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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a Monday edition of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, fresh off a long draft

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Speaker 1: stint this weekend, so excited to be with you to

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Speaker 1: break it all down. We've got plenty from the twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen NFL Draft. Now there are I don't say rumors,

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Speaker 1: but there have been a lot of stories out there

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Speaker 1: about undrafted free agents. A lot of people have been

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Speaker 1: asking me, Hey, when do we hear about the undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agents? When's that gonna come out the I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna wait for the official announcement. Players are gonna

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Speaker 1: come in and take physicals and all that. That's when

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Speaker 1: the team will officially report the undrafted signings. So we

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Speaker 1: may talk about guys that we have seen on social media.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's the way people are announcing them now.

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Speaker 1: Some universities are announcing where their players are going. We've

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Speaker 1: seen kJ Malone, the son of Karl Malone, offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: a LSU. He has I've seen numerous places where he

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Speaker 1: assigned with the Texans. I will give you a bit

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Speaker 1: of cautiens sense. There were a couple of people that

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Speaker 1: I wrote about last year. I remember writing about them

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Speaker 1: in the lead up from draft Day to the time

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Speaker 1: the rookie showed up. I was excited about a safety.

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Speaker 1: I think he was at UCF maybe, and then he

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Speaker 1: wasn't here. Well where did he go? Did he fail

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Speaker 1: of physical? So anyhow, there will be some names. One

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Speaker 1: in particular that I know was the talk of the

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Speaker 1: draft twitter world, Vincent Smith on a limestone. Yeah, limestone.

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Speaker 1: He worked out of South Carolina Pro Day and after

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Speaker 1: he blazed the track his wide receiver Bill there was

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Speaker 1: a picture of him talking to Bill Belichick and that

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Speaker 1: sent draft Twitter into a frenzy. They went crazy, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Smith started getting he said,

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Speaker 1: the NFL on a frenzy too. He's seen, went on

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Speaker 1: visits everywhere, didn't get drafted. But it does appear he

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Speaker 1: has signed with Houston Texas. Now all those undrafteds, like

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Speaker 1: I said it will be, it appears he assigned. He

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Speaker 1: allegedly assigned. He apparently has signed. Another thing will become

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Speaker 1: official until the rookies do show up for mini camp,

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Speaker 1: which is this week. It's gonna be next week, so

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Speaker 1: that'll come the official award from the Texans. But we

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Speaker 1: do know that eight individuals have been drafted, by the

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Speaker 1: Texans in twenty eighteen, and we'll spend some time talking

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Speaker 1: about those. Drew Dory's gonna join me in the next

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Speaker 1: segment to talk about the thoughts, starting with Justin Reid,

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Speaker 1: finishing with Jermaine Kelly Junior. So we'll talk about all

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Speaker 1: those players, which ones we liked, which ones we think

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Speaker 1: can make an immediate impact. I just thirty seconds quickly

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Speaker 1: before we get to GM Brian Gaine. I felt good

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Speaker 1: about this draft. And you never know what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: at sixty eight, but I actually felt okay about it

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Speaker 1: because I always feel like there's gonna be a couple

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Speaker 1: of players that you feel like teams are going to

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Speaker 1: they're gonna reach for, and that just pushes another couple

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Speaker 1: of good players down, and then they do it again,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you've got maybe seven eight

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Speaker 1: good players sitting there staring in the face at sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: And of course the Texans ended up taking Justin Reid.

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Speaker 1: I thought they did a way of a job satisfying needs,

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Speaker 1: but also doing it in a way that they were

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Speaker 1: looking to do longer, stronger, faster. I think they were

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Speaker 1: able to do that at every position in the draft

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Speaker 1: that they looked at. I mean, Duke Edge four. You

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Speaker 1: watch him, He's got arms for days. A sixth rounder,

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Speaker 1: A guy I probably would have gone late as late

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Speaker 1: or as early as the fourth round, even the third round.

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Speaker 1: I had a fourth round grade at him. I thought

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Speaker 1: I thought there's no chance of Texas would get him.

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Speaker 1: I saw his name pop up on the board. I

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Speaker 1: was shocked. And he's an a Leaf Taylor homeboy. So

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Speaker 1: good to keep the local flavor here we got. And

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Speaker 1: I like the the I like the symmetry to it.

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Speaker 1: Two players from Stanford Justin Reid, Peter Comby, two players

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Speaker 1: from the state of Texas Kekey Qt Duke, two players

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Speaker 1: from Mississippi State Jordan Thomas at tight end and Martinez

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Speaker 1: You want to you want to put it. I love

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Speaker 1: symmetry to a draft in this draft had a little

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Speaker 1: they know players obviously, Justin Reid and Peter Collambody they

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Speaker 1: head coach Bill O'Brien, who we talked to Saturday after

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Speaker 1: the draft, so it'll be our final segments. You want

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Speaker 1: to say. He joined us live on the Draft Show,

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Speaker 1: which hopefully you were able to catch on Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: six ten. We had you covered each day. Thursday, Andrea

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Speaker 1: came in here and that was fun. Andre Ware, myself,

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandamer handled the first night of the draft. Friday

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Speaker 1: night we had our draft party. Mike Meltzer joined, marking myself.

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Speaker 1: Then on Saturday, I did it with Sean in the

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandam and Paul Gallant. Had a great time with

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Speaker 1: all the guys from Sports Radio six ten, and of

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Speaker 1: course Drey coming over here doing his first draft show.

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Speaker 1: That was a blast. It was awesome to see Trey.

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Speaker 1: He was sitting in the middle of us and at

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Speaker 1: some point he kind of nudged me and showed me

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Speaker 1: his phone and he was texting with Lamar Jackson, just

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Speaker 1: telling him stay strong man, hanging there, It'll be okay,

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Speaker 1: and Lamar texted them back. They got a pretty good relationship.

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Speaker 1: So I was glad to see Lamar going the first round.

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Speaker 1: We're both big fans of his obviously, because Drey has

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Speaker 1: that Heisman Trophy connection. That's way they've known each other. Me.

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Speaker 1: I just think he can I can play, and I

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Speaker 1: think Baltimore Ravens got a really nice pick there. And

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Speaker 1: Ozzie Nuwsom's last draft, which, by the way, not to

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Speaker 1: prop up anybody else, but Baltimore Ravens have video of

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Speaker 1: Ozzie making a call and making his last pick and

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Speaker 1: admit that was pretty cool video, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of videos, we got all kinds of stuff for

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Speaker 1: you up on Houston Texans dot com. We had our

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Speaker 1: draft special last night, so there will be snippets coming

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Speaker 1: out of that that will be on our web site

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Speaker 1: also at Houston Texans. I'm sure it's on Instagram. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it's on Snapchat and all that other stuff. I

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Speaker 1: just I'm on Twitter, so you can go check out

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Speaker 1: some stuff that Drew and I filmed right after the

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Speaker 1: draft special on Sunday. All right, Scott, let's talk to

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Speaker 1: first draft sitting in the big chair. Now, he's been

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Speaker 1: in plenty of drafts, but he was asked for right

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Speaker 1: after bat. What was it like your first draft as

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Speaker 1: general manager? Exciting? I call it a partnership with coach O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: great process as it relates to what we put in

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Speaker 1: as well as the medical everybody coming together working together

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Speaker 1: would describe it as a great team effort. John. On

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Speaker 1: Day three, the drafted Texas were drafting three picks in

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Speaker 1: they chose Key Key QT wide receiver Texas Tech inside

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Speaker 1: West is a graduate of Texas Tech and played football there,

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Speaker 1: but he end both John Perry spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: time evaluating Kei Ki Kuti as well as coach Seely

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Speaker 1: We wanted to make a conscious effort of adding speed, athleticism,

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Speaker 1: then doing that with another slot receiver who we think

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Speaker 1: that's where the NFL has gotten to. It's segmented inside outside.

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Speaker 1: they don't look anything alike. One's outside, one's inside. But

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Speaker 1: of times where Draft weekend, Keky's a little different because

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Speaker 1: Brian Gain had to say about Mississippi States Jordan Thomas. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's an interesting developmental prospect. Number one for the body type.

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Speaker 1: the time spent with Jordan through the off season, through

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Speaker 1: the body type, but number two the want to jot.

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Speaker 1: you're not interested in blocking. The want to he wants

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Speaker 1: the secondary. Were you surprised that they went secondary? Not

429
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Speaker 1: a true corner more inside corner slash safety, And a

430
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Speaker 1: lot of people have tried to just say safety, but

431
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Speaker 1: I have tried to cut that off and say, look,

432
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Speaker 1: he's fifty fifty inside corner safety. That was just kind

433
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Speaker 1: of playbreakdown at Stanford. Were you a little surprised that

434
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Speaker 1: they went with Justin Reid or do you feel like

435
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: that was the best available player that does still faited

436
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Speaker 1: for this team. I think no, it was not surprised

437
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Speaker 1: because he was so good and so highly talented that

438
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 1: for him to be there was a bit surprising, I

439
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Speaker 1: think for some people. But I think it's a good

440
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Speaker 1: I know you're talking about how he's not a pure

441
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Speaker 1: safety and you got a kind of classify him, but

442
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: still think about it. In this franchise's history. What's the

443
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: highest safety the Texans ever taken? DJ Swaringer in the

444
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: second round? Yeah, okay, he didn't work out, and they

445
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: made an emphasis on getting better there. They thought when

446
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 1: they tried to get ad read and that backfired and

447
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: in the process the best safety you ever really had

448
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: probably was gold Over Quinn. You let him walk away.

449
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: Glover's got about twenty five career interceptions right now, the

450
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: franchise leader interception co leaders are at thirteen apiece J

451
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 1: Joe and Kareem Jackson. So you saw what happened. So

452
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Speaker 1: I think getting a safety slash inside corner and putting

453
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Speaker 1: an emphasis there is pretty important because you did it

454
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Speaker 1: with Tyrann Matthew, and you had a guy who started

455
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Speaker 1: for you quite a bit and Andre Howe. So you're

456
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: just raising that level of competition. And Andrea was a corner.

457
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: You gotta remember that he was drafted out of Vandy

458
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Speaker 1: as a corner, so he's a converted safety. I just

459
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Speaker 1: I like it. You know, let's let's get that back

460
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 1: end a lot better, because I think you could probably

461
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 1: say it was below average the last few years, and

462
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: now I think you're you're looking at it above average

463
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: back end with these additions that we've seen. Yeah, to

464
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Speaker 1: that end, and I know you you would say this,

465
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Speaker 1: as long as everybody stays healthy back the course. Yeah yeah,

466
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: and that was something that in the secondary last year

467
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: seemingly people did for the most part, but I think

468
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: and they got exposed to by lack of a pass

469
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: rode abolutely not much else. Yeah, so you gotta always

470
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: put that back into consideration too. Yeah, it's funny you

471
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Speaker 1: talk about You mentioned Glover Quinn and you brought him

472
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Speaker 1: up Glower Starter's career as a corner as well. But

473
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Speaker 1: I remember watching him when he was in New Mexico.

474
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Speaker 1: I remember thinking he's a safety, he would be exactly

475
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Speaker 1: not a little bit shorter, but maybe a little bit

476
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: more stout than Justin Reid. Justin's longer, more angular than

477
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: than Glover Glower a little shorter, a little squattier, but

478
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: Glover is essentially Justin Reid. But back then we didn't

479
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Speaker 1: really talk too much about the inside two years there.

480
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: It took him two years. He was a corner for

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Speaker 1: his first two years, and then it came. It took

482
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Speaker 1: Wade Phillips getting here to move him over the safe

483
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: right and that was that was the best movie that

484
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Speaker 1: could ever happened Globe, and probably should have happen earlier.

485
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: But he back then you didn't play an inside corner

486
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: nearly as much as you're playing on now. So he

487
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: just moved out to corner and then then struggled and

488
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a struggle. But then when he

489
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Speaker 1: moved into safety, it was like, oh man, this fits,

490
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: this fits pretty darn good. So, yeah, these rookies are

491
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Speaker 1: going to end up having some ups and downs at

492
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Speaker 1: certain points. Some news came out today, Drew, I don't

493
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Speaker 1: know that I mentioned this in the first segment. Alfred

494
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Speaker 1: Blue coming back to the team now that has not

495
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: been made official, but we've seen numerous reports on Monday

496
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Speaker 1: morning Alfred Blue signing a one year contract to come

497
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Speaker 1: back to the Texans. I actually thought that might be

498
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Speaker 1: the case. But I think there are a couple of

499
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Speaker 1: things that I look at that. Number One, Alfred played

500
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Speaker 1: at all special teams. Secondly, were times last year where

501
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: Alfred was the best running back you had just ran

502
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Speaker 1: his guts out at certain points. And the other one

503
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: is in bringing Alfred and not in bringing Alfred Blue back.

504
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: They didn't draft or signed a running back. I think

505
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Speaker 1: they signed one as an undrafted free agent. That official list,

506
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: we won't know, well, we won't be able to discuss

507
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: it until later in the week, got physicals, all that.

508
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: But they didn't draft a running back, right. I think

509
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Speaker 1: that I kind of was. I know some people were,

510
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: what are they doing that drafting and running back? My

511
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: first thought was, well, maybe Danta Foreman's further along in

512
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: his rehab than everybody thinks. And you still have Tyler Irvin,

513
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: who he was moved around, but he's still a running absolutely.

514
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Speaker 1: So you have Foreman, you have Miller, you have Irvin.

515
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Speaker 1: You bring Blue back. Obviously, the one change in the

516
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Speaker 1: room is Danny Barrett, the running backs coach bringing it

517
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Speaker 1: who I love by the way, he came into an

518
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: interview with me right after the Senior Bowl and it

519
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: was fun to talk to him. He's from the same

520
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Speaker 1: hometown as Lamar Jackson. So that said, the running back

521
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Speaker 1: room with Alfred Blue added to the mix on a

522
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Speaker 1: one year contract. Look, I said this, and this is

523
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Speaker 1: one thing we say every year, but it feels like

524
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Speaker 1: this year it's becoming even more important to say that

525
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Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that just because Alfred's back, that he

526
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Speaker 1: ends up making the roster. I mean, there are people

527
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: thought the last couple of years he wasn't gonna make it.

528
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Speaker 1: But bringing him back they have a certain purpose of mind.

529
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Speaker 1: But if it doesn't fit, maybe if an undrafted rookie

530
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Speaker 1: steps up, they don't expect away. You go, yeah, maybe

531
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Speaker 1: there's some other positions that things are a little bit

532
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: stronger to other positions, and they just have to have

533
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: certain guys. Tyler Irvan is back to one hundred percent

534
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and he's back to the role that we think he's

535
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna fill. Maybe it doesn't make it, so you know,

536
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: I know people in the handwringing and what do you

537
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: do that You gotta you gotta down your expectations. This

538
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: is the depth move. This is not right. Hey, Alfred's

539
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: the first running back on the roster. I mean he's

540
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: no higher than third, really, And it's more about special

541
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Speaker 1: teams with Alfred. I mean, yet he's been one of

542
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Speaker 1: the kind of solid contributors over the last few years

543
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: when the Texans have been down on special teams, I

544
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: would say, but he's kind of been one of the

545
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: better performers there. It's more about that, I think than

546
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: anything that's that's keeping around. It's like you said, I

547
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: think it's a very coaching point. There's gonna be some

548
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: competition at that spot this year. I think he's gonna be.

549
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a competition a lot of

550
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: spots that Yeah. Maybe I think the secondary is gonna

551
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: be a well of competition. I think training camp trying

552
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: to figure out what the starting five is gonna be.

553
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: On the offensive line, yep, I think running back reps.

554
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Speaker 1: I think being on the guys that are gonna be

555
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: in the mix to get the football. But how is

556
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: the rep mix? You just being out? You just slid

557
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: in the offensive line. I see that right now as

558
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: a big old soup. I mean, I don't know that.

559
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: Can you really for sure? No, not at this point

560
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: say that this guy's gonna start at this spot. I

561
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: mean probably Nick Martin at center, but but I could

562
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Speaker 1: see I could see a move to guard, you know, yeah,

563
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: but they think probably Julian Devin Port a left tackle.

564
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: But how good is Martinez ranking? Yep? Does he beat

565
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: him out? It's there's just a big soup. But I

566
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: do know this, the level of talent on the whole

567
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: has been has been upgraded. There. It's better, that's exactly,

568
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: and you're gonna you're gonna shuffle it out and you'll

569
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: see from there. That's a great point. And I think

570
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: because we haven't seen Fulton, Kellumette, Henderson, yeah, ranking in

571
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: Texans jerseys and seeing what they're able to do, and

572
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: we're not gonna know, we're not, we're gonna see ago whatever.

573
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: But once they put the pads on, we'll be able

574
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: to figure out. Okay, I think this guy's gonna slide here.

575
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: And look, once we get the OTAs, you start seeing okay,

576
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: here's the first offensive line and what they think. And

577
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: then the other thing is Nick how healthy is Nick

578
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 1: exactly is he able to do anything in OTAs? If

579
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: he isn't, then the za Zach Fulton, then play center,

580
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, David, where does Kyle fully fit

581
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: into this guy that played third tight end reps or

582
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: tight end reps last year, did get some time at guard?

583
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: Where does he fit into all this? So you're I

584
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: think you're right when you use the term soup. It's

585
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: more like a Buoya base. A lot of things in

586
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: that Booya Bass Blue base. A soup or a stew

587
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: is a stew. A soup is a soup a stew.

588
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just going off the page here.

589
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: I think a stew is a little bit thicker. I

590
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: think so too. What's offensive line? So it's gotta be

591
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: let's call it a ste Let's called a stew. I

592
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: like it. Base, Drew appreciate. Always always always fun. We

593
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: get back the head coach, it's always Texans Bill O'Brien.

594
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: He joined us Saturday after the draft is over to

595
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: give his give us his thoughts on the draft process.

596
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: That and then some with the head coach, Bill O'Brien.

597
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Next right here in Texans All Access one final segment

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Speaker 1: of Texans All Access. This evening, I'm your host, John Harris.

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Speaker 1: We are about to turn it over to head coach

600
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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. He joined myself, Paul Golant, and Mark VanderMeer.

601
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: Right after the draft is over. We talked about the picks,

602
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: the process, and anything else that went into the twenty

603
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: eighteen NFL Draft. There's really no way you can kind

604
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: of play out the scenarios of what's going to happen

605
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: to get you to sixty eight. Now you can if

606
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Speaker 1: you've got a top ten pick, maybe even a top

607
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: fifteen pick, but you can't play out the scenarios of

608
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: what could happen prepared for something like that. So at

609
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: that point, it seems like you just have to trust

610
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: your board and trust the work you've done at sixty eight,

611
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: no matter what pops up. If that's our guy at

612
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: the top, we gotta go with him. What was kind

613
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: of the thought process behind justin that first pick, because

614
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: we talked about tackle It could be this guy could

615
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: be that guy. But you really have to trust your

616
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: board to that extent because you don't know what's gonna

617
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: happen up to that point that far in a draft. Yeah,

618
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Speaker 1: I think The big thing was after the first and

619
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: second rounds. You know, you go in there and you

620
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: basically reset the board. Yeah, so you look at it

621
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: again and obviously take the guys off that have been drafted,

622
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: and then you see where it's at, just like you said,

623
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Speaker 1: And when we were up for that pick, it's at

624
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: sixty eight. Justin Reid was right there at the top,

625
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: and uh, we all felt really good about him. Very

626
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: intelligent player, really good measurables. Uh six foot guy, two

627
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: hundred pound guy, can really run, can help us obviously

628
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: on defense, can help us on special teams, and uh,

629
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Speaker 1: you know, we felt really good about that pick. And

630
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: it was it wasn't really a situation in that particular

631
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: one where you know, sometimes you have three or four

632
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: guys all about even and then you're you're looking at

633
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: the value and all those things. But uh, you know,

634
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: when it's when it's that guy at the top of

635
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: that round, you know where you're picking. That was. That

636
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: was kind of a one where the board speaks to you.

637
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: So that was a that was a really good part

638
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: of the process. It looks like speed was that priority

639
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: on offense. You bring in Atkins, you bring in Cutie

640
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Speaker 1: and of course Thomas there. So that's something you guys

641
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Speaker 1: are trying to add more to the offense this offseason. Yeah,

642
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think as a team, uh really,

643
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: with the whole team, Paul, we really thought that that

644
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: speed was something that we were gonna look at. You know,

645
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: if if a guy had a dominant trade of being

646
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: able to run relative to this position, you know, we

647
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: felt like that was something that would be definitely part

648
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: of our evaluation. Now, it doesn't mean that you're just

649
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: taking a guy just because he runs a sub four

650
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: or five, or just because he's a tight end that

651
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: runs a sub four seven or whatever it is. It

652
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: also has to be the whole body of work of

653
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: that player and relative to how you're going to use

654
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: them in your offense or on your defense, or you know,

655
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: on special teams. But I do think that speed was

656
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: a priority. He felt like we we wanted to try

657
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: to get faster out of the draft as a team,

658
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: and I think obviously with those offensive picks. You know,

659
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 1: kut On, he's a very very fast guy. He's got

660
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: good quickness too, but really fast. And then uh, Aiken's

661
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: at that f tight end position. We feel like he's

662
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: got good speed and good quickness for that position too. Coach,

663
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: looking at the highlights for QT, and that's all I've

664
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: seen so far. But it looks like he can run

665
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff you'd like to run, the

666
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: end of rounds and things in the Watson type offense

667
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: that you've been running him the Vandermere official like the

668
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: faker row and the flippity floppy. Yeah, these are football terms.

669
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: So you guys are running all that Harlem Globe produers

670
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: stuff and and he can do that. Yeah, he didn't

671
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: know he was. He was a guy that we spent

672
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of time with. You know, we spent a

673
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: lot of time with him at his school, uh, Texas Tech.

674
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time with him here in

675
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: the building, and we felt really good about what he knew,

676
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: his work ethic, the type of guy he was. We

677
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: liked what we saw in film. Uh. We tested him

678
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: on some of the things that we would do with

679
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: him and he and he passed it with flying colors.

680
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: And he was another guy that was sitting there and

681
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: there were other guys there, really good players at that

682
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: It looked like the bulk of a lot of the

683
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: good players were in those mental rounds, and so there

684
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: were some tough decisions, but I really feel like with

685
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: with Kiki, we've really improved and added an explosiveness and

686
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: h you know, a speed element to our team, and

687
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: I think that's going to really help us coach. What's

688
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: the most difficult thing about a player? Maybe not making

689
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: a full transition, but Jordan Thomas played a lot of

690
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: receiver at Missippi State, somewhat out of necessity because they

691
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: had everybody and their brother go down, But he's playing

692
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: a lot of receiver. I mean, we're sitting there watching

693
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: a bowl game and he's out there catching passes, running route.

694
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: What's the most difficult thing about making a transition to

695
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: a different position where now he's got to get in there,

696
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: He's got to block some of these defensive ends you

697
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: got to face this year outside linebackers. How tough is

698
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: that going to be for a guy like Jordan Thomas?

699
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: Definitely tough. Definitely a tough transition. We spent a lot

700
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: of time with him. We went to Mississippi State, Mike

701
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: Devon went, we worked out Rank and we worked out Jordan.

702
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: We spent time with those guys, felt really good about

703
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: what they were as as men. And what they were

704
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: as their ability to learn, and then went out on

705
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: the field and did some things with him, and we

706
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: feel good about where he's at and how you know,

707
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: basically his upside, you know, can he do these things?

708
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: What does is he a heavy handed player? Can he do?

709
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: We feel like he can, you know, get his hands

710
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: on somebody with the proper teaching and the proper steps

711
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: and footwork and really be able to block and so

712
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: we think it. Look, it's not gonna be easy. He's

713
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of time into it, but you know,

714
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: we felt very very good about his ability to do

715
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: that and be able to execute some of the things

716
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: we need to do in the running game. Rankin's listed

717
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: as a center on the website. I'm looking at he's

718
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: a guard attackle I know, Brian Gay last night said

719
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: he's an offensive lineman, so real generic with it. So

720
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: he's the guy I imagine you're bringing in with all

721
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: these other players, only one offensive lineman in the draft.

722
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Does that reflective how you feel about the free agents

723
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: that you guys brought in. Yeah, we felt like, you know,

724
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: we added some really good guys in free agency. Um,

725
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, we feel good about where we are with

726
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: the line right now. We went into this draft, you

727
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: know again, you know, really when it came to all

728
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: the positions, but you know, specifically on the offensive line,

729
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: the best available at that time for us, and versatility

730
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: is big. So you know, we feel like Rankin can

731
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: play tackle. We feel like he can play guard, and

732
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: he did snap some in practice when he was there

733
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: in Mississippi State, so we feel good about his versatility.

734
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: You know, maybe he's not the prototypical six foot seven

735
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: tackle or six foot six tackle, but he does do

736
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: some really good things at tackle relative to what we

737
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: do in our offense. You know, some of the pulling

738
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: and you know, pulling out on screens and pulling on

739
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: tackle plays and things like that. So we feel we

740
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: feel good about him. We felt we felt like he

741
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: was an all day tough player, you know, a guy

742
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: that was a very tough kid and a smart guy,

743
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: and we're glad to have him coach. We had Calum

744
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: Bayi on the air, we had Kelly on the air.

745
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: They talked about visiting. We also talked to Thomas and

746
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: you just talked about spending time with him and that

747
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: aspect of it having these guys in for visits spending

748
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: time with getting to know them, not just at the combine,

749
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: but wherever else you can. How important is that to

750
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: the whole process. Yeah, that's vital, Vanny. I mean I

751
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: think that, you know, that's to me, that's always the

752
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: big difference that I've come to learn. And you're you're

753
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: always trying to get better at this process and do

754
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: your part in the process. And one of the things

755
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: that I've learned is you can spend a whole lot

756
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: more time with these guys in the draft than you

757
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: do in free agency, you know. And I think that

758
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: in the draft, you know, you really have a chance

759
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: to to get to know the person, you know, to

760
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: really understand like how he thinks, what motivates him, you know,

761
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: where he comes from, family background, some of those things.

762
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: And then obviously you can work him out, you know,

763
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: And I think that's a big thing, you know, being

764
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: able to have your coaches there working the guy out.

765
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: You know, what type of shape is he and can

766
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: he learn if I teach him this very quickly, is

767
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: he able to execute those steps and to execute you know,

768
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: what we're asking to do at that position, you know,

769
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: on the field, even though it's you know, just a workout.

770
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: It's not in pads or anything like that, but it's

771
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: a it's a workout. And I think that's a big

772
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: part of the draft, that that our coaches do a

773
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: really good job with building off of that, the opportunity

774
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: to go to mobile Jordan nakens you draft him. How

775
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: value was that? Because that goes to another degree, that's

776
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: how does he in meetings? How does he take your

777
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: teaching on the practice field? How important was that aspect?

778
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: And I know you said and none of us want

779
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: to see you ever coach and Senior Bowl again, but

780
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: how important was that to the process for him? Considering

781
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: you guys worked that week with him? That was big.

782
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: That was why, you know, when the NFL called us

783
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: and said, hey, would you like to do it? I mean,

784
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: we didn't have to do the Senior Bowl, but when

785
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: they said, you know, would you like to do it?

786
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: We said, you know what, that's a great opportunity for us,

787
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, another another opportunity to go be around these guys,

788
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: like I was saying to Vandy, but even more than that,

789
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: actually coaching football. You know, here's our scheme all right

790
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: now here it is in the meeting. Let's go out

791
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: and walk through. Let's do it there and let's put

792
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: it to work in practice. And you know, we had

793
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that we looked at in

794
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: the draft at the Senior Bowl, and I think that

795
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: really helped us. Aikins is obviously a great example, because

796
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: we drafted him. You know, we felt like, hey, look,

797
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: this guy can do some of the things we're gonna

798
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: ask that position to do. And he got better and

799
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: better at it during the week, caught a touchdown passing

800
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: the game, and uh, you know, we feel good about that.

801
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: And I think that, uh, you know, being at the

802
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl with the guy really helped us some of

803
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: the enthusiasm. These guys that we've had on the air

804
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: has been really fun to listen to. In particular Jermaine Kelly,

805
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: who came onto the very end. He was he seemed

806
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: like he was ready to run from where was he

807
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: in San Jose? Run all the way from San Jose rights, Yeah,

808
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: some of the West because he said he was outside

809
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: it was cold and all that. So I imagine when

810
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: you guys sit down with these players, that's the thing

811
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: that you're looking for. Is this guy football crazy. He's

812
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: been of a football psycho, of sorts. That's big, Paul.

813
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have to have a love

814
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: and a passion for the game. And you can really,

815
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: you know, you can really sense that when you talk

816
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: to him. You know, like if they don't have a

817
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: passion for it, it's it's a very dull conversation. But

818
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: if they have it now they don't have to be

819
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, jumping up and down doing handstands in front

820
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: of you. But you know, they really enjoy talking about

821
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: the game and what they did in college. And Kelly's

822
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: a guy that, uh, you know, Brad Seely felt very

823
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: good about relative to special teams, and uh, Anthony Midgett

824
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: felt good about his ability to develop as a corner

825
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: and he had really good speed, good size, and he

826
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: had a passion for the game. And we feel, we

827
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: feel like he's a he's a good day into our

828
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: team to tell us about the process now and getting

829
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: these guys acclimated because they're rookies, they're drafted. Everybody's happy

830
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: and now they've got to get it to the building.

831
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: You gotta put them to work. You know. In some ways,

832
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: the draft is probably three of the most overhyped days,

833
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: you know in sports. You know, it is what it is.

834
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's but it is a great you know,

835
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: I understand it for the fans, and I think it

836
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: is great when you add you know, you add eight

837
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: players to to your organization. I mean that's a very

838
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: exciting thing. Like, don't get me wrong, But again, there's

839
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: so much work ahead of these guys, and I think

840
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: that's when when they enter the building, it's right away

841
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: setting the expectations of what we're all about, you know,

842
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: you know, simple things like being on time, taking care

843
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: of your body in the weight room and the cafeteria. Now,

844
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: you know, we have a new new UH sports performance coach,

845
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: We've got a new nutritionist, We've got a lot of

846
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: people around the building now, a lot of resources. We've

847
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: got a team counselor, We've got JJ Moses here. Now,

848
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of people to help these guys.

849
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously our expectations for them as

850
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: players and what we're trying to do as a team,

851
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, being a good teammate, standing your role, all

852
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: those things. You know, you start really talking to these

853
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: guys about that when they when they come here for

854
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, for rookie meniicamp, which I think is like

855
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: May tenth or whatever. So it's a fun time though,

856
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: because it's really a team building time, and you know

857
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: they'll go through their ups and downs early on. You

858
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: know they'll go through some tough days. But if they

859
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: can just keep kind of grinding and climbing the wall,

860
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: you know, they'll they'll be putting one foot in front

861
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: of the other. Take it one day at a time.

862
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: They'll they'll be all right. How I don't want to

863
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: use the word frustrated. I don't think you're frustrated. But

864
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: it was Thursday sort of a surreal night to not

865
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: have a pick. I mean, we all know why you

866
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: didn't have a pick, but was it kind of weird

867
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: to sit there and go, we're not really doing anything tonight.

868
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: We kind of watch it like what did you do

869
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: on Thursday night? What was going on? We're just kind

870
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: of watching taking guys off the board, kind of playing

871
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: things out, talking about what was going on. What were

872
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: kind of doing on Thursday night. I mean it's a

873
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: little different that, you know, first time for me being

874
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: here that we didn't have a first round pick, but

875
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, Deshaun Watson was our first round pick, you know,

876
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: so I think the biggest thing for us, Johnny that

877
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: I always telling you. I've said this to you a

878
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: lot of times before. It's really important for us to

879
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: see who is who is getting picked, and which teams

880
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: are picking them, and you know, relative to our division

881
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: and relative to the AFC and things like that, like

882
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: what or our future opponents like who who is who

883
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: are they picking? And how do we think they're going

884
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: to use these guys. That's that's where you put a

885
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: lot of thought into to that and really pay attention

886
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: to it. And then obviously, you know, like I said before,

887
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's a part of resetting the board. Okay,

888
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: these guys are off. Okay, they're they're gone, they're on

889
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: other teams. Now we have to focus on the second round.

890
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: We're not there either, But you know, we kept resetting

891
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: it and talking about how these different teams would use

892
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: these players. In our minds. You got a lot of

893
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: guys on the offensive line, a lot of guys at

894
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: tight end right now, and obviously some changes can happen

895
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: in at the defensive backs. I imagine going into training

896
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: camp seeing all these guys competing against one another. You're

897
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: looking forward to that, but at the same time, giving

898
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: reps out to all those guys too. Is that going

899
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: to be difficult to determine? It always is tough. I mean,

900
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: we have to get to a ninety man roster at

901
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: some point after rookie Mini Camp, we have to get

902
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: down to a ninety man roster, and I think that's

903
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: always a tough assignment for Brian and I. You know,

904
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: that's where we're trying to predict the future of some

905
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: of these guys. You know, obviously maybe there's some guys

906
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: that we've worked with that maybe you know, we would

907
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: have to move on from to get to that ninety

908
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: That's always tough. But you know, when you think about

909
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: the reps, you really have to be precise about how

910
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: you're using the guy, how many reps he's getting. And

911
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: you can never really have a wasted rep. You know,

912
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: you can't take a guy that you had a vision

913
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: for and start using them somewhere else right away. I mean,

914
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: that's not the route you want to go. So you

915
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: spend a lot of man hours with the coaching staff

916
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 1: on Hey, look, this is how many plays we're gonna

917
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: have in this ota, this is how we're using this guy.

918
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: Let's get him in here for these two or three

919
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: plays in this period, these two or three plays in

920
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: this other period, and it takes a lot of time,

921
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: but it's fun. You know. It's all part of that

922
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: team building and trying to evaluate how you would use

923
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: these guys and having a vision for it before you

924
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: even start as important one more for your coach and

925
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: maybe double edged question here because you have the draft

926
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: right in the middle of offseason conditioning and you mentioned

927
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: some of the changes here in the building and they're

928
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: big changes with the Sports Performance Center and everything like

929
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: that and the draft, and you're get everybody have to

930
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: speed for OTA. So what's it all been like for

931
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: you so far? It's a little different this year with

932
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: Brian Gaine and the whole thing. It's been great. I mean,

933
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun. I think you guys

934
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: probably feel a different energy in this building. You know,

935
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: we feel good about where we're at. We've had one

936
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: hundred percent attendance at the offseason program so far, which

937
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: is really good. I'm not sure how many teams can

938
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: say that, you know, I know it's a voluntary program,

939
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: but our guys are here, they're they're working out, and

940
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: primarily the time right now for our veteran players. It's

941
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: really about the sports performance program, the nutrition program, the

942
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: program in the training room, really taking care of their

943
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: bodies and learning how how we're doing that in a

944
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: different way. That's really what it is. And then we

945
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: do a little bit of football. We'll increase that a

946
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: little bit the next three weeks with some work on

947
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: the field, but it's still more about Luke and his crew,

948
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: and then you know Lad in the cafeteria, cap in

949
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: the training room. It's really about that. And then when

950
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: OTAs hits the last four weeks, that's when we'll take

951
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: over a little bit more football than then that'll be

952
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: a little bit you know, the sports performance end of

953
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: it will be a little bit less us. But I

954
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: think the first two weeks I've been very, very good.

955
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: The guys are very excited about what we're trying to

956
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: do and the vision that we have for you know,

957
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: helping them be at their peak. You know when we

958
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: open the season, are the coaches on the nutrition program too? Well,

959
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself. You know, I've tried

960
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: to I've tried to take the lessons that Lad has

961
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: taught me, because when he first got here, he looked

962
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: at me and said, you got you got major problems here.

963
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: We got to help you out. So now it's it's

964
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: been good, you know. And I think even for the

965
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: people in the building you can see the difference, and

966
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: I think it's, uh, it's been really good. And it's

967
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: been really a team effort here. You know, you're you're

968
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: talking about everybody, from the people that cook the meals um,

969
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, to to all around. You know. I just

970
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: think it's been it's been a team effort to really

971
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: change the vision of certain things that we're doing. Coach

972
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Obriant with a little self deprecating attitude there at the end,

973
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: talking about nutrition. Obviously a new thing going on here

974
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: with the Texans, a lot of changes in house to nutrition,

975
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: the sports performance center, etc. Hopefully it's gonna pay off

976
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: in more wins for this team going forward, not just

977
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, but in the future as well. Big thanks

978
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: to Drew for stopping by, to Mark and Paul and

979
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: Sean and Mike Meltzer and Andre where and everybody that

980
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: contributed this weekend for the draft. It was a blast.

981
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate Mark for letting me do my thing on

982
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: the draft. Tomorrow we will be live at Fudruckers fifty

983
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: nine in Wesleyan. Come on and check us out. Myself

984
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: at DPCO will be over there, so if you want

985
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: to come and hang out with us, have a burger,

986
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: sit down and talk to Ball, we will do that.

987
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk about the draft. We'll also hear

988
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: from Deshaun Watson tomorrow. He sat down with Drew Doherty

989
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: and recounted some of his memories from the twenty seventeen drafts.

990
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: A lot going on tomorrow. Appreciate you guys listening. We'll

991
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: see it then and there's always go Texans