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The episodes 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: are really popping on the only on network and very 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: I don't know the own network. Who owns it? Oprah? 81 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: Oprah owns it? Oprah owns it now. This show, it's 82 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: from one of the I would say top talents directors, 83 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: Ava Duvenat. She used to She's the beast. She's a beast. 84 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: It's seriously set in Louisiana, follows the lives and loves 85 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: of a messy family. I like those shows messy. They's 86 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: kind of like a black dynasty. If you oldest me, 87 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, Black dynasty family. You know, 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: if you want to go even further back, they go 89 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: back to the country western days, Big Valley, you know, 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: ponder Rosa, you know, the day the family shows and 91 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: stuff like that. This ain't no little house on the prairie. 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: You know that's that? That was that That was nice show. 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: This is really this is show where the black people 94 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: get messy on own. The show is are as I 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: said from a happy Award nominating filmmaker ever doing Name 96 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: and she's She's the bomb. Not my, my, my, my, 97 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: next guest I'm about to bring on the show I've 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: been I'm gonna tell you about this guy is that 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: I met him. We're gonna talk about this. I met 100 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: him on the Steve Harvey camp and you know, I 101 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: was a little jealous of him because you know, I 102 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: was writing on the show back in the early Name. 103 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: He was on every doing TV show and he looked 104 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: good too. And I'm not man because he looked good. 105 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: But he was on every doing TV show and I 106 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: could but he never did my show because I did 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: the Parenthood, I did the Sister Sister, I did the 108 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Jamie Fire, and I could never cast his brother. You 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: know why, because he always had his own series. He 110 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: always had his own series. He's one of the most 111 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: consistent working actors in Hollywood. He's one of the stars 112 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: of the new owned series. Please welcome to Money Making 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: Conversation Dendre with Phil my brother, Mr Wit Phil. How 114 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: are you doing? What's going on? I'm doing well, man, 115 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. And man, I say that man because 116 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: you and and jokingly because uh, I admired because we 117 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: know Hollywood is uh, it's not a kind to people 118 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: of color. You know, the opportunities can't be limited. At 119 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: one time, the only way we can get on TV 120 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: was on the reality show. Why are black dramas seeming 121 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: to seem to be operating now? They seemed to be 122 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: working now because you used to be only able to 123 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: see African Americans in comedy. We're gonna be funny. Ha ha. 124 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: We were funny and nobody would really watch the dramas. 125 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: But that seems to be turning now. Yeah. I think, 126 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: um that that came out of the fact that a 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: lot of our dramas has been over sensationalized about who 128 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: we are and about what we are. They seem to 129 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: have been stuck in the space of telling one side 130 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: of our story. Right what you're seeing in Queen Sugar 131 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: is the fullness of our story. So you're seeing the life, 132 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: the loves, um, the struggles, the successes, um. And you're 133 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: also being uh, the truths that are being told through 134 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: the lenses of our daily experiences in a country that 135 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: has a saying we should show pride in our country, 136 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: but sometimes shows us that we aren't valued. So I 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: think the thing that you understand what I mean, I 138 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: think that the thing that really resonates with our audiences 139 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: is the fact that there is a great authenticity UH 140 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: that is being shared in the storytelling of of this show. UH. 141 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: There's no there's no lying about it. We're not cutting 142 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: around any truths. We've dealt with Black lives matter, We've 143 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: dealt with protests, We've dealt with UH pregnancies, we've dealt 144 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 1: with UH generational wealth, we've dealt with poverty, We've dealt 145 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: with UM UH industries that are difficult for our folks 146 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: to break into or feel people in. So again, all 147 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: of that speaks to the authenticity of the storytelling. And 148 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I think that that's what really resonates with our audiences 149 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: is truth. Well resonates with me because I'm a writer, 150 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm a producer, and I know you know, I've done 151 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: sitcom some sister Sister to Jamie Foxx to Parenthood. So 152 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying is that, you know, being 153 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: behind the camera, being the writers. But to my understanding 154 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: that this this the production staff is a female influenced staff. Correct, Yes, 155 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: it's really a um Eva has her vision show us 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: to have UH an inclusive set meanings there would be 157 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: women involved, there would be uh, folks of color involved. 158 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, she actually um made it 159 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: a mandate that before anyone could present a department head, 160 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: they would have to present m viable candidates of color 161 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: for those department had positions. Um. And that is not 162 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: normally done in our industry. Um. She also she further 163 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: made it a mandate that, uh, the directors would be 164 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: all female. So every female that we've had for the 165 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: past uh three seasons were in the in the midst 166 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: of our third season. Every single one of them have 167 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: been female, including my own life my wife directed, no 168 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: question and um and really, um say Sally Richards and 169 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: Whitfield is his wife put the word out's and I 170 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: want on my show, Yes the wield because she's a 171 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: story in ourselves. Man. You know, she's just incredible actress, 172 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, and and has crossed over and it's directing everywhere. 173 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: She's directing every sci fi to comedy to drama. She 174 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: is turning and turning pages out there, man. And I'm 175 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: proud of her. I'm proud of you because y'all live 176 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: that balanced life, man, and I like that. Yeah, you're 177 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: living the life of of of working hard at whatever 178 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: your profession is, but making sure that uh, that you 179 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: preserve your your personal space. I told my wife a 180 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: long time ago, I said, we gotta work just as 181 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: hard at our marriage as we do at our careers. Um, 182 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: because that's how you sustain those people, you know, said 183 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: you know. And I love it because sometimes people will 184 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: come up to me and they would say, hey, you 185 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: and Sali still married, and I'm like, yeah, because they're 186 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: so not used to people in in Hollywood being together, 187 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, for that amount of time. We've been together 188 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: for twenty years. We've been married for fifteen of those. 189 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: So the union of twenty years in our industry is 190 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: like being together for sixty years. Now. The thing I 191 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: love about it, I want to let everybody know that 192 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: listening and some people who may be watching on Facebook 193 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: is his. The beauty of this couple. Um, when it 194 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: comes to charity work, they have time. When we needed 195 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: him on the step Harveary camp, he came and a 196 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: lot of people came and come and lead, or they 197 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: do one session and they go, hey, where's the uber. 198 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. He you had to 199 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: run him off the camp because he was there to 200 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: change lives that we can, you know, Sally, when I 201 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: needed to comfort the Neighborhood Awards because you know, you 202 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: gotta have celebrities of people won't buy tickets, you know, 203 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: she would, I call it the last minute. Sometimes I 204 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: call her head a schedule. She made a point that 205 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: the importance of being there and and and supporting, and 206 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: and and and cherishing and showcasing the talents because it 207 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: really the stars of the show are the people in 208 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: the community. It's not the people who present their awards. 209 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: And she felt that was important. So I love the 210 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: way you guys are fact the community. And that's one 211 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: of the reasons I know you're starting on on you know, 212 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: Queen Sugar, and I'm gonna promote that. And you know 213 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: I have been promoting this, but I was more important 214 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: to me was let people hear you. Man. You're the 215 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: man who had to your passion, your your your career, 216 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: your body of work. You know. And because social media 217 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: plays an important role, because Queen Sugar is one of 218 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: the most popular shows when it airs on social media, 219 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: that's important. And to get your story told correct, what's 220 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: talk about? And I'm gonna tell you the the importance 221 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: of social media. I literally made a postum making a 222 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: great clee to our brother uh Floyd Mayweather. He had 223 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: made a post uh talking about the value of one 224 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: of his watches. It was reportedly eighteen million dollars. And 225 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: and what I did was, I said, you know a 226 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of people were you know, destroying him over the 227 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: fact that you know that that he would invest his 228 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: money UM in what would seem to be such a 229 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: frivolous purchase when there are people that would you know, 230 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: that would obviously um do well in having that money 231 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: assists there uh, their educational aspirations, their career goals, UM, 232 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: the community, all of those things. And I said, you know, 233 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: rather than be one that does the ungodly thing, which 234 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: is to shame someone for some of the things that 235 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: they may have made, I do as a godly man, 236 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: what I try to do is lovingly hold our our 237 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: our folks accountable and to bring certain things to their attention. 238 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: So through a post, because I don't have a contact 239 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: for the brother, just to be honest, UM, I literally 240 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: made a post that I said, my brother, you're from 241 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: Grand Rapids, Michigan. Not far down the road is Flint, Michigan, 242 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: and our community could be resuscitated by that kind of money, 243 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: your wealth could actually revive an entire community. You're talking 244 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: about a hundred thousand people in the city of Flint 245 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: that that are struggling with drinkable water. So I encouraged 246 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: our brother to turn his watch into water. And that's 247 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: what I have tagged watched into water. And a few 248 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: days after that, the mayor of Flint got in touch 249 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: with me to say thank you. Because it feels like 250 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: every single day we're distracted by certain issues. We're distracted 251 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: by the fact that Puerto Rico still isn't being properly addressed. 252 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: We're distracted by the fact that Flint, Michigan, still isn't 253 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: properly being addressed. And it's literally because every single day 254 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: we're bombard bombarded with another news story about a specific 255 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: administration not doing uh the job that they should be 256 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: doing as it pertains to the people that it's supposed 257 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: to be serving. So it's very difficult to stay on topic. 258 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: So she said, I literally wanted to call you myself 259 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: just to say thank you. We were on the phone 260 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: for an hour and a half. And because I am 261 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: a speaker, because I am a restoration agent, because that 262 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: is my purpose work I offered my services. She said, 263 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: I would love to have you come here. I want 264 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: to thank you for coming on my show. Man, Hey, 265 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: you did you? You ended this show letting the world 266 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: know who you are. And I appreciate that because that's 267 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: all I wanted to people understand, is that when you called, 268 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: when it's when there's a call for service. 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But next Sense 327 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: is the principal chairman the CEO of dream Flights International. 328 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: Dream Flights is a private jet service that utilizes a 329 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: network of four thousand pre qualified aircraft adhering to safety 330 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: standards higher than those of the f a A Requirements 331 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: and chart. The aircraft is out the thirty thousand airports worldwide. 332 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, Anthony Thurston. Good morning. 333 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: Are you doing Anthony, I'm blass, Thanks for asking, good man. 334 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Happy to have you on my show, Mighty Making Conversations. 335 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: You know, So tell me, Anthony, where are you based 336 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: out of We're based out of Houston, Texas, my hometown. 337 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: Come on, and I've never used your service? Come on now, 338 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: we got to change that. Yeah, we have to do 339 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: something about that, because look, look, before we get started 340 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: explaining everybody what exactly your company does, well, we're over spoke. 341 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: Aviation Company again, as she stayed in the opening. We 342 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: charter aircraft out of thirty thousand airports worldwide using a 343 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: network of four thousand airport aircraft. Excuse me that here 344 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: the safety inquirements as to expandard. We offer ground transportation 345 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: in seventy countries as well as executive protection upon the quest. 346 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: There are two sides of the business who want us 347 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: on demand charter any others plus card where you buy 348 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: uh bull hours of flight time, traffication intuit included. Now, okay, 349 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things you do out there. Now, 350 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: you had four thousands pre qualified aircraft. How are your 351 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: aircraft qualified? What? What's what's the what's what are the 352 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: standards because you said they're higher than the f A. Yeah, 353 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: they are wild and approved, so they have different res 354 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: regulations if you will, and certifications that they found them 355 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: they are safe aircraft. To put that in context, they're 356 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: about well about twenty tho aircraft out there available for 357 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: charter are out there period. There's probably about fourteen thousand 358 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: and twelve thousand of those that are available to charter 359 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: to the public and the four thousand that we use 360 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: or even more exclusive. And they're the same aircraft that 361 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: the big box operators use such as net ten Buch Tests, etcetera, 362 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: that they use a supplemental lift. Now is your business 363 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: for the lifestyle of the rich and famous. Not enough 364 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: to shipway, it's more of it's kind of a revolution 365 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: if you will star to innovation program that we have 366 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: our initiative. You know, we believing in donating ten percent 367 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: of on that profit back into charities, foundations and community 368 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: programs of the purchaser's choice. So it truly is a 369 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: lifestyle or looking to the life life minded individenens that 370 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: are looking to make a difference. Now, the thing I 371 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: liked about I enjoy about private air travel is that security. 372 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Just walk right on that planet to do the path down? 373 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: Do have to get get the airport two hours before? 374 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: And when you get that two hours before, you still 375 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: frustrated that line that's standing in front of you. Those 376 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: are some of the what are some of the perks 377 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: Because I want to get people to understand the basics 378 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: because I got you for two breaks. I want to 379 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: take my time. I really want to we really expose 380 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: people to your business and the different lanes of opportunity 381 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: because when people that's why I opened up and say 382 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: that line about lifestyle and rich your famous, because I 383 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: know it's really not about that nowadays, you know, it's 384 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: really the pricing is really coming down to just everyday 385 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: travel depends on how you want to travel. So when 386 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: I when I when I look at when I look 387 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: at a business like yours and watching it grow, how 388 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: long have you been in business? Been in business for 389 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: nineteen years. We started as Dream Flights Luxury Travel. We 390 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: were a jet helicopter company with basically so perfectly just 391 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: getting paid but at a but guide moment, if you will, 392 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: and he changed the direction and transforming the company into 393 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: a private aviation company. What's social innovation at its core? 394 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: So with that being said, what is what is? What 395 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: are you selling to your customers? What are you saying? Uh, 396 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: you know because some people are in private Ada are 397 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: taking advantage of corporate trip there. You know they were 398 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: because you have WiFi on these planes nowadays, a lot 399 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: of times you can put four or five lawyers or 400 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: four or five executives on the plane. They can do 401 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: a business meeting all the way till they touched down, 402 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: and it's totally private because unlike when you commercial, when 403 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: you're talking to everybody can hear your conversation. So what 404 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: do you see the growing trend in your business right now? Well, 405 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: our value proposition. Of course, you're saving time and time 406 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: and saving money. You know a lot of most people say, 407 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: how you know how important their time is, but I 408 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: don't think we are as a whole really realize how 409 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: important that is. Let's save Let's say you have a 410 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: whatever you're your revenue goal is for the year, you know, 411 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: and if you want, if you divide that by two 412 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, that'll give you your hourly rate. So 413 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: to speak of the value of your time. You know, 414 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: most people don't think in that context and do that 415 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: cost benup in analysis if you will. So, yes, you 416 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: you are truly saving time and you're being more efficient 417 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: and uh and therefore more productive. So what I'm talking 418 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm on the phone. He's on the phone. He's a 419 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: principal chairman, the CEO of dream Flights International. I'm ru 420 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I want to use your services. How does 421 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: that happen in the private actraft? In the private actor, 422 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna because you have different lengths, Because I want 423 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: to get to the security, which I think is really interesting, 424 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: and I want to get to the show for the 425 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: private cost service. Let's talk about the private aircraft aircraft traffic. Okay, 426 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: So on the on demand where you can either call 427 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: into our toll free line or go through our website 428 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: portfolio porthole, excuse me, And and that's where you just 429 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: get the air side of it. And then all of 430 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: your ground transportation, your premium catoring and whatnot is all 431 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: ale cart now with our plus cards, our check card 432 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: if you will, that's where you're buying bull hours of 433 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: flight time, bulk hours and ground transportation. All your taxes 434 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: and fees and still search arges are included premium catering 435 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: and ground transportation. So it's kind of like when you 436 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: go to cost go only buying boat and you're saving 437 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: money situation through our card. Now, what about catering? Is 438 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: catering included to absolutely promium cator and not just get 439 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: regular cator Most most of the competitors says the offer 440 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: catering and that's just the trips and shoulders and nuts 441 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: and candy that's on the plane. Catering is the real deal. 442 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: So on our last trip that we had the sall 443 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: grass on that so you know, come come now see 444 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: that everybody that's all guys, not all of the country. 445 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: That's that's a steakhouse. Because it explained to my listeners. 446 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: You know, he's from Houston, so he knows, I know, 447 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: South Grass. South Grass is like it's a steak company's 448 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a middle ground States really good. 449 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: But the roles are fantastic. And so if you cad 450 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: and salt Grass on these planes, I'm about to look 451 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: into you a little bit closer, my f because that show. 452 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: Don't get that old delta, that's that's really cool. So 453 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: so so basically everybody knows the expenses on that format, 454 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: and so you can go there and you can pick 455 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: different type of planes that what is your most popular 456 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: plane that gets uh get used? I get, I guess 457 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: say rented, I guess service your in your life? Two 458 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: detailed to ask and no, no, that's a great question. 459 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: But actually we're not an aircraft specific company. Where are 460 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: a class specific company? I mean not by saying that. 461 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: Let's say, if you if you want to fly on 462 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: a Falcon you know, I mean Superman class aircraft, you're 463 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: in Houston with our competitors, they're gonna find one that's 464 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: in Houston. If there's not one to safe the nearest 465 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: ones in Dallas, you have to reposition that aircraft to you, 466 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to pay for the reposition costs. 467 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: Where with us being a class specific aircraft aircraft company, 468 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: excuse me, then will find another superman it's in the area, 469 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: save you the repositioning costs, and past that saving on 470 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: to you. That's where our price points or even lower, 471 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: So we can offer a greater value at the lower 472 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: pros point because of just that one fact. That's true 473 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: because a lot of I gotta tell everybody, but I 474 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: want to I want to bring you on my show 475 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: because a lot of people they start talking about private 476 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: that they started talking about, you know, custom suits, they 477 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: think that's out of that price line. They start talking 478 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: about things, you know, private cost so they think that's 479 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: how their price line. Now now you know aircraft, you 480 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: know private aircraft, they really think that's how their price line. 481 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: And I just want to let people know, if you 482 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: do your research, it really isn't like you said, time 483 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: is money. And if you if you're trying to get someplace, 484 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: and you can do a family outing and a group 485 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: of friends y'all can just pull the money together and 486 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: uh and you can rent out this and then to 487 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: come get you to drop you off and it will 488 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: pick you up and can be a round trip and 489 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: it can be a really fun experience. If that's if 490 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: you know, if that's if you want to do a 491 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: bucket list a bucket list trip type thing. So I 492 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: just want to let everybody know, Anthony, that you know, 493 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: stop thinking that you can't afford something. Just just do 494 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: your research and come to a company like yours, because 495 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: you guys are willing to work with people to educate 496 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: them so they can use your services. Correct Again, that's 497 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: kind of hard to explain over over the phone and 498 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: on the radio, but will be going happy to send 499 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: you some information. You have another thing, well, first of all, 500 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you in my newsletter. I gotta put 501 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: you in my news On the phone with principal chairman 502 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: and CEO of Dream Flights inter Nahville, I want to 503 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time to call my show. 504 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: It's been wonderful, it's been an honor. I look forward 505 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: to many more conversations holfully in the teaching and it 506 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: will be keep winning out there. My friend mind making conversations. 507 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from mar Sean McDonald 508 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: and money making conversations. Don't touch that down. 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She 554 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: was the wood into Deep's my boy LLL coo J. 555 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: That's when he was an undercover cop. I'm talking about 556 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: his character and loving basketball. So now Layton, everybody goes, 557 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: can she really pay basketball? Can she made? Right? Now? 558 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: Was a really on breaking movie because it was it 559 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: was young love. It was really young love had really 560 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: been featured like that in the in the movies, and 561 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: they that was a groundbreaker. His television work includes the 562 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: roll of Dr Dennis Gant on the medical drama series Eer. 563 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: I rememberhen they cast his brother on e Er and 564 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: he died. But the way he died, they called his 565 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: phone and the beeper and the beeple went off and 566 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: it was operating on that man. That all that messed 567 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: me up. Man, that messed me up. He run over 568 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: by train bar and Dr Martin Bellamy in Resurrection. He 569 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: played a lot of doctors. He's just he don't have 570 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: a medical degree nowhere, but he played doctors on TV 571 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: and The House from two thousand and four to two 572 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve. He is currently shooting the third season 573 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: of The Shooter on USA Network. He was on the 574 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: Show Now to discuss his career and his new book, 575 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: From Fatherless to Fatherhood, which is now available now on 576 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: Bunch of Noble dot com, Amazon dot com, Lulu dot com. 577 00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Omar Epps, long brother, 578 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: and let's say about you a lot say about you. 579 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I appreciate it really well. I'm gonna 580 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: tell you some Let's get to this book, man. I 581 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: want to read a quote from this book. I read 582 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: the book, and uh, I always I always find a 583 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: certain value system when I read about people, right, stories, 584 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: especially stories. Your book is as a personal journey about 585 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: growing up without a father, and unfortunately that's very um 586 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: that's not nothing unusual, especially in the African American community. 587 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: And why was it important to tell your story to 588 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: us well for that exact reason what you just said 589 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: is that we've we've normalized that, um, you know, the 590 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: fatherless household in our community, and we have to we 591 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: have to evolve, We have to. I want to to 592 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: write them a book about my story, share my story 593 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: that hopefully it could be used as a tool of inspiration, 594 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: so that we changed the narrative on that so that 595 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: these young brothers coming up, you know, look at that 596 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: like it's not cool, you know, like we're in the 597 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: bober shop, we all friends, and one of us know, 598 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, not handling the responsibilities as a father. Then 599 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: you lane now you know, and you get back on track. 600 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 1: Though you always have the power of choice at your 601 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: disposal to to get back on track. So that's really 602 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: where it came from. Man, just trying to help shift 603 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: that narrative. And it's important because the song that you 604 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: mentioned by the incredible Tupox Brender's Got a Baby. I 605 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: remember that book movie That song came out back in 606 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: ninety two two time frame. It was such a powerful song, 607 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: uh and it still resonates today. And you mentioned that, 608 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: and I want to allow you to speak on what 609 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: you felt though was his goal was when he uh 610 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: produced a song and put it out and then you 611 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: thought that nobody listened because you brought that up in 612 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: your book, and because the book the song was an 613 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: incredible song that we Brenda's Got a Baby by two 614 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: Poor Corps. It's a it's a song about a young lady. Oh, 615 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: of course gets pregnant too early, and uh what happens 616 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: all too often, not only just in the African Americans, 617 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: just in some communities in general. But in this case, 618 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about the African American community. And you mentioned 619 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: that in the book. So explain to us why did 620 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: you mentioned it in the book. Well, because you know, 621 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: for that particular song, I was I was bad from 622 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: this inception. Um. We were on the set of Juice 623 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: one day and one morning in two pocket read the 624 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: you know, the daily paper, and it was I'm from 625 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: New York. So we were in New York and from 626 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: and a woman had thrown a baby in the trash. 627 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: And he was just so so affected by that. And 628 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: at the time, I'm like, man, read about stuff like 629 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: that all the time out here, and he was just 630 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: so affected by that. And by lunchtime he said, oh, 631 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: coming to trailer. So I went in to trailer and 632 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: he starts, you know, wrapping these verses to me, and 633 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: I'm listening. I'm like, man, that's you know, that's deep, 634 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: but I'm not knowing what it is. And then two 635 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: months later, you know, his I heard Brenda's Got a 636 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: Baby for the first thing. As soon as I heard 637 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: the song, I said, oh, that's the that's the joint. 638 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: So I went back to that exact moment, and I 639 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: just thought it was so profound to see that his 640 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: his uh, his his artistic process in that way musically, 641 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: like wow, he really took a real life event and 642 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: shifted it into a greater story. And he was really 643 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: trying to spark spark mind, you know. And so that's 644 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: why that that, that's why I mentioned that in the book, 645 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: because I was a profound moment for me, well, to 646 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: say the least. Now, on the phone with Omar Epps 647 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: his book from Fatherless to Fatherhood. There in the back 648 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: of the book, it was a verse that I want 649 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: to say that I felt was really important to say 650 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: doing this interview, and he reached like this, this is 651 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: from your book, Omar, to all those fathers who have 652 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: fallen off, you don't have to you don't have the 653 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: luxury of catching amnesia just because your relationship with the 654 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: mother of your child didn't work. That woman is the 655 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: mother of your child, period. Why would you even try 656 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: to turn a kid against her. Plus, when it's all 657 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: said and done, neither of you wins, only your child 658 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: will lose. Wow. You know, yeah, I mean that's real, man. 659 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: You know, I try to I try to, uh speak 660 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: on different scenarios, right, Like, you know, a lot of 661 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: things happen. Sometimes things don't happen in a traditional way. Uh. 662 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: You know, you can have a child out of wedline. 663 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: You could be married, the relationship dissolved. You might just 664 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: be bortrained girl, whatever the scenario is. At the end 665 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: of the day, you know, once you once to people 666 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: make a commitment to have a child, um, and they 667 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: have to put that child. They're making a lifelong commitment 668 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: to each other, regardless of what happens, you know, in 669 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: their love relationship, you know, in terms of intimacy, regardless 670 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: that dissolves, they still have a lifelong commitment you know, 671 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: to this child and to each other. So you know, 672 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: it's just trying to drop jews for the young brothers 673 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: to think about that before they make certain moves and 674 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: when they may those moons. To keep that in mind, 675 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: because I get it. It's hard, you know. And I 676 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: even try to speak to um women in the book 677 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: in in some the same ways. You know, there's a 678 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: lot of emotional things can happen. There's a lot of 679 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, this book is full of quote. I'm on 680 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: the phone with all my apps in this book from 681 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: Fatherless to Fatherhood. You can get that Bonds and Noble, 682 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, you know, and you should get this book. 683 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: And uh, it's a. It's a because the problem I 684 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: always have with with books because you know, women buy books. 685 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: Women will buy books. Men, on the other hand, who 686 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: need to be reading this book. I don't think I 687 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: need to read that, and I would let's change that 688 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: because it's something you should read because of the fact 689 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: that it's a good it's good read for me. And 690 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: I feel I'm a good father. But you know, I'm 691 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: like you. I'm in the business, so I know what 692 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Sometimes I was living in New York. 693 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes I raised my daughter over the phone. I got 694 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: some I got some baby talk on my leave voice 695 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: messages that I'm gonna give it to her one day. 696 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: And you're gonna probably make her cry when she was 697 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: just talking and leave messages on my She's never just know. 698 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: I got my thirty of those when you hate daddy, 699 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: my daddy, you know, all through it's like one through 700 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: one through five of her just leaving messages on my phone. 701 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: I was able to capture them and put them on CD. 702 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give them to him one day because I 703 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: know what you're saying is that you know, it's important 704 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: to try to be your father. More important, it's important 705 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: to try to be a father who's responsible to the 706 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: to the activity of giving your child the advice, the 707 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: guidance because there's so many things special with social media. 708 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, Alma. You know you 709 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: you're you're, you're, you're, you're superstar dude. You you know, 710 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: you're celebrit recognizable talent. You on television all the time, 711 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: your movies all the time, and so your children are 712 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: impacted by that, and so that means that you have 713 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: the guide them. Like you said, like you said, your 714 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: older daughter knew knew you want the doctor on the house. 715 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: You're the kid they just over They're just looking at 716 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: Danny TV, Daddy l TV, you know, so so it 717 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: really when you start breaking down your life, you have 718 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: to understand that the value of the way you're a 719 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: truck driver, work for ups, all your cook all of 720 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: it comes back to being a father who has time 721 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: for their child, right then father who makes time. And 722 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: I think one of the you know, I know, for me, uh, 723 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: the biggest uh, one of the biggest things my mother 724 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: instilled to me from a young age was a sense 725 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: of self worth. And I think that you know, as parents, 726 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest things we can instill in 727 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: our children is that they are worthy um. Because when 728 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: when the child grows up with that sense um, a 729 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: lot of the peer pressures and the environmental things, they're 730 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: less likely to partake in those things because they they 731 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: feel worth, They feel worthy, they feel love, that they 732 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: belong to a a familiar tribe that you know, that 733 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: they have a work end um. A lot of these 734 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: kids that go wayward, and it's a lot of different reasons, 735 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, but I'm just trying to go to the 736 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: root of it. A lot of these kids don't feel valued. No, 737 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: I feel worthy. They feel like, well, you know, it 738 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: don't matter if I ain't here tomorrow because don't nobody care, 739 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, and and and so you know again going 740 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: back to that active piece. You know, that's it's that's 741 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: the most important thing. It's deep, man, it's really deep. 742 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: I want to do one more quote from your book 743 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: far before we end this conversation about your book, From 744 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: Fatherless to Fatherhood, written by all my help, the comic 745 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: comedic genius Chris Rock made a profound statement about fatherhood 746 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: doing one of his performances. He said, whenever our father 747 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: boast about taking care of his kids, people response should be, 748 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: you're supposed to take care of your kids, right right. 749 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I'll tell you, Omar. I've been reading 750 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: this book for I'm telling you, man, you're messing women. Man, 751 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: you're messing women allmar. But if you look at that, 752 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: you know it's it's just the truth. But we have 753 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: gone to so many generations of having fatherless households that 754 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: it's normalized. So now of it you have, you know, 755 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: people who are stepping up to the their their fatherly duties. 756 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: You know, they want that extra pat on the back. 757 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: And let me and let me just say this too. 758 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: You know, within the African American community, we have made 759 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: incredible strides to the issues of family and things of 760 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: that nature. But and a lot of times, you know, 761 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: you hear people want to throw up certain statistics, and 762 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: it's that any other statistics are relative to whoever you're 763 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: poland one. But two, you know I'm in them treats, 764 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: and and that that cycle of fatherlessness is still an 765 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: epidemic in our community. So we just gotta be real 766 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 1: about what's real. And um so that you know, even 767 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: though I say that in the book, you know, using 768 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: that that that Chris Rock joke, which I thought was 769 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: just great, you know, I understand at the same time 770 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: why you know a man would want that credit so 771 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: many generations. And so it's like, yeah, they're trying to 772 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: and they bring in so absolute those brothers as well, 773 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: because you're breaking the cycle. With end of the day, 774 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: it's about breaking the cycles. He's a writer, he's a producer, entrepreneur, 775 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: he's been married to his wife over a decade and 776 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: he's dedicated father to his three children. Omar, thank you 777 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: for calling Money Making Conversations. Thank you, brother, it was 778 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: a great sorting. Keep winning. We'll be right back with 779 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: more from Marsan McDonald and Money Making conversations. Don't touch 780 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: that down. When I was an FBI agent, I was 781 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: aware of home title fraud. There was little we could 782 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: do to stop it. Now there's home title lock. 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So I have two 829 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: more sisters. One is U Sara p Anny. Uh. The 830 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: next one she's on the phone right now. My next 831 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: is the award winning creator of the Landmark Showtime Network 832 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 1: hit Soul Food, the series uh Television's first long running 833 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: drama featuring African Americans. Two of the most recent credits 834 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: conclude co executive producer of one of my favorite TV 835 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: shows on Netflix, Marvels The Punisher. That's a violent show. 836 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: That's a violent show. She knows you know, you know, 837 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: go creat an executive producer of the Quad that was 838 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: on b ET. She came into town and we we 839 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: went out and hung out. Get to hear a speech 840 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: speak over the emery in regards to the quad. Uh, 841 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: she's currently consulting producer on Empire that's on Fox and 842 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: as an overall development deal. What means I can know 843 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: she can take the out, she can please talking to 844 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: mother making conversation Felicia D. Henderson, you are truly a fool, 845 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: my brother. Well, well, first of all, first of all, 846 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's you know, to be this point place 847 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: in my life to be interviewing a family member that 848 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: is that has been so important to my life personally professionally. Um, 849 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: you know, we cried together, we laughed together, we shared 850 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: our success stories, and we've shared our frustrations in this 851 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: business over the years. Now it's the part that it 852 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: really got to meet when she started doing animation. Now 853 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: see see that that that wasn't the black folks world 854 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: right now they're doing animation. Now, how did you get 855 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: into animation? No? So okay, so this is what happened 856 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: in the comic books right right right? Yeah, But this 857 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: is the thing people don't know because who walks around 858 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 1: saying well, when I was a little girl, I was 859 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: a sickly little asthmatic who couldn't go outside. So that's 860 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: when I started reading comic books. So I loved comic 861 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 1: books my whole life. Like I was obsessed and still 862 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: is with Batman, Like Batman was everything because that was 863 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: he was my you know everything, and so truly just 864 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: starting to meet you know, you meet more people as 865 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: you do different kinds of shows. When I was UM 866 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 1: coming out of Gossip Girl and on Fringe. When UM, 867 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: I was first approached by d C Comics saying, hey, 868 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: we got this comic book that's about teens, but it's 869 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 1: still I FI and you just came off of a 870 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: teen show and now you're doing si Fy. How would 871 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: you like to write Team Titans? And for me, I 872 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: was like, that's an entry, you know I wanted, like 873 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: why not? You know, it's the thing I loved as 874 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: a kid. So I knew I couldn't do it full 875 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: times and it doesn't say it enough money, but I 876 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: knew that it would really know, I knew that it 877 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: would fulfill me creatively. So I loved it. I hope 878 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: to go back to it, you know, I really do. 879 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: I just got so busy, but I really hope to 880 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: go back to and even create my own comic books. 881 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a comic book right now to adapt 882 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: into a TV show, you know, under my newsbox deal. 883 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: That's one of my goals. And especially coming out as 884 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: a punisher, I'm like, yep, I love this. You know. 885 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: It's it's one that really adapted well all moments. You know, 886 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 1: you know Si Girl, when I came off with Gossip 887 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,919 Speaker 1: Girl and Teen Titans, teme, this is in movie theaters, okay, 888 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: time just in movie theaters, in movie theaters right now. 889 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: You know we did time. They weren't paying that enough 890 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: money because you know, because you can't checked that. I'm 891 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: just Rishan. Was just managed this, Steve Harve and that's 892 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 1: all I was doing. But you have that blowing up 893 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: and doing it well, might we at? You know. The 894 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: beauty of this, This is why I love about you 895 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 1: is that people always tell me Richard, you have reinvented 896 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: yourself so many times, and sometimes I just do it automatically, 897 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 1: and I don't like, I'm reinvented myself right now, hosting 898 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: just right, it's like it's time to it's time for 899 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 1: something new, and you can't be afraid of change. That's 900 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: what you and I know that people say what is 901 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 1: your secret. I'm like, you can't be afraid of change, 902 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: or you can be afraid, but you must act despite 903 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: your fear. She didn't you always have a feel, you know, like, 904 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: oh God, this is the time for a change, and 905 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: you'll just sit and wait past the moment that you 906 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: should have made a change. This is this is why 907 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 1: there was always laugh at me. There's alway laughing because 908 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 1: I would be in I'm writing, I can write, okay, right, 909 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: but but but but I always had something else going on. Yeah, 910 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 1: but you always have the side hustle. You all didn't 911 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: have to side. Yes, you know, I come back from 912 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: launch late. Yeah, like where you're doing, Oh oh, don't 913 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: make you better be happy? Sarah Penny Johnson isn't on 914 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: this call to talk about the time you came back 915 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: late from Launchester Parker's I was at meetings, y'all at 916 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: meetings to go create. Something else was that he was 917 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: at the bank and the bank got held up, and 918 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: so that's why he came, Oh my god over like 919 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 1: coming back to the park. And that started Monique at 920 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: the time and Dorian Wilson and and I was like 921 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: four hours late on four and moved deadline to this sariously, 922 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,479 Speaker 1: where you bet? I said, in my mind, I can't 923 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: say I've been at me. And she gave me this 924 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 1: opportunity bank robbery. Bank. I was a banking bank god 925 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: robbed and uh, he said, she said, I said it 926 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: said bank I rob what's your where? I said in 927 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: Baby Hills. I went in there and the guy said, 928 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: everybody down, and we got that. You come back to 929 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: work calmly with the story. And that's a testament how 930 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 1: much Sarah loves you, because she went okay and immediately 931 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: called me like, let me tell you that the live 932 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:43,240 Speaker 1: shot just told me. Even today she asked me about 933 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: that bank robbers toy Sean the bank robbers story, and 934 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: let's just explain Sarah fri Johnson creative, Moitia, creative, the Parkers, 935 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: an incredible writer, amazing family matters. That's what you met 936 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 1: Sarah on family matters. Correct. I met Sarah on family 937 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: matter as I met Sarah and Vi the Spirits, who 938 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 1: were they were writing partners at the time. But Sarah 939 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 1: mentored me my whole comedy career, and even when I 940 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: transitioned to drama. You know, um, she continued to mentor 941 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: me because she's the normal one and I'm the hothead. 942 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: So she's always been able to talk to me off 943 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: the ledgend when I got the opportunity, because she always 944 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: wanted to transition to drama. So when I did a 945 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: single Ladies for b Et, I, I called her and 946 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you're ready to do drama. And it's 947 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: such a pleasure, you know, when you can work with 948 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: your friends, Rashan as you know, there's no more joy 949 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: than working with your friends. And so we did that 950 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: together and then she did the Quad with me as well. 951 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: She's doing another show, another drama right now at the 952 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: T so she um, she's a drama writer now. But 953 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,280 Speaker 1: without that woman, I don't know where I'll be because 954 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:59,919 Speaker 1: she really taught me calm your ass down, mar Brock, Yes, yeah, 955 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: Kenya Burrows, come on now. Felicia Henderson, Okay, Felicia, don't 956 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: twist Rashean McDonald. You know what I'm saying that that 957 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: young lady has has really uh made an impact because 958 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: she she cares so much about everything. But the thing 959 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: about it, when I talked to Felicia, like, she don't 960 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 1: she's just slid right past j. J Abrams though, Yeah, 961 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: just slip right past, you know that moment working on Fox. 962 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, all the networks. So when 963 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: you when you look at your resume and your body 964 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: of work, you know, and like I said, the reason 965 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: I have you on the show because you are because 966 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, people are so aware of social media has 967 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,720 Speaker 1: made so many people wear and black people watch TV anyway, 968 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: So as your role of spokesperson changed because used to 969 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: just write your show and you executively created. But now 970 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: people know so much about you life. I just google 971 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 1: your name, picture of you pops up, you know. Inside. Yes, 972 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: it's different, isn't it? And you know, I just came back. 973 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: I did a panel at Comic Con and several interviews 974 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: down a Comic Con and San Diego, you know, for 975 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: The Punisher. But it's it's so interesting now everything is 976 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: so different. And every interview I did, and even as 977 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: I started the panel, they said, first, okay, let everyone 978 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 1: know your handles, Like that's where they start, Like, tell 979 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: everyone where they can find you on social media, which 980 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: side the way, and follow Felicia d mollow Felicia UM, 981 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter. But as I'm trying to lyrash and 982 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 1: so I'm such a private person, and as you know, 983 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm better one on one. I'm not a big party person. 984 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 1: I'd like to look at people, you know, one on 985 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: one and in your eyes, that's when I'm happy. Is 986 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: but it has changed and they're like, Okay, you have 987 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: to get out there, you gotta go. But I'm a writer. 988 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: My writing will speak for itself. They're like, no, everybody 989 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: knows what a showrunner is now. You can't just hide 990 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: behind the work. So it's like you've become more of 991 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: a public figure and people do know, like stuff a value. 992 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: You're like, where did you even know that? Well? You 993 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: know that interviews you did at it was it was 994 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 1: recorded and put up on YouTube. I'm like, really, because 995 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm also a very frank person, and I'm used to 996 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: being very frank and being very honest, and and you 997 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: have a moment now where you're like, Okay, I have 998 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: to edit myself with you because I don't you know 999 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: know where this is going to air or where this 1000 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be seen. And that you also know is 1001 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: that I'm also a professor at the University of Texas Austin, 1002 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: so I'm also a longhorn now, and you know, so 1003 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm like I get there. This is only my second 1004 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: year there. I get there and they're like, hey, so 1005 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: you did this this. I'm like, whoa, we just met, 1006 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 1: but you haven't just that because they got everybody in 1007 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: the studio. They're just shaking their head now. They just 1008 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: we just can't. They all just they don't. They don't 1009 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 1: know what raised me in this business. Now. You know 1010 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: when I'm sit down and not even know why. I 1011 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: had to tell people I was at a bank robbery. 1012 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: When I came back, they would not leave anything else. 1013 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: The funny part about the banquet, You're just still trying 1014 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: to justify that. I have to justify that because when 1015 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: everybody looked at me, they looked at me, you could 1016 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: see I was such a good story I'm a good 1017 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: story teller anyway. And I told him and I said, 1018 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: it's when the guy said, everybody down, I got damn. 1019 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: I was down? Who hours? Four hours? I was down? 1020 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: I was down. 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