end you started making plays. Is there or was there

565
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: pressure trying to live up to that hype of being

566
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: that five star recruit and making it to the NFL

567
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: and trying to, I guess prove people right Texas, I

568
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean that definitely was pressure. Um, without

569
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: without question, there was there was pressure. I was under

570
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: the mindset when I first got into college that I

571
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: had to be a two hundred and forty five six

572
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 1: two six two linebacker that was a head thumper, and

573
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, was was a gafter a gap right. That

574
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: wasn't my game, you know. And I tried to I

575
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: think I tried to push and tried to be somebody

576
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: that you know, I wasn't necessarily um and you know,

577
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm I waited too thirty. I've been to thirty the

578
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: last four or five years, right, And and that's that's

579
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: my playing with And uh, you know, to think of

580
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: me at two forty five is disgusting, like I would

581
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: not ever want to be that heavy rug and man,

582
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: my hips, my legs hurt, my shoulders hurt, everything hurt.

583
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, no, I there was definitely pressure. So

584
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: so when did it click for you that like, Okay,

585
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: this is how I play well, this is what I do,

586
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: this is how I like to feel to be at

587
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: the best at what I do. It. When was that

588
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: trialing error? Man? It uh? Well, weight wise, you know,

589
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: I I thought two thirty eight to two thirty five

590
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: was a happy medium, and I was still getting injured.

591
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: Came in the NFL at two thirty five, was still

592
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: getting injured, and I was like, man, let me just

593
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: let me just get to a place where I'm comfortable,

594
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: where I can run fast, where I can move well

595
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: and still be powerful and my body. I had a

596
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: year at two thirty, you know, fluctuating into the two

597
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: twenties even at times, and you know I was playing

598
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: my best ball, and so you know that it was

599
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: at that moment. It takes time. It's trial and error,

600
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: and nobody can tell you what that is other than you.

601
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I was I was going right to

602
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: where you were headed, Gabe. Where it comes down to

603
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: You were talking about staying healthy, and you've been very

604
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: consistent in your starts. You really haven't suffered a lot

605
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: from injuries lately. So what all exactly, like, what is

606
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing you do or the most valuable thing

607
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: you've learned about how to take care of yourself. It's

608
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: not even close. It's needles, needles, needles. I do dry

609
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: needling two times a week and probably get five hundred

610
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: different insertion points at a time. I mean, how long

611
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: does that normally takes? Like three and a half hour sessions?

612
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: My goodness, but it's thorough. And you know the one

613
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: thing with needles, you know, you can get massage, you

614
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: can do all that, and I think that that stuff

615
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: definitely has a place. I do that as well. But

616
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: when a needle goes into the tissue and it jumps

617
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: and it contracts and releases, right, it's instantly, you know,

618
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: instantly loosened up. And I I haven't found anything else

619
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: that has been able to accomplish that. So if you can,

620
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: if anybody knows, let me know. What about what about

621
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: the diet thought? I mean is there? You are? You

622
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: very health conscious? So I've been on a diet since

623
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: I got into on a diet. But I've been I've

624
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: been watching what I eat is trying to stay smooth.

625
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 1: Right for uh, since I got into the league, right,

626
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: everybody talks about nutrition. Um, I feel like this game

627
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: is so physical and so brutal. And the linebacker position

628
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: there's so many different torque and twists and things you

629
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: gotta do put your body and compromise positions. Um that

630
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: you can't you know, yes, I can. I can eat

631
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: as many greens and as much protein as possible. But

632
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: when your your peck or your hamstring is tight, something's

633
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: gotta Yeah, that's not gonna fix it. And so I

634
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: and there's a good selection of ice cream in the cafeteria.

635
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: But you say what you were saying right now about

636
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, recovery. Hell, I mean recovery it's more important

637
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: than being out there on the field. And Eric Kendricks

638
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: said a lot about that earlier this year when it's

639
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: talking about he was like, dude, massages don't feel good.

640
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: He was like, I mean the normal person gets aside

641
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: just to like relieve stress. He said, he hates getting

642
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Speaker 1: on that table to get him aside. Yeah, why is

643
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Speaker 1: that for you? You know, the benefit, and you know,

644
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Speaker 1: you know you're willing to go through it. The sacrifice

645
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Speaker 1: is worth it to be able to go out there

646
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Speaker 1: on Sunday and um, you know, to be able to

647
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Speaker 1: perform at your best. So I know when you were

648
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Speaker 1: in Philly your nickname was Simba. Right, Lion King is

649
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Speaker 1: one of everybody's favorite movies. But I know you suffered

650
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Speaker 1: through a lot of injuries. And there's a there's a

651
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Speaker 1: quote from from Lion King and it says, hey, it's

652
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Speaker 1: in the past. You can either run from your past

653
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Speaker 1: or learn from it. However, you learn from those injuries.

654
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Speaker 1: What if those injuries taught you that's got you to

655
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Speaker 1: this point. Yes, that's that's deep because there's a lot

656
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Speaker 1: that those things have taught me. M even dating back

657
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Speaker 1: to college. I mean, you you learn how to handle

658
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: adversity right, first and foremost, probably the most isolated feeling

659
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: for an athlete is being hurt. Right, So you you

660
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Speaker 1: you go, now you're you go from every meeting, every practice,

661
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: every workout, every game to nothing other than rehab. Right,

662
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Speaker 1: and when you're on ir your rehab hours or you know,

663
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Speaker 1: come in at nine, out at by eleven, and so

664
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Speaker 1: you're you're not around the team. The camaraderie's not there,

665
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: and you, nine times out of ten isolate yourself. And

666
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Speaker 1: then those start, those thoughts start to creep in of

667
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Speaker 1: like hey, you know, damn man, am I Am I

668
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Speaker 1: worth it? Like what am I doing? Like do they

669
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Speaker 1: still want me on the team? Do they? You know,

670
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: like these little little negative thoughts start creeping in. And

671
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: so first and foremost is mental toughness, mental strength, how

672
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Speaker 1: to handle adversity in those type of thoughts. Um. Secondly

673
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Speaker 1: is what we're talking about exactly, is how important it

674
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Speaker 1: is to be out there on the field. Right. Um,

675
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Speaker 1: you know, my early history and into college was was

676
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: all injuries and it was that was that was the

677
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: you know Jordan Hicks, great linebacker, but injury prone, right,

678
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: big great flag, big red flag at all times. And

679
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: it and it stuck with me for a long time

680
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Speaker 1: and it took a lot of uh intentional you know,

681
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Speaker 1: intentionality to to to get people out there and to

682
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Speaker 1: find what works for me and to listen to my

683
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Speaker 1: body and um, you know, it's it's a process, but uh,

684
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Speaker 1: you learn that that you can't do anything from the

685
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: sideline and being out there is the most important thing.

686
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Speaker 1: It sounds like, I mean, it's such an it's fascinating. Honestly,

687
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Speaker 1: they listen to you talk about that in the journey here.

688
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Speaker 1: So going through all of that, like today Minnesota vikings

689
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Speaker 1: this new opportunity, like putting it all together and putting

690
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Speaker 1: a ball on top of it. What has that been like?

691
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Speaker 1: It's been awesome because you know, there are times you

692
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Speaker 1: look back at the journey and it is like, how

693
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Speaker 1: in the world did I get here? Right? And um,

694
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a firm believer in my faith, and uh,

695
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Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't have did it on my own.

696
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Speaker 1: And there's so much any people that have had influence

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Speaker 1: on me and have pushed me along, and I believe,

698
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Speaker 1: you know, there's a bigger plan upstairs. That's that I'm

699
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: on and you know for me to have don't let

700
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: me scare you guys. I got two Achilles ruptures, a

701
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Speaker 1: peck rupture. You know, I've torn my growing off the bone.

702
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: I had, you know, broken hand feet. It's like you

703
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: hear about these type of injuries and guys lose careers

704
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: over these things, and it's you know, and and to

705
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Speaker 1: have these injuries and to still have an opportunity and

706
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: to still have people to believe in you and still

707
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Speaker 1: put on film that you know allows you know, guys

708
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: like this to get excited and and teams to get excited.

709
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Speaker 1: And um, you know, be in this position, you learn,

710
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Speaker 1: you learn in it and it and it's humbling and

711
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Speaker 1: it gives you an opportunity. And so uh, my responsibility

712
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Speaker 1: is to continue that, to continue to put that type

713
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Speaker 1: of film on on on tape, add to this team

714
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: and then also pouring to the young guys so hopefully

715
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Speaker 1: they don't they don't have to go through that bad

716
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Speaker 1: All right, Um, I got three names I'm gonna throw

717
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Speaker 1: at you, and I mean the first thing that comes

718
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Speaker 1: to mind when I give one by one, all right, Avan,

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Speaker 1: my son, my man, many Me, Luca full of energy,

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Speaker 1: my guy, and your daughter t Leiah sweet. She's precious girl.

721
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Speaker 1: Being a girl dad changes precious, bro. How they being

722
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Speaker 1: the girl dad changed you too. I don't got two boys,

723
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Speaker 1: and like I don't know, like instantly with the with

724
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Speaker 1: the boys, Like when I first held him, I looked

725
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Speaker 1: at him and I was like, it's my guy, you

726
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we're gonna, we're gonna do

727
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Speaker 1: some stuff. And it took some time for me to

728
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Speaker 1: look at him and be like, oh, like, you know,

729
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Speaker 1: I love this little guy. You know. But when she

730
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Speaker 1: came out and she was in my arms the first time,

731
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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna protect you, I'm anything. It's

732
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Speaker 1: like it's just a different it's a completely different feeling

733
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Speaker 1: and it's hard to explain, um, but you know it's it's. Uh,

734
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Speaker 1: that's a beautiful family, man. I love I'm so blessed

735
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Speaker 1: out my guys. And he's got three fur babies too.

736
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Speaker 1: I've got three. I've got three fur babies. Yeah, I

737
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Speaker 1: love that. I mean I know that that's something that

738
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Speaker 1: you and your wife have taken a liking to too.

739
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: Is like the adoption rescue work down in with in

740
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Speaker 1: Arizona previously, Yes, so we did. We did some work

741
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: in Arizona. We did some work in Austin. We've got

742
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Speaker 1: a passion for um, you know, especially you know what.

743
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: We partnered with an adoption agency and during COVID when

744
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Speaker 1: uh these dogs were just getting getting pushed in there,

745
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, had a great successful um a

746
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: week we sponsored every family that would come in and

747
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Speaker 1: adopt a dog or a cat and had awesome turnout.

748
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: But um, yes, it passionate, you know, on our hearts

749
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Speaker 1: and it's exciting, exciting to help. We're pretty dog friendly franchise.

750
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Speaker 1: I would say yes, like the Vikings community is going

751
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: to love you awesome and this is this is a

752
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: very like I've been here for two years, Tatum has

753
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: been here almost a year now and you you will

754
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: love this. But I think in return, what are Vikings

755
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 1: fans getting from the football player? We talked about the person,

756
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: but from the football player Jordan Hicks, what are they

757
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: getting from? Yeah? Well, first of foremost I think leadership. Um,

758
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: you know again, I think you can tell that I've

759
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: been through some stuff. I've got a story to tell,

760
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: and uh, I enjoy pouring into guys that um, you

761
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: know I want to learn and that that I feel

762
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: like I can help. Um. But then you know, out

763
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: there on the field, I think it's physicality. It's siline

764
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Speaker 1: and siline RANGI m seeing things before things are happening, um,

765
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, anticipation and then ultimately what this game's about

766
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: is playmaking. Right when a play, when it plays, there

767
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: to be made that you're expected to make it and

768
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: I pride myself in that. Well, thank you so much

769
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Speaker 1: for sharing some time with all of the fans that

770
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Speaker 1: are listening to the Minnesota Vikings podcast right now. Jordan Hicks,

771
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: welcome to Minnesota. Thank you for having a big thank

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Speaker 1: you to Jordan Hicks for joining the podcast. Especially. I

773
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: know they sit there in the press conference, they talk

774
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes answering questions, and they're kind enough to

775
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: come right in here and talk to us right afterwards

776
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: and continue the conversations. Could get to know him just

777
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: a little bit better. They're both of them, both Harrison

778
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: and Jordan, were just more than gracious with their time

779
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: and the fact that they were relaxed too. And I'm like, dude,

780
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: like you you're really you guys are really going through

781
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Speaker 1: the car washing. Just signed a contract. I mean, if

782
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: I've signed a contract like that, I'd be pretty relaxed too. Yeah,

783
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: there's the enjoyment in the in the the the work

784
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Speaker 1: starts tomorrow, healthy glow of knowing you just signed your

785
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: your contract and you get get you know, a new

786
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: deal coming in at the same point at the end

787
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: of the day, after travel and everything else that's going on.

788
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Speaker 1: It's got to be a whirlwind for those guys. I mean,

789
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Speaker 1: I heard, uh, um, I heard mister Harrison Phillips on

790
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: the radio this morning basically saying, yeah, I'm already back

791
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: in Omaha this morning, So he's that's the thing for

792
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: these guys. They're they're flying in, doing their thing, go

793
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: through the whole dog and Pony show, and then um

794
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: heading back home to kind of order exactly. Yeah, but

795
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: April with this one, all season training starts. So yeah,

796
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Speaker 1: a lotta Yeah. It's like the off season when by

797
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: very slow and then we had like some fast beeriods

798
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: and now we're back. So guys, what are you doing

799
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: your off season? Yeah, it's always the favorite question. It's

800
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: like there is no there is no off season in

801
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: the NFL. And speaking of free agency, didn't take any

802
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: time off as well. And I mean, I feel like

803
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: I say this every season, so I shouldn't really be surprised.

804
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this free agency is just crazy. I

805
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: just feel like it gets ramped up every single year.

806
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: The biggest one, I think for all of the NFC

807
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Speaker 1: North as well as Vikings fans, was watching Davontae Adams

808
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: get traded to the Radars. See don't want to see

809
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: us soon. But Aaron Rodgers is still in the division

810
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: song like, but his top target is Alum was hard

811
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Speaker 1: right now, just remember the whole criticism. They're probably drafting

812
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I don't have anybody to throw too, and

813
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: now Davante Adams is gone. Now I really have no

814
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: one to go throw too. I mean, I you know what, honestly,

815
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Speaker 1: good for Davante getting to a situation where he's got

816
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: a home in Vegas already, He's reunited with this college quarterbacks,

817
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: he's got the for with him with Derek Carr. So

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00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: I think for a guy like Davante, I mean, he

819
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Speaker 1: is going into a division that is an arms race

820
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Speaker 1: right now. So somebody say it was the sec of

821
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Speaker 1: the NFL. They're going to beat each other up though. Yeah,

822
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean you see the names getting signed in that division.

823
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Speaker 1: It's just insane. And the one thing for Davante is

824
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to pay income tax and very true.

825
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Speaker 1: And he gets to play indoors exactly. Yeah, and that

826
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Speaker 1: stadium is very nice, very nice, no snow, no snow,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm happy for him, and I'm happy with

828
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Speaker 1: the green for the Green Bay Packers because now they

829
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: got to work a lot to be a harder from

830
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Speaker 1: the NFC North, So I mean the Vikings, all Vikings

831
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: fans should be excited about this. We all saw a

832
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Speaker 1: lot of comments on Twitter from Vikings fans thanking uh

833
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: Davanta Adams for leaving the NFC North, so good for him,

834
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: not just Vians. With Devanta leaving and Alan Robinson heading

835
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: out to Los Angeles, this Vikings wide receiver corps is

836
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: stud best. It is the best in the division, so

837
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to keep up to. But

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00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: seeing DeVante leave and then another guy leaving this division

839
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: as well made me grin a little bit more this week.

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00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: Oh did you just set you set up the tease?

841
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to drop the name go

842
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: for ja Khalil Mack exactly. Seeing Khalil as well, I

843
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: know it's been a lot of hand ringing going on

844
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: Chicago the last couple of years with his play and

845
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: lack of play just due to injury. But having the

846
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: addition by subtraction for this Minnesota Vikings team. Seeing those

847
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: two big names leave this division made me very happy.

848
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: But the fact that I wouldn't say our division got worse,

849
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: but the fact that the AFC West got better. With

850
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: everything that is going on I'm like, dude, like, I'm

851
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: so glad, like we're not playing the AFC West this year,

852
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: like that that that would have been awful. Did you

853
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: play the FC West last year? Right? Yeah? Yeah, So

854
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: we played the FC West and the NFC West last year,

855
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: so we don't play them for another three year. So

856
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we can we can breathe a little

857
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: bit when when the division and then go from there.

858
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: It happened this way though a couple of years ago

859
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: with the NFC West where yes, Seattle, Arizona, the Ram

860
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: I mean, the Niners, the Rams. They were all in

861
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: the same kind of a boat where quarterbacks were top notch,

862
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: all the support staff was top notch. And just think

863
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: about how much that's changed in the last couple of years.

864
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: So again, I know the AFC in general, look at

865
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: all of the quarterbacks in the AFC right now. It

866
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: is absolutely loaded and absolutely stacked. But again, they all

867
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: have to play each other every single week. So this

868
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: is what makes the NFL fun, you know, seeing seeing

869
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: the cycles change, seeing the parody in the league. That's

870
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: what keeps us coming back for more. Speaking of parody, um,

871
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: I read a tweet earlier that said the AFC West

872
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: set a primetime game every week, Yeah, West Football, you

873
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: know instead of Monday Night Football Football. Hey maybe Joe

874
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: Buck and Trip and I'll lobby for that now that

875
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: they're on the Monday Night Football Crew. They had to

876
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: do no comment all right, well, well yeah we did. Um,

877
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, are you funny? I think if we

878
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: found the clip of Gabe saying Tom Brady's going to

879
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: San Francisco and um and now a week later, you were,

880
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: you were, you were not far from the tray. I

881
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: mean when he posted that, I think he posted on

882
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: Instagram that it's been two months. Well you know, he

883
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: did an interview days said its been fifty five been

884
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: home fifty five days. It's not the months. It's at

885
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: the idea that he actually sat down and counted the days.

886
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm like he literally mean, the tweets were like the

887
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: internet has undefeated for a reason. But the fact that

888
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, he knew the exact day when he retired

889
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: from football and he was like, you know, I still

890
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: got a decision to make. I'm like, Okay, this guy

891
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: is tired of his kids. He started being home and

892
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: he's just tired of not being normal, being exactly. He's like, oh,

893
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: I got to go to the story today. Okay, let

894
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: me let me figure this thing out and hit up

895
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Bruce arians and sound coming back. So he lived your

896
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: life a certain way for twenty years. I mean, it's

897
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: hard to like learn to be normal. I guess you

898
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: could say the prime exam people of this was Brett Farve.

899
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: That that was the first thing when he when why

900
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. When Brady came back, I immediately said,

901
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: H'm like, this is like Brett Farve and that you

902
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: are identifying with something that the entire world knows you for.

903
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: And to physically cut that chord and say I'm done

904
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life, I think has got

905
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: to be just daunting and scary knowing that this is

906
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: how I identify kind of who I am as a person.

907
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: And for a guy like Tom Brady, who arguably was

908
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: in the MVP conversation last year, it wasn't like no

909
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: offense to the last year of Peyton Manning's career, but

910
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: he definitely was not hitting the passes that he pad

911
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: or whatever. Tom Brady was still last season in the

912
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: category of is he the top player in the league,

913
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: And so for him to be like, yep, I'm done,

914
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: and there's all the speculation on. He didn't necessarily get

915
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 1: to call his own shot that he was retiring, blah

916
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: blah blah whatever, ade me wonder whatever, I didn't read done,

917
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: whatever the motivation could the whole thing of them prematurely

918
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: breaking it, you know Schefter, that kind of thing like

919
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: he wants to redo his retirement speech. Basically it was,

920
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: but it was the joke of saying, you know, Adam

921
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: Schefter was now the motivation for Tom to come back?

922
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: He said Lebron was too on top of that. But see,

923
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing, is like the idea of Tom Brady saying,

924
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: you know what, I still want to play, and I

925
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: think the rest of the public looks at it and says,

926
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: and he still can so sure so So. The hardest part, though,

927
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: is if you are a guy like that who is

928
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: a top tier athlete and you come back and you

929
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: don't have the season leading up to those expectations, and

930
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: then everyone goes, oh, he should have he should have

931
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: been done the year before. I honestly, as I've gotten older,

932
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: I look at these guys and just kind of say

933
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 1: they have to go out on their own terms, because

934
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: they mentally have to be able to be okay with it.

935
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: So so for a guy like Tom Brady, you know,

936
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: I was even joking saying, oh, fifty five days to

937
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: figure out. I don't want to be stuck at home

938
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: with my wife and kids every day, you know, just

939
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's the next thing in my life.

940
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: The thing about Tom though, as I kind of feel

941
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: like whatever the next piece of is for his life

942
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: once football's done, he is such an alpha that he

943
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: is going to find a way to kill it. Yeah.

944
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean he has won a super Bowl every season

945
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: after he's lost in the playoffs, which is an insane

946
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: stat you know, I mean, and that would set it

947
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: up for this season. But then also like you look

948
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: at the NFC and you see the path is just

949
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: so much easier, and what is it. It's like Aaron Rodgers,

950
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, and that's it as far as like quarterbacks

951
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: who are actually yeah for sure, And so that's I mean,

952
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: you think he's looking at all the free agency moves,

953
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: He's thinking about how all the quarterbacks are going somewhere else,

954
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, I just gotta deal with Rogers. Yeah,

955
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: I just hope he goes out, Like what Jay said,

956
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: I really just hope he goes out on his own terms.

957
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Like we've seen this story play out before, and like

958
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: I would hate for Tom Brady to be remembered as

959
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: someone who didn't go out on their own and be

960
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: remembered as some who's if he on the line of

961
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: like okay, I mean, clearly, if you're his teammate, you're like, okay,

962
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: this is the goat. But he like is he really

963
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: a one hundred percent in the locker room right now

964
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: or is he still debating retirement. He retired before, so

965
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: clearly that's on his mind. So I really hope, I mean,

966
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: I hope he gets respected for growing out in his

967
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: own terms. Sometimes it makes me think that maybe he was.

968
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: He did it because that's what it was expected of

969
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: him to do and not what he actually wanted to do.

970
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you say you're retiring, you're retiring, that

971
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: that's a decision that's like you wake up the next

972
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: morning and say, okay, like I'm done. Like I know

973
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: it was. It was very messy the way that it happened,

974
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: Because a guy like that wants to be able to

975
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: calls on shot and say yes, I'm done, and it

976
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: was leaked. But for a guy like Brady, if there

977
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: is any doubt in there and he's saying this kind

978
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: of stuff, the one thing I will give him credit

979
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: for is this. He did it right before free agency started.

980
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Why is that a big deal. It allows the Tampa

981
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: Bay Bucks to know we are not in rebuilding mode.

982
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: We just have to bring in some of these guys.

983
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: So you're signing a godwin for what was it three years,

984
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: sixty million or something along those lines. So at least

985
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: for him, he wasn't prolonging this thing and waiting until

986
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: training camp to bring it back. But for a guy

987
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, it's going to be a very another

988
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: juicy watch for this team. And it took the Bucks

989
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: out of the Deshaun Watson scramble. Uh the race the watch, yeah, watchson. Sorry, guys,

990
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: don't be sorry. Don't be sorry. Pun of the podcast today, folks,

991
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: Uh yeah no, but uh the Bucks out of that race.

992
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: And you know I saw again Twitter can't help myself

993
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: with this tweet. I saw someone tweet out saying when

994
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: when he's like telling teams individually like you're out of

995
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: the race, You're out of the race, somebody was like,

996
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: what is this a final rose ceremony? Yes, that's what

997
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: it's like. I think what the Falcons and the Saints

998
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: are in like the top two held propose to one

999
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: of them at the end of it all. But yeah,

1000
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: that's exactly. Yeah. I hope it's the Falcons because we

1001
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: played the Saints this year and I don't want to

1002
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: see this Shaun Watson in New Orleans on that team

1003
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: that's still got a solid core that just needs a quarterback. Um.

1004
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: But in the same breath, Deshaun Watson like he I

1005
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: feel like he's going to be on a tear whenever

1006
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: he gets back into this league. Like, whoever the team

1007
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: de Sean chooses to go to, I'm sure that team

1008
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: is going to be considered a contender because of the

1009
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: elite capability that that he has already shown on film

1010
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: and just who he is just as a football player.

1011
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: So simply just stating at that, if it's the Saints,

1012
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: look at them as a contender in the NFC. Now,

1013
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: if it's the Falcons, look at them as a contender

1014
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: in the NFC, and um, I think the Browns their

1015
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: situation right now, Baker Mayfield, I think that is that

1016
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: is the most interesting thing, right Baker Mayfield requested a

1017
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: trade and then the Brown said no, and then he

1018
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: put out a statement before he So the offseason in

1019
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: a night show has been very messy. It's been very messy,

1020
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: especially within the NFC because think of it this way.

1021
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: If Watson does end up going to the Saints, the

1022
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: Saints are kind of reloading again at quarterback. If he

1023
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: chooses to go to Atlanta, then what happens to Matt Ryan?

1024
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: I know, Matt's just going to ask that question. Matt's

1025
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: at the back end of his career. But then there's

1026
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: fallout there, so would there potentially be, But there are

1027
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: several teams that would scoot Matt Ryan up because they

1028
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 1: have questions and quarterback like does he go to the Brow?

1029
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: Does he go to the Saints? Like does you know?

1030
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: And and all of the other teams Carolina who who

1031
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: was in this this race as well? Like yeah, there's

1032
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: a ton of teams that are currently even Seattle, They're

1033
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: all raising their hands saying, hey, we got some needs

1034
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: here too. So there's John Watson's the domino that's going

1035
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: to make the rest of them fall It's the ripple

1036
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: effect throughout the rest of the quarterback tree. At this point,

1037
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: throughout the entire NFL, it's it's gonna it never stops.

1038
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: It never ceases to get boring. You know. I always

1039
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: the joke is my job is never boring. And it's

1040
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: because this stuff constantly keeps changing and shifting all throughout

1041
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: the offseason. So this is why people love it. People

1042
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: see it's very messy. One thing that was a messy

1043
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: was von Miller getting six year deal with the Bills.

1044
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: But he is say it was like breaking up with

1045
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: a girlfriend signing with the Bills because he feels like

1046
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: he let the La Rams down like that, that is

1047
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: a what a super Bowl you did? You did the

1048
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 1: you know the thing they signed you for. Feeling post

1049
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: and he said, oh man, leaving the Rams for Bills

1050
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: is like breaking up with my girlfriend. He says, I

1051
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: feel like I let the Rams down. I feel like

1052
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm breaking up with my girlfriend. That's just me and

1053
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: how I go about my business. But this was a

1054
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: one time in my life where I had to make

1055
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: a decision for me. I mean, I wouldn't turn down

1056
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: that deal. I gotta say, six year, one hundred and

1057
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: twenty mill is a hell of a rebound girlfriend. That

1058
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: is one of those things where there was even rumors.

1059
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: I know there was talk about Von kind of hinting

1060
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: even online saying he was potentially going back to Denver.

1061
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: So the fact that he went to the Bills, who

1062
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Speaker 1: was still a contender, same kind of thing. Like he

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Speaker 1: is at the stage in his career once he got traded,

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00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: he kind of can cherry pick with what he wants

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Speaker 1: to do here, especially given he's already got one ring.

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Speaker 1: He's looking over at the Bill saying these are the next,

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Speaker 1: the next guys to do this. So getting a Von

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00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: Miller up in Buffalo and that defense again, Leslie Frasier

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00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: once again is gonna be looking at jobs. So fifty

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Speaker 1: one million dollars was guaranteed, right, but his signing wonus

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Speaker 1: was forty nine. So like when he signed a paper,

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Speaker 1: he got forty nine millions exactly. Like, dude, that is insane.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about that question.

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Speaker 1: My breakfast would taste a lot better. Three thirty four

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Speaker 1: years old, man, congrats, Yeah, did he not win a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl Denver? He won Super Bowl in Denver. He

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Speaker 1: won Super Bowl MVP in Denver. That's why I thought,

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Speaker 1: so he's got two rings. That's why I thought. Okay, Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I was just me trying to fact check so he

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Speaker 1: would be first. Well, I guess the second person in

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Speaker 1: NFO history to win a Super Bowl with three different teams,

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Speaker 1: if he wanted, if he won Buffalo. Okay, Some more

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00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: big contracts were signed down in Jackson Bill, where we

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Speaker 1: saw seven free agents free agent contracts totaling two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty nine point five million dollars. One hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty five point two five of that is guaranteed. That's

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00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: a lot of money. They're following the Bengals approach. The

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00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: Bengals last year spent two hundred million in free agency

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00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, and look at

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Speaker 1: where it ended up. We'll look at where they ended

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Speaker 1: up in the Super Bowl. The Jaguars are basically saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if the AFC West is going to beat up on

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Speaker 1: each other, we're gonna go our route in the division.

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Speaker 1: And because I mean, the FC South that's where they're in, right,

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00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: FC South isn't as tough. So I mean, you don't

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Speaker 1: have Deshaun Watson and Houston anymore. You don't have like

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00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: there's a there's a way, sir, the question mark. They

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00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: still have a good defense, but they don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Matt Ryan goes there, but Matt Ryan spot But

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at that. The Jaguars are saying, hey,

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00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: we're trying to win now. So kudos to them for

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Speaker 1: having the salary cap and then spending it wisely. Just

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Speaker 1: when you think free agency like had a week, I

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00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: feel like the more we talk, the more things can

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Speaker 1: completely change over the next few weeks. Still, I kind

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00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: of feel like with the running the seven route here,

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00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: the Jags basically walk guys into the building, sat them

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00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: in front of a slot machine. It just went seven

1109
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: to seven seven. Like the amount of money that these

1110
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: guys are getting, you know, the Jags are thrown around

1111
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: is crazy. And I know that they were one of

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00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: the teams that had one of the biggest salary cap

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00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: gaps available. You know that they could use and sign

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Speaker 1: the One caution I will say to this, and especially

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Speaker 1: for Vikings fans, the idiom that has lasted over the years,

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00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: and that every year it feels like I believe it

1117
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: more and more is you augment through free agency, but

1118
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: you build through the draft. And what this is an

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00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: example of for me is the Jags as an organization

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Speaker 1: still having a hard time figuring out, how do we

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Speaker 1: draft for the future, how do we create this core

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00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: in this base because you think about like Unique and

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Speaker 1: Goakway when he was traded here, They've traded away a

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Speaker 1: bunch of major pieces, and so the Jags are still

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Speaker 1: at the point now, new front office, new coach, new

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00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: ownership wise, They're willing to do what they can, but

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Speaker 1: it just feels like they haven't been able to set

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Speaker 1: that culture in that tone of year after year consistently

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Speaker 1: drafting people, keeping people in that building. And so then

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Speaker 1: they have to go out and do things like spend

1131
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: almost two hundred and sixty million dollars in contracts on

1132
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: seven players to try to help them have a team

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00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: that they can field. And so you know, once again,

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Speaker 1: we're going to try and see does this workout? And

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00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson likes having some of these new

1136
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: stars come onto this team that he's trying to build

1137
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: and build for the future. But as a as a

1138
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: practice in the past, this method typically does not work

1139
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: that well. But well, the Jags bucked that trend and

1140
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: actually become contenders in the fc celth It looks good though,

1141
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they signed what a couple of receivers, A

1142
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: tight end, Evan, I think, Evan Ingram, I think the

1143
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: biggest one for me was Brendan Shure. For sure, they

1144
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: got to sign their own lot. They have to. They

1145
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: have to protect Trevor eet Trevor Lawrence. And then on

1146
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Speaker 1: top of that, they have number one overall pick, and

1147
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: you know they're going most likely going left tackle the

1148
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: guy from NC State. They have a plan. They got

1149
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: a second rounder and two third rounders, so hopefully they

1150
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: can they can get it right in the draft. And

1151
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: I think what they're trying to do is something similar

1152
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: to you talked about earlier. They are looking at what

1153
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals did a couple of years ago, taking two

1154
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: number one picks overall, augmenting with some bigger names on

1155
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: this team to fill other major glaring holes and hopefully

1156
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: use that method. And maybe this is the future of

1157
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: what free agency is for the NFL if both of

1158
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: these teams are able to make this work. But you're

1159
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: basically rolling the dice here trying to make sure that

1160
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: you have a team that has a bunch of superstars

1161
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: that can field a product that doesn't squander major years

1162
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: for guys like Trevor Lawrence. You gotta have the cap

1163
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: space at the end of the day. That's that's what

1164
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: it comes down to. That's what's been challenging, I think

1165
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: for this Vikings team and this new front office. But

1166
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: the roster building process is only just begun. To keep

1167
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: up with all of the Vikings news and moves, stick

1168
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: with Vikings on all social and digital platforms, where you'll

1169
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: find some more behind the scenes footage of all of

1170
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: our signings this week, as well as what's happening in

1171
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: the future. Again, I know I mentioned earlier that we're

1172
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Speaker 1: gonna have another episode of Pick six Mailbag on Tuesday,

1173
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Speaker 1: so look out to submit your questions on Twitter. I'll

1174
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: be fielding those that at Tatum Everett on my Twitter handle.

1175
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Speaker 1: But for now, Gabe Jay, this was a great convo.

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Speaker 1: I like, I had fun this episode to be able

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Speaker 1: to just kind of talk around the league with you guys.

1178
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Speaker 1: I know, sometimes we've focus so much on the Vikings

1179
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: it was kind of neat to I mean, if we're

1180
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: being honest, it's not really much news to talk about

1181
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: with the Vikings, So cut that we had to supplement

1182
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just going I think more. For me, it's

1183
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: just nice to have the three of us back in

1184
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: the room together. I know we've we've all been doing

1185
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: different things trying to get ready, but with free agency

1186
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: fully kicking in this week, it's been fun just to

1187
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: look at everything and kind of speculate and feel like, hey,

1188
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: we've got some more clarity as to what our future

1189
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: is going to be. So it's been fun to be

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Speaker 1: here with you guys here this week. Yeah, but we

1191
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: have been talking about just what's what it's gonna look like,

1192
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: and now we're starting to get a little bit of

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00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: a picture. I would say, you know, the puzzles about

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00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: a fourth done, and it's only week one. Actually, it's

1195
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: only a couple of days into free agency, Like what

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00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: is the rest of this going to look like? So

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Speaker 1: stick around for next week and we'll see what kind

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Speaker 1: of fireworks hit. Yeah, so be on the lookout. Subscribe

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Speaker 1: to our Minnesota Vikings podcast channel so that you can

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Speaker 1: get the latest episodes as they drop. Again, we enjoyed

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Speaker 1: having Jordan Hicks on the podcast this week, and next

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Speaker 1: time you'll hear from Harrison Phillips. So stay tuned guys,