Speaker 1: So if you're thirty five years old, the CEO of
Speaker 1: Teal Capital, you're working for a billionaire. You're probably making
Speaker 1: bank yourself as a result of that. Why run for Senate?
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask my next guest that question. His name
Speaker 1: is Blake Masters. He is running for Senate in Arizona.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who has lived his life in
Speaker 1: in a lot of the startup world. He's running as
Speaker 1: a disruptor. I mean, he's raised a ton of campaign
Speaker 1: cash off of things like n f T s and
Speaker 1: so I want to ask him and really get to
Speaker 1: the heart of how do you want to disrupt Congress?
Speaker 1: What do you want to do? This is also someone
Speaker 1: who's really made waves with a lot of the things
Speaker 1: he said, like this, add the Second Amendment is not
Speaker 1: about duck hunting. It's about protecting your family and your country.
Speaker 1: What's the first thing the Taliban did when Joe Biden
Speaker 1: handed an Afghanistan? They took away people's guns. That's how
Speaker 1: it works. Isn't it weird to hear someone actually just
Speaker 1: speak the truth? Is that the whole point of the
Speaker 1: Second Amendment to protect us from tyranny and look at
Speaker 1: authoritarian regimes. You look at when communism takes over, what
Speaker 1: do they do? They shut down the press, they shut
Speaker 1: down free speech, and they take away your guns. So
Speaker 1: honesty is refreshing, and that's what Blake Masters does. He's
Speaker 1: really honest. He recently came under attack for saying that
Speaker 1: the gender pay gap was a left wing narrative. Also true,
Speaker 1: but so many Republicans are afraid to say things like that.
Speaker 1: Why It's a really fascinating interview with someone who has
Speaker 1: already done a lot in his life. He's an author
Speaker 1: as well, who's already accomplished a lot and wants to
Speaker 1: do more, possibly as a United States Senator. I think
Speaker 1: you're really going to enjoy this conversation with a fascinating person.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned for my interview with Blake Masters. Blake Masters,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining the show. My pleasure. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me so Blake, you are through? Do
Speaker 1: you five years old? You're the president of the Peter
Speaker 1: Teel Foundation, CEO of Teal Capital. I assume you were
Speaker 1: making bank and crushing it. Why run for Senate? It's
Speaker 1: a good question. A lot of my friends ask that,
Speaker 1: they're like, dude, what's wrong with you? But you know
Speaker 1: what it. It just seems like the most important thing
Speaker 1: I could be doing. You know, I don't mean that
Speaker 1: to sound cliche. I literally think we are losing this country.
Speaker 1: Um I just said yesterday. Uh. It pains me to
Speaker 1: say it. But at this rate, America is on track
Speaker 1: to become a third world country by the time my boys,
Speaker 1: who were eight and six and two years old and
Speaker 1: heart high school. And that's not okay with me. You know,
Speaker 1: Arizona is not a purple state, it's not a blue state.
Speaker 1: But somehow we have two Democrats editors. And uh, I
Speaker 1: just thought, let me let me hit pause on this
Speaker 1: business career because I can go in. I can beat
Speaker 1: Mark Kelly. Uh and I can make a change. I
Speaker 1: can I can actually show the kind of new leadership
Speaker 1: that we need. So it feels important. I thought I'd
Speaker 1: be good at it. I think I'm showing I'm the
Speaker 1: guy who could beat Mark Kelly. And uh and here
Speaker 1: I am. You know. And so you got involved in
Speaker 1: Peter Chiel's world. Well, obviously everyone knows he's been involved
Speaker 1: in politics. He's a billionaire, co founded PayPal. When you
Speaker 1: were attending class and he was teaching about startups and
Speaker 1: you were a student at Stanford, and you started posting
Speaker 1: these detailed notes on the line, which ended up leading
Speaker 1: the groundwork for a book that you co authored with
Speaker 1: Peter TiO called zero to One Notes on Startup or
Speaker 1: How to Build the Future. What was he saying that
Speaker 1: you found so interesting in terms of, you know, posting
Speaker 1: it online and sharing it with everyone else. Honestly, it
Speaker 1: was just fresh and original content. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: to a lot of classes up until that point, all
Speaker 1: of high school, all of undergrad most of law school,
Speaker 1: and you know, the professors, they're smart people, but mainly
Speaker 1: they're just telling you about what's in some book, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's very formulaic, and all of a sudden, here's
Speaker 1: Peter Kiel. You know, this was I guessleven when when
Speaker 1: I met him, when he first saught a class, and
Speaker 1: you know, all I knew was he was successful. He
Speaker 1: founded PayPal, you know, billionaire. Congratulations. That's great. But he
Speaker 1: wasn't just like telling wars stories from PayPal. There was
Speaker 1: some of that. But you know, one class we're talking
Speaker 1: about peak oil and what the future of energy was
Speaker 1: going to look like. Uh, and then the next class
Speaker 1: session we'd be doing some you know, textual exegesis from
Speaker 1: obscure Abraham Lincoln's speech, you know, and then the next
Speaker 1: section we're talking about nuclear energy and and and this
Speaker 1: is just he was kind of all over the place.
Speaker 1: But after three or four class sessions, I realized, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't all over the place. He had formulated you know,
Speaker 1: these different cuts, these different angles uh of looking at
Speaker 1: the world, and all this stuff was tying together, and
Speaker 1: it was fascinating to see sort of fresh and original
Speaker 1: content uh from somebody. It stuck out and I knew, man,
Speaker 1: this guy, he's he's thinking about things, uh in a
Speaker 1: different way, in the next level way. This is exciting.
Speaker 1: I better take notes. I mean, I'm not gonna lie Blake.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind being a billionaire. But but you know, so,
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at Congress, it's it's mostly
Speaker 1: you know, old and and boring people. And you're sort
Speaker 1: of talking about how you know, Peter was disruptive and
Speaker 1: that sort of intrigued you. I mean, you're kind of
Speaker 1: running as this disruptive force running for Senate. I mean
Speaker 1: you've fundraised off of n f T S, which is
Speaker 1: entirely different than you know, most people running for Senate.
Speaker 1: Do how do you think someone as young as you
Speaker 1: was sort of this smart, this startup mentality, how do
Speaker 1: you plan on disrupting Congress? Well, it's really interesting because
Speaker 1: I think the same old playbook just so obviously doesn't
Speaker 1: work anymore. Right, It's like you, you have some good
Speaker 1: people in Congress, but not most of them, and I
Speaker 1: just it's so it's so borring. It's just follow the process.
Speaker 1: Follow the process. Nobody wants to debate substance anymore, nobody
Speaker 1: wants to try anything new. Um and And you know,
Speaker 1: on the one hand, I'm very conservative. I believe in
Speaker 1: the timeless principles that this country was founded on. I
Speaker 1: believe in our original design, in our in our constitution,
Speaker 1: um and so there's something very old about that obviously.
Speaker 1: But we've got to get back to that. And I
Speaker 1: don't think you get back to that just by following
Speaker 1: where politics has been going, as if on autopilot. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of zombie Republicans. They just want to get
Speaker 1: in line and listen to whatever ship, whatever leadership says,
Speaker 1: and who don't want to innovate. I think we need
Speaker 1: fresh thinking. I think we need new thinking. And so
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to run a bold campaign. UM, trying
Speaker 1: to be as bold as possible, say the truth as
Speaker 1: I see it. Methodologically, we're trying to innovate, right. I
Speaker 1: had to get creative with fund grazing UM and so yeah,
Speaker 1: we sold some n f T s and you know,
Speaker 1: I offered some some dinners just right on Twitter. I said, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you want to donate the maximum MOP to my campaign,
Speaker 1: you can come have dinner with me and Peter Tiele,
Speaker 1: you know, And that got a good uptake. We've had
Speaker 1: some fantastic dinner conversations UM as an innovative way to
Speaker 1: raise money, and so I'm just trying to do new things. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I think once I get there, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: going to continue. That's when the real work begins. I
Speaker 1: don't think to sort of go along to get along
Speaker 1: Republicanism makes sense anymore. I'm tired of Republicans who just
Speaker 1: want to play defense while they left the left set
Speaker 1: the agenda. Well, I totally agree with you, and that's
Speaker 1: why I wanted to have you on this podcast and
Speaker 1: why I'm interested in your candidacy. I mean, we're sort
Speaker 1: of we're entering into this post truth world. Where boys
Speaker 1: can be girls, girls can be boy boys. Were you know,
Speaker 1: nothing is truth anymore, right, And so what I appreciate
Speaker 1: about what you're doing is you say the truth, which
Speaker 1: is almost sadly controversial these days. You know, for instance,
Speaker 1: you just came under attack for talking about the gender
Speaker 1: pay gap and saying it's a left wing narrative, it's
Speaker 1: not real. Were you surprised by the reaction that those
Speaker 1: comments got. I mean, not really. I guess I'm surprised that,
Speaker 1: you know, they acted like it was this gotcha. This
Speaker 1: was a public forum that we had all the Senate
Speaker 1: candidates except Bard of it. She doesn't show up to
Speaker 1: these things, but most of us are there. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we got asked this question about the Equal
Speaker 1: Rights Amendment. UM sort of idiots incredit question. It's not
Speaker 1: like I'm going out and campaigning on the gender pay
Speaker 1: gap myth every day. But you know, when I'm asked
Speaker 1: a question, I don't just hipot too safe talking points.
Speaker 1: I just again, I say the truth as I see it.
Speaker 1: And so I got asked this question and back in February,
Speaker 1: and it was the public form, right, I knew it
Speaker 1: was being recorded, and it's in front of hundreds of people.
Speaker 1: But I just said the truth, which is that in
Speaker 1: this country, men and women they're not paid different amounts
Speaker 1: for equal work. If you actually know how to measure
Speaker 1: this stuff and you can get it, you can get
Speaker 1: the statistics from you know, the government's website. UM, women
Speaker 1: are paid about the same as men when you control, uh,
Speaker 1: for for choices, When you control for um, you know
Speaker 1: who's doing the jobs and what their relative skill levels are.
Speaker 1: And so it's just a myth. And I said that,
Speaker 1: And so what happened clearly was this is the week
Speaker 1: where all the left wing media just started to attack me.
Speaker 1: And so this was in some Democrat Operats AFO file.
Speaker 1: They fed it to MSNBC. MSNBC published the video. They
Speaker 1: thought it would be this huge gotcha, and it turns
Speaker 1: out everybody, you know, in the in the Twitter comments,
Speaker 1: everybody on social media is just like, actually, Blake sort
Speaker 1: of write about that. You know, they haven't updated their
Speaker 1: talking points from fifteen months ago, and so I think
Speaker 1: the fifteen years ago, and so I think this whole
Speaker 1: thing was actually net positive for me. They're giving me attention,
Speaker 1: pretending like the truth that I'm saying is is, you know,
Speaker 1: some horrible thing. Actually it's just true. Well and it
Speaker 1: was hilarious because I can't remember which article was, but
Speaker 1: they're trying to dispute you, and they're like, well some
Speaker 1: say this, but like there's also you know, like it
Speaker 1: wasn't really outright disputing you. I mean, they're almost proving
Speaker 1: your point that you know it's not an apples to
Speaker 1: apples or you know there's other variants involved, which is
Speaker 1: essentially what you're saying is when you look at all variants,
Speaker 1: it's not a true narrative. But it was funny because
Speaker 1: they didn't really dispute your case, but you know, and
Speaker 1: you sort of made waves. I mean, you had a
Speaker 1: campaign at about the Second Amendment, which I played in
Speaker 1: the intro for our audience. And what you're saying is
Speaker 1: that you said the Second Amendment is not about duck hunting.
Speaker 1: It's about preventing or protecting your family and country. You know,
Speaker 1: what's the first thing the Taoiband did when Joe Biden
Speaker 1: handed them Afghanistan? They took away people's guns. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're right about the Second Amendment is a defense against tyranny.
Speaker 1: Do you think more people unders and that now having
Speaker 1: gone through yeah. Absolutely. It's like, you know, the Republicans
Speaker 1: already had guns. I think conservatives, especially in Arizona, we
Speaker 1: already had guns if you look at who bought guns
Speaker 1: for the first time during the COVID pandemic. You know,
Speaker 1: when people are tuning into CNN and CNN is saying, hey,
Speaker 1: these protests are mostly peaceful. Meanwhile, you know, in the
Speaker 1: back of the reporter there's just like police precincts being
Speaker 1: lit on fire. I think a lot of independence and
Speaker 1: even a lot of Democrats are like, oh, the police
Speaker 1: are coming under attack. Doesn't feel so good. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: go out and buy a gun. And so I think
Speaker 1: the gun control thing is is completely dead. Um. Obviously
Speaker 1: the left still wants to disarm normal, law abiding American citizens,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's gonna happen anymore. And then
Speaker 1: we can't let up. We have to prosecute the case.
Speaker 1: But the Second Amendment, it's not about hunting, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm tired of Republicans just making ads, you know
Speaker 1: TV commercials where they put on the camouflage and the
Speaker 1: and the orange safety vests and they're going out and shooting,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, some some trap or something I'm fine
Speaker 1: with hunting, I'm fine for sporting use of firearms obviously,
Speaker 1: But the real point of the Second Amendment is political.
Speaker 1: It's to defend yourself against threats ultimately against government maurity
Speaker 1: and pitches the left off when you say that to them,
Speaker 1: it's like nails on a chalkboard. But again, it's simply true.
Speaker 1: It's bold, it is provocative, and I think that's the
Speaker 1: sweet spot. That's where Republican messaging needs to be well.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what a lot of Republicans don't
Speaker 1: understand is and what you know, you've understood, what President
Speaker 1: Trump understood, what Governor to Santa's understands, is that when
Speaker 1: you go on offense, Republicans can win on a lot
Speaker 1: of these issues. But for far too long, Republicans kind
Speaker 1: of coward to the media and you know, bought into
Speaker 1: these fake premises and we're so afraid of their own shadows.
Speaker 1: And I think Republicans are finally starting to get it.
Speaker 1: But we need more people like you. We need more
Speaker 1: people like Governor to Santas and Trump who are are
Speaker 1: fighting back and you know, going on off and ultimately,
Speaker 1: I think that's the path forward for Republicans agree. And
Speaker 1: you know, I always like to contrast the presidential election
Speaker 1: with the election, you know, Mitt Romney, I think when
Speaker 1: he lost in twelve, one reason was because he was
Speaker 1: too damned nice, you know. And I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: should go out of your way to be mean to
Speaker 1: people for no reason, but you can't. Can't be so nice,
Speaker 1: so obsessed with your own niceness that you crave the
Speaker 1: attention and the adoration and the respect of the media.
Speaker 1: Because most of the corporate media at this point it's
Speaker 1: just really bad, most of his left wing um you
Speaker 1: could best think of these people as like extensions of
Speaker 1: the modern Democratic Party. And so when Mitt Romney was
Speaker 1: terrified inelve about being called a racist, right and he
Speaker 1: was running gast Obama, he was just so nice. It
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Mr Obama is a good man, and
Speaker 1: I'm a good man, and we have some good faith
Speaker 1: policy disagreements, and that was just he misread what was
Speaker 1: happening that was to save the country election, and and
Speaker 1: so he lost, and you and they called him racist anyway,
Speaker 1: by the way, right like they call him literally hitler,
Speaker 1: and and he just he just caved. And then four
Speaker 1: years later along comes President Trump. Right then candidate Trump.
Speaker 1: He came down the escalator and he knew that they
Speaker 1: were going to hit him with everything, and he didn't care.
Speaker 1: I don't think Romney's racist, to be clear, I know
Speaker 1: Trump's not racist, but Trump knew that they were going
Speaker 1: to call him that, and he let it beat off
Speaker 1: him like water, right, because they're gonna say this. You
Speaker 1: just gotta go forward. You gotta go right through it.
Speaker 1: You've got to prosecute that bold agenda. You can't care
Speaker 1: about seeking the adoration of the modern media. And when
Speaker 1: you play offense, not only do voters reward you, but
Speaker 1: then you can actually get stuff done, and that is
Speaker 1: just so important. Well, and to your point, I think
Speaker 1: that the difference between Mitt Romney and President Trump is
Speaker 1: you know when Mitt Romney and he was also accused
Speaker 1: of being sexist, and his response was, well, I had
Speaker 1: binders full of women, which then kind of makes you
Speaker 1: feel like, well maybe you are so like I don't know,
Speaker 1: you're sort of buying you know, yeah, yeah, it's you're
Speaker 1: playing defense. No. Actually, I have lots of black friends.
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird, you know, it's you can't can't
Speaker 1: accept the left wing friend, you can't be caught on
Speaker 1: your heels well, and like Trump I remember, I think
Speaker 1: it was like one of his first interviews after he
Speaker 1: had won, when he was president, and it was with
Speaker 1: a crap I'm blanking on the dude's name from I
Speaker 1: can see his face ABC David Muir and um, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I got that because I would have bothered me
Speaker 1: if I can't remember. And he was asking Trump about
Speaker 1: the Women's March, and then President Trump's response was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well March for Life is coming up, but you never
Speaker 1: cover that, and his face like dropped because they're not
Speaker 1: used to that kind of response where you're just like
Speaker 1: blatantly not buying into this BS narrative that they're pushing. So,
Speaker 1: you know, that was a game changer, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: to see. You know, Republicans have have sort of changed that.
Speaker 1: But you've also made waves on you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of other issues as well. We've seen recently with this
Speaker 1: Roverse Wade fight. Uh, you would say that you actually
Speaker 1: don't believe states should have the right to permit abortions,
Speaker 1: you know, talk about that, stay on a little bit
Speaker 1: more in depth for for the audience. Yeah, well, you
Speaker 1: hear so many Republicans saying, I think just the bare
Speaker 1: minimum on this issue because it can be controversial and
Speaker 1: they want to play it safe, and so I think
Speaker 1: the safe course what political consultants would encourage people to
Speaker 1: say is like, you know, let's help the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: overturns Roe v. Wade, which obviously it should, and and
Speaker 1: then let's return the issue to the states. You know,
Speaker 1: they use this sort of federalist language, federalism, uh, to
Speaker 1: try to just get off the hook. And to be clear,
Speaker 1: I hope that the Supreme Court case Um in Jobs.
Speaker 1: I hope it comes down like that League opinion suggested
Speaker 1: it what. I hope they reverse her every way. But
Speaker 1: I don't think you can simply return the issue to
Speaker 1: the states, because I don't think that California or Oregon
Speaker 1: should allow planned parenthood to go in at seven or
Speaker 1: eight months in euro and you know, kill babies several
Speaker 1: spinal cords and dismember babies. Um. And that's what the
Speaker 1: left really does want to do, to be clear, right
Speaker 1: just with it. Two days ago, every single Democrat senator
Speaker 1: except Joe Manson, but all the rest of them voted
Speaker 1: to legalize abortion. They said they were codifying Roby Wade, right,
Speaker 1: but that's not what it did. It when so much
Speaker 1: further than that, that bill would have legalized abortion nationwide
Speaker 1: up until the moment of birth, which is just something
Speaker 1: that eight Americans. No, it's horrible, it's murderous. It is
Speaker 1: basically like you know, delivery room execution. And so they're
Speaker 1: just radical on this issue, and I think at some
Speaker 1: point the federal government's got to step in and protect life.
Speaker 1: I know there's going to be debate in Congress about
Speaker 1: worship that worshould that be um, but let's have that debate,
Speaker 1: because the Fortune Amendment to the Constitution, like it says,
Speaker 1: you know, all Americans have the right to life and
Speaker 1: liberty and you can't deprive them of that without due process. Well,
Speaker 1: to me, it's harder to imagine a greater deprivation of
Speaker 1: due process than basically being dismembered before you have the
Speaker 1: chance to take your first breath. And so at least
Speaker 1: when we're talking about like late term and partial birth abortion, no,
Speaker 1: I think the several government needs to step in and
Speaker 1: band that. They have these bogus talking points like my body,
Speaker 1: my choice, but that doesn't apply when you're talking about
Speaker 1: another life that is involved in this situation. Like when
Speaker 1: I didn't get the vaccine, that is truly my body,
Speaker 1: my choice. When you're talking about another child being involved,
Speaker 1: that that just that's not a true narrative. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just a blatant lie. But you know, we we
Speaker 1: look at this league, this unprecedented league out of the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, we see in the left really just try
Speaker 1: to take down institutions, really burned these pillars that hold
Speaker 1: a civilized society up to the ground. What does that
Speaker 1: mean for the Supreme Court moving forward? I believe this
Speaker 1: has never ever happened before, right, Like, this is truly unprecedented,
Speaker 1: and you know, you look at public polling, the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court is more trusted than almost any other institution in
Speaker 1: the country. And so the left is just chipping away
Speaker 1: at all the institutions. Now they're they're really hacking away
Speaker 1: at the legitimacy of the Supreme Court itself. Um, this
Speaker 1: is really an attempt to intimidate the more conservative justices
Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court, and we have to pray that
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. But then again, Jen Psaki is inviting
Speaker 1: people to break federal law and go protest outside of
Speaker 1: these judges homes to intimidate them, trying get them to
Speaker 1: to cow and you know, retract that that reversal of
Speaker 1: grow and so this is really dangerous. I mean, we
Speaker 1: are r out on the precipice of all out sort
Speaker 1: of mob rule and it's two tier justice system, right,
Speaker 1: This erosion of the rule of law that we see
Speaker 1: under democratic rule, it's really dangerous. Like how crazy is
Speaker 1: it that in the summer of if you were a
Speaker 1: DLM or Antifa activist in Minneapolis, you could burn down buildings,
Speaker 1: you could burn down a police precinct and nothing bad
Speaker 1: would happen to you. And if you did happen to
Speaker 1: get handcuffed, Kamala Harris's bail fund would bail you out,
Speaker 1: you know, And can contrast that to uh, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously if any conservative did it did that, if anybody
Speaker 1: protested that side of Sonya Soda Mayor's house wearing a
Speaker 1: Maga hat, you know, they'd be prosecuted by this Biden
Speaker 1: DJ they wouldn't see the the sun for twenty years,
Speaker 1: they'd be thrown in a federal prison. And so this
Speaker 1: erosion of the rule law is really dangerous. But again
Speaker 1: Biden doesn't care. They wanted that to leak. For all
Speaker 1: I know they had a hand in it. You know,
Speaker 1: this is just really crazy, uncharted waters. I mean, for
Speaker 1: all we know, a Supreme Court justice you know how
Speaker 1: to hand in it, or at least knew about. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would I mean, I think it would be somewhat
Speaker 1: hard to imagine that there wasn't some sort of tacit
Speaker 1: approval in the lead gang. That would be so bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be grounds for for impeaching the justice.
Speaker 1: I even have a hard time believing that a justice
Speaker 1: would sign off on that, even one of the hyper
Speaker 1: liberal ones. But but I think the Supreme Court clerk
Speaker 1: at a minimum, right like the the best theory is
Speaker 1: that a super liberal, super super pro abortion Supreme Court
Speaker 1: clerk who had access to this you know, draft opinion,
Speaker 1: leaked it in order to intimidate and change the results.
Speaker 1: Um Man, I hope a justice wasn't involved. If so,
Speaker 1: that would just be a really really bad sign to
Speaker 1: this country. Quick commercial break more with Blake Masters, who's
Speaker 1: running for Senate in Arizona. Well, you know, when we're
Speaker 1: talking about the rule of law and you mentioned Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is someone as you pointed out, encouraging,
Speaker 1: you know, bailing out rioters. But on top of that,
Speaker 1: she told Jacob Blake she was proud of him. This
Speaker 1: is a guy who pulled a knife on a police officer,
Speaker 1: resisted arrest, showed up at the house of a of
Speaker 1: a woman he had previously sexually assaulted. Uh, and she
Speaker 1: said she was proud of him. I mean, if that
Speaker 1: doesn't really tell you everything about today's left, I don't
Speaker 1: really know what does. Yeah, exactly right, it's always it's
Speaker 1: always um the left against the average law abiding American
Speaker 1: and and the left in favor of anything that's going
Speaker 1: to disrupt public order, whether it's uh, you know, criminals
Speaker 1: in Chicago. They don't want to do anything about people
Speaker 1: shooting each other in Chicago, but they do want to
Speaker 1: just arm you and me. You know, they don't want
Speaker 1: to do anything about the lawlessness at our southern border.
Speaker 1: You can cross that line with impunity. But if you
Speaker 1: step over the line and become a mere trespasser in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. At the Capitol in January six, non know,
Speaker 1: the FBI is going to hunt you down and treat
Speaker 1: you as a domestic terrorist. Right, you can't get any
Speaker 1: breast milk, or you can't get excuse me, you can't
Speaker 1: get any formula baby formula in this country. The shelves
Speaker 1: are bare and most grocery stores. But about the only
Speaker 1: people who do have access to baby formula are illegal
Speaker 1: aliens at these well stocked facilities along the southern border.
Speaker 1: It's always just Americans last, and people are sick of it,
Speaker 1: you know. But we don't have a right to defender borders,
Speaker 1: but Ukraine does. And you said this recently about the
Speaker 1: forty billion dollars an aid that Congress is trying to
Speaker 1: provide Ukraine. You said, no cease fire. It means another
Speaker 1: foreign war where we are paying for everything. Why do
Speaker 1: you think our do your leaders want this to continue
Speaker 1: in Ukraine? And if so, why I think they do?
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: it is just lazy deference to the foreign policy blob,
Speaker 1: which never saw a word, and like, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of it. Um. You know, maybe if you can
Speaker 1: focus on problems abroad that have no chance of getting solved,
Speaker 1: and it's just distracts from all the problems at home
Speaker 1: that they're actually responsible for. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: think a lot of the people in charge. Of course,
Speaker 1: are are more of a globalist orientation, that they have
Speaker 1: this internationalist view. They want to run the world. They're
Speaker 1: not content to just you know, try to make America
Speaker 1: a better place. And so to them it's very logical.
Speaker 1: Forty billions of Ukraine, why not? Um? But I think
Speaker 1: to normal people, people who see that we've got our
Speaker 1: own problems to deal with in America, people who have
Speaker 1: become rightfully very skeptical of US involvement in foreign worse
Speaker 1: after the Iraq experience, after the Afghanistanic year, it's going
Speaker 1: and on after Libya, right. Um. I think Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Is just so out of step with what normal people
Speaker 1: want here and everybody, you know, nobody thinks the invasion
Speaker 1: was good. I think Putin is a thug. Um. I
Speaker 1: think the invasion is murderous. And Dad and I don't
Speaker 1: progress to the Ukrainian people for wanting to fight back,
Speaker 1: it's like good for them. Um. Any intervention we make
Speaker 1: should be narrowly tailored to get to a ceasefire. Right,
Speaker 1: we want that war to stop. The risk is if
Speaker 1: we just fund of proxy war, it's gonna escalate into
Speaker 1: a possible all out war between nuclear powers, but they
Speaker 1: call you a pro putin stooge. You know, if you say, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't just rush into World War three. Um,
Speaker 1: but now just on the raw financial contributional loan. And
Speaker 1: this isn't the first time. Right back in March, Congress
Speaker 1: already gave thirteen point six billion dollars to Ukraine, and
Speaker 1: now it's just forty billion dollars more. But then they
Speaker 1: wanted to say that eight billion for a border wall
Speaker 1: to secure our own border with Mexico. No, no no, no,
Speaker 1: that was too expensive. And so again it's just America last,
Speaker 1: and I think people are getting tired of it. Do
Speaker 1: you think Republicans need changes in leadership? I do. I
Speaker 1: think we need new leadership. Uh, basically across the board.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one huge reason why I'm running for office. Um.
Speaker 1: Obviously I can't run for majority leader my first term
Speaker 1: in the Senate. You know, you've got to know how
Speaker 1: the place works before you can do that. But people say, Blake,
Speaker 1: we vote for miss McConnell. I'm honest with people. I
Speaker 1: say he might get another term. He probably will, if
Speaker 1: I had to guess, I'm not sure anyone's gonna run
Speaker 1: against him. But I hope to be able to vote
Speaker 1: for a viable alternative. UM. I'd love to see majority
Speaker 1: Leader Josh Holly, majority Leader Tom Cotton. UM. You know,
Speaker 1: I do think we need new leadership. I don't think
Speaker 1: Miss McConnell's bad at everything. He's good at judges, he's
Speaker 1: good at blocking Democrats occasionally. UM, but that's not enough,
Speaker 1: you know. I when we inaugurated President Trump January, it's like, boom, okay,
Speaker 1: this guy was elected as a change agent. Now it's
Speaker 1: time to implement that awesome MAGA America First agenda. And
Speaker 1: we mostly couldn't do it right because you had Paul
Speaker 1: Ryan in the House, you had Mitch McConnell in the Senate,
Speaker 1: and they didn't want to implement that agenda. That's so
Speaker 1: what did we get? We got a tax cut. Now.
Speaker 1: I like the tax cut. I'm happy we got the
Speaker 1: tax cut. I like low taxes. But while we should
Speaker 1: be the party of low taxes, we can't just be
Speaker 1: the party of low taxes. You know. If that's all
Speaker 1: we have to offer, well, the progressive left is just
Speaker 1: gonna crush us and they're gonna take over and pretty soon,
Speaker 1: not only will we not have low taxes because they're
Speaker 1: gonna just raise the sky high. We're not even gonna
Speaker 1: have a country, and so we need new leadership. I
Speaker 1: only want to vote for a majority leader. This series
Speaker 1: about implementing in America first Agenda, and I don't mind
Speaker 1: saying that straight to Mitch McConnell. Well, it's ultra Maga. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw. There is a report
Speaker 1: in the Washington Post apparently reappropriating Maga to Ultra Maga
Speaker 1: was the result of a six month research effort by
Speaker 1: liberal groups. Uh, that's what they came up with after
Speaker 1: six months. Evidently they're just doing our favors, right, And
Speaker 1: Biden is calling President Trump the Great Maga King. They're
Speaker 1: coming up with some pretty good branding ideas. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: sounds like some sort of delicious beer or something very
Speaker 1: cool that you like, Ultra Maga. I mean I think
Speaker 1: there should be hats, and I mean it sounds like
Speaker 1: it's it's a you know, something interesting you want to
Speaker 1: be a part of. We'll take it. We'll take it.
Speaker 1: And Biden said, Biden said one correct thing recently, one
Speaker 1: correct thing only. He said, this is not your father's
Speaker 1: Republican Party anymore, and it's like, yeah, dude, it's not.
Speaker 1: You know, you can call us whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call us, ultra maga. Well, where it is a badge
Speaker 1: of pride, but we're serious about putting America first and
Speaker 1: where we acknowledge I think the progressive left drives the dysfunction.
Speaker 1: To be clear, I mostly blame them, but I'm also
Speaker 1: happy to blame establishment Republicans who have lost touch with
Speaker 1: the people who are no longer delivering for everyday Americans.
Speaker 1: And so if you want to call that ultra maga,
Speaker 1: if you want to call that populist, like, call it
Speaker 1: whatever you want. But we're serious and we are remaking
Speaker 1: the Republican Party and this more uh pro Trump, pro
Speaker 1: America first direction. Well, we also can't use old school
Speaker 1: tactics when we're dealing with the radical left that we're
Speaker 1: saying now that is perfectly willing to burn things to
Speaker 1: the ground like we're seeing them outside of Supreme Court
Speaker 1: Justices House. I mean, we're just dealing with a different
Speaker 1: it's a different fight, you know, so it has to change. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw MSNBC host Are Milburgh was talking
Speaker 1: about Elon Musk taking over Twitter, and he was talking
Speaker 1: about how Musk could secretly banned people are turned down
Speaker 1: the reach of a major's party or major major parties candidate,
Speaker 1: which is completely ironic because that's exactly what happened heading
Speaker 1: into and what they did to President Trump and Republicans.
Speaker 1: You know, I know, taking on big tech has been
Speaker 1: one of your signature issues beyond just what we saw
Speaker 1: with the Hunter Biden story. You know, talk about what
Speaker 1: big tech does to manipulate what we see and read,
Speaker 1: and you know what needs to be done well, the
Speaker 1: amount of control that these companies have, these huge uh
Speaker 1: and they're all left wing, networked monopolies. The amount of
Speaker 1: control that they have over the flow of information in
Speaker 1: our society is staggering, right. I think just with the
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop story alone, with that corporate censorship, that
Speaker 1: probably swung the election from President Trump to President Biden.
Speaker 1: That was just one of many ways I think in
Speaker 1: which we had an unfree and unfair election. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: but they banned President Trump, they banned Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor
Speaker 1: Green from Twitter, and of course she's in the House,
Speaker 1: so she's a public official, but she's always running for
Speaker 1: re election because the terms are just two years and
Speaker 1: so that's election interference. And how have we gotten to
Speaker 1: this point where we're gonna let a handful of left
Speaker 1: wing multinational corporations put their thumb on the scale and
Speaker 1: decide who are elected representatives are going to be. If
Speaker 1: you let that happen, you can fix every other problem
Speaker 1: we had. You could imagine securing the border and tightening
Speaker 1: up inflation, getting it back under control. You can fix everything.
Speaker 1: But if you don't have free and fair elections, if
Speaker 1: if Google is just going to choose who the next
Speaker 1: president is going to be, if you don't have a
Speaker 1: free country, and so I think we need to restrain
Speaker 1: these companies. You hear a lot about Section two thirty,
Speaker 1: you know, and people ask me, should we uh, should
Speaker 1: we radically reform it or or eliminate those protections? And
Speaker 1: the answers, yes, absolutely right. If you are putting your
Speaker 1: thumb on the scale and censoring conservatives, you're acting like
Speaker 1: a publisher. Congratulations, We're gonna treat you like a publisher.
Speaker 1: We're not going to give you platform immunity from lawsuits.
Speaker 1: The problem is, I don't think that goes nearly far enough.
Speaker 1: I think that solves like five percent of the problem.
Speaker 1: I think you've got to treat companies like Facebook and
Speaker 1: Twitter as common carriers. You know, Um, you basically just
Speaker 1: banned them from discriminating based on politics. I think we
Speaker 1: should treat them more like the phone company. That phone
Speaker 1: company would probably love to listen in to you and
Speaker 1: I having this conversation right now and say, oh, this
Speaker 1: is too conservative. Uh, we don't like it. Let's shut
Speaker 1: them down. They'd probably love to do that, but we
Speaker 1: don't allow them to do that. We ban that kind
Speaker 1: of political discrimination by law. And so why on earth
Speaker 1: would we not hold Facebook and Twitter to the same
Speaker 1: standard that we hold the phone company. Right, So that's
Speaker 1: what playing offense looks like. I also think we need
Speaker 1: to embed software engineers. Are Com needs to convene an
Speaker 1: investigative team and I can personally oversee it. And we
Speaker 1: need to embed software engineers in Google weeks before an
Speaker 1: election to make sure that the Google engineers aren't tweaking
Speaker 1: their search engine algorithms in ways that are going to
Speaker 1: bring the election for the for the Democrats. I think
Speaker 1: if you don't do this kind of stuff, um, you're
Speaker 1: just gonna let these left wing multinational big tech companies
Speaker 1: dominate everything and we know which way they swing. We
Speaker 1: won't have any free speech at all in this country
Speaker 1: if we don't get a handle on it now. Well,
Speaker 1: and the online censorship really started when President Trump won
Speaker 1: the election, because I can't remember the Facebook guy's name,
Speaker 1: but one of the exacts is basically attributing Trump's went
Speaker 1: to his use of Facebook and being able to use
Speaker 1: these tools effectively. And that was when the left got
Speaker 1: really interested in trying to shut those kinds of accounts
Speaker 1: down and shutting down that reach. That's right. I think
Speaker 1: they got caught. They got caught sleeping, you know. They
Speaker 1: they thought they were just so smug, and so many
Speaker 1: of those liberals were smugged, right, They thought Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: was gonna win. They made fun of Trump, they said
Speaker 1: Trump had no chance, and in boom he was. It
Speaker 1: wasn't Russia, it wasn't any of that bs. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they knew how to effectively use Facebook ads, and they
Speaker 1: got their message out and it was a better message,
Speaker 1: and and Trump won in and then you saw the
Speaker 1: whole machine, right, the mainstream media, big tech, um, they
Speaker 1: all just went into hyper hyper drives and and it
Speaker 1: was this crazy sort of information warfare for many years
Speaker 1: they were screaming about Russia, Russia, Russia, screaming about collusion.
Speaker 1: I think as late as Nancy Pelosi was saying that
Speaker 1: the election was rigged in favor of President Trump, I mean,
Speaker 1: completely delusional stuff. But I think that big tech didn't
Speaker 1: want to let that happen again. You know, the Google.
Speaker 1: I think they got caught asleep at the wheel in
Speaker 1: they didn't want it to happen again, in which is
Speaker 1: why I'm pretty sure they got involved with manipulating search results. Zuckerberg, right,
Speaker 1: he was very sensitive after the whole left was criticizing
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg for allowing Trump to run those Facebook ats. They
Speaker 1: blamed Zuckerberg for Trump's win, And so I think he
Speaker 1: massively overcorrected, probably in very illegal ways. Right. He spent
Speaker 1: four and twenty million dollars of personal cash on so
Speaker 1: called neutral election administration, Right, but he basically went into
Speaker 1: this giant left wing get out to vote ballot harvesting
Speaker 1: operation run through these you know, fake nonprofits that we
Speaker 1: need to investigate. And so they massively overcorrected. And I
Speaker 1: think that it was just kind of obvious what they
Speaker 1: did well. And you also saw how difficult it is
Speaker 1: when you look at some of these issues when he
Speaker 1: was asked point blank how he defines hate speech and
Speaker 1: when he was in front of Congress and he couldn't
Speaker 1: define it right. So it's like, how do you how
Speaker 1: do you try to you know, regulate or cracked on
Speaker 1: on something that you can't even define yourself. So you know,
Speaker 1: their on lies the problem, which is why we should
Speaker 1: just go towards free speech and you know, just allow
Speaker 1: people to say, you know, more things without retribution. You know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, so you and your wife
Speaker 1: homeschool your children. I think a lot of parents now,
Speaker 1: especially saying how the d o J is quite literally
Speaker 1: targeting parents who are standing up for their kids. We're
Speaker 1: seeing how schools are indoctrinating children. So I think a
Speaker 1: lot of parents agree with you know, you and your
Speaker 1: wife homeschooling children, sort of seeing how the public school
Speaker 1: systems work. You walk us through how you and your
Speaker 1: wife came to that decision and why you came to
Speaker 1: that decision. Well, we've always been super pro homeschooling. You know,
Speaker 1: I wrote my uh over the law school equivalent of
Speaker 1: a big thesis paper. I wrote that on homeschooling and
Speaker 1: why I thought homeschooling. It was a constitutional right protected
Speaker 1: by our constitution, or certainly ought to be. And you know,
Speaker 1: we when you have kids, you know, you start looking
Speaker 1: around at this, at the world, and and uh, man,
Speaker 1: what's the what's happening in the schools? And it just
Speaker 1: got so bad so fast that we felt like, hey,
Speaker 1: we have to try this. You know, we look, we're
Speaker 1: you equally blessed. Um. I've had a successful business career,
Speaker 1: so we could literally afford to homeschool the kids. My wife,
Speaker 1: you know, stays at home with the kids, and and
Speaker 1: we can afford to do that, which is something I'd wish.
Speaker 1: It's a choice that I wish for every single parent
Speaker 1: because we get to feel in charge right at. Homeschooling
Speaker 1: is not for everybody. Catherine was a preschool teacher before
Speaker 1: we had kids, so she feels well suited to it.
Speaker 1: But whether you homeschool or whether you just find the
Speaker 1: right you know, charter school or or or parochial school,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, we just want parents to feel in
Speaker 1: charge because it's so easy. Right now. You look at
Speaker 1: this curriculum, the toxic left wing curriculum that you see.
Speaker 1: It's not in every single school, but man, it's in
Speaker 1: so many of them, and the pattern is clear. This
Speaker 1: woke ideology has inspected so many k through twelve institutions,
Speaker 1: and it's metastasizing like cancer. You know, we don't we
Speaker 1: We found out that the public school near us doesn't
Speaker 1: even say the Pledge of Allegiance. And I just remember
Speaker 1: I went to public school until sixth grade, and man,
Speaker 1: we said the Pledge of allegiance every day, you know.
Speaker 1: And I remember it must have been in first or
Speaker 1: second grade. I was learning about MLK and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be about the content of your character, not the
Speaker 1: color of your skin. Right, Well, fast forward thirty years later.
Speaker 1: Apparently the left is teaching kids the opposite, right there,
Speaker 1: teaching uh, you know, various forms of critical race theory,
Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes they call it diversity, equity and inclusion,
Speaker 1: but whatever it is, they're teaching kids to identify with
Speaker 1: each other in racial terms. Right, you're a victim and
Speaker 1: and you're an oppressor based on the color of your skin.
Speaker 1: That's the opposite of what we should be teaching them, right,
Speaker 1: they're teaching them uh stak history, the sixteen nineteen history curriculum,
Speaker 1: which is trying to tell kids that this country is
Speaker 1: somehow ridingly evil or irridumably racist. Um and you can
Speaker 1: throw out the Declaration of Independence in the constitution, you know,
Speaker 1: because Thomas Jefferson own slaves or whatever. And if you
Speaker 1: teach a generation of young people to hate their country,
Speaker 1: like that's gonna take and it's gonna ruin that whole
Speaker 1: generation is going to ruin the country. And now I
Speaker 1: think the final stroppers many parents is this perverse gender
Speaker 1: or sexual ideology that so many of these so called
Speaker 1: educators are pushing on our kids. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: an overstatement to say in the progressive left wants to
Speaker 1: teach your five year old that he or she can
Speaker 1: choose their gender and that indeed maybe they should choose
Speaker 1: to become transgender. I mean, this is ludicrous. They're coming
Speaker 1: after our kids, and so yeah, we home school. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing to do, but it's just
Speaker 1: such a blessing to make sure that our boys actually
Speaker 1: get educated and not indoctrinated. Quit commercial break more with
Speaker 1: Blake Masters. When you look at the fact like we're
Speaker 1: one of seven countries that allows abortion on demand after
Speaker 1: twenty weeks, we look at what happened during children with
Speaker 1: forcing them to wear masks when adults are taking pictures
Speaker 1: of them without it, of punishing kids to not be
Speaker 1: able to go back to schools. Then you look at
Speaker 1: teachers teaching young children to hate themselves because of things
Speaker 1: that are outside of their control, like they you know,
Speaker 1: their their race or whatever, you know. And then and
Speaker 1: then you look at this where they're actively sort of
Speaker 1: grooming child. It's it's just sort of like, what does
Speaker 1: it say about a society that doesn't protect the most
Speaker 1: vulnerable and the most innocent? Exactly? It says it's the
Speaker 1: sixth society. I think this is modern liberalism, right. The
Speaker 1: whole project is to tou to liberate every individual. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we believe in individual rights. Okay, it's conservatives, um, but
Speaker 1: but we also believe in families. We also believe in
Speaker 1: the nuclear family, and and and and what a special
Speaker 1: human arrangement that was, right. I literally think that's that's
Speaker 1: the divine design. Okay, uh uh. You know, husband and
Speaker 1: wife get together and they make children, they have this stamily,
Speaker 1: and that's what a healthy society should support. But if
Speaker 1: you say that today and then the leftist comes after
Speaker 1: you because they want it's this divide and conquer strategy.
Speaker 1: I really believe the modern progressive left they want to
Speaker 1: upbend everything that we hold dear, starting with the nuclear family. Uh.
Speaker 1: That's why they make it hard to raise a family
Speaker 1: on one single income. It's it's why you know they
Speaker 1: criticize you if you have this normative ideal of the
Speaker 1: strong family. They want to pull every individual apart because
Speaker 1: individuals are easier to control. If you can weaken the family,
Speaker 1: you can really make a population do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the left plan. We have to
Speaker 1: resist it. I totally agree. You know, I've really enjoyed
Speaker 1: this conversation. I appreciate. I think what you're doing is
Speaker 1: really important. You know, before we leave, and I've worked
Speaker 1: on campaign, so I know how busy are before before
Speaker 1: we go. Is there anything you want to leave the
Speaker 1: audience with. Yeah, maybe just a note of optimism. I
Speaker 1: think so much optimistic language from politicians usually rings hollow.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got competitors that do the TV ads
Speaker 1: that have the electric guitars blaring, and they're like America's
Speaker 1: days You're you know, America's best days are right around
Speaker 1: the quarter, And I think that stuff fault hollow. I think, um,
Speaker 1: I think we have to acknowledge that we're in a
Speaker 1: tough spot right now. Like truly, I think that we're
Speaker 1: living in a period of American decline. It's uncomfortable to admit.
Speaker 1: I think it's uncomfortable to admit how close we are
Speaker 1: to really losing this country. I think after decades of
Speaker 1: playing defense Republicans, you know, we've unfortunately kind of let
Speaker 1: the left take over and they they own almost every
Speaker 1: single institution in this country. But my optimistic note is
Speaker 1: now it's just clear what we have to do. Right
Speaker 1: Our backs are against the wall. There's no more room
Speaker 1: to play defense. Yeah, that's terrifying, but you know that
Speaker 1: the stakes are high, and this is the best country
Speaker 1: that's ever existed in the history of the world. We
Speaker 1: have to fight for it. And and because we can't
Speaker 1: play defense anymore, there's only one option, and that's to
Speaker 1: put a smile on your face, be a happy worder
Speaker 1: and play offense. Let's just be bold. Let's play offense.
Speaker 1: Let's fight like. Hell, let's fight like the future of
Speaker 1: this country depends on it. And uh, it does. And
Speaker 1: so that's what I'm doing in Arizona. That's why I
Speaker 1: know I'm on track to win this primary and to
Speaker 1: beat Mark Kelly in November. And I think if we
Speaker 1: all get together and and use our talents and just
Speaker 1: work really hard, and we can take back this country.
Speaker 1: I know we can. It's almost too late, but it's
Speaker 1: not too late, and I think that's the sweet spot.
Speaker 1: So let me leave you with that note. And uh,
Speaker 1: it's been a real pleasure chatting with you, Lisa. Blake
Speaker 1: Masters running for Senate in Arizona. Go check them out, Blake,
Speaker 1: it's been an honor. I really appreciate your time, and
Speaker 1: keep up the good work. Good luck. Thank you, we'll
Speaker 1: do so. I found that interview fascinating. I hope you
Speaker 1: did as well. We need more Blake Masters out there.
Speaker 1: In my own personal opinion, I really enjoyed hearing his
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