WEBVTT - #SuckArmy Basecamp 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.280 Hell. I Suck at Dating with de Nungler and Jared 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:11.760 Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone? 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.920 Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.640 at Dating, and believe it or not, Jared is finally 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.880 back with us. About time. It's about time. We missed 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:24.919 your presence here, buddy. How the heck are you? You know? 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.760 Climbing Everest was fun. I went to bungee jumping, skydiving, 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:34.080 I backpacked through Pakistan. Uh. You know, I'm quite the 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.640 adventurous soul, and so it was good. You know what 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.240 my my adventure is. Ashley and I went to hobby 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.559 lobby the other day and I'm not gonna lie. I 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.519 felt it was the most I felt alive in a 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.839 long time. Tell me what you get. Well, it was 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.040 off fall things, so that's why we went yeup trying 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.360 to decorate both the house and Audrey's. So it was. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.639 It was pretty extravagant, man, and we were in there 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.400 for a couple, let's say, almost an hour. It's a 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.840 pretty long time for hobby lobby. I it was fun. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.039 So we went there and then we wanted to go 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:14.919 to halloween store Spirit Spirit Halloween, but unfortunately Dawson. Dawson 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.920 started losing his a little bit, so, uh, we just 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:19.880 had to go to home depot and then go home. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:21.920 We went to Home Deeople and hobby lobby. It was 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.560 a big day. That is a big day. You guys 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.319 are pretty big on the whole autumn anesthetic. I feel like, right, Oh, 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.840 we're basic bitches, my friend. Oh, give me all the 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.680 pumpkin uh cider apple, just give it to me all 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:38.000 just pumping in, just pumping into my veins. Please, for 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.399 the love of God, that's exciting, man. I'm happy for you, 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.560 and bigger news for you. To the Buccaneers one last night, 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:49.080 your favorite team. Hell yes, um, the Patriots. I can't remember. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.840 Did they win or did they lose? They lost? Did 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.480 they suck? It's pathetic. I'm sorry to move on from 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.840 Bill Belichick. I've been ready for a while. I've been 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.760 mad at him for the whole Brady situation. So, I mean, 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.000 I've Mac Jones and my fantasy team, so I want 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.840 him to at least do good. But he's got to 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:08.080 groove it back now. Apparently it's kind. But let's talk 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.800 about you Dany babies. Yeah, well, you're the one who's 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.360 been glad so long. Everybody's so curious, what the hell 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.280 have you've been up to? Because the crazy thing about 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.840 what you just did. Everybody knows that you went backpacking 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.680 through Pakistan, or at least if they listen to this podcast, 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:29.079 then you went to Everest. Crazy man climbed Everest, as 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.640 you know, just another Tuesday in the Day in the 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.440 life of Dean Lard. But the crazy thing for me 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:40.760 was that you were completely off the grid. Yeah, what 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.160 do you mean, like in terms of it wasn't on 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.640 the internet? Well, you also did you have cell service? 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:50.280 Like were you able to look if you fell and 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.800 broke your leg like you did skiing? Yeah, could you 0:02:54.919 --> 0:03:00.720 call someone? Um? Well, yes and no. I guess when 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.400 we first started our trek in Pakistan, Uh, we got 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:05.919 you know, you just you got a lot of time 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.040 to talk, and we got to talk into the point. 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:09.919 I'm not a big fan of insurance companies. I'll just 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.360 go out there and say, insurance, in my opinion just 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:16.000 generally is a bit of a scam. Well yeah, until 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.080 you actually are her, and then it's like, uh, the 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.680 one time that's there in lies the dilemma of course 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.000 you you you don't need it. Until you do, and 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.320 when you do, you wish you have it. So anyways, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.320 I was talking to the guys like the trip organizer, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.600 and he was like, yeah, you know, that's why I 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.280 make everyone get insurance travel insurance and make sure I 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.280 got everyone's got Global Rescue, which is like if you 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.600 ever get stuck in the mountains, global Rescue, they can 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.840 come pick you up in a helicopter, like essentially for free. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.720 And I was like, oh um, yeah, I never got 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.240 those things because I don't really believe in insurance as 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:52.200 just a whole institution. And he was like super pissed 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.320 at me, like he was like listen, like you don't 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.360 need it technically, but as like the trip leader, I'm 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.360 advising you to get it, and I think that it's 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:01.720 definitely a good idea for you to have. And so 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.680 I had to get on the satellite phone. We had 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.839 a satellite phone, so I could like text Kalin every 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.320 couple of days and just kind of update her and 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.280 tell her what was going on. Be like babem alive, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.440 I'll talk to you in four days. I'll let you know. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.560 I mean literally exactly, That's exactly how it went. And 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.800 so I texted Kalin and I was like, hey, um, 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.080 they're really upset at me for not having insurance or 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.200 global rescue. Can you just like go on and sign 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:23.760 me up for a couple of those things real quick? 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.320 So if I did fall and break my leg um, 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.480 they would have sent a military helicopter to come pick 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.160 me up. But I don't know if you saw my stories. 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:37.000 There was actually an older gentleman from France who died 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.000 up there just a couple of days ahead of us, 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.400 and his dead body was on the glacier for like 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.720 at least four days because they had to divert. I mean, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.400 this is this is me just guessing why it was 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.000 up there for so long, because Pakistan obviously had like 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:52.600 a lot of flooding and stuff, and so I think 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.320 that they had to use a lot of the resources 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.640 to help the flooding victims, and they didn't have like 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.720 a helicopter to come pick up this climber who had 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.280 died a couple of days, so he was ahead of us, 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.880 and we had to hike up and through this part 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.680 of a glacier like onto this moraine, and we walked 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.040 right by his dead body. It was pretty Um, it's 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.080 pretty interesting. It's definitely like the first time I'd ever 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.320 have to experience that in the outdoors at least, so 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.680 kind of what was the temperature on this glacier? Uh, 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.160 it varied obviously, like at night it would probably get 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.839 down warmer than you think. It got down to maybe 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:27.880 like ten or fifteen degrees at night, and in the 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.080 day it probably was up to like thirty five or 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.760 forty degrees. So not not super cold, but obviously not 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.000 like super warm either. You know. Well, I'm thinking logistically 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.479 now about this poor man who died and whether his 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.080 body was frozen, which I think would be a good thing. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.039 I'm not sure, honestly. Yeah, No, I think the freezing helps. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.400 I think it helps preserve some things and makes like 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.599 the like no rotting would sit in. It was really interesting, actually, 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.200 because we had known a few days in advance that 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.279 a guy had died in front of us, and but 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:58.960 he was like miles ahead of us, like we hadn't 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.960 gotten up to that point yet, and we were walking 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.480 along and like we were about to get off the 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.440 glacier to go towards where our campsite was going to be, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.200 and there's this big orange flag in the ground, and 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:10.880 so we were like what's this? And so we go 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.080 up to it and you're like, oh, it's a sleeping bag. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:14.880 Someone just left a sleeping bag here. Maybe it's like 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.440 a marker for something. And then you realize that there's 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.880 someone in the sleeping bag, and you realize it then 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:24.239 that that's that's the guy. Yeah, so it was pretty crazy. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.640 And and you it's funny because you asked about what 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.040 would happen to me if I broke my leg up there, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.479 and I had an answer for that. And this guy 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.560 from France had a guide from Pakistan that didn't speak French, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.479 so they couldn't communicate with each other. The guide didn't 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.360 have a satellite phone, so these people had to like 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.839 hike down to us and then use our satellite phone. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.960 And still even with all that, like you know, obviously 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.680 the worst case scenario happened where he ended up passing away. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.360 So I mean, it's pretty crazy to think that they 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.520 would let them up there without the proper resources to 0:06:54.520 --> 0:07:00.440 save themselves if they needed it. And what did um 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.880 He he was like fifty one, so he was a 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.360 little on the older side. Older fifty one, that's not old. 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:12.040 I mean, I mean, I agree, older, maybe older than 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:13.880 the average person that goes up there. Let's say that 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.880 at the least he died from as far as we know, 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.600 I can't remember what the actual UH for reference for 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.000 Mark our producers fifty one. So pretty much Mark Dean's 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.520 calling you old or older if that makes you feel 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:31.840 any better, Um, not necessarily that, I don't know. I 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.120 don't know. For he was older than us. He was 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:35.960 if he was in our group, he would have been 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.800 the oldest person in the group. I I was assuming 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.200 maybe this gentleman was in his seventies or maybe just 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:47.960 older and really pushing himself. But holy, that's intense, man. Yeah, 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.880 he's got Maybe it's a is it apoxia? I can't 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.280 remember what it is, like a pulmonary edema. It's just like, 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.280 because you know our average altitude up there, and and 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.120 where he ended up passing away, I want to say 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:02.040 it was like fifth teen thousand feet high. And so 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:06.800 people just get altitude sickness really bad. And with altitude sickness, Um, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.040 if you don't descend to like a lower altitude fast 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:14.000 enough and you just stay high, you obviously put yourself 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.040 in more risk. But he couldn't get to a lower 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.080 altitude fast enough. To recover, and so he was just 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.280 stuck at this high altitude for too long and eventually, UM, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.760 I think he just died. That what do you die? Like? 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.400 What what do you so? What causes death when you're 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.520 so high up? Um, that's a good question. Let's see. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.800 I think there's like a fluid build up in either 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:41.480 your lungs or your brain because of the pressure or 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.680 something like that. I'm not really quite the medical expert 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.120 for it, but I'm pretty sure it's like a fluid 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.920 build up in your brain or lungs or heart or 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:53.679 something that ultimately ends up killing you. Did every four days. 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:55.880 On one of those four days, you're like, by the way, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.800 a gentleman passed away in front of us, and uh 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.559 from being too high up all, I'll talk to you 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.679 in five days when we're about another five thousand feet 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.520 in the air. Yeah. No, I thought about it because 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.760 like I could send her like five texts every three days, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.920 and so I was like asking some of the people 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.040 we were with. I was like, do you guys think 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:14.840 I should tell Kalin about what happened to this French 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.120 climber while we were up here? And everyone unanimously agreed 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.040 that it would maybe be best to wait till after 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.079 to like be able to like talk to her on 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.480 the phone and and and like answer questions and and 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.600 be able to describe what happened in a little bit 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.600 more detail, because if you just had one text message 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.720 and you're like, hey, some guy just died, like, it's 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.000 kind of I think that's a bed BEDA need a 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:38.439 little bit more context than that. Yeah, So so that 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.440 was an interesting experience. Like I've I've seen people get 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.679 hurt in the mountains, I've never obviously seen anyone die 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.440 in the mountains. Um, and I didn't, like, I didn't 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.559 know the guy, So I'm pretty detached from it that 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.440 I saw his body and stuff, I guess, which is 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:55.839 pretty pretty gruesome. But what else? What else? So besides that, Well, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:10:00.080 so you were you backpacked through Pakistan? Yeah, okay, So 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.679 what was the purpose of backpacking through Pakistan? I mean, 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.760 what's the purpose of anything, what's the purpose of having 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.840 a podcast? Well, with the purpose of of climbing Mount 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.360 Everest is because you're climbing the tallest mountain in the world. 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.200 You're trying to get to the highest peak. So backpacking 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.960 through Pakistan is it just because it's there? Is Hannah 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.319 or East and said, yeah, it's there. Definitely, you're trekking 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.800 through the mountains, but was there some sort of end goal? 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.559 Was there places that you wanted to see? No, that's 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.400 a good question. Actually, yeah. So we trucked through this 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.400 mountain range called the car Acorum and it's one of 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.640 the most isolated mountain ranges in the world, I guess. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.360 And so what we did was we went over this 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.680 thing called the his bar Law Glacier, which is his 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.240 bar Law is the second largest glacier in the world 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.800 behind Antarctica, So I guess, take Antarctic out of the equation. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.040 It's the biggest glacier in the world, and it's just 0:10:56.080 --> 0:11:00.160 like a really remote, really beautiful area. We were the 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.120 first team all season to cross it, actually, which is 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.520 pretty We were pretty proud of ourselves, I guess for 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.280 being the first team to cross. There was like maybe 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.640 thirty other teams that had tried and all failed. So 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.520 that was pretty cool experience. But I guess why. I mean, 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.080 I don't know, It's just it was one of those 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:21.520 things where, uh, it was not much information about, but 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.600 like a lot of people were excited to do something 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.720 out there, and uh, The nice thing about it, I 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.600 guess is we weren't going super high, Like a lot 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.160 of the tricks that you do in Pakistan will get 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.679 you up to like seven thousand meters, which obviously could 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.040 lead to altitude sickness and death and stuff. So I 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:35.400 think the highest we got on this one was like, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.880 which is still you know, like sixteen thousand feet's pretty tall. Um. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.720 But it was just one of those things where it 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.720 was like an interesting trek over a unique landscape, uh, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.520 in an experience unlike any other, I guess is kind 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:52.160 of how it was all set up or proposition to us. Um. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:53.959 But it was cool. I mean, I've never done anything 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.480 like it before. My biggest hike before this was like 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.439 eighty kilometers in five days, and this was like a 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.480 hundred and thirty kilometers and thirteen days, so less per 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.079 day but obviously pretty long. And we had like a 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.280 huge team. There was ten of us hiking, and then 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.240 we had like thirty porters, which is insane. Uh. And 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.360 the porters were doing things like you know, they brought 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.160 the food, they would carry like tents and supplies and 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.679 stuff like that. So it was you know, it was 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.440 quite the experience. I see you guys had your own 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.079 personal assistance over here. This is you guys were like 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.200 pretty much at the hill in Come on, I didn't 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.360 know that you have people bringing you food in tens 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.599 and setting up living for you. Yeah, it was like 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.239 this changes everything for me. They would cook us breakfast, 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.360 cook us dinner every night. I mean that part was nice, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.280 Like I've never done that either. I would normally just 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:44.599 be like I want to carry my own stuff and 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.440 I want to cook my own food. But it's like 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.679 up there, you like need support. You need as much 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.240 support as you can have. And so there was like 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.360 port there was We had like people bring chickens up, 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.600 like live chickens um that eventually, you know, turned into 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.480 our food. We had a goat that we brought with us, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.679 like a living goat. It was like our friend for 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.880 four days, and then on the fourth day they slaughtered 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.959 the goat and skinned the goat, and then they cooked 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.480 the goat and we ate goat for the next like 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.720 three or four or five days. Did the goat have 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:16.320 a name? Did your friend have a name? Yeah? I was. 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.280 I told Kalen the story. She thought it was pretty funny. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.040 I'm gonna spare some of the details of this story. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.720 The goat did have a name, and one of the 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.640 one of the people checking with us, asked me who 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.880 my least favorite ex girlfriend was, and and I gave 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:33.720 them a name. I'm not going to say the name, 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.960 got it. And and so for the rest of the trip, 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.920 everyone called the goat by the name of my ex girlfriend. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.559 And obviously, like every time they would serve us goat, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.240 they'd be like man Dean's ex girlfriend, you know, using 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:52.840 her name taste really good. First of all, I wanted 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.520 to ask if I can guess, but I feel like 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.200 i'd get it, so I don't only want to go 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:03.000 down that road. Secondly, uh, there's poor fucking goat. It's 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.560 friends with you guys, it's hanging out, and then you're 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.760 calling it by this name that nobody wants to hear. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:15.160 And then you kill the goat and then eat him. Well, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.280 so no one knew why we were calling the goat, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.360 why we why we were calling the goat, what we 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.440 were calling it. No one knew except for me and 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.920 the person that named it. And at the very end 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.200 of the trip, everyone was like talking about getting tattoos 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.720 for you know, just to commemorate the trip. Or whatever, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:31.840 and everyone was like, oh, let's get the name of 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.120 the goat tattooed on us, and I was like, oh, no, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:36.800 I can't. I can't do the next. I can't get 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.840 my ex girlfriend's name tattooed on my body. As as 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:41.840 much as I love dump tattoos, I think that's maybe 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.400 where I draw the line. And uh, yeah, it's pretty funny. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.880 No one knew that we were calling her by her 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.240 name the entire time, and it was a guy. The 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.120 goat was a guy too, which was whatever. But yeah, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:52.880 it was interesting. It was interesting to like walk with 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:56.040 your food and then end up eating it. It's actually, uh, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.280 I had to go the first day and it made 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:04.560 me kind of sick and so so uh someone just 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.320 mentioned the name of the chat and yeah, they nailed 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:11.320 it right on the head um and uh, I got 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.680 super sick the first day. So I didn't eat meat 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.520 for the next like three two or three weeks. I 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.280 was vegetarian basically the entire time I was there, And uh, 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:19.960 I think that's kind of the way to do it. 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.120 I actually I think I want to be vege more 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.960 often now because it makes me feel light. It's just 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.800 it's hard to be vegetarian in America, especially like everything 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:30.960 has meat in it and it's so delicious. Did you 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.400 feel weak at all? I feel like I tried to 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.840 go vegetarian, and I just felt like I had no 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.960 fuel in my body. Uh No, I I felt pretty good. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.560 I don't know what it was. I like, I mean, 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.800 t M I moment, I guess I was like, it's 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.840 really bad diarrhea for a few days, so that was 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.400 taking it out of me. But like once my once 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.200 my poop started to solidify after not eating the goat 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.000 for so long, it was it turned out pretty good. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.280 Were there porter potties on this trek? What happened when 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.080 you had to you know, when you had to explosive 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.000 diarrhea like you did? Yeah, you just find a nice 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.240 rock to sit behind and uh, bring some baby wipes 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.800 with you. It's not the most ideal. They bring like 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.320 a small little tent that you can use if like, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.920 so for one of the nights, we slept on this 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.320 big like out on the glacier, so there's like no 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.360 rocks or no trees or anything to hide behind, and 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:21.920 so like you kind of have to have at least 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.320 like a little bit of um privacy. There, so there's 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.640 like a little two ft by two ft tent. But 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.200 then so we were stuck in this one campsite for 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.360 four days because the weather was really really bad. I'm 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.160 sure you saw the flooding that was going on out there, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.960 and the tent stays in the same place for the 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.520 entire time, and all you're doing is going right on 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.720 top of the rocks. And so by day four you 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.040 would go into the tent to do your business and 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.600 you would see, uh, four days worth of forty people's 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.160 you know, excrement, I guess, so it gets pretty gross 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.960 in there. Uh So that's why I think near the 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.440 end people were just like going and finding a nice 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.840 rock to go hide behind. It got pretty grimy a 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.360 little bit and was like raining every day. So every 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.160 night you got to sleep, you're soaking wet. It was 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.880 freezing cold, so you're like cold and wet, and then 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:07.560 you get up in the morning like hoping for some 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.639 sun and then it's like really bad weather, so then 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.639 you're just cold and wet all day again. It was 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.320 it was. There was some moments there that were like 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:19.440 pretty pretty for sure, um, but and then sorry I'm 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:25.399 rambling here, and then uh, they like send out. They 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.160 set out a packing list on what's app like two 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.640 months before the trip started, and I deleted my what's 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.560 app because I kept getting like these like these people 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.440 trying to sell me handbags on what's app and I 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.960 was like, I just I don't want any notifications, and 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.919 so I just handbag. I just I'm so, you're right, 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.880 there's nothing wrong with a nice handbag, but just don't 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.720 message me message Klein if anything for that stuff. And 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.720 so I deleted the app entirely. And so I had 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.720 no like, uh, I had no like recourse with anyone 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.560 from the trip. I had no way of getting in touch, 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:55.919 and I had no idea that that's how they were 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.879 staying in touch was through what'sapp and sending all these 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.919 packing lists and stuff. So I just show up with 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.679 my regular bag of stuff in terms of hiking supplies, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.440 because I've never done like a glacial hike before, and 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.359 we get there and you know, we start hiking through 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:14.560 like waist deep snow and for like multiple hours a day, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.640 and I was like, I'm not prepared for this. I've 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.800 got the wrong supplies. And so I had like borrow 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.480 some guys hiking boots, which ultimately ended up getting soaked 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:26.480 as well. Um, it was just it was maybe, you know, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.320 I like to call myself a minimalist. I think this 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.240 is maybe the first case where being a minimalist almost 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.320 almost shot shot me in the butt as bad as 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.840 as bad as it could have. But I don't know. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.800 You show up, you don't have insurance, you don't have 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.800 the right supplies. This is the most dean thing I've 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.560 ever heard. I'm glad. I'm glad that you just went 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.359 there yourself. But you know what, I'll tell you what. 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.040 I'll tell you what people had. These people had these 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.000 big bags. What you could do is you could have 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.520 an extra second bag, like one that you wouldn't wear, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.320 but you like give it to one of the porters 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.840 to carry. And I'm orders, oh, well, I mean, it's 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.719 not like they're they're getting compensated for their work, you know, 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:06.600 it's not like they're working for free. I'd love to 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:10.800 know how much they make. I'm sure it's less than 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:15.760 it should be, but if they weren't getting paid, well, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.280 I think it's still I think it's still above average 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.200 for like a person from the area would get paid 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.359 doing something else. Like they're still making better money than 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:27.480 the other people in the area, I think I would assume. Um, 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.040 And so you can give these people a second bag 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.080